Who can Draft a lineup with the most STOLEN BASES? (All Time Edition)
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025
- Three baseball minds compete against each other to draft a lineup of players and a team they played on to try to total the most stolen bases by the end of the draft.
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Featuring: Jolly Olive, Talkin' Jake, Shelfy
Hosted by: Lucas D'Aversa
Edited by: Jack Sorensen
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The way I was yelling ty Cobb and he takes Prince fielder 😭
the first answer in my head... i am 4 minutes into the video and shocked by some of these answers haha
I thought for a second they were only allowed to pick guys during the expansion era.
But yeah, they just didnt think of deadball era guys.
To think if he picked Ty Cobb he could have been 1,440 stolen bases ahead of Jolly!
I can’t believe Jake and jolly let Lou Brock fall back to Shelfy
well i mean its a stolen base draft, you gotta go Griffey #2!
I feel like Jake misheard what the category was and didn't want to admit it lol
In fairness I thought of Vince Coleman with the Cardinals before Lou Brock
Coleman would have been much better, 400+ more SB than Griffey and takes Brock off the board for others
@@floydfanTN nope brock all the way
Not going ichiro on the mariners is crazy
I was just going to say that
@@rockysolmon1 same
Just a massive number of horrendous picks in this draft (and not Prince Fielder funny horrendous, simply "you were actually trying and failed miserably" horrendous).
A@@nossonkamins7708
I can’t believe they didn’t pick [best pick] on [franchise]! Bums!!
Shelfy using his "MLB the Show" knowledge...
😈😈😈
I'd be curious to see the retention stats on this video to see how many people just shut it off after Shelfy got Lou Brock.
I think we all shared in Lucas’ frustrations this video lol
ngl it was real tough to keep watching after that Griffey pick
Jolly picking fucking Billy Hamilton for the Reds and not Joe Morgan or Barry Larkin was incredibly painful. You can't steal bases if you never make it to first!
I stole ONE base playing youth baseball. It's a commendation that I'm almost good enough for Shelfy to take me in an all-time draft.
No Tim Raines from the Expos??? Arrrrggggh!!!! I guess no one wanted 635 stolen bases.
No they wanted 2 SB prince fielder
i was screaming tim raines at my phone the whole video!
One "funny" choice that actually would have beaten a lot of your outfield picks, is Tony Gwynn. 319 SB, 1st all-time for the Padres.
In fact, from 1993-1997, after his young speedster days were over, and he looked like we all remember him, he stole 59 bases at an 80% success rate! In that 5 year span, he stole more bases than 7 of your picks this draft.
At least Honus Wagner played after 1898. Before then, you could get a stolen base if you went from first to third or second to home on a single, or two for going from first to home on a double. That’s why a lot of older teams have a bunch of pre-1898 players at or near the top of their all-time stolen bases list.
Didn’t even know that
This draft was absolute pain if you care at all about SB's.
They shoulda gotten Foolish and hell maybe even Lucas to play.
The recency bias of not knowing that Lou Brock is 2nd all-time in steals, and that the vast majority of his career was with a single team, is insane. "Yeah, uuuuuuuh, lemme take Billy Hamilton." Christ.
For some reason I feel like these guys don't know Cardinals that much. It's sad
Didn't even pick the the right billy hamilton
I was a little surprised at the recency bias. Somebody hasn't been pouring over their grandfather's Baseball Almanacs.
I can understand the recency bias if you legit can't think of any as time goes on, but the 2nd pick? Like come on man, know some little history here and there 😂
Vince Coleman would've been better than Hamilton.
Lou brock not being the 2nd pick minimum is insane
not even a host mention of Maury Wills is slanderous
490 for the dodgers
Since Jake had to ask if Roy was a Dodger, can we really expect them to know Wills? Sad
This was a crazy one for sure, it's incredible that in a stolen base draft, Ty Cobb, Tim Raines and Willie Wilson didn't get picked.
I was screaming JASON KENDALL for catchers when he was on the pirates lol
Y’all make me feel better about myself and my ball knowledge thank you
I'm so sad no one picked Jeff Bagwell and his 202 stolen bases as a first baseman.
Or Jason Kendall catcher for the pirates, 140.
@@bgdg323honus wagner was taken off the board pretty quickly for the pirates unfortunately
Biggio was gone pretty quickly
@@kevinhinkle7632 Funnily enough, they allowed Ripken at third, he should have asked to have Biggio as a catcher. That was his first position in the bigs, and his speed was why he got moved to 2nd base.
Yeah he could steal a bag well. 😬
If no one picks Lou Brock for the Cardinals I’m going to lose my mind
No one takin Tim Raines with the Expos is just sad
I was screaming his name at my tv.
Raines and Vince Coleman… been screaming those names
@canihaveonemore11 Coleman's damage was mostly with the Cards, so Brock was a better choice than him.
Yeah, missing out on the Rock was wild.
They missed a lot...Willie Wilson.....Ty Cobb....Ichiro
You guys dropped the ball in the first round. Geez! Brutal!
Would have gone Jason Kendall with Pittsburgh to get the huge catcher advantage
I was so mad about that. He was such an obvious choice.
Kendall was the first name i thought of. But Shelfy took Wagner early and that took the Pirates off the board...
At least Wagner's the #2 Pirate of all time for SBs and the all-time Stolen-Base leader at short-stop. Jason Kendall only stole 140 bags as a Pirate, which is the most of a catcher in the live ball era but isn't actually much of an advantage.
I would have started a big argument about whether Craig Biggio could count as the Catcher.
Yadier Molina had more stolen bases than Cal Ripken Jr. Would make a hell of a trivia question.
Yeah we been asking because all these videos are fun no matter what. OBP% draft, walks draft, rbi draft etc….
Not gonna lie.. the All-time drafts you do, might be the best content (it’s up there) keep doing them
Willie Wilson for the Royals
This was the best of these videos. The chaos is always welcome.
This was such a dumb idea and I'm here for it
Shiiiiiiiiiiit, last one for a bit eh? Dang.
I’m sure whatever content they decide to make in the meantime will still be good
@@austinfrandsen6537 True but I also love this series haha
i love the series, theres just not a whole lotta subjects left. But I think they should do the same topics, but cant use anyone already picked before
@@Bobman32x That would be interesting
Last all time. May be going divisional and thus per year.
That moment where Shelfy forgets what a DH is. What an NL guy.
This is exactly why I was clamoring for the SB draft this whole time, I thought it would be a riot...wasn't disappointed.
Perfect cast for a video right here. This crew is legit
Said ty cobb off the rip
Cobb, Brock, Wills...
Tim Raines... that one bugged me
5 min in and its over!! HAHA baseball before 1990 didn't exist for Jolly 😂
Fun fact. Vince Coleman was the last person to steal 100 bags in a season in 1987 with 109 swipes. But he stole 107 and 110 in the two season before that. 100 stolen bases in a season has only happen 8 times since integration.
Shelfy banking on Jake and Jolly not taking Brock was a tidy piece of work.
Holds draft when?
Maybe we could get a coaches/managers draft going. Loving the videos fellas!
lineup with the LEAST amount of stolen bases would also be a banger i feel like
Woah, Jake saying Joey Gathright, that is a throwback!
You can hear the pain in Lucas’s voice
What about doing a Gold Glove draft? Or a walks draft? Those might be fun for hilarity purposes. Or a doubles draft.
Tim Raines over here sitting in his Expos jersey wondering when he's getting picked...
should do a "lowest ERA" draft. Would just need to have a cutoff for games or seasons played to qualify
If and when you do come back for more compiler team drafts, I think having a 5 starter, 2 reliever rotation with single season wins + saves would be fun. I also think Runs scored and RBI could be fun. Could also try drafting 'bad' teams. All Star pitchers with the most losses, All Star batters with the most strikeouts, etc.
Junior, #2? How is Lou Brock not #1? Or 2 at worst? He made it back to Shelfie? Bro...
Shelfy has definitely seen a career stolen base list with "Billy Hamilton" near the top, not knowing its a completely different guy
Should of ended the video after shelfy got lou brock w the 6 pick 😂
This is a tough draft that’s for sure Shelfy killed it
shelfy went bananas my lord
I was waiting patiently for Tim Raines on the Expos to be mentioned... then the wild picks started and I knew it wasn't happening
I was TWEAKING at none of them choosing Pudge at catcher
Let’s see a worst fielders draft. Most errors
Strikeout draft for batters will go crazy, holds would be some good name pulls too
Catcher is so tough.
Yadi. 19 seasons one team. 71 bags haha.
cant postpone this series on a sour note. need a good draft fast
Shelfy's top three plus Plouffe ties Jake's entire lineup.
Crazy that Henderson is almost the career stolen base leader for two different teams. Jeter ended up on top for the Yankees, besting Rickey's five-year total by a few dozen. Just shows what happens when a generational athlete meets a freakish period for a stat.
Shelfy taking Fielder over Granderson or Cobb is insane lol
The whole video in my head I kept saying Maury Wills
Crazy how Willie mays went so late
And Jake is even reluctant to pick him.
I've got an idea for another one of these episodes, but with a twist;
Who can select the WORST starting lineup? Basically, choose whatever stat to focus on (home runs, steals, ERA, etc.), but only players with "X" amount of starts or AB's in the chosen season.
I feel like it would make for a great series of episodes!
Lou Brock going in the 3rd round is wild
Thinking Billy Hamilton had 400 more stolen bases after leaving the reds is hilarious
You guys spoiling Ty Cobb AND Tim The Rock Raines makes me win that game alone in my office.
I don't know how the rules works, but it seems drafting Biggio as a catcher would give you a huge edge over taking him as a second baseman. Plus, it opens the door to take people like Eddie Collins or Joe Morgan at 2B.
You can only slot in a player at a position if they played enough games there. IIRC, the threshold they usually go with is 25%.
I was thinking this but in games where Biggio played a defensive position only 15.5% were as catcher.
honestly was shocked nobody took 42 on the dodgers
Jolly! You took the wrong Billy Hamilton.
dyson was a blast on the recent KC cycle, but Willie Wilson was da man for YEARS!
Joe Morgan with the Reds would have been a spectacular pull.
Billy Hamilton over Joe Morgan with the Reds. Crazy!!!!!! Also Lou Brock not going one or two is crazy!!!
Fun way Shelfy could've stunted is spending his DH on Max Scherzer with the Nats (3 stolen bases, one more than Prince)
I think an average (or obp) and an era (or fip) draft could work really well, just set an inning/game minimum (100 games for batters, 100 innings for pitchers) and whoever has the highest average or lowest era wins.
Yall should do innings pitched! Chad Innings Eater competition
The Prince Fielder answer was amazing
Love that my first thought ended up being #1 overall. I'm old.
Since Shelfy was picking guys who didn’t steal anyway at the end. Would have been funny if he picked Grienke as his DH for the Dodgers since they were still available.
The lack of knowledge of pre- 1966 players has been evident in every all-timer draft.
Y’all need to do an innings draft for pitchers
Bo Jackson would've been my Royals pick. Trout with the Angels? I don't know if he was a runner, though. Ohtani, perhaps?
A good draft would be "Most home runs in their home stadium". Any era, all time. Can we make that happen?
This was a super painful episode. Entertaining. But very painful.
What about Willie Wilson for Royals? He had a bunch in the early 1980s.
Do the most balks draft next.
Can you pick Bob Davidson?
How do you let Shelfy get Rickey AND Lou Brock? I'm at the Chone Figgins pick, and this draft is already over. But I gotta stick around for the kooky answers.
Last one for a bit? Time to go all the way back to the beginning and rewatch..
no vince coleman or tim rock raines is criminal.
Lou Brock is a better Cardinals option and once he is picked, Coleman isn't available. But yeah, no one picking Tim Raines is nuts.
@@SwAeromotion i mean, no one was catching shelfy this video, you could take coleman and he still would have won.
Fun fact, Vince Coleman was a kicker in college (FAMU) and once kicked a game-winning FG against Miami (FL).
Aw last one for a while is sad. When they come back show us all time managerial wins!
This video is a riot
Using Griffey Jr. as your first choice
😬😬( grimacing smiley )
Not one scream at my phone but there were 2 that drives nuts.
1. Griffey picked in the first round
2. Jason Kendall at catcher
I was surprised no one mentioned Vince Coleman
For those curious, here is the best possible lineup I found since 1898 (player must have played 25% of games at the position with the team in question to qualify):
C: CWS Ray Schalk (177)
1B: CHC Frank Chance (402)
2B: LAD Davey Lopes (418)
SS: PIT Honus Wagner (639)
3B: MIL Paul Molitor (412)
OF: STL Lou Brock (888)
OF: DET Ty Cobb (869)
OF: OAK Rickey Henderson (867)
DH: MON (WSN) Tim Raines (635)
Total: 5,307 stolen bases
Best not to make the cut:
PIT OF Max Carey (688)
KCR OF Willie Wilson (612)
KCA/OAK SS Bert Campaneris (566)
STL OF Vince Coleman (549)
WAS (MIN) OF Clyde Milan (495)
I liked Lucas's idea of only doing names from the expansion era, once you allow the old guys there's not a whole lot of reason to pick players from recent history.
good thing for them is that they cant even think of the old guys pre expansion. I mean Prince Fielder for the Tigers is just wow.
Well, a lot of times these guys have a very recency bias brain. Don't think it might matter that much 😂
Hank Aaron is routingly forgotten so not an issue. They pretty much always lean more recent.
Leaving Daniel Vogelbach on the board is crazy
Jason Kendall would've been a sneaky good catcher pick I would think. That was where my mind went.
Bro. How did no one pick Tim Raines for the Expos/Nats? A big old 650 right there for the taking
Com'on guys do the On-base Percentage all-time draft