So they just don’t notice that Seasmoke is gone when they go back to Driftmark? Or that Vermithor and Silverwing were taken from Dragonstone?? Dragons are awfully big to not notice their absence, especially when they’re your greatest advantage. Apparently there are dragon keepers at the Dragonmont. Surely Rhaenyra would have been informed right away.
I love this channel and the what ifs but this one has so many holes in it that I couldn’t really enjoy it and this was the point they lost me. How in the hell are those guys even gonna get into dragon stone and take a dragon let alone bond with it. Plus wouldn’t Rhaeneyra have made her heir the ruler if dragon stone?
Yeah I caught that too. At this I would imagine anyone who's not member in royal family direct in line would be banned from setting foot on Dragonstone and potentially claiming Dragon's. Jaehaerys I basically had this policy and only reason the Dance happened was because everybody was his direct descendants was allowed to claim Dragons. He almost started a war with Braavos over them potentially having Dragon Eggs.
@@brittanyrae5771 my friend their are many people in Dragonstone who hates rhaneyra like Alfred brune and the Dragonstone garrison they are the once who handed rhaneyra to king aegon
Considering we're talking about Daemon, I just know he will attack Daeron. He knows he can't run away from 3 dragons, but ending Daeron is what matters the most, even if it means getting killed by Vermithor and Silverwing. God's eye 2.0, Daeron will be meeting his family again soon.
@@KaiHung-wv3ul I think Caraxes can dodge Vermithor and Silverwing for they are much older dragons, they're bigger but slower. That will give Daemon enough time to go for Daeron, but I don't see him alive after this one either. This battle would be more like a daugther of Rook's Rest and God's Eye, Caraxes goes for Tesarion like he did to Vhagar, while Daemon jumps to Daeron instead of Aemond, just for Vermithor or Silverwing throw themselves in and end Caraxes. I see Tesarion either getting a Sunfyre like fate, living to be clamed by another or just getting her canon destiny under command of the remaining Silent Five.
@matheusdemmello2323 I've always felt that, if Rhaenyra had married Gwayne, it would've had a strategic importance, as well as an emotional one. The strategy part would've meant the tying of Otto's hands. If Alicent still married the king, it wouldn't matter if she birthed princes or not. He'd still be getting Hightower blood onto the Iron Throne. This might pacify him and the Green faction's allies for a little while, but Rhaenyra wouldn't be lulled into a false sense of security. She'd know that there'd be nothing to prevent an "accident" from happening to her, once their first child started eating solid food. As in so many other cases, marriage pacts would be used to further cement power for some, and keep everything calm and tidy in Viserys's mind. Their first son would likely be betrothed to Helaena, while their first daughter would be betrothed to Aegon. As for the emotional side of things I mentioned at the beginning, the initial arranging of Rhaenyra and Gwayne's marriage would probably happen, while she and Alicent were on good terms. The girls would be happy to be making sisters of each other, until Viserys made his big announcement. Rhaenyra would consider asking for the engagement to be dissolved, but other friends would advise her to focus harder on the strategy side, use it to keep her going in the more difficult moments, and tweak it to her advantage as much as she possibly could. (4/9/2024)
Still a Hightower vs Velaryon based civil war, but with the Hightowers backing Rhaenyra and the Velaryons backing a son of Viserys and Laena(whoever they might be), probably with the support of Daemon as well.
These are really good. Have you ever considered doing what if scenarios for Game of Thrones? Like What if Daenerys never hatched dragons or What if Ned never became Hand of the King?
Good to note that Daemon knows a fair amount about the secret passages within the Red Keep, so he may have been able to locate one or more of the "fireflies" for interrogation.
Okay let me not lie this is great! but I do see a HUGE issue with the dragons being claimed by any of the five velaryon cousins. Firstly how would they just simply claim them as seen in the show when daemon collected some of syrax's eggs he had to treck through some very trecherous terrain and caves,also would'nt the dragon keepers on dragonstone not not 2 out of the 3 or 4 dragons on dragonstone which I am very sure they see very frequently and who are very recognisable due to their size namely Vermithor, but lets just say there is some man made passage to to where the dragons are would it not be guarded? Seasmoke is the only one that I can say can be claimed without a hatsle. Also during the dance when rhaenyra calls the dragon seeds to be claim the dragons, many died trying to so what are the chances a large majority of 3/5 claim the dragons. But lets say the do manage to claim them, where would they be kept most likely on driftmark but as the new lord and lady would lucerys and Rhaena not be informed after a while, when rhaenyra arives on dragonstone would she mot be informed the second largest dragon is missing!
seeing how the dragons reacted to a whole group of targ bastards who had more targ blood then some distant cousins this video falls apart. we saw the test ride aemond had to go through with vhagar so assuming that these velaryons could easily tame these dragons is silly. especially knowing that there are dragon keepers on the dragonmount and dragon pit. sooner than later word would get back to rhaenrya.
Given that there are TWO pregnancies, I can see a marriage made between these future children, a strategy which Rhaenyra could take even further. If she and Daemon somehow figure out a way to kidnap Aegon's daughter, and they manage to keep her for a long enough period of time, once she came of age, Jaehaera could be married off to either of her aunt's youngest sons. Going for the girl, instead of the boy or taking both, would play into how Rhaenyra wanted to make a new order, how she wants girls of all social ranks to feel just as important as boys. It's something she would keep reiterating to her niece in different ways over time. This aspect of the bigger strategy would help the little princess to fall in line with the Blacks' side of the conflict, even embracing it whole-heartedly. Then, if/when Daeron manages to get her back, she'd be able to fill him in on the other side of the woman he barely knows. It would put at least a moderate amount of conflict in his head, making him doubt the picture Larys has painted for him. And speaking of conflict, what she learned on Dragonstone would definitely put her at-odds with her twin brother, and a new thread in the dance would begin to weave itself. (4/9/2024)
That was so goood I love ❤️ your videos and I have a question for you How do you think winterfell is going to look like in season two and how do you think northern soldiers are going to look like And. What’s your favorite house and kingdom?
In all honesty I don’t really have many thoughts on the north at the moment. I mean I am really excited to go back to Winterfell but I don’t expect the layout to change much, especially since king’s landing seems pretty much the same as in GOT even though this is hundreds of years before. Same goes for the northern soldiers. As for my favorite house, possibly House Blackfyre. Simply because the banner is cool and the idea of cadet branches, especially Targaryen ones seem very interesting to me. Especially since House Blackfyre had a very big effect on Westeros.
@@TheEmpyreanSpeaks I love your videos, but I would really love a video where you discuss each kingdom, strengths and weaknesses and there soldier quality
I’ve been watching a lot of your videos and normally love them, but this one is pretty underwhelming, the whole thing has been the greens making every right move possibly and constantly winning while the blacks seem to make no moves and lose their great advantage while doing virtually nothing positive. Like why hasn’t Rhaenys done anything, she’s on driftmark, she would’ve noticed the silent fives disappearance or them trying to claim seasmoke, I also think she would’ve been called back by now since the greens have been doing so much, Rhaenyra would forgive her for now at least
@@Boxy005 he sends his dragon and jumped from it wanting to slay the enemy before going down and he falls to his death when tessarion shake but he has killed Daeron His body was taken by the City watch and hidden as they are loyal to him and was Smuggled to Dragonstone
Even if Daeron wins, who will be crowned? Will he serve as regent until little Jaehaerys comes of age? Will he usurp the crown from his nephew? Find out next time on DragonBall Z: Abridg-wait, what? Oh, wrong fandom. Find out next time on House of the Dragon.
What if B&C went to kill one of Alicents sons instead of Jaehaerys and Maelor. In this scenario I see them asking her to choose between Aemond and Daeron or Aegon and Aemond
Aegon and aemond were fighters they can fight about B&C one of them is just a guard and the other one is a rat catcher aegon and aemond were trained warriors they could have killed B&C without any problem
Heads. Spikes. Walls. If Viserys was a good king he'd have dealt with Alicent, Aemond, and Otto as it was plain for years they were traitors in waiting. He condemned the realm to the Dance by allowing them to live.
This story is so good. Im on the hype train for Daeron I hope he wins cause honestly hes the most tragic character in this. His entire family is just killed off he has no choice but to fight or die
plotholes plotholes how would they get dragons off dragon stone without alerting the dragon keepers ???? and even if they get them why would Rey go to dragon stone leaving the red keep knowing this, even if she would know the minute she landed
Actually I thought you would make Daeron retreat to Essos and from there plan revenge against the blacks. that in practice it is a viable option and it is possible that it will succeed.
It would've prevented the deaths of thousands in war? But I find it funny how everyone considers this an empowering girlboss moment as if she didnt stomp dozens of innocent smallfolk to death. It made little narrative sense, and the writers mostly put it in there to look cool.
This is just the Dance of Dragons in yet another itteration. I was hoping for something more like the Blackyre Rebellion but with Dragons. I was thinking that Tyland Lannister would have built a private keep or given him one in the Westerlands along with building a Dragonpit not for Tessarion. Then years later after Daeron and Tessarion have many children their decendants have all become Dragonriders they take up arms against Jahaerys II and his children with some of the same plot points as your Dance of Dragons 2.0.
even if daeron tried to take the throne from rhaenyra because he believes that his right birth because he male and raised in old town with his family of his mother yeah he will try to do this but unfortunately before he even gets his hands on throne he will die daemon will not let this happen young boy trying to be smart to take the throne of his wife daemon will never let this happen he will kill the support's of daeron and then daeron himself will kill him even if this takes his life at least his family is fine 😔 man i wish daeron just accepted rhaenyra as his queen and knew the truth that aegon never met to be king or good king and his other brother aemond who opposed with something happen in past so yeah he will said man my siblings was shit thanks to god they die ( not haleana of course) just imagine he see or heard what his mother did to his siblings 😅 he thanked rhaenys for this dacreys
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So they just don’t notice that Seasmoke is gone when they go back to Driftmark? Or that Vermithor and Silverwing were taken from Dragonstone?? Dragons are awfully big to not notice their absence, especially when they’re your greatest advantage. Apparently there are dragon keepers at the Dragonmont. Surely Rhaenyra would have been informed right away.
I love this channel and the what ifs but this one has so many holes in it that I couldn’t really enjoy it and this was the point they lost me. How in the hell are those guys even gonna get into dragon stone and take a dragon let alone bond with it. Plus wouldn’t Rhaeneyra have made her heir the ruler if dragon stone?
@@CharlieWilson2345 yeah, it’s on par with “Dany forgot about the Iron Fleet” for me.
@@brittanyrae5771 how dare you remind me of that 😂😂😂
Yeah I caught that too. At this I would imagine anyone who's not member in royal family direct in line would be banned from setting foot on Dragonstone and potentially claiming Dragon's. Jaehaerys I basically had this policy and only reason the Dance happened was because everybody was his direct descendants was allowed to claim Dragons. He almost started a war with Braavos over them potentially having Dragon Eggs.
@@brittanyrae5771 my friend their are many people in Dragonstone who hates rhaneyra like Alfred brune and the Dragonstone garrison they are the once who handed rhaneyra to king aegon
Part 3 better be in the works because GIRRRRRRRL the tea is hot and I'm DEFINITELY sipping!
What if Daemon inherited the iron throne after Viserys?
🔥 & 🩸
Considering we're talking about Daemon, I just know he will attack Daeron. He knows he can't run away from 3 dragons, but ending Daeron is what matters the most, even if it means getting killed by Vermithor and Silverwing. God's eye 2.0, Daeron will be meeting his family again soon.
Idk, I think Daeron will just throw his other riders at Daemon before he could do anything.
@@KaiHung-wv3ul I think Caraxes can dodge Vermithor and Silverwing for they are much older dragons, they're bigger but slower. That will give Daemon enough time to go for Daeron, but I don't see him alive after this one either. This battle would be more like a daugther of Rook's Rest and God's Eye, Caraxes goes for Tesarion like he did to Vhagar, while Daemon jumps to Daeron instead of Aemond, just for Vermithor or Silverwing throw themselves in and end Caraxes. I see Tesarion either getting a Sunfyre like fate, living to be clamed by another or just getting her canon destiny under command of the remaining Silent Five.
Please dont make us wait another 5 months for part 3
Give me until 3024. Then we’ll talk.
@@TheEmpyreanSpeaks stop playing 😂
@@TheEmpyreanSpeaks no please I literally just binged the 2 parts give us part 3😢
@@TheEmpyreanSpeaks when is part 3 comming? Its been almost 3 months now
@@TheEmpyreanSpeaks You'll still be done before GRRM finishes Winds of Winter.
What if Rhaenyra had had Daemon’s bastards instead of Harwin’s?
What if Rhaenyra Targaryen married Gwayne Hightower and King Viserys married Laena Velaryon?
I wanna know what would have happened if Laena lived.
@@cjordn
That was literally three days ago.
@matheusdemmello2323 I've always felt that, if Rhaenyra had married Gwayne, it would've had a strategic importance, as well as an emotional one. The strategy part would've meant the tying of Otto's hands. If Alicent still married the king, it wouldn't matter if she birthed princes or not. He'd still be getting Hightower blood onto the Iron Throne. This might pacify him and the Green faction's allies for a little while, but Rhaenyra wouldn't be lulled into a false sense of security. She'd know that there'd be nothing to prevent an "accident" from happening to her, once their first child started eating solid food. As in so many other cases, marriage pacts would be used to further cement power for some, and keep everything calm and tidy in Viserys's mind. Their first son would likely be betrothed to Helaena, while their first daughter would be betrothed to Aegon. As for the emotional side of things I mentioned at the beginning, the initial arranging of Rhaenyra and Gwayne's marriage would probably happen, while she and Alicent were on good terms. The girls would be happy to be making sisters of each other, until Viserys made his big announcement. Rhaenyra would consider asking for the engagement to be dissolved, but other friends would advise her to focus harder on the strategy side, use it to keep her going in the more difficult moments, and tweak it to her advantage as much as she possibly could. (4/9/2024)
Still a Hightower vs Velaryon based civil war, but with the Hightowers backing Rhaenyra and the Velaryons backing a son of Viserys and Laena(whoever they might be), probably with the support of Daemon as well.
Make part 3 please
Nah this video is fire ngl I WANT MORE👹👹👹
So The Dance of the Dragons is still gonna happen anyway but with different players on the board
These are really good. Have you ever considered doing what if scenarios for Game of Thrones? Like What if Daenerys never hatched dragons or What if Ned never became Hand of the King?
Yes, actually. I’ll be getting to some game of thrones what if’s at some point.
I Need part 3 brother! Excellent work
Where is part 3
Daeron, jaehaerys and jaehaera will become dany and viserys if their family is killed in cold blood.
Daemon and rhaenyra will send assassins after them since they are major threat with dragons.
I’VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE
What if Visserys was married to Rhaenys?
Good to note that Daemon knows a fair amount about the secret passages within the Red Keep, so he may have been able to locate one or more of the "fireflies" for interrogation.
Make part 3 please 🥺🖤
This is cool as hell :D But now we need more!
What if Aemond let Aegon leave in episode 9?
Larys was standing there on the stage too so he’s also dead
Okay let me not lie this is great! but I do see a HUGE issue with the dragons being claimed by any of the five velaryon cousins. Firstly how would they just simply claim them as seen in the show when daemon collected some of syrax's eggs he had to treck through some very trecherous terrain and caves,also would'nt the dragon keepers on dragonstone not not 2 out of the 3 or 4 dragons on dragonstone which I am very sure they see very frequently and who are very recognisable due to their size namely Vermithor, but lets just say there is some man made passage to to where the dragons are would it not be guarded? Seasmoke is the only one that I can say can be claimed without a hatsle. Also during the dance when rhaenyra calls the dragon seeds to be claim the dragons, many died trying to so what are the chances a large majority of 3/5 claim the dragons. But lets say the do manage to claim them, where would they be kept most likely on driftmark but as the new lord and lady would lucerys and Rhaena not be informed after a while, when rhaenyra arives on dragonstone would she mot be informed the second largest dragon is missing!
seeing how the dragons reacted to a whole group of targ bastards who had more targ blood then some distant cousins this video falls apart. we saw the test ride aemond had to go through with vhagar so assuming that these velaryons could easily tame these dragons is silly. especially knowing that there are dragon keepers on the dragonmount and dragon pit. sooner than later word would get back to rhaenrya.
Given that there are TWO pregnancies, I can see a marriage made between these future children, a strategy which Rhaenyra could take even further. If she and Daemon somehow figure out a way to kidnap Aegon's daughter, and they manage to keep her for a long enough period of time, once she came of age, Jaehaera could be married off to either of her aunt's youngest sons. Going for the girl, instead of the boy or taking both, would play into how Rhaenyra wanted to make a new order, how she wants girls of all social ranks to feel just as important as boys. It's something she would keep reiterating to her niece in different ways over time. This aspect of the bigger strategy would help the little princess to fall in line with the Blacks' side of the conflict, even embracing it whole-heartedly. Then, if/when Daeron manages to get her back, she'd be able to fill him in on the other side of the woman he barely knows. It would put at least a moderate amount of conflict in his head, making him doubt the picture Larys has painted for him. And speaking of conflict, what she learned on Dragonstone would definitely put her at-odds with her twin brother, and a new thread in the dance would begin to weave itself. (4/9/2024)
Bro is clearly pro green
No he's just telling a different story for fun, can tell how many team blacks are butthurt over it
He’s telling a story and in part one said part one of Daeron surrender or dying is far more likely
This is just for fun
Part 3
That was so goood I love ❤️ your videos and I have a question for you
How do you think winterfell is going to look like in season two and how do you think northern soldiers are going to look like
And. What’s your favorite house and kingdom?
In all honesty I don’t really have many thoughts on the north at the moment. I mean I am really excited to go back to Winterfell but I don’t expect the layout to change much, especially since king’s landing seems pretty much the same as in GOT even though this is hundreds of years before. Same goes for the northern soldiers. As for my favorite house, possibly House Blackfyre. Simply because the banner is cool and the idea of cadet branches, especially Targaryen ones seem very interesting to me. Especially since House Blackfyre had a very big effect on Westeros.
@@TheEmpyreanSpeaks I love your videos, but I would really love a video where you discuss each kingdom, strengths and weaknesses and there soldier quality
I’ve been watching a lot of your videos and normally love them, but this one is pretty underwhelming, the whole thing has been the greens making every right move possibly and constantly winning while the blacks seem to make no moves and lose their great advantage while doing virtually nothing positive. Like why hasn’t Rhaenys done anything, she’s on driftmark, she would’ve noticed the silent fives disappearance or them trying to claim seasmoke, I also think she would’ve been called back by now since the greens have been doing so much, Rhaenyra would forgive her for now at least
7:20 daeron the young dragon lol
make part 3 PLEASE
Daemon fee seconds later: jumps from his dragon to kill daeron so that even in his death he has done something
Misses as he's too far away and plummets to his death
@@Boxy005 he sends his dragon and jumped from it wanting to slay the enemy before going down and he falls to his death when tessarion shake but he has killed Daeron His body was taken by the City watch and hidden as they are loyal to him and was Smuggled to Dragonstone
@@bunsoakonganak2ndchannel is that in part 3 or just team black fan fiction atm?
@@Boxy005 fiction I am also planning to make a green on also
@@Boxy005 either way all dragon will die
Even if Daeron wins, who will be crowned?
Will he serve as regent until little Jaehaerys comes of age?
Will he usurp the crown from his nephew?
Find out next time on DragonBall Z: Abridg-wait, what? Oh, wrong fandom. Find out next time on House of the Dragon.
You've live too long uncle damn cold😈🐲🗿
What if B&C went to kill one of Alicents sons instead of Jaehaerys and Maelor. In this scenario I see them asking her to choose between Aemond and Daeron or Aegon and Aemond
Aegon and aemond were fighters they can fight about B&C one of them is just a guard and the other one is a rat catcher aegon and aemond were trained warriors they could have killed B&C without any problem
Recap ends at 9:50
Heads. Spikes. Walls.
If Viserys was a good king he'd have dealt with Alicent, Aemond, and Otto as it was plain for years they were traitors in waiting. He condemned the realm to the Dance by allowing them to live.
This story is so good. Im on the hype train for Daeron I hope he wins cause honestly hes the most tragic character in this. His entire family is just killed off he has no choice but to fight or die
Can u do a what if Jace married Helaena
He has.
"to HOLD THE FORT"
Not "to hold -down- the fort"
It won't float away.
Please part 3
I doubt seasmoke would be forgotten when Rhaenys and meleys on both on driftmark
When’s part 3????
plotholes plotholes how would they get dragons off dragon stone without alerting the dragon keepers ???? and even if they get them why would Rey go to dragon stone leaving the red keep knowing this, even if she would know the minute she landed
Also LARYS SHOULD BE DEAD. That picture of him he keeps using literally shows him standing on the stage next to Helaena
What if Aegon supported Rhaenyra ?
Mania and this this same night the gods are good
Please second part what if Aemond died
Actually I thought you would make Daeron retreat to Essos and from there plan revenge against the blacks. that in practice it is a viable option and it is possible that it will succeed.
It would've prevented the deaths of thousands in war? But I find it funny how everyone considers this an empowering girlboss moment as if she didnt stomp dozens of innocent smallfolk to death. It made little narrative sense, and the writers mostly put it in there to look cool.
Part 3 mannnn
There is no way 3 out of 5 would be succesful in claiming dragons
There's no way they would be able to claim seasmoke
This is just the Dance of Dragons in yet another itteration. I was hoping for something more like the Blackyre Rebellion but with Dragons. I was thinking that Tyland Lannister would have built a private keep or given him one in the Westerlands along with building a Dragonpit not for Tessarion. Then years later after Daeron and Tessarion have many children their decendants have all become Dragonriders they take up arms against Jahaerys II and his children with some of the same plot points as your Dance of Dragons 2.0.
Daeron said cannon aemonds line
@kdjr3062 If/When Daeron does turn up on the show, I wonder who they'll cast in the role. (4/9/2024)
@@daniellemusella1594 idk if he will be showing up due to only being 8 eps
@@kdjr3062 They could work him into the show, as someone else's son or grandson. (4/10/2024)
@@kdjr3062 shows up next ep, how you feelin?
@@grey_man8281 Shii I can’t wait to see it I thought they were going to drag for pacing
even if daeron tried to take the throne from rhaenyra because he believes that his right birth because he male and raised in old town with his family of his mother yeah he will try to do this but unfortunately before he even gets his hands on throne he will die daemon will not let this happen young boy trying to be smart to take the throne of his wife daemon will never let this happen he will kill the support's of daeron and then daeron himself will kill him even if this takes his life at least his family is fine 😔 man i wish daeron just accepted rhaenyra as his queen and knew the truth that aegon never met to be king or good king and his other brother aemond who opposed with something happen in past so yeah he will said man my siblings was shit thanks to god they die ( not haleana of course) just imagine he see or heard what his mother did to his siblings 😅 he thanked rhaenys for this dacreys
Part 3