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What If Vaemond Won? (House Of The Dragon)
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- Опубликовано: 18 авг 2024
- Despite having a legitimate claim to his brothers throne, Ser Vaemond Velaryon was passed over in favor a bastard boy greener than summer grass, but what if things went differently?
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Let's all agree that Daemon attacking Vaemond from behind was a coward move.
Disrespected his wife. Regardless of Truth. That couldn't stand.
@dastellarnapster1652 he spoke the truth
@@dastellarnapster1652 him killing Vaemond only proved what he was saying was true.
@@kimberlyplatt2382 no it didn't. It proves that in this world you can't yap your gums without repercussions. In our universe post1990. You can
@@dastellarnapster1652
#Hewonwithhisdescendantsthatiswhyheisright.
Vaemond should have won. Alas, he's not one of the main characters. So he doesn't have plot armour.
@RhaenaOfPentos that's true, but this is George we're talking about, no ones safe from him. The end of fire and blood was brutal, especially for Rhaenyra, but will the show follow it? Who knows.
@@chrisanderson7258Fire & Blood doesn’t end with Rhaenyra though. It goes several years past the dance of the dragons.
@@carastone3473 Oh yeah sorry I was thinking of the Dance of the dragons part of fire and blood, my bad.
Nah I think at some point Rhaenys and Baela would’ve stepped up and put forth Baelas claim and now it’s a daughter vs an uncle.
@@carastone3473I literally cannot wait for Cregan Stark to show up like the boss that he was. I hope they don’t nerf him
This situation never would have happened under Jaehaerys reign. Rhaenyra would have been disinherited and Harwin Strong gelded and sent to the wall.
*gelded. ‘Gilded’ means covered with gold leaf or gold paint. ‘Gelded’ is a whole different story. 😂
*gelded, but I totally agree
What is with all of the psychotic castration fetishists posting on ASOIAF videos?
Jahaerys would never have made a woman heir.
@@calebbonney4193 He made Viserys heir which is decidedly worse.
Very cool that this video got made!
If Vaemond wins and House Velaryon has an internal schism but is overall neutral/TG then I see Rhaenyra forced to be more proactive with her dragons. Maybe she would even participate herself!
I do see her also turning on her allies (North & Vale) for not being punctual sending their armies. I also see the war being cut short as TB would be reckless with their dragon power and may even dip their toe into scorched earth tactics (via Daemon, Jaecerys and possibly a spiralling Rhaenyra).
The Greens would further spread the (not so inaccurate) image of "Rhaenyra the Cruel". Rhaenyra might be so despised by all that her allies wouldn't fight so defiantly after her death. Aegon II might not even be as harsh on her allies either as a result and maybe his reign lasts a few years longer. Maybe Aegon is able to sire a child. If it were a son, he'd likely be the new heir which leaves Aegon the Younger's fate something of a loose end...
Her dragon is more a pet than a war beast, even Sunfyre in his short-live has a lot of battle experience. Unlike Syrax who just is a flying lizard
I think it would have been interesting for Rhaenyra to have had an affair with one of Laenor's cousins (aka, one of Varmond's sons in the show). I wonder what Vaemond would have thought of Rhaenyra's sons being his grandsons biologically. Would he have still been so adamant to bar them from inheriting Driftmark if he knew they were his direct descendants?
and the whole bastardy rumor likely wouldn’t be a thing, even if alicent was somehow tipped off
Vaemond’s problem was that Driftmark was being given away to a child with no Velaryon blood, stealing from his family. If he knows the kids are Velaryon, even if they’re not Laenor’s, they still have a claim to Driftmark. And if they look Velaryon, nobody would ever know that Rhaenyra cheated unless she gets caught or is too obvious with her lover.
a "what if" that would cause great changes in the events of the war would be if all of Viserys and Alicent's children were born female, I believe that Otto would try to scheme a usurpation in the same way but the events would be so different that I would really like to see someone exploring the impacts of this on the political landscape of wuesteros
Well if Rhaenyra still has bastards in that scenario (which is likely the case) then that's the treason Otto will use to cast Rhaenyra out of the line of succession.
That being said, it would be interesting how the Greens go about preparing the realm for the 1st ever ruling Queen.
oooh this is a great one
That may be difficult. Otto, for all of his ambition, is a man of tradition. He wholly believes that a son comes first before a daughter, at least in the show. Besides, he doesn't have much leg to stand on if he pushes for his granddaughters to be queen rather than Rhaenyra. The lords of Westeros won't give him their support either. The only reason some of them did was because Aegon was a man.
@@chrisanderson7258 That's why I think he would go all out on an assassination plot against Rhaenyra rather than an opening war first.
@davisiotta489 That's a possibility, but I think he would tell Alicent to have more kids with Viserys first and have a son before he orders the assassination. Show Otto, contrary to people's belief, isn't actually evil. Yeah, sure, he's ambitious, and he wants to have his own blood at the throne, but that's what every lord in Westeros wants. That doesn't make him a bad person, so I doubt killing would be his first choice in the matter. As long as there is a chance for Alicent to give birth to a son, he won't commit to a drastic decision immediately.
What if Rhaenyra fathered her children with Corlys Valaryon during the time she was married to Laenor? ( she needed heirs, and Corlys is the closest male relative to Laenor)
Laenor has male cousins. Why would Rhaenyra sleep with Corlys if Laenor has other male relatives??
@mandoslore Corlys married his son to Rhaenyra so that he could be the grandfather of a future king ( i.e., the male children that Rhaenyra would have).
Laenor is gay and failed to have children with Rhaenyra, so ....
In my opinion, Corlys is a better option than Strong or any other potential baby dadies.
If Corlys was the father, the children would look Valaryon, and he would have kept his mouth shut about the true parentage. 👍 It's a win-win.
What if Aegon escaped before the coronation.
I would still argue that Daemon will still kill Vaemond because he like Rhaenyra don’t care about perception but I really like this video.
The real question is will house of the dragon include the silent 5. They probably won’t because they want to make Rt the hero of the story n really don’t want to portray the blacks in a more negative light.
According to Adal law vaemond doesn't have the best claim.Beala has it. In the law of westeros brother come before sisters,but daughters come before auncles.So after laenor its his sons, then Laena, then her kids then Vaemond.
Nobody fights for baela what bothered vaemond was one who doesn't inherent his blood is claiming his ancestral home. He was fair to fight for his home and legacy whether baela or corlys tried or not.
i really hate lucerys
I mean... even if he won, at the end of the day, he loses. The dragons accidentally👀😏... eat people all the time.
"What if Vaemond won"... as he should have*.
That part
Yup
Excellent companion to my morning coffee 👍
What if Rhaenrya married Jasin Lannister ?
I want this as well.
If Vaemond Won this, well he could have her grandnieces back on High tide souring about be there without dad but if they're still sour about the fact that Daemon married Rhaenyra, even before the bones of her mother and Uncle where cold. It would be interesting
Between Laenor and Vaemond, I have no idea why the Velaryons sided with the Blacks.
Vaemond already said it corly’s cares more about the history books then his own house
You should do a what if laenor/house verlaryon won the great coucil
You have to do a "what if Rhaenyra and Alicent were secretly lovers"
😂 Vaemond would still die before the war
That is true, but then everyone will know who killed him. It won't be a good look for team black.
But if she doesn’t go into preterm labor, her daughter doesn’t die …& we finally see our first Targaryen lizard baby 😈
I'm doing some research on The Song of Ice and Fire wiki they do have some Velaryon Blood but the problem is are they only inherit this Blood through their mother an ancestor I'm talking about in general is king Aegon Targaryen the Conqueror his mother was a Velaryon but not enough to legally rule Driftmark and this was over more than 130 years around aegon's time 130 years before the dance of the dragons
I wish my uncle vaemond won’t house of the dragon
wait if velaryon marry with targaryen before why do they look so different?