Not saying his reviews or videos are unscripted or unprepared, but he has a form of curiosity and flow which tells a story and is personal, not just a to-do list to get out of the way.
I believe you're the only 3d printer reviewer that's concerned about the noise those thing make. As an autistic maker I really appreciate it. Thank to this video I decided for this Avdenturer 5M Pro over the Creality K1. Thanks a lot, man!
Apparently they just released Klipper firmware for the 5M series and made the designs open source. Big steps in the right direction! They also released a printable enclosure design for the 5M, will have a cheap accessories kit to make it work, and dropped the price to $299 which is quite a bargain.
Thanks for the video, been waiting for someone thrustworthy talking about it. I do have a flashforge adventurer 3 for more or less 2 years and i can count on my fingers the times that have failed me.
I was debating between the K1 and this printer. I couldn't find any reviews on this one so I chose the 2nd gen version of the K1. Now I wish I waited but I'll prob get this one too in a few weeks. Shipping from China- my CC blocks direct purchases from China so I'll have to install an App on the iPhone to get it. Thanks for the great review- again. I like your RUclips channel so much better than the other "reviewers" on here. Don't change, stay real!
They are well optimized and very reliable though. Part of the struggle of making a silent fan is having it be reliable enough to keep working long term. Just a tiny amount of friction will reduce the fans performance greatly when dealing with such a small motor.
@@NathanBuildsRobotsyou should measure what the output voltage is when hooked up to a 24v source and without a fan plugged in. I would love to use these since buck converters are huge
Thanks for the vid this is one of the printers im most looking forward to. a lot of people give flashforge flack but they're easily one of the most reputable companies in the game and have a ton of their products in my print farm.
I had nothing but problems with my Adventurer 4 related to their "Auto Bed Leveling" which is blatantly false with that model. At least they are using load cells for this one
Flashforge printers are pretty bad. They like to say "professional" or "industrial", but their non-actively heated enclosed printers only reach a chamber temps of like 40-45c, which is nowhere near even ABS print temps. Their print quality is also worse than a stock ender 3 and very slow. And yet they claim those enclosed printers reaching 40-45c can print ABS, ASA, PC, etc. Their beds are also very thin so they warp significantly. Many of their printers that costs so much don't even have auto bed levelling. Very scummy company. Edit: By print quality it's not just the visible quality, but also referring to strength. Their printers often underextrude or overextrude q a bit
@@gedeonang7077 Roughly 50 of my printers are exclusively from flashforge and their sub brands (voxelab/monoprice/voxeldental). Most of my clients are in the agricultural field. With that being said i print a ton of functional parts out of engineering grade materials. These parts are put through some very heavy usage. I would 100% consider Flashforge to be both "professional" and "industrial" grade. Most of he problem people suffer from are user error and i can confidently say that given my experience with these printers. All printers will break down and have issues at some point. I think cost is some what of a moot point as their target market could care less about price and they do offer bulk discounts for companies. I want to say a 3rd of my units were purchased as open box returned printers for far below their market value (average cost is sitting about $67 per machine).
I used to own a Adventurer 3. Major problem was leveling as my bed seemed warped. Multipoint leveling was bad. (Which will not be the case on the 5M) Also issues with clogged nozzle over and over. Had to spend quite a bit on new nozzles as these are not standard. But it was a quiet machine. I really want to like this 5M, but my past experience is holding me back.
have to say Nathan that your channel is my favorite 3d printing review channel out there. You recommended a p1s for my next printer(my second machine. still noob). even though I could get a K1 for 250 less on discount. I trust your judgement. You seem honest and fair. Probably why some companies stopped sending you product :D. Thats what this industry needs though. Fair and honest assessments no matter if they paint the product in a favorable light or not. Keep up the good work sir
Thanks! P1S is a great printer. Lots of happy k1 owners out there too. Now this 5M adds another good option into the mix 🤯 Ultimately the Bambu lab decision to make essentially 1 refined printer design (P1P, P1S, X1, X1C, X1E) means they can focus on producing 1 thing reliably, and focus all of their manufacturing engineering energy on 1 product family. It’s a smart move for sure. Creality is spreading themselves too thin, with some really good designs, and some really… outdated designs. Wish they would consolidate and make just a few great products
Great introduction, thank you! Regarding solving the fan noise, my solution is: buy an MP1584EN for less than 2 euros to adjust the fan speed (voltage)
picked myself up the 5m non pro for 300USD on its current sale and for that price, it seems absolutely insane; can’t wait to give it a go and will likely implement your same fan mod
Nathan Builds Robots is your definitive source of 3D printer sound level testing data. 😛 I love that NBR's sponsored review of a company's new flagship printer immediately devolves into 30% of the video showing sheet metal hacking and hammering to swap their noisy little fan for a quiet Noctua fan. I watched this video again while waiting for the release of the specs and other info for the new FlashForge AD5X printer at 3 AM EST. I wish it was an enclosed Pro model and I wish it had a larger build volume, but I'm very intrigued with its ability to quickly swap between filaments with little material waste but mostly with the ability to run TPU through the multi-filament feeder. That's a game changer for me.
@@NathanBuildsRobots - That actually speaks volumes about FlashForge. Most companies wouldn't fix a product deficiency based on outside input. Many companies are reluctant to even fix a safety issue such as exposed AC mains voltage or a potential fire hazard once they start production. I was teasing a little about caring more about noisy 3D printers than almost anyone else, but this is an important issue and most manufacturers should care more about it.
@@NathanBuildsRobots it still runs like the day I got it now I did some upgrades like a spool holder replaced the nozzle (which it also has the hot swap) and bought a new bed and put a pei plate surface on it but it still prints amazing and it can go decently fast for a older bed slinger if I want to have detail its what I go to out of my current 4 printers (ender 3,kp3s, and monprice cadet 2 are my other ones)
ok, was scouting the net for some insights on Flashforge A5M review and dropped in on your channel and adaptation with the Noctua fans -- got subscribed!
Yeah, I'm here for your content. Solid. I print "professionally"(get paid for it, quality notwithstanding ) for my company, but this DIY, "This can be better", is what I love so much. Subbed!
“..Reloading The Magazine on a…”..Subbed🤙🏻 1-(Powerfully Exercising 1 and 2 in one sentence was Both admirable and impressive..) 2-( The “Flash Print5” Terms of service served nothing but to Shame them I almost returned it after reading it and still Might..) Not a bad Machine for the Price, technically speaking… I like to mod stuff, That’s why I purchased the Ad5m over the Pro.. Also, Makes a “clicking”..Extruder slip type noise when at rest..(Pressure Keeping?).. Regardless. I like to tinker and It’s worth it in Parts alone..🤙🏻
Agreed. In my original footage I stopped to say, “I might have to buy some after this” about 3 times but I cut it because I sounded like too much of a shill. But you should totally buy some 😉
@@NathanBuildsRobots I've been through about 3 spools already. Everyone likes it. Great for planters, desk organizers, phone stands, wall decorations, you name it. Absolutely great color.
Thanks for sending this out…. It’s noisy so I am going to modify it before printing with it. Haha. Awesome! You are the definitive source for 3D Printing! #goodshill
I’d wait a bit until you have some time on the machine. Infant mortality is real. I certainly wouldn’t honor a warranty if you presented that fan hack!
Looks very promising. The recirculating filter is the right design decision, as it keeps the chamber warm and multi-pass filters the air (which is needed to remove a high-enough level of particulates and VOCs. I might have missed it. Is the nozzle hardened? The plastic around the hotend looks like a glass-filled liquid crystal polymer (LCP). LCPs have very high temperature resistance (and low expansion coefficients and high tensile modulii).
Just got my 5m Pro today and it came with 2 nozzles. For the older AD4s you had to buy a separate hardened nozzle that you could snap on. I think these stock nozzles are hardened as it says it can print CF out of the box but I will check with flashforge to confirm.
Have been waiting for this Nathan review. Easy hotend swap, steel rods, and the color touchscreen would convince me to choose this one over a P1S. Does it have a high flow hotend? I’d mainly print PETG, how is the PETG speed and quality on this one? Also, are the steel rods glued or screwed in? Can you use Prusaslicer, as advertised? That PLA stringing was worrying, though. What brand was that? What about printing over Wifi? Is there a shady cloud service we have to pass through?
@@deflash I’m also thinking about the non pro version. I’m not going to print ABS because of the fumes. I’m very sensitive to smells, as much as Nathan is sensitive for noise. I feel PLA smell very strongly and can even smell PETG as unpleasant. So in the end, That’s why I’d pick the pro version, even for PETG. Also K1 got several updates since its release. I think the extruder was improved, and even Klipper got opened (is that right?). I’ll time my purchase for black friday to get the discounts and to buy the best option after the initial issues are fixed.
Seems like it would be as fast or even faster than bambu lab printers. All the speed and sleek looks without the proprietary nonsense. If you don't care about multicolor prints, then this is great.
Yep, although the AMS has a few other benefits too. Auto filament loading, auto switching when the spool is empty and you have a nice enclosed filament chamber which you can keep dry. Would be great if you could have this printer with an AMS like solution
Decent little machine but too small for what I want. Price point is really good and I think it will open more people up to flashforge now that they have a decent price point.
I’m trying to figure that out. There have been 2 printers on my network that aren’t accepting connections, so I wonder if it’s a network config thing in my end or if it’s something on these newer printers
If this printer can handle CF Nylon, I am very interested. I have been eyeing the Bambu P1S, as I want a printer that can handle nylon, and also just works with minimal fuss. That is the big thing, minimal tinkering and fuss just to get a print going and to complete without drama. I have an Ender for times I want to tinker around. The Bambu does offer more build volume in the X/Y, and can manage PC printing, with the hotter extruder… But those are nice to haves more than necessity for me right now.
Yeah though it would be awesome if someone came up with an aftermarket adapter that let you use any V6 style nozzle and went up to higher temps. No idea why the FlashForge temperatures are so conservative
@@NathanBuildsRobots I wonder if it can go hotter if you edited the config, or if the plastic surrounding the nozzle/heater would deform from the heat. 280* should be hot enough for CF Nylon printing. The biggest variable for me, is if the thing works as well, or close enough to the Bambu. The slicer profiles and config are high points for Bambu. Basically little to no tinkering with settings and profiles to get excellent results. I don’t know if Flashforge has well done profiles available for this printer, so I am keeping an eye out for more reviews.
I assume so, but refer to their website for the best info. I know they advertise being able to print CF and GF reinforced materials, so they must have a hardened steel nozzle version
Are you drawing heat away from the board with the Noctua fan? If so. Do you want it to draw heat into the FDM roll back there? Would that affect the FDM adversely?
Flow rate and print speed are 2 separate things. You can print very thick layers and get high flow rate at low print speed, or print thin layers and get low flow rate at high print speeds. That’s why they provide both numbers, so you can know the limits in different scenarios
@@NathanBuildsRobots yeah should said and was wondering if it was same specs as bambu but seems like same as k1. just seen the end of video where u said 600mm thanks
Modded Ender 3s are like the Honda civics in the modded car scene. This is like the guy that installs a hood scoop on a car with a sawzall and a bucket of JB-Weld
I sell and repair printers, one big objection I have to the Flashforge adventurers is the outrageous price of a mainboard. I can replace most boards for under $50 AUD but it is $200 for the Flashforge and it looks a lot like the one you just showed. I sell the Adventurer 3 lite for $275 and it is $200 to replace the mainboard.
Does the printer accept Gcode files? The last Flashforge printers that we got at our school were Adventurer 3 and Artemis printers I believe and they were locked to using Flashprint and not able to accept gcode.
Thank you Nathan for the thougful review. I have been doing 3d printing in my classroom since 2016, getting my first printers from grants. My school district likes to supply flashforge 3d printers for their engineering classes in the past. Not taking gcode was a pain point for me since flashprint used to only export .gx files and not gcode which meant i was stuck using their slicer only. I am still using 2 makergear m3 printers to do most of my printing becauae they take gcode. Your review has made me consider this printer over the p1s for printing in the classroom. It does look like a nice well put together printer. The touch screen and front usb slot is super useful in the classroom environment.
K1 is cheaper and their slicer has great Wi-Fi capabilities. 5M pro is quieter and has a good air filter with slightly better print quality and quick change nozzle so you won’t ever really need to use an Allen wrench for routine maintenance. Both are great, fast printers, the k1 is the more budget friendly option especially if you find it on sale
There was a spec sheet, it’s also missing the camera and the chamber filters and fans (because there is no chamber) But touchscreen, print volume, print speeds, quick change nozzle system, etc are all the same
Nathan looks like the neighbor that you see on a daily basis, where you just share a nod and he goes into his home, not saying a word. But if you were are not home and get an Amazon package, he has your back and will probably leave it on your welcome mat with a random ass benchy print or something.
What is the current-draw if the front facing button is used? I imagine the back one is an isolator and the print a digital flip-flop, similar to desktop PC switches. But does it pull current, is it connect to the network? Can you wake-on-lan the printer, And can something like In-Your-Sleep-Bambu printing occur?
The mainbaord fan is just way too loud, period. It's almost as loud as the part cooling fan and it's always running. It should have been a big slim fan to begin with, you also don't have to cut a hole into the cover. There are already 3d printable covers with a 120mm mount or you can just do it like me and leave the cover off and replace the tiny OG fan with a 120mm fan, the screw holes perfectly fit the 120mm spacing.
@@kwedl I've heard that this printer has an auto shutdown and turns off (physically cutting off power to the board) after 10 minutes or so of inactivity...
@@kwedl If it's not too much trouble, I would like to know if this printer has replaceable nozzles? So I can unscrew it and replace it with my volcano nozzle? Another question: what kind of hardened nozzles are there?
I have a question. I am planning to get a printer for myself and I was between Bambu A1 AMS combo and this maschine. I am more inclined towards this one because of the air filtering feature. The reason being that I have no place but my bedroom to put this in. Would you recommend this maschine in my situation or would you say dont put anything in your bedroom. Im concerned due to health conditiones that could be caused by smelling micro particles.
Are you using Flashprint or another slicer? Flashprint seems to fall behind some of the others for features. It is closed source from what I can tell, and that makes development slower. Also, since it is killer based, can you use the web interface options? How about access to the printer config files?
Files were sliced using orcaslicer. They provide a profile that you just import and it’s good to go. Not sure about the Klipper implementation yet. When I tried to connect to the IP the web interface refused a connection. Not sure if there is some configuration I need to do, or what. Unfortunately for these early access machines the software and documentation isn’t always complete to be able to know all these things. Will follow up if I learn more
my dream printer would be an enclosed core xy with the quick change nozzle system capable of higher temp materials with a build area of ~275mm³. printers like this shouldnt have Ender3 sized build areas imo. you didnt say if it was a direct drive extruder, and if you did, apologies. i think these companies can come up with a Cura plug-in for the printer if they can put the effort into reskinning/customizing a Prusa based slicer. make it available on the downloads page of their websites.
This was actually one of the best reviews (even paid) that i have seen so far. :) Currently have a Adventurer 4 and while it does the job. I think its time for me to move up a bit. :) Even though i dont like the smaller space in the 5M pro. It does come in at a pretty good price point. :) Thought the P1S is only slightly more expensive. If you were to pick between those 2, which one would you pick? :)
@@NathanBuildsRobots I was thinking about getting the 5M pro instead for the enclosure, which helps with air quality and stuff :) So the 5M pro is about 600$ is roughly 860$ However the build size is alot bigger on the P1S... So it's a tough choice though 🙈
I’ll send them an email requesting one. It sounds like a fantastic new design, but they already have so many orders to fill. Maybe once production is in full swing
Do you think we can get an update video in a few months once it's been put through some more hours? It's all well and good out of the box but I'm curious how well it will hold up, I've seen the adventurer series have this long term problem
Not sure, I’ll keep the printer around for a while but I don’t churn though filament as much as a print farm operator. Will note if any issues come up, but it appears to be well built
Been waiting forever for a review of this printer. Thanks!!! Too bad you changed the fan in the back. For me I would not do that so I'm interested in how loud it is un-modded when printing.
The results would probably be the same, plus maybe 1 or 2 dB. dB is a logarithmic scale, so it takes a lot of extra noise to go up significantly on the scale
I know this isnt a CR10 SE video, but since its on your bench have you had a chance to use it? Would you recommend it? Creality has it for $70 off right now just waitng for your review before pulling the trigger!
The Ender 3 SE is a much better value. What they are doing at the price point is insane. On the same note, the CR-10 SE isn’t as good of a value, but it is a good printer. Only issue is fan noise. Ender 3 KE might be a better buy as well in terms of value for money
@@NathanBuildsRobots I never understood the "standard" format became 220'ish mm. I mean, belts and extrusions are produced by the kilometer, the number of parts aren't growing with build-volume, motors, electronics, assembly and handling is identical.
What I'm wondering, is what the ACTUAL speeds are for it. Flashforge tend to undersell the speeds their machines are capable of. For instance, their Adventurer 3 Pro is advertised as 30-100mm/s, but can easily print 180-200mm/s with the right settings, so I'm wondering how much they're underselling the 5M Pro's speed.
Great review I had a Flashforge 3pro for my 1st printer and loved it but the build volume was really small, I really appreciated the easy swap hot ends! I changed it to an Elegoo N3P and would love to have multi-colour prints. Do you think they will ever think about AMS for these machines?
Someone has to be working on an AMS system. Bambu is killing it right now since they are the only affordable and usable option. But I’m sure creality and PRUSA have something in the works
Someone has to be working on an AMS system. Bambu is killing it right now since they are the only affordable and usable option. But I’m sure creality and PRUSA have something in the works
Love the Adventurer 5M deep dive! 😊 Flashforge AD5M Pro is my go-to, assembly-free and smooth results every time! I mean, who doesn't love swapping nozzles in 3 seconds flat!? 😂 Ever tried it? 🙌 It's a game-changer! 🚀 #FlashforgeFanatic
i'd have just drilled a bunch of holes to make a grill instead of cutting the whole thing off lol probably would have printed a drill guide to make it look nice too.
Not saying his reviews or videos are unscripted or unprepared, but he has a form of curiosity and flow which tells a story and is personal, not just a to-do list to get out of the way.
I thought I had the ugliest hole in the bottom of my printer, but you take that price, well done, great review, I like your style :D
I believe you're the only 3d printer reviewer that's concerned about the noise those thing make. As an autistic maker I really appreciate it. Thank to this video I decided for this Avdenturer 5M Pro over the Creality K1. Thanks a lot, man!
Apparently they just released Klipper firmware for the 5M series and made the designs open source. Big steps in the right direction! They also released a printable enclosure design for the 5M, will have a cheap accessories kit to make it work, and dropped the price to $299 which is quite a bargain.
would you suggest the 5m or the 5m pro, if you were going to buy one.
@@murphdog8781 5M if you want to tinker and save money, Pro if you want the best printer out of the box.
Looks like a great design, I like the look of this over the K1
Great stuff as usual Nathan, thanks for the informative feed, always entertaining. Love your Macgyver style.
Nice little printer. Thank you for the review. I am sure your work with the nibbler gave everyone a good chuckle 😊
I showed the video to FlashForge ahead of posting it and they were like, “I’m not sure why you did that, but go ahead and post the video.” 😂
@@NathanBuildsRobots 😀
Thanks for the video, been waiting for someone thrustworthy talking about it.
I do have a flashforge adventurer 3 for more or less 2 years and i can count on my fingers the times that have failed me.
I’m still for singing trustworthy to review it. But it looks quite good!
I was debating between the K1 and this printer. I couldn't find any reviews on this one so I chose the 2nd gen version of the K1. Now I wish I waited but I'll prob get this one too in a few weeks. Shipping from China- my CC blocks direct purchases from China so I'll have to install an App on the iPhone to get it. Thanks for the great review- again. I like your RUclips channel so much better than the other "reviewers" on here. Don't change, stay real!
Lots of others sounds more like home TV shopping network. I’m going for note off the Home Improvement/Red Green Show/This Old House vibe
BUT WAIT, there’s more!!!
More??? Can't wait to see !!!!@@NathanBuildsRobots
The main thing holding me back from using the Noctua fans was the voltage difference but that little adapter they gave you is pretty cool.
Don't most boards just have voltage jumpers nowadays?
my main reason is they are weak that's why they are quiet
They are well optimized and very reliable though. Part of the struggle of making a silent fan is having it be reliable enough to keep working long term. Just a tiny amount of friction will reduce the fans performance greatly when dealing with such a small motor.
Not sure how it works yet. It’s a cool little device though. Super inconspicuous and easy to install
@@NathanBuildsRobotsyou should measure what the output voltage is when hooked up to a 24v source and without a fan plugged in. I would love to use these since buck converters are huge
Thanks for the vid this is one of the printers im most looking forward to. a lot of people give flashforge flack but they're easily one of the most reputable companies in the game and have a ton of their products in my print farm.
They seem more geared for professional work, but coming in at beginner/budget friendly pricing
I had nothing but problems with my Adventurer 4 related to their "Auto Bed Leveling" which is blatantly false with that model. At least they are using load cells for this one
Flashforge printers are pretty bad. They like to say "professional" or "industrial", but their non-actively heated enclosed printers only reach a chamber temps of like 40-45c, which is nowhere near even ABS print temps. Their print quality is also worse than a stock ender 3 and very slow. And yet they claim those enclosed printers reaching 40-45c can print ABS, ASA, PC, etc. Their beds are also very thin so they warp significantly. Many of their printers that costs so much don't even have auto bed levelling. Very scummy company.
Edit: By print quality it's not just the visible quality, but also referring to strength. Their printers often underextrude or overextrude q a bit
@@gedeonang7077 Roughly 50 of my printers are exclusively from flashforge and their sub brands (voxelab/monoprice/voxeldental). Most of my clients are in the agricultural field. With that being said i print a ton of functional parts out of engineering grade materials. These parts are put through some very heavy usage. I would 100% consider Flashforge to be both "professional" and "industrial" grade. Most of he problem people suffer from are user error and i can confidently say that given my experience with these printers. All printers will break down and have issues at some point. I think cost is some what of a moot point as their target market could care less about price and they do offer bulk discounts for companies. I want to say a 3rd of my units were purchased as open box returned printers for far below their market value (average cost is sitting about $67 per machine).
@@gedeonang7077 are you talking about this model?
I used to own a Adventurer 3.
Major problem was leveling as my bed seemed warped. Multipoint leveling was bad. (Which will not be the case on the 5M)
Also issues with clogged nozzle over and over. Had to spend quite a bit on new nozzles as these are not standard.
But it was a quiet machine.
I really want to like this 5M, but my past experience is holding me back.
have to say Nathan that your channel is my favorite 3d printing review channel out there. You recommended a p1s for my next printer(my second machine. still noob). even though I could get a K1 for 250 less on discount. I trust your judgement. You seem honest and fair. Probably why some companies stopped sending you product :D. Thats what this industry needs though. Fair and honest assessments no matter if they paint the product in a favorable light or not. Keep up the good work sir
Thanks! P1S is a great printer. Lots of happy k1 owners out there too. Now this 5M adds another good option into the mix 🤯
Ultimately the Bambu lab decision to make essentially 1 refined printer design (P1P, P1S, X1, X1C, X1E) means they can focus on producing 1 thing reliably, and focus all of their manufacturing engineering energy on 1 product family. It’s a smart move for sure. Creality is spreading themselves too thin, with some really good designs, and some really… outdated designs. Wish they would consolidate and make just a few great products
Great introduction, thank you! Regarding solving the fan noise, my solution is: buy an MP1584EN for less than 2 euros to adjust the fan speed (voltage)
picked myself up the 5m non pro for 300USD on its current sale and for that price, it seems absolutely insane; can’t wait to give it a go and will likely implement your same fan mod
Nathan Builds Robots is your definitive source of 3D printer sound level testing data. 😛
I love that NBR's sponsored review of a company's new flagship printer immediately devolves into 30% of the video showing sheet metal hacking and hammering to swap their noisy little fan for a quiet Noctua fan.
I watched this video again while waiting for the release of the specs and other info for the new FlashForge AD5X printer at 3 AM EST. I wish it was an enclosed Pro model and I wish it had a larger build volume, but I'm very intrigued with its ability to quickly swap between filaments with little material waste but mostly with the ability to run TPU through the multi-filament feeder. That's a game changer for me.
They fixed the fan shortly after this vid btw 🤣
@@NathanBuildsRobots - That actually speaks volumes about FlashForge. Most companies wouldn't fix a product deficiency based on outside input. Many companies are reluctant to even fix a safety issue such as exposed AC mains voltage or a potential fire hazard once they start production. I was teasing a little about caring more about noisy 3D printers than almost anyone else, but this is an important issue and most manufacturers should care more about it.
That Ned Flanders transformation will be right on time for Halloween!
Feels like I’m wearing nothing at all!
That flashforge burnt titanium is a nice color. I recently printed a RC car from 3DSets in that color.
It really is a cool color. Other manufacturers should take note and include fun/cool colors instead of boring white filament
I have loved my adventurer 3 since I got it like 2 years ago so I am looking at this for a core xy for more detailed and faster printing
How has it held up over the years? People always ask me about long term reliability and I’m like - idk I just got the thing
@@NathanBuildsRobots it still runs like the day I got it now I did some upgrades like a spool holder replaced the nozzle (which it also has the hot swap) and bought a new bed and put a pei plate surface on it but it still prints amazing and it can go decently fast for a older bed slinger if I want to have detail its what I go to out of my current 4 printers (ender 3,kp3s, and monprice cadet 2 are my other ones)
I doubt this would give you more detail. The Adventurer with a 0.2 nozzle is pretty good.
@@petercallison5765 I didn't know they had one thank you for informing me
Finally something at a good price (There other printers had crazy amounts to pay, like 3500€ for a DLP Resin Printer)
The stache is sick brother!
The 5m nonpro vs the Ender 3 v3 ke, wich one its better?
Maybe invest in a holesaw kit?
ok, was scouting the net for some insights on Flashforge A5M review and dropped in on your channel and adaptation with the Noctua fans -- got subscribed!
Your channeling of Red Green at the Possum Lodge just made my day. The review was good too. ;)
Nice, that’s exactly what I aim for. What a good old show.
Yeah, I'm here for your content. Solid. I print "professionally"(get paid for it, quality notwithstanding ) for my company, but this DIY, "This can be better", is what I love so much. Subbed!
I appreciate that you measure noise levels. Compared with Bambu Lab P1S, which one is noisier? Big or no difference (with the stock cooling fans)?
Would love to see some follow up videos on this printer.
I'm Commander Shepard and this is my favorite store on the Citadel.
Love that quick release hot end. If they made a K1 max size model I'd buy it.
“..Reloading The Magazine on a…”..Subbed🤙🏻
1-(Powerfully Exercising 1 and 2 in one sentence was Both admirable and impressive..)
2-( The “Flash Print5” Terms of service served nothing but to Shame them I almost returned it after reading it and still Might..)
Not a bad Machine for the Price, technically speaking…
I like to mod stuff, That’s why I purchased the Ad5m over the Pro..
Also, Makes a “clicking”..Extruder slip type noise when at rest..(Pressure Keeping?)..
Regardless. I like to tinker and It’s worth it in Parts alone..🤙🏻
That Flashforge Burnt Titanium is a bad ass color
Agreed. In my original footage I stopped to say, “I might have to buy some after this” about 3 times but I cut it because I sounded like too much of a shill.
But you should totally buy some 😉
@@NathanBuildsRobots I've been through about 3 spools already. Everyone likes it. Great for planters, desk organizers, phone stands, wall decorations, you name it. Absolutely great color.
Big fan of this channel. Big thumbs up for that fan hole cutout! 😂
Everybody likes a brown fan hole
@@NathanBuildsRobotsabsolutely! 😂
I LOVE my FF-A5MP ❤❤❤ Thanks for helping me decide! Cheers!!!!
Custom fan mounting was top notch!
As always, great video!
Thanks for sending this out…. It’s noisy so I am going to modify it before printing with it. Haha. Awesome! You are the definitive source for 3D Printing! #goodshill
The fan mod was a #badshill moment, but I gotta do my thing!
I’d wait a bit until you have some time on the machine. Infant mortality is real. I certainly wouldn’t honor a warranty if you presented that fan hack!
the bed is nice, it sticks without appling any glue or other method.
A hole saw would have been a good common tool for cutting the fan hole in the back panel.
Would have made it alot more aesthetic looking :D And I might have moved it a bit down and left, if i had to do it. :D
Looks very promising. The recirculating filter is the right design decision, as it keeps the chamber warm and multi-pass filters the air (which is needed to remove a high-enough level of particulates and VOCs.
I might have missed it. Is the nozzle hardened?
The plastic around the hotend looks like a glass-filled liquid crystal polymer (LCP). LCPs have very high temperature resistance (and low expansion coefficients and high tensile modulii).
Just got my 5m Pro today and it came with 2 nozzles. For the older AD4s you had to buy a separate hardened nozzle that you could snap on. I think these stock nozzles are hardened as it says it can print CF out of the box but I will check with flashforge to confirm.
Have been waiting for this Nathan review. Easy hotend swap, steel rods, and the color touchscreen would convince me to choose this one over a P1S. Does it have a high flow hotend? I’d mainly print PETG, how is the PETG speed and quality on this one? Also, are the steel rods glued or screwed in? Can you use Prusaslicer, as advertised? That PLA stringing was worrying, though. What brand was that? What about printing over Wifi? Is there a shady cloud service we have to pass through?
Basically a Bambu Lab printer without the annoying Bambu Lab things. I’ll take it!
Me too bro, thinking about k1 vs 5m pro. Petg most of time...dunno what to buy
@@deflash I’m also thinking about the non pro version. I’m not going to print ABS because of the fumes. I’m very sensitive to smells, as much as Nathan is sensitive for noise. I feel PLA smell very strongly and can even smell PETG as unpleasant. So in the end, That’s why I’d pick the pro version, even for PETG. Also K1 got several updates since its release. I think the extruder was improved, and even Klipper got opened (is that right?). I’ll time my purchase for black friday to get the discounts and to buy the best option after the initial issues are fixed.
Do you know if the Klipper is fully unlocked or similar to the QIDI implementation?
No idea, I need to dig into the details a bit more
Seems like it would be as fast or even faster than bambu lab printers. All the speed and sleek looks without the proprietary nonsense. If you don't care about multicolor prints, then this is great.
Yep, and a good deal cheaper too
Yep, although the AMS has a few other benefits too. Auto filament loading, auto switching when the spool is empty and you have a nice enclosed filament chamber which you can keep dry. Would be great if you could have this printer with an AMS like solution
@@matroosoft4589 Yea those are great features but there are other filament storage solutions that could work there too.
Nice, I hope you review that Maglev printer releasing in a few days :D That ones gonna be cool to see.
I’m sure 3D Printing Nerd will have a video about it at ERRF. I did MRRF THIS YEAR, so Ill probably be sitting ERRF out this year 🥲
Decent little machine but too small for what I want. Price point is really good and I think it will open more people up to flashforge now that they have a decent price point.
The price point is actually shockingly good for what it is
Can I send data via wifi using orca slicer?
I’m trying to figure that out. There have been 2 printers on my network that aren’t accepting connections, so I wonder if it’s a network config thing in my end or if it’s something on these newer printers
OS 2.0dev version can do this, been using it all day today. Should come to a stable release soon.
What is the difference between the 5M and the 5M pro? Is it just the box and filter? Or are there other details?
If this printer can handle CF Nylon, I am very interested.
I have been eyeing the Bambu P1S, as I want a printer that can handle nylon, and also just works with minimal fuss.
That is the big thing, minimal tinkering and fuss just to get a print going and to complete without drama.
I have an Ender for times I want to tinker around.
The Bambu does offer more build volume in the X/Y, and can manage PC printing, with the hotter extruder… But those are nice to haves more than necessity for me right now.
Yeah though it would be awesome if someone came up with an aftermarket adapter that let you use any V6 style nozzle and went up to higher temps. No idea why the FlashForge temperatures are so conservative
@@NathanBuildsRobots I wonder if it can go hotter if you edited the config, or if the plastic surrounding the nozzle/heater would deform from the heat.
280* should be hot enough for CF Nylon printing.
The biggest variable for me, is if the thing works as well, or close enough to the Bambu. The slicer profiles and config are high points for Bambu. Basically little to no tinkering with settings and profiles to get excellent results.
I don’t know if Flashforge has well done profiles available for this printer, so I am keeping an eye out for more reviews.
Once I saw the noctuas come out, I went and got some pop corn. haha
Noctuas go brrrrrr
Is that nozzle proprietary? Is there a hardened steel nozzle for carbon fiber filament?
I assume so, but refer to their website for the best info. I know they advertise being able to print CF and GF reinforced materials, so they must have a hardened steel nozzle version
Does it have the flow sensor control?
@nathanbuildsrobots which would u pick if u could only have 1: this Flashforge Adventurer 5M pro OR the Elegoo Neptune 4 pro?
Are you drawing heat away from the board with the Noctua fan? If so. Do you want it to draw heat into the FDM roll back there? Would that affect the FDM adversely?
There is not enough heat coming off the Mainboard to affect the filament
Cool. Thanks.
is it 32mm flow rate at 500 mm max print speed ?
Flow rate and print speed are 2 separate things.
You can print very thick layers and get high flow rate at low print speed, or print thin layers and get low flow rate at high print speeds. That’s why they provide both numbers, so you can know the limits in different scenarios
@@NathanBuildsRobots yeah should said and was wondering if it was same specs as bambu but seems like same as k1. just seen the end of video where u said 600mm thanks
That new Noctua fan looks like OEM factory fittted 😆
Modded Ender 3s are like the Honda civics in the modded car scene. This is like the guy that installs a hood scoop on a car with a sawzall and a bucket of JB-Weld
On the flashforge site, the 5M doesn't print ASA or ABS you need the 5M pro - same price as Bambu, etc etc - What gives?
5M is unenclosed like P1P, 5M Pro has enclosure like P1S
I must have missed that detail. Thank you - I almost pulled the trigger 😝
Apple just got a new CEO
Temps are dropping, expect to see more turtle necks
Any update on WiFi setting to print via WiFi?
Holy hell, it looks like you got a badger to gnaw that hole out of the panel 🤣
Have anyone the name of the sound level app he is using?
Decibel X
Other reviews say you have to use the glue stick for prints to stick the the bed. Does anyone have real world experience with this??
One other review said that the included gluestick left a residue on the buildplate and that the adhesion wasnt good. :)
I sell and repair printers, one big objection I have to the Flashforge adventurers is the outrageous price of a mainboard. I can replace most boards for under $50 AUD but it is $200 for the Flashforge and it looks a lot like the one you just showed. I sell the Adventurer 3 lite for $275 and it is $200 to replace the mainboard.
That is absurd, they should definitely get the Mainboard prices down
Can I access the klipper on this device somehow ?
Does the printer accept Gcode files? The last Flashforge printers that we got at our school were Adventurer 3 and Artemis printers I believe and they were locked to using Flashprint and not able to accept gcode.
That’s crazy. These accept gcode files. I used Orcaslicer and uploaded them via USB
Thank you Nathan for the thougful review. I have been doing 3d printing in my classroom since 2016, getting my first printers from grants. My school district likes to supply flashforge 3d printers for their engineering classes in the past. Not taking gcode was a pain point for me since flashprint used to only export .gx files and not gcode which meant i was stuck using their slicer only. I am still using 2 makergear m3 printers to do most of my printing becauae they take gcode.
Your review has made me consider this printer over the p1s for printing in the classroom. It does look like a nice well put together printer. The touch screen and front usb slot is super useful in the classroom environment.
I am in doubt between these two printers, the Creality K1 or the Flashforge 5m Pro, which one would you recommend? Thank you.
K1 is cheaper and their slicer has great Wi-Fi capabilities.
5M pro is quieter and has a good air filter with slightly better print quality and quick change nozzle so you won’t ever really need to use an Allen wrench for routine maintenance.
Both are great, fast printers, the k1 is the more budget friendly option especially if you find it on sale
Gets a brand new printer. Immediately proceeds to hack a giant hole on the side panel...
Priceless ! 🤣🤣🤣
If it ain’t broke, fix it
Is the only difference between the Adventurer 5M and 5M Pro really only the enclosure ? Or are there some more differences?
There was a spec sheet, it’s also missing the camera and the chamber filters and fans (because there is no chamber)
But touchscreen, print volume, print speeds, quick change nozzle system, etc are all the same
@@NathanBuildsRobots I might have missed it in your video but what's with the camera? Can you view the camera feed on your phone or PC?
There are a few differences - automatic shutdown after printing is finished
I wish you could review the printer then demolish it. It would be nice to see how they run stock from the box.
It would run the same, just with a little extra fan noise
You got me there 😂
How you get money to buy new 3d printer every week
This video was sponsored and the machine was sent for free
should do a 300x300mm bed size, at a similar price
Nathan looks like the neighbor that you see on a daily basis, where you just share a nod and he goes into his home, not saying a word. But if you were are not home and get an Amazon package, he has your back and will probably leave it on your welcome mat with a random ass benchy print or something.
Truth
What is the current-draw if the front facing button is used? I imagine the back one is an isolator and the print a digital flip-flop, similar to desktop PC switches. But does it pull current, is it connect to the network? Can you wake-on-lan the printer, And can something like In-Your-Sleep-Bambu printing occur?
That is, during printing, it works at 47 db and it messed up the back wall to get the same result during printing...
The mainbaord fan is just way too loud, period. It's almost as loud as the part cooling fan and it's always running. It should have been a big slim fan to begin with, you also don't have to cut a hole into the cover. There are already 3d printable covers with a 120mm mount or you can just do it like me and leave the cover off and replace the tiny OG fan with a 120mm fan, the screw holes perfectly fit the 120mm spacing.
@@kwedl I've heard that this printer has an auto shutdown and turns off (physically cutting off power to the board) after 10 minutes or so of inactivity...
@@kwedl If it's not too much trouble, I would like to know if this printer has replaceable nozzles? So I can unscrew it and replace it with my volcano nozzle? Another question: what kind of hardened nozzles are there?
I have a question. I am planning to get a printer for myself and I was between Bambu A1 AMS combo and this maschine. I am more inclined towards this one because of the air filtering feature. The reason being that I have no place but my bedroom to put this in. Would you recommend this maschine in my situation or would you say dont put anything in your bedroom. Im concerned due to health conditiones that could be caused by smelling micro particles.
Are you using Flashprint or another slicer?
Flashprint seems to fall behind some of the others for features. It is closed source from what I can tell, and that makes development slower.
Also, since it is killer based, can you use the web interface options? How about access to the printer config files?
Files were sliced using orcaslicer. They provide a profile that you just import and it’s good to go.
Not sure about the Klipper implementation yet. When I tried to connect to the IP the web interface refused a connection. Not sure if there is some configuration I need to do, or what. Unfortunately for these early access machines the software and documentation isn’t always complete to be able to know all these things. Will follow up if I learn more
@@NathanBuildsRobots Thanks
my dream printer would be an enclosed core xy with the quick change nozzle system capable of higher temp materials with a build area of ~275mm³. printers like this shouldnt have Ender3 sized build areas imo.
you didnt say if it was a direct drive extruder, and if you did, apologies.
i think these companies can come up with a Cura plug-in for the printer if they can put the effort into reskinning/customizing a Prusa based slicer. make it available on the downloads page of their websites.
"It's like reloading the maga..." I'm 💀. 🤣😂
Is there any reason this can’t print nylon? The hot end can go hot enough but they don’t list it as a supported filament
I’m guessing they just didn’t think about it or test it. It should be able to handle nylons except for the higher temp stuff that requires 300C+
why not invest in some hole saws or one size specific to the noctua fans?
it's a shame they didn't launch a larger version, seems like a very promising concept.
Always good to start small and perfect things before scaling up
It's because it's easier to make these smaller machines faster cheaper etc.
Can you use any other slicer besides Orca Slicer? Ie. Bambulab, Prusa?
Which one would you recommend - 5M, 5M Pro, or Creality K1? Will be mostly printing robot parts with PETG.
Just PETG I’d go with the 5M. The P1P makes good PETG parts too
You probably want a textured PEI SHEET. My PETG parts have absolutely torn any smooth surfaces to shreds within 5 prints.
But also… the 5M is $380 with discount code, so it’s almost half the price of the P1P - seems like the best deal of the bunch
Very carefully cut out a hole for the fan - a real robot designer
This was actually one of the best reviews (even paid) that i have seen so far. :) Currently have a Adventurer 4 and while it does the job. I think its time for me to move up a bit. :) Even though i dont like the smaller space in the 5M pro. It does come in at a pretty good price point. :) Thought the P1S is only slightly more expensive.
If you were to pick between those 2, which one would you pick? :)
P1S is really good…
I think the real value proposition for the 5M is in the non-pro model for under $400.
@@NathanBuildsRobots
I was thinking about getting the 5M pro instead for the enclosure, which helps with air quality and stuff :) So the 5M pro is about 600$ is roughly 860$
However the build size is alot bigger on the P1S... So it's a tough choice though 🙈
"its almost like uhh reloading the magazine on a..." LMAO
Don’t want to get demonetized 🔫🔫🔫
I am still waiting till Nathan builds his first robot
Lol
Would love to hear your thoughts on Peopoly Magneto X... or if you were to get a review printer to give your opinion, that would be even better.
I’ll send them an email requesting one. It sounds like a fantastic new design, but they already have so many orders to fill. Maybe once production is in full swing
They made the nozzle unclogging very easy because you're gonna need it 1000s of times Before you throw it out the balcony.😂😂😂
Why?
@@essentials1016 Wait and see.
is it hassle free?
Do you think we can get an update video in a few months once it's been put through some more hours? It's all well and good out of the box but I'm curious how well it will hold up, I've seen the adventurer series have this long term problem
Not sure, I’ll keep the printer around for a while but I don’t churn though filament as much as a print farm operator. Will note if any issues come up, but it appears to be well built
@@NathanBuildsRobots thanks! I’m more interested as a hobbyist, glad to hear it seems well built since the price is very competitive
Been waiting forever for a review of this printer. Thanks!!!
Too bad you changed the fan in the back. For me I would not do that so I'm interested in how loud it is un-modded when printing.
The results would probably be the same, plus maybe 1 or 2 dB. dB is a logarithmic scale, so it takes a lot of extra noise to go up significantly on the scale
Hi Good video , did you test that Ender 3 V3 KE ? it's a interesting Machine because has linear rail on X axis and upgraded sprite extruder .
Seems nice, but for now I have the CR-10 SE
@@NathanBuildsRobotsOk looks almost the same
I know this isnt a CR10 SE video, but since its on your bench have you had a chance to use it? Would you recommend it? Creality has it for $70 off right now just waitng for your review before pulling the trigger!
The Ender 3 SE is a much better value. What they are doing at the price point is insane. On the same note, the CR-10 SE isn’t as good of a value, but it is a good printer. Only issue is fan noise.
Ender 3 KE might be a better buy as well in terms of value for money
thanks! I am also eyeing the KE. Looking for a the best next gen klipper bed slinger! @@NathanBuildsRobots
I like this one.
Why don't I buy one then? ...
I need a much larger build volume. At least 350*350mm
FlashForge has larger machines. Would be really interested to see an offering in this product family (low budget semi-pro) in a larger print volume.
@@NathanBuildsRobots I never understood the "standard" format became 220'ish mm.
I mean, belts and extrusions are produced by the kilometer, the number of parts aren't growing with build-volume, motors, electronics, assembly and handling is identical.
What are this review about? I was lost in the inception background screen. Lol
63993 reviews to go before I decide which printer to buy.🤔 Hopefully before Christmas.😂😂😂
I’ll have to start reviewing blades of grass to reach that number
What I'm wondering, is what the ACTUAL speeds are for it. Flashforge tend to undersell the speeds their machines are capable of. For instance, their Adventurer 3 Pro is advertised as 30-100mm/s, but can easily print 180-200mm/s with the right settings, so I'm wondering how much they're underselling the 5M Pro's speed.
One thing is for sure, you can't add your own high flow nozzle and I bet that is where the bottleneck will be.
Great review I had a Flashforge 3pro for my 1st printer and loved it but the build volume was really small, I really appreciated the easy swap hot ends! I changed it to an Elegoo N3P and would love to have multi-colour prints. Do you think they will ever think about AMS for these machines?
Someone has to be working on an AMS system. Bambu is killing it right now since they are the only affordable and usable option. But I’m sure creality and PRUSA have something in the works
Someone has to be working on an AMS system. Bambu is killing it right now since they are the only affordable and usable option. But I’m sure creality and PRUSA have something in the works
Love the Adventurer 5M deep dive! 😊 Flashforge AD5M Pro is my go-to, assembly-free and smooth results every time! I mean, who doesn't love swapping nozzles in 3 seconds flat!? 😂 Ever tried it? 🙌 It's a game-changer! 🚀 #FlashforgeFanatic
Are you a real person?
i'd have just drilled a bunch of holes to make a grill instead of cutting the whole thing off lol
probably would have printed a drill guide to make it look nice too.