Athlean-X Proves The Haters Wrong With REAL Weights??
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Athlean-X Fake Weights REDEEMED?
In today's video I'm responding to the recent Jeff Cavaliere deadlift video ("How to Get Big and Strong - JUST DO THIS!") where he shows himself performing a real lift of 425 pounds for a one rep max.
It seems reasonable to assume that this upload is a subtle response to the whole Athlean X "fake weights" controversy that popped up last month.
Just browse the comments section of this latest Athlean X deadlift video and you'll find an endless stream of his supporters applauding him for "silencing the haters" and demonstrating once and for all how strong he really is.
Unfortunately, all it takes is a simple breakdown to see that this video actually does the opposite. All it really does is further cement that fact that all the Jeff Cavaliere fake weights videos were correct and that he lied to his audience about how much he could lift.
In the original Athlean X deadlift video with the fake plates ("How Heavy Should You Lift to Get Big - HOW MUCH WEIGHT!"), he lifts 495 pounds for 2 touch and go reps without a belt and without even putting forth a maximum effort. This would place his one rep max well above 530 pounds or so.
In the latest video, Jeff Cavaliere deadlifts 425 pounds for a single all out rep. In other words, he lifts roughly 100 pounds less than the original fake plates video when all factors are equated.
Not only that, but his deadlift form is atrocious. His lower back is completely rounded over and he performs the lift in the exact opposite way that he typically advises. Just look up any Athlean X deadlift form video and it's clear that he went against his own advice simply to try and impress his audience.
At the end of the day, this latest Jeff Cavaliere deadlift video only makes the whole situation look worse, not to mention that it's flat out dangerous to promote this type of deadlift form to his very large audience.
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We all no that the lift wasn’t proper but dude just give him the win already. We know that his ego was involved in his lifts but let’s not criticize him for everything and just enjoy the fact he went heavy using real weights.
In the words of Ronnie Coleman’ “Time to go to work, ain’t nothing to it but to do it. LIGHT WEIGHT BABBBBYYYYYY.” 😂😂
Dear Sean, I am not a Jeff fan, BUT, I don't see the purpose of your vidéo. Instead of bashing on others, I think you have much better to do like giving valuable contents to your follower.....for example. You are not serving the fitness industry ....
@@kamaldxb1780 The purpose is to expose Jeff's passive aggressive way to try to cop out of this because he knows that his fanboys are dumb enough to think Jeff's last video proves that the weights were real. Simple.
Funny how u say u don’t care bout what Jeff can lift but you made a whole vid to call him out on it and to promote yourself in the end. If he used fake weights ok then he should be honest. But who cares? He has way more credentials than you anyway, a way bigger cliental, and science that backs up his fitness regimens. You shouldn’t look for the slightest flaw in others it brings out your jealousy.
Even if he could do 495lbs for multiple reps, that would never be considered as "elite" level xD That's for his weight class intermediate at best
I think all Jeff had to say was, “Yeah, I used fake weights, because I make these videos everyday, in addition to training everyday. I couldn’t possibly risk using this actual amount of weight.”
no.he can't do 500. not even close
Barry I can do 450 and I'm a softy. 500 doesnt seem unreasonable.
@@shaneflannery6779 agreed, recently pulled 452 for an easy triple, 500 isn’t unreasonable at all, women are pulling that nowadays
@Biochemistry Forever then be honest and don't say you are going to lift 490pounds. a badass doesn't lie about his weights.
Still would be a lousy excuse, but better than pretending he doesn’t use fake weights
It's unfortunate that he felt the need to exaggerate. He's over 40, something like 170lbs, under 6% body fat year round, and can comfortably deadlift about twice his body weight (and a little more, uncomfortably). Not terrible, right? Not worth the embarrassment of using foam weights.
Feel like he’d be a lot stronger if he increased his body fat 3-4 percent
He’s definitely not under 6%
@@callumgill7019 about 7 right?
@@dave93x like 10 dude
@@callumgill7019 bro his face is vascular
After 17 years as a competitive swimmer, I had to quit because of shoulder impingement issues. I am thankful that I stumbled upon Jeff's videos. His attention to the shoulder and the safest way to strengthen them has resulted in me being able to swim once again at 64 years young.
I appreciate Sean as well by getting the straight story on how to build muscle.
I wish we could all get along, afterall, it seems we have a common goal.
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I'm a competitive swimmer too. My shoulders hurt sometimes but it usually goes away.
Plot twist. He used a fake bar this time.
😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Hahaaah
Come on 😂
FIT MIKE after corona
It was a PVC bar with metalic paint
It's a shame; he is a strong, lean guy with a lot of experience and a huge channel...he's made it. He doesn't need to inflate his skills or lifts but he's done that a few times now.
I don't even see why he needs to try the numbers game when it's rather obvious most of his moves are for camera shots. I mean numbers aren't even the point of his channel.
Exactly, i never focus on what is his 1 rip max cause i watch him for the knowledge he has. He was never about power lifting or brag about what he lifts, and i never cared i honestly thought more of him than a lot of the stronger guys
Most of the so called evidence is just pure speculation and opinion. Just as there guys who claim their are UFO's in area 51 all from a few small bits of information that they can cast their opinion on.
it's marketing, and is irrelevant. The only thing you can insult is his technique. He isn't competing or anything like that. People need to stop being so whiny about everything.
@@zephirol4638 If someone pretending to be a self-made millionaire said "I could teach you to be rich, but you need to give me your last $1,000", would you do so knowing that they're not actually rich? This is what's happening in the marketing world, and yes, in fitness marketing as well (albeit by flashing fake weights in the case of the latter).
Honestly, as a viewer, I just wanna learn and workout in a healthy, sustainable and affordable way, and both of you guys taught me so much, Jeff taught me how to lift with proper forms and protect my shoulders, Sean repeatedly illustrated what is truly important for muscle growth and how to avoid fitness industry BS. I have mad respect for both of you. So even if this is a traffic generating thing between you two, please have my views and have my likes because you are both amazing content creators.
Amen!
Great way to view this
Lol, the text to speech part was hilarious. Great video man! A HUGE difference between a snap city 400 lbs deadlift and a 500 lbs proper deadlift. We're talking years of hard and tedious work.
3:45 was the best!
We're talking NEVER for a whole lotta people, no matter how much work they put in!!!
Jeff je snažan iako mu ne idu čučanj i deadlif ali napuhavanjem koliko može dignut samo si je uništio kredibilitet, to mu nije trebalo jer je bio uspješan i bez deadlifta, ljudi bi ga više poštivali da je podigo i manju kilažu.
Istina je da su u današnje vrijeme ljudi opsjednuti izgledom i snagom ali pravi trener ne mora imat 2 metra i 145 kila mišića ili podignut 350kg s poda da bi bio dobar trener i dijelio znanje.
Jeff is a liar and loves fake weights
@@ROTVAJLER83 niko ne voli lazova
It's very sad that Jeff did that. His channel isn't even about his own weightlifting ability, so this makes very little sense.
It was due to his own irrational insecurity. Hopefully, he learns that he doesn't need to feel insecure -- the reality is good enough.
Many others can learn that lesson, too -- and the smartest will learn it when it blows up on other people.
Jeff's is a bro channel. Thats why he has no shirt for marketing reasons. His target demographic are the bros that think they could look like him.
So many experts with all their analysis. Many will also claim that 5G does this and that. Tower 7 this and that. How the US government lies about UFO's.
Or how Joe Rogan is really a CIA agent because of the way the twitches his eyes.
@@wellnesspathforme6236 OR maybe its because he is demonstrating. Fake weight is irrelevant since he isn't doing it as a feat, but to teach people.
You guys are embarrassing.
@@wellnesspathforme6236 or maybe that a gross loss to his brand
As a fan of Jeff I gotta say this was heartbreaking but at the same time eye opening and served as a reminder to do the due diligence on a persons background. Especially with something important like weight lifting/supplementation
I started out with his videos but I learn to take different advices from different RUclips but always take everything with a pinch of salt.
There are some good fitness RUclipsrs out there
This doesn’t hurt Jeff’s reputation to me in the least bit. He has a great physique for his age.
For me, the fact that Jeff doesn’t have any video bashing other channels is a very good example that he is real!
I’m following him for approximately 4-5 years and in all this time I think he has done just one video about another channel (a channel that was copying his content word by word), other than that I haven’t seen another vid to call-out other creators!
P.s. and about supplements, again he doesn’t do pretty much promotion for them! Even now, if you visit his channel and go to playlists he has more videos about eating good than about supplements!
@@moustachio334 for me it's proof that he's willing to go the extra mile to seem better, even if it's not honest.
So basically, he's on tren limfow
Not actually, but I ain't trusting him homie
@@nightshift7538lol there's no logical connection there. Anyone manipulating you can think the same. You know that there are genuinely good people and manipulative good-acting people, right? Both types showcase good acts. You're like saying "his good acts are proof he is real". But there's no logical connection there. You cannot know and conclude logically from that.
I’ve been following #athleanx and Jeff Cavalier for 3 years now. I usually just focus on what he teaches. I don’t care much if he did use fake weights. His programs helped me improve my health and conditioning. I”m in my mid 40s now and because of his programs I was able to do some heavy lifting again as I did in my 20s. 😇
I'm in the same boat. It is sad to see such a good roll model do some of the things he's been doing because his content easily stands on it's own as high value.
Jeff's deadlift tutorial really made learning deadlift difficult. He gave such bad advice. My deadlift tecnique got so much better when I started listening to Alexander Bromley and Resonance Periodization.
@Shady Lad You can breathe in now bud
@Shady Lad I've got some full stops you can borrow ...........................................................................................................................................................................
Just because you can lift heavy with his advice doesn't mean it is the best. Just because bread fills you up doesn't mean you shouldn't eat anything else
Using Athlean-X's critiques AGAINST himself, really made this extra funny.
That is what is ironic, his advice is sound but his demonstration is horrible
@@SantomPh Teachers can make mistakes. I know it’s ironic for him to not make a live video yet decide to release it, but bashing him and making fun with his name is equally stupid.
@@nahiyanalamgir7056 Nah it isnt, you are just a salty fanboy lol
This is greatness. On a side note, seeing him deadlift "for real" hurt my spine just watching the video. He's fortunate his pride didn't get him seriously injured. And you're right, integrity matter, which is precisely why I watch your channel.
He lifted that much weight to prove a point of why deadlift can wreck your body if you're not careful. He knew from the very beginning what that kind of weight was going to do to him. He did this in retaliation to all of the hate comments about how he uses "fake weights." I honestly don't blame him because there's no one on RUclips doing what Jeff does. He deadlifted a weight too heavy for him on purpose, and some people just simply aren't intelligent enough to realize that it was done to make a point. I don't blame Jeff, I'd be pissed too. You can easily infer why he did what he did if you actually watch Jeff's videos on a continuous basis. Sean basically describing Jeff as trying to be a "hardass with bad form" made me sick to my stomach. This video right here is why I probably will never watch his videos ever again. (Sean's) I've pretty well lost all respect for the guy besides his weightlifting content (which is decent, but not as good as Jeff's imho) He should have done more research and put more work into this video basically not bashing Jeff before he just made himself look stupid. I probably sound like a Jeff fanboy, but idc really. I'm honestly just telling it like it is without any bias. I'm glad Jeff made these people look stupid. I hope he keeps doing it, too. Plus, hating on someone with more success from hard work than yourself is pure envy, hate, jealousy, and ignorance. I wouldn't be surprised if some of these Jeff haters are absolute tools outside of the RUclips comment section.
@@georgewashingtoniv8745 You are a Jeff fanboy, and thats ok. Just don't spread your bs here, everyone can see that his form was terrible.
@@nidz3876 You need to learn how to read, I explained that in my comment. You also sound stupid too since Jeff has a lot of followers, but it doesn't make anyone a "fanboy." You sound ignorant because anyone could easily say that about anyone that you're a fan of. You need to learn how to bring better deductive reasoning, logic, and stay on topic if you're going to attempt to try to debate with others. One liners don't cut it. I explained why he had the bad posture, and now unfortunately the burden is on you to show how I'm wrong. Which is impossible since I've already stated the facts. Did you graduate High school?
@@georgewashingtoniv8745 he's talking about progressive gains, or whatever is the word, while showing the footage, how does that "prove a point of why deadlift can wreck your body if you're not careful"? "see guys, you can progressively lift more weight bit by bit, like here" "ooohhh, he's showing me how deadlift can be dangerous", like, what? the copium level is off the charts
@@TBKSSS It has been a while since I've commented on this post. I don't know who you're referring to.
It's so, so weird. He's always been the "leave your ego at the door" guy. I remember when he did a video that advised not wearing a belt so that you could learn how to brace. I remember when he did a video advising people to go double overhand to develop grip strength. I did both of those things and my deadlift got a lot better. Why throw away your legit reputation for an ego lift when the focus of your channel has never been powerlifting?
Money. Big weights = more sales.
All I can say is I've been following a lot of Jeff's workouts and advice for years and it's helped me get much stronger. I haven't found another channel on youtube that has as much helpful content as he does.
Exactly what his videos and channel is for. Not for showboating his strength. For the life of me I don't see how anyone can look at his videos, fake weights or not, and think his intentions are bad.
@@c.l.pitman1760 yep. Exactly.
Haven't looked to hard huh?
@@c.l.pitman1760 he brags about his lifts, the weight he uses lol.
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@@c.l.pitman1760 "not for showboating his strength." He literally lied about how strong he is!
I never paid much attention to the amount of weights Jeff was lifting. I was just there to get advise to unique exercises. Weights or not a lot of his advise was very helpful.
Oh, boy. I can hear Doucette's voice already.
It'll make your ears bleed. Whats with his voice!?
@@rainyday7517 he exaggerates it, he doesn't sound as squeaky normally but maybe the juice made it worse
😂😂😂
Made it
Why? Sean doesn't defend Jeff.
He deadlifted a hair above 400lbs which is a far cry from the 500lbs he claimed for a double, so he didn't prove the "fake weights" theory wrong. If anything, he proved it was right. Also his form is absolutely *atrocious*, he really needs to stop giving novices advice on how to perform the compound movements, he will get people injured. Someone with a following of 10M subs should be more responsible with their power
He clearly does not give a flying f*ck about his subs, just wants to keep them indoctrinated to feed his ego.
Money. It's all about money and he must have taken a significant hit to the pocket book, otherwise he could have continued to ignore his detractors.
@@olympic-gradelurker he's already the biggest fitness RUclipsr or at least among the biggest. He's a millionaire. i don't think it's about money.
It's what he tells people to leave at the door.
Not to mention the fact he loses his grip on the bar on his heaviest single at 3:07.
If you watch it back you see the plates start spinning & his hand gets pulled open, & as he goes to set it back down the bar slips out of his hands. The bit that makes me laugh is the way he throws his arms up as if to imply that he meant to do it! LMAO
All he's actually done is prove conclusively that he absolutely can not & did not lift 500lbs for a double.
as the saying goes...power corrupts lol
I’m just starting to go to the gym, like this guy and from what I concur he provides quick and helpful information. That being said, I appreciate this video because 1. You’re keeping it real 2. Your breakdown showed me to believe nothing I hear and half of what I see, to always double check and the reality of working my butt off with a greater intensity than everyone’s He-Man seems to be using to lift ungodly weight in his videos.
Im with the 99% of people that dont care or even analyse the plates in jeffs videos and who actually just tune in to listen to his advice and understand his technique
What is with that profile pic? I keep seeing it everywhere.
Agreed, this is dumb. Some dude at the gym today cared and told me Jeff used fake weights, I asked how that affects my lifting? He had nothing more to say about that topic, because he knows I’m not using fake weights and I don’t care about what anyone else lifts. I’m at the gym for ME, and to get stronger. Imagine making entire videos about this as if it’s not living rent free in their head 😂
Jeff cavaliere makes so damn good physical therapy advice. Same with Sean actually probably saved my wrist by his wrist curls vid.
If you guys want actual good lifting advice and technique, Alan Thrall is the way to go, plus he doesn't use fake weights
@@moneybitches4796 I doesn't affect your lifting , but to novices who don't know any better , yeah it is gonna affect their lifting .
I couldn't care less what his pb's are, Jeff's general advice and tips have helped me obtain my goals and gains and he is fun to watch so for me that's all that matters
@Ricardo DeMatteo no that is exactly my point whatever your opinion of the man matters not to me, his videos and info have helped me, end of story.
@@randomperson7928 focus on your own life and goals, stop worrying about everybody else and don't ever wake me up at 4.30am again...
@@randomperson7928 listen the man wouldn't be where he is today if he didn't know what he's doing, again focus on your own life wether its doing a 385lb deadlift or having a nice game of golf...whatever makes you a happy little chappy
@@brendoj5072 you said “focus on your own life”, but you kept replying LMAO, why are you so focused on another person? Lol. I see why you take Jeff’s mediocre advices because you don’t even take your own LOL.
@@nuzabe9054 oof checkmate lmfao
This is my favorite video you have posted yet. You made some great points and you were still talking with respect.
I never really went to Jeff to see how much he lifted or cared I just went for the knowledge he has as a PT/Sports trainer . I hate the fact that it came to this but right is only right being truthful doesn’t hurt your reputation especially when most of the industry respects you for your expertise and not your strength .
He sells strength programs...
This struck me the most.
He blatantly chose money over integrity and safety of his audience even if he is more about form and all which he threw away this time for some reason...
53Memati53 you do know that he was a trainer for the New York Mets and is a personal trainer and Pt right how would selling programs to get others stronger be odd to you. Just wondering ...
@@dsp5328 too much pride to adress mistake
Too vain to do a 425 deadlift as an "answer" to the issue 🤷🏽♂️
Paul John Agustin I won’t judge another man on his pride or anything I just know I really don’t care about the whole issue I just want people to live past this there’s way more important things than a fake 425 deadlift . If it’s true or not I honestly don’t care it doesn’t effect me the slightest but I would appreciate his honesty just to end people being obsessed with it.
@@dsp5328 fair enough.
That google search at 1:47 had me rolling.
I died😂💀
i fucking died when he mentioned castleberry ... yep the Dinkleberry effect
Watching Jeff's haters is killing your gains
Not using critical thinking just because you're someones fan is killing your brain
@@rantnhnaketon missed the joke…
So he lifts 420 pounds once with a belt to prove he could lift 490 without belts easily twice?
@wade wilson That's a poor defence dude.
Well he's not as strong as he used to be.
You nailed it!
@@limitisillusion7 I have a bridge to sell you dude.
@@carlisroy6666 does it go south? If it goes to a warmer climate I'm sold.
I laughed so hard at the cat scream 😂😂😂 caught me off guard
My Norwegian Forest cat freaked out at that!!! Laugh oh boy!!
My dog growled, for real
It was not appropriate
I'll admit that was funny.
Lol it freaked my cat
As a huge Fan of Jeff I just gotta say that this video is fair and on point. Your breakdown was solid!
Jeff is a charlatan
All I can say is WOW! Did he not review it to see if his form was correct? I thought that was what editing was about.
You think he edit his own video. All these popular youtube channels has a whole company running for them. From professional camera men to editors to accounting to marketing etc.
@@mysteriousbluehat2035 Wasn't Jesse doing that? He was adding new intros!
Or he realized that lift is the best form he had in him and just went with it hoping for the best
Gotta struggle to deadlift 400lbs with poor form to prove the haters wrong, right babe?
@Merlin’s Apprentice You had me fooled for a bit.
Lol
The Frenchman is no snake.
I’m new to lifting weights and was watching quite a bit of Jeff’s videos on technique. It wasn’t until I discovered your Channel that I found This whole thing out. It really saddened me and I felt stupid and betrayed that I was basically fooled by a snake oil merchant. It totally made me second-guess everything that I had learnt from jeffs channel. My trust was broken. I doubted all of my workout techniques and I had to rethink how I was going about training. Really really taught me a lesson that I need to get my information from multiple sources. I see it as a blessing in disguise I guess, and now I feel safe in the gym again. I am just really lucky that I never hurt myself trusting in jeff. So I thank you Sean for all of your valuable fitness info!!!
He sacrificed form to get that 1 rep max, but his videos are spot on. He is no snake oil merchant.
His form reminded me of Peter Griffin: "Okay Chris. Now when we lift this fridge. Take all of your legs out of it and use only your lower back."
"You don't need a jack. I am a jack! The key here is to put all of the weight into your groin and lower back. Take your legs completely out of the equation."
@@fredericouno4414 "In a quick jerking motion."
Lift with a quick twisting, jerking motion.
Please tell me what episode that is lmao
@@Necronaut what episode is this please tell me
Thank you, Sean. I love how you're so dry and savage in your humour, but also provide great informational content and honesty. Your videos are fucking great.
Thank you! 💪🏻
Agreed. New subscriber here but wished I subbed much earlier
Jeff:- Deadlift is killing your gains.
Also Jeff:- proceeds to curl his back into a ball.
Loved the text-to-speech at 3:25-3:50
The final one with the spanish voice was just gold
Laughed so hard at that part😂
Laughed my ass off when the Bloodsport clip came in
Such a good movie, haha
That was a real fight...just like Jeff's weights..
Bloodsport is awesome, subscribed.
I agree fully. Bad form, Rounded back, Fake weights..... why. Other influencers have also called him out!
And also why would he be using different plates like who has 2 different types of plates other than people who use fake weights to make them look cooler
Please Jeff, just use real weights. Those who need to see large "poundages" are not your audience.
let also talk about how slow 425 came off the ground compared to "495" and how he dropped it at the top. Him trying to "prove he could do it", only served to prove he was bullshitting.
@@kelleysauer1693 he's really doing a great disservice to his audience if that's how they think deadlifts should be preformed.
My guess is he had those fake weights to simply make instructional videos easier on himself and not to turn shooting into a workout. Plus, if he was just curling a bar, it wouldn't look as good as having big plates on it. However, I think his ego may have gotten the better of him he decided to say "I can deadlift 500lbs" etc. Strange, but he's human and being a human we all make mistakes and learn from them. In my opinion Athlean x is still an amazing channel and I've gotten a shit lot out of it. Sean's channel is super too. Where does Jeff go from here? As Sean says, "he seems smart", he is, and therefore he'll learn from his mistake @karma. Anyway, safe training guys!
Actually, many GYMs have nore than one type of plate.
Two years ago I started my weight lifting journey. I'm now 47 years old. There were so much advice out there that it was confusing. Much of it was contradictory and unorganized. I finally had to make a choice as to who's advice to take above all else. I chose Sean because he came off as the most genuine. Discerning friends and authorities on the basis of honesty has served me so well over the years. Once again Sean has tought me things I didn't know. I have had great results and I have never even been close to getting injured (as far as I can tell). I appreciate Sean's incredible teaching skill. Thank you so much!
Glad my advice has helped!
That deadlift fail video, though … that literally took my breath away. My back hurts from just watching that 😬😬
Jeff should show us his 315 amrap on the bench now.
I guarantee 245 is his max
Young Kwak I think he could probably do more than 245. I did 325lbs when I was 145 lbs and got third place in a bench press competition. I would have gotten 2nd place but I was competing with a guy in my weight class with an amputated leg. So his upper body was much stronger than mine, but his weight was the same because he was missing his entire leg.
@@GilaMonster971 you have good genetics i can guarantee jeff cant do more than 245
Young Kwak we should start a petition to see his one rep max. But I want to see him weigh the plates 😂
Young Kwak I’d say he could do a lil more.
I am a follower of Jeff Cavaliere and Sean Nalewanyj, and I appreciate how both contribute much-needed science, seriousness, and accuracy to the world of weight-training and physical fitness (including lifestyle, nutrition, and more). I find it unfortunate that Cavaliere used fake weights and wish he had not done that, and after he did it I wish he had posted an explanatory video admitting he made the mistake so we could all move on. But this mistake does not lessen the value of Jeff's overall approach to weight-training, his profound understanding of anatomy and the kinetic chain, his logical and proven attitude about exercise techniques, and his sound advice about nutrition. What it shows is that Jeff -- for whatever reason -- wanted in that video for his deadlift to appear heavier, which showed a moment of bad judgement! But I'll tell you, I've been following Jeff's concepts for 3 years and have seen undeniable progress in my exercise results. I've also seen Jeff's techniques prove themselves in pain management. I say all this just based on Jeff's free content -- without purchasing a single Athlean-X product or training program. In other words, Jeff's knowledge and skills and what he has to offer is extremely valuable, but he made a mistake in one of his videos that I hope he does not repeat!
I think Sean is correct to point out Jeff's bad decisions. But let's judge that bad decision for what it is, and not make more out of it than it deserves.
The guy making this video is missing the whole point! I'm so tired of everybody trying to get people to click on their video by talking about Jeff. Just do your own good content.
Yes Jeff has used fake weights! It's not to prove a point or try and show how much he can lift. He uploads videos every single day showing people tips and tricks. They are probably often not exercises he was going to do in his regular training program that day. So he uses a fake weight similar to what he can do...big deal. He's a very big proponent of not over training so this goes right along with what that.
@@brandonnegley7432 I wonder how it's possible to be so delusional and blind. Seriously. Over 100 pounds lighter than the original video for a single rep max is way too much to be considered over-training prevention. Why the fuck would he upload a lift on a day that he's tired doing such "low" weight in comparison after all of this controversy? He simply cannot do that much weight.
It's especially sad because the people defending him very clearly must just not know what these lifts done properly with high weight look like. Anyone who knows what they're doing and has built a respectable physique for themselves can see what he did in that video was horrendous form with heavy weight and was incredibly dangerous.
@@brandonnegley7432 yeah, but he has to tell us that. Just like he should tell us he is using steroids because he is. They all do. I think this Sean does too. They all fakers. And to OP, if you take any weight lifting seriously, you will improve. Body building isn’t complicated. Need like just 5 exercises. The rest is just a version of them.
@@TheBooban Why are you so certain he is on steroids?
@TheBooban ...Crickets.
See, this is why I love Sean. He doesn't only ever critique, but praises people who are good. Massive respect
Jeff Castlebe.. Cavalier 😂
lmao
Good one
😂😂😂
The tale of the Jeffs
I dont get it. New to the HS drama that is youtube fitness. Who's Castleberry
Sean is like a fitness robot, extremely calculated
That doesn't always workout, I mean I have an intelligent friend who took all research about bodybuilding and then started bodybuilding, we all thought he is gonna bigger than all of us in no time, and you know being over calculative he is so much smaller than us, and he had gone to gym more than us, he took calories intake by calculating always , he had done more expensive things than us in bodybuilding, say it like protein powders, expensive natural diets, because he is over calculative, and in result he is smaller than all of us, can you believe he did basic for 3 months, same 10 exercises daily for 3 months and then thinking why i am not getting bigger
I also used to do that type of thing, doing research, being calculative, and initially yes it helped me, but i mostly searched new type of exercises because when I think this exercise isn't affecting me anymore, I get bored and search new type of exercise, and yes athlean x helped me with how different muscles are how there are 3 heads in triceps , 2 heads in biceps, so yeah he helped me with exercises, my nutrition was just normal food, 2-3 eggs daily, and just enough sleep, I was 17 then
Then after sometime I realised I didn't need any more fitness advices i knew what to do, resistance training, do all exercises,try to hit all muscles and you will get bigger, always try to do new exercises, you can even invent one, get enough sleep and have good nutrition ,it's just enough, and it changed my life , for a lot of the time I thought bodybuilding is hard, but it's very easy and simple though and I wished I would have learned it sooner,
@@Realtalk2389 instead of typing an entire essay and being an аsshole you could've just said your friend isn't smart and no matter how much fitness content he watches he can't actually put his knowledge into physical form in the gym.
Whatever u do, the main difference between all of you vs him is... dog barks, but man doesn't bark.
The fact is he lied and this proves it even further and honestly I dont care what he can deadlift as well but he still lied. That's the bottom line. His 425 looks way harder than the 495.
maybe because the 495 was 5 years ago and maybe he doesn't train deadlifts anymore?
@@sunnysideup5826 could be.
Tamtam Micabalo yeah big difference, 425, 1 rep with a belt looked way more difficult then 5 with 495.
@Alfredo Duro How do you know Jeff has been working on DL's lately? Tell us
@Alfredo Duro Ok, now watch the video, with audio on. In that video, he claims that at 4 plates, he "starts to have some issues", "back isnt staying exactly in the position (he) wants". Says he just has command of the weight and it'll just be a passing grade. At "near 500lbs", he's "*not* mastering it the way he should" and he doesnt feel comfortable doing the weights. The weights "arent benefiting (him) necessarily." He makes compensation within his kinetic chain. And he might get injured doing it.
The point of the video was actually to tell people, at heavier weights, you'll experience form-breakdown and you should lower the weight. The point of the video wasnt to show how strong he is.
Did he use fake weights to try to illustrate the point that his form was breaking down? Not well, clearly, cause people seem to think the opposite. Was he justified to use fake weights? For the purposes, yeah. He's trying to tell people at near max, your form might breakdown to the point you get injured. Do you really need him to lift the actual weight, just to prove himself right, ie, get injured on camera doing weights he himself claims he has no control over?
when you showed his “dont do side” by side with his Deadlift, it was just hilarious😅😂
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@@geoffrey6000 I just ruined it.
@@godcomplex1929 i am disappointed in you.
Hmm quite revealing. Although Sean, prior to making this video did you try contacting Jeff privately to tell him what he's doing is wrong, and that someone with his popularity shouldn't be using fake weights ?
This actually hurts.
Jeff's been my gold standard of fitness info. Someone I've meassured everything else against, because in all honesty I know fuck all.
My main reason is that I've had 0 injuries since I started following his advise as well as the strength gains. However the shit in this video showcase stuff I just cannot ignore. It's like Jeff vs. Jeff. Why the fuck couldn't you just apologize, man? I never went to his channel to look like a powerlifter, I just wanted to get in shape.
You were supposed to destroy the fake nattys, not join them.
Fuck sake.
u guyz are acting like he killed someone.Dude just chill out and keep watching him u don't have to talk stuff just cause the whole community is saying it.At the end Jeff is still the best fitness RUclipsr.And it's not even like someone got hurt.Also I feel like Scott hermans false facts are worse than jeffs fake weights cause people actually used those for a while.Scott at the end just apologized and it's over like nothing so Idk why people talk so much whack.
@@gamingattire9390 He's over rated. Ive done some of his programs, horrible for skinny dudes. He's got a lot of knowledge, but his tips aren't very functional. He gives good advice relating to injuries, form, etc But if you want to put on mass or gain strength there definitely better fitness youtubers out there.
@@travistarp7466 like who? I just got into lifting and Cavalier was the first guy i thought seemed legit. Now with all this bullshit I'm like, fuck all of RUclips im just gonna stick to rippetoe's starting strength
@@marksullivan5731 Just look for people with ur body type that has had success and is natty. Cavalier is good when it comes to form and injury prevention like i said. If you're new just learn compound lifts like squat, deadlift, bench. Gain some strength until you plateau, then find a more complicated program.
@@travistarp7466 Hard gainer here. I think part of this equation is learning how to use nutrition to support more mitochondria. While this ultimately can be a very complex jog down biochemistry lane, for most people this means more magnesium, retinol, copper, and eliminating processed foods, especially inorganic iron filing fortified "foods."
On a practical basis, this means eating an average of 1-2 ounces of pasteured liver a day for the bio-copper (and lots of other nutrition -- best overall "supplement" there is, IMHO), magnesium malate supplements (250 ct. Nature's Life is a good value), epsom salt (magnesium sulfate) baths and/or magnesium chloride foot soaks for magnesium, and Straus or raw whole cream (ingested away from high glycemic meals), sardines, and/or Rosita's Cod Liver Oil for retinol. Other than that, eat lots of real nutrient dense food and avoid pesticides and other toxins. If you want to eat bread, Ezekiel sprouted bread is a good bet. I have a friend who is gluten intolerant, but he can ingest Ezekiel bread just fine. Give up that processed cereal with tons of iron filings added to it, though.
Iron in Cereal Video -- ruclips.net/video/HGbwFtmJOi4/видео.html
Iron behaving badly: iron as contributor to inflammatory and degenerative diseases -- bmcmedgenomics.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1755-8794-2-2
Summary of Rogue Iron Accumulation in the Human Body -- veritascontent.blob.core.windows.net/audio/YTC_Archive/ytc010719-MorleyRobbins.mp3
Morley Robbins - My Theory Of Everything -- ruclips.net/video/Iq94ROB5qEs/видео.html
That was a brutal critique of Jeff’s form. Good points. Great vid!
I have learned a lot from Jeff,I have learned almost nothing from you,I don't care if he used fake weights,his body looks fantastic and the exercises he teaches how to do actually work.
i was pretty much going to comment the same thing. When my son got into lifting weights at 19yrs old and I restarted after some big surgeries we have both gained strength and size. He gained initial and I regained what was lost over 2 years.
Quite honestly I don't care if he uses fake weights, atleast it's not BS info like most of these other guys just trying to sale something. I've searched thru a lot of Sean's stuff and found nothing that helps me. Like most of them he's just feeding off of all the things that most people already know about and gets a lot of likes/follows.
Funny too how Jeff has professional athletes who are already very strong who come to him for additional knowledge and training.
Did anyone else catch when he was “ordering” the fake weights he first typed “Castleber-(ry)” before fixing it to cavalier😂😂
Yep, he 'accidentally' said it like that earlier in the video too at 1:02
Yeah, ”haha”
Lol yea. He’s salty.
Drama queen
Poor Jeff was pissed that he had to record a video of himself using real weights but still less than 495? Bravo, Jeff, bravo.
It's a shame to see all this drama around him, he genuinely gives good advice
Narh bra… 80% good advice 20% b/s
Half of his videos are bs tho
a very good chunk of his video is useless or even dangerous advice
7:16 Snaplean-X.🥁
[crickets]
Is this thing on?
Your videos are getting better and better. I laughed so hard at the cat sound. Great and entertaining feedback.
Thanks Luis
forgot about this video. came up on my timeline again today. defo one of your most comedy vid. miss your content Sean. Castlebear Over and Out!
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Jeff has been prepping for a month tweaking his HRT dose to get ready for this video. Can’t wait to see his skull crusher one rep max video.
👆🏽. 👍🏽
What's hrt
@@hogrideeeeer Hormone replacement therapy, TRT testosterone replacement therapy, testosterone shots etc.
@@citizen762 ah right thanks
From text to speech to google search to bloodsport clip you were savage. I wish you tube had more fitness experts like you.
I think that the message here is just stick to what you know and what you can do. If you are already one of the top teachers/advisors in a field, don't exaggerate. It isn't helpful. All the other stuff said in his defense is meaningless. Stick to the truth and give people good advise. Get people to use good form and be healthy. Tell people how to perform these exercises to maximize gains and avoid injury. Exaggeration is a good way to promote injury. That doesn't help anyone.
I reckon he's been training really hard to get that lift when the controversy went viral lol I doubt we will be seeing the Ronnie coleman style heavy skull crushers anytime soon.
Tbh, if each RUclipsr used real weights each time they try to make a video, their form wouldnt be perfect and since most of his videos are instructional as opposed to showing his audience how much he can really lift, it really doesn't bother me. I've used Jeff's program and it works
Watch renniasance Periodization technique videos. They have jacked people using tiny weights or empty bars. They are already jacked so they dont need to prove their strength
His form in his deadlift was great eh? They just broke it down with his own words in his own video... credibility damaged.
@@randomperson7928 dude if you are just a child who looking for any mistake in people to boost your little ego without understanding what happened then that is your problem . He dosent have to waste his time saying that he lift fake weights for educational reasons because that is stupid so don't look for troubles . He lift real weights sometimes and that is it . His body and advice are real if you are looking for problems that dosent make sense and don't have enough intelligence to know what is credible and what is not. Then that is your problem his credibility didn't get hurt the slightest. Even if you don't like it . Now accuse me of being a bot to feel good about yourself
If he always used real weights not only would he get tired and probably breath heavily during his videos, he wouldnt want to train when he is filming as he would have a schedule and plan and the exercises may not fit it, i think it makes sense to use fake weights
Biceps flexing, back completely rounded, knees locked straight before leaving the ground. 10/10
I like when he said “using fake weights is ok for a demonstration if you can lift the weights”.
Right
yea and i'm sure jeff can lift them weights
Also, if it's a demonstration, why not just put less real weights on it? What fucking nonsense.
@@patrickkirkby102 technique plates (aka very light weight but correct size) are a thing in weightlifting so people can get the form and technique right before actually adding real weight; powerlifting is naturally full of ego and doesn't have these.
Jeff should not have done the lift in the first place, not only did he make himself look stupid but also in front of a whole host of powerlifting YTers and gymbros who only ever do 3 lifts in the gym- fed himself to the one toothed shark.
@@SantomPh Fair enough, but I'm curious why they need to be the same size anyway (aside from having the bar at the right height from the floor) However, I do agree with you.
Best part is how this guy is a direct competitor to the Athene x. This guy is gritting extra hard to take those precious views.
3:12 best video edit I've seen all year!
I’m glad you mentioned the bad DL cuz I noticed that immediately! I guess he was so desperate to lift that weight that he was willing to sacrifice form in an all out effort
Thanks for being a transparent and dependable source, Sean! Subscribed.
The damn cat sound got me crying 😭 😂
Also, in one of his videos, he advised the people to refrain from using the weight belt. Jeez!!
Bottom line. His lean muscle mass is way better than all other RUclipsrs. So I’d take his advice more so than others who, may be knowledgeable but have no body to show the work.
All of us sitting with 🍿🍿🍿 waiting for Sean's epic reply. I didn't expect a second half but here we are...
I started lifting around 3 years ago and Jeff was one of the first channels I came across. By noting what Jeff has had to say over the last 3 years I have DEFINITELY avoided injuring myself, and for that I am grateful. The whole fake weights busy is very sad, and unnecessary. Scott Herman gave plenty of reasons why you use lighter weights when demonstrating including multiple retakes, so Jeff could have easily done the same. So Jeff made a big mistake, so what? Have you never made a big mistake that you regretted afterwards? I've made plenty. Although what Jeff did was wrong, I am not so stupid as to disregard his overall excellent advice, and hopefully I will continue to train injury free.
All Jeff should have done was publicly admit he made a mistake. Now he only makes it more pathetic for himself.
Respect for your dive for honesty and quality information.
Great Breakdown Sean!!! Also I like how Sean started Typing Castleberry as the last name initially 😂😂😂😂
Sean STOP! Jeff's dead already, just stoooop! 😂
Oh I love this vid so much ,it's like a Diss track about his entire pretence career
This vid had some nice touches. The Jeff Castleberry typing thing was legit funny. 👏
As always, the voice of reason has spoken. #teamNalewanyj ✊🏼
I used to watch that guy, stopped and now after watching this video I’m 100% subscribing to Sean
That Eastern European text-to-speech 😭😭😭😭 I almost peed myself!
I started my rabbit hole by watching a penn state running back power clean. Two hours later I find out Jeff lied about how much he can lift. idk what to believe anymore
I really appreciate you, Sean
I would say, good analysis. His form. The stressful look from the lower weight. And yes, I wonder why? Well the drive keep and get subscribers I'm sure is strong for a whole lot of You Tubers. Still, I also don't two shits how strong Jeff is, or Sean for that matter, or Scott Herman, or whoever. Give good advice. Be responsive to possible critiques. Never stop learning, and trying to do better. Thanks.
Want more views? I know, criticize someone with high views. Problem solved! You don't need to prove anything! Brilliant!
Want to get injured and crippled for life? Follow guys like Jeff.
@@24fanste What exercise or technique do you disapprove of?
Jeff lives rent free in this guy's head. Wow!
Bruh your trolling is top tier esp the text to speech segments
😂
Bro how do you start a video saying you don’t care and then create a whole 10 min video on the topic
Thanks for this tip-off. I’m a novice and getting back into working out. I’ll be a lot more careful about who I listen to, and how I build my workout routine. I appreciate the thoughtful way you presented this.
This was an amazingly informative and entertaining video! Way to go dude.. Wish more of the RUclips Fitness community was this honest
Oh man, this was like infinite elgintensity levels of debunking and trolling. Bruh you rekt athlean x on this one.
Until you realise Elgin actually likes Athlean-X & has given him props in the past. 😬
@@blackphoenix8932 hence why he didn't say shit.
@@blackphoenix8932 _In the past_ Elgin actually said he wasn't too familiar but with the small amount he saw he thought he was a legit credible source. I used to trust Athlean - X in the sense that I thought he really cared more about his passion towards fitness than selling a product. After this nonsense, I'm second guessing Jeff, it's to the point that I honestly don't even think he's natty at all. Sean was 100% correct on why lying to your fanbase is very harmful.
I watched Jeff a lot years ago when I was just starting my lifting journey after high school. A lot of the knowledge he gives helped me build a foundation to my overall strength. But over the years as I learned more and more, I see his channel turning into what I see a lot of fitness influencers doing, which is recommending some weird variations of basic exercises to draw in clicks. He’s a smart dude who’s been around for a while, but I think he’s falling off. And I don’t understand the fake weights thing either.
Bingo.
You’ve gotta also remember he’s a physical therapist, so those weird variations would probably work; doesn’t matter if it’s for clicks the dude runs a program
@@peterk.2108 i mean some things he says like the waiter curl and the hex press do no additional benefits to those muscle groups and only take away potential stimulus since in the hex press you dont get as much ROM compared to free dumbbell bench and for the waiter curl, you're limited by your ability to maintain "neutral" wrists
"That's piss poor form"-- Jeff Cavalier.
Wow.
Sean, my favorite fitness guy on youtube.
Same!
One of my favorites too
Facts 👏
Thanks man
Respect!
Hi Sean
Your so so right it what you say , plus he's on a fast trip to A+E , please keep up the great work I look forward to seeing more videos🙏
What a drama queens... It's funny too every channel talking about it
He's so proud of himself for lifting 80% of what he originally claimed with a belt and dropping the bar like a child.
Yeah you realize the fact to hit a max you have to peak first which can take up to 6 months and can’t be done on the spot
Gez Sherlock
But somehow he was able to do it on the spot just for a video demonstration the first time he lifted his fake 495
@@davidbourke4701 ^what he said. Not to mention he's obviously been training hard the last few months in order to hit that 80%
Gotta bring on him that dude who assaults young boys for dropping the bar on deadlifts.
@@leetaipe Can you kick me in the bollox again so as to avoid testicular imbalance.
8:10 the pop sent shivers down my spine. I'm still VERY new to the gym but ain't no way I'm deadlifting man.