Absolutely. It pushes me to get out more and travel more and I take pictures to relive those memories. I feel like if I cared about what people thought of my photos or if I tried to monetize it/do it for a job, I’d hate it. So I stick to having fun, taking pictures and enjoying life.
To monetize it you'd have to be good at sales and marketing/advertising. To me those things are painful so like you I just do it for the enjoyment of the process.
I do the same. If someone else appreciates the photo- great! But I am not making photos for someone else’s acceptance. That would be more like a job. I am retired and no longer want to work for someone else.
i did it "professionally" for abit, the most I ever hated photography while also shooting a lot less then ppl realize because you are spending all your time on sales/advertising/edits to customers liking trying to sell yourself.. Gone back to just a hobby that MAY pay on occasion and it made me fall back inlove with photography to a degree. I like to just go out and shoot and maybe once a year ill edit a few of my pictures and thats it.
I'm the same, I never share any photos on social media. I print the ones I like the most and maybe show to my family and friends and display it on our walls.
Being an amateur photographer, I've never cared if anyone liked my photos. I've never done photography to please anyone other than myself. And apparently I'm easy to please.
keep it that way! going "professional" will suck the love of photography out of you. Also you shoot a lot less when you go pro because u spend so much time circle building ad/sales/editing/networking.
I’m a photographer with a flying camera. I enjoy sharing my photos. I don’t share looking for positive feedback. I share because of the amazing community of other creators I’ve connected with around the world. I dislike Facebook. I love RUclips. Every creator just needs to find the platform that works for them. The global reach & potential of social media is staggering. And at zero cost. I’m blown away by it.
To me, I don't care if anyone cares. That's a bonus. I do photography because I enjoy photography. If it was the other way around, I'd feel like I was doing it for the wrong reasons.
"no replacement for displacement" is the old "bigger motor = more power" saying. It's still sorta true, but turbos and electric motors are making it untrue now haha. I love when Chris confuses people saying stuff I get lol. Not sure if that's a good or bad thing.
Yeah idk. Have owned I think 60+ vehicles in my life. Turbos are no replacement for displacement. They have an efficiency curve that doesn't really rival naturally aspirated displacement. The engines don't drive the same way. EV? Emotionless fleshlights with wheels that only appeal to people who have gaslit themselves into thinking they make the weather happy. Instant torque isn't the be all end all. Ty for coming to my Ted talk.
I'm not famous nor do I have a monetized channel. I rarely sell photos and make calendars every year to give to friends and family. I don't think many people care. However, I love to go out in the fields and forests and capture images of nature and wildlife. Even if zero people cared I would still do it. I try to set a lofty goal for my photography to build awareness of the beautiful creatures and plants that surround us. I want everyone looking at my photographs to have a better appreciation of the beauty that surrounds us every day.
I think you hit the nail on the head when you said that some people were just upset you didn't validate their purchase. It is a common cognitive bias, and I see why they would feel that way, especially if they admire you. What strikes me odd, however, is that we're talking about the Nikon Z8 here - a $4000 camera that would generally be purchased by professional photographers, and somehow I doubt that they would go vent their frustration in the comments under your video. Therefore, we come to the conclusion that it's probably just good old Internet users throwing hissy fits for attention or trolling :)
Seems that I have done so for nearly 20 years. I mostly do nature photography because I enjoy being in nature and I really enjoy capturing interesting moments of birds and animals. I don't get much traction on most of the social platforms (I used to have some on Flickr and googles platform). I would love to get my stuff out there more but this is just barely more than a hobby for me as I have to work a boring job as well. I am a bit of a tech nerd so I also enjoy using the technology and exploring new (and old) ways of capturing an image so much like building a computer instead of buying one I enjoy the process as well as the product.
34:37 Been doing it pretty steadily for 16 years. See no signs of slowing down at this point. I realize that there are some people who appreciate what I do, but I've never lost sleep on an upload getting next to no attention. I shoot for me, and maybe a client, and that's it. That social media validation has never really affected my work.
Yes I would still take pictures. Chris brought up a valid point in that art photography can be a mental heath process. But this applies to any creative process, be it music, craftsmanship, or even exploration that requires creativity to deal with the challenges of said exploration. I often combine exploration with my landscape photography, and I even recently added in a new challenge by doing some exploration on a dual purpose motorcycle. It’s these challenges while being creative in finding the right camera placement, composition, exposure, ext., that give me personal pleasure and mental release. Whether it be bringing one of my old 4x5 view camera’s shooting film, to using one of my digital Nikon or Fuji systems. Though I have noticed that I don’t get this feeling taking pictures with my IPhone, it just is too easy so does not offer enough of a mental challenge which I think is necessary for me to feel a sense of accomplishment in creating an image. This all said, recognition is nice, but not necessary for me to capture images.
Most of my photos were taken to capture or document moments/events of my life. For example, i will take lots of photo when my family members gather around to make bak chang or to celebrate festivals/birthdays. As years past by, i can always look back at those photos to remember the food, recipe, who came, the smiles, the clothes and etc.. Therefore, i don't really care if others are interested in the photos or not. I will use a better camera instead of mobile camera as most events are happening at night and i need a higher quality photos to see their pimples, texture of the food and etc..
I'm pretty much exactly the same! I look back over my photos and remember all the great stuff I've been able to do. They give me pleasure and I doubt anyone (other than perhaps close friends or family) even know I take photos.
Love Chris’ typewriter. I get very little traction with my photos and that only bothers me when I see people who post nothing but AI garbage get thousands of views. I like what I share and do this for myself and possible legacy (laughing stock, jeering, etc.).
It was nice to get a candid peek behind the curtain. I couldn’t always place it when watching the old channel but thinking back to DPRTV, Chris did seem to exude more passion for fishing than photography. I guess that feeling wasn’t coming from nothing. I’m happy y’all are finding more joy at PetaPixel. Jaron, I’ve noticed what seems like a general increase in the proportion of photography centric content on PetaPixel and I’ve found myself checking the site more often because of that. It would still be nice to never again see an article referencing something irrelevant that the Kardashians are doing. “Kim brings lighting setup to DMV for driver’s license photo,” for example, is a journalistic low point and I’d hope PetaPixel generally wants to aim higher than that. But overall I am enjoying this podcast, am enjoying Chris and Jordan’s shenanigans, am enjoying reading PetaPixel’s photography content, and am grateful that the podcast has chapters so that I can easily skip the overly long shill segment at the beginning each week. Not pulling any punches here: getting paid by a camera brand to talk about how great it’s products are is the textbook definition of shilling. It’s funny watching the brand-fans accuse you all of various levels of shilling for this brand or that brand, while simultaneously ignoring the thing that disproves their specific accusations while providing proof positive of the spirit behind those accusations. I know the OMDS money must be good, but I really do believe the degree of separation provided by a Squarespace or a Storyblocks-esque sponsor would be an overall benefit.
14:46 - There have been times when I had to put my cameras in zip-lock bags and stick them in my portable, DC, compressor fridge (the kind you buy for camper vans) to cool off. You don't leave them in long enough to get cold enough to form condensation when you take them out. But it definitely cuts down on cool-off time.
I agree with multiple comments below. I am an amateur photographer. People do like my pictures, if they are in them. But honestly as long as I like them I am happy. I post more pictures in my smugmug gallery than could appeal to any single person.
Thanks for another great podcast! It is enjoyable and informative..I can sit through the entirety and not even be aware of the amount of time spent its that enjoyable.
Chris's very well thought out and expressed comments about the art and philosophy of photography are in some ways profound and should be written down. I hope Chris writes a book one day about photography. With illustrations obviously.
Best thing to happen in my life after the threat of loosing DP review is this podcast. It's certainly a better podcast with Jaron, he's adorable. I think you should invite unseen photographer's on the show and in the discussion. I used to like T&C's podcast where they'd review peoples pics. Jared used to do it too but IMO was a bit critical - don't need negativity "on the air" that could be done behind closed doors or buy the fledgling photographer a class. Anyway, I digress - personally I don't give a flying F if anyone sees my stuff. I just love the gear, the need to pause to record a scene, and the way I look at everything trying to find compositions and light - don't need someone else to make me feel good about it - now it would be nice to make enough to buy equipment. Would love that OM1 for example! LOL
I agree with most of this reply however Jared giving a more critical photo critique is exactly what people need, first if you send it to him you should already know he's giving it to you straight and most importantly almost everyone gets a bunch of likes, thumbs up etc and that will not help a photographer grow and get to the next level. Take every critique with an understanding that's one person's opinion.
Having people see your work is important from a business perspective, but it doesn't make a huge difference on a personal level. I have very few followers and not very many people see my work, but I never stop. I currently make a living with my work, but it is difficult when your work isn't being seen by others. My drive to take photos is not for fame, but for the challenge of finding those spectacular moments. I only have 400 followers on instagram and 132 subscribers on RUclips, but I just keep creating no matter what!
Thank goodness for these podcasts on a Wednesday to keep me going through boring afternoons at work... To answer the title question, while I enjoy showing my photos to others, I take them primarily for myself. I enjoy looking back through old albums at photos and videos, reminding myself of times gone by. I think I'd remember far less, and particularly far fewer of the minor details of my life, were it not for photography. Agreed on not needing super blurry backgrounds in wildlife photography - half the story of an animal is the environment you find it in. A wildlife portrait without context can be pretty, but could also have been taken in a zoo.
When this video I was struck by the obvious example of Vivian Maier: someone who took a lifetime of photographs and was not recognized during her life - and I appreciated the recognition of her in the discussion. Her works were discovered only after her life ended in photographic obscurity - and during her life there was no real suggestion that she would ever be recognized and appreciated. While she had some correspondence with a French postcard maker to provide some images, it seems she did not pursue the issue. As you say, it was clear that she practised photography for reasons other than recognition. I get the sense that she took pride in her work, but that joy was not based on appreciation from others. However, there are many noted photographers who left behind significant archives of undeveloped films and stored prints that were never seen - yet they ALL took images that were never seen by others. Personally, having retired from the business of earning a living from photography, I am quite happy not to present my images to the rest of the world. A professional photographer has a different imperative: they produce a product or service that has value to others. When an amateur puts out images for likes, the challenge is that those affirmations can become addictive, and thus one becomes a photographer for the 'other' rather than oneself. The Victorian definition of an amateur was from the Latin: for the love of the activity. Sadly amateur became associated with shoddy work, which did not, and does not do the term justice. The true amateur takes photographs for the joy it brings them, rather than a reward from others. While that reward may be affirmation and praise from others, to me it is not a necessity. When I stopped taking images for payment, I was freed to pursue and widen my own horizons. I was predominantly a wildlife photographer, but now I can explore landscapes and other themes without caring if they are 'successful' by anyone else's definition, or lauded by those who are considered authorities. On that subject, past a certain level of technical ability, to me it is simply a matter of opinion. In the end, whatever we do, we usually do so for some reason. For me photography as an amateur gives me three gifts: 1. It uses the left and right brain through the technical and artistic aspects of the activity, and as I enter into my 70's that has both psychological and physiological benefits for mental health. 2. It makes one LOOK actively at one's environment. To be really aware of our surroundings is a great gift because we will often never have those moments again. 3. One doesn't take photos sitting on one's couch. Photography encourages physical movement, and to continue to use the large, heavy telephoto lenses and FF cameras I actively exercise and do weights - and those are of great benefit as we age. 4. Photography is a great stress reliever because it takes us into the moment, which makes us forget (for a while) other negative issues in our lives. None of these require the involvement of others, they are benefits that come to us as individuals.
With respect to the title question? For sure. Maybe one percent of what I snap ends up visible to someone else. I just like freeze framing reality for my own consumption a lot of the time. It is not required that others see the output.
I've been posting my photography on instagram since 2016, before they added reels and stories, just for myself and anyone who wanted to see my work. Now I rarely post anything on there anymore. I hate how it's trying to be every other social media app, when really it was perfect as a photo sharing app. I wish I could create something similar to what instagram used to be but I'm not that clever 😂 I still do photography and I'm more passionate about it than ever, despite not being able to share it.
I get no likes on my Instagram posts so I stopped sharing. It just became too time consuming to keep uploading each day. But I didn't stop shooting. I do need to find some motivation to actually edit my photos and videos, with my Fuji I seem to just take the picturea and forget about making them better*.
That's a sad thought but maybe it's just temporary - like some day in the future you might dig up old photos on a rainy day when feeling nostalgic and see what you can get out of the image. Every try printing, matting, framing - even as 5.7s - for your own home office/photography room?
Nikon fanboys are the absolute WORST now. Unable to accept the fact that other cameras are still better. They’ve dethroned fuji fans as the whiniest commenters.
Did not know Chris was a gamer ! I like others assume no one cares. Does anyone know how to make your photos outlast you just in case your work means something to someone after you’ve departed this plane ?
I take pictures for myself and nobody notices now, so I can definitely say yes! 😂 seriously though, photography is a wonderful hobby to have - relying on photos to make a living would be another story…
"The Killing Fields" could have been a compelling movie. When I don't remember specifics about a movie, that means it didn't impress me. "The Killing Fields" is one of those movies (like "The Big Lebowski" and "Fargo," although there are movies like "Django" that I do remember for being particularly bad). I recommend "No Country For Old Men" (both the movie and the book), as well as "Joker," "Sicario," and "Das Boot" as possibly my all-time favorite, impactful movie experiences. Unfortunately, none of them have a happy ending. If you want to see a great movie that you will not want to watch again, I recommend "Biutiful." A great, well-crafted movie that's also a real downer. If you already have auto and/or home/renter's insurance, look into a rider or bundling for your camera gear. $9,000 worth of gear was stolen from me two years ago, and my insurance paid the full replacement cost for every article that I actually replaced. BTW, almost no one sees my photography. I don't care. I make it for myself.
Unless you're shooting for a client, you should take photos (do photography) for YOU. I remember a saying that Bill Fortney once said at a seminar I went to, and it went something along the lines of: If you told me you liked my photo, I would say thank you. If you told me you didn't like my photo, I'd say 'that's fine, because you weren't there when I took the photo. I didn't shoot this photo with you in mind." While the last part is a bit harsh, it is the truth in most cases , again unless you're shooting for a client where what the client likes/dislikes, is what matters (in that case, the roles are reversed. The photographer may dislike the shot, but the client might, but the client is the one with the checkbook). But you should never shoot photos for likes or fame, but rather do it because you want to, you enjoy it, and for your own personal fulfillment. Some, particular those who sell their photos, can find the happy balance between shooting for themselves and turning it into a profit, but this isn't always the case.
Well I take photos for work since I run my own business so people caring is super critical lol. Luckily they greatly enjoy them. But even if they didn't I'd still take pictures on my own for fun. Granted I enjoy shooting people a lot more than nature and landscapes, as I run out of creativity as I exhaust every location I go too, but I'd still take some.
Camera technology is so great among the top 3 manufacturers that I feel you can't really lose with any of them unless you're doing niche bleeding edge kind of stuff and need a specific technology. But what do I know. I feel I do my best work with a Ricoh GRIIIx.
I got into photography to take pictures of my young kids, and then branched out into birds, macro, etc. Family photography is still my main motivation, so external validation is unnecessary and unexpected.
Photos are a record of memory so as long as “I care” about my own memories to be relieved in HD, HQ, 4k, 8k then yes I will continue. Bonus is the tangibility of prints
Nobody cares now! Still love it. Just got the OM Systems 300mm f/4.0. WOW! I am seriously thinking about keeping my M11 and OM1 and getting rid of the Sony gear. The OM1 system and lenses are so small, light and good quality. That is frankly the beauty of Nobody cares! I get to make the size, weight, quality tradeoffs. Lenses are frankly the most important part of the size, weight tradeoff. So OM Systems continuing on with M4/3 for stills is wonderful.
Haven't started watching this yet, but immediately from the title, my thoughts go to the following. I'm Dutch but I'm living in London. And I think everything is much more commercial here. Like, people don't do something just because they like it. If they do it, they do it commercially as well. But I value just doing things for myself, because I like it. I guess I'm more innocent than the average Londoner. Which may be why I think I want to leave this place, but that's another story I suppose.
Yes i would. Because i shoot only for my very own joy & pleasure, since the childhood. It's a lifetime hobby. It's okay, if others do like my pictures, but i don't care, if they don't. I enjoy taking pictures, it keeps me calm, and peace of mind. I never shoot to please anyone.
I take photos because I take photos. The fact other may or may not notice my pictures only means I may have or haven't done the job of marketing the photos. But that's not why I shoot. BTW, I won my fair share of photo contests.
I'd say that nobody cares already, because most people view photos on their smartphones, where you can barely see anything due to the size of the screen. It's far more important than the fact that they TAKE pics with smartphones IMO, because even if you use a proper camera, your photos still won't be viewed from a proper screen.
I’m only doing it as a hobby (though I have a website and try to do well), I shoot for myself and I’m not concerned with what others think. I’ve seen various advice about if you have a photography web site you should do this, this and that and DON’T do this other thing. For example, I’ve heard your site should focus on one theme/genre. But I don’t care about that and don’t do that. I seem to do ok with traffic by simply doing what I like (had 467,000 photo views in June 2023). I think that’s the thing though…doing what you like usually means you’re doing better overall because you’re happier doing what you like and probably (naturally) produce better results. Do I like and appreciate the traffic? Sure. If I only had a fraction of that, would I continue anyway? Sure. I enjoy it for myself first and foremost. Since I don’t need the income from photography, it’s freeing for me to shoot when and what I want and only publish what I want. No pressure from anyone else.
Have been taking photos since the age of 11. Some have found their way into the national press, 1 magazine, and the local paper quite a few times. Did a stint a a second shooter on weddings back in the early 80's for a few quid. Otherwise it's a serious hobby. with an ability to shoot what I like, when I like. Wouldn't have it any other way. By the way my 11th year took place in 1959.
I spent twenty years taking photos and not showing them to anyone. I still have a camera I use strictly for photos to be never shown to anyone. I guess that means yes, I’d do photography even if no one cared. As a matter of fact, some would say I had to be dragged into the fine art world kicking and screaming.
Who the hell cares about my photos!? I've been taking photos long before social media. Only post a few of my photos here and there for fun, but really don't care what others think. I do like to discuss and appreciate photos though.
Here is a fact you don't want to face: 99.99% of all the photos published by any of your favorite professional photographers will return to the electrons they were made of right alongside the ones I have taken in my time in the hobby. I enjoy the photos of things in my yard. Fifty years ago, I attended an exhibit of Ansel Adams photos for sale in a gallery in Washington DC. None were his best and famous shots but they were things he shot and printed when he was my age at the time and just starting to learn the Zone System. None were all that impressive but his name made them valuable to some people. My views taken then reside as negatives in the closet but only a few were converted to JPG so I could print them today. When I am gone, those boxes will go to the trash along with my 4 terabytes of digital files and the 50 or so printed images that are currently hanging on my walls. "Dust thou art and to dust thou shall return". For most of us including those who were paid to do photography, photography is a journey and not a destination. I still get retirement checks from my employer in the part of my life when photography 'paid the bills'. Those photographs mean nothing to me now but the checks come in handy. The last time I saw Ansel Adams at work he was shooting Walter Mondale (look him up) with a 20x24" Polaroid, Were AA alive today, he would be quite aware of Metalens technology but I seriously doubt he would be shooting Micro 4/3. I would love to see his reactions to where we stand today in terms of cameras, lenses, AI and quite a number of things that have come and gone in the last few decades. For me? I hope someone will save some of the photos (Daguerreotypes and more recent) I have collected over the years but my 'electrons' will be free to join in making future photos for someone yet unborn to enjoy.
If they could bring one with the IQ and value their M43 based systems bring I think it's a good idea. Otherwise I can't see it competing well - would be just a niche market and probably not make a lot of money. Imagine having to engineer a whole new line of lenses. I would love to see it happen but can't imagine. Have you shot with any of their M43 or Olympus M43? Can grab an old pen mini for cheap now, get a 25 f/1.8 and you'll love it for an every day carry.
It's always fascinating to me that when folks have discussions about audience & how it seems pointless to make things without an audience, I don't get it. I love taking photos, writing, drawing, etc, and don't need any audience. It's fine if it's there, can be nice, but can also be distracting & derailing. I can't imagine how much time I'd waste chasing an audience, when that time could be spent making things. I almost always get blank stares when I try to make this point, or find someone who can relate to my feelings about it. Anyone here also not care about an audience or care to look for one?
Hi PetaPixel, talking about missing video where is your review on the new Fujifilm lens 8 mm f3.5? Fujifilm did an amazing job making this lens and you have no review video on it!!!??? See that video soon! Best, Olivier, Belgium
I don't take pictures for others to notice, the reason I post them on FB is to be able to look at them at any place at any time. I am well aware other people take significantly better pictures and in a couple of years I would guess AI generated images are going to be better than any real scene. I take pictures for myself, because I want to look at it and feel happy with the result and the memory of what it took to take the picture.
I post a lot of photos to Instagram. But I hate browsing it (I understand it's funded by advertising, but so many and so intrusive) and am surprised if anyone looks at my posts. It seems I'm using it to curate my own photos, probably just for myself. I suspect if no one looked at my feed I'd still post. And I'd still take photos if no one ever saw them. I enjoy taking pictures and working on them.
I’m a young person who fell in love with National Geographic because my family had a huge collection of older National Geographic magazines, but I fell out of love with their newer stuff.
For 99% of photographers, no one is going to care unless those people are in your images, their friends or family are in your images, or you are shooting other subjects they have a great attachment to. Your own mother, who used to put your school art on the fridge, will likely give you little more than a "that's nice dear" reaction. Then you'll often find that people don't care who took the photo, and they don't care about the technical or artistic merits of the photo, they care only about the subject of the photo. If the general public knows the name of a photographer, it's likely going to be because that photographer only takes photos of celebs. Or they are a popular RUclipsr, who people generally like more because of their personality, than their actual work. You could be the very best photographer in your city or state, and no one outside of the industry will care or even have heard of you. That's just how it is. If you're shooting just because you think you'll be the next big thing, you might as well quit now unless you have a lot of strong connections in the media who would be happy to promote you everywhere. Shoot for fun, or shoot for business, and remember that the only people you need to have care about your work is yourself and your clients.
Nobody cares about photography, because of it nature. Especially in our time, when everything is oversaturated with visuals. And I'm no better than others - I see photos of great photographers and my attention stops for no more than 15 seconds, even though I understand very well the technical aspects and the work it took. Photography is not a very good way of self-expression. Almost anything: literature, music, video - can impress a person, can change his life, and you, as an author, can tell a lot of things through these arts. Photography - I don't think so. This is why I decided to switch to video. I still get pleasure from photography, from the moment when I get a good photo, when sitting in Photoshop I realize that I did a good job. But I want to say more than this art allows.
Art for many is about the process I have gm lens and Sony top gear but yeah no one but my family and friends will see my photos and that is fine. I am even interested in a new a9 3 or even a1 2 but really it is the photos that I like and the images I want and find beautiful
I’m reminded of street photographer Vivian Maier whose work was only discovered recently. Her work was unknown and unpublished during her life. She ostensibly took the photos mainly for herself and because she was passionate about photography and documenting daily life. Social media has blown the phenomena of sharing images all out of proportion relative to what photos really mean intrinsically for most people.
Only the people closest to me care about my photos and that's okay. I do it for my own enjoyment and to capture moments in time now that may become important later after I'm gone.
I do... the FBI tried to shut me down but they won’t because social media colluded against me and they know it and they know if they make a move against me their game is over because I have “Dead Man’s Key” and that is why I can fly my drone anywhere and they just say, “Don’t post it online & you’ll be fine”. When you have walked 13,000 miles on foot, you gain superpowers that cannot be taught, they must be gained through perseverance and dedication...and that is why when the Statue of Limitations passes, and the world see’s what I’ve done since 2019...they’ll know.... no geo-fencing baby
Would you continue photographing if you would know no one would appreciate your work? Definitely! No one does and I still continue making photos for me. 😂
If? I know no one cares.
Yup. Ditto! That’s why I don’t post process too much anymore.
Absolutely. It pushes me to get out more and travel more and I take pictures to relive those memories. I feel like if I cared about what people thought of my photos or if I tried to monetize it/do it for a job, I’d hate it. So I stick to having fun, taking pictures and enjoying life.
To monetize it you'd have to be good at sales and marketing/advertising. To me those things are painful so like you I just do it for the enjoyment of the process.
I do the same. If someone else appreciates the photo- great! But I am not making photos for someone else’s acceptance. That would be more like a job. I am retired and no longer want to work for someone else.
i did it "professionally" for abit, the most I ever hated photography while also shooting a lot less then ppl realize because you are spending all your time on sales/advertising/edits to customers liking trying to sell yourself.. Gone back to just a hobby that MAY pay on occasion and it made me fall back inlove with photography to a degree. I like to just go out and shoot and maybe once a year ill edit a few of my pictures and thats it.
I have 30k+ images in my Lightroom and have shared virtually none of them. I don't care if anyone else cares, I just enjoy taking photos.
I'm the same, I never share any photos on social media.
I print the ones I like the most and maybe show to my family and friends and display it on our walls.
@@pappme yeah, social media posting always felt like a chore so I stopped a few years ago
Being an amateur photographer, I've never cared if anyone liked my photos. I've never done photography to please anyone other than myself. And apparently I'm easy to please.
keep it that way! going "professional" will suck the love of photography out of you. Also you shoot a lot less when you go pro because u spend so much time circle building ad/sales/editing/networking.
34:00 Finding Forrester. You're the man now, dog!
I feel like this question really just applies to professionals, where "people caring" is a critical part of the business model.
I’m a photographer with a flying camera. I enjoy sharing my photos. I don’t share looking for positive feedback. I share because of the amazing community of other creators I’ve connected with around the world. I dislike Facebook. I love RUclips. Every creator just needs to find the platform that works for them. The global reach & potential of social media is staggering. And at zero cost. I’m blown away by it.
Love the pod guys. The "what have you been up to" part (Fallout 4 FTW!) is already my fave part. Keep it up guys, this is good stuff.
Hey Rhawi! Yah it's been a fun playthrough. Modding the hell out of it too, this playthrough
To me, I don't care if anyone cares. That's a bonus. I do photography because I enjoy photography. If it was the other way around, I'd feel like I was doing it for the wrong reasons.
"no replacement for displacement" is the old "bigger motor = more power" saying. It's still sorta true, but turbos and electric motors are making it untrue now haha.
I love when Chris confuses people saying stuff I get lol. Not sure if that's a good or bad thing.
Yeah idk. Have owned I think 60+ vehicles in my life. Turbos are no replacement for displacement. They have an efficiency curve that doesn't really rival naturally aspirated displacement. The engines don't drive the same way. EV? Emotionless fleshlights with wheels that only appeal to people who have gaslit themselves into thinking they make the weather happy. Instant torque isn't the be all end all.
Ty for coming to my Ted talk.
@@POVwithRC The one I remember from back in the day is: "There's no substitute for cubic inches"!
I'm not famous nor do I have a monetized channel. I rarely sell photos and make calendars every year to give to friends and family. I don't think many people care. However, I love to go out in the fields and forests and capture images of nature and wildlife. Even if zero people cared I would still do it. I try to set a lofty goal for my photography to build awareness of the beautiful creatures and plants that surround us. I want everyone looking at my photographs to have a better appreciation of the beauty that surrounds us every day.
I think you hit the nail on the head when you said that some people were just upset you didn't validate their purchase. It is a common cognitive bias, and I see why they would feel that way, especially if they admire you. What strikes me odd, however, is that we're talking about the Nikon Z8 here - a $4000 camera that would generally be purchased by professional photographers, and somehow I doubt that they would go vent their frustration in the comments under your video. Therefore, we come to the conclusion that it's probably just good old Internet users throwing hissy fits for attention or trolling :)
I really appreciate you guys answering my question! I’m really looking forward to the continuations from your work at dpreview!
Seems that I have done so for nearly 20 years. I mostly do nature photography because I enjoy being in nature and I really enjoy capturing interesting moments of birds and animals. I don't get much traction on most of the social platforms (I used to have some on Flickr and googles platform). I would love to get my stuff out there more but this is just barely more than a hobby for me as I have to work a boring job as well. I am a bit of a tech nerd so I also enjoy using the technology and exploring new (and old) ways of capturing an image so much like building a computer instead of buying one I enjoy the process as well as the product.
34:37 Been doing it pretty steadily for 16 years. See no signs of slowing down at this point. I realize that there are some people who appreciate what I do, but I've never lost sleep on an upload getting next to no attention. I shoot for me, and maybe a client, and that's it. That social media validation has never really affected my work.
Yes I would still take pictures. Chris brought up a valid point in that art photography can be a mental heath process. But this applies to any creative process, be it music, craftsmanship, or even exploration that requires creativity to deal with the challenges of said exploration. I often combine exploration with my landscape photography, and I even recently added in a new challenge by doing some exploration on a dual purpose motorcycle. It’s these challenges while being creative in finding the right camera placement, composition, exposure, ext., that give me personal pleasure and mental release. Whether it be bringing one of my old 4x5 view camera’s shooting film, to using one of my digital Nikon or Fuji systems. Though I have noticed that I don’t get this feeling taking pictures with my IPhone, it just is too easy so does not offer enough of a mental challenge which I think is necessary for me to feel a sense of accomplishment in creating an image. This all said, recognition is nice, but not necessary for me to capture images.
Thank you for mentioning Vivian Maier!
I appreciate you guys a lot, thanks for your entertainment. Also love Chris' ramblings about his gaming endeavours.
The band's back together!
Most of my photos were taken to capture or document moments/events of my life. For example, i will take lots of photo when my family members gather around to make bak chang or to celebrate festivals/birthdays. As years past by, i can always look back at those photos to remember the food, recipe, who came, the smiles, the clothes and etc..
Therefore, i don't really care if others are interested in the photos or not. I will use a better camera instead of mobile camera as most events are happening at night and i need a higher quality photos to see their pimples, texture of the food and etc..
I'm pretty much exactly the same! I look back over my photos and remember all the great stuff I've been able to do. They give me pleasure and I doubt anyone (other than perhaps close friends or family) even know I take photos.
Love Chris’ typewriter. I get very little traction with my photos and that only bothers me when I see people who post nothing but AI garbage get thousands of views. I like what I share and do this for myself and possible legacy (laughing stock, jeering, etc.).
It was nice to get a candid peek behind the curtain. I couldn’t always place it when watching the old channel but thinking back to DPRTV, Chris did seem to exude more passion for fishing than photography. I guess that feeling wasn’t coming from nothing. I’m happy y’all are finding more joy at PetaPixel.
Jaron, I’ve noticed what seems like a general increase in the proportion of photography centric content on PetaPixel and I’ve found myself checking the site more often because of that. It would still be nice to never again see an article referencing something irrelevant that the Kardashians are doing. “Kim brings lighting setup to DMV for driver’s license photo,” for example, is a journalistic low point and I’d hope PetaPixel generally wants to aim higher than that.
But overall I am enjoying this podcast, am enjoying Chris and Jordan’s shenanigans, am enjoying reading PetaPixel’s photography content, and am grateful that the podcast has chapters so that I can easily skip the overly long shill segment at the beginning each week. Not pulling any punches here: getting paid by a camera brand to talk about how great it’s products are is the textbook definition of shilling. It’s funny watching the brand-fans accuse you all of various levels of shilling for this brand or that brand, while simultaneously ignoring the thing that disproves their specific accusations while providing proof positive of the spirit behind those accusations. I know the OMDS money must be good, but I really do believe the degree of separation provided by a Squarespace or a Storyblocks-esque sponsor would be an overall benefit.
14:46 - There have been times when I had to put my cameras in zip-lock bags and stick them in my portable, DC, compressor fridge (the kind you buy for camper vans) to cool off. You don't leave them in long enough to get cold enough to form condensation when you take them out. But it definitely cuts down on cool-off time.
I’m enjoying these podcasts. 👍🏻
I agree with multiple comments below. I am an amateur photographer. People do like my pictures, if they are in them. But honestly as long as I like them I am happy. I post more pictures in my smugmug gallery than could appeal to any single person.
OK, Chris got some fly fishing gear in the background - life is in balance once again...
Thanks for another great podcast! It is enjoyable and informative..I can sit through the entirety and not even be aware of the amount of time spent its that enjoyable.
Chris's very well thought out and expressed comments about the art and philosophy of photography are in some ways profound and should be written down. I hope Chris writes a book one day about photography. With illustrations obviously.
Always a good listen. Here now!
Best thing to happen in my life after the threat of loosing DP review is this podcast. It's certainly a better podcast with Jaron, he's adorable. I think you should invite unseen photographer's on the show and in the discussion. I used to like T&C's podcast where they'd review peoples pics. Jared used to do it too but IMO was a bit critical - don't need negativity "on the air" that could be done behind closed doors or buy the fledgling photographer a class. Anyway, I digress - personally I don't give a flying F if anyone sees my stuff. I just love the gear, the need to pause to record a scene, and the way I look at everything trying to find compositions and light - don't need someone else to make me feel good about it - now it would be nice to make enough to buy equipment. Would love that OM1 for example! LOL
I agree with most of this reply however Jared giving a more critical photo critique is exactly what people need, first if you send it to him you should already know he's giving it to you straight and most importantly almost everyone gets a bunch of likes, thumbs up etc and that will not help a photographer grow and get to the next level. Take every critique with an understanding that's one person's opinion.
I use om system on my travels and am totally satisfied with it.good results and most importantly it fits in my bag and can be carried around all day.
I take photos because it just relaxes me. Going out with my camera and capturing and freezing the moment. Not alot of things are better than that.
Having people see your work is important from a business perspective, but it doesn't make a huge difference on a personal level. I have very few followers and not very many people see my work, but I never stop. I currently make a living with my work, but it is difficult when your work isn't being seen by others. My drive to take photos is not for fame, but for the challenge of finding those spectacular moments. I only have 400 followers on instagram and 132 subscribers on RUclips, but I just keep creating no matter what!
Thank goodness for these podcasts on a Wednesday to keep me going through boring afternoons at work...
To answer the title question, while I enjoy showing my photos to others, I take them primarily for myself. I enjoy looking back through old albums at photos and videos, reminding myself of times gone by. I think I'd remember far less, and particularly far fewer of the minor details of my life, were it not for photography.
Agreed on not needing super blurry backgrounds in wildlife photography - half the story of an animal is the environment you find it in. A wildlife portrait without context can be pretty, but could also have been taken in a zoo.
When this video I was struck by the obvious example of Vivian Maier: someone who took a lifetime of photographs and was not recognized during her life - and I appreciated the recognition of her in the discussion. Her works were discovered only after her life ended in photographic obscurity - and during her life there was no real suggestion that she would ever be recognized and appreciated. While she had some correspondence with a French postcard maker to provide some images, it seems she did not pursue the issue. As you say, it was clear that she practised photography for reasons other than recognition. I get the sense that she took pride in her work, but that joy was not based on appreciation from others.
However, there are many noted photographers who left behind significant archives of undeveloped films and stored prints that were never seen - yet they ALL took images that were never seen by others.
Personally, having retired from the business of earning a living from photography, I am quite happy not to present my images to the rest of the world. A professional photographer has a different imperative: they produce a product or service that has value to others. When an amateur puts out images for likes, the challenge is that those affirmations can become addictive, and thus one becomes a photographer for the 'other' rather than oneself.
The Victorian definition of an amateur was from the Latin: for the love of the activity. Sadly amateur became associated with shoddy work, which did not, and does not do the term justice. The true amateur takes photographs for the joy it brings them, rather than a reward from others. While that reward may be affirmation and praise from others, to me it is not a necessity.
When I stopped taking images for payment, I was freed to pursue and widen my own horizons. I was predominantly a wildlife photographer, but now I can explore landscapes and other themes without caring if they are 'successful' by anyone else's definition, or lauded by those who are considered authorities. On that subject, past a certain level of technical ability, to me it is simply a matter of opinion.
In the end, whatever we do, we usually do so for some reason. For me photography as an amateur gives me three gifts:
1. It uses the left and right brain through the technical and artistic aspects of the activity, and as I enter into my 70's that has both psychological and physiological benefits for mental health.
2. It makes one LOOK actively at one's environment. To be really aware of our surroundings is a great gift because we will often never have those moments again.
3. One doesn't take photos sitting on one's couch. Photography encourages physical movement, and to continue to use the large, heavy telephoto lenses and FF cameras I actively exercise and do weights - and those are of great benefit as we age.
4. Photography is a great stress reliever because it takes us into the moment, which makes us forget (for a while) other negative issues in our lives.
None of these require the involvement of others, they are benefits that come to us as individuals.
Chris. Your colorssssss 💙
I've never cared about DP Review. I like you guys here. This is good. Really good.
Zen of catch and release, I’m an artist, I draw flies…woot, woot!
With respect to the title question? For sure. Maybe one percent of what I snap ends up visible to someone else. I just like freeze framing reality for my own consumption a lot of the time. It is not required that others see the output.
for the love of the process
@@PaulSaffordYesssss 🥰
I've been posting my photography on instagram since 2016, before they added reels and stories, just for myself and anyone who wanted to see my work. Now I rarely post anything on there anymore. I hate how it's trying to be every other social media app, when really it was perfect as a photo sharing app. I wish I could create something similar to what instagram used to be but I'm not that clever 😂 I still do photography and I'm more passionate about it than ever, despite not being able to share it.
New podcast subscriber here, thanks for doing them.
I get no likes on my Instagram posts so I stopped sharing. It just became too time consuming to keep uploading each day. But I didn't stop shooting. I do need to find some motivation to actually edit my photos and videos, with my Fuji I seem to just take the picturea and forget about making them better*.
That's a sad thought but maybe it's just temporary - like some day in the future you might dig up old photos on a rainy day when feeling nostalgic and see what you can get out of the image. Every try printing, matting, framing - even as 5.7s - for your own home office/photography room?
Nikon fanboys are the absolute WORST now. Unable to accept the fact that other cameras are still better. They’ve dethroned fuji fans as the whiniest commenters.
Did not know Chris was a gamer ! I like others assume no one cares. Does anyone know how to make your photos outlast you just in case your work means something to someone after you’ve departed this plane ?
I take pictures for myself and nobody notices now, so I can definitely say yes! 😂 seriously though, photography is a wonderful hobby to have - relying on photos to make a living would be another story…
"The Killing Fields" could have been a compelling movie. When I don't remember specifics about a movie, that means it didn't impress me. "The Killing Fields" is one of those movies (like "The Big Lebowski" and "Fargo," although there are movies like "Django" that I do remember for being particularly bad). I recommend "No Country For Old Men" (both the movie and the book), as well as "Joker," "Sicario," and "Das Boot" as possibly my all-time favorite, impactful movie experiences. Unfortunately, none of them have a happy ending. If you want to see a great movie that you will not want to watch again, I recommend "Biutiful." A great, well-crafted movie that's also a real downer.
If you already have auto and/or home/renter's insurance, look into a rider or bundling for your camera gear. $9,000 worth of gear was stolen from me two years ago, and my insurance paid the full replacement cost for every article that I actually replaced.
BTW, almost no one sees my photography. I don't care. I make it for myself.
Unless you're shooting for a client, you should take photos (do photography) for YOU. I remember a saying that Bill Fortney once said at a seminar I went to, and it went something along the lines of: If you told me you liked my photo, I would say thank you. If you told me you didn't like my photo, I'd say 'that's fine, because you weren't there when I took the photo. I didn't shoot this photo with you in mind." While the last part is a bit harsh, it is the truth in most cases , again unless you're shooting for a client where what the client likes/dislikes, is what matters (in that case, the roles are reversed. The photographer may dislike the shot, but the client might, but the client is the one with the checkbook). But you should never shoot photos for likes or fame, but rather do it because you want to, you enjoy it, and for your own personal fulfillment. Some, particular those who sell their photos, can find the happy balance between shooting for themselves and turning it into a profit, but this isn't always the case.
Well I take photos for work since I run my own business so people caring is super critical lol. Luckily they greatly enjoy them. But even if they didn't I'd still take pictures on my own for fun. Granted I enjoy shooting people a lot more than nature and landscapes, as I run out of creativity as I exhaust every location I go too, but I'd still take some.
People not caring hasn't stopped me from taking lots of photos.
Camera technology is so great among the top 3 manufacturers that I feel you can't really lose with any of them unless you're doing niche bleeding edge kind of stuff and need a specific technology. But what do I know. I feel I do my best work with a Ricoh GRIIIx.
I got into photography to take pictures of my young kids, and then branched out into birds, macro, etc. Family photography is still my main motivation, so external validation is unnecessary and unexpected.
Nikon zed eight vs Pentax K oh one?
And for bonus points: ... vs Canon ixus (the original one, w/ CF card).
Photos are a record of memory so as long as “I care” about my own memories to be relieved in HD, HQ, 4k, 8k then yes I will continue. Bonus is the tangibility of prints
Chris needs to fix his cup placement ;-)
Nobody cares now! Still love it. Just got the OM Systems 300mm f/4.0. WOW! I am seriously thinking about keeping my M11 and OM1 and getting rid of the Sony gear. The OM1 system and lenses are so small, light and good quality. That is frankly the beauty of Nobody cares! I get to make the size, weight, quality tradeoffs. Lenses are frankly the most important part of the size, weight tradeoff. So OM Systems continuing on with M4/3 for stills is wonderful.
Haven't started watching this yet, but immediately from the title, my thoughts go to the following. I'm Dutch but I'm living in London. And I think everything is much more commercial here. Like, people don't do something just because they like it. If they do it, they do it commercially as well. But I value just doing things for myself, because I like it. I guess I'm more innocent than the average Londoner. Which may be why I think I want to leave this place, but that's another story I suppose.
With respect to commenters stanning for Nikon on the comparison video, I'm just surprised the nursing home staff let them near the teletype.
Yes i would. Because i shoot only for my very own joy & pleasure, since the childhood. It's a lifetime hobby. It's okay, if others do like my pictures, but i don't care, if they don't. I enjoy taking pictures, it keeps me calm, and peace of mind. I never shoot to please anyone.
I genuinely would like to see the Z8 vs X-H2 video.
YES ! I do care about my own photos and I do NOT care if nobody cares about my photos !
Chris should use Pentax. Then Canon, Nikon, Sony and Fuji guys will be quiet :D
1:04:00 Pentax has no Achiles heel :D :D
Yes, I would and I do. Since I got my Nikon FM2 back in 1983. I enjoy it way too much to bother whether anyone is impressed by what I’m doing.
Okay...are Jordan and Chris planning to redo the "Wooden Nichols" series of moview?
Yes.
-Jordan
I take photos because I take photos. The fact other may or may not notice my pictures only means I may have or haven't done the job of marketing the photos. But that's not why I shoot. BTW, I won my fair share of photo contests.
I'd say that nobody cares already, because most people view photos on their smartphones, where you can barely see anything due to the size of the screen. It's far more important than the fact that they TAKE pics with smartphones IMO, because even if you use a proper camera, your photos still won't be viewed from a proper screen.
I'm pretty sure nobody cares about or even knows about my photos, but they give me great pleasure!
I’m only doing it as a hobby (though I have a website and try to do well), I shoot for myself and I’m not concerned with what others think. I’ve seen various advice about if you have a photography web site you should do this, this and that and DON’T do this other thing. For example, I’ve heard your site should focus on one theme/genre. But I don’t care about that and don’t do that. I seem to do ok with traffic by simply doing what I like (had 467,000 photo views in June 2023). I think that’s the thing though…doing what you like usually means you’re doing better overall because you’re happier doing what you like and probably (naturally) produce better results. Do I like and appreciate the traffic? Sure. If I only had a fraction of that, would I continue anyway? Sure. I enjoy it for myself first and foremost. Since I don’t need the income from photography, it’s freeing for me to shoot when and what I want and only publish what I want. No pressure from anyone else.
Have been taking photos since the age of 11. Some have found their way into the national press, 1 magazine, and the local paper quite a few times. Did a stint a a second shooter on weddings back in the early 80's for a few quid. Otherwise it's a serious hobby. with an ability to shoot what I like, when I like. Wouldn't have it any other way. By the way my 11th year took place in 1959.
why no camera reviews guys?
Fuji XS20 or Canon R8 full review?
Shooting the XS20 right now...
1:10:45
I shoot for myself first: if others care or not is immaterial, always has been.
Not one person has ever cared about a photo I've taken. What would I do with my time otherwise?
Poor Jordan. Let the man speak.
I approve this message.
-Jordan
I spent twenty years taking photos and not showing them to anyone. I still have a camera I use strictly for photos to be never shown to anyone. I guess that means yes, I’d do photography even if no one cared. As a matter of fact, some would say I had to be dragged into the fine art world kicking and screaming.
Who the hell cares about my photos!?
I've been taking photos long before social media. Only post a few of my photos here and there for fun, but really don't care what others think.
I do like to discuss and appreciate photos though.
Here is a fact you don't want to face: 99.99% of all the photos published by any of your favorite professional photographers will return to the electrons they were made of right alongside the ones I have taken in my time in the hobby. I enjoy the photos of things in my yard. Fifty years ago, I attended an exhibit of Ansel Adams photos for sale in a gallery in Washington DC. None were his best and famous shots but they were things he shot and printed when he was my age at the time and just starting to learn the Zone System. None were all that impressive but his name made them valuable to some people. My views taken then reside as negatives in the closet but only a few were converted to JPG so I could print them today. When I am gone, those boxes will go to the trash along with my 4 terabytes of digital files and the 50 or so printed images that are currently hanging on my walls. "Dust thou art and to dust thou shall return". For most of us including those who were paid to do photography, photography is a journey and not a destination. I still get retirement checks from my employer in the part of my life when photography 'paid the bills'. Those photographs mean nothing to me now but the checks come in handy. The last time I saw Ansel Adams at work he was shooting Walter Mondale (look him up) with a 20x24" Polaroid, Were AA alive today, he would be quite aware of Metalens technology but I seriously doubt he would be shooting Micro 4/3. I would love to see his reactions to where we stand today in terms of cameras, lenses, AI and quite a number of things that have come and gone in the last few decades. For me? I hope someone will save some of the photos (Daguerreotypes and more recent) I have collected over the years but my 'electrons' will be free to join in making future photos for someone yet unborn to enjoy.
Om-system should make a full frame camera
If they could bring one with the IQ and value their M43 based systems bring I think it's a good idea. Otherwise I can't see it competing well - would be just a niche market and probably not make a lot of money. Imagine having to engineer a whole new line of lenses. I would love to see it happen but can't imagine. Have you shot with any of their M43 or Olympus M43? Can grab an old pen mini for cheap now, get a 25 f/1.8 and you'll love it for an every day carry.
@@PaulSafford IQ on full frame will always be better. I haven't shot m43, But I did shoot aps-c. Once I got full frame I never looked back.
No, that would completely sink the company. What you wish to see and what makes sense for a company are not the same.
oh yes I don't really care if NOBODY Cared its my passion I enjoy the process gives me fullfillment all the time
It's always fascinating to me that when folks have discussions about audience & how it seems pointless to make things without an audience, I don't get it. I love taking photos, writing, drawing, etc, and don't need any audience. It's fine if it's there, can be nice, but can also be distracting & derailing. I can't imagine how much time I'd waste chasing an audience, when that time could be spent making things. I almost always get blank stares when I try to make this point, or find someone who can relate to my feelings about it. Anyone here also not care about an audience or care to look for one?
I take photos for myself so I'd have no problem if no one cared.
I agree with Chris - I'd rather have a Sony A7RV than a Nikon Z8...
Hi PetaPixel, talking about missing video where is your review on the new Fujifilm lens 8 mm f3.5? Fujifilm did an amazing job making this lens and you have no review video on it!!!??? See that video soon! Best, Olivier, Belgium
What's the connection?
I don't take pictures for others to notice, the reason I post them on FB is to be able to look at them at any place at any time. I am well aware other people take significantly better pictures and in a couple of years I would guess AI generated images are going to be better than any real scene. I take pictures for myself, because I want to look at it and feel happy with the result and the memory of what it took to take the picture.
I post a lot of photos to Instagram. But I hate browsing it (I understand it's funded by advertising, but so many and so intrusive) and am surprised if anyone looks at my posts. It seems I'm using it to curate my own photos, probably just for myself. I suspect if no one looked at my feed I'd still post. And I'd still take photos if no one ever saw them. I enjoy taking pictures and working on them.
I’m a young person who fell in love with National Geographic because my family had a huge collection of older National Geographic magazines, but I fell out of love with their newer stuff.
For 99% of photographers, no one is going to care unless those people are in your images, their friends or family are in your images, or you are shooting other subjects they have a great attachment to. Your own mother, who used to put your school art on the fridge, will likely give you little more than a "that's nice dear" reaction. Then you'll often find that people don't care who took the photo, and they don't care about the technical or artistic merits of the photo, they care only about the subject of the photo. If the general public knows the name of a photographer, it's likely going to be because that photographer only takes photos of celebs. Or they are a popular RUclipsr, who people generally like more because of their personality, than their actual work. You could be the very best photographer in your city or state, and no one outside of the industry will care or even have heard of you. That's just how it is. If you're shooting just because you think you'll be the next big thing, you might as well quit now unless you have a lot of strong connections in the media who would be happy to promote you everywhere. Shoot for fun, or shoot for business, and remember that the only people you need to have care about your work is yourself and your clients.
Nobody cares about photography, because of it nature. Especially in our time, when everything is oversaturated with visuals. And I'm no better than others - I see photos of great photographers and my attention stops for no more than 15 seconds, even though I understand very well the technical aspects and the work it took.
Photography is not a very good way of self-expression. Almost anything: literature, music, video - can impress a person, can change his life, and you, as an author, can tell a lot of things through these arts. Photography - I don't think so. This is why I decided to switch to video. I still get pleasure from photography, from the moment when I get a good photo, when sitting in Photoshop I realize that I did a good job. But I want to say more than this art allows.
I shoot for me - no one cares - I get likes by few , but it’s for me and my connection to the outdoors- me time!
Answer, I do keep making/taking photographs despite the fact that no sees them and no one cares.
Now to watch the video..
Art for many is about the process I have gm lens and Sony top gear but yeah no one but my family and friends will see my photos and that is fine. I am even interested in a new a9 3 or even a1 2 but really it is the photos that I like and the images I want and find beautiful
Finding Forrester... Very Canadian reference...
Great video podcast as usual. Maybe just re-sync the sound...
I’m reminded of street photographer Vivian Maier whose work was only discovered recently. Her work was unknown and unpublished during her life. She ostensibly took the photos mainly for herself and because she was passionate about photography and documenting daily life. Social media has blown the phenomena of sharing images all out of proportion relative to what photos really mean intrinsically for most people.
Is the movie: Finding Forrester?
Only the people closest to me care about my photos and that's okay. I do it for my own enjoyment and to capture moments in time now that may become important later after I'm gone.
Of COURSE I keep photos if no one else cared -- I take them for ME
I do... the FBI tried to shut me down but they won’t because social media colluded against me and they know it and they know if they make a move against me their game is over because I have “Dead Man’s Key” and that is why I can fly my drone anywhere and they just say, “Don’t post it online & you’ll be fine”. When you have walked 13,000 miles on foot, you gain superpowers that cannot be taught, they must be gained through perseverance and dedication...and that is why when the Statue of Limitations passes, and the world see’s what I’ve done since 2019...they’ll know.... no geo-fencing baby
I take pictures for myself lol. Not looking to impress anyone
Would you continue photographing if you would know no one would appreciate your work? Definitely! No one does and I still continue making photos for me. 😂
When is Drill Sergeant Niccolls coming back!