Hi DS, Can you post a comparison between Thonet and Vander Kugel 2.0 and Edifier (specially S2000 MKiii/pro)? There are no comparisons online between these two speakers. Thanks in advance
Edifier has a bit more bass but at the same time sounds more muddy than the JBL. Edifier is less flat and has a more rolled off frequency response up high
i heard the jbl in real life.. this video does not even come close to what they deliver. They are pure production monitors that split every tone apart. I think the Edifier are probably something for consumers that love a good warm sound. I would not like to listen all day on the JBL speakers to be honest. But they are extremely precise.
JBL is a studio monitor, Edifier is for music listening. Edifier bass seems bigger only because of the lack of missing midrange detail. Majority of music is in the midrange frequencies. just listen to the difference when the strings play. JBL complete sound takes the win easily.
That's completely the opposite of what I hear. The JBL sounds like it has a distinct V signature, with the treble elevated and the mids recessed with the bass left intact. The Edifier keeps the mid-bass to mids flat with the treble but in doing so loses some clarity in the treble and high mids.
I like the upper section of the JBL but to be honest they are bass light which means going up an inch on the cone at least but the price goes up too with that. I have the S1000db MK3 (broke the optical door off in the first hour) and in a 5m x 5m room with high ceilings and they sound pretty good. The upper section can be enhanced with the treble on the rear but in real life I found them ok with both bass and treble on center dial but prefered my bass at 1.00 o'clock. The bluetooth volume is a little lower and needs to be cranked a bit but the sound quality is definitely decent. I used an iphone 7 which uses the AAC codec and the clarity is very good, connectivity is instant and reliable. APTX HD is yet to be tested but i do know it wont be worse than the iphones AAC which is better than the SBC standard BT code. I was going to go for the JBLs but the sheer versatility of the Edifiers in respect of connections and tweaking power nailed it. They are also very loud and given my environment the 5.5 inch cone, 1 inch tweeter and 120 watts RMS with hi res hd music is easily enough for both myself and the neighbours. Also no need for exterior DAC which would be needed with any monitor speaker as I use these for TV with Amazon HD music on Apple TV 4K 5th gen (again codec limited). So lets say the Topping E30 for the DAC would add another £109 currently to the price. If I was going down the monitor route then I think the Adam T5V would have the edge over the JBLs due to the better bass and fairly equal upper section and although just a fraction more expensive but the slight lack of low end on the 305s can be a deal breaker for any bass lover like me. Saying all that, admittedly i have not heard them in person yet.
The tweeter wave guard is causing the highs to sound squashed like coming from a horn. With the Edifier S1000, you dont notice the highs coming from the tweeter whereas i'm constantly drawn into the tweeter with JBL 305P.
with different purpose in mind, I immediately noticed that edifier is designed to be a listening devices. JBL is not for everyday enjoyment, it had another different purpose.
the JBLs are actually a great midway between crystal clear untouched Studio Monitor sound, and enjoyable rich sound (Defenetly recommend a sub with the JBLs tho) ^^
The JBL LSR305P is a member of the JBL Professional studio monitoring lineup, and I would wager that there are way more JBL speakers used in recording studios than Edifier. The JBL sounds much closer to the Source Track !
i heard the jbl in real life.. this video does not even come close to what they deliver. They are pure production monitors that split every tone apart. I think the Edifier are probably something for consumers that love a good warm sound. I would not like to listen all day on the JBL speakers to be honest. But they are extremely precise.
Hi DS, I am a dutch guy living in Spain. Have listened and read reviews from a lot of tests. I tried the Edifier 1700BT and the 880DB. They sound good but I would like some fuller speakers. more bass and sometimes a bit louder. I am thinking of the S1000MKIII or the S2000MKIII. do you think they will fullfill my wishes ? For wich one should i go ?? Your reviews and the reactions to them are helping me a lot but just cant decide. HELP !!! they are for on my desk connect to my imac27.
@@miguelmanuel9618 claro que si, buscalos en google vas a ver los s1000db son de principos del 2017 y la primera gen de los 305 salieron a mediados del 2017, el tiempo vuela. SURE they did they are both from 2017 time flies. just google them
I am undecided on the JBL 305P MKII vs M Audio BX5 D3 could you please do a video on these. I know you have done a video before on the first gen JBL vs M Audio. It would be great to also include your preference on the Video's and why in the chat. I think you do and amazing job with these videos however you are handling these Speakers everyday and as much as you do your best to record the speakers to the best of your ability it would be appreciated to have your say as well.
They are both good in their own way (studio monitor vs hi-fi), but considering that the Edifier's cost 150 euros more, the Jbl's are the best bargain, even for just listening to music (one can, if necessary, set the High-Frequency trim at -2db to slightly "smothen" the sound) .
Highs and high mids JBL, lower mids and bass Edifier. I would guess different use cases though, Edifier would be excellent for home theater or casual listening with it's added capabilities, JBL as an affordable all-rounder for mixing or anything else.
Neither offer the flat response and midi-range of Yamaha for mixing, but the Edifiers are great for listening and good value. Depends on what your need?
My Edifier R2000DB is music to my ears, WITH THE EXCEPTION of under 80HZ bass. It excels in classic rock, acoustic and classics but somewhat underperforms in EDMs and HipHop
Hi I was just about to buy the Edifier S1000MKII's but my wife hates the look. can you help me with a speaker that is bluetooth, Aptx 5.0 around the same price that looks more traditional hopefully with cloth fronts.
@@rdolle990 Yet sounds a level above the Edifier offering and in the US the JBL's can be had for $180 a pair while the Edifier is almost DOUBLE at $350. You can certainly buy a good quality DAC with the price difference
oh mate, you got no idea, the gloss is a fcking pain in the ass, it gets dusty in less then a day, and scratched by anything other then one of those Cloths you use to clean your Glasses, its very annoying, as long as theres no direct light shinning on them they do look way better in person i have ot admit tho, they wont completely kill a estatical room
@@savelycrush, да есть "уникумы" у которых эдифайер играет лучше, чем полочная акустика, по 100 - 200к в связке с дорогими усилителями А, АВ, G класса...))) Поэтому, я не удивлён.
@@savelycrush, то что китайцы задрали цены.... Не говорит о том, что они автоматически научились делать акустику, к которой такие легенды, как JBL шли годами....... Поэтому, дело тут совсем не в ценах а в "бизнес моделе".... JBL "порвала ранок" своими недорогими, но качественными блютус колонками, и сейчас они на них зарабатывают львиную долю бабла.... Поэтому, и серия LSR родилась, как возможность хорошего, студийного звука за небольшой прайс, потому как, они смекнули, что лучше продать много подешевле, чем пару дорогих....
@@onefire6928 Какой умный ты маркетолог и экономист, говоря честно мне похую на портативные колонки, и на число их продаж, потому что в данном случае я интересуюсь пятидюймовками для сведения. И разницы нет кто и сколько стоит, есть задача: купить пятидюймовки, которые лучше всего воспроизводят весь спектр звука, которые дают точную картину, а не приукрашенный звук JBL с завышением на 120 и на 8-10к, при этом с проваленными 150-800, и чуть задратыми 3500-4000, зачем мне это все править на мастер канале, когда можно просто купить другие👌
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From all the monitors that you have compared, is possible Mackie524 to be at the top 3 most detailed monitors?
Are You going to make Ranking of this all monitors? What are the best as PC Speakers or Alternative for SounBar TV ? :)
@christos yes, at this price point it is top 3 in that regard IMO
@@DSAUDIOreview what would you choose for you from these 3 ?
Hi DS,
Can you post a comparison between Thonet and Vander Kugel 2.0 and Edifier (specially S2000 MKiii/pro)?
There are no comparisons online between these two speakers.
Thanks in advance
have you considered doing some kind of "best in class, best for the money, budget, mid, high end" chart of all the speakers you have tested?
i just got my Edifier R1700BT 2.0 Bluetooth Bookshelf Speakers Brown Yesterday and they sound amazing
In my opinion Edifier better in the low frequency , Jbl in high. overall the edifier sound seems more engaging to me
One more great comparison that shows character of speakers sound what can help to make your choice. Thanks! Keep it going! )
Edifier has a bit more bass but at the same time sounds more muddy than the JBL. Edifier is less flat and has a more rolled off frequency response up high
i heard the jbl in real life.. this video does not even come close to what they deliver. They are pure production monitors that split every tone apart. I think the Edifier are probably something for consumers that love a good warm sound. I would not like to listen all day on the JBL speakers to be honest. But they are extremely precise.
@@Psychedelic-Playground Which speakers are the best?
@@Psychedelic-Playgroundsom quente vc diz que e uma caixa mais pra lazer ouvi músicas e filmes.?
Got my JBL 305's with a SVS PB-1000, sound is doing more then well, its actually incredeble
JBL is a studio monitor, Edifier is for music listening. Edifier bass seems bigger only because of the lack of missing midrange detail. Majority of music is in the midrange frequencies. just listen to the difference when the strings play. JBL complete sound takes the win easily.
That's completely the opposite of what I hear. The JBL sounds like it has a distinct V signature, with the treble elevated and the mids recessed with the bass left intact. The Edifier keeps the mid-bass to mids flat with the treble but in doing so loses some clarity in the treble and high mids.
I like the upper section of the JBL but to be honest they are bass light which means going up an inch on the cone at least but the price goes up too with that. I have the S1000db MK3 (broke the optical door off in the first hour) and in a 5m x 5m room with high ceilings and they sound pretty good. The upper section can be enhanced with the treble on the rear but in real life I found them ok with both bass and treble on center dial but prefered my bass at 1.00 o'clock. The bluetooth volume is a little lower and needs to be cranked a bit but the sound quality is definitely decent. I used an iphone 7 which uses the AAC codec and the clarity is very good, connectivity is instant and reliable. APTX HD is yet to be tested but i do know it wont be worse than the iphones AAC which is better than the SBC standard BT code. I was going to go for the JBLs but the sheer versatility of the Edifiers in respect of connections and tweaking power nailed it. They are also very loud and given my environment the 5.5 inch cone, 1 inch tweeter and 120 watts RMS with hi res hd music is easily enough for both myself and the neighbours. Also no need for exterior DAC which would be needed with any monitor speaker as I use these for TV with Amazon HD music on Apple TV 4K 5th gen (again codec limited). So lets say the Topping E30 for the DAC would add another £109 currently to the price. If I was going down the monitor route then I think the Adam T5V would have the edge over the JBLs due to the better bass and fairly equal upper section and although just a fraction more expensive but the slight lack of low end on the 305s can be a deal breaker for any bass lover like me. Saying all that, admittedly i have not heard them in person yet.
The tweeter wave guard is causing the highs to sound squashed like coming from a horn. With the Edifier S1000, you dont notice the highs coming from the tweeter whereas i'm constantly drawn into the tweeter with JBL 305P.
with different purpose in mind, I immediately noticed that edifier is designed to be a listening devices. JBL is not for everyday enjoyment, it had another different purpose.
the JBLs are actually a great midway between crystal clear untouched Studio Monitor sound, and enjoyable rich sound (Defenetly recommend a sub with the JBLs tho) ^^
Spot on! Wanted to just say the same... Bump in the low bass speaks for itself, considering Edifier as my living room setup.
The JBL LSR305P is a member of the JBL Professional studio monitoring lineup, and I would wager that there are way more JBL speakers used in recording studios than Edifier. The JBL sounds much closer to the Source Track !
@@robertklacza1160 : Sounding closer to the source track is not a positive recommendation!
@@Driver2616It is if your purpose is to mix and produce music, you want the frequency response curve to be as flat as possible
i heard the jbl in real life.. this video does not even come close to what they deliver. They are pure production monitors that split every tone apart. I think the Edifier are probably something for consumers that love a good warm sound. I would not like to listen all day on the JBL speakers to be honest. But they are extremely precise.
Hi DS, I am a dutch guy living in Spain. Have listened and read reviews from a lot of tests. I tried the Edifier 1700BT and the 880DB. They sound good but I would like some fuller speakers. more bass and sometimes a bit louder. I am thinking of the S1000MKIII or the S2000MKIII. do you think they will fullfill my wishes ? For wich one should i go ?? Your reviews and the reactions to them are helping me a lot but just cant decide. HELP !!! they are for on my desk connect to my imac27.
at laaaaaast..
been waiting for this battle for almost 3 years now...thanks SOOOOO much
these models didn' exist 3 years ago.
@@miguelmanuel9618 claro que si, buscalos en google vas a ver los s1000db son de principos del 2017 y la primera gen de los 305 salieron a mediados del 2017, el tiempo vuela.
SURE they did they are both from 2017 time flies. just google them
@@endrizo s1000mkii was realised 1 year ago
i m talking about the original ones. the s1000db is 3 years old...the original jbl 305 is too.
again..i have been waiting for this for 3 years now.
I am undecided on the JBL 305P MKII vs M Audio BX5 D3 could you please do a video on these. I know you have done a video before on the first gen JBL vs M Audio. It would be great to also include your preference on the Video's and why in the chat. I think you do and amazing job with these videos however you are handling these Speakers everyday and as much as you do your best to record the speakers to the best of your ability it would be appreciated to have your say as well.
Both sound great TBH, with different shortcomings on each. I'd have a really hard time choosing one.
JBL seems to sound better
I bought the edifier and I am pleased with it
They are both good in their own way (studio monitor vs hi-fi), but considering that the Edifier's cost 150 euros more, the Jbl's are the best bargain, even for just listening to music (one can, if necessary, set the High-Frequency trim at -2db to slightly "smothen" the sound) .
Highs and high mids JBL, lower mids and bass Edifier. I would guess different use cases though, Edifier would be excellent for home theater or casual listening with it's added capabilities, JBL as an affordable all-rounder for mixing or anything else.
JBL 305P MKII clearly wins unless you like emphasized bass that always seems to sacrifice mids and clarity.
Neither offer the flat response and midi-range of Yamaha for mixing, but the Edifiers are great for listening and good value. Depends on what your need?
Could you make a review on the SubZero SZSM-4X?
Is the microphone always set at the same position, or is the microphone just a props?
My Edifier R2000DB is music to my ears, WITH THE EXCEPTION of under 80HZ bass. It excels in classic rock, acoustic and classics but somewhat underperforms in EDMs and HipHop
subwoofer op
Hi I was just about to buy the Edifier S1000MKII's but my wife hates the look. can you help me with a speaker that is bluetooth, Aptx 5.0 around the same price that looks more traditional hopefully with cloth fronts.
Peguei o s1000?kii acredito q minha mulher vai achar top .
KRK RP7 G4 vs Kali LP-6 please?
Edifier is on another lvl at the same price
These models from Edifier and JBL are priced the same in Canada pretty much right down to the exact dollar.
Except the JBL needs a DAC/pre-amp
@@rdolle990 interesting. Why is that?
@Jack Mehoff True enough.
@@rdolle990 Yet sounds a level above the Edifier offering and in the US the JBL's can be had for $180 a pair while the Edifier is almost DOUBLE at $350. You can certainly buy a good quality DAC with the price difference
The vocals are tight and piercing on the JBL, and the bass hums more than the opponent. Edifier, on the other hand, is too quiet in the treble.
Almost same but the JBL is very expensive compare to edifier
thanks!
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do s1000 hiss like 305 when you are closer than 2 feet away ?
Here in Canada, the JBL 305P MkII price is 2/3 of that of Edifier S1000MKII. 290 vs 499. For the $$$ JBL is clear winner.
At the moment 270 for single JBL (540 for both) vs 499, or 399 on sale for S1000MKII
Edifier cost almost twice then JBL, is it twice time better...is up to you to decide
Price and functionality value breakdown: JBL 305 $119x2 (pair) + Bluetooth receiver = Edifier S1000mk2 $349
hate how those JBLs look
oh mate, you got no idea, the gloss is a fcking pain in the ass, it gets dusty in less then a day, and scratched by anything other then one of those Cloths you use to clean your Glasses, its very annoying, as long as theres no direct light shinning on them they do look way better in person i have ot admit tho, they wont completely kill a estatical room
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jbl lose (listening from legion 7i 2020)
Половины инструментов я на Эдифайере тупо просто не услышал......
Я общую картину лучше слышал на edifier
@@savelycrush, да есть "уникумы" у которых эдифайер играет лучше, чем полочная акустика, по 100 - 200к в связке с дорогими усилителями А, АВ, G класса...))) Поэтому, я не удивлён.
@@onefire6928 Дорогой уникум, JBL это самая бюджетная акустика из 5", Учись отличать увеличение громкости на "частотах ясности" 8-10к от детализации.
@@savelycrush, то что китайцы задрали цены.... Не говорит о том, что они автоматически научились делать акустику, к которой такие легенды, как JBL шли годами....... Поэтому, дело тут совсем не в ценах а в "бизнес моделе".... JBL "порвала ранок" своими недорогими, но качественными блютус колонками, и сейчас они на них зарабатывают львиную долю бабла.... Поэтому, и серия LSR родилась, как возможность хорошего, студийного звука за небольшой прайс, потому как, они смекнули, что лучше продать много подешевле, чем пару дорогих....
@@onefire6928 Какой умный ты маркетолог и экономист, говоря честно мне похую на портативные колонки, и на число их продаж, потому что в данном случае я интересуюсь пятидюймовками для сведения. И разницы нет кто и сколько стоит, есть задача: купить пятидюймовки, которые лучше всего воспроизводят весь спектр звука, которые дают точную картину, а не приукрашенный звук JBL с завышением на 120 и на 8-10к, при этом с проваленными 150-800, и чуть задратыми 3500-4000, зачем мне это все править на мастер канале, когда можно просто купить другие👌
у Эдифайр просто дико завышенный басс....!!!!! А так они сливают 305 во всём....