I snagged a Dark Horse Premium a couple months ago. Got that ultra dark grey color (almost looks black) and a stick. Immediately ordered the complimentary Ford Performance blower and exhaust. Have the handling kit coming from Steeda. Still have to upgrade the wheels and tires, though. GO BABY GO!! 🐐😎🎉
Good video Alex. I am in agreement! Ford engineers say that the Dark Horse has the most down-force of any Mustang so far. It will not take much to get it to 500 rwhp as NA car. I look forward to being able to install the ESS. Cheers 👍👊💪🇺🇸
Totally understand your argument to aftermarket a car to your own specs to possibly achieve a better car. Wish I had your knowledge and the mechanic ability to do it myself. But, as you mentioned, most of us don't have that savvy. We kind of need to buy our performance in tack. The Dark Horse seem to be the ticket.
Alex, Your dealer friend wants to sell you another Mustang. Either a Dark Horse, or at least another GT with the 10R80. I'm an old man. I learned to drive on a manual 3 on the tree. I even prefer a manual in my big rig, and asked for it to be ordered with a manual, but the 10R80 was the way to go for my Mustang, after Ford bought back my MT82. I don't regret ordering the 10R80 in the least. I'm surprised that you went back to the MT82.
8:12 I would not buy another Mustang GT with a manual as long as it has the M82 transmission. Only 4 usable gears that are too widely spaced, along with the same old Getreg issues are still there. As much as I love rowing through the gears, the 10R80 is just a much better transmission that pairs well with the high revving nature of the Coyote, making it much faster. Getting a Dark Horse with a Tremec vs 10R80 would be a much tougher decison, for the same reasons you mentioned in the video. If trackng the DH on a road course, the Tremec and Recaros would be a really great combo.
Thanks for the video on the DH . Looks like y’all are having fun up north with Stang Mode . I’ve just about got the 1,000 mile break in on my DH . I’ll drive it up to your part of the world soon for the Cruise In Season. You remember where . See you soon I hope .
Its a built motor version of a motor that already takes 8-900whp to the face "unopened" as long as you're not shifting at 8k kissing limiter... Once the prices cool down it will be the mustang to get for modders that don't want to get into dealing with engine builders... anyone who thinks that is a pleasant experience has likely never done it yet :D
That Darkhorse also come with rear differential coolers and Trans coolers oil coolers you don’t have on your GT and will be at least $2k plus a lot of labor install and the amount of additional protection they give you is Major!!
I test drove a 6spd dark horse Monday and I was blown away at the driving experience compared to the 24’ GT. I didn’t expect much of a power difference but there was lol.
Most of the people on here with all these negative comments about the Dark Horse probably have never driven one. Just calling it a rebranded Mach 1 and a more expensive GT have no basis for the comparison other than You Tube. Go sit in one and drive it and then talk about it.
Agreed. Just got my handling pack 6speed DH and let me tell you. It ain’t a Mustang. It’s glorious to drive. And I come from long list of everything performance. I had a 600 wheel C6Z in 2008. Just sold my C7Z for the DH. Can’t wait for my whipple to get here. Anybody reading this and contemplating the car like I did. Just drive one and then you’ll know. Cheers everyone.
Keep what you've got Alex! You can't go wrong with Steeda's help! If you want a road course Mustang, a 6 speed manual will always be a driving pleasure. You CAN make the GT a really nice road rally car. Isn't that what you said you wanted?
No contest: If Mustang GT go 10 speed because the updated MT82 is not that improved I am not buying that it is. If Darkhorse got to go Tremec because that trans is GREAT!
I have a s550 mustang gt pp1 w an auto mafia ported intake,e85 vmp tune,87 fuel injectors ,cat back ex and i know it looks better to me and it is fast,eat a dark horse for breakfast and the gt for dinner,i don't need a new one.already tried to win a car from stangmode and he wont let me win so ill keep mine.Oh i also have 315 on back 255 on front and the shelby stripes,best looking mustang on road,still love ya keep up the good work.
I have a 23 Mach 1 with a 10 speed. We will probably trade it in a couple years if they keep making the dark horse and get one with a tremec. I don't race but want to be one with the car. I regret not get the tremec in Mach 1. I won't pay a penny over MSRP. Hopefully in a couple years they ramp up production and the dark horse is easy to get for msrp..
Darkhorse is definitely nasty! I love my 23 Mach1 though especially having the eruption green because it’s a rare color! Ford did great with the 24’s though!
Darkhorse is a name suckers are going to fall for before realizing a regular mustang with the aftermarket can make a far cheaper just as good performing mustang. It's like my base model S550 Mustang GT out performing premium and performance packs because the items that make a premium ,or performance pack can be cheaper acquired through the aftermarket .
What did they do to the 10 speed .... there is a lawsuit pending on 2023 down .The clutch hub and the valve body are causing total trans failure. The ecu tuning is not going to fix faulty hardware.GM and Ford are using the same trans in cars and trucks. Reply !
I just purchased a 24 gt premium 400A 10 speed auto performance pack active exhaust nite pony pack that makes 486 at the crank. It was 58k. To me to get just 14 more horses wasn’t worth the money. Especially since I’m looking to supercharge it.
@@seanh6127 I spec'd out a GT Premium with everything I could to make it equivalent to the DH Premium (the GT was still missing things, too, like diff oil coolers and other functional items). The MSRP difference was only $7,025. In the grand scheme of things, I think it's worth it, especially if you're going to do more with it than just putz around town.
The DarkHorse specific,required trofeo tires are over $300 per...without those tires. IT'S NOT DARKHORSE. without those specific tires RIDE,HANDLING, PERFORMANCE, BRAKING BECOME PLAIN OL' MUSTANG GT.
2points...(1st)Driving enthusiasts DON'T RIDE IN AUTOMATICS....(2nd)I predict low sales and high used car inventory of the DarkHorse Mustang...why...NO ONE IS GOING TO PAY THE INCREDIBLY HIGH PRICE FOR FREQUENT TIRE REPLACEMENT.
Because it's a fun driving experience and it's preferred by purists to each their own but just because whom has a different driving preference doesn't entitle you to call it crap ,the auto is faster who cares the manual gives the driver more feedback and that's all that matters for some people
First thing I noticed on my 23 Cali was the paddle shifting. It is much better than previous years. Had a 2020 and 2018. On a side note, them shifts are crisp.
Bought a Darkhorse this past weekend, it's a great wine and the original Darkhorse in which the name and emblem was stolen by Ford. As far as the Darkhorse car, you are paying for a S550 MACH 1 with a digital dash....complete rip off.
Long time Ford buyer. I’ve bought 10 new fords since 06, 3 being Mustang gts. Bang for the buck was a major priority. Currently have a 19 gt, 21 Explorer xlt, 23 Maverick xlt hybrid. Same cars now are not a bang for the buck. 68k for an na mustang is ridiculous. Ford your dealership have 50k+ mustangs, 60k plus f150, 40k maverick sitting. Please don’t force us to go to another manufacturer.
I'll sell you a low mileage 2019 GT Premium 400A car with the 10R80, and 3:55 rear end. It's nearly paid for. Fair Market Value. How upside down are you?
The DH is truly a car that can't be evaluated by specs. It must be driven. It has a very unique and wheel balanced feel in curves. To best describe if a GT350 has a race car feel the DH has a European exotic feel. Then the Coyote and Tremec just amp it up.
@@FastLane-Grip but the 350 was an overall better car it’s lighter makes more power and is overall a better track machine. The only reason the dark horse has been performing better on the track than even a Mach 1 is because of the trofeo tires
@MrPrime269 Not sure why people always say tires tires tires. Downforce and suspension setup keeps tires in contact with the road. DH has more downforce than Mach 1. Of course the GT350 is a better track car but the DH is no slouch.
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Your passenger has no expressions 😂. Like Weekend at Bernie’s!
I have a Mach1 with handling package etc.. The Dark Horse has really grown on me, but I think I will stick with my Mach1. Probably😬
Mach1 and dark horse are on par with each other, same car except for the dashboard, your car is better IMO, you'll get further with tuning.
I snagged a Dark Horse Premium a couple months ago. Got that ultra dark grey color (almost looks black) and a stick. Immediately ordered the complimentary Ford Performance blower and exhaust. Have the handling kit coming from Steeda. Still have to upgrade the wheels and tires, though.
GO BABY GO!!
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Good video Alex. I am in agreement! Ford engineers say that the Dark Horse has the most down-force of any Mustang so far. It will not take much to get it to 500 rwhp as NA car. I look forward to being able to install the ESS.
Cheers 👍👊💪🇺🇸
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Totally understand your argument to aftermarket a car to your own specs to possibly achieve a better car. Wish I had your knowledge and the mechanic ability to do it myself. But, as you mentioned, most of us don't have that savvy. We kind of need to buy our performance in tack. The Dark Horse seem to be the ticket.
Alex, Your dealer friend wants to sell you another Mustang. Either a Dark Horse, or at least another GT with the 10R80. I'm an old man. I learned to drive on a manual 3 on the tree. I even prefer a manual in my big rig, and asked for it to be ordered with a manual, but the 10R80 was the way to go for my Mustang, after Ford bought back my MT82. I don't regret ordering the 10R80 in the least. I'm surprised that you went back to the MT82.
8:12 I would not buy another Mustang GT with a manual as long as it has the M82 transmission. Only 4 usable gears that are too widely spaced, along with the same old Getreg issues are still there. As much as I love rowing through the gears, the 10R80 is just a much better transmission that pairs well with the high revving nature of the Coyote, making it much faster. Getting a Dark Horse with a Tremec vs 10R80 would be a much tougher decison, for the same reasons you mentioned in the video. If trackng the DH on a road course, the Tremec and Recaros would be a really great combo.
Thanks for the video on the DH . Looks like y’all are having fun up north with Stang Mode . I’ve just about got the 1,000 mile break in on my DH . I’ll drive it up to your part of the world soon for the Cruise In Season. You remember where . See you soon I hope .
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You made the right choice... Be strong Zander, be strong Zander... Lol.. Nice video
Its a built motor version of a motor that already takes 8-900whp to the face "unopened" as long as you're not shifting at 8k kissing limiter... Once the prices cool down it will be the mustang to get for modders that don't want to get into dealing with engine builders... anyone who thinks that is a pleasant experience has likely never done it yet :D
That Darkhorse also come with rear differential coolers and Trans coolers oil coolers you don’t have on your GT and will be at least $2k plus a lot of labor install and the amount of additional protection they give you is Major!!
Very true
So a Mach 1 with the handling package but with different body panels and an extra 10 -15k mark up
and a bit heavier, so its slower to 60 mph.
So what suspension setting would you say compared to the aftermarket setup in yours?
What?
I test drove a 6spd dark horse Monday and I was blown away at the driving experience compared to the 24’ GT. I didn’t expect much of a power difference but there was lol.
Most of the people on here with all these negative comments about the Dark Horse probably have never driven one. Just calling it a rebranded Mach 1 and a more expensive GT have no basis for the comparison other than You Tube. Go sit in one and drive it and then talk about it.
Agreed. Just got my handling pack 6speed DH and let me tell you. It ain’t a Mustang. It’s glorious to drive. And I come from long list of everything performance. I had a 600 wheel C6Z in 2008. Just sold my C7Z for the DH. Can’t wait for my whipple to get here. Anybody reading this and contemplating the car like I did. Just drive one and then you’ll know. Cheers everyone.
That face when the word "carnage" was spoken!! 🤣
You don't need that kind of ju ju on ya!!
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Keep what you've got Alex! You can't go wrong with Steeda's help! If you want a road course Mustang, a 6 speed manual will always be a driving pleasure. You CAN make the GT a really nice road rally car. Isn't that what you said you wanted?
He don’t keep them 6 months I’ve been here since 2018
@@BitcoinTo100K 2018. Me too.
No contest: If Mustang GT go 10 speed because the updated MT82 is not that improved I am not buying that it is. If Darkhorse got to go Tremec because that trans is GREAT!
I have a s550 mustang gt pp1 w an auto mafia ported intake,e85 vmp tune,87 fuel injectors ,cat back ex and i know it looks better to me and it is fast,eat a dark horse for breakfast and the gt for dinner,i don't need a new one.already tried to win a car from stangmode and he wont let me win so ill keep mine.Oh i also have 315 on back 255 on front and the shelby stripes,best looking mustang on road,still love ya keep up the good work.
Eat it in the curves or straight line stuff? DH is fun handling, not red light racer.
I have a 23 Mach 1 with a 10 speed. We will probably trade it in a couple years if they keep making the dark horse and get one with a tremec. I don't race but want to be one with the car. I regret not get the tremec in Mach 1. I won't pay a penny over MSRP. Hopefully in a couple years they ramp up production and the dark horse is easy to get for msrp..
3 local dealers in my area are all 3k BELOW MSRP right now. The DH isn't selling here in central Ohio very well.
Darkhorse is definitely nasty! I love my 23 Mach1 though especially having the eruption green because it’s a rare color! Ford did great with the 24’s though!
Darkhorse has forged internals supposedly… should have higher potential when boosted without building the motor.
To me the S650 doesn't look as tough and as bad as the S550. I don't hate the S650...I just prefer the S550; it's perfect!
Darkhorse is a name suckers are going to fall for before realizing a regular mustang with the aftermarket can make a far cheaper just as good performing mustang. It's like my base model S550 Mustang GT out performing premium and performance packs because the items that make a premium ,or performance pack can be cheaper acquired through the aftermarket .
Gt and build it!
without the tunning capabilities, the Darkhorse is the better buy, because it's got most of what you'll will need to be happy.
That's true, but they can be tuned.
Does the OEM S650 GT and DH suffer from wheel hope like the S550 does?
Yes
What did they do to the 10 speed .... there is a lawsuit pending on 2023 down .The clutch hub and the valve body are causing total trans failure. The ecu tuning is not going to fix faulty hardware.GM and Ford are using the same trans in cars and trucks. Reply !
I just purchased a 24 gt premium 400A 10 speed auto performance pack active exhaust nite pony pack that makes 486 at the crank. It was 58k. To me to get just 14 more horses wasn’t worth the money. Especially since I’m looking to supercharge it.
If you think all the DH gives you is 14 more horses, you haven't done your research.
@@bobbybarnes1652 I know what else you get I’m just saying I don’t think it’s worth the extra money.
@@seanh6127 I spec'd out a GT Premium with everything I could to make it equivalent to the DH Premium (the GT was still missing things, too, like diff oil coolers and other functional items). The MSRP difference was only $7,025. In the grand scheme of things, I think it's worth it, especially if you're going to do more with it than just putz around town.
The DarkHorse specific,required trofeo tires are over $300 per...without those tires. IT'S NOT DARKHORSE. without those specific tires RIDE,HANDLING, PERFORMANCE, BRAKING BECOME PLAIN OL' MUSTANG GT.
2points...(1st)Driving enthusiasts DON'T RIDE IN AUTOMATICS....(2nd)I predict low sales and high used car inventory of the DarkHorse Mustang...why...NO ONE IS GOING TO PAY THE INCREDIBLY HIGH PRICE FOR FREQUENT TIRE REPLACEMENT.
3 DH's new in my local area, all are under 3k BELOW MSRP, nobody in central Ohio seems to want em. All 3 have the Tremec too.
You ever get the quad tip Corsa on the red car?
Yes. Video soon
What's the speed limiter set at from the factory on a Dark Horse?
I didn’t look unfortunately. Filmed this about 2 weeks ago and I’m back home in TN now.
99% sure it's 168 mph
Don't worry bro, the Darkhorse will prove it's worth as soon as it can be tuned...
The wheels suck. It needs better looking wheels. Beside that, it’s a beast
Nope! My Dark horse is the 6 speed Tremec and I have no regrets.
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Love the opening bro !
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Why these youtube people insist on pushing the ancient manual transmission? I am tired of the same crap.
Because it's a fun driving experience and it's preferred by purists to each their own but just because whom has a different driving preference doesn't entitle you to call it crap ,the auto is faster who cares the manual gives the driver more feedback and that's all that matters for some people
Zander : buy a Dark Horse
First thing I noticed on my 23 Cali was the paddle shifting. It is much better than previous years. Had a 2020 and 2018. On a side note, them shifts are crisp.
Yes. I’m seriously impressed with what Ford has done
Bought a Darkhorse this past weekend, it's a great wine and the original Darkhorse in which the name and emblem was stolen by Ford. As far as the Darkhorse car, you are paying for a S550 MACH 1 with a digital dash....complete rip off.
Hey just installed the lethal performance fuel system today. Thanks for the video. It helped a ton.
Very welcome
Lol...until you start spending 300 per tire twice a year...that's $2400 for tires every year. No it's not worth it with the DarkHorse.
We need more f150 videos
Long time Ford buyer. I’ve bought 10 new fords since 06, 3 being Mustang gts. Bang for the buck was a major priority. Currently have a 19 gt, 21 Explorer xlt, 23 Maverick xlt hybrid. Same cars now are not a bang for the buck. 68k for an na mustang is ridiculous. Ford your dealership have 50k+ mustangs, 60k plus f150, 40k maverick sitting. Please don’t force us to go to another manufacturer.
Trade the red mustang in for a darkhorse.
I'll sell you a low mileage 2019 GT Premium 400A car with the 10R80, and 3:55 rear end. It's nearly paid for. Fair Market Value. How upside down are you?
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$68k for a BASE dark horse is stupid. It’s the same engine as a regular GT
Go do some homework and come back.
The 2024 mustang gt steering wheel looks like hot garbage 🗑
The dark horse is a major disappointment
The DH is truly a car that can't be evaluated by specs. It must be driven. It has a very unique and wheel balanced feel in curves. To best describe if a GT350 has a race car feel the DH has a European exotic feel. Then the Coyote and Tremec just amp it up.
@@FastLane-Grip but the 350 was an overall better car it’s lighter makes more power and is overall a better track machine. The only reason the dark horse has been performing better on the track than even a Mach 1 is because of the trofeo tires
@MrPrime269 Not sure why people always say tires tires tires. Downforce and suspension setup keeps tires in contact with the road. DH has more downforce than Mach 1. Of course the GT350 is a better track car but the DH is no slouch.
Yeah we already knew this a year ago