MZTV 1620: Billy Graham's Last Words; A Critique

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  • @JonHarrod77
    @JonHarrod77 26 дней назад +18

    Funny story. My dad, mom and sister went to see Billy Graham at a stadium in the 90's. I didn't go because I always felt the BS coming from him. My sister is disabled so they got good seats and were pretty close to the side of the stage. My dad said that Graham went up to speak and the music and singers kept going, apparently he had walked up a bit too soon.
    Graham yelled at a few people to cut the music and got pretty mad. The mic was on and some of the audience heard it. Once the music was over Graham went into the public speaker "humility" act, and dad said the act was very obvious because he switched it on right in front of him.
    Christianity as it is presented now is just an obvious acting job. That is where Martin made so much sense to me and eventually I got it. I saw the fakeness from about age 8 and rejected it naturally, but it wasn't until age 45 that someone vocalized why I was rejecting it. Thanks Martin! Hugely appreciate your work.

    • @TazyBibleBloke
      @TazyBibleBloke 25 дней назад +1

      Similar to my experience as an 18 year old lad in a charasmaniac church. We had a visiting pastor who had a "healing ministry". I responded to his altar call, dunno why, as from memory l wasn't suck but maybe l had a cold.
      He called me out and said "young man, l'm going to pray for your back". My back was perfectly fine. "Komabattacammaramma, be healed in Jeeesus name!". He then asked me how my back was. I responded "it's fine". "Hallelujah, praise the Lord" he responded with about 1,000 clapping and cheering. I, being a naive 18 year old new Christian, didn't have the heart to call him out.

  • @Robert_Eveland
    @Robert_Eveland 26 дней назад +16

    I waited until 8:50 a.m. for the email announcing what Father had for me this morning. It was a reminder that back in 1967 I had been led into a Billy Graham evangelistic showing of the Christian message of salvation, wherein I spent the next forty-plus years. I moved from one preacher to the next, never knowing the gospel given to Paul, never knowing justification. The Navigators, Rex Humbard, Jimmy Swaggart, Harold Camping, and so many ministries for Christ, but never knowing Him. Then Father revealed Himself through His Word, through the person of Martin Zender. So I wait each morning to hear what Father has to say to me, through him and His Word.

    • @zendermeister
      @zendermeister  26 дней назад +1

      Dear Robert, I'm sorry that you had to wait so long for it this morning! But thank you for sharing this testimony. Wow, what an appropriate testimony for today. All of those men and organizations, I am afraid, belong in the same category. It is astounding, as 2wildboar23 says above, that these men and organization threaten the human race with A LIE, that is, eternal separation from God. I don't think we are able to calculate the damage. Thank you both for your patience and for sharing this amazing testimony.

  • @2wildboar23
    @2wildboar23 26 дней назад +15

    There is not one single verse in all of God’s word that threatens people with “eternity“.
    And yet this is the very foundation/battle cry of Christians. They run around threatening humanity with “eternity“.
    It all continues to be so mind blowing.

    • @JKBelle
      @JKBelle 26 дней назад

      Because it makes them feel proud about earning their own ticket 🎫 in their mind and us poor ole ignorant weak Grace slobs being the lesser.

    • @caroleevandyk5544
      @caroleevandyk5544 25 дней назад +4

      Ain’t that so! The scarcity of critical thinking and the predominance of self-righteousness is stunning, all to show that God calls the shots and unless HE drags us to Himself, we will never get it. It’s all about God and His glory, not us and our ability to make the right choice.

  • @donaldhandy1060
    @donaldhandy1060 26 дней назад +12

    I remember feeling so burdened inadequate and condemned everytime I listened to him when I was growing up

    • @CzechcanaSATX
      @CzechcanaSATX 25 дней назад +1

      Exactly! Hi Don, I've been swollen from Facebook for quite awhile,,
      I hope you're doing ok my brother

    • @donaldhandy1060
      @donaldhandy1060 25 дней назад

      @CzechcanaSATX I'm doing fine Nancy So good to hear from you I've missed you

  • @dawng.2919
    @dawng.2919 26 дней назад +13

    Good morning my beautiful family! 🕊️💕

  • @2wildboar23
    @2wildboar23 26 дней назад +11

    Human beings do not “decide“ or “choose“ their “eternity“. Human beings do not “determine” their “eternity“.
    Human beings are going to have immortality, incorruption and “eternal life“ with God and Christ-> BECAUSE OF WHAT CHRIST ACCOMPLISHED AT THE CROSS--> not because of humanity believing, or choosing, or loving, or doing, or repenting, or feeling, or praying, or working, or accepting, or obeying, or trusting, or baptizing, or singing, or meditating, or churching, etc.

    • @wendymirth2159
      @wendymirth2159 26 дней назад +2

      YES!

    • @caroleevandyk5544
      @caroleevandyk5544 25 дней назад +4

      Well said! All these are action verbs indicating human activity. How are they not works?

  • @jenniferweiss4734
    @jenniferweiss4734 26 дней назад +12

    Martin, thank you for sharing this video with us. God is absolutely in control of everything big and small, and Christ Jesus took care of our sins and old humanity 2000 years ago. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤. Your videos are a blessing to the body of Christ and new subscribers watching as well.

    • @zendermeister
      @zendermeister  26 дней назад +4

      Thank you, Jennifer. I hope I haven't turned away TOO many people today, those who hold "Dr. Graham" in great esteem as a Christian icon.

  • @CzechcanaSATX
    @CzechcanaSATX 25 дней назад +6

    At the end of his life, he did ponder about God saving all..... as horribly wrong as he was, I do believe he was sincere in his desire to get the multitudes 'saved'...
    the TV scam artists know damn well they are lying
    Just my opinion

  • @karljuergenczieszka9826
    @karljuergenczieszka9826 26 дней назад +9

    Thank you bro Martin for the Truth .
    God put me on the right path to not believe in free will.
    God is the Potter and we are the Clay.
    Grace and Peace to all the Saints.

  • @ChessArmyCommander
    @ChessArmyCommander 26 дней назад +10

    I always say its going to be a bitter/sweet realization for Christians at the Great White Throne. Bitter due to being wrong or in trouble. Sweet because they'll see that the truth of God and Christ is way better than they thought! 🤗

  • @simonundergrace
    @simonundergrace 26 дней назад +6

    Your last words say it all. We are so blessed to have been given what we have by our God and Father.

  • @donaldkgarman296
    @donaldkgarman296 26 дней назад +12

    GOOD MORNING BODY OF CHRIST

  • @robertlakey
    @robertlakey 26 дней назад +9

    Cannot bring myself to judge him that harshly. If God wrote all of his sermons, and chose him to deliver them (assuming your view of God's sovereignty is correct), it seems to me he did his job well, just like Satan does, and "applause will be coming" to him from God (1 Corinthians 4:5) for doing such a good job in the role he played in God's sovereign plan. And, he will be justified, saved, reconciled, and glorified - just like all of the rest of us. Just thinking out loud.

    • @caroleevandyk5544
      @caroleevandyk5544 25 дней назад +7

      Maybe Graham will be somewhat relieved and happy that he was wrong, while seeing he missed the boat. It will be glorious to see him eventually gladly acclaiming that God is that good that He has the ability to turn all His enemies and indifferent non believers into grateful, worshipping and loving friends. Every hell believer l have spoken with is always indicating some measure of regret about eternal conscious torment and that even if they wish it weren’t so, they can’t avoid it. But it is still hypocritical to say you wish it weren’t so and yet defend it and not bother to more carefully investigate this issue. But, all part of the plan.

    • @2wildboar23
      @2wildboar23 25 дней назад +2

      So did Paul “harshly judge” the troublers of the Galatians? Fatalism?
      What about the relative perspective?

    • @michaelworshamGodisLove
      @michaelworshamGodisLove 25 дней назад

      Haha great point

    • @robertlakey
      @robertlakey 25 дней назад +1

      @@2wildboar23 Paul the apostle did, yes, inspired by God. Are you suggesting MZ is an apostle? or his teaching is inspired by God like Paul? Just asking - OK by me if you think so but I do not. The Word of God was completed with the revelations given to Paul as I view the Scripture.

    • @2wildboar23
      @2wildboar23 25 дней назад +1

      @@robertlakey
      What does Paul being an apostle have to do with us embracing sound doctrine in the Scriptures and sharing it with people?

  • @Zedek_PhD
    @Zedek_PhD 25 дней назад +3

    This is one of my favorite MZTV episodes of the year! The Christian Gospel as it’s taught truly is the Cartoon Gospel. If I can stream Tom and Jerry seeing cartoon references of the things Billy taught; it’s the Cartoon Gospel. Not the true Gospel of Grace

  • @MarvelNot
    @MarvelNot 25 дней назад +3

    Billy: "Heavenly Father....I believe you've died for my sins."
    Nope. The God and Father of Jesus did not die for your sins. Jesus did.

  • @lisadisme
    @lisadisme 26 дней назад +9

    i remember going to see Billy..i was at around my 100th round of repentance after being a Christian for a year or so..that repentance probably lasted a day or so.."Just As I Am"..lol

    • @zendermeister
      @zendermeister  26 дней назад +4

      Wow. You actually saw the man. I bet that many on this channel can speak of their "100th round" of repentance. Thank you for the testimony, Lisa.

    • @lisadisme
      @lisadisme 25 дней назад

      @zendermeister by the time I wasn't a Christian anymore the # of times repenting exceeded 70x7..🎡 👈closest emoji to a hamster wheel

  • @jhq9064
    @jhq9064 26 дней назад +5

    When it's played, this video is 25 minutes and 46 seconds (25:46 of the first gospel account...), how ironic???

  • @Roc-Righteous
    @Roc-Righteous 25 дней назад +3

    Dang, you hit it on the nail..Amen Zender. btw, even if he does preach Paul's gospel, he and ignorant followers will pervert it, law, works, baptism etc etc etc

  • @paulakruiswijk5985
    @paulakruiswijk5985 26 дней назад +8

    So outspoken, with so much humour again and so the Truth! Thank you God for you!

    • @zendermeister
      @zendermeister  26 дней назад +4

      Thank you, Paula. I feel good about it and bad at the same time. 😳

  • @matthewmichaelson9806
    @matthewmichaelson9806 26 дней назад +10

    Good morning, vessels of honor!

    • @dawng.2919
      @dawng.2919 26 дней назад +1

      @@matthewmichaelson9806 Good morning 🌞

    • @caroleevandyk5544
      @caroleevandyk5544 25 дней назад +2

      Hi Matthew, l’m a flower vase, what are you?🤣

    • @matthewmichaelson9806
      @matthewmichaelson9806 25 дней назад

      @@caroleevandyk5544 Just an artesian terra cotta filled with faith made of diamonds. ✌️N ♥️ to you in Christ, sister 👍

    • @caroleevandyk5544
      @caroleevandyk5544 25 дней назад +1

      @@matthewmichaelson9806 Love it!

  • @joshblahnamehere2308
    @joshblahnamehere2308 25 дней назад +1

    So many bombs in this one. Knocking it out of the park Martin!

  • @maxephort663
    @maxephort663 25 дней назад +3

    Grew up being taught that this guy was THE standard. Something always felt off, like TBN, 700 Club off.
    A MISFIRE for sure! Thanks for having the balls to expose, rebuke and entreat...for all the right reasons. Courage my man! Hopefully this will startle some to question things and think for themselves, to sober up out of the trap.
    Much Love Sir.
    Grace & Peace!

  • @undergrace722
    @undergrace722 26 дней назад +9

    🔷Grace and Peace🔷

  • @GregUniRec
    @GregUniRec 26 дней назад +5

    Wonderful critique of a God awful message. Because there are so many deceived people in the world, there must be expositors of truth to show them the truth. This truth is that God, through His Son Jesus Christ, is already at peace with the world, not counting anyone's sins against them (2Co.5:19). He gave us this message to spread to an unknowing, unloving world (2Co.5:18).
    Having said that, maybe we should cut ole Billy some slack. After all, like the Pharisees before him, he is doing the work of his father, the devil (Joh.8:44).

    • @zendermeister
      @zendermeister  26 дней назад +1

      Yep. That's exactly why I cut him some slack---but not 'til the end of the video after I'd listened to myself rant for twenty minutes. Still---I can't take back the rant.

    • @GregUniRec
      @GregUniRec 26 дней назад +1

      @@zendermeister 👍👍 You gave him all the slack he deserves.

    • @lenpaganelli1395
      @lenpaganelli1395 25 дней назад +1

      Hi Martin,
      When you do this, you remind me of Nick Nolte’s performance in the movie, “Blue Chip”. He comes into the locker room at half time, and goes bat shit, knocking water coolers down and silencing everyone in the locker room.
      Sometimes, that is what it takes.
      That, and the poses of Billy Graham with the Bible over his head. This was a great one and I thank you for it. We all need the clarity of smelling salts like a fighter between rounds to wake him up to the fight he is in, to get him to go back and fight until the fight is over.

    • @2wildboar23
      @2wildboar23 25 дней назад +3

      Cut him some slack?
      Billy Graham threatened people with “eternal pain in Hell”? Uh, hello?

    • @GregUniRec
      @GregUniRec 25 дней назад +2

      @@2wildboar23 I was being sarcastic, in case that wasn't clear. 🙂

  • @bernhardkarels3251
    @bernhardkarels3251 25 дней назад +3

    Once i was doubting if the Cristians belonged to the body of the Christ and it came to me that also the muslims got it wrong.
    They even as christians:
    mimic the man what was most holy in there religion to come close to their god.
    Have to do prayers to have an 'relationship' with their God.
    Both say they cant deserve salvation but live like they do.
    I think it is a big difference to believe in Jesus or to believe in The risen Christ.

  • @R.L.Buick.
    @R.L.Buick. 26 дней назад +3

    Good morning, all.
    Zender, at the 16:30 mark . . .
    The opposite of euphemism is dysphemism.
    Good job, MZ. Keep it up.

  • @GoedBericht4U
    @GoedBericht4U 26 дней назад +1

    The last week no transcript of the video is shown. Is there a reason for that?

  • @nonelost1
    @nonelost1 25 дней назад +2

    Love this video, Martin, but human willpower is not free will, it is SLAVE will, aka “bondage.” (just ask anybody who has tried dieting) Only God has free will. Also, the only reason Nebuchadnezzar was “smarter than Billy Graham“ was by the sovereignty of God. As a heathen king, he was taking all the credit for everything in Babylon that was built by “his hand.” But only after being made to live like the wild beasts for “seven times,” was he finally able to pull his head out of his ass and acknowledge the sovereignty of God.“

  • @teejosh9550
    @teejosh9550 26 дней назад +1

    Thanks to God for his mercy on us to know the true work of salvation his son brought to us. 😃. Do you know that many Megachurches are still swimming in the false teaching of this man? What a bad precedent from this poor man!

  • @TazyBibleBloke
    @TazyBibleBloke 25 дней назад +1

    His grandson, Will Graham, came down to Tasmania last year. A friend talked me into going there, and l went with both my kids and my sons friend. Don't ask me why l did this, but in hindsight, it wasn't my best idea. Along with many youth, who were emotionally coherst, my kids went down when he made his alter call. Now my friend told me "congratulations your children are now saved". It was a typical hell fire presentation more like he was selling a fire insurance policy
    I have read a lengthy book that claims that Billy Graham was a pa#doph×le.
    I've done so many dumb things in my life but that's up there for stupidity eh

    • @chrismiller1183
      @chrismiller1183 24 дня назад

      Wow! The Grahams have a "family" franchise operation...who would have thought?
      Don't be too hard on yourself, brother, chalk it up for another lesson in CONTRAST.
      Religion vs. Grace.
      Glad you and I know the difference...Amen?

  • @KieranDarby1990
    @KieranDarby1990 25 дней назад +1

    Hey brother. I believe all have already be saved, those who haven’t been quickened, ie., led to the knowledge of the truth just don’t realise it, yet!
    I fully believe and understand that the lake of fire serves a purpose and is a purification process, however; by no means does the scripture teach eternal torment.
    Any doctrine about God including teachings on judgment and punishment must be consistent with his love.
    The question that I’m gaining more understanding with at the moment is how do we encourage those to believe in Jesus as there are certain scriptures like (Matthew 11:28) that state come to me all ye that labour and heavy burden and I will give you rest. Plus, (Matthew 28:19-20).
    Also, anyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved. (Romans 10:13).
    I don’t believe that the kind of repentance religion teaches where when we sin and fall short we must repent the way they teach. The love of God leads us to repentance. (Romans 2:4).
    We are all sinners and we sin daily through, thought, word, and deed due to the sin nature of Adam which was already in our fathers plan for us to fall, so that Jesus would be revealed to the world and for us to be saved? (Romans 8:20).
    I don’t claim to be right about everything and still fairly new in new in my journey with Jesus due to being led to the knowledge of the truth in 2019. I hunger for more truth and understanding and have been studying the Hebrew and Greek text. The sovereignty of God, “forever, everlasting, eternity and aionios life, future eions, etc!”
    So my question is how do we shared, encourage those to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ knowing that God has created vessels of dishonour for a specific purpose. (Romans 9:21-23).
    We, as the body of Christ have been given the ministry of reconciliation and I believe preaching grace, love, peace, and reconciliation is part of our ministry.
    I’ve come from religion, in which I’m no longer part of, and quickly come to the realisation that they peach a different Jesus to the one Paul preached.
    I preach all have been forgiven 2,000 years ago and that Jesus loves us all regardless if he has led us to believe in him, yet, or not.
    Thank you for your content. I really appreciate you speaking the truth and encouraging us with the truth.

    • @chrismiller1183
      @chrismiller1183 24 дня назад

      Kieran...wonderful to hear God's got you on the right track!
      Have you read Martin's book, The First Idiot in Heaven?
      That book ties together many loose ends...really like no other. God bless you with greater revelation.

  • @TheMotivationalMovie
    @TheMotivationalMovie 26 дней назад +1

    Truth is Truth!!! Awkward Unpleasantness Aside. Most of my family in the Philippines are locked up in the insanity of Catholic & Christian Religious Insanity. I love them so much, but they are off the rails in their constant delusion of reality. Jesus, Alone, is Saving them...and they don't even know it.
    Nevertheless, like everyone, they will eventually know the true Jesus Christ and the True God of ALL. Common sense is not for everyone; I believed the BS for 58 years of my life. I attended a Billy Graham crusade in Portland, Oregon. Johnny & June Carter-Cash were also there. Of course, I ran to the alter of Christian Hypnosis to confess my sins and beg forgiveness there, like I had done 100's of times (apparently, I was never able to altogether remove sin on my own, from Sunday Service to Sunday Service, a lot of sinning, oh, well, such is humanity). I spent my whole life in terror of their BS fake "Hell". Thank you, Martin, for always keeping it real.

  • @michaelworshamGodisLove
    @michaelworshamGodisLove 25 дней назад +1

    I think you must have humility and respect and understanding when you speak of someone like Billy Graham and not so harshly condemn him and I believe he thought he was doing what God told him to do even though it might have been through ignorance.. I definitely don't think he intentionally provided it and a lot of people's lives were changed for the good and they heard of Christ love and redemption on the cross even though it was mixed with contradictory ideas that are actually found in Scripture..and the simple message of just praying asking... I have been in this deconstruction it's been so hard wanting to believe the completely good news but yet so much of this fear and torment and rejection is so deeply ingrained that I never can fully let It go and the absolutely confident one of the reasons is because you know the whole idea that the majority of Christians love Billy Graham and you know you're hitting yourself against the majority and most people that have a lot of soul sickness like I did you know can't really survive and isolation without a body of believers you know somebody to have fellowship with I speak from my own experience there when I left the church because of the doctrine of eternal damnation..but anyway if your words aren't seasoned with Grace whether it's a comment on here if it's not spoken in love it's nothing you're missing the gentleness in the grace that you are speaking of... It's easy to speak of humility and speaking the truth in love but it's quite another thing to live that so so I just wanted to interject that Dad speaking of Christ or one of the apostles said he would not even bring a railing accusation

  • @vernmiller4175
    @vernmiller4175 26 дней назад +1

    Hello good morning body of Christ
    Is anyone else watching mztv with young children.?

    • @zendermeister
      @zendermeister  26 дней назад

      I hope I didn't cuss today! 😳

    • @vernmiller4175
      @vernmiller4175 25 дней назад +2

      @zendermeister I like to watch your videos to get a deeper understanding of scripture. However I wld like to watch it with my children, but man I don't want to show them graphics of naked ppl. Or we may be watching and I'm struggling to shut it off because the speaker is
      Using what I call cuss words.
      Correct if I'm wrong but we shouldn't have to sensor it before the children watch it if it is in line with sriptture??? Or did they leave the children at home when they went to listen to the apostle Paul preach???
      Please I wld like to here back from you what do you recommend us to do????

    • @tinner87
      @tinner87 25 дней назад +1

      @@vernmiller4175 vern, little over dramatic there don't you think? as a parent of three i would vet a show. you know, watch it first before my kids did. you don't have to watch MZTV first thing in the morning you know that right? it is YOUR job vern, to shield your kids, not Martins and not mine but YOURS. I do not ever remember Martin promising a G rated message.
      sooooo, you don't want your kids to see adult content, don't let them!...simple stuff. quit trying to conform other people into the way you think they should be. there are plenty of MZTV shows that are kid friendly to teach by, do YOUR job vern.

    • @Marlene-k8f
      @Marlene-k8f 25 дней назад

      I think vern asked a valuable question please keep your answers valuable, and with love. No need to get all hateful.

    • @tinner87
      @tinner87 25 дней назад

      @@Marlene-k8f that’s funny Marlene, I think I gave Vern some valuable advice. Whose job is it Marlene to shield Vern’s kids? If you read what I said as hateful that is on you.

  • @lisaholcomb8753
    @lisaholcomb8753 25 дней назад +3

    I don’t disagree with you on every point, but where is the love of God in you? I understand how you see yourself just by what you said at the end; however, you are old enough that you could have spoken your thoughts directly to Billy Graham without assassinating his character after his death. If you are going to use Paul as an example, he wasn’t a coward and he spoke directly to the person or persons he was rebuking.
    A point worth making doesn’t require tearing down another. Without love your words are worthless Martin.

    • @lisaholcomb8753
      @lisaholcomb8753 25 дней назад +2

      Directly from Paul himself in 1 Corinthians 13:1
      If I speak in tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.

    • @2wildboar23
      @2wildboar23 25 дней назад

      @@lisaholcomb8753
      Also from 1Cor13:6- “Love rejoices in the truth.”

    • @2wildboar23
      @2wildboar23 25 дней назад

      @@lisaholcomb8753
      Billy Graham told millions of people that our good and loving Creator is going to “burn people in Hell forever”. Hello?

    • @michaelworshamGodisLove
      @michaelworshamGodisLove 25 дней назад

      Exactly I totally agree

    • @michaelworshamGodisLove
      @michaelworshamGodisLove 25 дней назад +1

      Exactly a noisy brass or a tinkling cymbal without love it's all worthless

  • @michaelworshamGodisLove
    @michaelworshamGodisLove 25 дней назад +1

    Be careful little eyes what you see as the character defects and others.. especially to speak of it with such flippancy and sarcasm.. this is not speaking the truth in love and humilityfor out of the abundance of the heart a man perceives

  • @maryy2121
    @maryy2121 26 дней назад +2

    ❤️❤️❤️

  • @MCRousseau-777
    @MCRousseau-777 24 дня назад

    I pray that the spirit of drunkenness and pridefulness leave you in the Name of Jesus the Christ and be replaced by soberness and humility. Amen

  • @michaelworshamGodisLove
    @michaelworshamGodisLove 25 дней назад

    Well if Jesus is not God why did the Angels pronounce at the announcement of his birth and you shall call his name wonderful counselor almighty God the everlasting father the Prince of Peace??????????

  • @taylorwolfman
    @taylorwolfman 26 дней назад +8

    You are a best seller among the BOC brother! High tight we are almost there!🤍🤍🤍🤍🤍

    • @zendermeister
      @zendermeister  26 дней назад

      Thank you, Taylor. Amen, we're almost there. I sure appreciate the "hang tight" exhortation. Getting harder every day.