I have a 2017 VFR800F RC93 and I agree that over the 6th gen the improvements are not gigantic in terms of engine performance and handling but: you have a fresh look with led headlights and mirrors, gear indicator and heated grips as standard, traction control, abs (not combined anymore), a smoother vtec transition, gorgeous rims, radial calipers, self canceling indicators.
@ralphwarom2514 I would say so, maybe minor but they are plenty. I forgot about OEM quickshifter as an option, just ordered one and can't wait to test it. These are not available anymore and I was super lucky to find one in an old stock.
Got to love the VFR's and their predecessor the VF variants from the early and mid 80's I presently own a nicely restored 1984 Honda VF700F in Freddie Spencer red, white and blue. Had the same model in 750cc back in my days in the Marine Corps 87-93. Stupidly sold it when I detached from active duty. Found the 700 a few years ago and had to have it. I also own a 2013 VFR1200F Interceptor in Tuxedo Black metallic. Beautiful machine, ridiculous power and all day rideability. It is loaded where as the 84 Interceptor is very raw and requires much more of the rider. Love them both! Just bought rural property in TN and look forward to riding throughout the state. Ride safe my two wheeled brethren!
You needed to rev it more. When I test rode one, dealer demonstrator, I took it in the hills, the exhaust note was gorgeous and addictive, revving that v4 was wonderful.
In 2017 I bought a 2014 gen 8 VFR, still in the crate, for a price that was hard to believe. I'm glad it's in my stable. The VFR is a really beautiful machine and I like that it has some lineage back to the early RCs. However, I am constantly perplexed by this machine. (For me) it occupies a strange space as either the world's laziest 600-class sportbike or the least comfortable sport tourer ever made. The lever feel from the (non ABS) front brake is exceptional, but otherwise the VFR excels only at making compromises. ...and yet mine is not for sale... Confusing.
It's exactly what you would expect from Honda. Aggressively conservative, but trying to appeal to two different types of buyers. Both their cars and bikes end up being really good at doing a lot of things right, but never excelling in any one category, other than reliability. Predictability seems to be one of their biggest value propositions.
Great video. One minor correction… These bikes do not have the linked brake system like the 6th gen. Lever controls the front and the foot brake controls the rear. (Source: I own one)
You are right, "Herorr" is making the same mistake like "chaseontwowheels" by reviewing a motorcycle without doing his homework. In his review "chaseontwowheels" stated that engine runs on two cilinders until 7000rpm when is switches to four.
Good analogy on the foot pegs. I read about people complaining that it’s too cramped and needs lower pegs. I put lower pegs on my 14 VFR and really can’t say it’s more comfortable for me. ( I’m 5’8’’ ) I’ll be switching back to the OE pegs soon to make sure I’m not losing my mind!
I purchased a six-gen in 2022 with a little over 9000 miles on it.That looked like it just rolled off the showroom floor. I paid $4,000 for it and I have never been happier with a purchase in my life also own a 2003 Kawasaki Ninja 636 with 14,500 on the odometer purchased from the original owner in immaculate condition. I enjoy both bikes But the VFR is my favorite.👌🏼
Been waiting awhile for you to review this model, I've been curious about getting it. That being said, I've tested a Ducati Supersport 950 S, Italy's answer to the VFR800, and it was a fantastic mix of torquey sportiness with all-day comfort. Definitely more expensive and better equipped, but I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on the Ducati!
this is a bad day to have a bit of money saved in a highly accessible bank account... can't believe how much bike you can get for such a reasonable price. i am extremely tempted.
i have a black one...but with a Arrow black and carbon exhaust of course. in my experience (20k km in two years) it drinks much less fuel than the previous gen...you'll see. Greetings from Italy!
YT algorithm brought me here. I have a 2015plate and for the riding I do, is a pretty solid choice. Yes, you can feel the weight on low speed twisties but you develop the handling of it. I agree about the foot-pegs, Id prefer them a lil bit higher and Im 5,11 but that is just a preference. The only minus for me is the seating position when riding long/longer - I sort of linger between leaning/upright and sport riding position but again with time I have found ways to overcome this without compromising safety etc and stressing my wrists as much as in the beginning. Very liable all these years overall and gosh them looks are sexy af. Ive seen in it silver too and yeh is nice but nothing beats racing red. I am in love with it really and thank you for reviewing it being kind and civil about it. I’ve seen and read reviews as if it is the Hitler of the motorbikes. Ok it’s not for everyone but being vile about it?!?! Not needed! Thank you again and wish you will own one Interceptor as well! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Hey bro🙌 I watched you beginner sports bike video👏 great video btw🙏 so it’s between the ninja 400 and the ktm 390, however there is a bike outside of the video I’m curious to get your thoughts on😇 the aprilia rs 457🙈 any input would be greatly appreciated🫶
I think that's a great starter bike. I did a first ride on the Tuono 660 that you can check out. I know it's a different bike but the controls, etc. may be similar. Overall just worry about reliability with italian bikes, but man they are stunning to look at and fun to ride. good luck!
@@HeroRR hey thanks for the suggestion😇 I have watched the original review more times then I can count😅 originally I didn’t like the centre headlight on ktm and I’m not a fan of how the Yamaha looks so it was gonna be ninja, after looking at them a 2023 ninja 400 is around 8k, 2024 ninja 500 10k and the 2024 aprilia rs 457 is 11k, however after hearing you praise the ktm so much I decided to factor it In again, and seeing as there aren’t many bikes in that cc range in my area and there is actually a ktm in a city nearby I might go for it👏 it’s a 2023 that didn’t sell last year and it’s out for 6k not used, and what I have heard in most beginner bike reviews is get a cheaper one because you are most likely gonna drop it at some point🙄 but man that aprilia is tempting after watching your tuono review🙈 I just don’t have the heart to drop it💔 I would feel so bad😭 but thanks so much for your input and your review videos🙌 they have been incredibly helpful✨ (edit* obv others rated looks and such but with YOUR rating they would have both been tied at 21 points, so considering I can get the ktm at a lower price than the ninja when price played a part in the ninjas rating I feel confident it’s the correct choice) sorry I’m just yapping to myself trying to justify buying the bike😅🙈
As a drifting VFR750 (RC36/2)-Hooligan I hate combined brakes and don't see what the 8th brings to the table that the older ones don't. I still like it though, as I do every VFR so far.
Hey H I just watched this and was curious were you in the Mount greylock area? Also I have been chasing a possible 98-99 VFR Gear driven cams no Vtech no cats or O2 sensors. The Kawasaki has been on my radar I currently have a seasoned 9vfr that I absolutely love and the only downside is that it is carbed and I have done the Mosfet RR conversion .
8th Gen headlights look good but 6th Gen lights work much better. I know people have found the 8th Gen lights to be hard to see by, with a sharp cutoff in the beam and a section of darkness in the middle of the area they project on to.
Put a Coffman's Shorty exhaust on it and you can see the whole beautiful rear wheel! In Denmark, there is only the deluxe version, and i relly love the upgrades, if it dident have, i go for Kawa 1000 instead.
Honda needs to come out with a new VFR. 1100cc, gear driven cams, no VTEC, Large TFT screen, cruise control, heated grips, 165hp at the wheel. Improved suspension. I guess Honda's version of the Aprilia Tuono 1100 V4.
5th gen silver body with the 8th gen's headlight design, I would kill for that. Oh yeah and a double rear swing arm setup because single sided swing arms suck ass. Looks good, impractical af.
Nice review, but to be honest I would have preferred the VFR 1200 because the opinions about this motorcycle and experiences are so different. Regarding the VFR 750 and 800, I still wonder what the RC24 cannot do that its successors can. When I owned my first VFR, an RC24 1986, there was an 800 Fi 2000 for sale, your project. During a test ride the first feeling was 'The VFR has become a touring motorcycle', gone was the sporty charm of the RC24 or RC36II that I own now, hopefully the 6 and 8 gen will do that better.
I have the same gloves, but my 2015 VFR is the Deluxe in red and Honda NA was clearing them out slashing the price down to $6950 almost half of the original MSRP. I ditched the stock pipe and replaced it with the beautiful Italian SC Project Conic slip-on. I got mine brand new in 2018 right out of a crate.
I had that bike for about a year. It was much worse than my previous VFR 1996. I was so happy when sold it :) why? Acceleration was poor, sound was shitty, vtec was annoying, difficult to clean, and last but not least it looked like a big red toy for pusses.
Honda is lacking. They need to do something. I mean look at suzuki with their new GX the bmw xr, the versys, the multistrada. There’s nothing from honda that comes close. A new v4 engine in multiple forms would be a amazing
NEWSFLASH!! It's NOT A SPORT BIKE! It's OEM accessories is full luggage, does the CBR have that option? Not personal preference, designed for sport touring!
Wow! You are tiny! Those are cool bikes, for sure, any gen or year. None are perfect but none are bad. The color combination of this bike is gorgeous and I agree about the exhaust.
I own a vfr 2014 white and i done 20 000 miles on it. . Beautifull bike, well finish, ultra reliable everyting is there But the engine is boring as hell....
This VFR platform was obsolete decades ago. I have a 2004 VFR. If I were considering a newer bike I would NOT buy an obsolete engine design like the VTEC 782cc V4.
Greatings form Poland. I have vfr from 2009, next vfr800f 2015. Each owns 4 years. And the newest one was the best but it is really old from technical point of view :-( v4 engine and singleside arm if amazing! And this is all. I have sell it now I have 2023 Tracer 9GT. Sh** that Honda didn't provide a successor to vfr :-(
Correction!: Sorry guys I made a big mistake, this bike does NOT have combine brakes (like my 6th gen). Sorry for the confusion!
No more linked?¿?
@@barrycampbell534 Correct.
I have been looking for a guy that loves to talk about old bikes, especially hondas. RUclips has blessed me man
I have a 2017 VFR800F RC93 and I agree that over the 6th gen the improvements are not gigantic in terms of engine performance and handling but: you have a fresh look with led headlights and mirrors, gear indicator and heated grips as standard, traction control, abs (not combined anymore), a smoother vtec transition, gorgeous rims, radial calipers, self canceling indicators.
That is a big list of improvements.
@ralphwarom2514 I would say so, maybe minor but they are plenty. I forgot about OEM quickshifter as an option, just ordered one and can't wait to test it. These are not available anymore and I was super lucky to find one in an old stock.
NOOO STOP RAISING THE PRICE I'M TRYING TO BUY ONE
Great bike. Have a 99.
@@nonyabusiness4151 i cant even finde one for sale!
Super machine, i have a 2017.
I wish Honda would bring back a new VFR. I need more V4 goodnes in my life that doesn't cost an arm and a leg (looking at you DUCATI)
Mine waited in the dealer for 6 years. I got it back in late 2020 and Im still in love with her🏍👍
Got to love the VFR's and their predecessor the VF variants from the early and mid 80's I presently own a nicely restored 1984 Honda VF700F in Freddie Spencer red, white and blue. Had the same model in 750cc back in my days in the Marine Corps 87-93. Stupidly sold it when I detached from active duty. Found the 700 a few years ago and had to have it. I also own a 2013 VFR1200F Interceptor in Tuxedo Black metallic. Beautiful machine, ridiculous power and all day rideability. It is loaded where as the 84 Interceptor is very raw and requires much more of the rider. Love them both! Just bought rural property in TN and look forward to riding throughout the state. Ride safe my two wheeled brethren!
You needed to rev it more. When I test rode one, dealer demonstrator, I took it in the hills, the exhaust note was gorgeous and addictive, revving that v4 was wonderful.
It is good to have you back man, great video as always!(Very informative!)
Cannot wait for the VFR rebuild!
Looking forward to the updated 5th gen restoration video, coming from a fellow 5th gen owner!
Been waiting on this one for some time!
I have a 5th gen… and love it… thinking of getting an 8th gen…. Great video….
My baby 😍 but mines in white, same year. Got it for 5 grand mid 2021 and I adore her
Awesome video. Beautiful place. Have looked at the 2011 VFR1200F? massive improvement on the motor. super comfortable. Cheers
In 2017 I bought a 2014 gen 8 VFR, still in the crate, for a price that was hard to believe. I'm glad it's in my stable. The VFR is a really beautiful machine and I like that it has some lineage back to the early RCs. However, I am constantly perplexed by this machine. (For me) it occupies a strange space as either the world's laziest 600-class sportbike or the least comfortable sport tourer ever made. The lever feel from the (non ABS) front brake is exceptional, but otherwise the VFR excels only at making compromises. ...and yet mine is not for sale... Confusing.
It's exactly what you would expect from Honda. Aggressively conservative, but trying to appeal to two different types of buyers. Both their cars and bikes end up being really good at doing a lot of things right, but never excelling in any one category, other than reliability. Predictability seems to be one of their biggest value propositions.
Every bike ever is a compromise.
Have an as-new one in black. Love it.
The best sounding exhaust is the SC Project. Beautifully finished too.
I own a VFR 1200F DCT for a year and a half and I'm pretty happy :D
thats not a vfr, just like the cross
Great video. One minor correction… These bikes do not have the linked brake system like the 6th gen. Lever controls the front and the foot brake controls the rear. (Source: I own one)
You are right, "Herorr" is making the same mistake like "chaseontwowheels" by reviewing a motorcycle without doing his homework. In his review "chaseontwowheels" stated that engine runs on two cilinders until 7000rpm when is switches to four.
Dang it. Thank you for the correction.
You are the reason i Really want to get one. Agree on the Exhaust. I don't know what honda was thinking, covering up that beautiful rear wheel
I bought a 5th gen 2 months ago and it's the best bike I've ridden so far
Great video! Can't help but love on these bikes.
I love every generation of VFR. You can do everything but off road.
Unless you get the off road version! 😊
Yea the vfr is so great its just heavy and fast which is not a good combo for newer riders
Challenge excepted!
except they literally make a dual sport
@@eric62backstrom The VFR 800Xand VFR1200X (Crossrunner) don't count.
Awesome awesome. Glad to see ya back..
Good analogy on the foot pegs. I read about people complaining that it’s too cramped and needs lower pegs. I put lower pegs on my 14 VFR and really can’t say it’s more comfortable for me. ( I’m 5’8’’ ) I’ll be switching back to the OE pegs soon to make sure I’m not losing my mind!
I purchased a six-gen in 2022 with a little over 9000 miles on it.That looked like it just rolled off the showroom floor. I paid $4,000 for it and I have never been happier with a purchase in my life also own a 2003 Kawasaki Ninja 636 with 14,500 on the odometer purchased from the original owner in immaculate condition. I enjoy both bikes But the VFR is my favorite.👌🏼
Been waiting awhile for you to review this model, I've been curious about getting it. That being said, I've tested a Ducati Supersport 950 S, Italy's answer to the VFR800, and it was a fantastic mix of torquey sportiness with all-day comfort. Definitely more expensive and better equipped, but I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on the Ducati!
Fixed charging system would be m #1 reason to get an 8th gen, my 6th gen got me stranded abroad 3 times....
this is a bad day to have a bit of money saved in a highly accessible bank account...
can't believe how much bike you can get for such a reasonable price. i am extremely tempted.
i have a black one...but with a Arrow black and carbon exhaust of course. in my experience (20k km in two years) it drinks much less fuel than the previous gen...you'll see. Greetings from Italy!
YT algorithm brought me here. I have a 2015plate and for the riding I do, is a pretty solid choice. Yes, you can feel the weight on low speed twisties but you develop the handling of it. I agree about the foot-pegs, Id prefer them a lil bit higher and Im 5,11 but that is just a preference. The only minus for me is the seating position when riding long/longer - I sort of linger between leaning/upright and sport riding position but again with time I have found ways to overcome this without compromising safety etc and stressing my wrists as much as in the beginning. Very liable all these years overall and gosh them looks are sexy af. Ive seen in it silver too and yeh is nice but nothing beats racing red. I am in love with it really and thank you for reviewing it being kind and civil about it. I’ve seen and read reviews as if it is the Hitler of the motorbikes. Ok it’s not for everyone but being vile about it?!?! Not needed!
Thank you again and wish you will own one Interceptor as well! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Hey bro🙌 I watched you beginner sports bike video👏 great video btw🙏 so it’s between the ninja 400 and the ktm 390, however there is a bike outside of the video I’m curious to get your thoughts on😇 the aprilia rs 457🙈 any input would be greatly appreciated🫶
I think that's a great starter bike. I did a first ride on the Tuono 660 that you can check out. I know it's a different bike but the controls, etc. may be similar. Overall just worry about reliability with italian bikes, but man they are stunning to look at and fun to ride. good luck!
@@HeroRR hey thanks for the suggestion😇 I have watched the original review more times then I can count😅 originally I didn’t like the centre headlight on ktm and I’m not a fan of how the Yamaha looks so it was gonna be ninja, after looking at them a 2023 ninja 400 is around 8k, 2024 ninja 500 10k and the 2024 aprilia rs 457 is 11k, however after hearing you praise the ktm so much I decided to factor it In again, and seeing as there aren’t many bikes in that cc range in my area and there is actually a ktm in a city nearby I might go for it👏 it’s a 2023 that didn’t sell last year and it’s out for 6k not used, and what I have heard in most beginner bike reviews is get a cheaper one because you are most likely gonna drop it at some point🙄 but man that aprilia is tempting after watching your tuono review🙈 I just don’t have the heart to drop it💔 I would feel so bad😭 but thanks so much for your input and your review videos🙌 they have been incredibly helpful✨ (edit* obv others rated looks and such but with YOUR rating they would have both been tied at 21 points, so considering I can get the ktm at a lower price than the ninja when price played a part in the ninjas rating I feel confident it’s the correct choice) sorry I’m just yapping to myself trying to justify buying the bike😅🙈
‼️ What a great find …. VFR Heaven ‼️
Brilliant
🙏❤️ Love from Scotland 🙏❤️
This gen is the one I want.
They look better and are MUCH faster in white. #facts. And get the ones with bags if you can find it.
red is the fastest. sit down
It's true. I have a white 3rd gen and it's faster than my old red one.
This VFR800 sold for decades. Just because a bike is discontinued after a long run does mean it “failed.”
As a drifting VFR750 (RC36/2)-Hooligan I hate combined brakes and don't see what the 8th brings to the table that the older ones don't. I still like it though, as I do every VFR so far.
I recognize the Charohala skyway, where did you rent this bike from? I go to that area somewhat often and I'd love to try that bike out.
I live nearby and I'm interested in buying one. I'd like to rent one to try before I do.
Love my bike 2019 plate. ❤❤
Whats up hero
I used to have a 2014 VFR800, but it was stolen last thanksgiving. I miss it, but I used the insurance money to buy a 2022 ZX-14R
Hey H I just watched this and was curious were you in the Mount greylock area? Also I have been chasing a possible 98-99 VFR Gear driven cams no Vtech no cats or O2 sensors. The Kawasaki has been on my radar I currently have a seasoned 9vfr that I absolutely love and the only downside is that it is carbed and I have done the Mosfet RR conversion .
Awesome!!
8th Gen headlights look good but 6th Gen lights work much better. I know people have found the 8th Gen lights to be hard to see by, with a sharp cutoff in the beam and a section of darkness in the middle of the area they project on to.
Put a Coffman's Shorty exhaust on it and you can see the whole beautiful rear wheel!
In Denmark, there is only the deluxe version, and i relly love the upgrades, if it dident have, i go for Kawa 1000 instead.
Honda needs to come out with a new VFR. 1100cc, gear driven cams, no VTEC, Large TFT screen, cruise control, heated grips, 165hp at the wheel. Improved suspension. I guess Honda's version of the Aprilia Tuono 1100 V4.
Bro... Please...
Absolutely no iPad clocks for me. I didn't realise anyone actually liked them. Give us exactly the same as the 8th Gen's analogue tach and LCD speedo
9:53 nice
5th gen silver body with the 8th gen's headlight design, I would kill for that.
Oh yeah and a double rear swing arm setup because single sided swing arms suck ass. Looks good, impractical af.
I own one which is now 170k kms in 8y (bought brand new in 2017,February)
I love the look of this bike. Very clean compared to the bs childish designs we have now.
Nice review, but to be honest I would have preferred the VFR 1200 because the opinions about this motorcycle and experiences are so different.
Regarding the VFR 750 and 800, I still wonder what the RC24 cannot do that its successors can.
When I owned my first VFR, an RC24 1986, there was an 800 Fi 2000 for sale, your project. During a test ride the first feeling was 'The VFR has become a touring motorcycle', gone was the sporty charm of the RC24 or RC36II that I own now, hopefully the 6 and 8 gen will do that better.
I have the same gloves, but my 2015 VFR is the Deluxe in red and Honda NA was clearing them out slashing the price down to $6950 almost half of the original MSRP. I ditched the stock pipe and replaced it with the beautiful Italian SC Project Conic slip-on. I got mine brand new in 2018 right out of a crate.
Nice
I had that bike for about a year. It was much worse than my previous VFR 1996. I was so happy when sold it :) why? Acceleration was poor, sound was shitty, vtec was annoying, difficult to clean, and last but not least it looked like a big red toy for pusses.
Just a shame you can't get them anymore :( they killed the F in my market a few years sooner as the dorky X version of it
How would you compare it to the 84 Interceptor 1000..?
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I thought VFR stood for v four road?
What was 7th generation?
I bet this sounds good with an aftermarket can on it. Not as good as geared cams, but good.
Flapper mod and a pipe really transform the bike, it lifts in first gear.
YEESSSSSS
I think Honda took the Stirling from their NR750 and not from Ducati. They also have at least 3 other bikes with turn signals in the mirror.
is that what VTec means?
Honda is lacking. They need to do something. I mean look at suzuki with their new GX the bmw xr, the versys, the multistrada. There’s nothing from honda that comes close. A new v4 engine in multiple forms would be a amazing
VFRRRRRRRR
Damn, had a chance to buy one too, but I went with the Yamaha...😅
R6?
@@camarov5456 YZF600R Thundercat
NEWSFLASH!! It's NOT A SPORT BIKE! It's OEM accessories is full luggage, does the CBR have that option? Not personal preference, designed for sport touring!
These bikes suck and finally killed the VFR for good. The VFR1200 further put a nail in the coffin.
8th gen doesn't have combined abs.
Wow, I thought Ducati copied Honda with the V4 engine, single sided swing arm with their Panigale V4.
Wow! You are tiny! Those are cool bikes, for sure, any gen or year. None are perfect but none are bad. The color combination of this bike is gorgeous and I agree about the exhaust.
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Man I can’t find any around me
"Meh" sums it up
VFR History - ruclips.net/video/tt4iXRcwHeY/видео.htmlsi=7Z2ekZLZtot7XVrl
Why Honda Failed the VFR - ruclips.net/video/EFkyBiqRfM4/видео.htmlsi=XH6v-0dMGUwpfcCK
I own a vfr 2014 white and i done 20 000 miles on it. . Beautifull bike, well finish, ultra reliable everyting is there But the engine is boring as hell....
Let me buy your 954
This VFR platform was obsolete decades ago. I have a 2004 VFR. If I were considering a newer bike I would NOT buy an obsolete engine design like the VTEC 782cc V4.
vfr 900 wouldve been nice aaa...
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No one should follow anything this guys says. Just WOW!
This guy is so clueless, this is so painful to watch. It feels the same? LOL!!
Greatings form Poland. I have vfr from 2009, next vfr800f 2015. Each owns 4 years. And the newest one was the best but it is really old from technical point of view :-( v4 engine and singleside arm if amazing! And this is all. I have sell it now I have 2023 Tracer 9GT. Sh** that Honda didn't provide a successor to vfr :-(