4 Young NBA Players It's OFFICIALLY Time To Give Up On...
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- Опубликовано: 16 сен 2024
- In this video we discuss four young NBA players that have failed to live up to the hype and it's probably for the best to abandon any hopes of them becoming the stars they were once destined to be... James Wiseman and more discussed
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Wiseman is on that Bagley path where he could be a solid bench big but high level starter hopes are almost gone. Definitely a bust, but not out of the league. Johnny Davis is confusingly bad on the NBA level, he'll prolly get that overseas bag after this contract. I think Zaire Williams could still make a jump to be a sixth man type guy personally but we'll see. Josh is absolutely cooked, even if he were a better player he's damaged goods in a way the league doesn't mess with (what he did was highly confusing and concerning)
Nah bro with time and if he can improve I can see Primo on a team. Talent trumps issues. But we will see
@@eugenealexander5607 Good point. Then again, he could get a bag and find success overseas if just wanted to go that route
It's way too soon to call him a bust when he's only 22
Wiseman gonna ball out in Indiana!
They are about to bust so hard bro
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In bust we don’t trust 🥲
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Yooo No diddy theres too many bust in the nba
Josh Primo was developing very well in San Antonio. He was likely a starter going forward, but he couldn't control himself.
I mean, that was his point
He was terrible lol
He was a Master Baiter
I think it’s also time for the bulls to give up on Patrick Williams looking back on it that Kawhi and PG comparison was just god awful absolutely hilarious
He still has all the tools to succeed, he's just had stiff luck with injuries and having to play as a spot up guy for Zach Lavine, Demar and Vuc his entire career. He's never been given a fair run on offense to see what he can do, his defense is pretty great also and looks like it'll only get better
@@aidanharrington9892 I hear all that and coming from a Chicago native myself I understand but I just don’t see what made the bulls take him 4th if he was drafted mid to late first round ok but dude showed nothing in college to be worthy of going that high he came off the bench every year he played at Florida and average only 9 points ain’t no way in hell that screams let me take this guy 4th overall bulls took a risk and missed horribly
@@Kota_almighty he was projected to go 6-8 range, they tried to trade down for him but didn't find any suitable trades so just took him 4th wasnt a huge reach back then
why he always at pf?? bulls dont know what they doin
Patrick Williams is a good player lol i would love him on my team good 3 and D player but hasn't showed that star potential but will still be a really good role player for years to come at least.
I believe in a redemption story
I dont
Redemption starts in the G League
Give me a good example in the NBA. Remember having a relatively long career but bench role player in the nba for a top-3 pick isnt a redemption.... and chauncey billups averaged double figures in his first 4 seasons.
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Ben Wallace went undrafted, NeNe took six years to hit his 7 year prime, Goran Dragic started 8 games in his first 3 seasons, and Jermaine O'Neal was the 17th overall pick in 1996 and averaged 7 PPG in his first 5 seasons before making 6 straight all-star games. Also, Billups was on 4 teams in his first 5 years, a very shakey and uncertain start to an eventual hall of fame career. (Technically a HOFer-i personally think he is in the "hall of very great", I dont think he should be in the hall)
For everybody though?
Wiseman can be like a Hassan Whiteside type of role when whiteside was playing good
"When Whiteside was good" was when he was putting up empty stats.
Whiteside could put up stats because he had some court awareness, I don't see that with Wiseman
Wiseman has no defensive processing or awareness. That’s why he can’t play.
Bring him back to Memphis
@@jjmcg9688whiteside didn’t love the game that’s why he didn’t do great outside of 2016-2018 he got his bag and said I give up
bros acting like they should retire. nba isnt the only league in the world that pays you they are young theyre good bro
Fr I hate these bloggers who never even played an organized game in their life. Like damn majority of players don’t fully develop until the 5 year mark and then some times if depends on the scheme of the team that affects development
This is your "signature series".
The competition in the NBA is so fierce and cutthroat you need to figure things out really quick or some fresh talent will replace you lol
Yep. So true. If you can't play, NBA isn't into developing "old guys." The G League is for developing 19-22 year olds. If you hit 24, and still haven't carved out a solid bench role, 1. 2. 3. Shanghai!!
THE BASS TOWARD THE END OF VIDEO GOES CRAZY! 8:10
I remember when I thought Poole, Wiseman, PBJ, Moody & Kuminga was the future of the Warriors 😔
Wiseman started 24 games in 2022-2023 for Detroit averaged 12 points a game 8 rebounds in 25 min. Defense went from 30th in league to 15th in games he started. Gonna ball out in Indiana.
Josh Primo was emerging on and off the court before he got cut.
James Wiseman has one Title on his legacy already. If he develops along the lines of JaVale McGee, Wiseman ends up with 4 Championship Rings and earns a couple of hundred minimum.
BUST!! HUH? WHAT?
Last year wiseman was top 30 in rebounds per game in just one thousand minutes. He grab 2 contested rebounds a game. He does not belong in this video as a bust. You’re gonna owe him an apology next season. Go Pacers.
I had high hopes for Josh Primo's development. But I'm over that now, Wemby is better.
You’re a Wiseman Hater! Wiseman been working hard. Bigs take time to figure it out. He can run the floor and protect the rim and Dunk with the Best of them.
Isn’t Primo basically “the Deep” personality wise?
Wiseman isn’t even 23 yet 😭 he isn’t a bust
Yes he is lol the guy is terrible he just catch lobs and pick up some easy rebounds he does nothing else well.
Wiseman is a baller. Gonna ball out in Indiana! Haliburton and McConnell gonna be feeding him the ball for a Dunk fest year.
Now that I think about it my warriors should have drafted lamelo ball instead of wiseman
actually they should've traded that pick for win now players.
Lamelo at the sg and klay at the sf with steph and draymond would've been unstoppable all shooting and play making plus he would've been perfect for now klay feel off from injuries him and steph is a mean back court
@@sylviaadkins6208 facts and melo passing
Melo would have been a perfect long term Klay Replacement.
@@emilfrederiksen.1622 yea the scoring and passing the versatility to help curry
The Pacers will revive Wiseman’s career. Like they have done with so many others
When leaving college early this is the rusult of some
Wiseman is only 23 years old gonna have a break out year this season in Indiana!
Here in memphis it has been sad to watch Wiseman's career, it has been destroyed by a lack of development. Penny killed his college career by challenging the NCAA. Then the 'rebuilding' GSW team changed course and he was hurt &/or on the bench for two years. So 4 years into the NBA, he has far less experience than the average G league player, after 2 years on a DOA Pistons team to be disheartened further. Basketball IQ = experience to a large degree, he just hasn't gotten much for his time in the league. I think there's still a chance for him to be a decent utility player, but at this point, never the star he seemed destined to be.
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James Wiseman is going to be just fine in Indiana in a consistent defined role off of the bench this season. Perhaps people had too high expectations on him to begin with. I still believe he can be a 10-10 big man in the NBA. Plus, he can shoot the 3. He's not a bust, far from it.
It is really disorienting to watch a video on players to give up on, but all of the clips show these same players drilling 3 pointers. LOL
Dudes at the Rec center can literally do that.
Call me crazy but I still think Wiseman can get it together and be good eventually. Same goes for bol bol
Ok, I will take your advice, you crazy :-) wiseman will be on the Shanghei Sharks next year.
Wiseman gonna ball out in Indiana. Go Pacers!
Bruh James Wiseman is only TWENTY-TWO
Seems like drafting a big (with exception of freak of nature Wembanyama) at top of draft almost never works out well. Could continue with Sarr this year
But are they on the verge of busting?
I know I am
they’re edging
Wiseman gonna ball out in Indiana!Go Pacers!
To think that Primo had a strong chance to be the PG for Wemby for his entire career and he ruined it still baffles me. That is a bag you can't get back
James Wiseman is so skilled
I’m not giving up on Williams when he never really had a shot to let him develop
5:05 AYO‼️‼️‼️
Johnny Davis is the third best player on the Wizards. It is the Wizards though.
all 4 are correct, but wiseman might actually have a chance this season in indy kind of like how jalen smith bounced back
James Wiseman GOT SO MUCH POTENTIAL
Wiseman gonna ball out in Indiana. Go Pacers!
Nah. He has no head and his IQ is 50 on the court
Mavs fan here. Rick Carlise is horrible at playing rookies. However he has done well with players who have been busts on other teams. It could work well for Wiseman. It’s going to be tough for Wiseman to overtake PT from Myles Turner even if he figures it out.
I've seen players learn new offensive skills. I have never seen some "all of a sudden" learn to play defense. Wiseman is a defensive sieve, and just can't be on the court. He plays 8th grade defense ("I am taller and faster than you, I am.just gonna go up and block your shot"). Any pump fakes gets him to commit a foul. Sad, but true. Offensively, he's Ok at times. He might have had a long career in the 90s. Then again, Shaq and Olajuwan would have abused him, so who knows
Have you been watching wiseman? He was top 30 in rebounds last year only playing 1 thousand minutes. Don’t give up on him takes awhile for bigs to figure it out.
The spurs were about to hand over the keys to primo in his second year, which is scary to think about. We had just offloaded Derrick White and Dejounte Murray. But now we have Wemby, so I’m happy.
Where's Ben Simmons?
i think everyone’s given up on him since the 76s collapse
I think he's got a good shot at winning rookie of the year this next season
He's not young is he?
This is 2024
In the 🗑️
I thunk Wiseman gonna be really good this year with the pacers something about their system that make players better could be Halliburton but obi and Smith both really looked good with them even tho i thought obi was a better fit with the Knicks than Randle that playoff run that they had with him so he was already going up
I don’t know what the Clippers were thinking signing Primo and Kai back to back. Primo especially does not deserve a second chance after what he did
They woulda been the best young players they have
1. I agree it is time to give up the possibility of Wiseman to turn into a lottery pick player, but I still think he can be an (above) average backup center, like a Gorgei Deng/Plumlee/Richaun Holmes.
2. Jonny who? I agree.
3. I kinda liked Ziaire but there wasn't any room for him on those Grizzlies teams, kinda like you said. I still think he could be a borderline starter, like an Al Foruq Aminu/Demare Carroll. If Ziaire was drafted in the 2nd round, people would be like "ya, he's alright".
4. I agree.
James Wiseman is 23. Maybe he can craft a good enough game to be a reliable backup. Of all the guys on this list, he's the most likely to my to stay in the league the longest. Ziaire Williams is 2nd.
I’m close to busting too I ain’t gon make it pro
The label "Bust" only occurs when expectation is set to high.
I'm close to busting but I don't even play basketball
Back to back 10th picks bustin on this video is wild!!!!😂😂
Zaire still got potential as a 3&D player
30% shooting isn’t good enough
Him and Killian Hayes should have been in the Gleague or at least Euroleague already just to develop
Wiseman gonna ball out in Indiana.
lol give wiseman 30 mins a gm nd he averages 16-18 easy.
Not the Taco Bell guy 😂
the younger a player is when they start getting publicly hyped the less likely they are to go on to have a significant career in the nba
I'm not giving up on wiseman. I think he has serious potential to be a solid backup big
Wiseman gonna ball out in Indiana.
I always thought it would be funny to do an animorphs cover of James Wiseman turning into Hasheem Thabeet
Happy birthday Ziare Williams!
NOT YET for ziare bro bro owns the bucks go back & watch
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To me it shows ignorance to say its over for wiseman. If the Pacers can't get him to get closer to his potential then definitely give up. Remember the pacers got trolled saying we traded brogdon for a paper clip and nesmith turned around. Others had a renaissance too.
Surprised you didn’t have Markelle Fultz on here
Wiseman - hard to see if he either too stupid to figure it out or doesn't care enough to figure it out. All he needs to do is focus on defense and he has a role in this league for a long time, making more money then he'll ever make after the NBA. I don't know that anyone is telling him that. Just play defense! With that body he can rebound, block shots, and defend well. The offense will come when it does, it should NOT be his focus. Plenty of other guys who can shoot the lights out.
Who is his agent? Some creepy guy in a plaid blazer and a greasy ponytail and cheap sunglasses? Probably.
Imagine being criticized by a you tuber who couldn't beat the worst dude on the bench in the NBA.😂
Wiseman kinda sneakily could be a good role player. Just needs to focus his defensive IQ and finishing around the rim. Go down that Hassan Whiteside track
I'd wait one more year to see if Wiseman works out with the Pacers.. They've already turned the careers around of Obi Toppin, Jalen Smith, and Aaron Nesmith, all of whom were considered lottery pick busts or borderline busts from the 2020 draft.
Wiseman is the perfect fit in Indiana. Gonna run the floor and protect the rim. Go Pacers!
Obi played the exact same way on the Pacers as he did on the Knicks just got a lil more playing time 😂 he wasn’t only considered a “bust” to casuals that hate the Knicks 😂
Some YT analyst did a video claiming Wiseman advanced analytics were similar to Isaiah Hartenstein, although obviously over much less minutes. Pistons are a messed up team with a logjam at big man. Wiseman is very young and had a very short basketball career, definitely a draft bust #2 pick, but I wouldn't wright him out of the league just yet though he is on the bubble.
NBA champion Jonathan Wiseman.
I thought a certain number 1 pick would’ve been on this list (Not Zion)
Why blame these players? Blame the teams who drafted them. Blame the scouts who didn't do their jobs properly.
It's not entirely their fault either. The player deserves at least some of the blame, or in some cases, all of it.
I appreciate the analysis and channel, but why dont you show credits for the gameplay videos you use in your videos? 🤔
First time I’ve heard of Johnny Davis 😂
Isn’t Josh on the clippers
Right
He got waived
Johnny DAVIS NEEDS TO COME TO DETROIT PISTONS
"Back to back 10th overall picks busting in this video" 🤨 5:05
Yikes. Can we not have a nuanced discussion without talking about “giving up” on these young athletes who are probably going through it already?
Well that's what happens when you draft players on potential or one and done college players or they blow up over a 1/2 year period and to may people in their ears telling them they are ready for the NBA only to realise they are simply not
I don't understand Wiseman. He got all the god given traits to be a basketball player but he's just so lazy.
Josh primo 😂😂
i feel like james wiseman had a high celing he just was always injured
Who the hell is Johnny Davis 😂😂😂
If they quit the one and done to stop watering the league down with trash product is an idea
Josh Primo’s career is over
Ayooo what do you mean back to back 10th pick busting 😂😂
Primo can come back, he just picked the worst team to join in the Clippers. A team so deep at SG that he was guaranteed 0 minutes. The charges against him dropped and the details make it pretty obvious he didn't do anything wrong except not wear underwear with his shorts.
i think he did what he did, it was not really an underwear problem, they probably paid to get this buried in an attempt to save his carreer. He himself said he needed to work on his mental health, someone who is innocent doesnt go around saying stuff like that.
Wisemen ! If watch the tape he two slow from decision making and being big men ! He probably at best like he said a bench center also I don’t see anything special he not better then Ayton the eye test just looks like a tall guy who made it the next level !!
Wise, man
Hope Primo can work on his game and get back on a team
5. Cam
Why is wiseman on your list He was top 30 in rebounds and grabbed two contested rebounds per game. Scored 7 points a game in 13 minutes per game.Played in 68 games for a total of 1 thousand minutes. Take him off your list. He competed for playing minutes. Won the back up spot.
What happened to Zhaire Wade tho
His father transitioned him into a girl
Rashford ??
Lol bronny will be on this list next month
Wiseman is butt 😂😂😂
You clearly didn’t watch Wiseman last year. He definitely improved even in Monty’s disfunction. I wonder if your opinion of him would be the same if he was a Sixer instead
As a pistons fan he's ass bro
It’s time for him to put the fries in the bag
There’s always a wiseman believer
No he didn’t bruh stop lyin
@@seandaniels7938Oh hn u a Pistons fan y’all nvr winning a chip gl tho bro
Wait what 5:06
You can't go wrong drafting European talents, American players lack of fundamentals is the reason some of this hyped players became busts, if talent like James W. was in Real Madrid, Partizan Belgrade... he would be NBA ready from day one. Being talented is just not enough anymore, it's time for serious changes. Don't be surprised at the and of next season if the NBA first team is all international.
You 100% can lol there are tons European bust in NBA history do you remember a guy named Darko Militic?
James Wiseman is another example that javale McGee showed before him that physical attributes don't mean anything. Javale McGee was a one-on-one athletes 7 ft 40 vertical could get down the court while dribbling in 3 steps but he was just missing something important that couldn't allow him to use it.
I.Q. Is what that is
Mcgee still had a long career as a backup Center
three all black American players…. Interesting
The NBA is predominantly staffed with Black American players. What's so interesting about that?
majority of the top nba draft picks are black. or overseas white guys. be honest with yourself. i dont know if youre a racist trying to diss young black men or a black guy trying to claim racism. either way its not gonna work
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johnny davis comeback year
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