Does The New 2020 Nissan Titan Crush The Chevy Silverado Trail Boss Off-Road? One Way To Find Out!
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Two very nice trucks! Awesome video!
Nissan Titan is definitely a better looking truck!
I’ll bro I can only call it by what I know my 2005 Nissan Titan 270000 miles and going all original everything engine /tranny only a few rupture hoses , it’s not new by any level but it’s holds up its own agains most new trucks
@Wildman I guess you think 'making personal slurs ' makes real sense however it does NOT prove the point ( whatever point you think you have here!)
Now here it comes!
@Wildman Good to see your opinion is not the majority in the comments. Take your 1992 Ram and beat it bud👍
This dude: Two awesome trucks, nice video!
Some random twat on the internet: ThE tItAn LoOkS bEtTeR
In my opinion that Titan front skid plate did its job beautifully just as intended. The most underrated truck in the segment. How about a head to head with a Tundra TRD Pro on the same course?
The Titan deserves the rating it got since it came out. Nissan chickened out on building the Titan Warrior, and then they completely failed on the launch of the truck. They didn't have an extended (king) cab option available for the first year and the majority of trucks they were building had that awful Cummins V8 that was plagued with bugs. They had a Pro-4x trim but that massive front overhang of the pre-facelifted Titan really hurt its capability off-road. When they first tested it off road, the truck was getting its chin hung up all the time. I'm glad Nissan addressed some of those issues with the facelift, but they really need a Titan Warrior.
@@karlschauff7989 warrior would cost money, significant modifications etc. I think Nissan did a nice job of refreshing and keeping the costs down so that consumers can enjoy big discounts off msrp.
The Tundra TRD is no match for these two trucks.
Well The new Tundra wins big time, the ugly contest.
Nissan has been teasing the start of manufacturing for the warriors. Hopefully they will release it in the next few years!
These dudes have the best job ever
This video has showed us that the titan can absolutely go toe to toe with the big dawgs
YES. These guys are reluctant to admit that. I give this channel a thumbs down.
It’s funny how they downplay Nissan all the time, I suppose the kickback they receive from the other truck companies may have something to do with it.
I have had both. Had to lemon law the GM. The nissan is flawless. Titan hands down. All I would do if you offroad alot is the 3 inch manufacturer lift. Tires in my opinion are good enough.
How big of tires fit on the stock Nissan
@@kyjelly5524 if you ever found out lmk
Finally some off road footage of the 2020 Titan, next y’all need to get the Titan up to Canada and let him take it through some thick mud!
There's other good channels that compare off-road. This channel is scared to get the trucks dirty.
I did not know that the USA did not have good mud. Thanks.
@@emanuelnamseth1469 Nope..no good mud here. Now move along.
Nissan would be my choice. They have great reliability, excellent build quality and this new model checks almost all of the necessary off-road boxes. Another great father-son video!
The Titan is probably the least reliable full size truck out there. Have you ventured to any FB group? Engines being replaced left and right and up until this new transmission, almost nobody really happy with the way it shifts. Gas take that whistle and burp during and after fill up, etc etc. I hope for Nissans sake, this redesigned model has those issues worked out.
jabroni6199 ikr, and there cars are worse! CVTs go at 50k they cant take a beating.
@@jabroni6199 no brand or model is spared from issues. In large part the Nissan is right up there with any other truck.
Alan Bowers i didn’t say any brand is spared. Nissan is worse. They have more issues posted to their groups while having the fewest members because nobody buys the trucks. So no, they are nowhere near up there with the rest. That’s not a matter of opinion.
Nissan isn't known for its reliability at all.
IMO the Nissan looks better and appeared to climb the razor rocks more smoothly.Interior hands down better on the Nissan.
Steve York yea
LOL in the real world, (this one) who can't beat a chevy ? always, always, smoke and mirrors with chevy ...
Which is saying something considering how hideous it was before this s imple refresh
Took our new titan pro 4x out on our first night drive…the headlights are the BEST, brightest most effective headlights I’ve ever had on any vehicle. And the high beams are off the charts!
Tommy, you've really come into your own on camera and you're doing a fantastic job these days. I loved the explanation of why the axle ratio hardly matters in today's trucks with many gears in the transmission. This seems to be a thing that the older hosts in the TFL crew and even Me. Truck gets hung up on. Your technical perspective on how the transmission, transfer case, axle ratio and tire size all work together is refreshing.
Matt France id still go with as steep a gear as I can but that’s just habit, I have driven a 4x4 f150 that had the 10 speed with a 3.31 gear and I will say I was impressed with how it pulled with that gear, I could only imagine how good the 3.73 gear would do
Not to mention that he is the best driver of all of them too
Lol I love how my titan here just showed up the jeep from the other test. I can't wait to own this very underrated Titan Pro 4x
Did the Titan go up the razor rocks better than the Gladiator!? Looks like it did!
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They took a more difficult line with the Gladiator
@@AE86FTS Don't get me wrong, the Gladiator with solid axles, disconnecting sways and f/r lockers is a far more capable off-road machine than most trucks, I was just surprised at how well that Titan did.
Well the gladiator is as long as a limo so even though it has more lockers and more flex, it is pretty handicapped with length
@@JW--dc8ri Yup. The Wrangler Rubicon 2 door is what I would buy. Not a fan of long wheel base Jeeps.
Holy crap! That Titan looked awesome going up on Razer Rocks. I think I like the Titan... I’m impressed.
I'm very stoked that nissan is finally getting a lot of positive recognition. I mean half the comments are focused on the titan (positive comments) which makes me happy. I hope they sell a buttload of these. I like the tundra as well but the titan is muels better, but I guess we will see about reliability
I'm a Ford man through and through, but if I were in the market for a truck and for whatever reason a Ford wasn't an option, I'd pick the Titan. I think the Titan is the most underrated pickup on the market.
the titan seems to he a copy of the f150z Electronic locker, similar v8 power numbers and design.
Before you buy that new Ford pick up, check and see what kind of oil pan are you getting--plastic or metal?
MrInzombia yep
@@AStanton1966 polymer pans have been used in the heavy duty trucks for decades. Polymer is used in firearms, and motor oils. They use it to coat steel ammunition casings too.
This isn't fisher price plastic, technology has advanced a little more than that... 👌
@@usmcvet0313
From a fellow vet, I applaud you for that bit of information.
I can't help but just love the Titan I would just give it a lift and new tires myself because it is capable of doing more. Also I like where the skid plate is set. Also, the interior looks alot better.
I wouldn't mind the extra 50 ponds either
Love my 2019 Pro4x. I got a dealer installed (and warranted) 3inch lift from Icon vehicle dynamics. Every goodie available, tri fold hard cover, rock sliders etc. 4k cheaper than a TRD Pro (no options) and a much better truck imho. Couldn't be happier 2 years later.
@@thetacticalape8852 I have the 2020 P4X and no Nissan dealers in my area will install and warranty a lift of any brand. Sucks.
@@grabes1976 That totally sucks. My suspension lift was listed as an optional accessory warranted through Nissan.
@@thetacticalape8852 that’s sweet, man 🔥
Im so in love with the Nissan Titan pro 4x !!
It's a really nice truck!
Titan is a better looking truck than any current trucks in the market including the RAM.
Me too
hell yeah, Nissan did a really good job on this titan
The Awakening that Titan looks worse than the Chevy!
First time Roman has complimented the 2020 Titan... I nearly spilled my beer 🍻 😂! Great review guys. Glad to see the Titan off-road.
Beer this early in the morning? lol
@@souldoctor10 Never to early
Breakfast of champions lol. woooooo. (ric flair voice)
Beer and a nice new truck! sounds like a good time haha
5 o clock somewhere
Let’s see a trd pro tundra vs nissan. I think the titan isn’t getting the credit it deserves
true.
you can get insane deals on the nissan's as well. they always compare the MSRP. before the corona virus, you can get legitimately over $10k off MSRP on the titan's. I know because I almost bought one. goodluck getting a deal like that off a toyota, they don't need to mark them that they because they sell. the only nissan's i would ever buy would be the frontier or the titan.
Who are you kidding? The Tundra is so bad and far behind it shouldn't be tested nor mentioned before they finally launch the next gen.....
No locker on the Tundra.
@@Silidons91 my brother and I negotiated a brand new 2019 tundra 1794 4wd with all the options and some add ons for 48k, but he ended up with a Titan pro4x loaded out with heated and cooled seats, 360 degree cameras etc.
8:24 - "I love my dad"... what every father wants to hear from his kids. You guys sound like a great duo and family, keep up the great work!
Put a 2in lift on the Titan and it’s equal, yet it’s still made it with ease. Don’t be biased on brand.
That's what I was thinking. How much will it change the angles and clearance.
Also, take those idiotic side steps off the titan. Seriously thinking of both trucks for purchase.
Nissan shouldve done that themselves. They did design it afterall.
Z71 vs pro4x seems more comparable
The Titan lags behind in sales for a reason. Like all Nissans, the interior just does not measure up. The exterior honestly looks bland IMO.
@@matthewpowell1670 Compared to the Chevy? Think most people think the other way around.
I'd love to see a 2020 Titan pro4x versus a 2009-2010 stock Pro4x how things really have changed over 10 years
I have a 2007 Titan. If you are talking off-road, I don't think anything has changed as far as capabilities go. The new Titan is basically the same truck, many of the older parts fit on the new Titan.
Probably the same results
The first gen Titan pro4x is a off- road beast. That would really be a shoot out. I can imagine the new engine in the fist gen Titan.
That would be awesome to see
👍 Yes
Titan sounds like a boss. Here is a tip. You all need to air down. You guys have a bad habit of asking trucks to do lockers, sway bar, etc... while not moving. Another tip. Youll find shifting on the fly works better to engage and disengage the bells and whistles. Luvin the videos. Great info and demonstration of the options on the trucks.
That Nissan is finally growing on me. I’d just throw some bfg a/t’s on there and it would complete the truck
Chris Taco just wish the XD or even the regular Titan offered a 36+ gallon tank.
Rick Tatorship i wish the titan offered a front locker on the pro 4x
Gsfbffx Pdhhdf that would be nice, the only truck that has a front locker is the power wagon. I’m sure the vast majority of owners can live without it. Being able to carry more fuel is far more useful imo, especially when towing. GM and Nissan are the only two makers that don’t offer a larger tank as an option in their half-tons.
Rick Tatorship wrong. ZR2 had front locker. And I believe the raptor and the gladiator do as well.
@@jaysson1151
You tank people are hilarious. "It needs a 50 gallon tank for me to buy". *sarcasm*
Technically you went over the razor rocks with the Nissan Titan, with only three wheels doing the work which is really good.
Actually only 2 doing work if you think about it. That front diff is sending power to the wheel in the air. The lock rear two wheels were doing the grunt of the work. Really well built truck!
The Titan has a electronic limited slip in the front that uses the anti-lock brakes to split power when one tire loses traction. They have put this on all their Offroad trucks and SUV's since 2005 and it works really well. Just another thing Nissan does that few others do and the car show hosts never talk about.
@@jeremiahjohnson9942 My 18 is just a SV and I've been impressed how well that brake actuated limited slip works.
@@jeremiahjohnson9942 Can't have American review Japanese trucks, too much bias.
put a 2" lift on the Titan and you're gold
I thought the same thing. Just add a 2" lift and your good. All though I'm partial to the titan, since i have a 2011, no lift and it does just fine. Although my old 96' dodge dakota 4x4 with 4" lift and 31" tires was just as high as the titan. So lots of clearance for normal 4xing. 👍
@@Tess_untamed are titans reliable?
@@tejanoboi7243 VERY RELIABLE
@@chiefdarkhorse7718 Very very reliable or very very very reliable?🤔
@@tejanoboi7243 lol get it like that , i bought F150
I’d take the Titan. The Titan seemed to handle the razor rocks a little bit better than the Chevy. The Titan has a better warranty and the GM trucks are having another recall. This time I believe it is brakes.
And the Nissan has a nicer interior.
Bearing in mind the Armada had a huge issue with undersized brakes leading to warped rotors leading to thousands of Lemon Law Buy Backs. You point a finger, and got three pointing back at you!
@@rocketj7449 Not to mention that Nissan is have problems with transmissions and engines too
@@luvjoebacon2915 GM and Ford are having issues with that 10 speed. While my Titan XD was at the body shop the gave me an expedition. That 10 speed sucked. Went to pass someone while we were on a trip and there was a slam, felt like I tapped the brake, and a grind followed by all kinds of warnings and messages saying shift malfunction and transmission malfunction amd zero acceleration. I quickly let off and after it slowed down to about 45 it started working again. It would always gear hunt between 9th and 10th. Wife and I both regretted taking that thing on the trip instead of her sequoia. We had actually thought about an expedition but after driving it we decided we likes the sequoia better. Plus there is alot less to go wrong. Only plus was the expedition got about 2-3 mpg better highway mileage. City driving was about the same.
@@rocketj7449 You must hold your fingers oddly when pointing then.
So I'm sorry to fact check you guys I do love everything TFL but you have always been hard on the Nissans. They are just better trucks and value for the money. If you spec a Pro-4x Titan with just the leather and convenience package and then spec out a Trail Boss exactly the same they are within $500 of each other. To be exact the Titan is $56,986 out the door and the Trail Boss is $56,476. In your video here the Titan went up the razor rocks easier than any other vehicle you've done ever which you guys kind of just gloss over. Also if you wanted to do a leveling kit on the Titan like the Trail Boss you can find one for $50 to $100 bucks then install yourself in less then two hours. So let me get this straight in your own words, better more powerful engine, better locker, better suspension feel and shocks, better skid plate, better tire size, and yet you still pick the inferior truck. I just don't understand where this constant negative against Nisssn commentary comes from. I have a 2017 Titan Pro-4x and a 2007 Xterra Offroad manual. I would love to come on the show some time in the future and set the record right about why Nissan has and still does make the best Trucks for the money. By the way the Xterra has 270,000 miles on it and has never had any major work done to it. It still goes up and down I70 everyday for work as well. I love your guys shows and mean no ill will.
Haha I doubt u will get a response 😂
I know I do love TFL but after like 5 years of listening to them down play the nissan trucks but show they are better It just bugs me. I have always shopped around at all the brands and still come back to Nissan everytime.
I agree 👍
They don't want to give the Titan love, I will cause I love my 2019 Titan!
My transmission blew at 87k on my 17 pro4x about to buy a diesel at4
The pro4-x was better then the Rubicon and the trail Boss and still they won't give it the credit it deserves.
@Andrew Sully in my opinion it's not only better then the Rubicon but it's better by far. It can tow more, it's faster , has better road handling etc etc.
@Andrew Sully I've pulled a rubicon out of sand recently with my titan..bone stock
@Yuri Orloff people still buy Rams tho and there much worse
@Yuri Orloff I've been in and around the auto industry for 10 years. Nissan and Toyota are very reliable solid trucks, look to the big three for innovation.
Nissan has great trucks and sports cars. Its their SUVs and cars with cvts that suck.
Oh and I'm pretty sure jeeps like the Rubicon are for chicks anyway. Making them all pink and shit lol.
"I love my dad"
Best part. I love seeing you guys share a passion together. Stay close.
I would buy the Nissan
The g80 is designed for many areas of driving. It engages in 2wd as well. Trying doing that with the electric locker. It so engages while on the road driving and does it before you know you needed it.
The Titan cant lock in 2wd? I know Ford's can. And the G80 needs 100rpm difference between left and right tire, so it really only engages after you need it, not before as it needs slip.
@@ALMX5DP But you can get it to engage before the obstacle with some wheel spin on the dirt, then it should stay engaged until you put it out of gear or go over 20 mph. Not as easy as pushing a button, but it too can be prepared ahead of time to take on the hill/obstacle.
I’d take the Titan over the Trail Boss in a heartbeat.
Erik Wise Nissan trucks suck. If they were establish and well made trucks people would desire them
Well I own a 2019 Frontier and have owned a 2010. Out of all the trucks I’ve owned and I’ve owned every brand except toyota the frontier has been the best.
@@keithcollins7435 they are though. Just not as popular because it doesnt have a GM, Ram or Ford badge on it.
Titan has terrible payload capacity. I will take the Trailboss easily over the Titan.
Agreed. Owned an old 2000 Frontier and currently own a 2011. Super well built and dependable trucks. I'm looking at one of these new Titans in the next couple of years if I can afford it.
Nissan with it’s short comings made it look easy
Yuri Orloff could be worse at least it’s not a Chevy!
Yuri Orloff I know it’s better than Chevy trucks from experience
And the 3 inch lifting kit is much cheaper than change a differential
@Yuri Orloff their cars and crossovers are junk, their trucks are actually pretty good. The frontier is outdated but it's also bulletproof.
Yuri Orloff It doesn’t have a CVT and the VK56 doesn’t have cylinder deactivation problems
I know using the same trail isn’t all that fun for you but for viewers it is great. It allows us the ability to observe actual differences. The trail is the constant in each test.😀
More videos featuring the Titan please! It doesn't get the love it deserves.
Titan Pro4x 👌👌👌
You guys, along with Andre, Nathan, and Mr. Truck, convinced me to buy a Trail Boss last month just before Chevy Truck Month ended. I haven’t been disappointed. Thank you for all of your content.
Titan seems to be the far superior truck. I would take that one and give it a 2 inch lift - done. One of the main things I can't get over on the Trail Boss is the looks. Even at this trim level, it looks cheap, inside and out. And for that, it is way too expensive. And yes, this locker is a pain. There are situations where you either go up or you are done. With that waiting time to establish grip, it's not worth more than a good traction control.
At least Nissan is making it look like they're trying in this segment.
Can't say the same for Toyota.
Mike Sweers chief engineer says Toyota's top of the line offroad model the Tundra TRD Pro does not need a locking rear diff. @tfltruck needs to take it up the razor rocks, I bet it will not make it! Not only that but Toyota actually removed the transmission cooler on the 2019 and newer Tundras. Toyota is completely out of touch with the American half-ton truck market.
bUt iTs ReLiAbLe
@@user-gx2bs1vq7w even the new Toyota Hilux comes with a rear diff lock standard.
alienation exactly why I ditched Toyota for a Ram 1500. Will never buy another overpriced Toyota again!
Wait 7 years and let's see if you did the wright decision.
Thank you, TFL! Even in these tough times you have been providing us endless entertainment.
Titan all the way! Change tires and remove running boards, done!
And it has a much better interior than the Chevy.
All true also add a 2 inch lift
@@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix There is nothing wrong with the interior on the Chevy, idk why people cry about that. Ram has the best interior of any brand right now, they get #1... but Chevy isn't that bad.
@@JC-ej3er yes, buuut the Nissans interior is just better, and with the same tires as the chevy and maybe a small lift it's just miles ahead on off road capability too
@@rubenbraekman4515 and with 5k in upgrades to the Chevy to be the same price it will win. This wasnt about what upgrades you have to do but what they come with.
Actually, the Nissan made it up the obstacle easier than the Gladiator, time to put it up against that. 😂
To be honest, there was some snow in that test which would have made the tires less grippy over rocks. Though it did look like part of the issue with the line he first took that hung up a rock under the skid plate.
The first try with the Gladiator they took the right most line, with both of the trucks in this video, they went farther left.
It would be interesting to see the Pro4x and Gladiator compared on the razor rock.
K T the gladiator got scraped ans brutalized
No the nissan needed the pro 4x
I would buy the Titan just for the 5/100BTB warranty.
that's what I did. Nice to know I have 100k warranty.
Mine is for 110,000 BTB warranty. You can't beat that.
@@bc_usa paid extra for that 110k of so how much extra ? Asking for a friend 🤣
So the truck that performed better and you felt most confident in off-road didn't win your off-road test... Yeah, no bias at all...
Was thinking the same thing..
Funny. Talked it up til the end haha
We are all biased. Just realize it and move on.
@@Painfulwhale360 I've already un-subscribed, but thanks for your concern.
HKmaroLS1 I was never concerned if you were subscribed or not.
I sure am glad I watched this video when I did. I was about to go off road in my 2020 ZR2 and it doesn't have any orange stitching or red recovery hooks. I dodged a bullet, thanks TFL!
You are most welcome
Surprisingly the Nissan made it look kinda easy, they have come a long way with the Titan.
Titan is my next truck since it has been running in our family for years now 💪🏻❤️😍
Gladiator: Scrapes frame going up the razor rocks
Trail Boss: Wheel spin until it locks up, and then goes up razor rocks
Pro4x: Hold my beer.. I’m about to do this with less ground clearance, step rails, and mud flaps... and I won’t even scrape.
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That's the video with the Gladiator taking the same line
And still they would choose the Chevrolet?? I am confused
Different line with the gladiator.
Think they choose it cause everything else in it offroad tech wise (slower crawl), more capacity, better offroad tires.
The video I watched shows the Nissan scraping, they even replayed it showing the skid plate bending. You can hear it hit something in the undercarriage about a minute later. Not sure what you watched lol. Still did it with ease.
The Nissan was more because they got a fully loaded pro4x with the luxury package. Take off the luxury package and they'd be alot closer in price.
rochab77 man the luxury
is just inside all the pro4 x are the same on the outside engine differential and suspension the only thing that change is the transmission they add up 2 more gears that it I know because I own one a pro4 c xd 2017
You can get quite a bit $ off a 2020 Titan right now for a better buy and a 5year 100k bumper-bumper warranty.
@@torobololo I have a 2016 CD platinum reserve. Wish they offered the diff lock. I have the GDP tunes sotf 0, +30,60,90 and 120hp tunes on ezlynk. Totally different truck now. No reason dead pedal, throttle lag, nada. Runs like it should have to begin with. Love the baby Cummins. Just as stable as my f250 towing but has a better ride. Love my XD. I never run more than the 60hp because it's more than enough. Love the shift on the fly tunes!
And to further that, you can't even load up a trail boss. No power fold mirrors, no auto dim mirrors, no cooled seats...the list goes on. My 45k f150 has auto dim mirrors for crying out loud.
@@79random it has everything but cooled seats. I have one. And before that an 18 f150 and yea the auto dim drivers side mirror was nice but this thiing is high enough its never been an issue and i have ceramic 3m 20% tint so it is dim anyway.
Damn, the Nissan did this trail easier than the Trail Boss did. Less effort, smoother, and it looks way better. Seats are more comfortable, interior is much better looking... Impressed with the refresh. I wonder how the road manners are, like MPG, everyday towing, long term comfort on road trips, etc. I know how it is in the Trail Boss, and it's not impressive at all, so hopefully it's better than that.
No it didn't, it scraped everywhere lol. It did well but but lets not exaggerate. Both of them still preferred the Trail Boss to the way more loaded up tester that Nissan just completely redesigned. That being said it looks like sales will go pretty much the same way as well...as has been the case in the past as well. Nissan has made significant strides though, and I appreciate that. Having had an Armada for work for six months though, they aren't for me. The little tiny steering wheel was my biggest pet peeve. It was outright silly.
@@ashes2ashes863 I'm more excited to see how the Frontier does with its refresh to be honest. It'll be great to see how the old one does with the new engine, but they have a chance to make good sales as many people swear by the Frontiers. I hate the seating position of Tacomas and Colorados, hopefully the Frontier's will be better. The current one certainly is.
@@BradChadley I actually admire that Nissan kept the frontier the same for as long as I did but unfortunately in the car world that's why everybody's going to bash them. I never agree with constantly redoing a vehicle if the old one works. Of course the EPA will probably get involved and force Nissan to have to squeeze every drop of fuel too. It just isnt natural anymore and is probably going to affect drivability. The biggest heartache I really have with the Titan though is the look. I know looks are subjective but that truck is just ugly to me and it always was. The Armada I had to drive was hideous. I like the engine and the transmission. But the vehicle itself was just ugly in my opinion. It also had a lot of electrical Gremlins that seemed really silly in my opinion. Sensor issues and things that Nissan should have had figured out a long time ago. They seemed to do okay with their bread and butter stuff but a lot of the more optioned out Vehicles have a lot of those little issues pop up a lot and seems.
Ashes 2 Ashes the trail boss has a two inch lift
@@omarherrera2951that's just so the driver's in-law can't reach the door handle.
Ive beeen waiting for this for how many days....finally tfl got my cravings
I know, right... the Silverado/Titan mashup was on my list as well
So a 2 inch lift and Goodyear wrangler wheels cost $5k?
👍 yes.
@@stevornrichards1380 and the ability to say you arent driving a fn nissan. I gave up ford after 20 years for a trailboss. And yea its that badass,
I'm a Silverado guy myself but I really do like those titans. Tommy is a pretty funny guy just to add 😂
I am in love with that red titan.
Bow-Tie, till I die! So far, they have been very good to me, no reason to look at anything else. And I have had over 8 Chevy truck, either my own or my business truck, kept for 6 yrs. or 300,000 miles whichever came first, never had them more than 5.5yrs
Lol im 31 years old and only had 2 trucks in my life, an 08 Titan from 2008-Today with just under 300k on it and a 2017 Titan Platinum Reserve. Lol who Still dailys their first truck they bought at 18? Haha
Bet you never owned a 04 Chevy Colorado with that crappy in line five cylinder engine.I made the mistake buying that one new and it was junk.
@@thunderroad7289 One of my best friends did the same thing and the interior of that truck fell apart ever quicker than the engine did 🤣
I have a Black Chevrolet Silverado LT Trail Boss and absolutely love it. Constantly get compliments on it from people. Aggressive looking stance catch people’s attention.
Amazing off road and on road capabilities! Best value and quality in the segment.
Trail Boss and coffee. Great way to start a Saturday! Thanks TFL!
Titan is the most underrated truck in the full size segment. Very capable
The Nisan wheelbase is 139.5 in either king or crew cab configuration. Almost 8 inches less than the trail boss at 147.4. With a mild lift and 34 inch tires the Pro 4X might be a bit of a sleeper. Still thinking an F150 122" WB regular cab FX4 with a camper shell might be the best backwoods beast, provided you only need to carry 2 or 3 people.
I am a Titan owner over 4 yrs with mines and it has been the best completely 0 issues over 160,000 miles and still runs strong
I'm a Chevy guy so I would buy a Chevy regardless, but that Nissan has really stepped up their game and I really like that Titan. Both are great trucks in my opinion and great video fellas, yall all do great work!
Nice job guys. My boys and I are Z71 guys, have jumped and crawled all over Colorado.
I really like these trucks, and if I had the money would be glad to have both. This is coming from a Tundra owner. Great video guys!
At lead your tundra and the Titan are reliable unlike chevy
@@ToGrimmToWin You should tell my brother who had nothing but problems with his Titan of crap.
To only trade it off on a used Tundra.
And the Chevy built in Mexico, I saw the vin. The titan USA buddy
And that Mexican built Chevy will last longer than anything American built! When us Americans stop being cry babies, and learn how to build vehicles that don't fall apart in 200 miles, only then would I be happy to buy an American built vehicle.
@@JohnDoe-nz6bk Thats a blatant lie. Titan, and Tundra are built in America. Both are very well built trucks. Lets not forget the Tacoma and Frontier. Come on now.
The ext cabs (shorter than crew cab) are built in Fort Wayne Indiana while the heavy-duty are from Flint Michigan. Much rather have the ext. cabs anyway because i dislike the 5ft bed.
I'd love to see a couple of you guys get like 3 budget off roaders together, and do like a top gear style weekend, and make a good 3 or 4, 20 minutes videos out of it.
I'm going with my Titan 5ltr S.L. 4×4
Turbo Cummins 2017. The 6 speed Isenberg transmission has not been a problem. Guess I got lucky.
I dont know about these trucks, but as a brand Nissan has treated me MUCH better than Chevy, both the dealers and the service department. That might seem minor but to me its a huge difference.
I love this channel. I didn’t have brothers or a dad and I’m buying my first pickup truck. I do drive 18 wheels but that’s another story. I appreciate the virtual trip ! 10 speed 10 speed 10 speed sold.
“ you can put orange or red hooks on any car and make it good off-road” = lmao 🤣
So it's like stickers on a "race car" makes it faster. ;)
Paul Anderson Do you have add a 2” lift before or after you have the orange painted toe hooks? 🤔
You forgot to mention black alloy wheels and a hi lift jack. That combo will make you unstoppable when added to the red hooks!
The blacked out grills add the finishing touch.
Actually the real reason off roaders started painting their recovery points bright colors is so they are easy to find when the truck is sunk up to the floors in sticky mud and your mate is trying to attach the snatch strap.
The nissian did better the the Jeep gladiator rubicon
The gladiator was bad because it was too long and dose not have enough ground clearance.
They took both trucks up the line where the gladiator went up. If they brought them on the normal line, they probably would have bottomed out same as the gladiator
YES that is a TRUE locking differential!!
GM has been using them since the 70s before anyone else!! Ford and Chrysler used to use a limited slip, yes a car's traction device in a truck!!
GM did it first and it works!!
GM's performance car's use a limited slip differential!!
GM trucks used an Eaton g80 locking differential since the 70s!
I'm a huge off roaded and they work great!!
PhillLsx Ga. praising the G80 despite its shortcomings? Why?
I had that same differential in my 89 three-quarter ton 4 x 4 suburban. It was scary sometimes when it would engage, you had to plan for it. Truck is way better off road after I had a Detroit locker installed but it was more difficult to drive on road especially in the snow. I have the e-locker in my Xterra. You have to plan ahead with it because it may take a while to engage like you saw in the video. Nothing works perfect I guess lol.
Shhhh. People in youtube comments aint big fans of facts🤫
@@artificialdopamine6542 not just RUclips!!
Great review of the new Titan. My 2017 sv 4x4 Titan been great on and off road. I leveled it a 1.5 kit and put 20in wheels and 275.60.20 bfg/ko2's under it.
Funny no mention of warranty because Nissan has 5/100 and Chevrolet 3/36 standard.. to me that's a buying point . Thanks for your time and effort on this channel.
Just bought my Titan Pro 4x yesterday, take delivery in a week or so! Thanks for all the videos comparing them.
Great video guys! Tommy has really become a pro car journalist! Great review, informative and entertaining.
IDK why but the dynamic duo between Tommy and Roman really stood out to me this video. Loving the content!
my camry has red stitching...im taking that puppy off road as per Tommy saying red or orange stitching improves the off road capability
Put in a 3-inch lift and you would have the coolest Camry off all time!
I’ll say it the Titan looks really good! $100 and you can get a 1.5 lift in the front of the Titan to help.
Are suspension lifts available for the Titan? Maybe replacement arms?
@@JI814 Yes all kinds of cheap and expensive lifts for the titan. You can find all kinds of long travel stuff also.
Yep, my next Titan will be A Pro4X. I did buy a 2 to 2.75 “ leveling kit for my 2WD SV.
For $100 that would be a leveling kit & that reduces your suspensions potential articulation. For street look OK for off road no. Put on an adjustable height off road shock like Bilsteins
jim nielsen $100? He was probably talking about a body lift 🤣🤣🤣
The Titan Pro4X made Razor Rocks and Dare ‘no drama’. Another 2” lift like the Z71 has and the Titan would get it all done. Bigger tires on Z71?Impressive for both trucks, but esp the updated Titan Pro4X. Nissan if you’re looking for the Panoramic as well as off-road.
Pillows & kale, love it! Who needs a Honda Civic when you have a damped tailgate.
Old Civic are mich better in conditions offroad than this two big whales.
His comment was pretty funny, but honestly I loved having the dampened tailgate, I hate that big bang and the cringe it gives when you drop the tailgate
I've owned Chevrolet trucks many years. It makes sense to me that forcing the G80 to lock just before you hit a known tough spot on trail makes it easier to control. And with my experience it doesn't disengage until the truck hits a higher speed (approx 20mph) than the speed you use rock crawling.
I think it also disengages when you you let off the gas or come to a stop. Then the tire has to spin again to lock. So, if you keep the pressure on it will stay locked. This is just from my experience. Would be an interesting test to find out.
Great video guys. You are still able to put out quality content is really appreciable, stay safe. This time round there isn't much snow near razor rocks that's why actually these trucks were able to go pass it. I don't think any other off road will face issue doing it now
Love the Titan, great Truck. Always like Chevy til around 70k miles. Time to trade it in before the problems start. I would take that Titan any day. It impressed me climbing the rocks. Very capable.
Is it just me or did the Titan dominate this test?
I know one things for sure - the interior in the Nissan is miles ahead of the Chevrolet. GM's center stack design is just bland at best.
You can already tell the first 7 minutes of the video these two were going to vote the trail boss as the better truck way before the titan was gonna do its run. Titan for me did a better run, even with crappy tires
But the payload on Nissan is just 1200, really nothing. A cubic yard of top soil is 2000 lbs... A cubic yard of sand is 3000 lbs, half a cord of firewood is 2000 lbs, so this Titan is basically is no good for any practical purposes.
@@npast1 I know it should be better equipped from factory but you could just run airbags right ?
@@npast1 Its not designed to be a work truck. Its made for off road fun.
@@bc_usaBut so is Trail Boss -- specifically designed for off-road, but its payload it more by a four hundred lbs. Nissan's payload is a teeny 1267 lbs same as what I have on my mid-size ZR2, which by the way is a much more capable off-road vehicle.
I have noticed that Tommy often refers to spring rate when he talks about shocks. This makes it unclear for me what he is actually referring to because spring rate is defined as amount of weight needed to compress a spring one inch. Whereas, shocks dampen the compression and rebound of the suspension and is refered to as compression and rebound damping. I believe what Tommy means to say with his comments about shocks relates to the effectiveness of the shocks in controlling suspension compression and rebound in an appropriate manner.
goomgoom a softer spring is needed for off roading. Stiffer spring for towing. Some vehicles offer progressive spring rates which are best of both worlds.
LSanti agreed, it’s just when Tommy is talking about shocks he often refers to spring rate which is not very clear. Where as, if he was talking about springs then his comments on spring rate make sense.
The Pro 4X package should come with a 2” lift like the Trail Boss package
I’d take Titan any day over anything GM puts out.
Sekekama WoW I understand but nobody is buying the Titan. Why aren’t you buying one and help Nissan sell trucks
Chevrolet trucks outsell Nissan almost 12 to 1
@@keithcollins7435 just because one is more popular, you think it's better?
@@ALMX5DP
GM is offering many more choices with their trucks. Nissan not so much. Optioned properly, it will outperform the Titan in most every category.
@@EdMiF options and choice are good, but most customers wont need or care what outperforms another on a spec sheet (especially as incrementally as it does). Both are good trucks, so I'm merely providing contrast to the previous comment that suggests that popularity is the only reason to choose one over the other.
You know i got to say.. i see rock crawler videos a lot as well as videos like this comparing trucks.. And my little 1984 nissan 720 with Goodyear Wrangler Radial All Season Tires would easily go up and down any and all the trails you've shown with no issues at all, in fact other than swampy mud and loose cravel it never had issues, if not for getting T bones when a guy ran the red light i'd still be rocking it today.
I don't like that G80...I'd rather lock it before I hit the obstacle not wait to get stuck.
Nicholas Desmarais not to mention, this rear end being mentioned as a 'grenade'. "New GM" doesnt make things to last like they used to. Id also trust a 4l60e before I touched that 10 speed.
LRulesTheWorld The only way a G80 will “grenade” is if an inexperienced driver is applying ridiculous amounts of throttle over and over again while the locker is engaging. Then obviously things will break. If you use it how you are supposed to they will last the lifetime of the truck. And the new 10 speed is an excellent transmission, super smooth and very reliable. I own a trail boss too, remember it was co developed with ford. And I can guarantee it’s better than those horrible old 4L60’s.
LRulesTheWorld that 10 speed was co-designed with ford and is actually a fantastic transmission. Its in the mustangs, f150s, camaros and silverados. Its very reliable, I cant say the same for nissan. Might want to look into their differential issues on titans....
Most people who offroad a Chevy pickup full size do not rock crawler but they will be doing other types of off-roading hunting, fishing, farming, and perhaps mud,
sand, wooded trails. I would think a 5.3 would get the job done. I also have an 89 S10Blazer that we put Rancho shocks on and do the other types of offroading and it is a good truck. The Chevy locking rear has gotten the job done in my Blazer in mud, sand, snown, hill climbing, water crossing while hunting and getting through sand going fishing around the beach. Rock crawling is more sport offroading ... For that a Jeep Wrangler or Zr2 Chevy Colorado. Looks like Jeep attacks rock better straight on while Chevy takes the side approach .. But zr2 better in sand desert jumping.. Tommy is the Bison better in rock crawling than Zr2 would like to see a video... Good job Tommy and the gang...
I’d buy the Titan for sure
Love the channel and the honest reviews, I'm in the market and looking at both of these trucks at the moment, granted here in Fl I won't be doing crazy off roading like you guys, but it was super helpful seeing the proof in both these handsome trucks.
I think the Nissan will be dropping in price after this month, I've already seen a few loaded Titans go for under 50k which is a steal.
Thanks for keeping us entertained during these strange times, and keep up the good work fellas !!!
Can't get enough of these truck reviews, thank you for actually testing these in the real world. Very informative and entertaining. Cheers.
British?
Nissan's been producing an offroad Titan since 04, it's about time some one noticed LOL. It's still largely the same truck with an updated front clip, interior, and transmission.
Still waiting on some Trail Boss mods like you did for the Rebel. Trail Boss all the way!
Some pretty Awesome entertainment on a boring Saturday... Thanks again guys..have a good weekend.⭐⭐⭐
I'm impressed with the Titan. Looks good too!
I’m a Chevy guy and would take the trail boss with no question, but Nissan did a good job themselves
Agreed. I personally prefer the Chevy also, but the titan is definitely a close competitor
As someone who was ase certified and sold parts and worked on Chevy I'll tell you if not take one unless it's free
@@ToGrimmToWin well at least they've got the ten speed in this one the 8 speed is a turkey as I'm pretty sure you know.
It's a nine speed not 8
Christopher Shawver 8 speed and 10. The Silverado never had a 9 speed.
I've learned with my g80 to use a lot of throttle on every obstacle. Gotta use your left foot to control your speed with the brakes, and it can be a "refined" experience. Maybe. Haha
Nissan seems to be a much better truck both up the rocks and in the interior.
I almost bought a Titan King Cab in 04 that 5.6 sounded good and pulled good.It was a good option for GP's
Based on off road history of both manufactures of GM & Nissan, I believe that Nissan Titan is more capable of the Chevy Silverado. Manual rear locker is plus for the Titan compare to the automatic and I know fact that cost of automated locker is far cheaper to manufacture than normal locker. Regarding the approach angle, front, rear and brake angle it could easily be solved by 2 inch lift. Nissan & Toyota is far better is terms of Off Road as they do live for the challenge over and over for years. They do have far better life in terms of engine reliability, cooling system, CV, low gear, shocks, etc... I do believe that Chevy Silverado is well equipped Off Road with ground clearance and better tires but in the long run Chevy cannot live as long as Nissan Titan or Patrol same story as Toyota Tundra or the legend Land Cruiser. Its just my opinion based on what I have driven and see specially that I live in Yemen located in the southern tip of the Arabian peninsula and SUV or 4wd in general is common here at home...
Chevy can’t live as long as the titan? Are you kidding with that????
@@ferngully3481 I prefer the titan over the chevy but you're right, and I won't knock chevys engines. They have really mastered the pushrod engine, and the engines really do last. They just really fell behind with the interior in my opinion, but that's subjective.
You are not a nerd you just a very smart guy with a very good
@@ferngully3481 Its true. Do your homework.