@@ranaky9416 sure, but wait till your crush starts talking to you, everyday, about nothing and everything. It'll drive you insane. I'm speaking from experience regrettably.
Middle aged INTP here. I've rarely had any sort of conflict with an INTJ. They've typically been very kind to me, which has usually left me just a little bit baffled and confused, but very grateful to them for treating me like a human being. I've shared the story many times before, but one of my fondest memories from my younger years is when I had both an INTJ (now deceased, RIP) and ENTP in my little social circle, and I got the opportunity to watch them debate anything and everything the ENTP could think up with which to poke at the INTJ. No one got upset or had their feelings hurt. It was mental sparring and it was great. The SJs and others in the group would get worried and unhappy with their "arguing," but that was because they didn't understand the NT mind.
I was thinking it takes a lot to upset us , and yes, we love the true nerds something awful. For myself, I can only take so much debate, but I never flame, I’ll just drop out until the time is right to pick up again or move on. I’ve never even unfriended someone because of an argument, just for rudeness
I've always been curious how the other types (non-INTJs) see my verbal sparring with someone else. To me, a debate is a wonderful time. I relish few things more in life than an honest, straightforward debate. However, I've had others confront me that it was being "too harsh" when debating others. At first, I thought this was nonsense. However, when more and more people kept mentioning it, I started asking whoever I had debated if they thought I was being harsh. The answer was almost always, "No! Why would you think that?" Quite curious that the two people debating didn't think anyone was being harsh or overly critical, but people who witnessed it had.
@@SlimThrull I (INTP) find it entertaining and sometimes educational... which is the same thing, more often than not. Most other types seem to be interested in social harmony (which I'm all for, but social avoidance is more my speed) and/or what they "feel is true" (oy vey, that one hurts) over ACTUAL truth. While we may have biases on certain topics (grilled cheese sandwiches are to be cut DIAGONALLY, you BARBARIANS!), we NTs understand there's a gap (frequently a chasm) between feelings and truth. Social niceties like tone of voice and body language take a back seat. We may stare hard at someone with a scowl of concentration. Fe-types get the impression we're angry, but we're just contemplating the implications of what's being discussed. Fi-types can't let go of their biases and assume we must be passionate about our side of the argument. We're just trying to make use of the opportunity to more fully understand the concepts being thrown around and gain a clearer insight into how reality functions... because that's what we do. Some non-NTs can do it well enough, particularly if they've spent enough time with NTs, but it's foreign to them... like asking a typical INTP to dance.
@@CheriFields Your last sentence is so true. I can debate for hours as long as there is no underlying threat or belittling of another's ideas. I debated with an INTP once and as soon as he had an underlying threat in his tone, I shut it down and walked away.
I'm glad you pointed out that we're idealists deep down. Our problem is believing in how things "should be" while also being so pessimistic about people.
INTJ here, my boyfriend is ISTP and we still haven't mourdered anyone, but we completed many projects and ideas together. I usually do the plan, and he does the action-reaction when something interrupt our plan. Simple example of what happend one summer: I plan the whole day for us. Everything was going well, we still had one thing to do before we go to the restaurant, but we overheard a schooltrip [aka many hungry kids and teachers] was heading to the restaurant that moment, so my boyfriend said, that we needed to f**k the plan for a moment, run as fast as we could to that restaurant to order food before the kiddo-army take the place. We did as he suggested, decided to eat our ordered food outside of the restaurant, and while eating I could peacefully make ajustements to my plan. The rest of the day went fine. It's a rether simple story, but it shows well how we cooperate. So as much as I don't know anything about James Bond I think you've describe it decently.
This list might differ for male and female INTJs and also age / maturity. As a female INTJ in my early 30s, I’d say that INFJs are the type who are the same as us (instead of ENTJs), except they are nicer. People who don’t know me well enough might confuse me for an INFJ since I can play the social game when I have to. I don’t see INFJs as wasting their skill. I actually admire their ability to use their intuition and apply it towards people rather than ideas. It comes in handy a lot in life, as evidenced by the fact that they can even get me to adore and respect them which is a tough thing to do!! And as you get older, you also develop an appreciation for people who can navigate the “science of people” more and more. Also, my experience with INFJs has been that we always come to the same conclusions but we come to those conclusions in different ways. ENTJs are also similar to INTJs but INFJs have way more similarities with us in my opinion.
I want to add to this that different types bring out different sides to each person. When I am with an INFJ, I feel like I am home. Like I am understood 100%. And my softness and affection comes out more because I am around someone who won’t judge me and take the time to try to understand me and give me the benefit of the doubt. When I am around ENTJs, my hardness comes out (but not in a bad way). We’re like a power couple, very dynamic and every conversation ends in world domination. I also can be myself around ENTJs but the side of myself that comes out most often around them is the side that I don’t necessary like all the time. So ENTJs can appeal to my ambitious side which is a part of me but a larger part of me is my desire to understand and theorize about the world and the only type that can get me to enter that zone fully and immerse myself in it is the INFJ, because that is also their primary mode of living.
I love the INTJs in my life and also admire some of the fictional characters. I wish I had their honesty and their deep hearts. INTJs are very caring, but they curate and prioritize who and what they care about and don't waste their affection by sending it in what are probably fruitless directions. Their approach to relationships makes so much sense to me and I love that confidence and shameless self focus that they embody so well.
@@signalfire15 I think I get what you’re saying, especially since my INFJ dad has always been one of my favorite people in the world. But he spends most of his time helping people (psychiatrist) while I’m only willing to follow in a similar path to become a counselor in my late forties. The temptation is not to think that people are worthless but that they take up so much energy I could be spending making a real difference.
100% agree with everything you said here. My older sibling is an ENTJ, and while we're quite similar in many ways, our interactions are much more "cut throat" and almost always revolve around achieving/conquering and discussing practical real world strategies related to that. Which can be great, but despite the fact that I'm probably even more ambitious and cut throat than he is, it eventually starts to feel overbearing, and deep down it always feels that I can't quite "be myself" for lack of a better word. If I truly let out the things I most want to discuss ("theorizing about the world" as you said) the ENTJ won't be interested and will mostly just see it as unnecessary mental masturbation. Or anything that involves personal vulnerabilities, weaknesses etc. they'll be very uncomfortable with. As a result it always feels like I'm hiding the deepest aspects of myself, whereas with INFJ that can all come out and is openly received and understood. It's like being at home with another version of myself, but a softer one, which is nice. Our differences can cause us to clash at times (INTJ desire for cold hard truth at all costs versus INFJ wanting to appeal to people's sensitivities - this can be frustrating for both types), but that difference can also provide a nice counterbalance if both individuals are mature.
One thing I can say is INTJ is good companion for INFJ, like me and my cousin. INFJs can have issues with actualizing their ideas and while trying to be organized, it's not as clean. INTJs can understand where you want to go and can push you in that path without sugar coating (more efficient). Beneficial symbiosis, gives the edge to INFJs desire for perfection that it wants to share with others including fellow INTJ. One example of that interaction is the Oracle and Architect from Matrix trilogy. One is designing the system, other is probing the system, searching for issues within in search of perfection of the Matrix.
Yep, same for me (INTJ) and my friend (INFJ), who's a hikka and I always struggle to push him out of his chamber, while he often tries to soften me and make me be nicer or more considerate towards the world.
Perfectly said, my best friend is an INFJ and we’ve debated everything. Called eachother every name in the book the whole 9 but when I need another perspective I go to him
I'm an INTJ married to an INFJ. We weren't familiar with the Myers-Briggs model when we began dating, but we recognised and were attracted to each other's intuitive lens. I've found INFJs make excellent companions for INTJs. INFJs are the best (bias acknowledged). We have a fourteen-year-old INTP son. Our household discussions terrify, irritate or intrigue most people. We dial it down when we venture out.
I'm INTJ and my best friend is ESFP, I don't see a lot of content about the 2 of us but what you said is so accurate it's hilarious. The fact that my weakness is her strength and vice versa makes us the perfect duo. We learn a lot from each other and I always have fun, I really believe that as an INTJ, I developed my weakest functions thanks to seeing and experimenting her way of living.
I'm INTJ and my wife is ESFP. We are in the middle of a divorce. Thing is we are just too different and can never complete each other. She find me heartless and boring while I find her dumb and impulsive. In the end of the day she can't appreciate my intelligent and I can't provide her with the emotional needs she desire.
@@seriouslysarah1665 I believe in that case it’s not a question of personality type but maturity of the person It’s the same with any personality in the end, I believe you can get along with anyone when they are mature enough to recognise our differences and accept them, not trying to change is The reason it works so well with my friend is that she never expects me to do things I hate and vice versa. I met other esfps and it was not the case
can i just say, as an infp, i think all your intj comments are absolutely adorable. i know they are not supposed to be. but for some reason, it just tickles me to see how even your comments abstain from getting personal and read like a professor grading a student presentation...about yourself 🤣 also, about 15:45, the feeling is reciprocated :)
As an INTJ I always admire your efficiency, practicality, straight to the point, by always giving the important and useful information, in a simpler way. Great video !
I have typed my dad as an INTJ. He has once said to me that he finds more interest in things than people. As an INFJ, I almost envy his ability to focus on and be more passionate about more 'practical' matters like engineering. I too have an interest in science and learning how the world works and use opportunities surrounding these topics to bond with him. While I have learned to embrace my interest in people and psychology, it would be nice to be able to disconnect from the emotional side of my brain more often which can be so tightly linked to my relations with other people like he can.
The world needs more people helpers, it’ll be a good life at the end. In fact, I’m hopping over to help you guys as a mature INTJ. You might take up a practical hobby like my INFJ dad does and build things. Of course, if you do it all your own unique way, people might think the results are eccentric, but who cares if it works 😂
I am an INTJ with a deep interest in people and psychology (not so much engineering or science, although I do spend a lot of time on those subjects too), and I'm sure many here who are into mbti are the same. The main difference that is interesting here is in the approach and the process of arrival toward the motivation to pursue whatever it is that is interesting to each, rather than the contents of what you find interesting (although of course, there is no doubt correlation in that regard as well).
Don't even waste your time trying to be less emotional or compassionate..it's your nature...there's nothing wrong or more important than being a compassionate human being...
@mckamy4711 I get furious when people don't care about things ,ones I even said to my brother that " you can't take care of non-living objects how will you take care of alive people "
We are always semi-connected to our emotions. We FEEL them very very deeply but they do not really guide what we do, which often makes life even more painful. Nietzsche talked about this as a kind of "cruelty" to ourselves in the name of "honesty" and "intellectual conscience." When this cruelty runs out of control we can be very cruel to others even though it is not what we want in our hearts.
For context I'm an INTJ. What you were saying in the INFP section is surprisingly accurate at least for me. I don't know many other INTJs but I went through a phase where I had multiple imaginary worlds. I could just sit down and completely zone out for a good hour.
Agreed about the multiple worlds thing. I have so many I had start writing it down in google docs to get them out of my head. Now I have 500+ google docs😂
as an infp, I have a world for my future, a world for each of my media obsessions, a world for mbti, previous story idea worlds, and my current one which I finally decided to turn into a book-
I have two sisters. One is an INTJ, and the other is an ESFJ. Disagreements and misunderstandings abound between them, but they do understand that they each have good intentions, so the relationship is good by their own force of will. General interactions between them are interesting, to say the least, as they have no common ground other than their shared history. I am often the mediator, though I tend to struggle with the ESFJ *almost* as much. - an ISTJ
As an INTJ,: 1) I absolutely adore ENFPs! My grandma is an ENFP too. She is so cute! The most light-hearted, bubbly, kind people - ENFPs 2) While I relate a lot with INTPs. It seems they do everything in the wrong way (in my perspective) but still they are right beside me. They're like my biggest competitors but closest people. They seem to be a bit less advanced (not in a negative way, just less weird) than us 3) INFJs are also pretty relatable. They seem to be a more advanced (also not in a negative way) version of us. Essentially, they are more socially compatible, but they're a bit less "thoughtful/intellectual" than INTJs. Basically the better version. But I think sacrificing the first part for the second part is better. I mean INFJs are more "socially accepted". 4) ISTJs are the most loyal people. They always follow the textbook like us, but unlike us, they don't improvise to make it more efficient. I'm surrounded by these personality types so I've no idea about others. [My English is not good]
INFJs are way more socially capable, but if you look inside their heads, you may find things way more disturbing... INTJs on average are disappointed idealists turned cynics who seek trust and understanding. Not arguing for who is worse or better, I just think INFJs can be both the best and the worst people you know(and it can even be just 1 person being both...)
Omg your point about intps is so accurate about me and my friend. My intp friend often gives me a run for my money when it comes to being knowledgeable and curious...and I love her for it.
I somewhat get what you're saying, but what do you mean exactly with your usage of the word "advanced"? Maybe there's a synonymous word that works better here, like intangible or abstract?
"While I relate a lot with INTPs. It seems they do everything in the wrong way..." Yeah, as an INTP, that jives with my experience. INTJs have set procedures, optimized over time and experience, for just about everything. INTPs haven't even considered most of the things on which INTJs have already come to conclusions. We get caught up in all the "what if?" scenarios in our heads and lack practical application... but we can also follow sound, logical reasoning and we're not argumentative (despite what some think). INTJs deal with "real world" scenarios better than us most of the time, while we have our heads in the clouds. At the same time, INTJs seem strangely patient with us, never taking offense and being willing to discuss any topic, which is just about all we ever want from others.
*INTJ* here ☆ who finds myself around ENTJs at work & I admire their more *"carefree"* nature. Friends tend to be xNFx types which is different but appreciated. As I learn more about the world, starting to further appreciate *action-orientedness.*
INTJ dilemma: it would be nice to have a group in which I really belong but simultaneously, I need my space and when would I have time to fit others in to do fun stuff together when I'm already busy with my own plans and schemes. It's all about being your own best nemesis in some respects, lol.
LMAO, tho, my BFF since we were 14 (1975!) is an ESFP! A day with her is like a week with others...so it can totally fill me up for good stretches of solitude.
ENTJ with an INTJ mom and the impulsive is probably real 😂. She does struggle sometimes to adapt but when we are together she leans on me to do it which works out great. I also have many INTP friends and I think the INTP description was spot on haha! I really love INTJs and INTPs 🫶
How on earth did you make friends with an INTP and how did you even manage to find them irl? What kind of environment? I don't get how people break the ice so easily, and I don't get how they have such social skills. Indeed, I've touched grass, but
INTJ here. My closest friends are INTP and ISTP, and all about those two types in this video is true. Most of the time, in the group, the INTP thinks about many things then comes to conclusion, the ISTP thinks about how to use this conclusion and me, after listening to them for while, take their conclusion, find all the problems about it, and then, find another conclusion. The fun fact about this is that it can be infinite. I can tell you that when we are together, it would be better for someone to not enter the conversation by saying something stupid or not justified, you'd be seen as stupid or not interesting for the rest of your life.
@@afrosamourai400 Indeed. I also had been with the others analysts at the same time (the "same time" is important lol), I let you imagine how it went (ego battle of knowledge)
Your analogy of Ni vs. Ne was great. I am an INFP and I never master something before moving on, but I always go back to things that were very valuable to me, and I carry with me the first exploration, plus integration of all other experiences I’ve had in the meantime.
Sounds about right to me. Particularly true regarding ESFPs (I used to work with some ESFPs who were totally the opposite of me but who I nevertheless respected and found interesting, and I know they were fascinated by me too.) Also true with ISFP, as one of my closest friends is an ISFP who absolutely does bring out my artistic and emotional side in a way no one else can.
Couldn't have said any of this better myself, you sure know exactly what we INTJs see in others! I do have an ISTP friend who I play competitive multiplayer video games with, which, as you may suppose, do involve murder in a sense.😅His ability to solve practical problems quickly and accurately is admirable, especially when the action in the games we play is so fast.
the brilliance of intps always strikes me anew and unexpectedly. I don't notice it in myself, an intp, but when I see this in the wild, it's breathtaking. I love your channel
I think INTJs are a type that's prone to in-experience with other types, with the exception of brief interactions in a professional setting - which doesn't give us much time for opinions unfortunately - and we tend to want to/be comfortable with keeping to ourselves; a desire which different personalities are going to bounce off of differently. A mature INTJ will greet most neutral intrusions with a smile and an open mind ~ (even if the smile is solely internal!)
Thanks for this summary, Nathan. There's a reason that INTJs are dubbed as "The Mastermind", since they're usually one step ahead of everyone else, and extremely astute.
Sounds about right about how I think INTJs tend to see me (INTP), normally I get the impression that they overestimate me which is usually not the case with other personality types. I'm well-read on topics that concern my job or that I'm obsessed with for other reasons, well RUclips-video'd on topics that amuse me (e.g. MBTI typing), and well Wikipedia'd on topics that intrigue me or that I'm completely ignorant of, but I'm not curious enough about (yet) to want to explore in much depth.
INFJ here & I relate strongly to INTJs. For me- context is everything. I understand how the 'social chameleon-ness' could be perceived of as disingenuous, however- it's efficiency and outcome that direct my social interaction & reaction. Its not inauthentic, rather- it's more the volume on certain things gets turned up and other things down- tweaked for best outcome. Idk if other INFJs feel this way- but I wanted to try & explain that particular phenomena
Very spot on. And with my Si experience with all the INTJs I have in my life and love dearly, I see this kind of communication and to us it leads to mutual understanding and respect, even if we function so differently. (ISFJ)
I’m an INTJ (f) and my boyfriend is an ISTJ. We will usually either think the exact same way or come up with ideas/reasonings that the other could never think of (which drives me a little insane). I saw somewhere that INTJs and ISTJs might find it hard to think of things to talk about and I find that’s true for us as well.
When doing things together with my INTJ friend, we have lots of same thoughts and we have the same style of ordering other people aswell. But once we have nothing to do, it really is hard for us to start a convo, it already is hard just by being both introverted and judging, but our ni and si is so contradicting while still having similarities
I am the opposite: I'm an ISTJ and my husband is INTJ. We get along good...but he's a talkative INTJ and I am super quiet. It can be difficult at times to balance our different personality quirks ..but we manage.
Just talk about intellectual things, both types enjoy it. I really struggle when having smalltalks but I can take dominance of the conversation when it has some "goal" or purpose.
The ENFP portion got me thinking. I'm curious whether you could do a video on how each of the 16 types plays Skyrim.. As an INTJ, I have been playing Skyrim since it came out 10 years ago. I always take my time in every area, being sure to thoroughly scour every corner for loot, enemies and everything, so as to miss nothing. If I'm on my way to another area, but 'accidentally' reveal a new cave or hut or area of some kind, I feel the need to conquer this area presently and completely, so I know for a fact that the area has been completed if it's opened on the map. I'm still not convinced I have completely conquered the whole of Skyrim yet. Especially since I have necessarily restarted a few times over the years after time away for life-reasons.
Best INTJ(m) matches (from research and observations) are INxP and INFJ, also there's an attraction from distance w ExFPs, but it's mostly one-sided for both. ENTP and ESTP are pretty much frenemies. You argue and fight all the time, yet respect them for what they provide you with.
As a INTJ with a ESFJ cousin I have to say that your description is accurate and she is probably the person which I have the worst relationship, specially because I have been forced to spend time with her.
My wife is and Esfj ( I'm the intj). We have a partnership based on "teamtag", where she does what i suck at and i do what she sucks at. It requires alot of communication and trust and can be bumpy sometime but nothing can stop us.
Adding to ENFP 5:26 as an INTJ: I love your energy. Its inspiring and something i do not have. They are Like a small Light in my distopian mind (im not depressed, just sometimes too serious). They are not forceful, toxic or judgemental. Seeing them makes me believe in the good side of Humanity. Save them. They are my hidden relief of Fi with capacity to imagine the things i care about. And they are able(they like) to do the part that i dont prefer.
I am a INTJ and this sounds crazy but I like ESFJs yes it crazy but hear me out the i like them yes they are too social but good friends and guide to be a around yes too social but people who know who to help or who not to help they have great ideas and can be a great social guide for a INTJs I mean I a INTJ and my best friend is a ESFJs sure we don't look eyes to eye at time but when we put our head together we make a great team and I just love her
Weirdly enough, ENTJ's can be less adaptable than INTJ's. Due to ENTJ's more controlling nature, if they loose their control or loose the fuel for their Ni, they can sometimes struggle a lot. While the Ni hero if INTJ's, has a "I can always find a way" mindset
Thats because of their Se tertiary, which just does what it sees at the moment and sometimes/most suggests unreliable methods. But if the Entjs manipulate their environment and mind to efficiently utilize Se function in a way that it always bounces them back to their Ni, they can become very adaptable people. -istp
Being an ENTJ-A, I really don't have the need to have control over others. However people naturally gravitate willing for my leadership and often that control becomes naturally to me because of my ET. People like my presences, and I have no idea why. I also have very "if you want something done right, I'll do it myself," attitude too. Control over others, people tend to come to me, I force nothing anyone wants to do because I can easily due without them, in fact, I'll find plow through anything to find a solution if I have to do myself. If I have a controlling nature, it would be self control and my self discipline. I haven't met an ENTJ yet who would bother with people who are not willing to be part of the team. Especially because we have our notorious "my way or the highway," mindset. We tend to adapt to the situation at that very moment, and we are great under pressure I can tell you as one of our trusty super powers.
Intej here; an awesome video, many of my thoughts were approved. INTP section is a section of Nathan's appreciation)) yes, we love you, Nathan, you're a gold mine indeed. True about INFJ. Like I said, my relations with my friend, although he said he doesn't share all of the infej's qualities. I'm his personal distractor, provoker and ass-kicker, and he's my personal portative conscience. I don't think he wastes his personal skill, rather he wastes his personal time on doing nothing and indecision. My grandma is ESFJ, and our communication is really conflictable, as she's always interested in affairs of someone else and I don't like when someone is too aware of my affairs, it makes me feel as being predictable. Also, my grandma is more inclined to beliefs rather than logical conclusions, so it's often useless to argue with her productively. True about ENTJ, I also have a need to be more offensive and active towards the world, but I'm too cautios for that; and when I meet people like ENTJ, their assertiveness and peremptoryness provoke me for a conflict. Though I, as an INTJ, don't incline to satisfy other people's taste and tact, I appreciate and try my best to abide by common social respect and understanding. So, when I meet an ENTJ, I generate a hardly containable wish to bring down their arrogance. Somehow the same idea about INTJ section - we have already produced an "INTJ army" meme here in comments - two similar in their social difficulties, control orientation and critical mind would hardly make a good partnership. I might have a discreet idea that every (or majority of) INTJ secretly hates oneself to a certain extent; the healthier an INTJ is, the less is their self-hatred. Not even mentioning another INTJ.
I recently went on a date with an INTJ as an INTP and… yes. I was def more “but let’s EXPLORE THE IDEA!” And he was more rigid in his analysis. I actually found him TOO limited, though he could keep up with me. I was excited to meet somebody who had intellectual curiosity but ended up bored. Lol I get along better with my INFP bestie. We come at things from different perspectives but it expands our knowledge and grasp of a situation. Alas, they are already married and I am the wrong gender for them. 😂 Platonic life partners it is.
We would like to be more explorative but we cannot stop being intellectually honest. I like tabletop role playing games for this reason, since I can throw that requirement out the window!
As an INTJ, I knew I was going to get called out when I clicked the video. You nailed this. Especially ESTP - they are ridiculous. What is the point of being a thinking type if they don't think? The ESFP and 'What is it doing?" is also accurate. I can actually remember thinking this when I met one.
This uncanny but not entirely unexpected 😎. Consciously matured ENTJ here. I have also deliberately added INTJs ways to my own. Not always easy buy always worth it. I agree with INTJ here as to how they view the other types by 95% at minimum on one given type. Even to they wording choice used in your descriptions 😎❤️.
My adopted mom is ESFJ and we used to fight about everything. I don’t think any two types could have a more diametrically opposed perspective on life. I could offend her just for wanting to improve some ordinary process that was inefficient, and if she made that apparent my explanation would make her angry or hurt in some way. I get that nobody wants to hear that the way they load the dishwasher is inefficient by their teenage kid, but my thought is, at least let me explain my logic so you can tell me if I’m right or not!
22 y/o INTJ here, Yes. Yes. All of the above. In fact I have a ENTJ sister, and I find her EXACTLY that way. She's an amazing person, but *very* reckless with how many people she trusts and she's super hyper. My brother is am ESFP-T, and I almost laughed at how accurate "Why do I like it?" was. Haha In the long run, I adore how accurate this video was.
This was very interesting. My father is an INTJ and I am an ENFP. We have a lot of overlap but also some difference. We mostly get along very well. My INTP brother, who I get along with very well also, does not have such overlap with our dad. It’s so interesting to see that their huge common-ground turns into treading on each other’s toes more often than not. And whilst they have a good relationship in that they love each other, if it weren’t for my mother and I, I’m not sure they’d ever actually talk much. And not out of animosity. Fascinating.
The comments are fascinating and bum me out that I never had a chance to have a close INTJ friend. I'm an INFJ who mostly had INFP, INTP, and ENFJ people to nerd out with. While they all give it their best shot, my endurance for speculative theory craft out lasts them all. I also like those types for the same reasons INTJs do (ENFJs may bother me less and I just wish the INTPs would let me drag them to the path of happiness I know they can achieve but they talk themselves out of.) The idea of someone I could speculate with on any and everything who would be less bored/triggered sounds amazing. I think I'm drawn to the creative vulnerability that INPs exude and might not have been as quick to approach INTJs thinking I had nothing to offer them specifically as the exude more self-contained contentment.
I'm INTJ and my bf is INFP, yup shit happens (actually we're together for 5 years and i don't wanna this to end) We make each other stronger, dreaming, creativity + planning and rational thinking = success.
Truly agreeable on all accounts. Makes sense and able to most accurately convey with deep research and detailed analysis of each of them. Thank you so much. 😀
My mom and sister are both ESFJ, my bro is ESTJ, my dad is ENFP, and I’m INTJ. It’s 100% the hardest for me to understand my mom’s and sister’s way of thought. My brother and I can understand e/o with the Te, but he struggles with Fi more than I do. My dad is who I understand the most bc we are the only ones who have the N/S imbalanced as opposed to the T/F imbalanced and we have Te/Fi
INTJ here! Here's what think about the 16 personalities: INTJ: You're being over glorified by the community. No one will ever understand your opinions. Deal with it ESTP: I mean, you are very funny to have around but... STOP HARASSING ME, FOR F*CK'S SAKE INFJ: Join the dark side, we have cookies ENTJ: You wish you could order me around ESFP: No, I'm not gonna dance with you! ENFP: I mean, you are very funny to have around but... STOP HARASSING ME, FOR F*CK'S SAKE ISTJ: You're like me, but you're more boring ISTP: I would like to not give a f*ck about the world, just as much as you do ENFJ: I mean, you are very funny to have around but... STOP HARASSING ME, FOR F*CK'S SAKE ENTP: We debate very often, but we'll never reach an end because I'm too attached to my ideals and you're a d*ckhead INTP: You are smart and lazy for no reason ISFJ: Why are do you care so much about people? ESFJ: Stay the f*ck away from me ISFP: I'm still trying to understand your personality. It's been 6 years. INFP: I feel a strange empathy for you, maybe because people constantly misunderstand us ESTJ: I respect your efficiency
Gather vs scatter. If one uses Ni-Se axis they will need to assemble pieces of sensory data while aligning the idea behind it. Finding a connection between A to B to C, a thread that connects seemingly unconnected pieces of information. Ne- Si needs to align sensory information on the inside while offering new connections between them. If we were to visualize this, Ne - Si will take a deck of cards and throw one card on the left side, one on the right side, one behind a chair, under a table,… Switch it up for Ni - Se. Finding the cards in order to form a deck. “Narrow” as a word is often taken literally. 1. Perceiving functions (in itself) don’t have an ‘it is’ or ‘it isn’t’ attitude. Decision making functions do. 2. One can’t narrow from narrow. It has to go from somewhere. And the opposite is true. One cannot expand from expansion. It needs to have a point where it all began.
I'm an INTJ and my wife is an ENFJ. Its an interesting situation. Sometimes, she baffles me, but usually we compliment each other well. I think my best friend when I was a kid was an INFP. We were both daydreamers and often talked about how the world ought to be.
I'm INTJ and my brother is INTP, you've just described a typical conversation between us. My sister (INFP) and I are exactly how you mentioned. Her husband (ENFP) and I are just like you said.
My mom is ISTP and she'd love to hear about it when you do a murder... and also when you get caught, tried, hanged... the whole 6 yards. She's into the gory details that way.
an INFJ here, I like how INTJs somehow always make sure they help me, guide me, protect me..Not sure why they would act this way but I accept it and enjoy it...However, they tend to sorta try to channel me which for me is draining because I have to think of ways to get rid of them then 🙂
I'm an INFJ, my really good friend is an INTJ. Many times I hear myself telling him: I absolutely understand your point of view and I respect opinion... but I will never agree 😈😈😈
Your a good Person Btw (very generic and anylitc and manipulativ negative comment ) Now your confused why i wrote it funfact im even more confused then you are
I let INTJs think they are right. I think they are a little rigid and less open-minded. Winning an argument is never a good idea because you will never win over those who lost the argument.
I am an INTJ with a ESFP child. I spent most of my life wondering what I did wrong in my parenting to have a child who would not understand a thing I was saying and bucked everything that I value. Thankfully we discovered MBTI early on. At least now we understand one another but are both in awe at how totally different we are.
Oh good lord... don't start with the Stewie thing. You'll give me nightmares. Whenever this happens, I just imagine Stewie doing the Pirates of Penzance, which bring everything down to a, you know, human level, and it's all "okay" again. (Sorry about your fish, man) Just try the PofP trick; it works every time.
My husband is INTP and its a bit like he is Q in 007, he has all the gadgets and know-how about physics/tech but I am more a 007 who knows exactly how to make the tech practical and operational/useful in reality or in the moment, however unpredictable and chaotic. I am ruthless and always in neutral gear.
12:48 I have a very close friend as ESFJ and there are definitely times where I can't withstand her (or vice versa). Recently she just took offense to something I did (well I needed my space so I blocked her on a social and got honest about it) and she's like very seriously hurt. I don't understand what went wrong, since I was clear that I need my space and I might resort to this. She did say "it's fine" and what not but I got a feeling she's really really pissed.
Appreciate the Ne/Fe eloquence for ESFJs. There's a particular word my Te prefers that sums them up more efficiently, but of course it's not RUclips appropriate.
don't you think INTJs and ENFJs would be a good with each other since both are looking for someone they can fully trust and both personalities are trustworthy (imo)? I see so little pairings with both personalities
I've always found it interesting how INTJs/INTPs can get along nicely, even though they can sometimes be seen as enemies in certain shows or just all around irl. Bill Gates-INTP/Elon Musk-INTJ Dr.Manhattan-INTP/Ozymandias-INTJ Kisuke Urahara-INTP/Soskue Aizen-INTJ I'm an INTP, and INTJs seem extremely intelligent and hate wasting their time. They also have this particular skill that I've noticed from certain characters from time to time, but they can be Masters of Manipulation and somehow use people as pawns to reach their own goals. I can significantly respect this, as I see this as a battle of wits. INTJs can defeat the powerful mind that an INTP possesses as INTPs can be gullible at times as they don't really care for anything they have little to no interest in, so with that in mind, I believe if they were to stay in the shadows for too long, they could potentially surpass anyone. Funny enough, that would be the only way an INTJ could defeat an INTP, as INTPs can know when something is false or true. INTJs are more tactful, as where INTPs are better at strategizing. Think of it like this, Ozymandias aka "The Smartest Man In The World," had defeated Dr.Manhattan, aka "The Smartest Being In Existence, as he had used Manhattan's powers to energize his weapon, and without Manhattan, his weapon would be deemed useless. Manhattan was gullible, as he believed Ozymandias was a friend, as they were once part of a group fighting for the common good, but this was all a façade to get into the minds of people and for society to see him as a hero. Dr.Manhattan was then forced to live on Mars, as everyone had deemed him an issue, and taking more chances with him would be dangerous. This is one instance where an INTJ defeats an INTP, but then we have Kisuke Urahara defeating Sosuke Aizen. Aizen was at his peak power and had transformed into something that would surpass all hollows and soul reapers; he did this with the idea that if he could become the most powerful being within soul society, he could beat the Soul King himself and then he would rule over everything from Hueco Mundo to Soul Society as well. At this moment, when Aizen had reached his goal, Kiskue would need to devise a solution to defeat Aizen before he grew even more vital. This plan was basically to seal him away and keep him under lock and key; this plan would work, as Kiskue created a seal using three hado-style spells, weakening his power for the seal to work. Kiskue would defeat Aizen, with Aizen recognizing that Kiskue had an incredible intellect and why is it that Kiskue himself doesn't change the world to fit his vision of how the world should be. Kiskue then states that without the Soul King, the soul society would fall apart, ending in chaos and tragedy. People say that if we have INTJs, why do we need INTPs? I've thought about this many times before, and it's come down to one conclusion; INTJs don't see the entirety of the big picture. They see what rewards them the most and what is the quickest way to get things done, which is why I've always seen the "Judging" aspect to have its weakness, then again anything can be a weakness, as "Perceivers" at times are deemed "slow." INTJs don't consider the feelings of others, the amount of damage something can do, or the negatives of some things as, again, they are quick with their choices and know what they are after. As where we INTPs want to learn everything and will consider everything to be "Learning." We INTPs are emotionless as well, but we tend to think that learning human emotion can do something great for us and learning anything new is interesting.
as a young INTJ i have to say your sieries comparsion translates to Real live as peopel tend to have a certin "Staus Thing or activity" to them right from the start .(im Not going into detail as i got confused on half of the names due to me watching the german versions of the animes. 2 point i dont consider the Feelings of others to Look if their ok but to See what they could and can do to me or themselves(but i rarely think about it . Just when i do i dont do it for the Sake of being "nice" i do it for the Sake of knowing what These actions can do when reapeted ) and yeah it makes me feel like i SHOULD feel sorry but ⅕ of the peopel that i "manipulate" did way worse things to me (sometimes) . I read the entire Text thanks for giving me more power ...i mean exchanging Information 😀
"I've always seen the "Judging" aspect to have its weakness" Exactly, INTJs don't consider Everything. Both go much father then other types in search of Truth, while disregarding any Emotions. It's just that INTJs stop earlier when they don't see any Utility. INTPs will go farthest (or entertain any idea) while ignoring Utility and Emotion. - From INTP
I just think INTJs don't put emphasis on the form enough. Fe is related to communication with others. For most thinkers, including INTJs, it seems impossible to make the form of what you say correspond to what you actually mean. They have Fe blind so it's not surprising. But there is different ways to say the same thing. They're just never focused on how the person received the information. Actually you could argue they don't succeed to look authentic anyway because they often say what people think of them isn't their real intentions. That partially explains why what they say isn't received as how they internally see it. There is a disconnection between their mind and their speech because of that. The main problem actually comes from the fact that their real intentions are usually left unknown, so you let people interpret your words, specifically because you don't interpret them yourself. Are you saying those facts to help me, humiliate me ? Even if you say facts, everyone has a mind and intentions when they take a decision. People who use Fe don't get misinterpreted (unless they're going too far from what they actually mean) because they choose their words carefully to still succeed to convey their intentions and emotions. Thinkers don't, (or at least some of them). ENTPs convey intentions very clearly for exemple (even when they're not their actual ones) because they know what words to use to provoke the emotional response they expect. In fact, people with Fe convey their emotions and intentions so well that they can fool others. That doesn't mean people with Fe necessarely fake. You could even say they can appear more authentic because they can communicate intentions and emotions better. That's just a valuable skill, nothing more. So INTJs try to speak with authenticity but people can never get what form this authenticity takes. You can speak with authenticity but what is the point if you can't convey your authenticity ? INTJs can also be considered fake at times if they say they didn't want to be mean but people won't necessarely believe them. *All the words you choose matter.* I hope it will be helpful for thinkers to develop their skills in communication and will encourage them to show their emotions more. A fellow Ni dominant, INFJ.
First time doing this
ESTPs - 0:03
INFJs - 1:13
ENTJs - 1:58
INTJs - 3:08
ESFPs - 4:13
ENFPs (me!) - 5:26
ISTJs - 7:32
ISTPs - 8:19
ENFJs - 9:09
ENTPs - 10:15
INTPs - 10:55
ISFJs - 11:46
ESFJs - 12:48
ISFPs - 13:34
INFPs - 14:50
ESTJs - 15:50
I'm baffled. How can an ENFP suddenly make my life easier
As an INTJ, I absolutely adore ENFPs! My grandma is an ENFP too. She is so cute! The most light-hearted, bubbly, kind people - ENFPs
@@NZC_Meow tbh, my crush is ENFP, she's cute.
Thank you!
@@ranaky9416 sure, but wait till your crush starts talking to you, everyday, about nothing and everything. It'll drive you insane. I'm speaking from experience regrettably.
Middle aged INTP here. I've rarely had any sort of conflict with an INTJ. They've typically been very kind to me, which has usually left me just a little bit baffled and confused, but very grateful to them for treating me like a human being.
I've shared the story many times before, but one of my fondest memories from my younger years is when I had both an INTJ (now deceased, RIP) and ENTP in my little social circle, and I got the opportunity to watch them debate anything and everything the ENTP could think up with which to poke at the INTJ. No one got upset or had their feelings hurt. It was mental sparring and it was great. The SJs and others in the group would get worried and unhappy with their "arguing," but that was because they didn't understand the NT mind.
I was thinking it takes a lot to upset us , and yes, we love the true nerds something awful. For myself, I can only take so much debate, but I never flame, I’ll just drop out until the time is right to pick up again or move on. I’ve never even unfriended someone because of an argument, just for rudeness
I've always been curious how the other types (non-INTJs) see my verbal sparring with someone else. To me, a debate is a wonderful time. I relish few things more in life than an honest, straightforward debate. However, I've had others confront me that it was being "too harsh" when debating others. At first, I thought this was nonsense. However, when more and more people kept mentioning it, I started asking whoever I had debated if they thought I was being harsh. The answer was almost always, "No! Why would you think that?" Quite curious that the two people debating didn't think anyone was being harsh or overly critical, but people who witnessed it had.
@@SlimThrull I (INTP) find it entertaining and sometimes educational... which is the same thing, more often than not.
Most other types seem to be interested in social harmony (which I'm all for, but social avoidance is more my speed) and/or what they "feel is true" (oy vey, that one hurts) over ACTUAL truth. While we may have biases on certain topics (grilled cheese sandwiches are to be cut DIAGONALLY, you BARBARIANS!), we NTs understand there's a gap (frequently a chasm) between feelings and truth.
Social niceties like tone of voice and body language take a back seat. We may stare hard at someone with a scowl of concentration. Fe-types get the impression we're angry, but we're just contemplating the implications of what's being discussed. Fi-types can't let go of their biases and assume we must be passionate about our side of the argument. We're just trying to make use of the opportunity to more fully understand the concepts being thrown around and gain a clearer insight into how reality functions... because that's what we do.
Some non-NTs can do it well enough, particularly if they've spent enough time with NTs, but it's foreign to them... like asking a typical INTP to dance.
This scenario sounds like bliss
@@CheriFields Your last sentence is so true. I can debate for hours as long as there is no underlying threat or belittling of another's ideas. I debated with an INTP once and as soon as he had an underlying threat in his tone, I shut it down and walked away.
I'm glad you pointed out that we're idealists deep down. Our problem is believing in how things "should be" while also being so pessimistic about people.
There's a term that I think fits well: cynical idealism. It's a conflict between how we wish things were and how reality actually works.
Not should be. But could be... things or people and the world could be so much better. But it's not.
Fi users all "should be" issues.
@@Peter-uo9km every fi user I know seems to use "should be" a lot.
INTJ here, my boyfriend is ISTP and we still haven't mourdered anyone, but we completed many projects and ideas together. I usually do the plan, and he does the action-reaction when something interrupt our plan.
Simple example of what happend one summer: I plan the whole day for us. Everything was going well, we still had one thing to do before we go to the restaurant, but we overheard a schooltrip [aka many hungry kids and teachers] was heading to the restaurant that moment, so my boyfriend said, that we needed to f**k the plan for a moment, run as fast as we could to that restaurant to order food before the kiddo-army take the place. We did as he suggested, decided to eat our ordered food outside of the restaurant, and while eating I could peacefully make ajustements to my plan. The rest of the day went fine. It's a rether simple story, but it shows well how we cooperate.
So as much as I don't know anything about James Bond I think you've describe it decently.
What bout the rommel part?
May I know how you get together
@@Lonewolf_77To be fair, Hitler definitely was not an INTJ.
That's Ti for you
@@NiTeLightYears We met at school and we both played Heroes of Might and Magic 3
This list might differ for male and female INTJs and also age / maturity. As a female INTJ in my early 30s, I’d say that INFJs are the type who are the same as us (instead of ENTJs), except they are nicer. People who don’t know me well enough might confuse me for an INFJ since I can play the social game when I have to. I don’t see INFJs as wasting their skill. I actually admire their ability to use their intuition and apply it towards people rather than ideas. It comes in handy a lot in life, as evidenced by the fact that they can even get me to adore and respect them which is a tough thing to do!! And as you get older, you also develop an appreciation for people who can navigate the “science of people” more and more. Also, my experience with INFJs has been that we always come to the same conclusions but we come to those conclusions in different ways. ENTJs are also similar to INTJs but INFJs have way more similarities with us in my opinion.
I want to add to this that different types bring out different sides to each person. When I am with an INFJ, I feel like I am home. Like I am understood 100%. And my softness and affection comes out more because I am around someone who won’t judge me and take the time to try to understand me and give me the benefit of the doubt. When I am around ENTJs, my hardness comes out (but not in a bad way). We’re like a power couple, very dynamic and every conversation ends in world domination. I also can be myself around ENTJs but the side of myself that comes out most often around them is the side that I don’t necessary like all the time. So ENTJs can appeal to my ambitious side which is a part of me but a larger part of me is my desire to understand and theorize about the world and the only type that can get me to enter that zone fully and immerse myself in it is the INFJ, because that is also their primary mode of living.
I love the INTJs in my life and also admire some of the fictional characters. I wish I had their honesty and their deep hearts. INTJs are very caring, but they curate and prioritize who and what they care about and don't waste their affection by sending it in what are probably fruitless directions. Their approach to relationships makes so much sense to me and I love that confidence and shameless self focus that they embody so well.
@@life_lab_chronicles Spot on!
@@signalfire15 I think I get what you’re saying, especially since my INFJ dad has always been one of my favorite people in the world. But he spends most of his time helping people (psychiatrist) while I’m only willing to follow in a similar path to become a counselor in my late forties. The temptation is not to think that people are worthless but that they take up so much energy I could be spending making a real difference.
100% agree with everything you said here. My older sibling is an ENTJ, and while we're quite similar in many ways, our interactions are much more "cut throat" and almost always revolve around achieving/conquering and discussing practical real world strategies related to that. Which can be great, but despite the fact that I'm probably even more ambitious and cut throat than he is, it eventually starts to feel overbearing, and deep down it always feels that I can't quite "be myself" for lack of a better word. If I truly let out the things I most want to discuss ("theorizing about the world" as you said) the ENTJ won't be interested and will mostly just see it as unnecessary mental masturbation. Or anything that involves personal vulnerabilities, weaknesses etc. they'll be very uncomfortable with. As a result it always feels like I'm hiding the deepest aspects of myself, whereas with INFJ that can all come out and is openly received and understood. It's like being at home with another version of myself, but a softer one, which is nice. Our differences can cause us to clash at times (INTJ desire for cold hard truth at all costs versus INFJ wanting to appeal to people's sensitivities - this can be frustrating for both types), but that difference can also provide a nice counterbalance if both individuals are mature.
One thing I can say is INTJ is good companion for INFJ, like me and my cousin. INFJs can have issues with actualizing their ideas and while trying to be organized, it's not as clean.
INTJs can understand where you want to go and can push you in that path without sugar coating (more efficient).
Beneficial symbiosis, gives the edge to INFJs desire for perfection that it wants to share with others including fellow INTJ.
One example of that interaction is the Oracle and Architect from Matrix trilogy. One is designing the system, other is probing the system, searching for issues within in search of perfection of the Matrix.
I love you,
Tell more, on the INFJ?
Yep, same for me (INTJ) and my friend (INFJ), who's a hikka and I always struggle to push him out of his chamber, while he often tries to soften me and make me be nicer or more considerate towards the world.
Perfectly said, my best friend is an INFJ and we’ve debated everything. Called eachother every name in the book the whole 9 but when I need another perspective I go to him
I hate the architect lol, he had no tact and knew nothing about human nature...i really liked the oracle...
I'm an INTJ married to an INFJ. We weren't familiar with the Myers-Briggs model when we began dating, but we recognised and were attracted to each other's intuitive lens.
I've found INFJs make excellent companions for INTJs. INFJs are the best (bias acknowledged).
We have a fourteen-year-old INTP son. Our household discussions terrify, irritate or intrigue most people. We dial it down when we venture out.
I'm INTJ and my best friend is ESFP, I don't see a lot of content about the 2 of us but what you said is so accurate it's hilarious. The fact that my weakness is her strength and vice versa makes us the perfect duo. We learn a lot from each other and I always have fun, I really believe that as an INTJ, I developed my weakest functions thanks to seeing and experimenting her way of living.
I'm INTJ and my wife is ESFP. We are in the middle of a divorce. Thing is we are just too different and can never complete each other. She find me heartless and boring while I find her dumb and impulsive. In the end of the day she can't appreciate my intelligent and I can't provide her with the emotional needs she desire.
@@seriouslysarah1665 I believe in that case it’s not a question of personality type but maturity of the person
It’s the same with any personality in the end, I believe you can get along with anyone when they are mature enough to recognise our differences and accept them, not trying to change is
The reason it works so well with my friend is that she never expects me to do things I hate and vice versa. I met other esfps and it was not the case
Fi-Te relationship in values and morals.
can i just say, as an infp, i think all your intj comments are absolutely adorable. i know they are not supposed to be. but for some reason, it just tickles me to see how even your comments abstain from getting personal and read like a professor grading a student presentation...about yourself 🤣
also, about 15:45, the feeling is reciprocated :)
INTJ: The metaness of this makes me so happy. Your capitalization is killing me though lol.
@elvenjedi6883 RIP 😉 I could change it, I suppose, but I kinda like it more now lol
As an INTJ I always admire your efficiency, practicality, straight to the point, by always giving the important and useful information, in a simpler way.
Great video !
I have typed my dad as an INTJ. He has once said to me that he finds more interest in things than people. As an INFJ, I almost envy his ability to focus on and be more passionate about more 'practical' matters like engineering. I too have an interest in science and learning how the world works and use opportunities surrounding these topics to bond with him. While I have learned to embrace my interest in people and psychology, it would be nice to be able to disconnect from the emotional side of my brain more often which can be so tightly linked to my relations with other people like he can.
The world needs more people helpers, it’ll be a good life at the end. In fact, I’m hopping over to help you guys as a mature INTJ.
You might take up a practical hobby like my INFJ dad does and build things. Of course, if you do it all your own unique way, people might think the results are eccentric, but who cares if it works 😂
I am an INTJ with a deep interest in people and psychology (not so much engineering or science, although I do spend a lot of time on those subjects too), and I'm sure many here who are into mbti are the same.
The main difference that is interesting here is in the approach and the process of arrival toward the motivation to pursue whatever it is that is interesting to each, rather than the contents of what you find interesting (although of course, there is no doubt correlation in that regard as well).
Don't even waste your time trying to be less emotional or compassionate..it's your nature...there's nothing wrong or more important than being a compassionate human being...
@mckamy4711 I get furious when people don't care about things ,ones I even said to my brother that " you can't take care of non-living objects how will you take care of alive people "
We are always semi-connected to our emotions. We FEEL them very very deeply but they do not really guide what we do, which often makes life even more painful. Nietzsche talked about this as a kind of "cruelty" to ourselves in the name of "honesty" and "intellectual conscience." When this cruelty runs out of control we can be very cruel to others even though it is not what we want in our hearts.
For context I'm an INTJ. What you were saying in the INFP section is surprisingly accurate at least for me. I don't know many other INTJs but I went through a phase where I had multiple imaginary worlds. I could just sit down and completely zone out for a good hour.
I can't stand INFPs. Horrible little creatures.
Agreed about the multiple worlds thing. I have so many I had start writing it down in google docs to get them out of my head. Now I have 500+ google docs😂
@@Mire-Drive woah same thing about the google docs, each of them I've written is at least 20 pages long, lmao
as an infp, I have a world for my future, a world for each of my media obsessions, a world for mbti, previous story idea worlds, and my current one which I finally decided to turn into a book-
I have two sisters. One is an INTJ, and the other is an ESFJ. Disagreements and misunderstandings abound between them, but they do understand that they each have good intentions, so the relationship is good by their own force of will. General interactions between them are interesting, to say the least, as they have no common ground other than their shared history. I am often the mediator, though I tend to struggle with the ESFJ *almost* as much.
- an ISTJ
I can relate to this! As an INTJ/ISTJ (now turned INFJ) with my ISFP sister
As an INTJ,:
1) I absolutely adore ENFPs! My grandma is an ENFP too. She is so cute! The most light-hearted, bubbly, kind people - ENFPs
2) While I relate a lot with INTPs. It seems they do everything in the wrong way (in my perspective) but still they are right beside me. They're like my biggest competitors but closest people. They seem to be a bit less advanced (not in a negative way, just less weird) than us
3) INFJs are also pretty relatable. They seem to be a more advanced (also not in a negative way) version of us. Essentially, they are more socially compatible, but they're a bit less "thoughtful/intellectual" than INTJs. Basically the better version. But I think sacrificing the first part for the second part is better. I mean INFJs are more "socially accepted".
4) ISTJs are the most loyal people. They always follow the textbook like us, but unlike us, they don't improvise to make it more efficient.
I'm surrounded by these personality types so I've no idea about others. [My English is not good]
INFJs are way more socially capable, but if you look inside their heads, you may find things way more disturbing...
INTJs on average are disappointed idealists turned cynics who seek trust and understanding.
Not arguing for who is worse or better, I just think INFJs can be both the best and the worst people you know(and it can even be just 1 person being both...)
Love No 1. Thaaaaaaanx
Omg your point about intps is so accurate about me and my friend. My intp friend often gives me a run for my money when it comes to being knowledgeable and curious...and I love her for it.
I somewhat get what you're saying, but what do you mean exactly with your usage of the word "advanced"? Maybe there's a synonymous word that works better here, like intangible or abstract?
"While I relate a lot with INTPs. It seems they do everything in the wrong way..."
Yeah, as an INTP, that jives with my experience. INTJs have set procedures, optimized over time and experience, for just about everything. INTPs haven't even considered most of the things on which INTJs have already come to conclusions. We get caught up in all the "what if?" scenarios in our heads and lack practical application... but we can also follow sound, logical reasoning and we're not argumentative (despite what some think). INTJs deal with "real world" scenarios better than us most of the time, while we have our heads in the clouds. At the same time, INTJs seem strangely patient with us, never taking offense and being willing to discuss any topic, which is just about all we ever want from others.
INTJ’s don’t hate INFP’s? I didn’t see that coming…nice!!! I’m an INFP and I generally find INTJ’s really attractive! ❤
Why would you think so? From my observations, INxJs and INFPs are one of the most common and successful matches.
I'm an INFP (as far as I know) and I've been close friends with an INTJ for a long time :)
INFPs already hate INFPs enough, we can save your share for EJs 😂
Of course we don't hate INFPs lol. Did you just think that because we have rbf?
Same.. as an infp I have a really hopeless crush on intj even though I think he hates me idk not really sure
*INTJ* here ☆ who finds myself around ENTJs at work & I admire their more *"carefree"* nature. Friends tend to be xNFx types which is different but appreciated. As I learn more about the world, starting to further appreciate *action-orientedness.*
Entjs are dumb domesticated versions of intjs...
INTJ dilemma: it would be nice to have a group in which I really belong but simultaneously, I need my space and when would I have time to fit others in to do fun stuff together when I'm already busy with my own plans and schemes. It's all about being your own best nemesis in some respects, lol.
LMAO, tho, my BFF since we were 14 (1975!) is an ESFP! A day with her is like a week with others...so it can totally fill me up for good stretches of solitude.
Excellent. You are one of the few people with insights on typology right now which are not just regurgitations of existing material.
ENTJ with an INTJ mom and the impulsive is probably real 😂. She does struggle sometimes to adapt but when we are together she leans on me to do it which works out great. I also have many INTP friends and I think the INTP description was spot on haha! I really love INTJs and INTPs 🫶
How on earth did you make friends with an INTP and how did you even manage to find them irl? What kind of environment? I don't get how people break the ice so easily, and I don't get how they have such social skills.
Indeed, I've touched grass, but
INTJ here.
My closest friends are INTP and ISTP, and all about those two types in this video is true.
Most of the time, in the group, the INTP thinks about many things then comes to conclusion, the ISTP thinks about how to use this conclusion and me, after listening to them for while, take their conclusion, find all the problems about it, and then, find another conclusion.
The fun fact about this is that it can be infinite.
I can tell you that when we are together, it would be better for someone to not enter the conversation by saying something stupid or not justified, you'd be seen as stupid or not interesting for the rest of your life.
Yall thinkers are evil...lol
@@afrosamourai400 Indeed. I also had been with the others analysts at the same time (the "same time" is important lol), I let you imagine how it went (ego battle of knowledge)
Your analogy of Ni vs. Ne was great. I am an INFP and I never master something before moving on, but I always go back to things that were very valuable to me, and I carry with me the first exploration, plus integration of all other experiences I’ve had in the meantime.
Sounds about right to me.
Particularly true regarding ESFPs (I used to work with some ESFPs who were totally the opposite of me but who I nevertheless respected and found interesting, and I know they were fascinated by me too.)
Also true with ISFP, as one of my closest friends is an ISFP who absolutely does bring out my artistic and emotional side in a way no one else can.
As an INTJ, I loved having an ENTJ as a boss. She was the leader, while I did all the behind the scenes stuff. We worked wonderfully together.
Couldn't have said any of this better myself, you sure know exactly what we INTJs see in others! I do have an ISTP friend who I play competitive multiplayer video games with, which, as you may suppose, do involve murder in a sense.😅His ability to solve practical problems quickly and accurately is admirable, especially when the action in the games we play is so fast.
Istp are angry little puckers like a honey badger.
the brilliance of intps always strikes me anew and unexpectedly. I don't notice it in myself, an intp, but when I see this in the wild, it's breathtaking. I love your channel
I think INTJs are a type that's prone to in-experience with other types, with the exception of brief interactions in a professional setting - which doesn't give us much time for opinions unfortunately - and we tend to want to/be comfortable with keeping to ourselves; a desire which different personalities are going to bounce off of differently. A mature INTJ will greet most neutral intrusions with a smile and an open mind ~ (even if the smile is solely internal!)
Thanks for this summary, Nathan. There's a reason that INTJs are dubbed as "The Mastermind", since they're usually one step ahead of everyone else, and extremely astute.
Like a carpenter who builds stairs.
@@ourcozycorner8517 and Entps walk through it effortlessly
Lol
@@adonai6256 true))
Anyone get this nickname and didn’t understand why either?
Sounds about right about how I think INTJs tend to see me (INTP), normally I get the impression that they overestimate me which is usually not the case with other personality types. I'm well-read on topics that concern my job or that I'm obsessed with for other reasons, well RUclips-video'd on topics that amuse me (e.g. MBTI typing), and well Wikipedia'd on topics that intrigue me or that I'm completely ignorant of, but I'm not curious enough about (yet) to want to explore in much depth.
You certainly don't want to learn about the hidden agendas...
INFJ here & I relate strongly to INTJs. For me- context is everything. I understand how the 'social chameleon-ness' could be perceived of as disingenuous, however- it's efficiency and outcome that direct my social interaction & reaction. Its not inauthentic, rather- it's more the volume on certain things gets turned up and other things down- tweaked for best outcome. Idk if other INFJs feel this way- but I wanted to try & explain that particular phenomena
Very spot on. And with my Si experience with all the INTJs I have in my life and love dearly, I see this kind of communication and to us it leads to mutual understanding and respect, even if we function so differently.
(ISFJ)
I’m an INTJ (f) and my boyfriend is an ISTJ. We will usually either think the exact same way or come up with ideas/reasonings that the other could never think of (which drives me a little insane). I saw somewhere that INTJs and ISTJs might find it hard to think of things to talk about and I find that’s true for us as well.
When doing things together with my INTJ friend, we have lots of same thoughts and we have the same style of ordering other people aswell. But once we have nothing to do, it really is hard for us to start a convo, it already is hard just by being both introverted and judging, but our ni and si is so contradicting while still having similarities
I am the opposite: I'm an ISTJ and my husband is INTJ. We get along good...but he's a talkative INTJ and I am super quiet. It can be difficult at times to balance our different personality quirks
..but we manage.
Just talk about intellectual things, both types enjoy it. I really struggle when having smalltalks but I can take dominance of the conversation when it has some "goal" or purpose.
Istj is the only sj that intj can get along with. And even then they're kinda boring.
The ENFP portion got me thinking. I'm curious whether you could do a video on how each of the 16 types plays Skyrim.. As an INTJ, I have been playing Skyrim since it came out 10 years ago. I always take my time in every area, being sure to thoroughly scour every corner for loot, enemies and everything, so as to miss nothing. If I'm on my way to another area, but 'accidentally' reveal a new cave or hut or area of some kind, I feel the need to conquer this area presently and completely, so I know for a fact that the area has been completed if it's opened on the map.
I'm still not convinced I have completely conquered the whole of Skyrim yet. Especially since I have necessarily restarted a few times over the years after time away for life-reasons.
"You challenge me in refreshing and worthwhile ways" is literally what I said to my ENTP ex-girlfriend when she asked why do I like her
HELP directly asking "why do you like me" is such an entp thing to do 😂🙈💦 most ppl tend to think we're annoying after all.
@@fruitspunchsamurai1763 True. Besides we're not scared to ask questions at all
I've never been described as "Well RUclips-videoed", but I'm fine with that.
--- INTP
Best INTJ(m) matches (from research and observations)
are INxP and INFJ, also there's an attraction from distance w ExFPs, but it's mostly one-sided for both.
ENTP and ESTP are pretty much frenemies. You argue and fight all the time, yet respect them for what they provide you with.
As a INTJ with a ESFJ cousin I have to say that your description is accurate and she is probably the person which I have the worst relationship, specially because I have been forced to spend time with her.
My wife is and Esfj ( I'm the intj). We have a partnership based on "teamtag", where she does what i suck at and i do what she sucks at. It requires alot of communication and trust and can be bumpy sometime but nothing can stop us.
i'm with my girlfriend from years, she's an ESFP... and the quote "why do i like it" is the best one i have ever heard lol
As an INTJ, it's funny how accurate this is.
Dammit Nathan, you nailed it again! -intj
Adding to ENFP 5:26 as an INTJ:
I love your energy. Its inspiring and something i do not have.
They are Like a small Light in my distopian mind (im not depressed, just sometimes too serious). They are not forceful, toxic or judgemental. Seeing them makes me believe in the good side of Humanity.
Save them. They are my hidden relief of Fi with capacity to imagine the things i care about. And they are able(they like) to do the part that i dont prefer.
Lol you don't understand enfp
@@5P4C3V01D Trump is entj
@@YouilAushana I dont care. It doesnt matter.
I am a INTJ and this sounds crazy but I like ESFJs yes it crazy but hear me out the i like them yes they are too social but good friends and guide to be a around yes too social but people who know who to help or who not to help they have great ideas and can be a great social guide for a INTJs I mean I a INTJ and my best friend is a ESFJs sure we don't look eyes to eye at time but when we put our head together we make a great team and I just love her
Weirdly enough, ENTJ's can be less adaptable than INTJ's. Due to ENTJ's more controlling nature, if they loose their control or loose the fuel for their Ni, they can sometimes struggle a lot. While the Ni hero if INTJ's, has a "I can always find a way" mindset
Thats because of their Se tertiary, which just does what it sees at the moment and sometimes/most suggests unreliable methods. But if the Entjs manipulate their environment and mind to efficiently utilize Se function in a way that it always bounces them back to their Ni, they can become very adaptable people. -istp
Being an ENTJ-A, I really don't have the need to have control over others. However people naturally gravitate willing for my leadership and often that control becomes naturally to me because of my ET. People like my presences, and I have no idea why. I also have very "if you want something done right, I'll do it myself," attitude too. Control over others, people tend to come to me, I force nothing anyone wants to do because I can easily due without them, in fact, I'll find plow through anything to find a solution if I have to do myself. If I have a controlling nature, it would be self control and my self discipline. I haven't met an ENTJ yet who would bother with people who are not willing to be part of the team. Especially because we have our notorious "my way or the highway," mindset. We tend to adapt to the situation at that very moment, and we are great under pressure I can tell you as one of our trusty super powers.
My sister is an INTJ, and my dad is an ENTJ, and I agree with you 100%.
@@edward1857 dont use the 16 personalities test to type urself is all i'll say
@@bradeye1133 Would you explain to me to why? Be descriptive, and non vague. Because I heavily disagree what you are saying.
Intej here; an awesome video, many of my thoughts were approved.
INTP section is a section of Nathan's appreciation)) yes, we love you, Nathan, you're a gold mine indeed.
True about INFJ. Like I said, my relations with my friend, although he said he doesn't share all of the infej's qualities. I'm his personal distractor, provoker and ass-kicker, and he's my personal portative conscience. I don't think he wastes his personal skill, rather he wastes his personal time on doing nothing and indecision.
My grandma is ESFJ, and our communication is really conflictable, as she's always interested in affairs of someone else and I don't like when someone is too aware of my affairs, it makes me feel as being predictable. Also, my grandma is more inclined to beliefs rather than logical conclusions, so it's often useless to argue with her productively.
True about ENTJ, I also have a need to be more offensive and active towards the world, but I'm too cautios for that; and when I meet people like ENTJ, their assertiveness and peremptoryness provoke me for a conflict. Though I, as an INTJ, don't incline to satisfy other people's taste and tact, I appreciate and try my best to abide by common social respect and understanding. So, when I meet an ENTJ, I generate a hardly containable wish to bring down their arrogance.
Somehow the same idea about INTJ section - we have already produced an "INTJ army" meme here in comments - two similar in their social difficulties, control orientation and critical mind would hardly make a good partnership. I might have a discreet idea that every (or majority of) INTJ secretly hates oneself to a certain extent; the healthier an INTJ is, the less is their self-hatred. Not even mentioning another INTJ.
"INTJs see me more... if they are subscribed" smooth
I recently went on a date with an INTJ as an INTP and… yes. I was def more “but let’s EXPLORE THE IDEA!” And he was more rigid in his analysis.
I actually found him TOO limited, though he could keep up with me.
I was excited to meet somebody who had intellectual curiosity but ended up bored. Lol
I get along better with my INFP bestie. We come at things from different perspectives but it expands our knowledge and grasp of a situation.
Alas, they are already married and I am the wrong gender for them. 😂 Platonic life partners it is.
We would like to be more explorative but we cannot stop being intellectually honest. I like tabletop role playing games for this reason, since I can throw that requirement out the window!
Thank you for explaining this Nathan. 💗 I may send this to a friend whose often been confused on my perspective ofthe little Hoomans. 🤭
Ne/Se Doms are the people I love to spent time with. They make me a better person and I secretly like them annoying me. -INTJ.
Nathan, you're a genius 👌👏 can't describe how amazing you are at explaining the types from every possible perspective 🤩
I absolutely love this series of videos please continue them for the rest of the 16 personalities
As an INTJ, I knew I was going to get called out when I clicked the video. You nailed this. Especially ESTP - they are ridiculous. What is the point of being a thinking type if they don't think? The ESFP and 'What is it doing?" is also accurate. I can actually remember thinking this when I met one.
I still find estps so funny as an intj😂 they were the most friendly to me when getting to know how cool I can be 😎
The intj and esfp combo is so true my friend is an intj and their boyfriend is an esfp and they are great together. Super healthy relationship
This uncanny but not entirely unexpected 😎. Consciously matured ENTJ here. I have also deliberately added INTJs ways to my own. Not always easy buy always worth it. I agree with INTJ here as to how they view the other types by 95% at minimum on one given type. Even to they wording choice used in your descriptions 😎❤️.
My adopted mom is ESFJ and we used to fight about everything. I don’t think any two types could have a more diametrically opposed perspective on life. I could offend her just for wanting to improve some ordinary process that was inefficient, and if she made that apparent my explanation would make her angry or hurt in some way.
I get that nobody wants to hear that the way they load the dishwasher is inefficient by their teenage kid, but my thought is, at least let me explain my logic so you can tell me if I’m right or not!
"INTJs see INFJs as people wasting all their abilities on those pesky humans." - Nathan, INTJ elucidating human psychology to other pesky humans.
He's intp not intj
I'm an INTJ and my bf is INFJ. I've thought about this exact thing.
great video! pleeease do ISTJ next
I’m pretty sure I woke my ISFP husband up giggling at these descriptions. How did you know I would think that way about so many different people?
" INTPs are well youtube videod"- N.G ..... Get Out Of My Headdd!!!!
Yeah, buddy, I took that s__t too. What's the deal?
Summing my my entire experience with the mbti community for the last 7 years or so here.
22 y/o INTJ here,
Yes. Yes. All of the above.
In fact I have a ENTJ sister, and I find her EXACTLY that way. She's an amazing person, but *very* reckless with how many people she trusts and she's super hyper.
My brother is am ESFP-T, and I almost laughed at how accurate "Why do I like it?" was. Haha
In the long run, I adore how accurate this video was.
They say ENTPs are chaotic 😂
I find peace of mind when ENTPs around.
This was very interesting. My father is an INTJ and I am an ENFP. We have a lot of overlap but also some difference. We mostly get along very well. My INTP brother, who I get along with very well also, does not have such overlap with our dad. It’s so interesting to see that their huge common-ground turns into treading on each other’s toes more often than not. And whilst they have a good relationship in that they love each other, if it weren’t for my mother and I, I’m not sure they’d ever actually talk much. And not out of animosity. Fascinating.
The comments are fascinating and bum me out that I never had a chance to have a close INTJ friend. I'm an INFJ who mostly had INFP, INTP, and ENFJ people to nerd out with. While they all give it their best shot, my endurance for speculative theory craft out lasts them all. I also like those types for the same reasons INTJs do (ENFJs may bother me less and I just wish the INTPs would let me drag them to the path of happiness I know they can achieve but they talk themselves out of.)
The idea of someone I could speculate with on any and everything who would be less bored/triggered sounds amazing. I think I'm drawn to the creative vulnerability that INPs exude and might not have been as quick to approach INTJs thinking I had nothing to offer them specifically as the exude more self-contained contentment.
I'm INTJ and my bf is INFP, yup shit happens (actually we're together for 5 years and i don't wanna this to end) We make each other stronger, dreaming, creativity + planning and rational thinking = success.
I love it whenever you talk about INTJs and INFPs ^^
Man you’re a treasure with your practical insights clearly, simply and creatively expressed. Good job! 👍👏👏👏😁
I like INFJ's. They are like INTJ's but have those warm fuzzies that INTJ's lack.
Truly agreeable on all accounts. Makes sense and able to most accurately convey with deep research and detailed analysis of each of them. Thank you so much. 😀
My mom and sister are both ESFJ, my bro is ESTJ, my dad is ENFP, and I’m INTJ. It’s 100% the hardest for me to understand my mom’s and sister’s way of thought. My brother and I can understand e/o with the Te, but he struggles with Fi more than I do. My dad is who I understand the most bc we are the only ones who have the N/S imbalanced as opposed to the T/F imbalanced and we have Te/Fi
I bet dad is large and in charge.
INTJ here! Here's what think about the 16 personalities:
INTJ: You're being over glorified by the community. No one will ever understand your opinions. Deal with it
ESTP: I mean, you are very funny to have around but... STOP HARASSING ME, FOR F*CK'S SAKE
INFJ: Join the dark side, we have cookies
ENTJ: You wish you could order me around
ESFP: No, I'm not gonna dance with you!
ENFP: I mean, you are very funny to have around but... STOP HARASSING ME, FOR F*CK'S SAKE
ISTJ: You're like me, but you're more boring
ISTP: I would like to not give a f*ck about the world, just as much as you do
ENFJ: I mean, you are very funny to have around but... STOP HARASSING ME, FOR F*CK'S SAKE
ENTP: We debate very often, but we'll never reach an end because I'm too attached to my ideals and you're a d*ckhead
INTP: You are smart and lazy for no reason
ISFJ: Why are do you care so much about people?
ESFJ: Stay the f*ck away from me
ISFP: I'm still trying to understand your personality. It's been 6 years.
INFP: I feel a strange empathy for you, maybe because people constantly misunderstand us
ESTJ: I respect your efficiency
As an INFJ, I really really resonate with your enticement. Only for the cookies though.
Gather vs scatter. If one uses Ni-Se axis they will need to assemble pieces of sensory data while aligning the idea behind it. Finding a connection between A to B to C, a thread that connects seemingly unconnected pieces of information. Ne- Si needs to align sensory information on the inside while offering new connections between them. If we were to visualize this, Ne - Si will take a deck of cards and throw one card on the left side, one on the right side, one behind a chair, under a table,… Switch it up for Ni - Se. Finding the cards in order to form a deck. “Narrow” as a word is often taken literally. 1. Perceiving functions (in itself) don’t have an ‘it is’ or ‘it isn’t’ attitude. Decision making functions do. 2. One can’t narrow from narrow. It has to go from somewhere. And the opposite is true. One cannot expand from expansion. It needs to have a point where it all began.
ESTPs and INTJs can look remarkably similar at first glance, an idea which would probably annoy both of them.
Fantastic video in terms of accuracy.. estjs.. you nailed how I see them operate
Here me out. 16 personalities as backhanded complements
I'm an INTJ and my wife is an ENFJ. Its an interesting situation. Sometimes, she baffles me, but usually we compliment each other well.
I think my best friend when I was a kid was an INFP. We were both daydreamers and often talked about how the world ought to be.
I'm INTJ and my brother is INTP, you've just described a typical conversation between us. My sister (INFP) and I are exactly how you mentioned. Her husband (ENFP) and I are just like you said.
INTP here. My best writing partner in the world was INTJ. We amplified each other.
INTJ here, my dad is ISTP but we haven't done murder yet. Kinda makes me doubt his type
My mom is ISTP and she'd love to hear about it when you do a murder... and also when you get caught, tried, hanged... the whole 6 yards. She's into the gory details that way.
You two just think you are better than others..... _You're not._
😂
an INFJ here, I like how INTJs somehow always make sure they help me, guide me, protect me..Not sure why they would act this way but I accept it and enjoy it...However, they tend to sorta try to channel me which for me is draining because I have to think of ways to get rid of them then 🙂
They just using and manipulating you
i did not expect any sort of positive view of infp from the intj that was quite nice
I'm an INFJ, my really good friend is an INTJ. Many times I hear myself telling him: I absolutely understand your point of view and I respect opinion... but I will never agree 😈😈😈
Your a good Person
Btw (very generic and anylitc and manipulativ negative comment )
Now your confused why i wrote it funfact im even more confused then you are
I let INTJs think they are right. I think they are a little rigid and less open-minded. Winning an argument is never a good idea because you will never win over those who lost the argument.
I am an INTJ with a ESFP child. I spent most of my life wondering what I did wrong in my parenting to have a child who would not understand a thing I was saying and bucked everything that I value. Thankfully we discovered MBTI early on. At least now we understand one another but are both in awe at how totally different we are.
Low-key seeing if you were right when comparing it to how I see some of my friends
I’m an INTJ with an ESFJ girlfriend. We genuinely work well.
10:55 INTJ-A with a INTP partner here. Pretty accurate.
Sounds like two robots
notice how entp part is the most played
this shows how deranged us are
- a fellow entp
Great video would be interesting to see a deep dive into intj / esfj relationships.
I have to type this because whyyyy am I imagining Stewie talking about this. The voice but at least i learned heehee
Oh good lord... don't start with the Stewie thing. You'll give me nightmares. Whenever this happens, I just imagine Stewie doing the Pirates of Penzance, which bring everything down to a, you know, human level, and it's all "okay" again. (Sorry about your fish, man) Just try the PofP trick; it works every time.
Wow you seemed to get it right for ISTJ, INTP, ENTJ, ENFJ, ISFJ, INFJ, INFP, INTJ, and ISFP. The rest I don't have around my life.
My husband is INTP and its a bit like he is Q in 007, he has all the gadgets and know-how about physics/tech but I am more a 007 who knows exactly how to make the tech practical and operational/useful in reality or in the moment, however unpredictable and chaotic. I am ruthless and always in neutral gear.
12:48
I have a very close friend as ESFJ and there are definitely times where I can't withstand her (or vice versa).
Recently she just took offense to something I did (well I needed my space so I blocked her on a social and got honest about it) and she's like very seriously hurt. I don't understand what went wrong, since I was clear that I need my space and I might resort to this.
She did say "it's fine" and what not but I got a feeling she's really really pissed.
Appreciate the Ne/Fe eloquence for ESFJs. There's a particular word my Te prefers that sums them up more efficiently, but of course it's not RUclips appropriate.
"You will not break me. I'm still fighting for peace. I have a thick skin and an elastic heart."
Thank you for another video about me!
I've been waiting for this, great video!
don't you think INTJs and ENFJs would be a good with each other since both are looking for someone they can fully trust and both personalities are trustworthy (imo)? I see so little pairings with both personalities
INTJ/ENFP pair is already a meme, and one MBTI-app for searching a love partner suggests INTJ-ENFJ pair as on of the best for INTJ, so why not.
I've always found it interesting how INTJs/INTPs can get along nicely, even though they can sometimes be seen as enemies in certain shows or just all around irl.
Bill Gates-INTP/Elon Musk-INTJ
Dr.Manhattan-INTP/Ozymandias-INTJ
Kisuke Urahara-INTP/Soskue Aizen-INTJ
I'm an INTP, and INTJs seem extremely intelligent and hate wasting their time. They also have this particular skill that I've noticed from certain characters from time to time, but they can be Masters of Manipulation and somehow use people as pawns to reach their own goals.
I can significantly respect this, as I see this as a battle of wits. INTJs can defeat the powerful mind that an INTP possesses as INTPs can be gullible at times as they don't really care for anything they have little to no interest in, so with that in mind, I believe if they were to stay in the shadows for too long, they could potentially surpass anyone.
Funny enough, that would be the only way an INTJ could defeat an INTP, as INTPs can know when something is false or true. INTJs are more tactful, as where INTPs are better at strategizing. Think of it like this, Ozymandias aka "The Smartest Man In The World," had defeated Dr.Manhattan, aka "The Smartest Being In Existence, as he had used Manhattan's powers to energize his weapon, and without Manhattan, his weapon would be deemed useless. Manhattan was gullible, as he believed Ozymandias was a friend, as they were once part of a group fighting for the common good, but this was all a façade to get into the minds of people and for society to see him as a hero.
Dr.Manhattan was then forced to live on Mars, as everyone had deemed him an issue, and taking more chances with him would be dangerous. This is one instance where an INTJ defeats an INTP, but then we have Kisuke Urahara defeating Sosuke Aizen.
Aizen was at his peak power and had transformed into something that would surpass all hollows and soul reapers; he did this with the idea that if he could become the most powerful being within soul society, he could beat the Soul King himself and then he would rule over everything from Hueco Mundo to Soul Society as well. At this moment, when Aizen had reached his goal, Kiskue would need to devise a solution to defeat Aizen before he grew even more vital. This plan was basically to seal him away and keep him under lock and key; this plan would work, as Kiskue created a seal using three hado-style spells, weakening his power for the seal to work. Kiskue would defeat Aizen, with Aizen recognizing that Kiskue had an incredible intellect and why is it that Kiskue himself doesn't change the world to fit his vision of how the world should be. Kiskue then states that without the Soul King, the soul society would fall apart, ending in chaos and tragedy.
People say that if we have INTJs, why do we need INTPs? I've thought about this many times before, and it's come down to one conclusion; INTJs don't see the entirety of the big picture. They see what rewards them the most and what is the quickest way to get things done, which is why I've always seen the "Judging" aspect to have its weakness, then again anything can be a weakness, as "Perceivers" at times are deemed "slow." INTJs don't consider the feelings of others, the amount of damage something can do, or the negatives of some things as, again, they are quick with their choices and know what they are after. As where we INTPs want to learn everything and will consider everything to be "Learning." We INTPs are emotionless as well, but we tend to think that learning human emotion can do something great for us and learning anything new is interesting.
as a young INTJ i have to say your sieries comparsion translates to Real live as peopel tend to have a certin "Staus Thing or activity" to them right from the start .(im Not going into detail as i got confused on half of the names due to me watching the german versions of the animes.
2 point i dont consider the Feelings of others to Look if their ok but to See what they could and can do to me or themselves(but i rarely think about it . Just when i do i dont do it for the Sake of being "nice" i do it for the Sake of knowing what These actions can do when reapeted ) and yeah it makes me feel like i SHOULD feel sorry but ⅕ of the peopel that i "manipulate" did way worse things to me (sometimes) .
I read the entire Text thanks for giving me more power ...i mean exchanging Information 😀
@@beagrothus7916 Whatever helps. I'm never worried about anything, as I plan ahead and run scenarios in my head of certain ideas and concepts.
@@theanimelogician3588 Relatabel.
Exept the worrying.
"I've always seen the "Judging" aspect to have its weakness"
Exactly, INTJs don't consider Everything.
Both go much father then other types in search of Truth, while disregarding any Emotions.
It's just that INTJs stop earlier when they don't see any Utility.
INTPs will go farthest (or entertain any idea) while ignoring Utility and Emotion.
- From INTP
I'm an INFP. And my best friend is a men INTJ 🎉 the most authentic friendship I had in my entire life
Both high Fi users. You self-centered bastards
I'm an INTP and I really like to be with an INTJ finally I have a bigger value
I just think INTJs don't put emphasis on the form enough. Fe is related to communication with others. For most thinkers, including INTJs, it seems impossible to make the form of what you say correspond to what you actually mean. They have Fe blind so it's not surprising. But there is different ways to say the same thing. They're just never focused on how the person received the information. Actually you could argue they don't succeed to look authentic anyway because they often say what people think of them isn't their real intentions. That partially explains why what they say isn't received as how they internally see it. There is a disconnection between their mind and their speech because of that. The main problem actually comes from the fact that their real intentions are usually left unknown, so you let people interpret your words, specifically because you don't interpret them yourself. Are you saying those facts to help me, humiliate me ? Even if you say facts, everyone has a mind and intentions when they take a decision. People who use Fe don't get misinterpreted (unless they're going too far from what they actually mean) because they choose their words carefully to still succeed to convey their intentions and emotions. Thinkers don't, (or at least some of them). ENTPs convey intentions very clearly for exemple (even when they're not their actual ones) because they know what words to use to provoke the emotional response they expect. In fact, people with Fe convey their emotions and intentions so well that they can fool others. That doesn't mean people with Fe necessarely fake. You could even say they can appear more authentic because they can communicate intentions and emotions better. That's just a valuable skill, nothing more. So INTJs try to speak with authenticity but people can never get what form this authenticity takes. You can speak with authenticity but what is the point if you can't convey your authenticity ? INTJs can also be considered fake at times if they say they didn't want to be mean but people won't necessarely believe them. *All the words you choose matter.*
I hope it will be helpful for thinkers to develop their skills in communication and will encourage them to show their emotions more.
A fellow Ni dominant, INFJ.
Amen to this!!
Thanks for this, screenshotted and will keep this mind at all times.
Been through this experience so many times. I learned to be very careful with my words, but sometimes I still slip up.
I am 60 now and definitely find moments of E available to me to help out the I at times when it is needed
That was great, thank you.