How INFJs See the 16 Personalities
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How INFJs See the 16 Personalities
0:03 - ESTP
1:09 - ISTP
2:25 - ENFJ
3:36 - ENTP
5:10 - ISFJ
6:28 - ENTJ
7:51 - ESFP
8:56 - INFP
10:31 - INFJ
11:25 - INTP
12:14 - ESFJ
13:32 - INTJ
15:05 - ISFP
16:11 - ENFP
17:15 - ISTJ
18:15 - ESTJ
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Thanks for the shortcut.
'If you have an INFJ and an INTJ on the same page dedicated to the same mission, that is quite an unstoppable force...assuming they have people to do the leg-work.'
Bloody leg-work.
- INTJ married to an INFJ
Hahaha, this is so true. As an INFJ I often have brilliant intuitive ideas, but I don't necessarily enjoy the effort of putting them into place and doing the hard work. It can be a good trade-off though, and I'm starting to actually appreciate teamwork more. It's great if everyone can focus on their area of strength
It’s crazy how infjs and enfps have no cognitive functions in common but due to the shared order of intuition feeling thinking sensing, they are actually pretty similar sometimes
Indeed. The more you dig into things, the more overlaps you see between the types even when they don't have obvious similarities in common ~ Nathan
YES there were times I wondered if I was an enfp instead, but when watching common problems of each and observing certain habits of others I’m definitely an infj.
ENFP’s are a lot better in some things that I struggle with.
Renato Russo, brazilian singer, is typed as ENFP, but I always saw him as INFJ.
As an ENFP, I love this comment.
INFJs are my best relationship match. They are da best.
ENFPs, we don't quite fit as well. They're just too me. I feel no polarity with them.
i have an enfp friend and shes the only one i clicked with instantly
As an ESTP, I love INFJs!! They’re very interesting, although sometimes it’s hard to talk to them because I get the impression they’re a bit intimidated by me, or at least want me to carry the conversation haha. INFJs, we want to listen to you! I promise I don’t love the sound of my own voice. A lot of my friends have been INFJs growing up and they were all very timid and went along with what everyone else wanted to do, I think I’ve spent my whole life trying to push these people into speaking their own opinion instead of being a pushover 💀 All in all, they’re very fun to talk to, and self reflect with, because they think deeply about life and move through it at a slow and steady pace with caution and patience.
I'd want an ESTP friend for sure :) who I can help a lot and who respects my low batteries.
I have a funny story for u. I'm an infj and i was on a trip with this couple, an estp guy and his SO. He was super drunk and we were chilling in the sea on a beach. He said idk how to have fun but he can tell by my face or something that deep within I'm eager to have new experiences.
Then as a dare, he took me on top of a rocky that was fairly tall near the ocean and gave me his hand to jump together in the water. I, purely out of rebelliousness to "prove a point" that yea I want to have fun...was just about to jump with him when a WHOLE SHIP OF PEOPLE yelled at us from afar to not do it the water is shallow. We might have actually broken our asses in the middle of a beach that day if they hadn't stopped us💀💀💀💀
@@aladdout9454 lmfao🤣 the shits we do when were with our estp friends is unreal. Fr i would never have do the things i did with my estp friend if i was on my own or with any other person😂😂. We turned into this rebellious team where I was the planner and he was the enforcer
As an INTJ, when I have conversed with my INFJ friend, it was like I was meeting the version of myself that actually care about other's feelings, I mean I do care, kind of, sometimes, I guess depending...
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I'm an INFP female in a relationship with INFJ male for 10 years. We get along so well. We really connect over our values, insights, observations, and creativity. Yet, he is definitely more of the mediator between me and the rest of the world. He definitely creates harmony with others while I often want to rebel against the group and remain a loner.
It's cool to hear about successful relationships between the types! ~ Nathan
As an ENTP, i have often found myself relating to infjs so this is pretty accurate
Sometimes it's tricky to bring up particular potential mistypes because they seem so different as types. INFJ / ENTP is that I've wanted to dive into more for quite a while ~ Nathan
My INTP kid and my INFJ niece are a dynamic duo when they're together, happily tumbling down rabbit holes. Their mother (who I'm fairly certain is an ISFJ) is someone I've always aspired to be more like, parenting wise. Their patient, attentive and caring nature raised an incredibly wonderful child. One of the few people in this world that I adore. - ISTP
It's fascinating when certain types bring out specific sides of other types. I've seen INFJs and INTPs go down that intellectual rabbit hole many times in each other's company ~ Nathan
“Eccentric brain buddies” is wholesome and true :)
'They're trying to manifest things in reality that aren't there yet'
Wow, just wow, it's so accurate in my case it's almost scary! I'm an INFJ and I became the first professional stunt scooter rider in my country. Later this sport exploded in popularity and got flooded by Se-dom types. It wasn't easy to accept that those guys are just naturally better at things you spent your whole life practicing, but once I embraced my role as a mentor, coach, judge, advisor, etc (more typical INFJ-ish stuff) I was able to find inner peace and continue doing what I love. ESTPs certainly help me to get out of my introverted loops, have some fun and actually implement important stuff. And honestly, I feel more comfortable while putting them in the spotlight, than being the center of everyone's attention myself. We make a great team together!
All the other descriptions are spot on as well, I could probably share a real life example confirming every one of those (but that would just take too long). Thank you for these brilliant insights!
Absolutely love this comment, and that story you mentioned! Cool videos as well by the way! ~ Nathan
I love that! First stunt scooter rider
That's so cool and yeah the jealousy can be real, us infjs really need to push ourselves to get out of our own heads lol
As an ENFP I absolutely appreciate this series! I love travelling in other peoples minds and viewing the world from their perspectives. It's so interesting and fascinating 🤗
Me too.
~ ENFP
Same, especially if it's the mind of an Infj or Intj. They are just so fascinating.
Definitely fascinating and helpful, it’s hard to imagine others mind work. -intp
@@radioktiver_boomerang Hey same here, I thought I was alone!
That didn't occur to me actually, but it makes sense that ENFPs would be particularly into a series like this exploring the various different types and their perspectives! ~ Nathan
I find it crazy how I (an INFJ) see practically everyone as "what can I learn from them" or "what can I suggest to them", for most people I know things aren't like that. (I want to clarify, this is not a abt being wise or sage, since it often gets mixed with ego and I suggest where nobody ask, or give too much space to ideas that are just not worthy. Or the opposite, I close someone with the premise of "there's nothing to learn", without realizing there was)
And I'm enjoying the video a lot so far bc it really displays that mindset lmao.
10:30 Yeah, exactly. I see a lot of people that I know are not INFJ, but insist they are, and ofc I don't push them but it kinda bothers me ngl 💀
How can I say this, I think that the people that want to be an INFJ have a lack of understanding of what makes us how we are, and how often we are practically fighting our own head trying to understand why are we thinking about something.
This is so amazingly accurate! I've never really thought about this (I'm an INFJ too), but this is exactly how I think about people. I was just thinking about the other types while watching this video and I was thinking to myself "I admire this thing about this type, this thing about this type..." and thinking about them as inspiration in certain life aspects. When communicating with others I always see what they could improve :D
As an entp, it is usually how said person can be of an entertainment.
In the past times it is hard to find anyone who can be interesting enough. Usually once you learn few they all keep falling in the same categories.
Weirdly enough I also don’t capitalize on opportunistic manipulations since it feels dull when you aren’t that authentic.
I'm literally the same, and I am an INFJ too
It makes sense to me. It's also something I've seen a lot in practice. INFJs are quite brilliant at managing relationships in that way. They see the value and potential of them and try to realise that. Sometimes people don't take that approach and leave so much on the table because of it ~ Nathan
Intj here married to an infj. And this is exactly what our issues were at first. I saw him as weak and fake in front of people and he saw me as wreckless and lacking emotion when it came to people. All this personality info has really helped us understand each other better over the last few years. Now we’re working together to get some projects done and we got a kick out of the “are an unstoppable force.” 🙌🏼
Nathan, these are all so insightful. "As an INFJ", this really is how I see people. It's far out to me that you can model other people to this extent. Also, I totally agree in particular about ESTP, ISTP, and ENTP. One thing I always like about ENTPs is that they don't think I'm a sociopath when they find out that underneath my friendly exterior I have a lot of weird questions and curiosities. There are so few people in this world who don't mind if you ask things like "If you could breed people like dogs, what would you breed for?"
Ok, that question is amazing. I might ping people with that question on the LW Discord server and watch the chaos unfold (at a safe distance). Thank you for this comment! ~ Nathan
ESTJ, productivity without progression.
That's so accurate lol.
I'd like to earn and learn at the same time. Things usually require me to earn before learning stuff.
Aggressively shouted “THANK YOU!” across my house when you mentioned potential for ENTPs and INFJs to mistype as one another. It’s so clear to me and I just end up with a lot of blank faces looking back at me when I try to explain.
I know a guy who did mistype this way (also tests can suck)
Im an INFJ and I sometimes feel very similar to the ENTP but then when I see how they are a little more on the inside, I dont feel very similar to them anymore. But I really like ENTPs, they are very charming and its almost like they have everything I like.
It's a tricky one to explain, especially to people who aren't too deep down the rabbit hole of typology. It's definitely something I've seen a lot of though! ~ Nathan
For a very long time I thought I was an ENTP, but it was mostly because I didn't understand what Ni really was. When I finally heard a comprehensible explanation (which was actually on this channel!) I finally felt understood. I think I present a lot like an ENTP, since I have to stimulate conversation quite regularly for my friends, and absurd debates are really great since they lead to funny things being said and feelings aren't regularly hurt.
Bro looking back at the time when I was younger and a massive people pleaser, it surprises me how ENTP like my behaviour was😂. I got threatened to be expelled from school for breaking rules multiple times but they never did anything to me because I was the top student lol.
As an INFJ I just want to add that both ENTP and ENTJ drain me of my precious energy more than the other types as they appear to thrive on conflict and criticism.
Honestly I think that’s the more unhealthy versions of them. Healthy ENTPs (at least the ones I’ve met) thrive more on intellectual discussion and picking people apart, and have generally been really smart and good at banter (I love banter).
INFJ - INTJ - precisely the relations between my friend and me. I find him too cautious, too caring about his image in other people's eyes and too indecisive because of that. My friend finds me tactless, valueless, sometimes violent about other people's feelings (well, after 9 years of our friendship he has already ceased to be surprised by my behaviour and attitude towards people). Though I don't know whether he ever considered a question of me using other people. It's kind of interesting for me, but at the same time dangerous to ask him about.
That is interesting, I an INTJ have been married to an INFJ for 7 years now and though I would say that is they way I saw her 7 years ago I now can no longer deny that my communication model is greatly lacking without implementing her sensitivity. Observing her has thought me that if my intent is to change someones mind and due to a lack of sensitivity I have invoked a negative response then I have failed to communicate effectively.
In the same breath I would say her ability to stand up for herself and not compromise has grown much over the years by observing me.
I guess in friendship differences of view like this is often fun while in marriage it is difficult to not adopt the others views over time.
@@ghostapi874 there truly is some mutual influence between me and my friend, but while you and your wife are (I guess and hope) healthy INTJ and INFJ, we both are quite unhealthy representatives of our types, with respective consequences. Now I think about it, it seems like it manifests in our behaviour in a similar way: we both cease to contact with people. Friend, though being kind, thoughtful, empathic as a proper INFJ, only sits at home 24/7; me, being a manipulator, schemer and generator of too-out-there ideas as a proper INTJ, refuse to cooperate with people and try to rely onto and get into account myself only.
@@mirriyastia7041 haha I love how unapologetically you own your “unhealthyness”.
I’m disabled due to chronic illness and I think if I had a life where I was not as dependent on others I would likely have been an unapologetic unhealthy intj aswell.
That which you describe does feel like a real version of myself and I’m not sure what the greater gift is… To really live your true unhealthy self or to be forced to grow beyond it.
@@ghostapi874 Sorry, if I misread your comment. However, no INTJ needs to be purposefully malevolent (unhealthy INTJ) just because they are not suffering from some physical disability. The stereotype of INTJ "not being sensitive" comes from them not caring for being a social butterfly or them not putting feelings above efficiency. INTJs are not going out everyday looking to create emotional damage in the minds of others.
From another INTJ
@@mirriyastia7041 Yep, I can fully empathize with the "I'm sitting at home 24/7"-type...
Thanks for this video, Nathan. As an INFJ myself, these descriptions are all very accurate. I was overjoyed when I discovered the Myers Briggs concept, as I finally felt understood.
It's great to hear that you found it accurate! ~ Nathan
INTJ and INFJ -- the unstoppable force dedicated to the same mission "ASSUMING they have people to do the leg work" --- ha ha ha, so true (and actually sad at the same time)
I love this, Nathan ! 🫶🏼
ENFJ: "like them, but with batteries" 😄 Yep!
ENTPs are INFJs natural partners, or so Ive heard. My longest relationship of decades is an ENTP male, and you're spot on. 🙏🏽 Thank you for your insights and work.
I'm glad you found it accurate!
It's always cool to hear from real life examples of these relationships. I've definitely seen INFJ/ENTP relationships work out brilliantly in practice. If you haven't already, feel free to check out the other INFJ videos on the channel ~ Nathan
wow, I actually know an ENTP and hes absolutely charming. Im an INFJ
Thank you for putting so much time, effort, and thoughtful insight into these videos. Your grasp of these relational dynamics is spot on, and it's just really nice to not only feel understood but to know there's quality information out there that others can reference to understand INFJs better in general. You really do a lovely job representing this type accurately, and it's deeply appreciated.
This is actually one of the most fun series to do, surprisingly! Trying to adopt the perspective of each type and see through their eyes is challenging but it helps dig deeper into these dynamics ~ Nathan
Thank you, Nathan. As an INFJ, your point about INFJs not wanting to be INFJs resonates with me. I find myself envying other types, although I'm probably romanticizing them. I also often wonder whether INFJs really do have their so-called visions.
In my case, more specifically, I envy the NTs in particular. The NTPs, especially INTP, because of their alleged aptitude for analyzing and evaluating systems. The NTJs, especially the INTJ, because of their alleged aptitude for strategizing and realizing visions.
Why do I envy the NTs? Personally, I have this truly inexplicable desire (1) to understand the conceptual systems that define our reality and (2) to change these systems -- to construct and realize new ones. I guess I see the NTPs as especially capable of the former and NTJs as especially capable of the latter. That is, at least in theory.
I envy STs as well! I imagine them being less conceptual and theoretical and more empirical and practical in their approach. But perhaps this makes them better at seeing reality for what it is, even better than NTs in some respect. Thus, perhaps this means that they are better at formulating more concrete plans of action based on systematic research of empirical data (the STJs) -- or they . . . act, based on their near-instinctual, but often brutally spot-on, assessment of a given situation, and actually make something happen in the present (STPs).
I'm a hopeless philosophy student, though, so I guess I envy NTs more because I have an admiration for old and new conceptual systems -- whatever that means.
By contrast, as an INFJ, -- although maybe it's just me -- I often feel like my head is submerged under water, wherein voices echo around me, sometimes voices that I cannot even identify, and they pull me down, weigh on me, and cause me to doubt myself, if I try to move one way as opposed to another. So I remain submerged. Head murky. Though my ears buzz, I rarely voice anything.
All this to say: although I have this inexplicable desire to understand reality and to change it, I don't understand how to pursue this desire, or -- even -- why this desire is even worth pursuing, because I listen to, and let myself be influenced by, too many voices.
I often wonder: when will I have this *INFJ vision*? When will I rise and see a clear horizon, a sun?
I feel like a submarine most of the time, anchored to the sea floor. Bubbling
Your desire to understand conceptual systems and create new ones is already realized on some level in your head. But because of Se inferior you probably never do anything about those thoughts and also conscious awareness of the ways in which you already do that is extremely low because Te.
If you gained conscious awareness of just a fraction of the intuitive thoughts passing through your head in one day and attempted to record them you'd see exactly what I mean. (I'm also INFJ)
It's a consistent recurring theme I've seen from INFJs - not being fans of their own type! It's quite comical actually how often I've heard it from people who are actually INFJs as opposed to mistyped people! Thank you for this comment, very interesting! ~ Nathan
oh god I relate to this so much. So poetical. the way you structured your thoughts is such an Ni thing haha. I have exactly the same issues as you described. it's good to know we're not alone, and that there's people out there like you and me who are living the same obstacles :') we'll rock this boat eventually!
I'm INFJ and I appreciate my ENTJ best friend SO MUCH! ENFJs get on my nerves.
As an INFJ who dated an INTJ...yes. He was the only one who really understood the metaphysical nature of my headspace. But our different tools - Fe and Te - clashed, because they value such different things. I felt immensely known, and also immensely misunderstood at the same time. It was very strange. I'm curious if others of this pairing have fared better.
And yes - I had an ESTJ professor for several classes, and that's exactly what she did to me. I make a ton of work in her class, but without the time to reflect and ponder the significance of it to my overall vision, most of it ended up going nowhere. Made like a year of empty work, essentially. And got terribly drained as a result. But I do know how to manage my time effectively now because of her.
Everything here is so true!
Except, I don't admire ESTPs but that's possibly down to the fact that the ones I met were unsophisticated (to use an Fe-diluted term lol) in their speech (actually a mixture of unsophisticated and rude - without meaning to sound rude) and generally not paying attention to others, some unfortunately have been full on narcs which is a real shame. But I can think of some that I really like but unfortunately it's not the majority of them. But I like their being in the moment and spontaneity - and they can be very stylish.
You couldn't have expressed my love for ISFJs better. It often feels like we're the same. We have a lot in common - I could write a book about it. The only difference is the Si / Ni thing but if both sides adjust then we can love each other in a full-on Fe manner :) We also don't like bullshit - our Ti doesn't allow that :) And the INFJ can encourage the ISFJ to try new things, to think about something in a different way (basically unstuck them from their inf Ne fear of newness / action). And the ISFJ can do the more Se mundane things (and spur on the INFJ to do them as well) that they love doing as they show their care for the other person this way and for doing which the INFJ just doesn't care because the world of ideas is so much more exciting.
Yes, ENFJs are us on steroids. I may sometimes be seen as that as I'm an ambivert but I'll never have the level of energy or care to unite people the way ENFJs do. But we're also more decisive than ENFJs and there we can help.
Sometimes when INFPs say something in a group setting I'm like ohhhh, first think than speak. It's maybe not really offensive but if someone took offence then it would disturb the group harmony and my Fe doesn't like it. But thankfully most of the times no one takes offence, so it's fine. And contrary to the INFP I've never stood there observing people, I may often have jumped in too fast, to my detriment sometimes, so I really had to learn it. Yes, we're very similar but I'm the non-fiction and reality preferring type.
I agree regarding INFJs - we're the Hermes mini Kelly bag (if you know what I mean) - hard to get (rare) and extremely expensive (with a set of traits that people aspire to). And it's good to see the INFJ for what it really is - I wouldn't use the word conflicted here (though some may be), I think contradictory is what it is. People don't like cognitive bias - and we give them a lot of that :) But understanding INFJs can be a transferrable skill to understand the world better with all its variety and contradictions. Maybe the world would be less polarised. See what my Ni did here? :)
With ESFJs I've noticed that there's always a point at which their creativity comes to an end and things get very repetitive or even boring if you don't like what's being repeated. But they're energetic so they can bring the same idea all over again and people will love it because of that energy and enthusiasm.
The amounts of times I heard from an INTJ that I'm too concerned about what people think! And I must say they were right :) But as they get me well, they would never say that my ways with people are fake. And INTJ solutions have often literally saved my arse. Or sometimes they come up with something so brilliant, I wish I'd have thought of that.
ISFP as "a romantic blueprint for a certain kind of freedom" is THE essence of them. It's all they are. But if an ISFP gets something stuck in their head, no Fe user or anyone else can convince them otherwise. This is often unfortunately to their detriment but the Fi wins.
I can go into ENFP mode but that's only when I'm more in an extroverted mood, I will never be the 1000 projects started yet none of them finished person. But according to your definition I can be charismatic as I like to poke the bear a bit - but not too much, it's being more conceptual in expression and not meaning to offend. I can be blunt at times but that's the Ti, so not really ENFP mode in that.
I've never been in the "no surprises please" club :) I like a plan but can adjust. What I don't like is an Se -Te overload.
ESTJs are great for repetition of tasks but the "all the same all the time" would do my head in - so in that scenario a surprise or change of course would be very welcomed :)
I loved the "emphasis on the dick" in dictatorial :) This is a funny way to say the truth that often makes ENTJs not being appreciated. But they can emphasise the "wrong" part all they want, an INFJ is not someone to be dictated anything. Which the ENTJ has understood :) But when discussing something with them you just know that they understand your vision and this doesn't even need to be mentioned because it's "in the air". Same goes for discussions with ENTPs.
I'm an INFJ and you did a great job with this. I think you were spot on with almost all of them and the ones that weren't were still close
That’s awesome to hear! Thank you for this comment ~ Nathan
I am an INTJ and my best friend for over 12 years at this point is an INFJ. We are kinda different but still "get" each other.
Thanks for the great video!
I am an infj myself and I can totally agree on your take on the intjs. They often strike me as a bit rude, but can be totally oblivious to that. But since I have a quite random and dark humor, I almost always bond instantly over that with intjs. They are the only ones who really seem to get my jokes and we have the weirdest conversations.
I also LOVE isfjs. They seem so kind and sweet but can also be extremely bold when they stand up for their close ones or values. That is just admirable and I would never want to have an isfj as an enemy.
I think you nailed it Nathan. Thoroughly enjoyed your description of the ENTJ (emphasis on...). They and ESTJs sometimes drive me bananas.
You really have a gift!!! I have been bingeing your videos. The way you condense lofty ideas/metaphors into understandable nuggets without losing a bit of the richness - thank you!
I think I love most INTPs ... I'm surprised of how similar we can be.
-INFJ
what similar you mean
ISTP here. My cousin, who is an INFJ, and I have a very close relationship. Since I'm an only child, he's the closest thing I have to a brother. It's an interesting dynamic that we have, where I trust him more with people in our friend group and dealing with people that I don't know, and he trusts me to fix things or take the lead when action is required.
A good example for when I trust him regularly is when we play dungeons and dragons. I'm the DM and he encourages me when I have trouble conveying a certain feeling or emotion when RPing as an npc, and he's always giving me useful tips on handling player dynamics.
Conversely, he likes to play airsoft on weekends and sometimes comes to me with the arena layouts and asks for help creating strategies for different areas. Ones that the enemy team commonly holds down or tries to capture a flag from. He's often surprised at how well the strategies work out in practice.
Notice; both of the things mentioned above involve us being engaged in activities that make heavy use of our fourth functions. It's stressful, but also a bit liberating. I would encourage everybody to find some kind of activity like that if possible.
Edit: One interesting thing is that my cousin is legally, but not totally blind. He wears his glasses under his safety mask during airsoft and can rush people like a crazy madman before they even know what hit them. It's absolutely wild to watch him on the field. Something I have mad respect for.
This is so cool to hear! My husband and I have this pairing. He's the ISTP.
What you described is very similar. I'm fascinated by how well he fixes things and how well he can come up with physical strategy.
He shoves me to the front when people are upset and trusts my judgment when I say there's something off.
We both do martial arts, and even how you described your cousin is accurate. Although we have a rep for being planners, the truth is, sometimes even we don't know what we're going to do (especially in physical situations)!
Very interesting. I'm so glad you both have this dynamic.
And for the record, I think you got one of the coolest types.
@@otterinaballgown3703 I'm glad you think it's a cool type. I don't think so though. I have had to rely on people with things like buying a vehicle or showing my work at my job.
We've got systems down when they function under an unchanging and written in stone set of rules, like programming, engineering, or just working on a car. But people aren't like that, so it's always a mystery.
It's really turbulent not knowing who you can trust, all the while you have to trust other people to tell you who you can or can't trust. It's a really strange catch 22.
At least I know I can trust my parents and my cousin without a shred of doubt. So I'm thankful for that at least...
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😂 “emphasis on the dic” this had me dying lol. Duuuuude! Just found out my bro in laws an INFJ and this explains so much. I hate to judge him but I want to help..especially because he’s the head of a household. He has to take action…he’s been running in place forever! Thx for these vids
hahaha the dictatorial got me laughing! As an INFJ, this is true. Great video!!
I wrote something in my jurnal at 12 years old about an middle school classmate I believe was an estp. "He's like an alternate version of myself, I feel like he could understand me in a different way than most of my friends", my closest friends back than were isfps and infps which explains my thought process a bit.
Nathan at his best. Wonderful insights.
Thank you for this! Always awesome to see you in the comments ~ Nathan
FINALLY. LORD I'VE WAITED FOR THIS ONE FOR EONS NOW. :)
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Even I have an extra battery. I would really love to share with my friend. As ENFJ myself, I don't have INFJ as a close friend yet.
Honestly, I lack the energy to go into details. But I will try my best cause certain things mentioned here could potentially be taken out of context into thousand directions while missing the essence. 1. Authenticity and harmony are somewhat confusing terms. That is, if one doesn’t get the relationship one function has with other ones and where it is positioned in the stack. My mom would often be the one fostering good relationships with others. After all, INFPs are called mediators for a reason. They do mediate conflicts. On the other hand, my main concern is not harmony since Fe is my auxiliary function. It is getting to the core of things. Finding where something started/originated. Therefore, I tend to appreciate and search for originality. Whatever that originality may look like for others, I don’t care. They are free to search for it independently as I do that for myself. 2. What does Fe mean as a auxiliary function? For me, it means responsibility for others, fighting to bring ideals into practice that others could benefit from. It is concern for others but in a way that supports an idea/ideal. If I could help someone going through a hard time in life, I would do that without thinking twice. I understand that life is messed up and hits hard. Why would I add additional weight to it? Why would I try bringing someone down? Why would I tell anyone how to live their life? I can help by channeling my lateral thinking by asking questions to others while they try to search for answers on their own. After all, I do that all the time for myself. Only I can get stuck into that question - search for the right answer mode. And Fe could help me get out of that mental loop that feels like a vacuum. 3. I am not sure how shadow types are explained by experts. I know from practice that the versatile nature an ENFP shows on the outside is the one INFJs have as the core and hidden from plain sight. And the opposite is true. The depth someone sees in an INFJ is the inner core of ENFP. It is something like: what you see is merely a result happening hidden on the inside. 4. The difference between INTJ and INFJ is that one needs to place a system they find important/working for everyone to go with it. The other needs group cohesion while respecting individual differences. One goes against the group cohesion, the other goes against systems placed by authority. In practice, this is not always easy to distinguish. One needs to pay close attention to what exactly makes a type react. Types aren’t descriptions written in a book. It is more complex than that. 5. There is a quote that offers an alternative view to diplomacy: Diplomacy is the art of telling people to go to hell in such a way that they ask for directions.
ENTJ with the emphasis on “Dick” I’m INFJ married to an ENTJ. So true and funny 😂
hi could u tell me the overall experience in your dynamic infj-entj, i am an entj currently seeing an infj woman, she's interesting but I am not sure with her. she is so reserved with her thoughts, i am little bit tired being the one who makes the conversation keep going
@@mahardikaerza5010 we have been married for 37 years so it can work.We came to the understanding that I need some time to think and then to discuss things after. Also, I can see many sides to most situations and I feel bullied when I am expected to choose or to defend my position. I also don’t like to be told that what I am doing is not the most efficient thing so it’s wrong. The best thing to do with an INFJ is to listen without formulating a reply, so slow down and let him/her talk, and be able to repeat what they said. We’re not as logical as ENTJs but we have a lot of wisdom. Treat us with respect and go out of your way to show us that you are thinking of us and you are doing things you know we would like instead of doing what you want to do and expect us to speak up for ourselves. Be gentle, and soft, and he/she will eventually learn to be more open. If you are demanding or forceful they will withdraw.
Go ahead Nathan, tell me about myself . - INFJ
I have twins INFJ and ENFJ, the INFJ thinks his brother is too frantic and does not stop to think and reflect.
ENFJs can be overwhelming. They are amazing, but my energy runs out so fast. I've been married to an ENFJ for fifteen years. Excellent at handling the social aspect when we go out and enthusiastic about helping others. Sometimes can come on a little strong, but I also do that with people I am close to. It's insane how our energy can transfer because of Fe. It is challenging to have a good time when he's not having a good time and vice versa. A lot of pros but some cons, like every long-term relationship ;)
Im in an infj and my dad is estj and working together involves lots of yelling but we never miss anything because we're so opposite
Wow, I can sincerely say what all of this pretty accurate
~ INFJ who compares thoughts in this video with her own short notes about each type
Well, I'm glad that we're on the same page! ~ Nathan
Suggestion: Si vs Ni. The Stabilizer vs The Seer. The Past Seeker vs The Future Seeker.
"Stabiliser" is a great word actually. I'll have to bear that one in mind ~ Nathan
Darn, I'm really surprised by how spot-on these are! You explain them so well, too. I feel like I haven't 'typed' enough people to really make accurate statements about all of them, but there are some types which I do have a lot of experience with and your descriptions of those really do them justice...
I’ve been waiting for this. Let me enjoy this. Thank you.
How are you so good at this?!
My sister is an infj, and I think this is exactly how she thinks about people!
Our Dad is an esfj, and she's both very similar to him and also gets extremely aggravated by his ways! I've always found it easy to get along with him, but I don't share as many traits with him as she does.
And our sister relationship (infj and ENFP) has always been very good, but exactly like you say, she's always concerned with keeping everyone happy, and while I do, deep down, want that too, I tend to be a bit more abrasive, because I just say what I think, and see what happens next🤣. Charm vs charisma, although I would not have described myself like that. (It's true that although I make faux pas consistently and can be a bit "too much", people still like me, so maybe that's what it means. I thought it was more that I'm surrounded by very tolerant friends)
When she turns on her "nice" charm, I feel compelled to go in strong with chaotic truth, and then she is horrified, I am gleeful, she's scolding, I'm repentant, and then we laugh about the whole situation.
(And really, she secretly agreed with me the whole time!)
@@mokari9268 Yes, I can see that. My Fi is outraged by the switch that she does sometimes, she has her "hanging out and feeling safe" vibe, and if she suddenly switches to this mask of proper, "making a public statement to the press" vibe, I have a very difficult time being okay with that. It feels fake, even though I know she's not like that.
But she'd do this thing where on Christmas she'd refuse to bicker with me *because it's Christmas* and it drove me crazy! I'd pick fights with her, pressing her buttons until she lost her temper! And then I'd feel better (but guilty 😥) and try to cheer her up again. Not that I wanted to fight, it's just so insulting to be faced with this superior/valiant martyr mask, that I have the urge to do whatever is necessary to rip it off!
Now that we're adults, I have better self control and I'm more willing to accept that she's feeling something that makes her put up her mask, and that's okay if it makes her feel better.
(But I still pull at it a little bit, lol)
We're good for each other, and normally make an excellent creative team. I've always considered her the responsible, smart one, even though she's younger, and I'm the calming one, Not panicking or worrying about the troubles that come, easily thinking fast to find a good solution. (And to be fair, I sometimes am both the cause and solution of the problem, but at least we're having fun!)
I'm an ENFP with an INFJ sister as well! And our dynamic is exactly like this !
It's amazing to learn the disequilibrium between types. But rather to see what separates between us, you shed light on what connects in-between - at deeper roots. Also, glad you to hear you back.
happy to see someone explaining everyone how exactly i see the world
I was waiting for this. Thanks, Nathan.
IMMEDIATELY called out for all the times I hype up my "dual" type (ESTP) smh smh smh not even 30 seconds in
Edit 1: ugh the commentary in the ISTP section is so true. The first example I can think of when I actually realized _after_ the fact what happened is when my brother was worried we were going to go to war, in late 2021, and I was like "here's a bunch of connections between people that mean we aren't going to get into a conflict with Russia" but because War is Depressing I extrapolated that into "Russia won't invade Ukraine it's all just a bluff" to the point that I bet him $20 about it.
I lost the bet, obviously.
And, rereading my journal from spring 2021 (when the buildup started), in the privacy of my own head I was so sure Russia was going to invade that I only hoped Zelenzkyy managed to play a strategic PR game.
In the end, I was right about Zelenskyy and PR, and I was right the current US gov wouldn't try to destroy Russia, but I'm still a bit weirded out that my judgement got so clouded by Fe 🤦♂️
Edit 2: OMG RIGHT!! I mistyped as an ENTP for so long!!
Cool to see that you agree with some of the points made in the video. I often wonder about whether these theoretical ramblings line up with people's actual experiences in practice ~ Nathan
As an INFJ, this is spot on!
INFP and ISTJ are on point
Thank you! ~ Nathan
I'm an INFJ and my favorite fictional character ever is Scarlett O'hara.. a true ESTP. Hahaha I tend to really admire ESTPs, your description is spot on!
I loved how you pointed out how INFJs and ENTPs can be mistyped, because from last two weeks I'm not able to get that thought out of my head. The functions so different yet so similar! I often get stuck thinking whether I'm an INFJ Or ENTP.
Wow thank you so much for putting into words my preference for logic as an INFJ! Despite being a feeler, I feel much more comfortable with logic because of the safety in it. Then again, my logic sometimes makes no sense to others so take that as you will
I had a manager that was an ENTJ, I'm pretty sure she'd never come across an INFJ before. I could see her trying to figure me out, and even after several years she still didn't quite get me. She eventually learned I do best when mostly left alone and that micromanagement and criticism (even the "constructive" type) was almost never received well. Certainly not from her anyway (BLUNT! To the point of rude, and delivered while she smacked her gum with an open mouth).
I don't love being an INFJ, but when I look at all the other types I don't necessarily think any other looks better, just different. INFJ feels most like "home", as uncomfortable (or even painful) as that can be at times.
Thanks for sharing
I've always wished i were an INTP/ISFJ 😊. Oh, to feel so useful!
Thank You for another gem, Nathan! 💖😸
OK haha wow, so good! As an INFJ I love testing the people in my dircet environment, so with almost every description I had a specific person in mind. And so many times, you hit the nail on the head. Well done, keep up the great work (especially the videos about INFJs ;) )
Whenever you release an INFJ video, it convinces me for awhile that I'm actually an INFJ instead of an ENFJ. I still think I vacillate, but given I view people similarly to the INFJ in this video, it's interesting. Especially in energetic levels. But am I introverted... or am I just OLD? 😂
Hahaha I love the notice of secretly admiring ESTPs. I suspect my driving instructor is an ESTP. After a rocky start, we formed a great couple. We made an unusual connection, but perhaps not that unusual after all. I was familiar with MBTI when I met him, so I was looking forward to the experience.
Also, I've had my few ESTP-stereotype 'hold my beer'-moments at parties and sports events, which have been surprising some people to see this side of me.
INFJ. Here's my version:
ESTP: the ones who play sports at school and keep hitting up on the chicks. Not my type, or someone I would date. But charming nonetheless.
ISTP: the ones I would call to fix something at home, fix a car, etc. The handyman. Down to earth. Someone I would like to be with in an apocalypse.
ENFJ: someone I would want to be my mom / mom archetype. Love how their organizational skills over people and being able to help so many people without being drained very easily
ENTP: loves debates. Just wants to prove themselves correct while being unaware people are already crying because of the ridiculous things they say
ISFJ: sister archetype. I love their cooking skills! I would want an ISFJ to be my best friend. Comforting. I love them. They are the practical version of INFJs.
ENTJ: bossy but gets rich easily and intelligent
ESFP: entertaining. The type to go to when I want some mindless entertainment. Great fashion style. Confident.
INFP: fellow empathetic soul, but can be too idealistic and easily taken advantage of. I feel the need to protect them from the harsh world.
INFJ: yo my fellow unicorns where ya at :)
INTP: someone I would marry and find fascinating. A great partner for INFJ on many fundamental levels.
ESFJ: the popular girls, impeccable fashion style but mean girls / mean girl vibes and manipulative bullies behind a pretty face
INTJ: smart but evil and have no concern for humanity
ISFP: artist vibes. I love their artworks, paintings, songs, etc. Creative soul and caring too. Someone to share art with, learn some artistic techniques, go to art galleries with, consult for interior design
ENFP: like INFP, but gets themselves into trouble more easily. Annoying but endearing.
ISTJ: someone I would go to to do my taxes and paperwork. Very practical and always keeps the house very clean but can be neat freaks but very useful people
ESTJ: someone I would need to get shit done.. like ISTJ
My mom is infj and im intj and this fits perfectly ahaha 😅
Please do a video on INFJ and ENFP as a couple.
maybe ENTPs too :)
What do you think bout alter ego subject? AWhat do you think about the subject of alter egos, After some research, I saw that "alter ego" personalities are mostly similar, e.g :
INTP and ENTJ or ENTP deep inside could be INTJ ,it's quite opposite, but if an entp would develop or change certain habits or strengths/mildness in their personality, it should be naturally easier for them to go down the INTJ path. This can be useful to know if someone wants to experience some self-development (like, thinking : what could i do better in my life... hm im entp so maybe i ll read smth about my aler ego and find some chance to make my "weak" spots stronger or better)
btw sorry for my eng.
(Gets a mixture of Yeah, nailed it! and Lol) For me, ESTP Uno reverse us, ENFPs Lumos us, INTJs I want to Hi5 and say Mischief managed! INFPs have the heart in the right place!
Great!
You should do a live q &a/ discussion about anything really hopefully Lu joins or any other friends 🙏🏼
This was really well done; I very much appreciate it.
Thank you! For whatever reason, I think this video has been the longest video in this series so far. I'm glad that people are getting something valuable from it ~ Nathan
As an INFJ who have met, known and typed at least 14 of these types, I can undoubtable say that this is one of the most accurate videoes I’ve seen, on how I view other types.
This is great to hear! ~ Nathan
Emphasis on the ‘dic’ for ENTJ - brilliant!
Make an Istj one :D
That’s so interesting because I am an entp girl and I often times will see things written about infj and I wonder that’s very relatable maybe I’m an infj and i think no pfft that’s crazy cause we are typed so differently but hm maybe not so crazy after all.
It's definitely one of the less talked about mistypes. I've noticed that especially online INFJs can emulate that speaking style and banter that ENTPs are often known for. There have been a few INFJs on the LoveWho Discord server who have gone on that typing trajectory - starting off thinking they were ENTPs only to realise that they were in fact INFJs ~ Nathan
@@lovewho I wonder how does one go about knowing of they’ve been mistyped? 🤔
@@lovewho yo so true me & my ENTP bestie got mistyped as each other. I swear our humor aligns well so much. Like mirrors sometimes. ENTP's break off my serious demeanor. I guess cause of our functions Ti-Fe & Fe-Ti. Different yet alike??
Your capacity to understand the types really astounds me.
Please make more videos on how the different personalities view each other. More videos like this. Please 🙏 -entp
This is excellent.
Love your content! ❤️
As an INFJ I feel like I appreciate and admire ENFPs and ISTJs more than mentioned.
Also I weirdly feel like I have a love and will to help some ISFJs I know which I cannot bring into fruition satisfyingly.
I was trying to figure out who each of these personalities are in my life based off the descriptions and I think it's pretty accurate lol
Ohh I was waiting for this! Thanks for another good video
I'm an ENFJ and i personally know an INFJ that is more "extroverted" than I am wich is weird.
Fantastic man keep it up I love this series
Now I’m wonder if I’m an INFJ with ADD. 😅
In the past I’ve always gotten INTP or INFP in tests. (50/50 on T F)
"Granularity"! Well played, sir. -ESTJ
INFJS are awesome bruuh❤❤❤
-an INFP
I usually wish that I was an ESTP or ESFP.
-INFJ
This cant be more true. My brother is an INFJ and I'm an ENTP
As an INFJ, I can confirm this video is very accurate! I'd add that we see ENFJs more people oriented than us, while we are more intellectual and analytical. There are many INFJs who are not that people oriented, myself included. I've always been fascinated about the world and life at large, more than people near me
Just found out I have an intj manager and that checks out
I'm an INFJ and the first one hits hard. "INFJs see ESTP as their bold, daring alter ego." There are two kinds of INFJ: the ones that hate ESTPs and the ones that love ESTPs. I'm one of the latter and simp vor ESTPs, because they have much characteristics I would like to have. Their go to vibes are very appealing to me.
whatever I am, I can understand the urge to flow against the external, to find something new
INFP here with an INFJ personal trainer. She also teaches group classes. Yet, I’ve never taken one. I can’t deal with groups. So, I spend thousands of dollars for one-on-one training sessions 😂
Im glad you mentioned the dick in ENTJ 😂. I've yet to converse with another INFJ that feels this way, so I thought I was an outlier.
My son is possibly an ESFP and I find myself telling him to chill out more often than not. I let him be his full self while at home, but feel the need to prep him before he attends any sort of activity outside the home.
As an infj, it is true what i feel about estps. 😢
Too dictatorial- emphasis on the “dic”…😅 (7:03) Yes this is absolutely true.
Your discord server scares me. - INTJ
In school, I was an INFJ with an ESTJ math teacher who believed I was an idiot, even groaning and insulting me in front of the class, because I couldn't memorize all the seemingly pointless methods for solving algebra problems. (This was Algebra I.) Naturally, I completely flunked the first quarter. The second quarter wasn't much better, I earned the lowest passing grade. However, toward the end of the third quarter, something clicked, and overnight I *understood* algebra. I salvaged that third quarter, averaging an acceptable grade. But, by the fourth quarter, having harnessed my pattern-recognition power and achieving a sort of mathematical epiphany, I was by far the top student in the class, achieving an "A" in Algebra I. My teacher would ask me to go to the blackboard and have me show him and the class how I was able to solve an algebra problem so quickly. When I did so, despite his prior disparaging attitude toward me, he was humble enough to admit before the class that I had figured out algebra in a way that he never had. Pattern recognition, as an INFJ, is central in my life and has been a feature of work performance for my entire working life. (I'm retired now, and looking for other stimulating challenges.)