Props to you to devoting so much time to talking about your x's. But maybe it's time to move on. I know you still love them, but they don't love you. Otherwise, they'd give you so much more. Sadly, your x's don't offer much of significance beyond themselves.
Yeah but Steve you gotta realize, the real value is always in the 9's and 7's, which, while often overlooked, is as we all know where the real performance lies. So they're still selling you those not only 7 tiers, but even throwing in a 9 on top with TWO x's in one case. A bargain, if you ask me. Intel only sells one 7 these days, and no x's, for many hundreds of dollars.
Yes there really was a xxx version of the XFX RX580. A 7900XTX version of this would give it 8 X's, which would be 700% more X than an RTX 4090. Love to see the Nvidia fan boys after XFX drops this 8X monster.
Bring back CrossFireX and put 4 XFX RX 7900 XTX XXX CrossFireX cards in your system for a total of 36 Xs. NVIDIA may as well declare bankruptcy right now.
XFX Presents the new limited time GPU: The XFX RX 7900 XTX EXXEXXIVE XXX'S EDITION! We've replaced all C's and S's with X's, for extra excessiveness. Because we care.
This is why I always wait for the Gamers Nexus review before buying anything. I had completely ignored the XFX 7900 XTX but seeing the 66% uplift in X's compared to the the stock Radeon 7900 XTX I am now going to get one.
@@CheeseTheFish Unfortunately my comment was satire. As I paid an astronomical amount for my current RX 6900XT Gaming Z Trio during the dark times that shall not be named and as I game at 1440p I am actually not going to be upgrading for another generation or so. :D
@@LC-pp4bb I don't know, miners are all trying to sell off the cards they already have and scalpers all got burnt at the end of the GPU shortages. I can see these coming back into stock and being relatively available in the next few weeks.
I feel like 7900 XT and XTX should be revisitied - especially after the new drivers and price drops. 6950xt is way cheaper as well, so those 3 cards are in a interesting battle between eachother that I would love to see.
@@traditional_trekkie was actively trying to purchase a PowerColor reference 7900 xt open box from Amazon Warehouse for $660 but it was the last one and sold out as I tried buying :( so I bought the same model new for $750 which is not a bad price, definitely could’ve waited for it to be $700 or less tho
@@traditional_trekkie I was able to get an open box 7900xt for $630 at Micro Center and it's been great - if you can get a deal like that, would highly recommend
The pricing for the XTX actually makes sense considering the power it has and being able to perform at the same level of not better than a card that is more expensive.. The 7900 XT should've just been a 7800XT.
The X test @ 3:31 is truly ground breaking, others releasing benchmarks should be taking notes as it’s more, if not just as important as staring at an fps counter.
The worst part is that the benchmark is actually important for people despite claiming otherwise. Why do you think people buy inferior RGB products instead of better non-RGB products? Monkey brain is real.
@@dildojizzbaggins6969 syntactically incorrect, but you know exactly what it meant in the context. I could change it for you if it helps you understand. But by concatenating the two words, would it really change the semantics of the whole comment?
I'm glad you mentioned the X benchmark as the card also performs better using an X CPU like the 5600X in an X570 Mobo. It's minor in the grand scheme of things, but those extra X's give you an edge.
I just have to say that I greatly appreciate you benchmarking the number of X's. I know this bit has been said but the street your shooting on looks nice have been a great change of pace for these two reviews.
@@GamersNexus Naming suggestion. 0. X-Less 1. Un-X 2. Squared-X 3. Cube-X To make it even more clear. (also it enables the letter Q (sort of 2ce), which makes the user aware of the next letter that will supercede X in the Future)
honestly I never liked the 7900xtx, but especially after comparing the xfx7900xtx to the rtx 4090, I know which card was clearly the best I mean 1 card has 4X es and the other only 1 X.
Really loved the X-chart comparison. Took me completely by surprise. Love that you can inject humor into yet another benchmark year after year. Hats off to you.
Used RTX 3070 for U$300 in my case, this is a really terrible gen of GPUs which we should all forget about and leave them gathering dust in the shelves so maybe next gen Nvidia and AMD will wake up and realize mining is over and astronomical GPU prices are no longer acceptable.
Mate, both of them. Imagine the xtx at $899 and the xt at $699. That would be the right price point for them. The 6000 series have to go below $500 and we're good to go. Nvidia should also pull their heads out of their asses, and put their cards on the correct price points.
@@kylestewart4444 They wouldn't win anything by doing that. They wouldn't maximize profits this way, also amd's market share is too insignificant to be even bothered with such strategies.
@@kylestewart4444 Then they'd cut their own profits massively as they know people will buy Nvidia regardless, it'd undercut their unsold 3xxx stock to boot, the shareholders would be banging on Jensen's door p.s. looks at Steve standing outside in the rain in a T-shirt, looks outside here at temps a fraction above freezing and snow and ice, I want your job Steve.
@@flegmaniac3462 You can only sell your cards at the price they're selling them at to "maximize profits" if people are actually buying them at those prices. The GPU shortage/ insanity of the recent past is currently over. Meaning not every damn card instantly sells out no matter what the price is. These cards are in stock everywhere and are more or less just sitting on the shelves. Sure Nvidia and AMD both want nothing more than to maximize profits. That's what a publicly traded company's job is. But when your product isn't selling because the market segment / consumers decide that the price is ridiculous. Sooner or later in order to "maximize profits" you do need to lower the price so people might actually purchase the damn things. Making something is better than having a crap ton of inventory at prices the consumers aren't willing to pay.
I actually sat forward in my chair during the X benchmark, only to explode into uncontrollable laughter within moments. How you did the voiceover for that segment with a straight face is beyond my capacity to comprehend.
Great review, as always. Prices here in the EU are pretty different from the US MSRPs, tho. 1200€ for the 7900 XTX, 1350€ for the 4080, 1000€ for the 4070ti and 900 € for the 7900XT (tax included). Everything is horrible overpriced for sure, but the 7900XT looks a little bit better in this scenario.
Almost spit out my coffee with that first X benchmark. Well played GN, shout-out to both teams for putting in the work to deliver the day 1 content despite the travel and less staff on hand. As for the card itself not much to say for me AMD probably should have sold these cards at $600 and $800 if they really wanted to win gamers over. If NVIDIA adjusts pricing I’m sure they’ll get there eventually but I many are waiting to scoop up last generation cards unless the upcoming 7600 and 7700 models offer some great value.
Big facts, especially with 1080p still being so prominent even at high FPS the 3070 and 6800xt will do you well enough. My 3070 is helping me single PC stream and run 200fps on mw2 and still looks great in stuff like cyberpunk even if only like 80-90fps
I just got a 3070 for $300 to replace my 1070ti. Seems like getting 1 gen behind is the way to go with how greedy these prices have been, and with how fast PC parts depreciate, it's just not worth it for me.
AMD basically tries to sell you a defective 7900 xtx with a 10% discount. Think I'll pass on this one too. Thanks for the breakdown Steve, appreciate the time and effort put into this!
IM building a new PC right now so which damned card should I get? I was thinking about an XT or XTX the 4090 is way outa my price range. SHould I wait for a 4070? Or just get a 3080 or 3070? I wanted the xt or the xtx because of the insane amount of Vram they have compared to nvidias cards. I guess Vram isn't as important anymore as it used to be? I remember my first video card I installed it was a 3DFX Voodoo 3 with 32 megs of Vram lmao.
I miss traveling, my old job took me all over the place. Seeing you in Taipei makes wanna go someplace fun next year. Love your videos and awesome fact finding. Keep up the great work you and your team do, and cant wait for the next news videos from the tech world.
This is why you always hold companies to the highest of standards, unfortunately people say they will boycott GPUs but either are lying or weren't shopping in that price class, seeing how well the 4090 sold. Things will keep getting worse unless people realize they don't need to upgrade every generation.
people definietely are holding out on upgrading every generation. The new ryzen gen completely flopped and so did the 4080^ There is still a market for the new stuff but it's shrunk drastically since the cryptomining era and the gtx 10-series era where value was still a thing
That's the thing most of the people who are buying these products aren't in RUclips comment section complaining. Its mostly people who can't afford it and a few who was actually thinking about getting one that are always commenting
AMD really should have provided a X comparison chart when they launched their cards I can't believe they missed such a marketing opportunity. It would have fit in perfectly with their 8K gaming slides.
I wonder if AMD will release the RX 7700 XT as the 7900 X and the 7600 XT as just the plain 7900. Personally, I'm looking forward to their 4090 competitor; the RX 7900 XTXTX.
Came here for info on the new AMD cards, subbed for the comedic moments and pressed the like button x times. You absolutely nail the balance between raw info, sarcasm, serious testing and entertainment. True nerd stuff, love it. Being able to survive narrating charts like 3:41 without flinching is some x-tra skill.
I have to say I appreciate the X performance charts that are erroneously lacking from all other review sites. I'm in the process of getting together parts for the current most Xtreme PC and thanks to the benchmarx, the RX 7900xtx seems to be the frontrunner, Ill be adding it to the R9 7900X to take full advantage of the 7900 GPU-CPU hypersyncing Xtreme fusion. Though I am debating on holding off until the mid cycle refresh models drop with an inevitable 7900xXx model
Love your exclusive X testing suite, are you considering making it commercially available? Because I think many other people, besides me would interested in testing the Xs in our hardware.
I finished the teardown video then saw your comment that the benchmark video is up, THEN saw that you guys released THIS video. Thanks for feeding my tech addiction GN, amazing!
For me, the decision to go with the 7900 xt (non-second x) rather than the cheaper 6950xt or the more powerful 7900 xtx came down to the PSU in my build. 750w evga g2 supernova 80+ gold. It can handle a 300w card but anything higher than that and I'd be worried about spikes crashing the system, and I'm not about to add $150 to the price of the system (new PSU) for a last gen card, or spend even more on a 7900 xtx and then the PSU cost on top. To me this is currently the only compelling reason to go with the 7900xt over the alternatives. With the price of a new PSU factored in for any other card in this performance range, the overall price to performance takes a big hit.
@@zee-fr5kw I really would like to see the BOMs and R&D cost for these cards. There's no way these cards actually cost more to make than RDNA2 or Ampere. I understood the crazy prices during the COVID/mining double pincer move era, but this just seems like pure greed from both nVidia and AMD. They saw people buy cards because they had no choice and now they think they can get away with this. It's a crying shame intel hasn't come in with a capable product yet, especially in the "4060"/"7600XT" performance tier for like $200 or $250 tops. People would fall head over heels for something like that. The producta are great, but these inflated prices are exciting for no one. Paying 1200€ for a card that should be 900€ tops (launch price if the 3080 10GB in Europe, for example) feels like crap.
@@zee-fr5kw I’m not convinced those margins would be so low but I’m willing to change my mind if you have this BOM costs. Chiplets are supposed to reduce costs, not raise them.
Nah, 7900 xtx should've been called a 6800 xt since it doesn't compete with 4090, like in 5000 series 5700 xt being top end AMD and 650$. 7900 xt is a 6800, 550.
I've got a vega 64 rog strix in my secondary pc, undervolted and overclocked by enough to see a 25% framerate increase, actually beats my rog strix 1080ti OC model in a lot of games, especially 1% lows.
3:45 I love how you guys broke this down to really highlight the technological advancements in a language we can understand (barely). This has greatly influenced my purchase decision.
Pretty crazy to see the improvements over the 5700xt, they have come a long way in a pretty shot time. I just upgraded to a 5700xt and so far it’s more than enough for me. only problem is not enough X
Whenever I look at those charts all I see is that I currently am playing AAA games at 1440P and 60FPS. And that raytracing for the same games still is an illusion unless we upscale. In which case we are running at 1080P. DLSS feels like an elaborate marketing scam.
@@bjorn-falkoandreas9472 guess the scam is so elaborate that AMD is attempting to copy ray tracing and DLSS not to mention how tons of people appreciate and use upscaleers..not to mention consoles relying heavily on upscaleong and trying their best to use ray tracing
Not really a short time, it's been 3+ years now. And double the price. So it offers far less value, it is not inflation but greed and destruction of PC world
This is the 3rd video you've released today, y'all are amazing at keeping the content coming, especially considering you are on the other side of the earth.
Hey Gamers Nexus, have you considered including power consumption at different use cases (especially idle is interesting for me) like Igor's Lab does - maybe I just missed that? Having multiple sources for that would be a huge benefit for me (also for future gpus). The 7900XT and 7900XTX seem to be especially bad at idling.
@@IIHawkGamingII this confirms Igor's finding for around 40W (ruclips.net/video/s8oGYtASJnY/видео.html ). You can't really call that energy efficient, when your gpu idles the most time.
Steve and the rest of the crew thank you for all your hard work! I love all your content and how serious you guys are. Easily my number one pc youtube channel bar none.
Man I love your reviews. Doesn't matter where they are, they are always straight to the point, super informative and lately laced with humour. Well done. I like how XTX is placed. XT hopefully sees a price drop in relation to 4080's price drop, or 4070 launch when it comes. I'm just hoping for some okay pricing to reach NZ. that exchange rate still "hits different"
I remember when the top graphics cards used to cost around $400-500. Now they're two to three times the price! I'm going to wait a year or two to see what they cook up and hopefully prices will come down or there will at least be decent cheaper variants. In the mean time my AMD Vega 56 is still holding up ok.
To save money just wait a while and buy last gen top tier, or buy used or both. AMD 6900xt was going for $600 brand new on Black Friday - that was a stomping deal
I remember when those same gpus could barely run new games at decent framerates for 1080p. Now we have gpus that are huge overkill for 1080p/1440p while the vast majority of gamers are still running at that resolution. These cards are expensive because people keep buying them, yet when 1080p and 1440p cards are released, they are often good deals.
Lol unfortunately I do believe Jensen saying GPU prices dropping are a thing of the past. Demand is too high on top of their planned artificial scarcity
7900xt is looking good for me. Coming from a 2080FE, I kinda refuse to pay for the 80 series, and the 2.5x vram means I’ll have some overhead for long term use. Thanks for the review.
In my opinion, the 7900 XT is just overpriced by $50 compared to the performance of the XTX. Otherwise, it is a great card with nothing better at its price point or less. Those who say the XT is crap don’t know what they’re talking about.
I think hardware unboxed did a shit job, and the fact they refuse to do AIB cards shows they just dont care. and go figure AIB's specifically XFX/SAPPHIRE/Powercolor seem to have found a way around power delivery issues the reference cards are having with it being inconsistent. i think im pulling the trigger on a xfx merc 7900xt $979. Im upgrading from a Radeon VII i have everything else upgraded. went from ryzen 5 1600x to Ryzen 9 5900x 16g 3600mhz Cas14.
1k GPU is the least of your worries right now. There is not a single game that justifies an expensive GPU purchase. Houses and rent could use a discount though. It's too expensive everywhere.
The X count graph is the most important! Thanks for the deep Insight! Is there a quality difference between AMD X and Nvidia X? I guess because arc doesn't have enough X it performs so bad?
Nice info but it's worth taking local prices in to account before pulling the trigger. Here a 6950 XT is usually between £900 and £1000 with the 7900 XT listed for pre-order at around £1000 so it's definitely worth getting the newer card over the previous gen as you just don't have that saving.
Meanwhile in my country right now the cheapest 7900xt costs 1050€ while the cheapest xtx costs 1450€, making the xt the one to buy hands down. The 4080 costs around 1550€ making the 7900xt an even better deal.
3:42 just know that I appreciate this part, it's so helpful for me in deciding what to get, considering how I like X's so much that I'd be willing to dish out 2k$ for the most X. (srsly, this got me rofling)
You can tell all the money we send GN with our merch purchase went to good use. I can’t imagine how expensive it was to get equipment to make the X chart
It’s amazing to see the progress in the computer industry. It used to be about the number of Cs in Thicc and now it is about the number of Xs. What will be next ZZZ?
Murder death killed! Heck even at 699 and 799 lol but we need this insanity to stop gpus shouldn't cost more than 699 top of the line whatever that is.
economic inflation!!!! global shortages!!!! world events!!!! sorry, but desktop computer hardware isn’t the sole focus of the world right now. maybe next year… 😒😒
I think they are going to keep the 4000 series priced high until 3000 sells out, then they'll drop it, although that might be happening soon as those cards are becoming far less common in stores from what i've seen here in canada so far
Actually both AMD and Nvidia cut back on production and this was even before Nvidia talked about it because they had cut the number of wafers from TSMC about 6 months ago. Both companies projected lower sales for 2023. It's also why there are very few GPUs from AMD right now from this new gen and it won't change until next year.
Hey Steve, I noticed increasing the Fan Speed doesn't improve the GCD Temp to much for me. Could you check the mounting pressure of these reference cards. I'm wondering if the GCD sit's slightly lower than the MCDs causing worse contact for the GCD??
I checked the current prices for both cards. It may not be too much of an upsell. You can find an XT for as low as $879, while XTXs start at $1150 with Sapphire. That's a $271 price difference, and we still need to factor in sales tax, pushing prices up by another $100. 7900 XTX performs similarly to or is better than 4080 and is about $100-200 cheaper than most 4080s. The existence of the 7900 XT is obliterating any possible success for the 4070 TI since 7900 XT is so much better, and the most affordable 4070 TI model now is $819. It's better to get a 7900 XT for $879, which is better than a 4070 TI and is not far behind a 7900 XTX or 4080 for people who don't want to spend more than $1000 on a video card. I think the prices will drop even further in the autumn and may return to pre-COVID pricing for the latest generation GPUs.
I had the same question. AMD is well known for releasing products with beta/sub-grade drivers. I was hoping the XTX numbers would be just a bit better.
Can’t speak for GN I don’t think we’d see more than a 5-10% increase from driver improvements unless they are seriously have baked from AMD. Prices will come down when both AMD and NVIDIA actually feel pressure to move more cards and walk back their insane pricing. Till then we are stuck with the prices we have now.
Of course it will. It happens with every new product. Same goes for Nvidia as well. I am still seeing gains on my 1080 with the new drivers being pushed out.
the 900$ 7900xt is pretty much validating the price nvidia wanted for the 4080 12gb and their likely going to want for the 4070ti... its almost amd and nvidia get together to decide how to price their cards...
Whats crazy is in my country (Hungary) the prices of the 4070 Ti and the RX 7900 XT are switched. The 4070 Ti is around 960$ and the RX 7900 XT is around 860$, both really expensive due to high taxes. The 7900 XTX is 1200$.
Good afternoon Steve. Did you happen to do any transient power assessment on the 7900 XT? I know the card doesn't make sense for most, but I was hoping to use it in my ITX build to max that system out (upgrading from a 1080 TI FTW3) on 3d performance without significant changes or other upgrades. I modified the case to accommodate and was getting PSU panic shutdowns. Thermals were fine. I guess I was really threading the needle with the 1080Ti on that 650W PSU with a 65 watt CPU... For now I went out and got a tower case from the local best buy and threw an 850watt corsair in there and it's running well. Basically trying to figure out if I can go with a 750W SFX PSU and move it all back.
Just bought me 7900xt for $779. So far I don’t regret it at all. Think the card should be closer to $700 but he’ll I have 390ti equivalent and can do ray tracing at 1440p
I bought a 7900 xt cause no other graphics card would fit my case. I want a compact 4k build. The only nvidia card that would work is a 4070 but it's a throw off to have a card deliberately limit itself to be a great 1440p contender but a mediocre 4k. Nevertheless going from a vega 64 to a 7900 xt
4X, finally one in my size! /s Nice to see my XFX RX6600 at the top of the power consumption ranking. I knew it was a very efficient card. I would love a 7900XT but my card was 1/5 the price even if it's also 1/5 the performance. It runs the games I play maxing out my 144hz monitor so it's Plenty Good™
@@hodb3906 Oh no. Shirt size. I'm American, so... This is a true thing, though. Clothes come in small, medium, large, extra large and then 2 X 3X 4X etc and the joke is "small, medium, large, and American sizes" or something like that.
The picture atm becomes wildly different when basing your price to performance on the European marked. As an example, the absolute cheapest 6950xt I can find here is 888 euros. There are no pricing here on the 7900xt/xtx yet.... But I imagine its gonna be a wild ride, and not in a good way :s
I would like to see another temp benchmark with you adding thermal pads to the back of the memory chips to see if the backplate would help with memory temps on the AMD cards.
The only reason I even got the XT was because I couldn't find an XTX and I was able to return my 3080 for full price which I spent $300 more on. So the way I see it im still paying 300 bucks less for a faster card.
I've been on a 1080ti for 6 years now, and just ordered a 7900 XT for $880. My first AMD card ever. First non-nVidia card since the ATI HD4850. Looking forward to it.
@@panterxbeats So far, so good. Plays all my games at max detail (minus Ray Tracing) at 3440x1440 so far. Just got a 3840x1600 Ultrawide last week, and the couple games I've tried so far have also been fine. All in all, quite pleased with the purchase so far.
Yep. Totally agree. Even though I'm looking at trying to snag a 7900XTX tomorrow, all of the GPU prices still need to come back to earth. Feel the 7900XT is around a 4070ti class card, and should be around $499-$599. With the 7900XTX at $699, while the 4080 at $799-$899, and the 4090 can just stay where it is. The only way it will happen is if we are all patient, and let them know how we feel with our wallets. They know how hard it is to resist new shiny things. Especially when you just got a 42" 4K 144hz monitor for yourself for your birthday, and your 1070Ti isn't really up to the task, so you scaled resolution back to 1440p. lol
Honestly, it's the same issue that we have with nvidia... it is not the 7900xtx, because it's a lot faster than the 6900xt, and despite the inflation still cost the same. The problem is the 7900xt which should be called 7800xt, that one should cost 700 and everyone should be ok with that... and the 4080 for $900 would not be bad at all...
Still on a 1070. Still plays all games fine. I’ll wait till the 6800XT is like $300 on the used market and upgrade then but by then I won’t be playing games like I used to anyways. More to life than more frames and sparkles on a video game.
The tragedy is that Nvidia priced their GPUs so high that people start considering that the 7900 XTX is fairly priced at $1000. The msrp pricing for both the AMD 7900 XTX and the Nvidia RTX 4080 should not exceed $699. It is so worrying that consumers and reviewers don't call this out and vote with their wallet to completely ruin the launch of those cards to teach these companies a lesson about bad pricing. Also what's even more worrying is that AMD went with a chiplet design to save money and still decided to price the 7900 XTX at $1000. I don't like the GPU market share that Nvidia has, and I do root for competitors such as AMD or Intel to catch up market share-wise and technology-wise, but AMD being the underdog should make it even more clear that they should have priced their GPUs correctly.
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Really great job on these reviews
Theyve been taking cues from nvidia
Props to you to devoting so much time to talking about your x's. But maybe it's time to move on. I know you still love them, but they don't love you. Otherwise, they'd give you so much more. Sadly, your x's don't offer much of significance beyond themselves.
lol, 5 X BEST
Yeah but Steve you gotta realize, the real value is always in the 9's and 7's, which, while often overlooked, is as we all know where the real performance lies. So they're still selling you those not only 7 tiers, but even throwing in a 9 on top with TWO x's in one case.
A bargain, if you ask me. Intel only sells one 7 these days, and no x's, for many hundreds of dollars.
The number of Xs benchmark is hilarious, truly a gamer's nexus moment.
Absolutely loved it! Wonderful!
Definitely took me by surprise and got a hearty laugh out of me.
Can't wait for XFX's Tripple-X Edition of the XTX.
Obviously more Xs = more better 😂
The price per X for the 4090 is egregious by Nvidia. $1600 for just a single X!
I will be sad if XFX doesn't commit to the bit with the XFX RX 7900 XTX XXX Edition. They did it for the RX580.
THIXXX
XFX RX 7900 XTX XXX THIXXX3
Yes there really was a xxx version of the XFX RX580. A 7900XTX version of this would give it 8 X's, which would be 700% more X than an RTX 4090.
Love to see the Nvidia fan boys after XFX drops this 8X monster.
Bring back CrossFireX and put 4 XFX RX 7900 XTX XXX CrossFireX cards in your system for a total of 36 Xs. NVIDIA may as well declare bankruptcy right now.
XFX Presents the new limited time GPU:
The XFX RX 7900 XTX EXXEXXIVE XXX'S EDITION!
We've replaced all C's and S's with X's, for extra excessiveness. Because we care.
This is why I always wait for the Gamers Nexus review before buying anything. I had completely ignored the XFX 7900 XTX but seeing the 66% uplift in X's compared to the the stock Radeon 7900 XTX I am now going to get one.
Well did you? I just missed out
ROFL
@@CheeseTheFish Unfortunately my comment was satire. As I paid an astronomical amount for my current RX 6900XT Gaming Z Trio during the dark times that shall not be named and as I game at 1440p I am actually not going to be upgrading for another generation or so. :D
you wont get one anytime soon at MSRP if you didnt get it when you had the chance lol
@@LC-pp4bb I don't know, miners are all trying to sell off the cards they already have and scalpers all got burnt at the end of the GPU shortages. I can see these coming back into stock and being relatively available in the next few weeks.
Wonderful to see someone adding the X's graph! It's a vital performance, "X per Price" ratio that more reviewers need to include.
Will additional Xs be made available for retrofit later?
I feel like 7900 XT and XTX should be revisitied - especially after the new drivers and price drops. 6950xt is way cheaper as well, so those 3 cards are in a interesting battle between eachother that I would love to see.
@@traditional_trekkie was actively trying to purchase a PowerColor reference 7900 xt open box from Amazon Warehouse for $660 but it was the last one and sold out as I tried buying :( so I bought the same model new for $750 which is not a bad price, definitely could’ve waited for it to be $700 or less tho
@@traditional_trekkie I was able to get an open box 7900xt for $630 at Micro Center and it's been great - if you can get a deal like that, would highly recommend
@@FrackaLacka got my asrock 7900xt for 820 euro with starfield bundle. Couldn't wait anymore to be honest..
The pricing of X-es is outrageous. It is the same story we could see when Xbox Series X came out. It is flat-out brutal!
I was laughing at that! 😆
Like back in the day with everyone labeling things XP.
Lol a bot stole your comment
The pricing for the XTX actually makes sense considering the power it has and being able to perform at the same level of not better than a card that is more expensive.. The 7900 XT should've just been a 7800XT.
@Claudio Salazar I thought of the name scheme:
X
Box
One
X
Works for Apple too, when they put "X" on something, it usually means Xpensive.
The X benchmark was the highlight of the video. Truly groundbreaking work guys.
Spat out coffee as the "almost as many Xes as Asutek has exes" part
"X marks the spot"
The X test @ 3:31 is truly ground breaking, others releasing benchmarks should be taking notes as it’s more, if not just as important as staring at an fps counter.
So sad, intel arc A770 didn't even make it to the graph with it's 0 X(s)
*groundbreaking
Makes no sense when you separate the two words. Ouch.
The worst part is that the benchmark is actually important for people despite claiming otherwise. Why do you think people buy inferior RGB products instead of better non-RGB products? Monkey brain is real.
@@dildojizzbaggins6969 syntactically incorrect, but you know exactly what it meant in the context. I could change it for you if it helps you understand. But by concatenating the two words, would it really change the semantics of the whole comment?
I'm glad you mentioned the X benchmark as the card also performs better using an X CPU like the 5600X in an X570 Mobo. It's minor in the grand scheme of things, but those extra X's give you an edge.
I am glad that you took a whole minute worth of review explaining the "X's". Your in-depth reviews are amazing.
I just have to say that I greatly appreciate you benchmarking the number of X's. I know this bit has been said but the street your shooting on looks nice have been a great change of pace for these two reviews.
It's a very unique benchmark! No one else did it!
@@GamersNexus Naming suggestion.
0. X-Less
1. Un-X
2. Squared-X
3. Cube-X
To make it even more clear. (also it enables the letter Q (sort of 2ce), which makes the user aware of the next letter that will supercede X in the Future)
honestly I never liked the 7900xtx, but especially after comparing the xfx7900xtx to the rtx 4090, I know which card was clearly the best I mean 1 card has 4X es and the other only 1 X.
@@XX-_-XX420 lmao that's a legit brand
Hope you guys are having a blast on your trip GN, thanks to Patrick for holding down the fort for the reviews!
But which Patrick!? Or is Patrick already plural?
@@GamersNexus hi
@@GamersNexus Patrike is plural Patrick
@@GamersNexus Thanks, Steve.
@@GamersNexus I think the plural is Patrices, a bit like appendix goes to appendices
XFX RX 7900 XTX just became the most sought after GPU.
people love buying memes, it's actually a great marketing stunt thanks to GN
Honestly, if XFX marketing is clued in, they'll both use this review in their marketing and send GN a very public 1337.69 USD check in appreciation.
@@luckyo11 There aren't any Xs in that check though. Pointless, especially in this economy.
X GON GIVE IT TO YA
Where does 1337.89 come from?
I really appreciate you guys adding the data for the number of Xs. Other outlets really neglect that and I think it's important for the consumer.
Really loved the X-chart comparison. Took me completely by surprise. Love that you can inject humor into yet another benchmark year after year. Hats off to you.
This should have been called the 7800XT and cost a lot less!
I think a lower case "X" would have worked better. 7900xT. Or add more "X" to the 7900XTX. 7X9X0X0XTXXX(!!!!X!!)X
Yep, adding an extra X just reminds me of XBox versioning: stupid.
I agree, the 7900xtx should be the 7900XT for $999 and the 7900xt should be the 7800xt for $799.
Why they're so obsessed with "x" word on all their products?
well this is indeed 7900 xt but they probably will lower the price to match or lower than 3070 / ti to make nvidia bad
Getting a 6900XT for $500 was my best financial decision this year.
Great price!
ooofff where? I got my 6750 for 520 back in may xD
Picked up an MSI trio 6950 xt for 749 gbp+ 2 games as a Christmas deal :D
Used RTX 3070 for U$300 in my case, this is a really terrible gen of GPUs which we should all forget about and leave them gathering dust in the shelves so maybe next gen Nvidia and AMD will wake up and realize mining is over and astronomical GPU prices are no longer acceptable.
For the $300 you get chopped things like 3050 or 6400, forget about budget gaming on the new graphics card
The price on the XT is gonna have to come down considerably to make it a decent option.
Mate, both of them. Imagine the xtx at $899 and the xt at $699. That would be the right price point for them. The 6000 series have to go below $500 and we're good to go. Nvidia should also pull their heads out of their asses, and put their cards on the correct price points.
@@flegmaniac3462 if I were CEO of Nvidia, I’d drop the 4080 price down to $899 and completely ruin AMD’s entire product cycle.
@@kylestewart4444 They wouldn't win anything by doing that. They wouldn't maximize profits this way, also amd's market share is too insignificant to be even bothered with such strategies.
@@kylestewart4444 Then they'd cut their own profits massively as they know people will buy Nvidia regardless, it'd undercut their unsold 3xxx stock to boot, the shareholders would be banging on Jensen's door
p.s. looks at Steve standing outside in the rain in a T-shirt, looks outside here at temps a fraction above freezing and snow and ice, I want your job Steve.
@@flegmaniac3462 You can only sell your cards at the price they're selling them at to "maximize profits" if people are actually buying them at those prices.
The GPU shortage/ insanity of the recent past is currently over. Meaning not every damn card instantly sells out no matter what the price is.
These cards are in stock everywhere and are more or less just sitting on the shelves.
Sure Nvidia and AMD both want nothing more than to maximize profits. That's what a publicly traded company's job is. But when your product isn't selling because the market segment / consumers decide that the price is ridiculous. Sooner or later in order to "maximize profits" you do need to lower the price so people might actually purchase the damn things. Making something is better than having a crap ton of inventory at prices the consumers aren't willing to pay.
I actually sat forward in my chair during the X benchmark, only to explode into uncontrollable laughter within moments. How you did the voiceover for that segment with a straight face is beyond my capacity to comprehend.
Great review, as always. Prices here in the EU are pretty different from the US MSRPs, tho. 1200€ for the 7900 XTX, 1350€ for the 4080, 1000€ for the 4070ti and 900 € for the 7900XT (tax included). Everything is horrible overpriced for sure, but the 7900XT looks a little bit better in this scenario.
Finally an informative and well spoken EXclusive X count benchmark test
The 'Number of X's' benchmark was super informative. I never realized that can be a parameter too.
Almost spit out my coffee with that first X benchmark. Well played GN, shout-out to both teams for putting in the work to deliver the day 1 content despite the travel and less staff on hand.
As for the card itself not much to say for me AMD probably should have sold these cards at $600 and $800 if they really wanted to win gamers over.
If NVIDIA adjusts pricing I’m sure they’ll get there eventually but I many are waiting to scoop up last generation cards unless the upcoming 7600 and 7700 models offer some great value.
cringe
@@AdiiS what are you? 12 with that kind of reply?
Big facts, especially with 1080p still being so prominent even at high FPS the 3070 and 6800xt will do you well enough. My 3070 is helping me single PC stream and run 200fps on mw2 and still looks great in stuff like cyberpunk even if only like 80-90fps
@@plysmeister cringex2
I just got a 3070 for $300 to replace my 1070ti. Seems like getting 1 gen behind is the way to go with how greedy these prices have been, and with how fast PC parts depreciate, it's just not worth it for me.
AMD basically tries to sell you a defective 7900 xtx with a 10% discount. Think I'll pass on this one too. Thanks for the breakdown Steve, appreciate the time and effort put into this!
Don't forget that it has fewer Xs as well. A travesty
IM building a new PC right now so which damned card should I get? I was thinking about an XT or XTX the 4090 is way outa my price range. SHould I wait for a 4070? Or just get a 3080 or 3070? I wanted the xt or the xtx because of the insane amount of Vram they have compared to nvidias cards. I guess Vram isn't as important anymore as it used to be? I remember my first video card I installed it was a 3DFX Voodoo 3 with 32 megs of Vram lmao.
Most graphics cards are "defective". So are CPUs, on your logic. Binning has been a thing for decades.
Yes, but when you get a 10% discount and a 15% drop in performance, you are just getting the short end of the stick.
I miss traveling, my old job took me all over the place. Seeing you in Taipei makes wanna go someplace fun next year. Love your videos and awesome fact finding. Keep up the great work you and your team do, and cant wait for the next news videos from the tech world.
This is why you always hold companies to the highest of standards, unfortunately people say they will boycott GPUs but either are lying or weren't shopping in that price class, seeing how well the 4090 sold. Things will keep getting worse unless people realize they don't need to upgrade every generation.
Boycotts don't really work against most companies. Maybe for a small business but AMD is too big
the 4090 is actually the least shit of all the next gen gpus, so it's not surprising that they sell fairly well
people definietely are holding out on upgrading every generation. The new ryzen gen completely flopped and so did the 4080^ There is still a market for the new stuff but it's shrunk drastically since the cryptomining era and the gtx 10-series era where value was still a thing
That's the thing most of the people who are buying these products aren't in RUclips comment section complaining. Its mostly people who can't afford it and a few who was actually thinking about getting one that are always commenting
The 4090 is the only great GPU this generation so far. Boycotts are dumb and don’t work at all.
AMD really should have provided a X comparison chart when they launched their cards I can't believe they missed such a marketing opportunity. It would have fit in perfectly with their 8K gaming slides.
And have been more relevant.
@@iankemp2627 for real lol 8K gaming isn't something you can do yet, not at a playable fps atleast
Even the description is so beautifully written and explains everything you need to know. Such an amazing channel.
I wonder if AMD will release the RX 7700 XT as the 7900 X and the 7600 XT as just the plain 7900. Personally, I'm looking forward to their 4090 competitor; the RX 7900 XTXTX.
Came here for info on the new AMD cards, subbed for the comedic moments and pressed the like button x times.
You absolutely nail the balance between raw info, sarcasm, serious testing and entertainment. True nerd stuff, love it.
Being able to survive narrating charts like 3:41 without flinching is some x-tra skill.
I have to say I appreciate the X performance charts that are erroneously lacking from all other review sites. I'm in the process of getting together parts for the current most Xtreme PC and thanks to the benchmarx, the RX 7900xtx seems to be the frontrunner, Ill be adding it to the R9 7900X to take full advantage of the 7900 GPU-CPU hypersyncing Xtreme fusion.
Though I am debating on holding off until the mid cycle refresh models drop with an inevitable 7900xXx model
dont forget to pair it with the 7950x
@@fist003 That would neglect the benefit of the numerical hypersync fusion combo. And wont show a real tangible X factor uplift.
I dont want to be mean but the most Xtreme PC would be with an RTX 4090
@@shleft9938 I don't think, you got the joke with X - treme. 👀
@@shigarumo121 Seems like
Love your exclusive X testing suite, are you considering making it commercially available? Because I think many other people, besides me would interested in testing the Xs in our hardware.
I finished the teardown video then saw your comment that the benchmark video is up, THEN saw that you guys released THIS video. Thanks for feeding my tech addiction GN, amazing!
Thanks for watching!
I laughed way too hard at the X's comparison bit. Good work, always love the content.
For me, the decision to go with the 7900 xt (non-second x) rather than the cheaper 6950xt or the more powerful 7900 xtx came down to the PSU in my build.
750w evga g2 supernova 80+ gold.
It can handle a 300w card but anything higher than that and I'd be worried about spikes crashing the system, and I'm not about to add $150 to the price of the system (new PSU) for a last gen card, or spend even more on a 7900 xtx and then the PSU cost on top.
To me this is currently the only compelling reason to go with the 7900xt over the alternatives. With the price of a new PSU factored in for any other card in this performance range, the overall price to performance takes a big hit.
After seeing a couple of vids I’m convinced that the prices should have been:
7900XTX: 849
7900XT: 699
@@zee-fr5kw I really would like to see the BOMs and R&D cost for these cards. There's no way these cards actually cost more to make than RDNA2 or Ampere.
I understood the crazy prices during the COVID/mining double pincer move era, but this just seems like pure greed from both nVidia and AMD. They saw people buy cards because they had no choice and now they think they can get away with this.
It's a crying shame intel hasn't come in with a capable product yet, especially in the "4060"/"7600XT" performance tier for like $200 or $250 tops. People would fall head over heels for something like that. The producta are great, but these inflated prices are exciting for no one. Paying 1200€ for a card that should be 900€ tops (launch price if the 3080 10GB in Europe, for example) feels like crap.
@@zee-fr5kw I’m not convinced those margins would be so low but I’m willing to change my mind if you have this BOM costs. Chiplets are supposed to reduce costs, not raise them.
Nah, 7900 xtx should've been called a 6800 xt since it doesn't compete with 4090, like in 5000 series 5700 xt being top end AMD and 650$. 7900 xt is a 6800, 550.
@@Rspsand07 💯
And they should've been named 7900 XT and 7800 XT respectively.
The "Honestly, the review is kind of over before it even started X" line made me literally laugh out loud. Thanks, Steve!
Thank you for bringing the Vega64 back to the charts. Still rocking mine :)
Lol sadly I have mine sitting in a box. Currently running 5700xt. I had a 56 but gave it to my friend.
Sill running my Vega64, custom water loop. Holding up well for my needs for now. :)
Vegang
@@Daidalos69Vegan gang? I'm down for that!
I've got a vega 64 rog strix in my secondary pc, undervolted and overclocked by enough to see a 25% framerate increase, actually beats my rog strix 1080ti OC model in a lot of games, especially 1% lows.
3:45 I love how you guys broke this down to really highlight the technological advancements in a language we can understand (barely). This has greatly influenced my purchase decision.
Looking forward to more outdoor shoots in the future! eXcellent review as always!
Pretty crazy to see the improvements over the 5700xt, they have come a long way in a pretty shot time. I just upgraded to a 5700xt and so far it’s more than enough for me. only problem is not enough X
Whenever I look at those charts all I see is that I currently am playing AAA games at 1440P and 60FPS. And that raytracing for the same games still is an illusion unless we upscale. In which case we are running at 1080P. DLSS feels like an elaborate marketing scam.
@@bjorn-falkoandreas9472 guess the scam is so elaborate that AMD is attempting to copy ray tracing and DLSS not to mention how tons of people appreciate and use upscaleers..not to mention consoles relying heavily on upscaleong and trying their best to use ray tracing
@@bjorn-falkoandreas9472 FSR 2.0 is a godsend for 1440p@120hz on my rx580 better than 1080p upscaling.
@@woobilicious. FSR works on low-end systems. It is a godsend on my Steam Deck. DLSS however only works on high-end systems.
Not really a short time, it's been 3+ years now. And double the price. So it offers far less value, it is not inflation but greed and destruction of PC world
This is the 3rd video you've released today, y'all are amazing at keeping the content coming, especially considering you are on the other side of the earth.
I dearly hope Intel comes in swinging in the GPU market within the next few years.
@R L let's give them 100 managers more!
_"The saviour we need but didnt deserve"_
lol
If Intel was smart they would bundle their GPUs and CPUs at a discount
i mean, they do have cards out now, but... they're far worse price/perf than their direct Nvid/AMD competition. that's not so great for hopes.
I’d love to see them become a real competitor in the gpu segment and push prices back down, but they are probably 3-4 years away from that.
7 months later the 7900xt is 750USD and the 4080 is...well it exists.
Hey Gamers Nexus, have you considered including power consumption at different use cases (especially idle is interesting for me) like Igor's Lab does - maybe I just missed that? Having multiple sources for that would be a huge benefit for me (also for future gpus). The 7900XT and 7900XTX seem to be especially bad at idling.
I think linus included that. They found up to 140w idle or down to 40w depending on the monitor that was plugged in. For some reason.
@@IIHawkGamingII this confirms Igor's finding for around 40W (ruclips.net/video/s8oGYtASJnY/видео.html ). You can't really call that energy efficient, when your gpu idles the most time.
Steve and the rest of the crew thank you for all your hard work! I love all your content and how serious you guys are. Easily my number one pc youtube channel bar none.
Man I love your reviews. Doesn't matter where they are, they are always straight to the point, super informative and lately laced with humour. Well done.
I like how XTX is placed. XT hopefully sees a price drop in relation to 4080's price drop, or 4070 launch when it comes. I'm just hoping for some okay pricing to reach NZ. that exchange rate still "hits different"
I remember when the top graphics cards used to cost around $400-500. Now they're two to three times the price! I'm going to wait a year or two to see what they cook up and hopefully prices will come down or there will at least be decent cheaper variants. In the mean time my AMD Vega 56 is still holding up ok.
To save money just wait a while and buy last gen top tier, or buy used or both.
AMD 6900xt was going for $600 brand new on Black Friday - that was a stomping deal
I remember when those same gpus could barely run new games at decent framerates for 1080p. Now we have gpus that are huge overkill for 1080p/1440p while the vast majority of gamers are still running at that resolution. These cards are expensive because people keep buying them, yet when 1080p and 1440p cards are released, they are often good deals.
Lol unfortunately I do believe Jensen saying GPU prices dropping are a thing of the past. Demand is too high on top of their planned artificial scarcity
I just got it the pc field 3 years ago the history there is incredible but these prices now are ridiculous 😢
Yep, back when I thought the 980ti price was getting out of hand @ $650
7900xt is looking good for me. Coming from a 2080FE, I kinda refuse to pay for the 80 series, and the 2.5x vram means I’ll have some overhead for long term use.
Thanks for the review.
In my opinion, the 7900 XT is just overpriced by $50 compared to the performance of the XTX. Otherwise, it is a great card with nothing better at its price point or less. Those who say the XT is crap don’t know what they’re talking about.
I think hardware unboxed did a shit job, and the fact they refuse to do AIB cards shows they just dont care. and go figure AIB's specifically XFX/SAPPHIRE/Powercolor seem to have found a way around power delivery issues the reference cards are having with it being inconsistent. i think im pulling the trigger on a xfx merc 7900xt $979. Im upgrading from a Radeon VII i have everything else upgraded. went from ryzen 5 1600x to Ryzen 9 5900x 16g 3600mhz Cas14.
Thank you for shining more light into the X benchmarks
i just wanna go back....
to a time where houses werent 500k
graphic cards arent 1k
cheap economy cars arent 22k+
PLZ TAKE ME BACK
It'll only get worse.
1k GPU is the least of your worries right now. There is not a single game that justifies an expensive GPU purchase.
Houses and rent could use a discount though. It's too expensive everywhere.
The X count graph is the most important! Thanks for the deep Insight!
Is there a quality difference between AMD X and Nvidia X? I guess because arc doesn't have enough X it performs so bad?
waiting on the arc-X cards
Yes, you nailed it. No one ever talks about Intel's biggest mistake: They didn't name it Arx
Nice info but it's worth taking local prices in to account before pulling the trigger. Here a 6950 XT is usually between £900 and £1000 with the 7900 XT listed for pre-order at around £1000 so it's definitely worth getting the newer card over the previous gen as you just don't have that saving.
same case in Straya
Meanwhile in my country right now the cheapest 7900xt costs 1050€ while the cheapest xtx costs 1450€, making the xt the one to buy hands down. The 4080 costs around 1550€ making the 7900xt an even better deal.
Thanks Steve for keeping counting of the X-es. Was having trouble deciding what to buy :)
3:42 just know that I appreciate this part, it's so helpful for me in deciding what to get, considering how I like X's so much that I'd be willing to dish out 2k$ for the most X.
(srsly, this got me rofling)
Absolutely love the final 'X' that you threw in at the end of the "X benchmark"
You can tell all the money we send GN with our merch purchase went to good use. I can’t imagine how expensive it was to get equipment to make the X chart
It’s amazing to see the progress in the computer industry. It used to be about the number of Cs in Thicc and now it is about the number of Xs. What will be next ZZZ?
These cards would have killed it at $599 & $799
Murder death killed! Heck even at 699 and 799 lol but we need this insanity to stop gpus shouldn't cost more than 699 top of the line whatever that is.
I agree. You can thank scalpers and the last two years of inflated prices for where we are at. The tariffs are coming next.
The 4090 would have killed at 1$. Dream on, buddy.
economic inflation!!!! global shortages!!!! world events!!!! sorry, but desktop computer hardware isn’t the sole focus of the world right now. maybe next year… 😒😒
I think they are going to keep the 4000 series priced high until 3000 sells out, then they'll drop it, although that might be happening soon as those cards are becoming far less common in stores from what i've seen here in canada so far
question is: how much will they drop? i dont see a 4080 for 699 including tax in 2023
Actually both AMD and Nvidia cut back on production and this was even before Nvidia talked about it because they had cut the number of wafers from TSMC about 6 months ago. Both companies projected lower sales for 2023. It's also why there are very few GPUs from AMD right now from this new gen and it won't change until next year.
I checked the major box retailers here in Australia - about 8% to 10% discount on the 4080 already...and needless to say, all SKU's in stock
They will probably keep the price on the original 4000 cards and release some 4000-super edition with a lower price.
Hey Steve, I noticed increasing the Fan Speed doesn't improve the GCD Temp to much for me. Could you check the mounting pressure of these reference cards. I'm wondering if the GCD sit's slightly lower than the MCDs causing worse contact for the GCD??
I checked the current prices for both cards. It may not be too much of an upsell. You can find an XT for as low as $879, while XTXs start at $1150 with Sapphire. That's a $271 price difference, and we still need to factor in sales tax, pushing prices up by another $100. 7900 XTX performs similarly to or is better than 4080 and is about $100-200 cheaper than most 4080s. The existence of the 7900 XT is obliterating any possible success for the 4070 TI since 7900 XT is so much better, and the most affordable 4070 TI model now is $819. It's better to get a 7900 XT for $879, which is better than a 4070 TI and is not far behind a 7900 XTX or 4080 for people who don't want to spend more than $1000 on a video card. I think the prices will drop even further in the autumn and may return to pre-COVID pricing for the latest generation GPUs.
Question for GN: Do you think driver maturity over time for this line of cards will help improve performance to where it justifies the pricetag(s)?
I had the same question. AMD is well known for releasing products with beta/sub-grade drivers. I was hoping the XTX numbers would be just a bit better.
Can’t speak for GN I don’t think we’d see more than a 5-10% increase from driver improvements unless they are seriously have baked from AMD.
Prices will come down when both AMD and NVIDIA actually feel pressure to move more cards and walk back their insane pricing.
Till then we are stuck with the prices we have now.
question for you, why do you sound like u are ok with them releasing half baked products but rage when non-amd companies do the same?
Of course it will. It happens with every new product. Same goes for Nvidia as well. I am still seeing gains on my 1080 with the new drivers being pushed out.
Love Steve just casually doing the review outside while it's raining with just his umbrella for shelter 😂
I liked the outdoor shot! 👍
So grateful for the x benchmarks, this was the deciding factor for me. Thanks Steve!
But how about the amount of "X" per seconds?
@@fajaradi1223 Great idea, this will need to be further discovered in future reviews.
Performance per X per watt is the new meta for GPU reveals.
I’m more unhappy with Nvidia jacking prices than AMD. Going Team Red for the next few years.
the 900$ 7900xt is pretty much validating the price nvidia wanted for the 4080 12gb and their likely going to want for the 4070ti... its almost amd and nvidia get together to decide how to price their cards...
It always felt that way since AMD brought ATI. Same stuff for same money. Or slightly cheaper, but not cheap enough to influence nvidia sales.
Because they do
I love the X benchmark, WAY TO GO GUY'S! Awesome and much appreciated. Love it!
Loved that X graph, loved it. Love all you guys do. Keep these companies honest.
12:05 You could really improve on the readability of this chart. Otherwise, great video, as always!
Whats crazy is in my country (Hungary) the prices of the 4070 Ti and the RX 7900 XT are switched.
The 4070 Ti is around 960$ and the RX 7900 XT is around 860$, both really expensive due to high taxes.
The 7900 XTX is 1200$.
Yep. Always depends on where you live. 7900xt seems like solid value in your area.
What do you think AMD should do to maintain their lead in the X segment? Does Gamers Nexus have intention to improve their own X business?
It's obvious they need to launch new product line with new naming, like Nvidia did with GTX -> RTX. Now RX -> XRX.
Liked instantly for the X benchmark's. A true one of a kind benchmark.Looiong forward to more industry leading breakthrough methodologies from GN!
I have an RTX3080 so I'm certainly skipping this generation but loving all the content.
No reason to upgrade after just one generation! Agreed!
New generation is just for people that need the best of the best, nothing more than just a luxury item, the 30 series is still really good
Good afternoon Steve. Did you happen to do any transient power assessment on the 7900 XT? I know the card doesn't make sense for most, but I was hoping to use it in my ITX build to max that system out (upgrading from a 1080 TI FTW3) on 3d performance without significant changes or other upgrades.
I modified the case to accommodate and was getting PSU panic shutdowns. Thermals were fine. I guess I was really threading the needle with the 1080Ti on that 650W PSU with a 65 watt CPU...
For now I went out and got a tower case from the local best buy and threw an 850watt corsair in there and it's running well. Basically trying to figure out if I can go with a 750W SFX PSU and move it all back.
Just bought me 7900xt for $779. So far I don’t regret it at all. Think the card should be closer to $700 but he’ll I have 390ti equivalent and can do ray tracing at 1440p
This should be $600 and XTX $700
But how will the poor multi billion dollar corporations be able to keep up its sky high margins and promises made to shareholders with such prices?
Based on what? Show us the math
@Gamers Nexus, what’s do you guys think if the 7900xt was $800 instead and the xtx is $1000, would the xt be more worth it?
4:00 I was missing that testing for decades 😭😭😭👍
you guys literally define (and have been pioneering) GPU benchmarking, great job GN team!!
I bought a 7900 xt cause no other graphics card would fit my case. I want a compact 4k build. The only nvidia card that would work is a 4070 but it's a throw off to have a card deliberately limit itself to be a great 1440p contender but a mediocre 4k. Nevertheless going from a vega 64 to a 7900 xt
4X, finally one in my size! /s Nice to see my XFX RX6600 at the top of the power consumption ranking. I knew it was a very efficient card. I would love a 7900XT but my card was 1/5 the price even if it's also 1/5 the performance. It runs the games I play maxing out my 144hz monitor so it's Plenty Good™
Let me guess, your condom size Mr. Chad?
@@hodb3906 Oh no. Shirt size. I'm American, so... This is a true thing, though. Clothes come in small, medium, large, extra large and then 2 X 3X 4X etc and the joke is "small, medium, large, and American sizes" or something like that.
The picture atm becomes wildly different when basing your price to performance on the European marked.
As an example, the absolute cheapest 6950xt I can find here is 888 euros.
There are no pricing here on the 7900xt/xtx yet.... But I imagine its gonna be a wild ride, and not in a good way :s
I would like to see another temp benchmark with you adding thermal pads to the back of the memory chips to see if the backplate would help with memory temps on the AMD cards.
The only reason I even got the XT was because I couldn't find an XTX and I was able to return my 3080 for full price which I spent $300 more on. So the way I see it im still paying 300 bucks less for a faster card.
7900xt has a lot more potential : it does 20 TFlops more, I think the benchmarks will eventually improve.
tested and confirmed?
@Ripcord157 so the xtx is more at its limit, while the xt have much more to give over stock?
@Ripcord157 so in your view(?) they are stronger then 4080 and possibly may be able to challenge 4090
I've been on a 1080ti for 6 years now, and just ordered a 7900 XT for $880. My first AMD card ever. First non-nVidia card since the ATI HD4850. Looking forward to it.
how's it been?
@@panterxbeats So far, so good. Plays all my games at max detail (minus Ray Tracing) at 3440x1440 so far. Just got a 3840x1600 Ultrawide last week, and the couple games I've tried so far have also been fine. All in all, quite pleased with the purchase so far.
Αhhhh more soothing relaxing reviews with rain sounds
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Thank you for covering the "X" because I wasn't sure. Thanks Steve. This is cutting edge.
Yep. Totally agree. Even though I'm looking at trying to snag a 7900XTX tomorrow, all of the GPU prices still need to come back to earth. Feel the 7900XT is around a 4070ti class card, and should be around $499-$599. With the 7900XTX at $699, while the 4080 at $799-$899, and the 4090 can just stay where it is. The only way it will happen is if we are all patient, and let them know how we feel with our wallets. They know how hard it is to resist new shiny things. Especially when you just got a 42" 4K 144hz monitor for yourself for your birthday, and your 1070Ti isn't really up to the task, so you scaled resolution back to 1440p. lol
And how are they going to come back when you support them by buying at those prices.
Your desire means shit if you still buy them at these prices. You vote with your wallet, not RUclips comments!
Honestly, it's the same issue that we have with nvidia... it is not the 7900xtx, because it's a lot faster than the 6900xt, and despite the inflation still cost the same. The problem is the 7900xt which should be called 7800xt, that one should cost 700 and everyone should be ok with that... and the 4080 for $900 would not be bad at all...
It would be cool if you guys ran the X-test on older cards, wondering how many Xs are in, say, a GTX 1660 Ti
Can't even get one in the UK and I've been looking since midnight. Thanks Steve!
Over clockers has 7900xt in stock
@@jamesnicol9810 those are aftermarket and pre order only from what I've seen so far
Managed to snag one for my wife's Christmas build.
Xtx's sold out in seconds and haven't been in stock for msrp since that I could find.
Probably the easiest generation to skip, the old cards are still holding strong enough
NEXT! 🤣🤣
I feel like I should but my 970 is getting up there in years
Still on a 1070. Still plays all games fine. I’ll wait till the 6800XT is like $300 on the used market and upgrade then but by then I won’t be playing games like I used to anyways. More to life than more frames and sparkles on a video game.
@RUclips User Nope.
@RUclips User You must ride the struggle bus. Move along.
The tragedy is that Nvidia priced their GPUs so high that people start considering that the 7900 XTX is fairly priced at $1000. The msrp pricing for both the AMD 7900 XTX and the Nvidia RTX 4080 should not exceed $699. It is so worrying that consumers and reviewers don't call this out and vote with their wallet to completely ruin the launch of those cards to teach these companies a lesson about bad pricing. Also what's even more worrying is that AMD went with a chiplet design to save money and still decided to price the 7900 XTX at $1000.
I don't like the GPU market share that Nvidia has, and I do root for competitors such as AMD or Intel to catch up market share-wise and technology-wise, but AMD being the underdog should make it even more clear that they should have priced their GPUs correctly.