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AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX Review & GPU Benchmarks: Gaming, Thermals, Power, & Noise

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  • Опубликовано: 14 авг 2024
  • Sponsor: Arctic Liquid Freezer II ARGB on Amazon geni.us/8BokJ
    This review and benchmark of the AMD RX 7900 XTX video card tests it vs. the NVIDIA RTX 4080, RTX 4090, RTX 3080, and last generation AMD RX 6950 XT and 6900 XT GPUs. Our review of the RX 7900 XT is coming up later, as is our tear-down of the RX 7900 XTX reference video card from AMD. Overall, the XTX is primarily interesting for its price positioning versus the RTX 4080. AMD was never going to beat the RTX 4090 with a $1000 card, and it doesn't. But it's also not anywhere close in price. The RTX 4080 at $1200 (at the time of filming) is the real fight for AMD's RX 7900 XTX. Our testing today included power transients, thermals, noise, and gaming benchmarks (both rasterization and ray tracing). The transients, voltage regulation, noise, and thermals need some work, but that's all on the AMD reference design -- it'll be up to partners to pull weight to fix those aspects.
    Watch our AMD RX 7900 XT review and benchmarks: • AMD's Greedy Upsell: R...
    Watch our AMD RDNA3 Architecture Deep-Dive: • AMD RDNA3 GPU Architec... (also covers specs of the RX 7900 XTX and RX 7900 XT)
    The release date for the AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX and XT is December 13, 2022. Reviews are going up a day prior.
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    TIMESTAMPS
    00:00 - AMD RX 7900 XTX GPU Review & Benchmarks
    01:49 - Positioning, Launch, & Testing
    03:30 - Power Consumption of RX 7900 XTX
    04:17 - SO MUCH COIL WHINE - Transient Testing
    06:03 - Pressure Testing
    07:19 - Flatness Testing
    07:40 - """8K""" Benchmarks
    09:05 - Total Warhammer 3 - 4K, 1440p, & 1080p 7900 XTX Benchmarks
    12:05 - Tomb Raider 7900 XTX vs. RTX 4080 (4K, 1440p)
    13:33 - FFXIV GPU Benchmarks 2022
    14:55 - F1 2022 7900 XTX vs. RX 6950 XT
    16:07 - Rainbow Six Siege Benchmarks
    17:50 - Strange Brigade Vulkan Benchmarks
    18:18 - Horizon Zero Dawn Benchmarks
    18:43 - Ray Tracing 7900 XTX - Cyberpunk 2077
    20:30 - Ray Tracing Tomb Raider
    21:12 - Ray Tracing Control Benchmarks
    22:18 - Thermal Benchmarks
    24:55 - Bad Fan Curve & Noise Problems
    25:33 - Frequency Testing
    26:00 - Conclusion Vs. the RTX 4080
    27:25 - Card Issues with Reference
    30:18 - Vs. the RTX 4090
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    Host, Writing, Video Editing: Steve Burke
    Testing: Patrick Lathan
    Power Testing: Patrick Stone
    Video Editing: Vitalii Makhnovets
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    Camera: Andrew Coleman

Комментарии • 3,8 тыс.

  • @GamersNexus
    @GamersNexus  Год назад +401

    Do you think NVIDIA will drop prices soon? Post below!
    Check out the tear down! ruclips.net/video/BMKK6z__tXM/видео.html
    Watch our AMD RX 7900 XT review and benchmarks: ruclips.net/video/e7DjJR3zpCw/видео.html
    Watch our AMD RDNA3 Architecture Deep-Dive: ruclips.net/video/9iEDpXyFLFU/видео.html (also covers specs of the RX 7900 XTX and RX 7900 XT)

    • @Khloya69
      @Khloya69 Год назад +75

      No, because AMD isn’t competitive.

    • @hereicomehereigo
      @hereicomehereigo Год назад +11

      They already kinda did for 4090, 2300 - 2400 euros in EU, and these days I'm seeing for 1999 (Zotac and PNY)

    • @crylune
      @crylune Год назад +57

      No, they're Nvidia, they never will drop prices.

    • @gibber1944
      @gibber1944 Год назад +17

      As a shareholder, I hope NVidia lowers prices quickly. When people buy cards, I'd guess they don't upgrade for 3 years at least. That's a ton of lost sales.

    • @HorstLichtersBart
      @HorstLichtersBart Год назад +8

      Not before 30xx cards are sold for good and even then, they don't have to. People still buy these cards and AMD shows every year, that it was a good idea to rather save some money and buy a Nvidia card, then buying AMD.

  • @Alms_House
    @Alms_House Год назад +3906

    Thanks, Steve.

    • @HnK_Alex
      @HnK_Alex Год назад +260

      Back to you, Steve.

    • @JamesChurchill3
      @JamesChurchill3 Год назад +45

      Thanks, Steve.
      Theve.

    • @SimohSays
      @SimohSays Год назад +29

      And the rest of the GN Crew!!! Always the best

    • @Bassjunkie_1
      @Bassjunkie_1 Год назад +8

      Oh Steve I do say!

    • @AwesomeBlackDude
      @AwesomeBlackDude Год назад +1

      Someone got to say it, Steve, somebody got to say this Steve, these dam graphic cards are too damm Scalpers High! The community needs to stop saying these cards going to be at MSRP, pls stop lying, nope, nope, nope. 😬

  • @Safari_Mike
    @Safari_Mike Год назад +1469

    Man that's a beautiful backdrop, great work as always!

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  Год назад +311

      Love filming here! Last time we filmed in that spot, people insisted it was a green screen!

    • @emmata98
      @emmata98 Год назад +47

      @@chrisj9961 and we can see it on a screen

    • @maxgern9186
      @maxgern9186 Год назад +1

      Wow

    • @CaveyMoth
      @CaveyMoth Год назад +26

      How did you guys CGI in the rain? Impressive.

    • @kieran9882
      @kieran9882 Год назад +38

      @@CaveyMoth Unreal Engine 7

  • @martininakilazatin7390
    @martininakilazatin7390 Год назад +854

    Thanks Steve for actually bothering to check 8K with the properly-scaled graphs.
    You truly are the marketing police everyone needs

    • @xouthpaw
      @xouthpaw Год назад +21

      I do enjoy a good slideshow

    • @YouHaventSeenMeRight
      @YouHaventSeenMeRight Год назад +18

      AMD's spiel about DP 2.1 and HDMI 2.2 was ridiculous anyway. By the time the monitors arrive that are able to handle those max frequencies, there will be cards that might be able to drive those frequencies and resolutions, but this generation isn't.

    • @iffy_too4289
      @iffy_too4289 Год назад

      You really needed an ellipsis... after the Thanks Steve...

    • @Kirgoss
      @Kirgoss Год назад +8

      @@_Clivey We are kind of forgetting HDR with 10 Bit color depth here though, as it always seems to be forgotten...
      4K + 120 Hz + HDR with 10 Bit colors = Not possible on DP 1.4 (which the RTX 4090 has...)
      This isn't something crazy to ask for either.
      One can now argue that 8 Bit colors with dithering is enough, but considering the crazy prices these cards cost, there shouldn't be any tricks like that needed imo.

    • @TheArrowedKnee
      @TheArrowedKnee Год назад +4

      @@YouHaventSeenMeRight I don't see 8K being practically usable for like another 5-10 years. Yeah this 8K talk now is nothing but a marketing gimmick. Heck, only just in the last couple of years, did 4K with decent framerates become possible.

  • @reekwind1294
    @reekwind1294 6 месяцев назад +92

    When i bought a new gaming rig, i remembered how Nividia treated us during the epedemic, i got the RX 7900 XTX.

    • @supernice_auto
      @supernice_auto 2 месяца назад +3

      respect

    • @Codyslx
      @Codyslx Месяц назад

      Got a 4080 to negate your amd purchase. Your welcome.😊

    • @josephk6136
      @josephk6136 Месяц назад +23

      @@Codyslx Sorry for your loss...

    • @Codyslx
      @Codyslx Месяц назад +1

      @@josephk6136 Yeah, i died drowing in cuda and dlss.

    • @rainiermartina2723
      @rainiermartina2723 Месяц назад +12

      Pfp makes sense ​@@Codyslx

  • @MultiNastyNate
    @MultiNastyNate Год назад +937

    I like the clear umbrella. Makes it easy to see people walking near you. Would be interesting to know how many drops per minute it's capable of dispersing, and how robust the frame is under wind conditions.

  • @Untotifizierung
    @Untotifizierung Год назад +774

    Glad you did the "8k" testing. Eye-opening. Finally the future of gaming is here. How could I have lived without it before. Thanks Steve!

    • @johnc8327
      @johnc8327 Год назад +72

      AMD touting 8K gaming if funny considering Nvidia is the only one that can think about 8K gaming with DLSS + Frame Generation. Such an odd move to hype 8k gaming if your AMD.

    • @zperdek
      @zperdek Год назад +24

      @@johnc8327 It's subtle but it is humor still.

    • @jari2018
      @jari2018 Год назад +13

      for me is the future a 32 inch 75 hz gaming in 1080p preferble - ral life gaming wiht pixels down to atomscale.. I dont play real life but games

    • @xFluing
      @xFluing Год назад +4

      Back to you Steve

    • @Rohirrim009
      @Rohirrim009 Год назад +4

      Yea the future just give it 10 years for cards to become powerful enough to hit over 144fps at 8k. Myself i look forward to 4k gaming when Nvidia new 5000 series comes out in 2 to 3 years. Then it might br worth upgrading my monitors from 1440p to 4k.

  • @CODandponies
    @CODandponies Год назад +588

    I just want to thank you for putting up numbers for older cards. I have a 1070 and it has become difficult to compare with modern stuff when a lot of channels only go back one or two generations.

    • @wombat5252
      @wombat5252 Год назад +42

      Im still using my 1660 GTX TI. It's seriously lacking and I need to upgrade but damn, I can't justify spending $1k on a video card. I don't even think I could spend more than $500 at most. My 1660 GTX TI was $300 brand new at the time and it's the MSI version too which is a bit more costly. It was pretty good for the time it came out...I wish we could still get mid tier cards brand new for around $300-400.

    • @Astral_Incarnate
      @Astral_Incarnate Год назад +17

      @@wombat5252 the 6000 series cards are decently priced right now. you can get a 6700xt for roughly $350-400 and you can get both the 6600 and 6650xt for well under $300 now. amd did really take advantage of the crazy gpu pricing over the last 2 years but at least it seems that unlike nvidia they arent stupid enough to continually price ridiculously high. also the 3070 and 6800 are both available for that $500 limit if you are looking for something

    • @wombat5252
      @wombat5252 Год назад +7

      @@Astral_Incarnate I've been considering it. You are not wrong. I'd want the new technology of the 7000s chiplet design though but I might honestly just go for that 6700xt as well. I'm going to be upgrading my mobo and CPU and RAM as well as I'm still currently on a Ryzen 2600x so those cards would be extremely bottlenecked. The GPU will be my last upgrade next year.

    • @jordancomeaux6888
      @jordancomeaux6888 Год назад +9

      @@wombat5252 I've got the 6750xt an it's awesome. 1440p ultra at 100+fps in all but the absolute most demanding, rdr2 ultra 1440p is 85fps, dying light2 high is 80fps etc. I've only tried raytracing in doom eternal an it was okay but not really that noticeable. Dying light 2 raytracing is like playing another game with it enabled but my card only gets 40fps without fsr. My card beats the 3070 but loses to the 3070ti while being $100 to $200 less than those.

    • @wombat5252
      @wombat5252 Год назад +7

      @@jordancomeaux6888 That's good! 1440p is where I like to play. Haven't found a need to upgrade to a 4k monitor. I was thinking about the 6800xt. I'm an MSI snob, I only want the MSI version. Lol that brand has always done well for me and lasted a long time and they are pricier than most, but I can't shy away from the brand.

  • @mjc0961
    @mjc0961 Год назад +324

    The 8K benchmarks were everything I could have hoped for. Thanks, Steve (and team)!
    Here's hoping that both AMD and Nvidia will now shut up about 8K until they have a card that can produce playable framerates at that resolution.

    • @tristanmack5779
      @tristanmack5779 Год назад +11

      Haha I wish that were the case but unfortunately I don't think it ever will be. My gf's GTX 960 says it's pushing 4K 60 fps in the windows settings, yet we all know it hasn't been consistently achieveable until the high end 20 and 30 series cards came out and even then it's really only the high end 30 series cards that do 4K well. Even those advertise max res at 8K. It's all just marketing ploy. You won't see a card hitting 8K above 30 frames on most AAA titles for probably at least another two generations. But both companies will keep advertising it and telling you they do. It is annoying, but it does help their marketing to the ignorant I suppose.

    • @Pickle_surprize1121
      @Pickle_surprize1121 Год назад +9

      @@tristanmack5779 pretty much any card can output to 4k 60 its just that the gpus themselves arent powerful enough to render 4k 60 in games (below 3070/80 territory)

    • @FrostyBud777
      @FrostyBud777 Год назад +6

      I mean, If you drop all settings to low, and turn on FSR or DLSS down to utra performance, it would probably run great, BUT THE WHOLE POINT OF 4K AND 8K IS TO PLAY IN NATIVE SHARP RESOLUTION. I think both fsr and dlss as well as ray tracing is a joke! Rather play 4k Native ultra settings with a good card like 7900 xtx than try to turn on ray tracing and turn on fsr and then play upscaled. Upscaling is so dumb, Just play at 4k without upscale unless you need to use it and if you need to use it, your card ain't good enough lol I just got 7900 xtx 999 power color hell hound after TRYING TO PLAY 4K 60 FPS WITH 3070TI for 2 years almost cause I couldn't find/get another card with good 4k performance for a good price. At launch the 3070ti was 800+ dollars, and I paid 1250 for it due to emergency and used my covid money, and only 8gb memory, compare that to 7900 xtx for 1000 dollars which rips 4k and has 24 GB memory. Just WOW. i AM HAPPY!

    • @Somtric
      @Somtric Год назад +3

      Why would you even want to play 8k though.. it's pointless, 4k is somewhat understandable on larger monitors, but even that.. is a stretch.

    • @kidwave1
      @kidwave1 Год назад +2

      @@Somtric Yea, I'd much rather have a bazillion framerate at 1080, than much less at 4k. Yea, i get it, when you look at a static screenshot, an amazing amount of detail is cool, but 99.9% of the time, when youre "runnin and gunnin", that amount of detail is functionally imperceptible. I wont upgrade, until I can setup a VR system, that can push both VR screens in the headset at 4k easily, with acceptable frame rates(at least 100 FPS) , to ENTIRELY mitigate the screen door effect. That level of GPU will obviously leave 4k ON A MONITOR, when NON VR gaming, ...finally worth the jump to full time 4k gaming.

  • @bdbgh
    @bdbgh Год назад +375

    Thanks for including the older cards in the review, really helps put things into perspective for owners of older cards

    • @kentaronagame7529
      @kentaronagame7529 Год назад +10

      It's still launch drivers vs seasoned drivers. The new cards will pull ahead even more eventually.

    • @Bob-of-Zoid
      @Bob-of-Zoid Год назад +5

      Oh dear, mine isn't in there! That makes my card ancient!

    • @Danzo1212
      @Danzo1212 Год назад +6

      im still rocking a Asus 1060 6GB OC

    • @ShwetankYa
      @ShwetankYa Год назад +3

      @@Danzo1212 I have a 1060 3gb 😂

    • @heatnup
      @heatnup Год назад +9

      @@Bob-of-Zoid what are those emotes 😂

  • @SuperMari026
    @SuperMari026 Год назад +347

    Trying to watch this during a meeting is a challenge but I gotta know how the new cards perform. Thanks Steve.

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  Год назад +176

      Don't get in trouble!

    • @SuperMari026
      @SuperMari026 Год назад +91

      @@GamersNexus they suspect nothing :D

    • @SubnetMask
      @SubnetMask Год назад +14

      Surely it's gotta be easier to explain away a bunch of charts and numbers than if you were caught looking at Tik Tok videos!

    • @philtv10oct87
      @philtv10oct87 Год назад

      an Nvidia meeting. nvidia stuff gathering to see @Gamers Nexus's review :))

    • @Hoshikani
      @Hoshikani Год назад

      either it is a bad job or your are a bad worker

  • @Corey_Snodgrass
    @Corey_Snodgrass 6 месяцев назад +12

    Overclocked red devil xtx at exactly half the price of a 4090 = big win.

  • @DasGanon
    @DasGanon Год назад +111

    I love this because 1. It's an amazingly detailed review 2. It definitely shows the strengths of the GN team due to the recording details 3. I learned the mattress trick and even in good headphones I can't really tell a difference between this and your usual audio which is surprising!

    • @phattjohnson
      @phattjohnson Год назад +2

      That mattress trick is a handy one for a ghetto soundproof-booth on the go!

    • @lizhang9807
      @lizhang9807 Год назад

      what do you think now? lolz

    • @peter1001pp
      @peter1001pp Год назад

      Amd can. my radeon 7900 xt was up in 3000 mhz without oc it xD

  • @dfcx1
    @dfcx1 Год назад +401

    I like that the rx580 is included in the comparison charts since that's what I'd be upgrading from.

    • @FhtagnCthulhu
      @FhtagnCthulhu Год назад +14

      Just upgraded from mine, I really appreciate seeing the numbers for that still. That is about how long I keep a computer

    • @pakman184
      @pakman184 Год назад +39

      That feeling when your 1060 is now too old to appear on the chart

    • @PQED
      @PQED Год назад +7

      Same here with the 1070.
      Money sucks when you don't have it, and at the same time see massive gains on both the CPU and GPU sides.
      I'm truly at the wrong side of history right now.

    • @nurbsivonsirup1416
      @nurbsivonsirup1416 Год назад +22

      @@pakman184 tbf, it's practically equal to the RX580, so probably they didn't bother putting it in.

    • @pakman184
      @pakman184 Год назад +3

      @@nurbsivonsirup1416 fair point

  • @ZadesLegacy
    @ZadesLegacy Год назад +370

    Man...the GPU market needs a lot more serious competition. The prices are insane.
    Edit: A bit of arguing going on below this comment. My comment was an observation, not a economic or political stance. Please be civil 🙂.

    • @rodiculous9464
      @rodiculous9464 Год назад +29

      We are seeing lots of inflation everywhere people are just viewing gpus in a vacuum

    • @alpsalish
      @alpsalish Год назад +17

      Just pretty disappointed in technology in general. We are in a massive shift and a lot has to settle down and find adoption and design efficiency.

    • @diegodiazguerra
      @diegodiazguerra Год назад +78

      @@rodiculous9464 the amount of inflation doesn’t correlate in the slightest to the price increases we’re seeing in the GPU market

    • @InnuendoXP
      @InnuendoXP Год назад +36

      @@rodiculous9464 inflation since 2014 is around 25% in most western economies & before 2021 it was around 12%
      GPU prices have gone up a lot more than 25% & it started from the first cryptoboom & then Turing after AMD dropped the ball with Vega.
      Like if the '70 tier series of GeForce cards went up by 25% inflation then we should expect the 4070's launch price to be around $412.50... lol
      Maybe we'll get an RTX3070 for that after the 4070 launches.

    • @JViz
      @JViz Год назад +78

      ​@@rodiculous9464 My gtx 1070 was $365 brand new at best buy in 2017. If the RX 7800 XT and 4070 are $800, that's a 120% markup in 5 years for the same tier SKU. That's not inflation, that's gouging.

  • @BladeBloodreaver
    @BladeBloodreaver Год назад +24

    It was nice to see my current 5700 XT on the charts! Looks like 7900 XTX will be best value for me. Just need a partner card that fits my case (only have 32cm or 34 if i remove front fan).

  • @DerIchBinDa
    @DerIchBinDa Год назад +136

    Thank you and your team for the awesome work you are doing! Building my own PCs since the early 90s and I really appreciate all the details you are going into.
    Cheers from Germany!

    • @daveking1528
      @daveking1528 Год назад +5

      wow... 20€ aus dem Fenster geworfen.

    • @DerIchBinDa
      @DerIchBinDa Год назад +10

      @@daveking1528 Du hast so wenig von Ahnung, du solltest da mal ganz still sein.

    • @anonymousx6651
      @anonymousx6651 Год назад +5

      @@daveking1528 Leute haben mehr für weniger ausgegeben, vor allem in einer Kommentarsektion über gaming PCs

    • @cy-one
      @cy-one Год назад +6

      @@daveking1528 Ausgehend davon wieviel nützliche Info ich in den letzten Jahren von GN bekommen habe, wäre mir das auch locker den Preis von nem Adana Grillteller und 'ner Cola wert.

    • @bb-ballistics1706
      @bb-ballistics1706 Год назад +11

      20 euros and not even a thank you from the channel lol

  • @kakem0ne
    @kakem0ne Год назад +68

    “Show stopping at 8k” 😂 well played! Hard to argue with that statement…. U guys rock!!!!

    • @noway8662
      @noway8662 Год назад

      Yeah, there's no fucking way anyone is running "8K" native without frame generation. Which is stupid, because upscaling from 4K is a better option and you don't have to deal with any FG artifacts.

  • @14Ramjet
    @14Ramjet Год назад +140

    I like the new view of showing the pressure mapping. It really puts it into perspective on where the pressure actually is.

    • @Dennzer1
      @Dennzer1 Год назад

      yes

    • @kravenfoxbodies2479
      @kravenfoxbodies2479 Год назад +1

      It's not 100% test if GN reinstalled the cooler after it left the factory install. you just don't start on any bolt reinstalling a head on an engine block for reasons.

    • @14Ramjet
      @14Ramjet Год назад +13

      @@kravenfoxbodies2479 ok....... Pretty sure they do the testing before the pressure testing. It is just showing you how well the cooler makes contact with the package. It is never going to be a factory test, but it will be very close.

    • @DK-nc9wr
      @DK-nc9wr Год назад +5

      ​@@kravenfoxbodies2479 do you plan on uploading a video doing this test? I hope you do since that'd be productive instead of just commenting. Thanks

    • @Bob-of-Zoid
      @Bob-of-Zoid Год назад +5

      What does "It's not 100% test" even mean? I think you left out the word "Accurate". What good is being 100% accurate, when you are accounting for all the wrong things? And since when is 100% even necessary when there's a range of tolerances, or where the difference between more or less of something makes no measurable difference?
      You sound like an audiophile getting their panties in a knot over frequency ranges outside of human hearing, or some guitar player who thinks the type and amount of paint on their electric guitar makes any measurable difference, let alone an audible one!
      Who said they don't have the assembly specs (Order and torque) if they even matter anywhere near to the same degree as on cylinder heads? They don't!
      In the case of an engine it's about maintaining good seals, and preventing premature wear by eliminating physical distortion of the cylinder heads, not better heat dissipation. Here you are not trying to counter pressure with pressure, have no relevant moving parts and whatever forces they bring to worry about, nor need to worry about heat distorting the plate at these temps and it's relative size, and finally: Once the screws bottom out, there's already enough pressure (by design), and any extra torque is only to keep the screws from coming loose.
      That pattern may show distortion or inaccurate dimensions of the plate or components themselves, to where adjusting the torque of a few screws, including taking some pressure off of one or more may be beneficial.

  • @Camalex98
    @Camalex98 Год назад +8

    I really appreciate you still having vega on the charts. have a 1440p 144hz monitor and haven't had a good reason to upgrade from vega until I can satisfy my monitor. Thanks for taking the time to do that!

  • @diabloterrorgf
    @diabloterrorgf Год назад +10

    Shout out to your camera and mic crew. That is an amazing shot outside in the rain with amazingly clear audio. 20+ year career professionals can't get a shot like that.

  • @gmaildinozz
    @gmaildinozz Год назад +95

    A big thank you to you for continuing to integrate the previous 'old' big references bench (rtx2070 in my case) !

    • @MaxDad7
      @MaxDad7 Год назад +4

      Same. I also have a 2070 that I use for 1080p gaming. If I do upgrade, it will probably be another 7 card. Although I don't think I will be going with Nvidia next time.

    • @Ubarius
      @Ubarius Год назад +3

      Agreed, I'm in this camp with my 2070.
      Still waiting on a worthy upgrade that doesn't cost the moon, nor consume insane amounts of power.
      From a watt consumption point of view, the 2070 is still unmatched.

  • @Crowder
    @Crowder Год назад +426

    It's not much but after the incredible work you did with this one behind the scenes, I had to!
    Keep it up, you (and your team) are among, if not the best, tech youtubers I know.

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  Год назад +66

      Thank you so much for the support! Any amount is helpful!

    • @piercewiederecht5135
      @piercewiederecht5135 Год назад +15

      They are head and shoulders above the rest for viewers who like actual facts and tech.

    • @SilverScarletSpider
      @SilverScarletSpider Год назад +3

      @@piercewiederecht5135 Agreed. Makes Linus look like a walking advertisement and social media influencer

    • @manr.9106
      @manr.9106 Год назад +1

      100% agreed ! Thank you Steve and Team for your unbiased reality related reviews. Definitely the most in depth testing and common sense approach tech review channel out there!
      Definitely necessary to ensure that they can continue being unbiased! C’mon people 🤝🫶

  • @XBnPC
    @XBnPC Год назад +7

    My XFX 7900 XTX hits 3Ghz at 55c on air with 1.1Tbs+ on its 24GB VRAM. Idk if it's luck or just a decent cooler, but i ❤️ it 😊

  • @Samophlan
    @Samophlan Год назад +4

    Glad you are still showing the Vega cards. I'm still running a Ryzen 1700x and Vega Frontier. These comparisons have been very helpful.

  • @OwlMoovement
    @OwlMoovement Год назад +245

    Gonna be a bit nostalgic here.
    The state of GPU prices compelled me to check back on two of my favourite launches of the past: the HD4870 and the 7970. I really liked the "Let's start with the price point most people buy at and just ace it" approach of the 4870 small die launch. I ran the launch MSRP of $300 through the Bank of Canada Inflation Calculator and that puts it at just over $400 in 2022 dollars. The closest launch MSRP and die size equivalent earlier this year would be the 6650XT. I know an apples to apples comparison in performance is hard when featuresets change so much and one of those apples is 14 years old, but the 4870 sat much higher in charts back then than the 6650XT did last year.
    The higher end, bigger die release of the HD7970 at $550MSRP in 2012 (Just under $700 in 2022 dollars) was also good value for the money. The 7950 at $450 was arguably even better. Both of them traded blows with the more expensive 590 and 580s. Even accepting that the 7900XTX is at a tier or two higher than the 7970 in its day, I think we'd be lucky to see that kind of value at the predicted prices I'm seeing for the 7800XT and 7700XT.
    I know the fact that prices have drastically outpaced CPI (and incomes) is old news, but I thought it'd be helpful to make that value comparison. Offering better value than the 4080 and 4090 is a good start but that's far short of where we could be.

    • @Targonis1
      @Targonis1 Год назад +13

      Prices of things have gone up by over ten percent in the past 12 months alone. 2020 was the year that also drove prices through the roof due to Covid and cost increases across many items as well(shipping cost increases were insane). So, look back to 2019, see how prices compared, then compare 2019 to 2022 to see how things have gone.

    • @joeykeilholz925
      @joeykeilholz925 Год назад +9

      In the US the 3060 Ti founders if you were able to find it was the only kind of justifiable GPU under $400 that I could remotely compare to a 4870.
      Outside of that there is no comparison when you bring up cards like the 1080 Ti that gave you more for your money even if it's a flagship card. That was of course a mistake Nvidia never made again.

    • @flamingscar5263
      @flamingscar5263 Год назад +10

      its not just inflation thats a factor
      many, many companies are involved making a GPU
      Nvdia/AMD designing the GPU die
      Samsung/micron manufacturing and designing the vram
      TSMC/Samsung manufacturing the GPU die
      the AIB putting it all together
      and then you have the material cost, look at how much copper has increased in price, most GPUs worth your money use copper heat pipes, were getting close to copper being 2x the price it was in 2016
      Silicon has increased in price by about 30%
      in march of this year aluminum hit its highest price in history, even adjusted for inflation
      and things will only get worse, this planet only has a finite amount of these metals, every day we get closer and closer to having none left

    • @jessefisher1809
      @jessefisher1809 Год назад +5

      @@Targonis1 Isn't that why he adjusted for inflation?

    • @reaperxxi
      @reaperxxi Год назад +9

      @@flamingscar5263 Thats what I dont understand, so many people are quick to blame AMD or NVIDIA for the pricing of stuff but TSMC is really the exclusive manufacture of the die's, yes company greed plays a part but everything has gone up, and all those price increases eventually land on us the consumer. Hince the 1,000+ dollar gpus.

  • @BjornsTIR
    @BjornsTIR Год назад +145

    Given the voltage regulation issues, I'm looking forward to the AIB card reviews!

    • @junkiexl86
      @junkiexl86 Год назад +13

      I learned the hard way years ago to not even entertain a stock refrence card. Though it seems Nvidia nailed it this gen. On the design and implementation that is lol.

    • @BjornsTIR
      @BjornsTIR Год назад +14

      @@junkiexl86 Yeah, too bad they're so damn big. To be fair, my 6700xt reference card is working just fine, and I think "working just fine" is all reference cards have to do. I don't like how nvidia is basically competing with the AIBs but having pricing advantages.

    • @BlueDrew10
      @BlueDrew10 Год назад +8

      @@junkiexl86 If by "nailed it", you mean overengineered with a gaudy design. I know that last part is subjective, but come on. It's a fancy brick.

    • @celzolsen8988
      @celzolsen8988 Год назад +3

      @@BlueDrew10 it could have been 2/3 the size if they downclocked it by 70% and it'd still keep 95% performance. I'd rather have that than this idiotic brick

    • @BjornsTIR
      @BjornsTIR Год назад +1

      @@celzolsen8988 They wouldn't have to change the clocks for the 4080 at all to make it smaller

  • @olympusmons4089
    @olympusmons4089 Год назад +16

    I hope AMD continues to innovate. We need the competition! Not so sure we would see 80 tier Nvidia cards hundreds over the 1k mark it we had AMD competing.

  • @nolan_8
    @nolan_8 Год назад +53

    Thank you for highlighting TW:WH3 in your review! It is a very demanding game and an important benchmark for the industry IMO.
    Interestingly, the campaign map seems to be even more intense for GPUs' as my 3080 runs hotter and is bottle-necked by my 5600X. The 5800X3D cache seems to greatly improve the campaign map so I will be purchasing it once the price is more affordable.

    • @luked9362
      @luked9362 Год назад +3

      I play TWWH3 as my main game and can't upvote this comment enough. WH3 gets about 53fps on campaign for me with a 5800x3d and 7900xtx. Man, it just eats my whole card

    • @Szurix90
      @Szurix90 Год назад

      @@luked9362 which resolution do you play?

  • @fliptomylou8880
    @fliptomylou8880 Год назад +69

    Been waiting weeks for this video...keep up the good work Steve.

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  Год назад +26

      Good work team!

    • @fliptomylou8880
      @fliptomylou8880 Год назад +8

      @@GamersNexus yes great work to the whole production team and fellow testers that help put these videos all together.

  • @Dia1Up
    @Dia1Up Год назад +137

    Thank you for retesting and showing older cards. I have a Vega 56, the 7900xtx is looking like a good upgrade. It's nice to have numbers to directly compare

    • @cristianspiridon
      @cristianspiridon Год назад

      You should not buy a 1000+ card without having great ray tracing performance!!! Just buy 6950 and don't give nv or amd money for this gen!!!

    • @evacody1249
      @evacody1249 Год назад

      @@cristianspiridon dude not every one cares about ray tracing not when the FPS takes a hit.
      You Nvidia fanboys are just as bad as Apple fanboys.

    • @peterhoffmann2231
      @peterhoffmann2231 Год назад +6

      @@JS-oh2dp to be fair. cyberpunk77 with rx on is literally night and day in terms of looks

    • @L4veyan
      @L4veyan Год назад +3

      @@JS-oh2dp It's easy to notice when lighting/shadows/reflections are inaccurate. That's where ray tracing comes in, it's simply superior to everything screen space related unless the game developers don't know what they're doing, which has happened with some games. Stray is a good example, the game doesn't even have any RT options, but you can enable it through an ini file. There's a huge difference once enabled.

    • @3CODKing
      @3CODKing Год назад +6

      @@cristianspiridon hardly anyone cares about Ray Tracing my guy.

  • @Zenny9
    @Zenny9 Год назад +113

    Man, my flagship 1080 Ti at the time costed me around $1100. Its absolutely insane that the flagship cards of today in my country go for literally more than twice the price of that.

    • @Nemesis2446
      @Nemesis2446 Год назад +2

      Same.

    • @H3nrque
      @H3nrque Год назад +14

      I'm rocking an RX 580 and was surprised to see it featured there. I'm still able to play anything I want at 1080p, I'll wait a couple more years before upgrading.

    • @hirokjyotideka5571
      @hirokjyotideka5571 Год назад +10

      @Precise. It's good considering the years and warzone's shitty optimization.

    • @cemsengul16
      @cemsengul16 Год назад +14

      @@hirokjyotideka5571 People don't understand that Warzone and Cyberpunk are broken games.

    • @Swearzy
      @Swearzy Год назад +5

      I bought my 1080ti new in Australia for $1300 AUD if I remember correctly, I got a decent deal on a barely used 3080 for $1000 AUD and the performance difference is crazy between the two even though it isnt a ti

  • @zephynum
    @zephynum Год назад +19

    It would be rather nice if AMD made a binned version of the 7900 XTX named 7970 XTX to immortalize the HD 7970

  • @domg6041
    @domg6041 Год назад +163

    Love you guys and thanks for the reviews. I recently got 3 1440p monitors and was going to upgrade this generation (from an EVGA GTX 1070). Seeing my card on the list helps and goes to show why you guys are the go-to for hardware reviews.
    Thanks again!

    • @xYiazmatx
      @xYiazmatx Год назад +1

      Also peeping the 1070 on those charts. Great card!

    • @PeterADean
      @PeterADean Год назад

      What do you think you'll go with?

    • @rcg260697
      @rcg260697 Год назад

      what 1440p monitors did you buy? I was searching for one but got exhausted looking all the options, there are so many comparissons and "best ones" for different use cases. A recomendation would be great.

    • @axegash2790
      @axegash2790 Год назад +2

      @@rcg260697 can’t really go wrong with the Samsung Odyssey range

    • @FishingMaster_99
      @FishingMaster_99 Год назад +1

      @@rcg260697 hardware unboxing has good vids to help but the key thing is how much money you want to spend, once you have your target price then it gets easy

  • @thecivilizedgamer2533
    @thecivilizedgamer2533 Год назад +23

    Audio sounded really good throughout the video 👍 impressive that you can put out videos with the same performance you always do

  • @Bound4Earth
    @Bound4Earth 4 месяца назад +9

    So you get 70% of the performance at half the price right now.

  • @sidvicious3129
    @sidvicious3129 Год назад +16

    Great job, honest reviews without all of the BS, it's what we have come to expect from the team at Gamers Nexus!!!

  • @BBMorti
    @BBMorti Год назад +51

    Thank you so much for including fan noise. I value a quiet system over some extra frames every day of the week.

  • @Andarion00
    @Andarion00 Год назад +265

    Am. I having a deja vu or didn't Steve do a video in this place too years when AMD began to seriously threaten Intel with Ryzen?

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  Год назад +233

      We did! Great memory, haha. We wanted to reuse the setting with the storyline overlap!

    • @us7876
      @us7876 Год назад +20

      hopefully we get what happened with processors, a few gpu generations with reasonable pricing 😂

    • @TheAnzamin
      @TheAnzamin Год назад +21

      GN has spoken, the future of AMD GPUs is sealed!

    • @sophiaperennis2360
      @sophiaperennis2360 Год назад +7

      @@GamersNexus It's like poetry, it rhymes.

    • @ireallyreallyreallylikethisimg
      @ireallyreallyreallylikethisimg Год назад +1

      History repeats itself I guess ;)

  • @jordancomeaux6888
    @jordancomeaux6888 Год назад +14

    I love this review. So many on social media are trashing the 7900xtx as if it's trash or saying it lost to the 4080 by a land slide. Then, hardware unboxed when the 7900xtx beat the 4080 it was a meh, but if the 4080 beat it by 5fps it was "huge".

    • @jewelbell5
      @jewelbell5 Год назад +2

      Yea, he's turning into another nvidia shill.

    • @laszlodajka5946
      @laszlodajka5946 Год назад +1

      Exactly xtx is still a great card

  • @802Garage
    @802Garage Год назад +2

    Dang, that mattress delivered some hella clean audio, hahaha. Great work all!

  • @EvanAxel
    @EvanAxel Год назад +67

    Love how the filming was done outside! Makes it more relaxing and unique. Please do more of that!

    • @Alberecht
      @Alberecht Год назад

      What city was that? that street looks gorgeous.

    • @danielchen3993
      @danielchen3993 Год назад

      @@Alberecht xinyi, taipei.

  • @howdo7278
    @howdo7278 Год назад +38

    The 8K benchmarks prove AMD has failed us again… Looks like I’ll be taking my 8K monitor, 8K TV, 8K phone and running over to NVIDIA once again… /s
    Great review as always, Steve!

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  Год назад +15

      hahaha, running over to NVIDIA -- in 3 generations!

  • @ian.goldsmith
    @ian.goldsmith 11 месяцев назад +4

    @GamersNexus - what do you think about re-reviewing the 7900XTX ? as an owner I've been wildly disappointed at how bad the card was for the first six months and especially the first 3 months of ownership, where despite identical 100hz monitors & an RM850X the system stability had initially been measured in barely hours, and the idle power-usage was always over 100watts. VR performance has also been terrible for the first 8months of ownership.
    The most recent drivers seem to have finally fixed most of these things, and also improved performance fairly drastically in a lot of areas - with your platform I'd love to see if you agree about the AMD gpu's being almost a different-level of product 8 months into the cycle, primarily because of drivers reaching maturity, where the disappointment was very real early on.

    • @jetrpg22
      @jetrpg22 7 месяцев назад

      The most recent drivers dont allow you to play ~15-20% dx12 games such as wow and wot without about a driver crash an hour. Alll the better deal cannot fix that.

  • @Sl4sk1
    @Sl4sk1 Год назад +3

    I love that someone still makes reviews like this

  • @Spinal1515
    @Spinal1515 Год назад +17

    I always look at your reviews as one the most honest and throughout available on RUclips. Keep up the excellent job.

  • @mazing87
    @mazing87 Год назад +20

    Steve, your commitment to analyze the data when you're remote is exactly why I trust the work that you do! Excellent stuff!

  • @stever7638
    @stever7638 Год назад +2

    I don't know why I pay attention to graphics cards that cost 1000 bucks.
    Can I afford it? Yes. Is it absolutely ridiculous to spend this kind of money on a card just to stay up-to-date and not anything long term? Absolutely.
    Excellent video as always… these prices are just absurd..... that's across-the-board.

  • @mafaizo
    @mafaizo Год назад +5

    me with my intel HD graphics 4600 :

  • @JASHIKO_
    @JASHIKO_ Год назад +91

    No one crushes testing like you guys! An absolute brilliant video as usual!
    Thanks for looking out for all of us!

    • @Leonardo-wn2fp
      @Leonardo-wn2fp Год назад +1

      I'm really eager to see AIB cards tested by GN. If they get the power consumption under control, this can be a big W.

    • @LiveBenchmarks
      @LiveBenchmarks Год назад +1

      u sure?

    • @JASHIKO_
      @JASHIKO_ Год назад +1

      @@Leonardo-wn2fp Me too, I watch most of the tech channels for varying info but GN does the most detailed breakdowns and seems to have less of a bias than some of the others.

    • @Leonardo-wn2fp
      @Leonardo-wn2fp Год назад

      @@JASHIKO_ Yea, GN's great

    • @Leonardo-wn2fp
      @Leonardo-wn2fp Год назад

      @@LiveBenchmarks I can't look into the future, mate. But overall, I do think that the experienced boardpartners can design a better PCB and get some greater BIOS running on those cards. That may take care of the power draw. If not, it may be the chiplet design or something else that is inherent with AMDs overall GPU design.

  • @august1870
    @august1870 Год назад +89

    Beautiful and cozy shot :) thank you guys for providing such good coverage even while you’re abroad

  • @icediverfull
    @icediverfull Год назад +8

    Love to see vega included, which makes the comparison easy for me
    Only comparing high end cards makes No real sense for most people!
    Thanks GN Team

    • @randomlyentertaining8287
      @randomlyentertaining8287 Год назад

      Well when I'm watching reviews, I'm wanting to see how much better or worse one company's product is to another's, in this case which is better, 4080 or 7900 XTX. I can safely assume my stuff is going to be significantly inferior to what I'm looking at, otherwise I wouldn't be bothering to look. It's which should I buy, not should I buy at all. Now there are times where it's interesting to see how my old stuff compares to new stuff but it's not essential.

    • @hannessteffenhagen61
      @hannessteffenhagen61 Год назад

      ​​@@randomlyentertaining8287 I think it's pretty dang essential. Imagine the gen-gen performance difference is like 10-15% at higher power draw. Doesn't matter which one is better between the two, unless you're desperate for an upgrade or its accompanied by a significant price drop it's not really worth looking at, no matter which card of the gen is technically best.

  • @Leggir
    @Leggir Год назад +5

    As I run AMD GPU in my desktop since the Radeon All-in-Wonder 9800 Pro, the 7900XTX will be a nice upgrade from my 5700XT.

  • @kiitter
    @kiitter Год назад +26

    Thank you all for including charts for RT on with FSR / DLSS on!
    Most other reviewers I follow only had the raw RT performance with no reference as to how something like FSR / DLSS might affect it.

    • @kidsythe
      @kidsythe Год назад +2

      I mean I agree we should see all variables. But at the same time RT on makes the game look better. DLSS / FSR makes the game look worse. I feel like you either want one or the other.

    • @cooltwittertag
      @cooltwittertag Год назад +1

      @@kidsythe cyberpunk (if it wasn't a broken mess) is a great game even at 1440p FSR balanced because with all their movie filters I really can't tell its upscaled unless I'm zooming into a still picture

    • @kidsythe
      @kidsythe Год назад

      @@cooltwittertag I'm still on last gens 3080ti and the DLSS a fsr seem to ruin aspects of the game. I find that small symbols are unreadable. Lines and enemies are blurred. My experience is limited. But also makes me wonder why it gets any praise at all. I'd rather turn my settings down than turn on DLSS I only used fsr once tho.

  • @ninja.saywhat
    @ninja.saywhat Год назад +61

    really glad you added the 5700xt in your test as i currently uses one. i've been thinking about upgrading from that to possibly either the 7900xtx or 4080 if the latter's price goes down after the initial benchmarks are released.

    • @MrStoffzor
      @MrStoffzor Год назад +3

      Also been using a (waterblocked reference) 5700 XT since launch and got hold of a new 6900 XT Waterforce for ~$650 last week. Was gonna wait for the new cards but at that price it was hard to pass up.
      Playing @ 1440p and couldn't be happier with the performance uplift

    • @chilpeeps
      @chilpeeps Год назад +4

      Just buy 5080 would be the final sandwich of 4k gaming gpu

    • @madb132
      @madb132 Год назад +7

      @@chilpeeps 5080? you from the future? what else has happened?

    • @Lucky13766
      @Lucky13766 Год назад +1

      @@chilpeeps so how fast is 5080? What’s the price? Since you’re from the future.

    • @denisn8336
      @denisn8336 Год назад

      @@Lucky13766the 5080 will be the defacto 4K ray tracing card and high fps.

  • @JorgeMartinez-dp3im
    @JorgeMartinez-dp3im Год назад +4

    The 7900XTX is strong af and I'm surprised people are shitting on it so much. It's raster performance is outstanding in a lot of titles. I think it would have slayed on the market if launched for 800. The XT should cost less than that but I'm just not sure by how much.

    • @ashupashu5559
      @ashupashu5559 Год назад +2

      Its has rtx 4080 performance for 200 dollars cheaper. People keep forgetting that

    • @KarmaKahn
      @KarmaKahn Год назад +2

      @@ashupashu5559 Indeed. Nvidia only has an edge at the very high end at this point. Big win for AMD imho. Nvidia have really priced themselves out of the competition.

    • @ashupashu5559
      @ashupashu5559 Год назад

      @@KarmaKahn even if this is better for amd both companies are overpricing their cards. Not really a big win for anyone.

    • @KarmaKahn
      @KarmaKahn Год назад +1

      @@ashupashu5559 Crypto miners have ruined it for us all, but at least AMD have affordable options at midrange. Not sure who Nvidia intends to buy their cards atm.

    • @Sherolox
      @Sherolox Год назад

      Let's hope for Intel causing an even larger impact with their price to performance ratio, which should at least force AMD to drop their prices and be even more competitive.

  • @2pingu937
    @2pingu937 Год назад +1

    Hey Steve,
    I always go searching for day 1 reviews but always end back here at the end.
    Thanks for the way you do things

  • @KoeiNL
    @KoeiNL Год назад +189

    Honestly, it matching a 3090TI in RT is not that bad. That is a huge leap from RDNA2 and in my opinion good enough in most cases. Edit: The XT should be a lot cheaper though, at least $150 less.

    • @Real_MisterSir
      @Real_MisterSir Год назад +45

      It's not matching the 3090TI in raytracing at all. It's only "matching" when the raytracing part is set to a minimal level (like games that only feature RT shadows for example, not full RT), meaning 90% of the actual difference comes from raster performance, not RT performance. In games that are actually fairly raytraced, the 3090Ti blows the XTX out of the water. Even the 3080Ti outcompetes it.

    • @FragbiteOeXistenz
      @FragbiteOeXistenz Год назад +35

      Man, you cant even see if RT is on or not. FPS way more important

    • @GreekSIMRACING
      @GreekSIMRACING Год назад +6

      @@Real_MisterSir If would not want to be in 4K and full RT to play in 45 fps and pay 1000$-1200$.My needs are to play 120fps on 144hz ultra wide.Below 70 fps now i can feel it even with my old gtx 1080.

    • @gorjy9610
      @gorjy9610 Год назад +63

      Number of people who just few months ago claimed that 3090ti level of RT is more than enough and reason no1 to buy that stupidly overpriced card just to today claim that is not usable at all in RT is stunning.

    • @MechAdv
      @MechAdv Год назад +6

      This should have followed RDNA2 pricing at best. 650-700$ for what is equivalent to the 6800xt, a 10% cut down top end die. Honestly this is a very disappointing result for two reasons. First, the 7900xt is bad value relative to 550$ 6800xt and 650$ 6900xt, and the whole point of cut down cards is to provide better value than the flagship cards. Neither the 7900xt or xtx are worth buying at these modest uplifts over last Gen. Secondly, Nvidia will have no need to lower their pricing if this is what they can expect from the competition. In a recent poll on HUB, Most people said they are willing to spend 15-20% more money for equal performance on Nvidia vs AMD. Evidently Nvidia knew exactly where that would put their pricing. 20% more money for roughly equal performance in raster, and superior perf across the board in RTX, AND superior perf/watt. That’s the one that really hurts because they were supposed to blow Nvidia out of the water in efficiency this time around.

  • @scenode
    @scenode Год назад +29

    i would really love to see more videos filmed outside with beautiful backgrounds like this one, it was really relaxing imo :)
    And as always, amazing work by the GN team :D

  • @Captain_Chloroform
    @Captain_Chloroform Год назад +18

    Wouldn't it be the best thing ever if EVGA announced they were teaming up with AMD to start making graphic cards again.

  • @markhalstead2386
    @markhalstead2386 6 месяцев назад +5

    A year later and the 4080 is still $1200+

  • @MimosaSTG
    @MimosaSTG Год назад +129

    8K helps you appreciate every single individual detail in every single frame... as long as your turn off motion blur. AND at half the frame rate of a cinematic experience that means you get double the cinematic feel.

    • @LeitoAE
      @LeitoAE Год назад +31

      @@_DeadEnd_ "That is why we present you GT 730 - A new 4k cinematic gaming king"

    • @BOZ_11
      @BOZ_11 Год назад +2

      and u still have to turn on AA. joke's on you

    • @simoSLJ89
      @simoSLJ89 Год назад

      Is that satire?
      Patrick is that satire?

    • @cybyrd9615
      @cybyrd9615 Год назад +1

      Dude when I ran half alyx at 140% super res with the Varjo Aero in VR it felt like a sci-fi movie

  • @BaronCAD
    @BaronCAD Год назад +31

    As always, exactly the review we needed. You're a gem, Steve!

  • @sulphurous2656
    @sulphurous2656 Год назад +2

    "Sub $900 midrange category" is something I never thought I'd hear 2-3 years ago. What a loopy land we've entered.

  • @paco1669
    @paco1669 Год назад +1

    Love that background with the subtle rain noise. It's nice.

  • @doodledibob
    @doodledibob Год назад +5

    Both my friend and I just bought last-gen AMD GPUs in the “battleground” range, because they just completely destroyed NVidia on a price-performance basis. He bought a 6950xt while I “only” bought a 6700xt.
    Raytracing is nice to have, but absolutely not essential at this point. And the other features NVidia has don’t bring enough to the table to justify the ridiculous price points.
    Thanks GN for the excellent coverage, and special thanks for the Black Friday buyers guides. They allowed me to be confident in putting together a new rig after my old one from 11 years ago got past the point of being upgradable.

  • @chef_moquin9535
    @chef_moquin9535 Год назад +64

    16:50 I love these reminders to people that just because the new cards are out doesn't mean you have to upgrade from last gen

    • @joeykeilholz925
      @joeykeilholz925 Год назад +8

      Muh 200 FPS at 4k isn't enough 😉

    • @BOZ_11
      @BOZ_11 Год назад +5

      @Joe 200hz is deffo enough. the difference between 200 and 240 is negligible. nothing AT ALL like going from 120hz to 240hz

    • @theonlylolking
      @theonlylolking Год назад

      @@joeykeilholz925 Try good VR then you will need to upgrade.

    • @artemaung5274
      @artemaung5274 Год назад +1

      One funny stat is that 1050, 1060 3Gb, RTX 2060, 3080 (and pretty much any other 30xx card), 4080 and 4090 all had about identical price/performance when 3080 was $850, 2060 $330, 1060 3Gb $200 and 1050 $100.
      5+ years ago low end cards had massive price/performance advantage, but today it's basically almost the same for an entire range of GPUs from budget to ultra-high end.

    • @InnuendoXP
      @InnuendoXP Год назад

      @@theonlylolking upgrade from what? A 6600XT is more than enough for "good" VR so long as you don't want to shove raytracing into it.

  • @splfordayz9050
    @splfordayz9050 2 месяца назад

    Love this channel. I was all set to buy a 7900xtx but then came across a 1 month used local 4080 FE in perfect condition for $800 and no tax. Super happy so far coming from a 6900XT with a ton of coil whine. The 4080 is silent and I waterblocked it so it never really gets above 40-45 degrees celsius. RT is actually pretty cool in some games with DLSS.

  • @EER0000
    @EER0000 Год назад +22

    Besides the price, the coil whine is something that’s really a dealbreaker. Hopefully it’s specific to this card rather than the model

    • @adankpineapple5994
      @adankpineapple5994 Год назад +3

      Usually coil whine is mostly just dependent on the card or PCB layout used, not the graphics chip. Aftermarket cards will probably solve that

    • @pmarciano1717
      @pmarciano1717 Год назад +1

      Bro all Asus and msi 4090 have the same choilwhine i had 4 Asus Strix 4090 all miserable choilwhine and sended back

  • @HMarcBower
    @HMarcBower Год назад +14

    Thank you for this - was worried it might get delayed with you out of the country. The team did a great job with all of this. :) As for Strange Brigade, not sure why it didn't take off better. It's a really fun multiplayer game, and the writing for it is amusing. :)

  • @rogerthomas368
    @rogerthomas368 Год назад +61

    As a RX 580 owner it seems about time to upgrade :)

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  Год назад +22

      Glad we had it in some of these charts to help out!

    • @rogerthomas368
      @rogerthomas368 Год назад

      @@GamersNexus That is a key reason for the upgrade, you are unlikely to include RX580 numbers when the next round of cards are released.

    • @joemarais7683
      @joemarais7683 Год назад +3

      @@rogerthomas368iuno man, with prices this high, the 580 might still be a legitimate option in 2024

    • @rogerthomas368
      @rogerthomas368 Год назад +2

      Even in the UK where card prices have been a joke, these new cards are putting current 6000/3000 card prices under a lot of pressure and while I have a 4K monitor it is a business monitor so only 60hz (and I do not play any games that use RT). So over the next few months I should have my pick of cards to choose from. The UK market got so bad that last year I purchased a Lenovo laptop with a 3060m for less than 3060 cards were going for.

    • @Luemm3l
      @Luemm3l Год назад

      @@GamersNexus they are immensely useful to somewhat gauge the ability of your own card compared to the newest generations! even if some are obviously missing, you can close the gap between a rx 480, vega 56 and 2070 yourself cause you know how they were priced, advertised and in which category (upperclass, beginner, medium) back in the day and then just see the uplift the models today in the same class. So much appreciated from our side of people who are 2,3, maybe even 4 generations behind >D

  • @breakingblue5399
    @breakingblue5399 Год назад +12

    The amount of work and precision this team puts into their reviews is absolutely phenomenal. The detail is way above what the average consumer cares about but I halve always enjoyed every second of these reviews and teardowns. Ggs guys and keep up the amazing work!

  • @Byvonhumpadicle
    @Byvonhumpadicle Год назад +73

    GN, I really want to see you guys include production benchmarks in your reviews, Blender renders in particular, these cards are of legitimate interest to 3d artists and it would be really good to have more information on their performance here, thanks!

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  Год назад +68

      We can look into adding those back in. We did them some years ago briefly, but haven't updated it for the new bench methods. We'll look into it when back!

    • @analogicparadox
      @analogicparadox Год назад +3

      Absolutely, especially since they do them with CPUs, which tend to be straight up worse compared to GPUs.

    • @TheAnzamin
      @TheAnzamin Год назад +1

      got to disagree, that stuff is covered by the multitude of 'creator' focused channels put there.
      I value how gaming focused GN is!!

    • @samgoff5289
      @samgoff5289 Год назад +2

      Nobody serious about production would buy an AMD gpu...

    • @Byvonhumpadicle
      @Byvonhumpadicle Год назад

      @@samgoff5289 Currently sure, but that situation might change in the future, it would be useful to have it reviewed, I'm not suggesting to remove the focus from gaming as clearly that's the intended audience for the card, but some people use them as double duty, or might be interested if amd can be a disruptive influence in the industry and curb Nvidias wanton pricing.

  • @foehammerone
    @foehammerone Год назад +13

    Just started watching this channel / reviews. Great review, very details, thoughtful, and straight forward. Top-tier review content.

  • @rangersmith4652
    @rangersmith4652 8 месяцев назад +4

    It's November 2023, and now, with Chinese embargoes and AI trending into the stratosphere, the 4090 is selling for $2,000 and more. That much cash can buy a viable used car, folks. Yesterday I ordered a new 7900XTX for under $900, less than half the going price of the big dog from Nvidia and roughly 3/4 the price of a 4080. Sure, $900 is still a lot for a video card, but I paid more than that for my 2080Ti, a card that's 1/2 as fast as the XTX on average. I don't play any ray tracing games, and if any RT titles ever interest me I can simply play with RT off and keep on rasterizing. The 7900XTX is probably the last graphics card I'll buy for the next four or five years.

    • @brokenhalo2001
      @brokenhalo2001 3 месяца назад

      Thinking of doing the same as i really dont give a crap about RT.

  • @scottr4086
    @scottr4086 Год назад +2

    Just wanted to say thank you for the great coverage! Looking forward to the deep dive later on

  • @bfish9700
    @bfish9700 Год назад +8

    I have a liquid freezer argb in my system almost entirely because of your review. Great to see sponsors who actually bring really great value quality products.

  • @drewmendoza2041
    @drewmendoza2041 Год назад +46

    Right on what I've expected in terms of RT performance. Great for non-RT gamers. I hope AMD continue to improve the RT performance of their GPUs. Can't wait for RT to be no longer be a huge factor when shopping for GPUs.

    • @mjkittredge
      @mjkittredge Год назад +16

      it shouldn't be a factor even today. It's in 100 games and while it looks pretty it kills frames so hard it's only worth attempting with flagship cards. In the future it will be more widespread in games but by then the technology will be improved a lot. Hopefully game devs can find a way to make it less demanding, or switch to UE5 Lumen

    • @crylune
      @crylune Год назад +3

      Never was a factor, people are just brainwashed by Jensen's garbage

    • @cjagria
      @cjagria Год назад +8

      Considering consoles uses AMD hardware, i think RT also will be optimized for AMD in next gen games

    • @Dionyzos
      @Dionyzos Год назад +5

      But do non-RT gamers really spend 1000+ bucks for that insane (often overkill) level of rasterization performance? Aren't last gen cards a way better buy for competetive players? I don't think this card and the 4080 have a significant audience. The 4090 at least delivers on every front.

    • @JuliuszMaciejewski
      @JuliuszMaciejewski Год назад

      It was never a factor, if anything it was the DLSS.

  • @Badrock27
    @Badrock27 Год назад +1

    Watching the other reviews I was ready to push the button and buy a Radeon card... Then I watched this video and the power issues that are serious for me, someone who lives in the UK and has insane energy bills. This saved me a headache. Thanks.

  • @EricTheCleric93
    @EricTheCleric93 Год назад +1

    Scoring price/performance is always appreciated. Thank you, Stephen!

  • @travisparker5632
    @travisparker5632 Год назад +9

    Excellent work from GN! This kind of in-depth review is what brings me here, especially before a major launch.

  • @angle2885
    @angle2885 Год назад +70

    Seeing my good ol 1070 on a benchmark is actually really neat.
    It's been chugging along letting me play my favorite games alright even at 1440p.
    Funny to see the 4x improvement in performance, while I still don't feel the need to upgrade.

    • @aFutureSelf
      @aFutureSelf Год назад +6

      Still rocking my 1070 as well. The games I play don't warrant an upgrade either. If i were to upgrade, a 6700 XT or 6800XT would last me another 6-8 years at a good price.

    • @fengorwolfsclaw
      @fengorwolfsclaw Год назад +13

      same goes for my 1080ti. i really want to do an upgrade but everytime i look at the prices i'm like meh it's stil rocks fine.

    • @angle2885
      @angle2885 Год назад +6

      @@fengorwolfsclaw Yep. This baby cost a much more reasonable price back in the day. And it seriously runs everything well. Only a few games don't hit my 1440p 144hz need. And no way will I shell more than 500$ for an upgrade. It's just not worth it.

    • @sodiumchlorid
      @sodiumchlorid Год назад +4

      @@fengorwolfsclaw i had luck got a evga1070 hybrid for 248 € ebay during the price-crysis and still works good for me

    • @jeffvella9765
      @jeffvella9765 Год назад +1

      latest game engines are so optimized by default that a 1070 can run almost anything with decent graphics and frames.
      I have a 1070TI and run everything on Highest with locked 50 frames per second and 100 hrz free-sync monitor.
      (your eye will not see the difference between 60 frames and 50 frames, so until you do don't fall for marketing gimmicks)
      The only reason to bump it to 120 hrz and 60 frames is if you are playing a competitive game on a network, and even then, you would be hard pressed to notice a difference.
      Your connection will always be the bottleneck before anything else.
      As long as you keep your frame rate locked you guarantee maximum performance, minimum energy consumption and increased card life.
      Keep the monitor frequency at double your locked frame rate so you have a stable 2 hrz per frame, this also improves performance and increased monitor life.
      Disable v-sync in-game because your free-sync monitor is doing the job already = max performance.
      If you are playing at a desk, you do not need 4k or a big monitor because it will hurt your neck and eyes, get a 27" or a 32".
      RT is a gimmick, what you get will never pay for the loss in performance. When it gets down to: RT ON= lose less than 10 frames start to consider it viable, else let them work on it for a few more years. + rasterization has improved a lot too, that it is hard to tell which one is which.

  • @MrMCKlebeband
    @MrMCKlebeband Год назад +2

    i like how the more affordable price class is now around 1000 bucks

  • @HeavyMetalGamingHD
    @HeavyMetalGamingHD Год назад +28

    I am now really intrigued for the partner models. The GPU is really good, but the reference model is definitely not great. But I don't expect much more performance from the partner models, but coil whine is definitely a deal breaker for me. I once had a gigabyte gtx 970 and it coil whine. Every time it went into 3d mode you could immediately hear the whine. It was infuriating. (and I have to admit I got all my money back, because of the 3.5GB memory drama and I went for a 290x instead)

    • @spankbuda5760
      @spankbuda5760 Год назад

      Why are you talking about 10 year old GTX 970 coil whine? Have you not purchased any CURRENT cards?

    • @HeavyMetalGamingHD
      @HeavyMetalGamingHD Год назад +7

      @@spankbuda5760 are you illiterate? O just used it as an example how unbearable coil whine can be. And the hint, that I was able to get a full refund might tell you (only if you can read), that it was actually back in the day.

    • @TetGodOfGames
      @TetGodOfGames Год назад

      Asus Tuf model was getting 10 fps more in cyperpunk.

    • @spankbuda5760
      @spankbuda5760 Год назад

      @@HeavyMetalGamingHD If you have to question my literacy why are you responding back to me who is questionably "illiterate"? Have you ever thought that I might be suffering from coil whine disorder?

    • @Andronicus87
      @Andronicus87 Год назад

      @@spankbuda5760 Im stil using a GTX 970 so sue me. I am finally upgrading this year and this plateau graphics are hitting is really cheapening the experience of finally getting building a new computer. Being disabled and a slave to the government sucks. I had to save up for a couple years to get 4000 bucks to spend on a new PC. I am using a 4th gen i5, the 970, 2100 DDR3 16 GB and still a mechanical SATA 3 HDD..... being poor sucks. Too bad food and electricity is more important then computer components.

  • @Imjeezus
    @Imjeezus Год назад +47

    Outside, in the rain, on the other side of the planet and Steve is still slapping around Nvidia with the facts. Love the dedication!

    • @TheRealBobbyMC
      @TheRealBobbyMC Год назад +2

      I never stop cringing at him swinging cards around in the air even without the rain.

    • @thepopeofkeke
      @thepopeofkeke Год назад

      Stock price dropped $2.63 he gave them a good tongue lashing. Nividia $163 per share AMD $63

  • @rikwisselink-bijker
    @rikwisselink-bijker Год назад +5

    The level of snark for the 8K section rivals the usual snark level of Technology Connections, and I love it.

  • @Gorlami90
    @Gorlami90 Год назад +4

    I’m happy with the 6950xt. I’ll be set for a while at 1440p.
    Once we can run native 4K with ray tracing at 160fps, maybe I’ll be interested

  • @SINISTERfromHELL
    @SINISTERfromHELL Год назад +33

    It's insane that we consider a $1000 card as a good deal.

    • @seadag
      @seadag Год назад +15

      What's insane is people are paying $1000+ for an iphone. Why is it okay for phones to be that expensive?

    • @eradam3721
      @eradam3721 Год назад +14

      @@seadag phones are actual stand alone mini computers. You can work through your phone and do 1000+ other functions. Guess what? A 1000 dollar GPU is 1000 dollar brick of plastic and other shit. Can't do anything with just a GPU. Not even a comparison.

    • @seadag
      @seadag Год назад +8

      So we can mine crypto with phones now? Maybe I can also run AAA games in 4K with my phone? Amazeballs. The only thing iphones can do is your kids can put a shrek filter on you.

    • @seadag
      @seadag Год назад +4

      Also this post is sponsored by Raid Shadow Legends, which you can play on your phone since you can't buy a decent GPU.

    • @Slav4o911
      @Slav4o911 Год назад

      It's not.... I would go for Nvidia in that case. $200 above is not that much.

  • @TheDiner50
    @TheDiner50 Год назад +60

    Just have to say. The older GPU's displayed for references in the charts are really well picked. RX 580? Vega 56? NV 1070?? Like it is so strange how in touch with the community GN is. There is some grate cards ran that gives such a good insight for comparison. Only the Arc A770 is questionable how relevant it is. But sure if suckered into buying one of them GN is here to help you to do a better purchase this time around!

    • @Fluke1x
      @Fluke1x Год назад +12

      There's data from Steam about which graphics cards are used the most. That's probably how they make relevant picks.

    • @yurisuika
      @yurisuika Год назад +3

      Kind of inferencing where my GTX 1080 lies in there has me extremely excited despite the lackluster ray tracing which I have yet to and will never use!

    • @loowick4074
      @loowick4074 Год назад +8

      @@Fluke1x it's amazing how out of touch most tech tubers are with the majority of the market since steam data literally lays it flat on what most people are using

    • @raddysurrname7944
      @raddysurrname7944 Год назад

      The Arc is probably too new to not bother with it at all.

    • @scheurkanaal
      @scheurkanaal Год назад +8

      A770 is interesting reference material as even though it's obviously in a way lower tier and has its own issues, it's still the very best Intel has to offer. That makes it relevant in its own way.

  • @MichaelBjork
    @MichaelBjork Год назад +4

    Thanks, Steve, for allowing 8k to shine in your review. Finally, it's time to upgrade my monitor.

  • @Aedrrow
    @Aedrrow Год назад +3

    thank you for showing the coil whine.
    I hope more and more people wake up and talk about it, so the gpu companys will finally do something about it...🤞

  • @bitsbfg1810
    @bitsbfg1810 Год назад +3

    I really don't see that AMD has to fight Nvidia on RT bcs one person offers RT doesn't mean they both have to. Plus a lot of folks don't play with RT I feel that is a value/production win for AMD. I would like to see AMD really push the higher 2k+ bcs there is a huge push for that and it'd be nice to see AMD really use better monitor refresh/mbps at higher rates.
    Great coverage GN as always and it was nice to hear the rainfall while broadcasting. We're really liking the change up of background in recent videos!

    • @Slav4o911
      @Slav4o911 Год назад

      If somebody is going to give $1000 for a GPU, they are not going to compromise on these things, they will push a little more and get an Nvidia RTX 4080. It's like when I had to buy my RTX 3060, it was this or an overpriced but "cheaper and slower" 3050... guess which one I choose. So if somebody have a $1000 for a GPU most people would go for a RTX 4080... and that coil whine, shows AMD have not changed their ways on poor quality. When I had an AMD card long time ago it overheated.... and I couldn't return it "because it technically worked" so most people would have a hard time to return a coil whining card. But a coil whining card for a $1000 is a new "low" for AMD.
      By the way the worst part was it didn't overheat immediately, it overheated after about 2 hours, so when I returned it they've returned the card back to me, because it was working. Back then I bought the card from a regular store (not online), and they've said the card is working and maybe the problem is with my PC/ my PC case. I've never bought anything from that store again, but that doesn't matter... I've never had such problems with an Nvidia GPU... it's very bad when something is "half working". Although nowadays I buy from more reputable stores. I wouldn't risk problems with my GPU it's the worst feeling when your "shiny new" card has a problem even if they give you back the money and everything. And coil whining is just an unbelievable problem nowadays, that means AMD has problems with QC.

    • @jmangames5562
      @jmangames5562 10 месяцев назад

      @@Slav4o911 This comment proves fanboy! BUT BUT BUT RT AND DLSS! waaaaa! The xtx smokes the 4080 in most games at raster. Fact. RT is for people who don't play games but instead zoom in to 200x to pick out clean lines bahahaha sooooo dumb!! Dlss is selling you weaker cards for more then giving you fake performance! again=FACTS! 950 right now for the xtx vs 1100 for cheapest 4080. Hard Pass to anybody who values the most native performance(real performance) over RT. Stop getting suckered into there lies and not giving you good value and performing products. I have ran AMD only since 5700xt, absolutely ZERO issues and super happy with there quality. I would only buy a 4090 of all the 40 series cards. LACK OF VRAM! I am not upgrading every 2 years more like every 6-10 and with 20gb 7900xt and 24gb 7900xtx you'd have to be crazy to buy nvidia over them again for what RT? and having to upscale?? In how many games is it even available and playable? Then you'll have to upgrade in 2-3 years minimum to play AAA new releases at ultra/high setting. Not with AMD!! And AMD always supports older cards way longer too!

  • @timgibney5590
    @timgibney5590 Год назад +8

    Thanks Steve for going over coil whine. No one seems to mention this which can ruin the experience. My Asus Strix 3080TI had this problem which thankfully went away by the 2nd month.

  • @DGBomber
    @DGBomber Год назад +15

    Thank you guys. I would love to see performance in VR for the new generation, both via cable and Air Link if you can. It's really a selling point for every VR user

    • @KevTCC
      @KevTCC Год назад +2

      Agreed. Specifically VR in sim games like DCS World.

    • @Matthew-rp3jf
      @Matthew-rp3jf Год назад +1

      Add vr and drop 1080p tests. 1440p is the new low standard.

    • @larion2336
      @larion2336 Год назад

      @@Matthew-rp3jf 1080p can still be useful for high hz competitive titles, but yeah it is pretty niche.

    • @mareksendecki5695
      @mareksendecki5695 Год назад

      I would be perfectly happy with only one, always set the same VR benchmark. Just to have something to compare different cards to

    • @HeavyMetalGamingHD
      @HeavyMetalGamingHD Год назад

      @@larion2336 but not at cards with that performance level. If you are just going for competitive high frame rate gaming this card is just way overspending. You will end up cpu bound in almost every title

  • @thenic123
    @thenic123 Год назад +4

    Are GN going to make a "Revisited" benchmarking video for 7900 xtx with updated AMD drivers, to see if they've improved like Intel for the ARC gpus?

    • @jetrpg22
      @jetrpg22 7 месяцев назад

      The 7xxx drivers are now far WORSE than they were before for about 15-20% of dx12 games. And i dont means lower fps i means totally unstable at any clock. AMD knows and doesn't care.

    • @Frashsibit
      @Frashsibit 7 месяцев назад

      @@jetrpg22 Most of the time those are user error, i and 99% of people have never had issues.

    • @jetrpg22
      @jetrpg22 7 месяцев назад

      @@Frashsibit
      Are you on a 7xxx in wow with dx12 on win 10?

    • @jetrpg22
      @jetrpg22 7 месяцев назад

      @@Frashsibit
      Also Freesync and dx12 dont play well in many games. Maybe its a win 10 associated issue? But its there none the less.

    • @Frashsibit
      @Frashsibit 7 месяцев назад

      @@jetrpg22 No i dont play that game, but nobody has in about 5 years LOL.

  • @djpquickplays1244
    @djpquickplays1244 3 месяца назад +2

    Good review but the failure to portray the importance of the extra 8GB of VRAM vs the 4080 is not going to age well...

  • @ZackVapa
    @ZackVapa Год назад +12

    Finally. The review we've been waiting for.

  • @mintydog06
    @mintydog06 Год назад +7

    Thanks for including Vega 64, as that's my card, so always great to see how it compares. Really appreciated.

  • @VagrantFox
    @VagrantFox Год назад +1

    Love the rainy background!

  • @AoyagiAichou
    @AoyagiAichou Год назад

    I just wanted to say how much I appreciate that you included older GPUs as well. Thank you! I will tighten some random screws with the GN tools today to honour this video lol