The WORST Draft Trade in Indianapolis Colts HISTORY
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Prior to the 1986 NFL Draft, the Indianapolis Colts made a trade with the New Orleans Saints so that they could move up in the draft and acquire quarterback Jim Everett. The only problem? Everett wasn't even on the board when the Colts were on the clock. And what the Colts gave up to make this trade turned out to be unexpectedly costly
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I'll always have fond memories of Everett slamming that smug idiot Jim Rome for calling him "Chris" Evert.
Can’t stand Jim Rome. That moment was pure gold
WISH SOMEBODY WOULD DO THAT TO SKIP BAYLESS, BRANDON THINERY, AND SCREAMING A SMITH
Jim Rome totally sucks.
@@russellseilhamer4552 His, "jokes," aren't funny.
@Lamont Bradford Unfortunately, attacking SAS will instantly destroy your career, because, of what they pay him.
Everett's shoulder pads make him look like a linebacker.
It was the 80s; the era of big shoulder pads.
i was thinking the same. Like how can you throw the deep ball in those pads?
He looks like a lady tennis player without them
Hell even women’s’ sweaters had big shoulder pads in the 1980s. But yes there weren’t rules that addressed size of pads so they started growing in the 1960s but around 2000 players noticed that smaller pads provided more mobility with the same protection.
Anyone remember Everett’s run in with talking head pipsqueak Jim Rome?
Jim Everett is one of my all time fave QBs. Not a HOFer by any means but very solid, I remember his leadership was instrumental in the 1988 and 89 Playoff runs. Later on, he had some solid years with the Saints. One knock on him was maybe he had nervous feet in the pocket; Jim Rome called him Chrissy. Everett knocked the dude out of his chair. That alone makes Everett a legend. Purdue also had Len Dawson. Mike Phipps was not a complete bust as some suggest, Cleveland was seriously lacking in the receiver department and their O line was aging. Phipps was a pro bowler in 1972 and led Chicago into the playoffs in 1979. Gary Danielson had a solid career too, the Redskins almost traded Theismann to get Danielson in 1981 but the deal fell through. Later on, you would have the legendary Drew Brees, a not so tall guy with absolutely deadly accuracy
And of course there was Deadspin favorite Kyle Orton too.
Purdue also produced Bob Griese, another HOF player!
You forgot about Drew Brees.
Irsay also drafted John Elway in '83. They wasted two top 4 picks in four years.
An exact 39.6 rating without throwing the ball in the ground on every play. Impressive.
Well, Mike Kofler wanted to work hard and earn his 39.6 rating with respectability (none of that spiking the ball into the ground on every single play for him!); funny thing is, he threw 2 incomplete passes in a December 22nd game that season, and that was the next time he threw a pass, so he wound up with another 39.6 rating. Also, Kofler completed all three of his passes for a touchdown in his first opportunity to play in that season, so he began his career with a 158.3 rating. Wow, it turns out that the 1985 season of Mike Kofler was sneaky fascinating, at least in terms of numbers.
What are the odds - 🥴😁.
BTW the Colts started 0-13 in '86...before stupidly winning their last 3 and costing themselves the top pick. And then trading the player they drafted (Cornelius Bennett) to the division rival Bills! They did get Eric Dickerson (it was a 3-way trade with the Rams) and somehow won the division in '87 but then three seasons after that Dickerson was gone and had worn out his welcome long before that point, while Bennett started in four straight Super Bowls and Vinny Testaverde played for 21 seasons.
Knowing Robert Irsay theres no guarantee they would've drafted well. Testaverde was considered a bust till he got to the Jets many years later
Irsay was just a dope. He was also adamant at wanting Ryan Leaf over Payton Manning. He had to be talked into Manning. As for Dowhower, he found out real fast what it was like to not have Neil Lomax at QB.
Actually Robert Irsay passed away in 1997, two years before the 99 draft, so in 1999 his son, Jim, owned the team. For years, during the 80s and early 90s, Jim had been the general manager under his dad and proved almost as incompetent. Fortunately for Colts fans, Jim wised up and hired Bill Polian to run the team and stayed out of his way. It was Polian who chose Manning over Leaf.
@@scottreed244 wasn't Polian the "who the hell is Mel Kiper Jr, anyway?" Guy?
A 39.6 passer rating should rightfully be dubbed henceforward as "the JaguarGator line."
Once again, that tiring "spike the ball on every play." What IS the passer rating of spiking the ball on every play??
39.6
I remember Pagel as a kid Cleveland Browns fan. He wasn’t a bad backup in Cleveland. Houston basically drafted Everett for veteran capital.
Another great video--I absolutely remember this moment in the NFL draft and what the Colts did. What a disaster of a move by the Colts. You make my mornings with these videos. Wonderful job laying all of this story out....and look forward to hearing you tonight on your NFL Week 1 analysis. Should be a great day. Good luck to your Jaguars!
Oh, and a QB got exactly 39.6--What are the odds? Lol :)
Jim Everett would have been far better off if he'd gone to the Colts. Ronnie Lott ruined that poor man's career.
Yes, the pick traded to the Saints was used on Pat Swilling. But, there is no guarantee that if indyNOPLACE kept the pick, they would have drafted Swilling, or if they did, Swilling would have had the same career!
The question remains: why didn't the Colts draft Chuck Long? He did eventually go 12th to Detroit... far after this pick.
For those looking for a full circle, Chuck Long and Jim Everett were teammates in Ana... Los Angeles for the underwhelming 1990 season where the Rams were a top choice preseason to make and win that year's Super Bowl.
OT, but, losing, to, the, Giants, probably, kept, George Seifert, and, Roger Craig, out of, the, HOF, if nothing else.
Because Jim Irsay was one of the worst GM's in the history of the NFL. We are talking Matt Millen levels of ineptitude
@@dezznutz3743 A family of ineptitude.
Yeah, I used Chick Long in "Tecno Super Bowl" when Everett was injured in that game; he liked to Chuck.
Definitely, 1990 was the beginning of a drought in performance for the Rams; their young players didn't develop, the veterans declined, and it can be said that the franchise lost heart after getting manhandled by the 49ers in the 1989 NFC title game.
@@gluserty Really, can't be argued.
The Colts win percentage post Baltimore\pre Manning was .395 (88-135). You dont get there without brilliant ideas. In the 92 draft the Colts had both the 1 and 2 overall picks and used them on two defensive players that netted 16.5 career sacks total between the two (Entman and Coryatt). Looking back Im shocked they took Manning over Leaf. Good thing they did or they still would be playing in the RCA Dome!
It’s Emtman and he would of had a great career if he didn’t get hurt so early in it. Any team would of drafted Emtman #1 overall that year
I once joked that Robert Irsay did all his business under the influence. This sounds like one of them.
AS A LONG TIME COLTS FAN, I can clear things up pretty quickly. The reason all of this happened was...Bob Irsay. Imagine the worst possible kind of team owner...now multiply that guy by a factor of 10 and you have Bob Irsay! He did crazy stuff all the time to undercut any chance his team had of success. NOTE: Ok, after I originally posted and went and saw that you had a video of Bob Irsay LOL. I LOVE Bob Irsay!
The whole family are a bunch of drunks that run hand in hand with Joe Biden on brain power sober.
Mike Phipps and star nearly made me choke on my cereal, but in fairness upon seeing his college stats, it was understandable. But man was he a pro stinker!
Yet, they, were, still ahead of, the, 1972 Dolphins, going into the Fourth Quarter.
And they traded Paul Warfield for the no. 3 overall draft pick they used to get him
@@anonymoususer450 That, ultimately, proved, negative.
Didn't the same thing or close to it happen with Jerry Rice? The Cowboys were ready to pick him in a similar situation & the 49ers traded up 1 spot above them and the rest is history
Good thing, the, Cowboys, would have wasted his career, especially, if he's shipped out of town, before, 1992, very, likely.
I don't think the Cowboys traded up, I think it was their earned pick. However yes Bill Walsh traded up 1 spot in front of the Cowboys to take Rice knowing they wanted him too.
@@avet4521 The, 49ers, dominated, the, Cowboys, in everything, for, a really long time.
@@matthewdaley746 I'm an 80's kid who grew up in the Bay Area, I remember.
@@avet4521 correct!
AND After the Rams let Everett go in 93 ...he signed with the SAINTS.
Still brings up the question I’ve always had, in 1994 why did the Colts trade up to take Trev Alberts?
Why didn't they go, after, a Trent Dilfer when all you have is Jim Harbaugh, gimme a break, just strange.
To piss off Mel Kiper
@@anonymoususer450 It, ultimately, was, achieved.
@@matthewdaley746 that's why the Colts were always picking #2 in the draft and not contending for the Super Bowl
@@kpk33x Laughingstock of professional football.
The Oilers played this brilliantly and ended up getting three impact players out of the Everett trade to L.A. Bravo!
Kent Hill? Haywood Jeffries? William Fuller? Spencer Tillman? Not much of an impact with those players the Oilers got. Sean Jones, who they traded the other 1st round pick from the Everett trade, was an impact player.
@@Lawomenshoops You my friend are a bozo. In case you can't spell its B-O-Z-O BOZO!
Drew Hill and Haywood Jeffires caught hundreds of passes and scored dozens of TDs. William Fuller was a poor man’s Bruce Smith, good pass rusher, great against the run. Spencer Tillman was a quality special teams player.
@@Lawomenshoops Hill and Jeffires both had multiple 1000 yard receiving seasons and were elected to multiple probowls while with the Oilers. Fuller also made a pro bowl with the Oilers and was arguably their best defensive lineman besides Jones for several years. How were they not impact players?
@@achmeez Jeffries was probably the best of those 4 WR sets they used. The only receiver among them over 5'10" I believe.
This reminds me of when the Browns traded the 4th pick, a 4th, 5th, and 7th rounder to move up to 3 to get Trent Richardson because the Vikings threatened them with other teams trying to trade up to get him.
That's way worse than this. At least the Colts were chasing a good player in the '86 Draft and still ended up with one who was at least decent. Trent Richardson?!?
@@johncate9541 well, the Colts also traded for Trent Richardson after his Cleveland stint so it all came full circle.
Once Bob Irsay passed the team to Jim and he hired a good front office, and backed off somewhat, it was a lot more exciting. They continue to be a decent franchise, winning a lot more than they lose over the years, but definitely not a premiere franchise even with Manning. They always concentrated on offense and o-line, but you must have the defense too. Ironic that Everett ended up with the Rams when Carroll Rosenbloom and Bob Irsay traded franchises, Rams for Colts because Irsay was an East Coast businessman and hated L. A.
And via Rosenbloom's widow, the two joined forces to move NFL teams off of both coasts.
So you made us drink the spike. And I bet there is barely a dry eye in Baltimore in hearing the fate that befell Irsay.
As a life long Indianapolis Colts fan from the day they reached Indy... this is painful to recall and even more to see the subsequent draft picks that turned out for the Colts and Saints as a result of the trade.
No mention of who the Saints took in the first round with the #1 pick they got- a mediocre OL Jim Dombrowski.
@ 2:55 so it seems you don't have to spike the ball into the ground on every single play to achieve 39.6...
Later on tonight we get to talk about how Rodgers in his first game action had a worse QB rating than if he would've just done nothing but spike the ball on every play.
Was this comment after their week 1 game? Lol
@@justinpettit8099 yes it was. Of course we all know that wasn't a sign of how things were to come this season a few months later lol.
That’s what the Colts get for pissing away the Elway pick.
Yep. Chrissy Everett turned out to be pretty good...lol
At least, he showed Jim Rome that he, wasn't, bluffing.
Before the Greatest Show on Turf, the likes of Jim Everett and Eric Dickerson gave the Rams some relevant glory days.
@Meligoth Like, the, Saints, they, were, tragically, in the wrong division.
@@matthewdaley746 like Moon, Cunningham to Marino, they deserved more.
@@meligoth Geography, of all things, ultimately, proved a very sinister undoing.
...VIDEO SUGGESTION (if you haven't already done one on this topic)...The horrible 1992 NFL Draft and how the Colts had the first and second overall picks and drafted two defensive prospects who, before the season was over, were both placed on injured reserve and went on to have pedestrian careers...
Are we sure Belichick wasn't working for the Oilers in '86? That's exactly the kind of thing he'd do.
That was a typical Bob Irsay move.
Damn the Colts were miserable in the pre-Manning years (except for two or three years).
Robert Irsay was an awful owner. Pretty much right there with Bill Bidwell in terms of incompetence.
Irsay was like the James Dolan of the NFL 😆
@@stuartdollar9912 Jim Irsay learned to back off and hired a great GM.
@@alfredodedarc - Do you mean Bill Polian? 🤔
@@stuartdollar9912 Bob Irsay was two shots shy of a fifth.
I was gonna make a Pagel being on the Browns joke, but the 86 Browns were solid, I"m surprised he landed on his feet
Awesome video and editing (as usual).
Do you know the story where my Bills did draft shenanigans with the Eagles?
In the 1982 draft, Perry Tuttle was a highly valued WR and the Eagles desired him. The Bills, during the draft (I think) traded with Denver, who was one slot ahead of Philly and grabbed Tuttle. I had read Vermeil was disappointed, and "settled" for Mike Quick who made 5 pro bowls and was the leading receiver for catches over a 5 year span, while Tuttle had only 25 career catches.
DO you make videos 14 hours a day? How do you find all that great film?
I've never heard that story, but Quick does color for the Eagles today on the radio broadcast. He's a beloved all-time Eagle and I listened to him and Merrill Reese broadcast SB LII (synched the local radio to the NBC broadcast because Collinsworth is awful).
An, interesting, wonderful, player.
@@jasonfullerton7763 Whenever, I'm feeling down, I watch replays of, the, Tom Brady fumble.
I remember when the Colts wore grey pants for about 4 years in early to mid 80's.
So do I, and it was a complete failure on every level.
They also tried blue pants for a few preseason games in the '90s, but never notified the NFL of the uniform change and were forced to go back to white.
35 Years Ago
10:35 “And Everett turned out to be a very solid quarterback.”
Just don’t call him Chris.
I like your content, very well-researched and a lot of cool facts that I didn't know
Yeah but the Saints gave up the only shot they would ever have to obtain a franchise quarterback out of Purdue
Worked out for the Saints with that 3rd round pick. Was able to get another piece on that Dome Patrol Defense to put with Ricky Jackson, Sam Mills, and Vaughn Johnson to make a 3-4 defense that outright scared offenses. Heck Roger Craig of the 49ers got hit so hard by one of those linebackers that he told his offensive lineman not to let that linebacker get close to him because “that dude hurts”.
That's just pathetic. Looks like Mel Kiper was right about them.
I wonder what the postman would have said if asked.
TODD!! TODD!! TODD!!
@@ericthomas917 Who The Hell Is Mel Kiper, I have to ask.
How about colts failed '90 and '92 drafts? Wasted top pick of '90 draft on coach killer jeff george he of the nice arm and ball he threw colts fell in love with. Or the '92 draft when colts had the first and second pick of the draft and ussed those picks to shore up a pourous defense taking steve emtman, nt, from uw and quentin coryatt, lb, from tx. a & m. Both ran into injury problems and never lived up to the high pick status. A what if scenario for colt fans to contemplate years later.
That whole period between after move to Indianapolis to before Peyton Manning is just pain for the Colts except for that one Jim Harbaugh season
If Emtman and Coryatt had stayed healthy and panned out, they would have been beastly on D. Ifs, right?
The Colts were coming off a '91 season in which they set the NFL record for fewest points scored in 16 games. So naturally, they spend the first two picks of the draft on D 🤣
@@Juneaupuff From '84 to '94 only three teams had a worse record than the Colts (Falcons, Cards and Bucs).
@@DolFan316 yep. so colt like. And in colts defense there was no franchise type qb in that draft to take first. d klingler at six to bengals was the highest qb taken. Not one pro bowl type of qb drafted in that draft. One of the worst drafts ever for qbs.
2:12
Art Schlichter
4th overall draft pick by The Baltimore Colts out of Ohio State in 1982
Taken ahead of Marcus Allen & Andre Tippett
0-6, but he bet the under in all six games.
Please do a video on the Jim Everett/Jim Rome interview.
There was no salary cap in 1986
1990s, brought it around.
Chris was a decent QB. 😏
Do a video on Everett's famous "phantom sack".
The Irsay's are not known for their intellect
Bill Polian said Jim Irsay was smarter than any owner in the NFL and could process in minutes what would be long discussions on why certain moves were needed. He worked practically every job coming up in the organization. And he’s not a cheap owner. He’s the complete opposite of his father. Colts have won the 4th most games in the NFL out of 32 teams since 2000.
The colts and draft picks involving qbs in the 80s don't mix
They’d have been better off drafting Chris evert LOL
With, their luck, Steffi Graf's boyfriend would stab her in the back, as well.
LOOK AT THE SIZE OF THOSE SHOULDER PADS!
This blunder would set the Colts back for a long time. I guess they shouldn't have called the Oilers' bluff even with Warren Moon in the mix.
Oddly, enough, the, Oilers, somehow, would, never, win, anything, either, odd, and, yet, not.
@@matthewdaley746 The Oilers still came out looking better because they were playoff mainstays from the late '80s through the early '90s. The Colts made the playoffs only once during that period and even then, they lost their only playoff game badly in Cleveland.
@@marcus813 The, Oilers, forgot about their defense, it killed them in the Playofffs, and, eventually, caused them to leave the state.
WELL...it did and it didn't. They somehow won the division in '87 and hovered around .500 for a few years after that which was better than the laughingstock they'd been from '81-86. But then again they didn't win a playoff game until '95.
@@DolFan316 The, Oilers, were, unfortunate.
You gotta do a video on the April 1994 ESPN interview with Jim Rome. That’s possibly the funniest interview I’ve ever seen. And I was fortunate to see it live. And the aftermath the next evening.
He absolutely deserved it.
Ah yes.... not getting Everitt, but getting Jack Trudeau instead, a dark day indeed. But to be fair, he helped the Colts to the playoffs the next year in 87
Colts must've thought they were 5 parallel universes ahead of the league thinking that.
Oh look, it's Chris Everett
Is this high pitched Eric from the Howard Stern show?
Chris Everett was still available?
Robert Irsay at his best...D'oh!
Arguably the worst NFL owner of the Super Bowl era.
My favorite Jim Everett moment was the touchdown to Flipper Anderson to beat the Giants in OT in a playoff game.
Then my Lions went on to give up the #8 pick in the draft to acquire a 30yr old pat swilling that was on the downside of his career, that #8 pick would end up being Hall of famer Wille Roaf.. Moral of the story is the Lions always find a way to be the loser even when the story isn't about them 😂🤦🏾♂️
Weirdest thing about, the, Lions, their only, Playoff, Win, was, also, the only, Playoff, Loss, for, Jimmy Johnson, with, the, Cowboys, strange.
The Irsays might be the worst ownership to win a Super Bowl.
Georgia Frontiere far, worse.
If Indianapolis drafted Jim Everett then they probably would have not taken Manning. I wonder where it would have worked out for the league with this seismic change to history. Perhaps we can get James Franco to go back in time and telling the Colts not to be so stupid about telling everybody and his brother about their intentions.
I’d of figured out a way to make that 3 round for the next draft, then coach keeps his picks that year.
Chris Evert. Lol!!!
I think it's cool that you have sponsorship now, you deserve it
The Indianapolis Colts were very unlucky with drafting quarterbacks in those days. They were forced to trade John Elway. And this Everett deal. However they did make it up when they drafted Peyton Manning.
They weren't forced to trade Elway, that was Ernie Accorsi's plan all along. He drafted Elway with the intention of trading him for a boatload of draft picks, and almost pulled it off until Bob Irsay got involved
@@leogetz3570 But Elway still got traded to the Broncos so what happened. What did Irsay do to mess that up.?
To be clear I’m not arguing the point. I would just like to know.
@@shackdaddy7106 Irsay traded for next to nothing. Accorsi had conditions on any trade that would have gave the Colts a lot more than Irsay got. If you get a chance watch the 30 for 30 special on the 1983 NFL draft, it goes into a lot of detail about it
@@leogetz3570 I will do that. Thanks.
Hey B was that the dude from The Greatest Show on Earth?
So far, you're the only football RUclipsr I've heard pronounce Art Schlichter's last name correctly. Not exactly a badge of honor, but it does marginally increase your credibility as an armchair NFL historian in my mind.
I always want to pronounce it Sc-lick-ter lol
You should listen his some of his other video where he mispronounces Schlichter’s name. There are at least two videos.
@@Lawomenshoops I haven't come across those yet, but at the rate I'm going, I'll get to them sooner or later.
and the pick the colts traded away turned out to be ...... Pat Swilling
Wait a minute
Why didn’t the colts take long then?
Rod Dowhower: the name that shall not be mentioned. #vanderbilt
Even if it's common sense, at least teams will learn from this, hopefully....
the 1st round pick the colts gave to the saints turned out to be longtime saints ot/g Jim Dombrowski
I spent my Sunday spking a football on every single play..all day...
In all fairness, I still think the draft trade for Jeff George will always goes down as the worst valued trade of all time. First, the deal to trade for the #1 pick to select Jeff George, Indy traded future all-pro WR Andre Rison, Pro Bowl OT Chris Hinton, and TWO draft picks including a future 1st round pick. Then you have to sign Jeff George to a record rookie contract of $15 mil in 1990 with a $3.5 mil.
All that.... he didn't lead the team to a playoff appearance in the four years he was there. The reason I brought up this trade was because the video showed the Colts missed out on getting Jim Everett (who the Oilers draft just so they can trade him for future 1st rounders). So the Colts learned the lesson from Everett debacle and traded a boatload of assets to get the #1 pick (even though Jeff George was considered a top 5 pick, not necessary #1 pick). Even that at the time was somewhat of a reach.. That draft trade to select Jeff George is still by far overpaying for a need.
Jimmy dancing shoes...Oh no here they come gotta get rid of the ball EVERETT..
Chris Everett
One Hall of Famer came from this draft. ONE.
Bo Jackson could have made, the, HOF, in two different sports, alas, it, wasn't, to be.
Sure Schlichter wasn't losing games ON PURPOSE??????
A, possibility, no, doubt.
This move was John Elways fault. That's who I blame for it.
Deceptive thumbnail. This was a pre-draft trade. He was NOT already taken. They hoped he'd still be there but he was not taken YET.
So they could have got their guy with another 3rd round pick but lost their guy out of stinginess?
Ted Stepien approves of this trade.
The, Lakers, eventually, got James Worthy, precisely, because, of him, (long story).
Chris Everett you say?
The Saints had two Perdue quarterbacks
Live NFL TRIVIA EVERY Monday and Wednesday night on TWITCH. The Indianapolis Colts SURE can SCREW UP the Quarterback position HUH? They WHIFFED on Elway, SCREWED UP on Everett, and TOTALLY looked STUPID with Jeff George. The ONLY times they got it RIGHT was Johnny Unitas, Bert Jones, Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck. I SWEAR that the Indianapolis Colts would be WAY BETTER OFF just SPIKING the football into the ground on EVERY single OFFENSIVE play!!!!!!!!!!
Hello Johnny Unitas and Bert Jones never played for inyNOPLACE!!
1:37 Glad to see Peyton Manning playing for the Colts while he was still in elementary school, true HoF legend
Oh I gotta see this LOL
The trade itself wasn’t bad. Letting everyone know the specific intentions was.
Not sure what’s more intellectually dishonest: contradicting the headline or implying the colts would’ve picked the same player in the third round.
Obviously the most stupid draft desion in NFL
Why didn’t the Colts take Chuck Long? He was better than Trudeau. Got the shaft in Detroit, and I’m not a Hawkeye fan.
Perfect name a qb and the most apt
Jeff George is the worst draft trade for the colts. It’s not even close. I hate that man with a passion
He, was, a, bad, QB, that, was, exponentially, worse, merely, by his Draft Position.
THOTS AND PRAYERS
Hey, #OfficialJaguarGator9 , you *mispronounced* the name of your titular subject.
But that's O.K., it happens, there's no shame in it. His name is " _Chris Evert_ ," though, and he takes the subject pretty seriously. Just ask Jim Rome.
😆
Art Schlichter (R 1; P 4) & Matt Kofler (R 2; P 48) were both drafted in the strike-shortened 1982 season. Who knows what a full rookie season could’ve done for both of them.
Art Schlichter was suspended for the entire 1983 season because of his gambling addiction (and still getting into trouble for gambling to this day.)
Matt Kofler died in December 19, 2008.