Hi Mark, very useful thanks. Just about to connect in a temp gauge in my ‘62 Moggy. I’m told it’s best to include a voltage stabiliser in the circuit. Is that really necessary?
It is quite important, else the gauge reading varies depending on the battery charge level. There is (or at least on 1098cc Minors) a stabiliser fitted to the back of the speedo (to feed the fuel gauge), so you can take the regulated 9V or so feed from there.
Takes me back by almost 40 years when all my friends were messing around with cars. One guy I knew fitted a very simular bank to his Moggy in the same location. He did not have the oil sender adaptor so he lost his oil light.
Hi mark I'm trying to do the same I'm finding it hard to acquire the adaptors for the oil and the water the motor parts shops here don't seem to know what I'm looking for or they just don't want to know here in Eire good video Great info cheers
Hi Mark, You need to wire the gauge live feed to a fused ignition switched live (which is green on a Minor) or your new gauges will only work when the sidelights are on! The gauge illumination circuit is ok on the red wire, so yr dials light up with the sidelights.
Hi Steve. Thanks for your comment I wired them into the back light switch thinking it would be ignition fed and not powered off the lights. I have since wired them straight to the ignition circuit and the back lighting is now on the light switch as you say. Thanks for watching
Reminds me ofvtbe time I replaced the coolant temp sensor on my escort. I wrapped the new sensor in ptfe tape so it wouldn't leak! Needless to say the temperature gauge didn't work at all. Took it to my local garage who spotted my mistake instantly and rectified it free of charge. That was the day I learned about negative grounding on cars.
Hi mark I’ve just done this on my moggy I had the exact same issue with the oil pressure fitting needed to be longer. My water temperature not working to good I think its the waterless coolant I have. Great video good to see the moggy all gauged up 👍
Why did you not fit the water temperature adapter to the back of the head where the heater hose take off point is? Because the rear of the head is where the greatest heat is normally! I mounted all my gauges in the drives side glovebox cover & used copper capillary tubing from the sender unit connection & rolled the tubing around a bottle to take out any vibrations between the engine & the solid chassis! Having all the gauges in the glovebox cover saved my knees in an accident!
Thanks for your comment Dave. My heater valve is seized so there is no flow there but I think when I fix it, that's a good idea to relocate it there. Sorry to hear about your accident
Is the stock water temperature sender point not just blocked off with a bolt? That is where you want to be measuring temperature, rather than the bottom hose. Should be just below thermostat housing on spark plug side of the head.
@@MarksWheels Definitely on the head, if you look at the right hand end of the engine number plinth next to the water pump, just look up about an inch. Possible BMC didn't drill and tap the location on engines destined for cars without a gauge, but I reckon more likely the redundant hole was just plugged with a bolt.
Apologies for that. To be honest i wired it in to the dash light switch as it was getting late and i wanted it to check it all worked. I have since wired to one of the spade terminals on the back of the starter switch for ignition. The earth can go anywhere at all that is metal.
Here are the parts i used in the video: Gauges - www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B08V1HSL67/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Water temperature sensor block - www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07K86SN3N?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details Oil pressure adaptor - www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0B3CLTG1L?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
Hi Mark! Thanks for this. I’m doing the exact same job. Can you tell me if the oil pressure T piece you’ve linked to is the one you used? Or is it a longer one? It looks like the Amazons one has the NPT thread on the side rather than on the end. Thanks!
@@MarksWheels After some asking around on the MMOC I decided to go with a modified oil filter pickup banjo bolt (I think it's from a Mini?). Hopefully, that'll give a bit more working space. Fingers crossed!
Hi Mark, very useful thanks. Just about to connect in a temp gauge in my ‘62 Moggy. I’m told it’s best to include a voltage stabiliser in the circuit. Is that really necessary?
I haven't used one and don't have any problems. It might be different with a dynamo but im not sure.
It is quite important, else the gauge reading varies depending on the battery charge level. There is (or at least on 1098cc Minors) a stabiliser fitted to the back of the speedo (to feed the fuel gauge), so you can take the regulated 9V or so feed from there.
@@FMFGUF Perfect, thanks for the tip.
Takes me back by almost 40 years when all my friends were messing around with cars. One guy I knew fitted a very simular bank to his Moggy in the same location. He did not have the oil sender adaptor so he lost his oil light.
I did consider not having the light but I figured I'd rather have it too just incase I didn't notice the gauge while driving. Thanks for watching
Hi mark I'm trying to do the same I'm finding it hard to acquire the adaptors for the oil and the water the motor parts shops here don't seem to know what I'm looking for or they just don't want to know here in Eire good video Great info cheers
Water temperature sensor block - www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07K86SN3N Oil pressure adaptor - www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0B3CLTG1L
Hi Mark,
You need to wire the gauge live feed to a fused ignition switched live (which is green on a Minor) or your new gauges will only work when the sidelights are on!
The gauge illumination circuit is ok on the red wire, so yr dials light up with the sidelights.
Hi Steve. Thanks for your comment I wired them into the back light switch thinking it would be ignition fed and not powered off the lights. I have since wired them straight to the ignition circuit and the back lighting is now on the light switch as you say.
Thanks for watching
Great to see the Moggie back and a great helpful video!
Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching
Reminds me ofvtbe time I replaced the coolant temp sensor on my escort. I wrapped the new sensor in ptfe tape so it wouldn't leak! Needless to say the temperature gauge didn't work at all. Took it to my local garage who spotted my mistake instantly and rectified it free of charge. That was the day I learned about negative grounding on cars.
Lol thanks for watching Garath
Hi mark I’ve just done this on my moggy I had the exact same issue with the oil pressure fitting needed to be longer. My water temperature not working to good I think its the waterless coolant I have. Great video good to see the moggy all gauged up 👍
Thanks for watching Sean
Yes!! Moggie! Love your video series on this, been so helpful to me with my barn find resto 👏🏼
Glad to hear that Billy. Thanks so much for watching
Why did you not fit the water temperature adapter to the back of the head where the heater hose take off point is? Because the rear of the head is where the greatest heat is normally!
I mounted all my gauges in the drives side glovebox cover & used copper capillary tubing from the sender unit connection & rolled the tubing around a bottle to take out any vibrations between the engine & the solid chassis!
Having all the gauges in the glovebox cover saved my knees in an accident!
Thanks for your comment Dave. My heater valve is seized so there is no flow there but I think when I fix it, that's a good idea to relocate it there. Sorry to hear about your accident
Had trouble with the temp sensor.Went straight to max.Got another one.Hovers around midway.Then goes a bit higher on hot days
Could be about right. They don't always sit smack bang in the middle
Mark why didn't you fit the temp sender unit into the block.Mine has a blanking nut on the side of the head near the thermostat .
Oh, Mine doesnt seem to have that blanking plug
Mine's a 67 1098.Maybe earlier ones didn't have them.
Mark when I start from cold oil pressure goes immediately to 80 then starts to drop 60 when warming up.
Thats a bit strange!
but cold u have high pressure(reading)thick oil, when it warms up it drops unless u rev it the pump should give it some it does on my triumph bike
Is the stock water temperature sender point not just blocked off with a bolt?
That is where you want to be measuring temperature, rather than the bottom hose.
Should be just below thermostat housing on spark plug side of the head.
I will have a look. I thought the stock position was in the thermostat housing. Thanks for commenting
@@MarksWheels Definitely on the head, if you look at the right hand end of the engine number plinth next to the water pump, just look up about an inch. Possible BMC didn't drill and tap the location on engines destined for cars without a gauge, but I reckon more likely the redundant hole was just plugged with a bolt.
@@matthewjenkins1161 Indeed, it is, on later 1098cc Minors, at least.
I would of liked to see how you wired it at the back and exactly where you earthed it, you brushed over it to quickly for beginners like me.
Apologies for that. To be honest i wired it in to the dash light switch as it was getting late and i wanted it to check it all worked. I have since wired to one of the spade terminals on the back of the starter switch for ignition. The earth can go anywhere at all that is metal.
Where did you get the oil adapter, water temp gauge?
Here are the parts i used in the video:
Gauges - www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B08V1HSL67/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Water temperature sensor block - www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07K86SN3N?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
Oil pressure adaptor - www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0B3CLTG1L?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
Hi Mark. Do you know if the aftermarket gauges would be suitable for a positive earth Morris Minor . ...really enjoy your posts 👍
Hi, I'm not sure about that. In theory yes they should work but I'd check with the manufacturer first. Thanks for watching
Hi Mark! Thanks for this. I’m doing the exact same job. Can you tell me if the oil pressure T piece you’ve linked to is the one you used? Or is it a longer one? It looks like the Amazons one has the NPT thread on the side rather than on the end. Thanks!
Hi. Yes the one i linked is the one i used but the job would have been soooo much easier with a longer one.
@@MarksWheels After some asking around on the MMOC I decided to go with a modified oil filter pickup banjo bolt (I think it's from a Mini?). Hopefully, that'll give a bit more working space. Fingers crossed!
@@morrisminormaurice that's a good idea. I'll pin this comment so others can see
Yay! Moggie magic!
Thanks for watching sifi
You lost me Mark when you started on the oil sensor with a 10” shifter….. 😅
lol