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I would recommend the Wind Serpent for PvP, dropping flanking strike, and picking up kill command. It’s lightning breath has a 20 yard range, and hits for 140, 125, 110 with kill command.. then about 90 without, and that’s with chimera gloves and spec’d as marksmen. I find it’s more useful than flanking strike, because I’m usually very good at kiting, and staying out of range.
The point I was trying to make is that you want to use flanking strike then raptor strike because you get that 20% chance for flanking , raptor , flanking
The reset is related to the damage bonus, because it stacks the bonus damage up to +30%, only if you get a reset within 10 seconds of flanking will you have a chance. I’ve never gotten past 20% tho honestly.
Probably late to the party but u can also get charge 3 from the boars in RFK. they are armored boars so their design looks cooler and some of them are lvl 24 and 25. No need to go get bellygrub if you are horde and there's always groups farming RFK so if u tell them u wanan tame one they will help you.
/petattack all abilities put it first so your pet moves to tar.. i use it with /cast hunters mark/ cast pet attack ... leave pet on passive so you can tar switch and recall easily mark healers and have boar charge then when charge is off cd switch back to og tar
I made my own build 0/9/7... 5 imp concussive, 4 lethal shots. 3 humanoid slaying , 2 deflection, 5 savage strikes. Lion, chimera (for disarm especially), and flanking strike. I make sure my pet is dismissed. Find a nice place to hunt, shadowmeld and wait for prey. Open with call pet Auto shot pet attack macro. Serpent or scorpid situation depending. Then chimera, concussive (hopefully stun procs) close the gap. Flanking strike & raptor strike macro. Wing clip. Ideally this ends up in a kill but things never really go that smoothly in PVP. You could just not use a pet at all, but still keep Lion, unless you want a severe handicap with lone wolf which is worse than useless (because you lose 20% stats) anyway it's my finger to the meta and all the people in week one with the "why aren't you beast mastery?" Cause it's boring and gives the meta bandwagon a carry that they use to act like they're actually good and to grief.
@@AnthonyCarrion-wk9ng and 5+5=10 lol I screwed that up but only meant to convey it's maxxed for 20%.. with the proper 2 points it equals the 0/9/7 I claimed tho!
Maybe youll see this. But what are your thoughts on going for the tailoring boots over the lw gloves for the 30% damage reduction plus SP which affects our serpent sting thus affecting the chimera boost from it as well?
I know they recently nerfed it a bit, but lightning breath scales with Ranged Attack Power and is only modified by Spell Power by 0.5, meaning if you had +8 Spell Power the lightning breathe would only add +4. Don’t think it’s a big enough trade off to go boots , gloves would still be better
What I meant is that it’s not as obvious than the horde choices I wouldn’t say dwarves are clearly better , being able to kite out of a fight and get extra ticks of food while in shadowmeld is really good for group PvP
i think Flanking Strike is best because it gives us more options when a player get to us in melee. Hunter's main job is to try not to let players get on to them, but that wont always be the case and its nice to have that extra ability to do more dmg for when they do. If you are running w Wind Serpent using Kill Command could be another option, but they other 2 runes really will not be used that much in PvP. @@BeefStakewithButterandGarlic
@@Western_TV Great insight! I find myself helpless when they get to me many times and a few good strikes with this could even scare them away from you. I'm curious to test the Kill Command too thanks!
@BeefStakewithButterandGarlic keeping space between melee in PvP is the hardest part for hunters. Best way to get better is duel as many melee as you can , so you can get comfortable
It’s general like if the person was standing still. Usually circumstances change if they run away, you have cooldowns , etc. But a good way to practice is grab the addon Details and hit mobs with a rotation, that way you can practice what works best for you. A main point I was trying to get across is that you want to auto attack as much as possible, because a majority of our dmg comes from that
@@Western_TV thank you Western. But for example, some use Auto attack Like 4 times and some only once, follwed by aimed shot or serpent sting. There Must be a general System behind that which I still dont understand. Think a Video about that topic would be highly appreciated
I agree, I’m also running with the boar in pvp just because it has charge. What’s the point of the higher damage of a scorpid if it’s literally can’t get to the target 😅 Later on when your pets can learn dash, you can switch to a cat, an owl etc. but right now I think boar is bis
my dilemma is.... the Chest rune.... Master Marksman is juicy as you suggested 5% crit and mega reduction to mana costs, however Aspect of the Lion is 20% stat increase for hunter and 10% stat buff to all raid/party! ... how are we not required to use it for raid ignore me, this is pvp guide :P
what about the cobra strikes paired with scorpion and marksman. Did you test that? - For PvP. For PvE Aspect of the Lion is a no brainer :)@@Western_TV
@Mjaru7 at 25 I don’t think we have enough agi for aspect of lion to be better than master marksman in PvE fights. 5% crit is crazy. I havent tried cobra strikes
More utility w scorpid sting which disarms enemy, and does more single target dmg w serpent sting and saves the refresh mana Explosive is good for Ashenvale PvP for sure But I’d say chimera is better for solo / bg PvP
Chimera does way more damage than explosive, it’s on its own CD, and If you use explosive, you can’t use aimed shot. aimed shot fits perfectly between auto shots too, and does more damage than explosive as well. Explosive is crap for PvP.
I just have a little question , to think about it. Would aspect of the lion would be better in battleground , instead of the marksman rune? Maybe it will be better if you know your team si good and you are maybe premades, and go marksman if you are solo. What do you think about it? ( my whole idea was that , yes crit and mana reduc is fine , but i think its kinda selfish , but the aspect boosts so much stats on your team) . Would love to hear your opinion on the topic
dude a rogue try to roll on the epic xbow when it dropped and he wasnt kidding literally has 0 stats for rogue other than big dmg from xbow smh @@Qstorm88
Sniper Training for legs and master marksman for chest usually doesn’t change unless raid needs aspect of lion. I use chimera shot for single target and explosive for aoe targets, but I do need to try beast mastery + kill command w the scorpion
its a tradeoff and depends on your playstyle i like boars because the root makes it so we only need 2 sec of leeway for aimed shot , it also catches players that you are trying to chase down scorpids are good for constant dmg
Mhmm i also like mm more but i guess bm with all runes fot it and that Windsurpent is so fucking good... that fucking pet csn cast 3 times with the command and kills littlery everything with is at 20 yards... very good idk is mm can handle that dmg, maybe eith bis weapon, all mele pets are dog bit the serpent... idk tbh but nice video and thanks for all infos!!! Keep going and gimme more hunter sod stuff
for pve it looks like BM is the way to go, but for PvP im literally in a group of 6 hunters for a wsg premade and im toping dmg/kills. BUT i do have BiS XBow i think its worth it to go MM if you have pre-raid bis weapon and definitely if you have BiS XBow and for Alliance its super easy to get pre-raid BiS w Raptor's End, which is only a short 3 part quest in Wetlands
@@Western_TV All pvp weapon skill is automatically considered to be at LVLX5 maxed. You could have a fury warrior that never used a 2hand axe in its life, go arms for some PVP and you wouldn't see the difference in skill as your best weapons in PVE
ok man i reached 10.000 hk in 2009,gonna give you some tips right of the bat..... first of all...when i see the first 10 sec i see im looking at a noob. so here are the stips: Keybinds,1234567890 is very bad. i have buttons like: mouse button-5,shift+mouse-buttont-5,q,e,shift-q-e,123,z,x,shift x,scroll up,shift scroll up so on... disengage is shift+scroll back,for me. (super handy) so keybinds.....change keybinds to something that suits you. again 1234567890 bad,qezxcfrv123,scroll up,scroll down,extra button on mouse,and shift/control combos. good :) macros....ive changed my dps from 15k,to 40 k in one day,just by setting up some macros. (yesterday) some skills are instant,and dont have shared cooldowns,macro them...(like trinkets and items,and some special ability's.) a simple macro is arcaneshot(cooldown) + countershot(instant-2min?),or exileration(instant-2min),survival of the fittests(instant-2min),+ optional a potion(instant-5min). (shared action cooldown+(instant-cooldown),good combo.) go pro! (this will also half your skills you need to remember) click and forget traps,/cast [@player]freezing trap. im marksman,so your setup could be different. youll also have way more fun as hunter....and if you and old school kite'r ,youll even be able to semi-tank with mail armor. to kite: pull a lot ,but not get hit...agility :P (your main stat) croud control. train on wild life as a final tip...try to pull a small mob and survive... go to the limit...of what you and your pet can tank...while evading attacks. if there out of range, or your not in front of them ,they cant hit you. (bunny hop lolz(jump like a bunny around your target)) cast misdirection [@pet] macro, make your pet the tank. ( for easy mode) garanteed,that if you follow this little guide, youll get addicted to hunter. but in theory you can apply it to any class. just for some
⚠❗Joanna's Leveling Addon + Guide❗⚠ :
Use this if you need help leveling
www.joanasworld.com/wotlk-guide2.php
⭐Perfect for ⭐:
🔴 Most Efficient Leveling Path ☠
🔴 Learning Speed Leveling 🏃
🔴 Leveling Multiple Alts 🧙♂🧌🤺
Pretty good/chill guide for new players and people who forgot some stuff. I enjoyed listening and the style you presented. Good job
Thanks for that man 🙏 hope you are enjoying SOD
I would recommend the Wind Serpent for PvP, dropping flanking strike, and picking up kill command. It’s lightning breath has a 20 yard range, and hits for 140, 125, 110 with kill command.. then about 90 without, and that’s with chimera gloves and spec’d as marksmen. I find it’s more useful than flanking strike, because I’m usually very good at kiting, and staying out of range.
It says it only works for rake and bite
Kill command only increases bite and claw skills .
Thanks for the guide! As an ex Rogue main i wanted to Hunter and see how i go and im so impressed by the Hunter class in general.
It’s in a super fun spot , hope you like it 🔥
I like the ff8 remixed music u used for your video
4:00 Correction: Raptor Strike can refresh Flanking strike at any time within its 30sec cooldown, as the reset is unrelated to the damage bonus.
The point I was trying to make is that you want to use flanking strike then raptor strike because you get that 20% chance for flanking , raptor , flanking
The reset is related to the damage bonus, because it stacks the bonus damage up to +30%, only if you get a reset within 10 seconds of flanking will you have a chance. I’ve never gotten past 20% tho honestly.
Good Guide! Thank you, keep going
Thanks man , hope you are having fun in SOD 🔥
Probably late to the party but u can also get charge 3 from the boars in RFK. they are armored boars so their design looks cooler and some of them are lvl 24 and 25. No need to go get bellygrub if you are horde and there's always groups farming RFK so if u tell them u wanan tame one they will help you.
Good call 🔥 I’m using the armor boar and didn’t even notice it had rank 3 charge hah
Great guide!
🙏🙏🙏
how can i find the music you use? I want to play it. nostalgia blast!
The first song is Awakening from FFVI and the rest of the songs are in the videos description!
/petattack all abilities put it first so your pet moves to tar.. i use it with /cast hunters mark/ cast pet attack ... leave pet on passive so you can tar switch and recall easily mark healers and have boar charge then when charge is off cd switch back to og tar
I made my own build 0/9/7... 5 imp concussive, 4 lethal shots. 3 humanoid slaying , 2 deflection, 5 savage strikes. Lion, chimera (for disarm especially), and flanking strike. I make sure my pet is dismissed. Find a nice place to hunt, shadowmeld and wait for prey. Open with call pet Auto shot pet attack macro. Serpent or scorpid situation depending. Then chimera, concussive (hopefully stun procs) close the gap. Flanking strike & raptor strike macro. Wing clip. Ideally this ends up in a kill but things never really go that smoothly in PVP. You could just not use a pet at all, but still keep Lion, unless you want a severe handicap with lone wolf which is worse than useless (because you lose 20% stats) anyway it's my finger to the meta and all the people in week one with the "why aren't you beast mastery?" Cause it's boring and gives the meta bandwagon a carry that they use to act like they're actually good and to grief.
how do you put 5 points into savage strikes, its only 2 points.
Love anything that’s not BM
@@AnthonyCarrion-wk9ng and 5+5=10 lol I screwed that up but only meant to convey it's maxxed for 20%.. with the proper 2 points it equals the 0/9/7 I claimed tho!
ah gotcha!!
@@zinxderobo
Maybe youll see this. But what are your thoughts on going for the tailoring boots over the lw gloves for the 30% damage reduction plus SP which affects our serpent sting thus affecting the chimera boost from it as well?
I know they recently nerfed it a bit, but lightning breath scales with Ranged Attack Power and is only modified by Spell Power by 0.5, meaning if you had +8 Spell Power the lightning breathe would only add +4.
Don’t think it’s a big enough trade off to go boots , gloves would still be better
I'd say 30% reduced dmg is the best thing you could have in pvp. The 10% attack speed might add 100 dmg vs being able to tank an extra few 100s
How is there no standout racial between night elves and dwarves? Stoneform is broken, you cant meld abilities in classic
What I meant is that it’s not as obvious than the horde choices
I wouldn’t say dwarves are clearly better , being able to kite out of a fight and get extra ticks of food while in shadowmeld is really good for group PvP
very nice video thank you
Thanks for that 👊
@@Western_TV what is your opinion on flanking strike rune do you think there is alternative for people who don't want to deal with melee?
i think Flanking Strike is best because it gives us more options when a player get to us in melee. Hunter's main job is to try not to let players get on to them, but that wont always be the case and its nice to have that extra ability to do more dmg for when they do.
If you are running w Wind Serpent using Kill Command could be another option, but they other 2 runes really will not be used that much in PvP.
@@BeefStakewithButterandGarlic
@@Western_TV Great insight! I find myself helpless when they get to me many times and a few good strikes with this could even scare them away from you. I'm curious to test the Kill Command too thanks!
@BeefStakewithButterandGarlic keeping space between melee in PvP is the hardest part for hunters. Best way to get better is duel as many melee as you can , so you can get comfortable
Can you explain your Rotation? How do you calculate it? Thsnk you so much ❤
It’s general like if the person was standing still. Usually circumstances change if they run away, you have cooldowns , etc.
But a good way to practice is grab the addon Details and hit mobs with a rotation, that way you can practice what works best for you.
A main point I was trying to get across is that you want to auto attack as much as possible, because a majority of our dmg comes from that
@@Western_TV thank you Western. But for example, some use Auto attack Like 4 times and some only once, follwed by aimed shot or serpent sting. There Must be a general System behind that which I still dont understand. Think a Video about that topic would be highly appreciated
What about scorpion pet? Its literally melting right now
It’s good dps, but I still think boars root is >>>> better
The scorp has gotta get nerfed. No way does this last (I hope… I don’t wanna drop my cat )
Scorpids are over hyped
I still haven’t seen a scorpid hunter do more dmg than me and I also hate relying on pet for damage
I agree, I’m also running with the boar in pvp just because it has charge. What’s the point of the higher damage of a scorpid if it’s literally can’t get to the target 😅
Later on when your pets can learn dash, you can switch to a cat, an owl etc. but right now I think boar is bis
@timurgaripov6240 🔥 the charge also helps for aimed shots , they get pissed
I got as pet the Death Layer , very Strong Scorpid
Ya a lot of ppl love that hahah
Great guide! I’m nervous about trying to get bellygrub😂 it seems like a huge challenge as a horde. I’m sure alliance are camping it.
Sounds like a fun challenge :P come from the north side and you can for sure sneak it
As horde it took me a couple of hours to tame Bellygrub haha but it was fun tho
lol secret agent stuff 🕵️♂️
BattlegroundTargets Classic - Addon for classics version of BGE
there were like 99 version when i saw, haha ill for sure try this one. thanks man 🙏
how did you get the camera to zoom out that far?
Search for camera in settings and it should give you an option to max camera. Then find the key you have to zoom out !
my dilemma is.... the Chest rune.... Master Marksman is juicy as you suggested 5% crit and mega reduction to mana costs, however Aspect of the Lion is 20% stat increase for hunter and 10% stat buff to all raid/party! ... how are we not required to use it for raid
ignore me, this is pvp guide :P
For raids and there is no one w kings, for sure its better to buff everyone w lion
But the marksman does give you a ton of burst potential !
what about the cobra strikes paired with scorpion and marksman. Did you test that? - For PvP. For PvE Aspect of the Lion is a no brainer :)@@Western_TV
@Mjaru7 at 25 I don’t think we have enough agi for aspect of lion to be better than master marksman in PvE fights. 5% crit is crazy.
I havent tried cobra strikes
Why Chimera Shot over Explosive Shot?
More utility w scorpid sting which disarms enemy, and does more single target dmg w serpent sting and saves the refresh mana
Explosive is good for Ashenvale PvP for sure
But I’d say chimera is better for solo / bg PvP
@@Western_TV I've been trying it out and it does more dps for the most part ATM
Chimera does way more damage than explosive, it’s on its own CD, and If you use explosive, you can’t use aimed shot. aimed shot fits perfectly between auto shots too, and does more damage than explosive as well. Explosive is crap for PvP.
@@savrickgaming4173 I’ve been using it since I made the original comment and everything you said is 100% accurate
I just have a little question , to think about it. Would aspect of the lion would be better in battleground , instead of the marksman rune? Maybe it will be better if you know your team si good and you are maybe premades, and go marksman if you are solo. What do you think about it? ( my whole idea was that , yes crit and mana reduc is fine , but i think its kinda selfish , but the aspect boosts so much stats on your team) . Would love to hear your opinion on the topic
100% agree w you, if there are 2 hunters try to convince them to use lion that way you can use marksman :P
i always point out that the bm hunter should use lion to let me MM since i'd get the most out of it
🔥🔥
Are you playing SOD?
Yeah, I've gone to the Darkside. Maining Rogue. I have a hunter alt though, hoping for the melee dream in later phases.@@Western_TV
@Qstorm88 I hope they bring out harpoon from retail
dude a rogue try to roll on the epic xbow when it dropped and he wasnt kidding
literally has 0 stats for rogue other than big dmg from xbow
smh
@@Qstorm88
@@Western_TV WOW really!?? 😳
As broken as warlocks meta is and ret paladin divine storm they still nerf hunters sadage.
As a priest, I love that we're flying under your radar.
I recently made a priest and loving the buffs , should be fun 😂
The sad part is it means Hunters will be weak af at 60. They needed their buffs to stay relevant later on.
we will see what Blizz adds, only hope it doesnt stay a BM meta@@az9498
Getting leatherworking to 100 cost me less than 1g, no reason not to get professions.
Ya I’m thinking I barley use mining anyways, you might be right
Nice but where is the macro ?
In my discord, link in description!
If u Raid or dungeon do u change any rune?
Sniper Training for legs and master marksman for chest usually doesn’t change unless raid needs aspect of lion. I use chimera shot for single target and explosive for aoe targets, but I do need to try beast mastery + kill command w the scorpion
@@Western_TV i was a bm but im bored to be passive 😎
@@Western_TV kill command does not work with scorpid no more.
I thought scorpions were best pet even after nerf?
its a tradeoff and depends on your playstyle
i like boars because the root makes it so we only need 2 sec of leeway for aimed shot , it also catches players that you are trying to chase down
scorpids are good for constant dmg
Deffo not now they got nerfed again and are dead af
Mhmm i also like mm more but i guess bm with all runes fot it and that Windsurpent is so fucking good... that fucking pet csn cast 3 times with the command and kills littlery everything with is at 20 yards... very good idk is mm can handle that dmg, maybe eith bis weapon, all mele pets are dog bit the serpent... idk tbh but nice video and thanks for all infos!!! Keep going and gimme more hunter sod stuff
for pve it looks like BM is the way to go, but for PvP im literally in a group of 6 hunters for a wsg premade and im toping dmg/kills. BUT i do have BiS XBow
i think its worth it to go MM if you have pre-raid bis weapon and definitely if you have BiS XBow
and for Alliance its super easy to get pre-raid BiS w Raptor's End, which is only a short 3 part quest in Wetlands
just an FYI, weapon skill is normalized in PvP so racial skill increases are a non-factor
Is that BGs? Or WPvP too? I’ve never heard that
@@Western_TV All pvp weapon skill is automatically considered to be at LVLX5 maxed.
You could have a fury warrior that never used a 2hand axe in its life, go arms for some PVP and you wouldn't see the difference in skill as your best weapons in PVE
As far as i know , you still need weapon skill maxed for the crit chance
You need to pay for joanas Guide or Not?
First 12 levels are free , but have to pay for rest
@@Western_TV how much is it?
not 100% sure the prices are in the link. i know he has a $5 a month subscription tier tho @@A.grauer
Eh Marksman is way more fun but the truth is BM is BiS right now.
Still? What pet now ?
@@madlad4687still scorpid. You go bm and you dont need tamed boar. Autor casual af.
Check out my new short , literally 4 hunters w Scorpid , me w boar, I got more killing blows and dmg by double
No it’s not
Check out my new short , there were 4 hunters in bg w scorpids and I did more dmg and got more kills by double the amt
Races not elf
I hate you for using the best FF6 song ever.
i recently played it for the first time and that song was on repeat for months lol
Good video
🙏
so low
does a pvp guide, plays alliance. lol the irony.
Ally BiS 😇
You dont need a guide for hunter pvp to be ez mode. Just start auto shoot.
😂 w the new Xbow you might not be wrong
Pvp at this level is sooo boring!!!!!!
Hahah ya something wrong w me, I love it
good video, just concerned that youre wasting your talent in that roach guild. Your knowledge is better off elsewhere.
lol , some I presume are good ppl xD
ok man i reached 10.000 hk in 2009,gonna give you some tips right of the bat.....
first of all...when i see the first 10 sec i see im looking at a noob.
so here are the stips:
Keybinds,1234567890 is very bad.
i have buttons like: mouse button-5,shift+mouse-buttont-5,q,e,shift-q-e,123,z,x,shift x,scroll up,shift scroll up so on...
disengage is shift+scroll back,for me. (super handy)
so keybinds.....change keybinds to something that suits you.
again 1234567890 bad,qezxcfrv123,scroll up,scroll down,extra button on mouse,and shift/control combos. good :)
macros....ive changed my dps from 15k,to 40 k in one day,just by setting up some macros. (yesterday)
some skills are instant,and dont have shared cooldowns,macro them...(like trinkets and items,and some special ability's.)
a simple macro is arcaneshot(cooldown) + countershot(instant-2min?),or exileration(instant-2min),survival of the fittests(instant-2min),+ optional a potion(instant-5min).
(shared action cooldown+(instant-cooldown),good combo.)
go pro! (this will also half your skills you need to remember)
click and forget traps,/cast [@player]freezing trap.
im marksman,so your setup could be different.
youll also have way more fun as hunter....and if you and old school kite'r ,youll even be able to semi-tank with mail armor.
to kite: pull a lot ,but not get hit...agility :P (your main stat) croud control.
train on wild life as a final tip...try to pull a small mob and survive...
go to the limit...of what you and your pet can tank...while evading attacks.
if there out of range, or your not in front of them ,they cant hit you.
(bunny hop lolz(jump like a bunny around your target))
cast misdirection [@pet] macro, make your pet the tank. ( for easy mode)
garanteed,that if you follow this little guide, youll get addicted to hunter.
but in theory you can apply it to any class.
just for some
🔥
I wish he is from future) give hunters in sod all this abilities))
The only ability I think hunters need is disengage jump and harpoon
Holy that would be intense