KTM 990 Adventure vs 790 Adventure
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- The KTM 990 Adventure has been dubbed as the best big adventure bike in the world, despite various new models taking the stand from everyone including the likes of the KTM 1050, 1090, 1190 and 1290 Adventures. But has the new kid, the KTM 790 Adventure, taken that crown?
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The 950/990 advs are just the sexiest looking bikes ever...to my eyes!!
Agree! And I even don't have a KTM, or ever did.
Agree!
Fully agree as a pround owner of a KTM 990 adv MY2009
I just bought a 2004 950 Adv S with the blue/orange GOOO!!! design.
10/10 would agree
Problem is, I don't have my A license until next year .__.
o0Bananaphone0o itll be worth waiting for!!
I own a 990 Adventure R and that bike runs like a dream. Strong, huge torque, feels light and manageable unlike the BMWs or bigger KTMs, faster than you'll ever need on a paved road and goes anywhere with those massive 6 gallon tanks if you know how to ride it. If you want electronics just get a Garmin Zumo for couple hundreds and you'll have all you need.
back in 2014-2015 i rode a 990r, one of coolest bikes i ever rode to this day. However, it was a good 30-40kg heavier than my more utilitarian f800gs and felt it.
From a pure vanity standpoint the 990 looks sooo much better.
2006-2012 was peak KTM aesthetics
Totally agree!! I’m looking at buy a new bike next year. It may well be the 790R but I’ll definately take a 2019 990 if I can find one just because it looks so good!
Last production 990 is 2013 r model
Agreed the 950-990 are a lot better bike!
My 990 adv is now 11 years old, single owner. Just had Jason and Mark in Hemel Hempstead refurbish it and have fallen for it all over again.
Would really like to see a proper comparison: on road, off road, brakes, acceleration tests, comfort etc.
Why is this necessary? 790 beats the 990 in every aspect. Why would KTM build a worse bike
Yes me too. KTM got a lot of things right with the 990.
The most important test is reliability. I assume newer is more reliable.
@@pepperthepep So easy: to save money!!! For instance a V motor costs way more to be engineered and produced.
The big irony is that the 990 is everything the Yamaha Ténéré 700 is; no electronics apart from switchable ABS, tall, good power, good suspension. They even weigh the same (more or less).
The T7 is also a cheaply made bike. Wet sump, nothing special about the frame or design, under powered, and in Australia they will be around $16,000. That's no cheap price. The KTM 1090 is not far off in weight and way more go.
I get what you're saying and I think Yamaha did an outstanding job, but after a test ride on the Yamaha I was left feeling....nothing special really. It's a good bike, it actually looks good, the riding position was perfect apart from that stupid bulge right where your braking foot needs to be, the throttle response made it easy to ride, the suspension was ok I guess, nothing special.....all in all a bike you could strap luggage to and ride off to wherever you want to go. But it didn't make me smile or laugh. It didn't evoke any emotion. I ride a DR650, a frigging dinosaur compared to the T700, but it's so much more fun. And you'd be hard pressed to find someone who doesn't come off a 950 with a big shit eating grin. I've ridden my buddy's 950 Adventure on several occasions and I remember each one, because I thought 'this bike is RIDICULOUS. I NEED ONE'.
209 kg dry ktm 990...205 wet yamaha how is that the same weight??
vwsyncro Amen brother
@@Kaegis the 1090 also is 5-6k dearer and much heavier on the juice....yes much better especially if you inte on 2up,really not a comparable bike though
Now the 950 Super Enduro had everything these had and it looked damn amazing too.
Spot on
Your channel is simply the best ever out there, due to you, the dynamic trio!
Not just factual information on your videos, but really entertaining.
It's great how enjoyable you work out the differences of these bikes, combined with your charismatic and humorous personalities.
Top notch!
I bought the 990 Adventure Baja specifically to get the beast to ride, and to avoid as many electronics as possible. I don't see it as a selling point to include a nanny inside the controls.
Man, I really like the electronics. I know that makes me a sissy or whatever, but I've ridden my 1190 to Peru and on some curves I have come in too hot and you can brake and not stand the bike straight up out of the corner. It really makes me more comfortable riding in the Andes. And everyone says electronics are "waiting to break" but that hasn't been my experience.
But the 990 Baja is a great looking bike, one of my favorites and I almost bought one before I ended up on the 1190.
Why not?
Electronics are on everything these days... and experienced rider or not, what's wrong with progress? and what's wrong with ABS saving my ass when I go around a corner and through some unexpected slippery surface (for e.g.)
Buy what you prefer, but the attitude of thinking it's nanny aids is like preferring a Nokia to an iPhone.
After becoming a 990 adventure owner,I can say with certainty that the 990 is better in every single aspect,EXCEPT fuel consumption.
Long tours,check
Comfy seat,check
2 up dirt riding,check
Commanding position,check
The only thing I wish it could have is a fuel indicator,but w/e,every time I hear my acrapovic roar,I forget it
OR... 990 with hi spec suspension like the 790! Loved how the 990 sounded! -1190 adv owner
I've had my 990r since new in 2012 and always tempted with new bikes, but I can't. It's so much fun Offroad. Often prefer to ride instead of my 450 Offroad with mates on their small enduro bikes, it's just more fun and NAUGHTY HOON FACTOR. I enjoy surprising myself and others with how capable it is. Sure it sucks if you have to pick it up on hill climbs, but it jumps, turns, stops and you often forget your not riding a smaller bike.
I'll never sell my 990...would I buy 790? But, why?
Interesting, none of these bikes strike me as being designed for motocross 🤔.
Today I rode my 990 Adv R 2009 through the Alps for 600 km...after 10 years I love it exactly like the first day...not, that's not right, I love it more than before! No way to sell my 990 to buy that "stuff"...look, engine, history, no electronic...the 990 R stays with me and the 790 stays at the dealer together with the 1090, 1190, 1290 ;-)
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👌👌👌👌
Excellent video gents. I’m a 990 owner, and fiercely proud of it, but a good friend has a 790 and that thing is a weapon! Not enough for me to change though... just doesn’t have enough of the hooligan image 😂
Hahah, couldnt say it better... If lc8 was human it would definitely be hooligan haha !
In few words! I rather! And actually still loving 990 adv. R and 950 súper enduro R.. Small bikes! For short people! And hehehe big and powerfull bikes! For big and .. Or very profesional .. Skilled riders! Hehehe !! Cuz! I am 6'6" tal!
Im loving my 950 Adv still
Love the 990 I am really considering one .Great video ""RIDE ON""
KTM has lost their way with looks, despite the great engineering. The 990 looks wicked. Yes, the 790 is a praying mantis.
Personally I think the 790 looks RAD!
Way better than some of the older KTM's
I think people are bothered to much with the looks of the adventure bikes. Was the GS1200 ever nice? Truth is when you take your bike on a trip around your region, country or world you don't really mind how it looks to be honest...
Eye of the beholder dude....
I completely agree, the 990 Adventure R is my favorite adventure bike, and my 2023 KTM 350 EXC-F is my favorite moderate to technical off-road bike, because there is no way one bike can do it all.
More of a sincere comparison PLZ.
The 990 is the DADDY.
A true comparison is needed.
Remember seeing the 950 first time some years ago and thinking how awesome it looked so different from anything else. At that time they were had newer bigger models in shop as well which I thought didn't look half as good
I just bought a 2013 990 Baja, I agree completely
I agree the best is to have both 790 and the 990. I have the 990 for 11 years now and I absolutely love it. It's brutality, engine spirit and versatility. Also have the 1190R that I am selling now as it is not that good for offroad and onroad I feel more like passenger. The 790 was awesome experience and I was bit afraid to try, because I thought I might like it so much I would sell also the 990. But as wonderful as it is, it does not compare with the 990 for long traveling and same as the 1190 R I felt more like a passenger. The bike is taking care of so much (even when all electronics disabled) that it is missing a bit of the rough spirit that the 990 has. But definitely the suspension and all is way ahead. So again, the best would be to have both. :-)
It's a block of flats m8.
No, it can GET OVER a block of flats.
I died. XD
"SPARK PLUG"
Well done guys, nice bit of humour and banter in the mix, often reviewers take themselves too seriously. Great job of giving both bikes merit where its deserved. To your point, I think the guys who still have their 990`s will keep them regardless of what the market has to offer as a sensible alternative - They are just too Bad Ass!
"it worked for Charlie and Ewan" - ROTFL :D good one
I laughed so hard!!!! True "adventure" joke!
You was right about the 790 breaking I've sold mine and buying another 990.. I'd rather spend £5k on a total engine rebuild and keep the 990 until I die.
Still loving my 990 Baja. No abs, no traction control. Just 999 cc of amazing off road fun. And your right, you better know how to ride to take one offroad nasty stuff. Appreciate the complement.,
While i agree with your general message, abs is def blessing.
Anyone who had emergency braking in traffic will understand
@@Angry-Lynx but it's pretty pitiful in the dirt, try using abs when u wanna lock up the rear and roll down a drop, and I know u can turn it off but having to do it every time u get on the damn things a pain, not to mention it's massive weight aswell
@@dmritchie3 ill take my life and health over small inconvenience, thanks ;
Especially as i had accident where abs would be very helpful. Its not about skill to lock wheels, its that you have to make significant mental effort about braking instead of fully focusing on taking safest path , where you have like .5 sec to make life or death decision
@@Angry-Lynx I completely understand, got hit on my 990 Baja 2 years ago abs would've helped but from a dirt standpoint now adays
Im sure the newer 790 would be a nice ride with all the added electronics however i could not sell my 950 for one.The 950 looks cool,sounds great with aftermarket pipes and the performance is amazing.Downsides are maintenance costs.
Frank Zappa and James Corden test bikes now?
You guys seriously made me laugh.🤣🤣🤣
I mean, I am an 950 adventure s owner and so many things you've said is so true..
Well done
You guys take care 👍👍👍
152000kM's on my '06 990, never a serious problem, just do the maintenance and they reward you. Best bike I've ever owned.
Nice mileage, was engine rebuilded?
The 990 is not a top heavy bike. If you can't lift the 990 by yourself, stick with riding scooters!
Omg this so much! Haha. I weight less than half of bigger fella and i can pickup lc8 with less hassle and im dont even workout
Gotta love the opening, bike rider so fixed on making video he drifts across into other lane with traffic passing. Damn near as good as a cage driver on a cell phone
I don't know how I missed this first time around. I had a 950 for two years in the mid-00s. I am going to get a 790 R as soon as I can drive the price down a little in my Chiang Rai dealer..
One of the best shows I've seen for a very long time!!! 👍🏻😁👍🏻😂👍🏻 🤗
The lc8 Adventure was developed by the Dakar Italian team. Fabrizio Meoni, Giò Sala and Bruno Ferrari... It's a masterpiece. The only bug adventure bike that comes straight from the race...
So nice to see Frank, successful in his new career, after that music thing didn't work out.
Saw a Kawasaki ZX-10 from 1995 Yesterday. I must say, it looked great and was really really fast. I think that Motorcycles have been made really well and last a long damn time. Buuuuuuut, I would get the 790 over the 990.
Nice review! the 990 is also legendary as the bike with the 3 hour oil change.
My ride modes, traction control and abs braking are all controlled by the little levers under my feet and at the end of the handlebars on my 950 adventure. The only short circuit I get is when the brain and eyesight have a lapse in judgement. Ride that 790 on the TAT and let me know how many towns you come through that can service those electronics when they fail.
Great video. Hoping for the Norden 901 to share personality with the erstwhile 990 ADV.
12092021
790 is, what, 4x more expensive, BUT it's just not 4x better. Sorry, even I'd go for the 990
I always say "They don't call it driver AIDS for nothing"
The moment he went "...It'll break"
I kinda felt that indeed, an adventure bike shouldn't need a Motorcycle technician if it leaves you stranded in the desert
950 all the way...
The preying mantis, that's perfect!
ktm used to make good looking man's adventure bike, not anymore... 790R ? LOL no thanks
The 790 is not the best i wish i never bought mine. My 990 is a much better bike. Way to much hype on this new bike.
Cool, but try to be more specific,
Spark plugs ,,,, hahahaha ,, I’m old school so I get one with less things to brake ,,,
Is the SMT and Adventure 990 shares engine?
"Skeleton fron nightmare before christmas" hahaha
Two aspects where not mentioned, which put the 790 ahead of the 990: the fantatic reach (450 to almost 500km when travelling) and the much lower maintanace cost!
UPS, I forgot one thing, the humor is important even when you doing a comparative test😂
Well. Since the 790 is hideous and way too expensive, i'll get a 990 thanks
Also @ 5:00 where is the 990's bashplate?
I sold my 990r and bought a 790r, make no mistake the 790 is the better bike in every way except sheer grunt and power. Well, there was 20bhp if difference.
Picking up the 990... hilarious
Put some real tires on that 990...geezus! Hilarious and well done. Be good to see a proper test with the same rubber on both bikes.
love the old ktms 💪
The 990 seems to be missing its sump guard?
Ya looks like it
I've owned a 990 and now own a 790 R. Sorry 990 owners, the 790 is the winner with ease. Better, smoother power where you needed it and where it counts most, weight and chassis. The 990 feels old and heavy. The 790 feels like a bigger 500.
Are we back?
I am wondering how he maintains his hairstyle wearing helmets
I would like to see the same type of comparison between the 790 and the 1090
1090 seems like kinda overlooked model..... Everyone is like 1190 this 1190 that....
"It will break . . ."
"It will break . . ."
"It will break . . ."
Nostradamus
I think the real challenger is the 690, like honestly that engine is bulletproof, consumes little fuel, has above 70hp which is more than a stock CR500 and it weighs some 150 to 160kg. As far as I know the only real issue, is that under seat tank, which makes it rather uncontrollable in the woops. But I never get, why people prefer the 790. It does absolutely not have a lot of suspension travel, in fact it's more or less identical to the street bike in terms of geometry and honestly, how many people can actually properly blast a 200kg plus bike offroad?
I sure as hell can't.
comfort and range and stable 690 hard seat cant ride far
@@TraveladvRajanSRaiThat's one of the points I am very very much opposed to and btw so are all the experts.
A soft seat will hurt you after a while and then it will get worse and there is no escaping.
Humans have been riding things for so long that we are sort of adapted to it, you do have a seat muscle under your ass.
People who ride rode bicycles tour de france style sit on the hardest saddles you could imagine but after a certain time of getting used to it, it won't hurt you.
What you need is a good saddle, not a soft one.
I would much rather go to a saddle pro with the narrow saddle of an MX type seat and get it fitted to my buttocks then with an armchair like you find on those big beasts.
I tried several times to hear it but still never quite nailed it down...what currency are they talking about at the end?
I think I heard Rand, which is South Africa
Folks...I own a 950 GO and a 990 orange...
Both bikes are looking absolut sexy...especially the "GO"....but sorry, my opinion is that the 790 adv is not nearly so sexy like the old ones. Have always a good ride !
love you guys
Still prefer the 950 !!!
I have a 790. Because... it’s a great bike but also because the 990 is not available. So there’s that.
Why does the title not have a r on it. It just will confuse people
This made me subscribe.
I didn't know that Zlatan Ibrahimovic liked the 990!
Is an up down quick shifter even useful while off road.
I did not think so and it was very annoying on a 690 that I just purchased but I've grown to love it
I got to test the Yamaha T7 or T700 or Tènéré 7 or whatever it's called (it's actually rather good, if kinda boring) and someone turned up on a 790 Adventure.....and we all thought the same thing: the KTM is ugly, especially in the flesh, and the Yamaha looks cool and nimble. I so much tried to like the 790 but I just don't. Whereas the 950/990 still looks wicked. I don't own a 950/990 but I've ridden one offroad a couple of times, even on a frigging proving grounds for tanks (the shooty tracked ones) and every time I giggled like a school girl and it wasn't nearly as scary as I'd expected. Whyyy KTM struggles so hard to make a modern 950 Adventure, beats me.
so cool im trying to save for one now
Just love the sarcasm and political correctness from the pair of them.
More cc is better, 990 is bettery but i would rather 1090 or 1190. I hope they bring out 1290 or 1390, would be my fav
80 lbs heavier offrod
Frank Zappa?
Zapp Franka
Where you've been Harry? its been a while
This is an amazing video!
KTM is he best bike ever!
Keith Richards is right, 990 all the way. James Corden needs to stick to his carpool karaoke methinks!
I see Burto in the background 😂
Hi, both of them, with this comparative test, you said everything, my best congratulations with both, ah, I would say this, never leave the old road if you don’t know the new one,you may get lost 😂😂😂
"Yes, it's a mans bike and I'm clearly a man because I can fit on it. You on the other hand are a Teletubby>'
Lmao!!
Well done. It was the comparo to do. Congrats.
Don`t talk so much, ride, please!
what about my 1190 adventure 😢
990 every day of the week
Banana Republic lol...1090R takes the 1st spot all day
Electronics on a KTM. It WILL break.
This is such a luddite point of view, similar to people who claim carbs are better than fuel injection because they're easier to work on.. OR you just ride your FI bike and forget about needing to constantly work on fuel delivery..
The sound was pretty dodgy guys
"Teletubbi" haha
You guys! xD
Awesome vid! So funny and since I'm looking to buy a 990 , well, thanks. ^_-
I love it... that will break 😂
I loooooveeeeee 950/990 adventures! Shame that I’m shaped like fuckin Johnny Bravo with short legs.
That was good fun!
god damn this was freaking hilarious
Frank Zappa is reviewing bikes?
😂😂