Smart move for that bad guy to not put up a fight. In TX, the law abiding citizen definitely seems to have the legal advantage when it comes to defensive scenarios.
@@Intensi0ns Good thing too IMO. In my state, our all knowing and wise leaders have determined that we have a “duty to retreat” even inside our own homes. Total BS.
Im from Texas. Yes, in Texas the default is your justified. You may use deadly force for theft in the nighttime, and criminal mischief in the nighttime. You may use force, like pointing a weapon in this daytime situation.
I am from Texas and typically this is correct except if you live in a big city. I wouldn't be surprised if this man is charged in San Antonio. The DA's are radicals.
These people Are racking up 10-20 charges and just go right back and do it again. Not only does our system not work but the idea that we can't protect our possessions against these people is lunacy.
We should imprison thieves and make them pay back their debts for what they stole. We should also publicly execute rapists and murderers like the good ol days rather than give them 10-40 years in jail as a slap on the wrist.
@@Woozlewuzzleable except that it still happens that these people get shot while thieving... So apparently the threat of getting smoked still isn't enough to dissuade some burglars.
My nephew lives in the state of Washington, used his rifle to get an intruder to lie face-down, and held him there until local police came. But while waiting for the cops, my nephew talked to this intruder to get his story and found that the guy was receptive to some ideas for improving his life. By the time cops arrived, my nephew had basically become the intruder's mentor, and 9 months later this former criminal had graduated from a skills-trade apprenticeship program and started his career as a welder with a commercial construction company. Happy ending
What a genuine story I’d like to hear nowadays instead of hearing about people against people out for blood. It’s nothing like that and shouldn’t be like that glad to hear no one end up getting hurt or killed and worked out well for everybody in youre story god bless you and your families hearts Sir or mam(whatever abbreviation you prefer lol)🙏🙏
That's good to hear! Though, one has to wonder if he would have been as receptive to changing his life if he hadn't had a rifle pointed at him. Which I've heard can have a sobering effect on some.
Wow, that’s awesome; I love hearing wholesome, positive stories about humans helping other humans to make wise decisions. It’s Americans like your nephew that make the world a better place, one person at a time. Thanks for sharing!
This is what we as a community need more of. You can’t just come into our neighborhood and steal mine or my neighbors things that we work hard for. Awesome video!
If this was California, the thief would have sued for a civil rights violation...he was denied his state guaranteed right to be able to steal anything he wants.
What more beta advice on him telling people to let the robbers go and give the cops a description? This channel is one of the reasons our country has gotten so soft against crime!
@@craig1784 Well no Texas has stand your ground laws. Which all states should have. Granted the media could of made this a race thing and we see parents come out crying about how "he did nothing wrong" etc. Kangaroo courts.
Guy thought he was gonna try some daytime LA theft and forgot he was in Texas. Well done for the home owner. These guys can get these apartment style keys easily at times and have way with your house. I worked in maintenance for years. Not hard to do. That being said, something about a shotgun puts a chill in you like not many things can.
Germany protested the use of pump shotguns in 1918 during WW1. American soldiers were using it to clear trenches, earning the nickname "trench broom" or "trench sweeper," because it would take out multiple enemy at once. They threatened to execute any POW caught with a shotgun or shells. America responded with a lengthy treatise on war, basically stating that Germany was in no position to object since they used many tools of war that could be said to violate rules established in the Hague Conventions, and that shotguns do not cause undue suffering in their ability to kill, to which they never received a response. American forces continue to use shotguns to this day.
It's the knowing that a shotgun will shred you and blow off chunks where as a rifle or pistol bullet will penetrate and leave a hole but the shotgun can literally leave you unrecognizable and unidentifiable unless they manage to find a tooth somewhere or if you have identifiable tattoos.
@@younggunner9482 That's a modern shotgun loaded with buckshot at close range. The shells they used in WW1 had nine pellets, each roughly the size of a .32 bullet. They'd take out multiple combatants at a distance due to the spread of the pellets and the Germans' penchant for grouping men close together, and the they objected to that fact. The American response countered that the Germans were using machine guns that did the same spraying of rounds into multiple enemy. You can read the response online, if you're interested.
That seems like a valid point to me.How come so many cops are being shot for the last 2-3 years? i blame part of it on the running of our country and part on our liberal justice system that feels the need to let criminals off to easily only to have them repeat the crimes.WE are literally seeing the decay of the USA in real time.
@@joepublic2894 i don't know about where you live. but here in Arkansas. how the criminal justice system works is = if said offenders crime suggest that they we reoffend soon they will slap on the wrist( minimum sentence ). if said offenders crime suggest it's a one time thing. they throw the book at them( max sentence ). the reasoning behind this is = if you commit crimes often. the prosecutors, the public defenders, and the judges make more money. ( whether its over or under the table ) if you made a mistake and have a low chance of breaking the law again. the longer they can keep you in jail or prison. the more money said jails and prisons get from the federal government. its all about the money$
In many cases a citizen can avoid being in such a situation. The cop's job is to put themselves into those situations. Though I still agree, self-defense is a natural right, from all threats.
In my state, you car rob people, their homes, the grocery stores, pretty much anywhere and as long as it less then 1k you’re ok to go home. Oh you can also molest and be a pedophile & get lighter sentences now. Best part is, is when the police get theses monster and the civilians cry and criticize the police, but the monster? Oh well, Who cares.
@@_Mooner no lmao easily 200+. Craigslist, eBay, Facebook marketplace etc. Best way to sell stolen goods. Can sell full market price or lower. Now whether or not thieves are that intelligent or patient and just go to a pawn shop is different
@@User-54631 they weighed WAY more than that! I'm over 50yrs old and those wooden encased, tube TV's, from the 70's and 80's weighed a ton...from Wyoming USA 🇺🇸 🤠
Just remember guys, if the DA tries to ever charge you for aiming that firearm at the criminal, take no plea bargains and request your jury trial. The DA already knows they will never get 6-12 people to unanimously convict.
@@notpublic8961 someone trying to steal something from me and I aim a gun at them to get my property back that's an intimidation tactic. And you wanna sit here on your high horse and act like you know what you're talking about when you can't even get the charge right? 🤦🏻♂️ the charge would be "pointing and presenting a firearm" now, as soon as you shoot at them or shoot them its aggravated assault or attempted murder. Me personally I got charged with 2 attempted murders in a situation where I had to defend my self and they tried to get me to plead to aggravated assault. He does sound kind of silly saying let a jury completely hold your life in their hands but still. If you gonna talk shit at least know what you're talking about.
It depends your state tho. I live in a liberal state so the prosecutor would say he had a duty to retreat before drawing his firesrm as he wasn't inside the home
I love this. Man stops man from stealing the neighbors stuff. People helping people. He did everything perfect. His choice of firearm, his movement, his clarity to control the situation. Bravo
I, as a former NRA instructor, understand the laws and always presented facts from a legal standpoint. However, I’ve always felt it to be absurd that civilians have to wait for the criminal to get the drop on them before responding while an officer can draw his pistol on you for non-compliance.
@@joshdavis3743 most states agree it’s okay when one fears greatly for his or her safety including serious injury up to potential death. That includes pulling a gun on someone who is unarmed. An example would be a woman who is being attacked by a big strong man trying to rape her. Most states also have a castle doctrine law which states you have every right to defend yourself and your home, as the home is a private, safe intimate space where only invited guests are allowed.
In Texas It's not really true that you have to wait for the suspect to use deadly force against you.. The threat of deadly force is considered reasonable force no different as if you were to pepper spray him, cuff him or use your hands to physically stop him from stealing. This is something you're required to learn when you take your LTC and something your self defense lawyer will hammer into your head. Stand your ground and castle doctrine protect you against criminals.
I learned a long time ago (as a result of being a victim of a crime) the laws are often written to protect the criminal. Just think of all the things the law abiding citizen has to think about when coming in contact with a criminal in the act.
To my understanding, basically the Western law tradition (English common law?) is 'it is better to let the 10 criminals go free, than to wrongly punish 1 innocent person'. The ''assumption of innocent until proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt' is a prime example of this mind set. Especially when it come to dealy force/ death penalty. One of the rationales is, you always have a chance to catch the criminal if he continues his wrong doing, but once you punished an innocent person (taken time out of his life by throwing him into prison, or cut his hand off for stealing, for example), you can never compensate that. The opposite is to be very hard on crime but occationaly, or very often, you will punish the wrong person. Like what they do in China.
Western laws* be precise about it .. cuz cuz the eastern part of the world you get crazy sentences for shit like that .. and if you murder someone you will get the death sentence .. eye for eye is the best human law ever created
@@dickiewongtk logic is flawed. citizen level versus state level actions here. What you describe is correct for STATE level action. 100% always innocent until proven guilty. at the citizen level this is (or should) be very very different. the citizen SHOULD have some duty to avoid lethal action but not onerous duty. its pretty simple. give a reasonable order (stop) comply? NOT allowed to shoot. Don't Comply? Shoot. their choice. they could very easily comply and do as they are commanded to do and everyone gets to go home alive.
""Just think of all the things the law abiding citizen has to think about when coming in contact with a criminal in the act."" Shouldn't you have to think about a lot of things before you shoot someone? The basis for our justice system is that the punishment fits the crime. If we disregard that, all hell will break lose.
“If violent crime is to be curbed, it is only the intended victim who can do it. The felon does not fear the police, and he fears neither judge nor jury. Therefore what he must be taught to fear is his victim.” - Lt. Col. Jeff Cooper, USMC
I dont think it is us that have to ask the question "Is stealing personal property worth taking a life over?". No. I think its up to the burglar that has to ask themselves "Is stealing personal property worth losing my life over?".
Should be the case, at the same time it's a Grey area. A guy stealing a TV doesn't by default deserve death for that action alone. At the same time though, we are only legally allowed to pretend we can shoot so it's a false defense and the law just can't expect everyone to be able to go hand to hand or simply let the guy walk with our property for them to "handle it", law enforcement can also attest to non lethal measures not being reliable so its just Grey all around. This is where situational awareness and preventative measures come in.
Nailed it!! As far as I am concerned, if someone breaks into the home of my family, entering without my permission and without me knowing his intentions, he has made the decision that his life is forfeit. My wife and daughter's lives will trump that of any invader on any given day.
Sorry, in Texas the law may say you can only use deadly force to protect property at night but just try to find a jury to convict a fellow Texan for doing the scumbag in.
Any time you fear for your life or serious bodily harm. Daylight or dark. It is legal to regain possession of your property if you catch someone. Too bad for them if they make you fear for your life doing so.
Bruh he pointed a gun at the dude over a tv while no weapons are seen. How is he in fear of his life when he’s the on pointing a gun over a tv that’s not even his lol
It's absurd that we could see someone committing a crime but we have to wait until they"become" threatening to do something. We are always behind the curve. My property i.e. house, car, TV is my life. Sick of this bs and we wonder why society has gone to shit
I agree, but now is the best time to defend yourself at all costs despite the laws in your state. Our community is growing and we are voicing our RIGHTS. We are in a time even if we are wrongfully convicted, any new case like that will almost certainly catch a lot of attention and put a lot of pressure on the DAs and state officials to quit punishing CITIZENS who constitutionally SELF PROTECT themselves, because they know they won't hear the end of it from us if they keep up w their bullshit. This nonsense cannot be tolerated no more
@@LateNightRewrites Have people forgot there are more of us than they are of them? It worked for the George Flloyd movement, for all the wrong reasons. I know it can be done for the right reasons, and it must be organized and calculated, not wild wild west like the capitol...lol Funny enough, the "peaceful" BLM rights fucked the police over quite a bit and now look what we have... at least as the West Coast goes.. it's tragic seeing this place and brainwashed ppl enabling criminals
Agree. In my view, the laws in other places need to be changed to allow legal defense of property with lethal force. To have to stand there , with gun in hand and the means to stop him, while the thief calmly walks off with my property, because if I shoot him I'm the one who gets prosecuted and sent to jail, while the thief, who was probably armed too, if caught by Police is out on bail the next day, if not released all together, is totally ridiculous. It's one reason there's so much crime in this country. The laws regarding this all Western countries are upside down on this issue.
A lot of preps that are caught after a struggle say, "I thought I could take him". The homeowner's overwhelming show of force removed any hint of the burglar getting the upper hand. Kind of like how the cops will use 10 men to serve a warrant.
Reminds me of the 12ga video where the guy puts his arm up like 'what ya gonna shoot me?!' and the guy blows a chunk of his arm into the storefront while he screams at a wiggly noodle.
Oh, I bet that felt so satisfying for the homeowner to finally catch him. I'm sure we've all had an experience where we've been scammed or stolen from and you can't do anything about it.
@@Yeahyeah116 i think the Kyle Rittenhouse situation proves they won't all run away, even if one person is dead on the pavement sometimes they still won't run
It just amazes me how you make everything so complicated, saying things like, his trigger finger position, the direction he’s pointing at and so forth. This guy stopped the criminal from stealing. Yes it’s property but someone worked hard to pay for it. The guy did the right thing. He didn’t shoot, the police were called and you let them sort it out. A Good Samaritan. We need more people like him.
John's just trying to make sure people are safe in the "fight after the fight." As tempting it would be to fill immediately a thief full of holes, just remember that it could be frowned upon once the cops arrive, once the journalists arrive and put their spin on the story, and once the justice system gets involved. Unfortunately, what this man did in Texas might not be acceptable elsewhere and it's up to us as citizens to know the law and to change it if it is unjust.
There's always things to learn from others, better to learn about it here than accidentally blow someone away yourself in a similar situation just because your finger is on the trigger and you trip on a step or something.
This guy knows the law and is trying to keep people out of trouble. The judge is not going to call you to court to get your opinion about "the right thing."
Why not just form a political party and vote for other people's stuff? That way the politicians can get in on the grift. If you don't want people to vote to steal from you, YOU are greedy.
@MannyP you don't need parents to know not to steal. They just wanna do it. Lost souls. And possibly some buck shot. It's simple. Don't take people's stuff and bad things won't happen.
As far as I’m concerned when you decide to break into someone’s house and shatter their sense of security you’ve forfeited your civil rights. I’m not saying let’s blow people away willy nilly but you better be prepared for what you get in return.
Had a customer walking to her car when she noticed someone stealing a catalytic converter from someone's truck. As she went to go confront him, he immediate slid out and pulled a pistol on her. She ran away to get help. He ended up leaving with not only the converter, but a ton of her groceries.
Uh no? Civil rights should apply to the accused and the guilty just as much as they do to innocent people. The justice system (and its rules pertaining to self defense) should not aim to be a retributive one, but rehabilitative one. Treating people who break the law as irredeemable scum not deserving of rights only guarantees they will continue to break the law because if everyone says they are hopeless trash then they must be or no one would think so. But if you give them an opportunity and an incentive to change for the better, then they just might and that saves everyone a lot more time, work, and money.
I 100% guarantee you that if it had been the cops that showed up to stop that burglar, they'd have had weapons drawn. If it's okay for the cops to use the threat of deadly force to prevent a theft, it's okay for private citizens to do it too.
Bad argument. A sovereign state has a monopoly of violence, which is similar to the monopoly of law. You live in a country which says murder is punishable, but if a country can make laws then a citizen can make laws also! So a citizen should be able to murder people because if the state can make the law so can citizens. Terrible, terrible argument. USA is fucked anyway, gl in your 3rd world country that's on the brink of civil war.
IS IT": A nice opinion that people can agree with? Y The actual current law? N Can you end up in jail living among much worse than a thief using that logic? Y
John, I usually agree with your analysis of these videos, but not this time. If a criminal is willing to break in to my home, he IS a deadly threat. Case in point: I had a neighbor break into my townhouse and steal some guns. I caught him on video but he had a mask covering his nose and mouth. No arrest, police told me a prosecutor would not charge the criminal because a jury wouldn't convict. After they left, I found that he had loaded my shotgun in case I came in on him. The next summer he was arrested for murder during a break-in. Burglars ARE a deadly threat until they prove they are not.
@@blackjohnny9570 I agree with the no death penalty for stealing. guy is making off with a tv. you're holding a shotgun and tell him to stop. he just keeps walking away, with the tv too! of course you don't just shoot him in the back. I disagree with the "only" restrictions though. there are many ways the suspect can be a deadly threat, even if they appear unarmed. if it looks like a deadly threat to you or others then I'd say it's ok to fire anytime and anywhere, preferably first.
@@barjrob John is incorrect. He is misinterpreting the law, because as it is written there are no "during nighttime" restrictions regarding stopping "arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery". The "during nighttime" restrictions are SPECIFICALLY and ONLY attached to "theft during the nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime".
The homeowner did a good job. Especially when you consider that the thief had been there before. That fact alone is likely to increase the emotional response to catching the guy stealing again. Score one for the good guys.👍🏻
Now the DA will throw out any charges because of inequality or something dumb like that. He's now a victim because the mean old property owner pointed a gun at him.
@@ralphlaguna6168 Not in Texas, brandishing for the purpose of stopping a crime is legal there. Not like in the states that harbor criminals. You should look up they guy who killed two thieves leaving his neighbor's house with an armload of stuff. 911 operator even told him not to go outside, but it was 100% legal under Texas law.
Yeah I'm sure in the back of his head he would have thought about wasting the guy since he had been robbed before. He made a good call to keep his emotions in check and instead of wasted the robber he told his gf to call the cops and let them handle the situation.
If he had not come out with that weapon the criminal may not have taken him seriously and it could have lead to a physical altercation or worse. You can’t reason with unreasonable people.
Exactly this! I see no wrong with pointing a gun at criminals. As long as you don't shoot them out of malice without reason. Also WTF is this "let 'em go" bullcrap?? Scare those MFers and make them wait for police at gunpoint for what I care, stop being pussies! With hard-headed people one needs to be heavy handed...
@@georgemclane1472 That is somehow valid question I did not think about. After pondering a minute, I'd make sure to not leave a culprit A WAY to run. Make him cornered; as bad as it sounds bad, if they run, one have potentially much bigger problem than lawsuits: one can have disgruntled, full of malice not thinking straight burglar that can attempt murder later on. It is not far fetched, I've heard NUMEROUS times that shit happened... Even under this here ASP video, scroll down and search for it. In my book defender must be as ruthless if not more than attacker and must dominate situation to such extent that attacker would not have even ground to stand on. If perp is taking your TV? Corner him before he could do anything. If perp is brandishing weapon, shoot him to neutralize before he even thinks about pointing at you. I know this is just idle talk, but being frank, it's the law that is unrealistic...
@@LikePhoenixFromAshes let me simplify your answer. If you want to shoot somebody in the back for stealing merchandise you deserve to go to prison for the rest of your life and lose everything you've ever worked hard for
@@georgemclane1472 Or I'd like to reiterate my previous point: if suspect is already running after leaving TV or any other stuff, leave him. Running after suspects is police job, that I agree 100% with John. On the other hand, I don't agree on (not Johns, but general) opinion that shooting someone in the back is bad. NO, defender was/is under attack as long as there are no signs of enemy in sight and one can logically presume that the thread had ended. This is fairly easy as long as you can go away to safety from some random spot. If anything happened close to my home/house full of significant ones and family? I'm fine using effing tanks for all I care, anybody/anything can go F themselves until my side is safe so shooting potentially dangerous perps for them to go away is okay. (once again, I'm talking about perps RUNNING away full speed, which indicates they are done fighting. If they as much as flinch during retreat, smoke 'em without batting an eye.) (edit: I've written this post BEFORE @George McLane wrote his post above. This is not direct reply)
That's awesome the neighbors watch out for each other. Same thing happened to me in Columbus GA, my neighbor pulled his gun to get the robbers that broke into my apartment before I got home and cops were called. That's what needs to be done to stop of this
The most overused saying. By that logic, Texas should be the most polite place on earth. I’m 2a all day but I reject the notion that more guns makes a better society. Look at the US right now, the most guns per capita in the world and still riddled with crime of all types. Fixing a society is more complex than just giving everyone guns.
@@wyaldkingdom Most of those crimes you speak of take place in cities known to be strict on guns…. Remove cities like Chicago,Detroit and LA and the US becomes one of the most crime free countries on the planet
@ghostmofo5829 What a slimy comment. Bringing up nonsense politics (especially with garbage statements) just makes you look like a fool. "Democrats" or "left-wingers" or whatever stupid label for your *opposition,* own guns too.
Texas gun laws are great, almost as good as Oklahoma where I reside. A person has the right to protect his person, his family, and his property. Seems like a pretty easy concept.
Texas OR Oklahoma if you kill someone stealing from you during daylight you are 100% going to jail. simple. you do NOT have the right to use DEADLY force to protect PROPERY during daylight hours. Dont be an idiot.
@@zoggrog8823 if you’re so informed then when can you use deadly force? Right to protect property doesn’t make sense if your shoot someone that’s stealing your items such as a car or another thing of great value
@@haff1088 He stated in the video Texas penal code 9.4.2 only authorizes the use of deadly force to be used to protect property against theft occuring durning the night
@@ClutchUp91 I understand. Now, do you need to catch it on film? I have a lot of questions but it’s really because of how bad I’ve been hearing houston is becoming and I’m moving there soon. Last thing I want while trying to raise my family as a sober and moral person is to be caught off guard trying to defend my famlily or property.
@@zoggrog8823 False. There are no "during nighttime" restrictions regarding stopping the crimes of "arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery". The restrictions John mentions are specifically and only "theft during the nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime".
If someone's a thief. They need shit like this to happen. They won't ever learn until they have an encounter such as this. Legally speaking, sure this is a bad idea (depending on state laws) But I have a strong hate towards anyone that steals, unless it's food or water. Yes I do value my property more than some low life scum bags life.
The foundation of being a free man is to have property rights ... a free man cannot allow his property to be stolen! Indeed, each citizen must defend (to death, if required) his civil rights, which includes property.
That last sentence is rough to read. It's good that you're at least honest about it (a lot of people on here aren't) but that's a really sad conclusion.
It might seem obvious, but you never actually _know_ until it's too late. A Texas conceal carrier once ran in and shot a gas station clerk while he was brandishing a shotgun at the real perpetrator.
@@sninctbur3726 a classic example of showing up late and making dangerous assumptions. could have asked the shotgun clerk to lay down his weapon etc instead of immediately popping a round off
@@sninctbur3726 LOL, rescuing gas station clerks in public is different than defending your home. If I did not authorize you to be in my home at night, I have an instant understanding of the situation-it's you or me and it ain't gonna be me.
I don't know what's more amazing.... The fact that he was able to prevent a robbery with perfect timing, or the fact that this was actually shown on CNN 😂
Imo this is how it should go down. No violence, stopped a criminal. It would have been WORSE if he used "non lethal" force and it turned into an altercation that could have gotten people hurt. This went perfectly
@@lepton31415 doesn't mean i won't shoot, i'll definitely do some time again. It's worth sitting in jail for a lil while if it means one less rat piece of shit thief breathing. If it was an ideal world tho, I'd love to leave them severely physically or mentally disabled for the rest of their pathetic lives, make them suffer for every breath
@@lepton31415 Sorry, Randy but I just can't see myself offering my computer, cell phone and wallet to a guy who just walked out of my house with my 4,000 dollar TV. I hope no one ever finds out who you are or where you live. They will definitely know they are welcomed to steal your stuff and maybe even be asked to stay for dinner.
@@lepton31415 Asking is one thing. I will give my him the shirt off my back and offer him all the hot meals I can until he gets up on his feet and can survive on his own. STEALING from me is different animal. Ask me and I will give you all I can. STEAL from me... no.
In the defense of property conversation, I think a lot of people neglect to think of the other things lost in a home invasion. A sense of security in your own home. Restful sleep. Trust in your community. These things are stolen too.
I once had someone try to kick my back door in while I was asleep. I didn't even know until I was out mowing the lawn the next day. The realization that I had slept through that was very unsettling. I've slept within arms reach of a weapon ever since.
You went from defense of property to home invasion. You cannot shoot someone "protecting" or "defending" property. Home invasion? Armed burglar? Threatening you with bodily harm? That's a different story. I hope you know the difference. Not knowing could land you in the gray bar hotel.
The government does since you acquired it with their money. You are just a steward. I’m not advocating and behalf of thieves I’m advocating against the tyrannical nature of somebody that can put material gains over the value of another human being’s life. It’s not really your property you don’t actually own anything your bills will never stop coming and you will always have to find a way to get more money to afford anything you have or want in the future. It’s a perpetual system that doesn’t benefit you cause your money will always be worth less tomorrow and you’ll blame everybody else but those responsible. You play the game that they set up and then justify killing other players who are no real threat to your safety. So in essence you can devalue human life to where it is lesser than a television all while claiming moral justification. They have truly pitted us against each other and keep the riches for themselves. Screw your television he would be doing you a favor if you wanted to have any sense or thoughts of your own. You play their game they own you and you would rather blame the TV thief for a broken society. Stupid
@@randygarbrecht3185 You are speaking in collectiveness nonsense. You blame society for the actions of the individual. Do you know why I would never be killed for braking into another persons home? Because I choose not to take that action. Stop with the dialectic crap comrade. I don't beg the government for money, I work for it. I find much satisfaction in my work and people are willing to trade for it. That is the bases for society. People who take rather than make brakes society, so that tv thief IS actively braking society. People that spew this sort of philosophy you have breeds a culture of decay. Theft mostly affects the poor neighborhoods and you say that they would be better off without. How disgusting.
@@MeSoTrashed you pick and choose your moral indignation based off of laws written by better men than would name themselves MeSoTrashed on a public platform. First and foremost laws pertaining to executing a person who enters your home varies from state to state. That bullshit bravado could get you locked up thinking your the judge jury and executioner. Secondly I will double down on anybody that can downgrade human life to less than the cost of replacing a television. Society is to blame for what society is. Both are individuals, the robber and the homeowner although for some reason you choose to delineate the latter as an actor on behalf of society. Your logic is half assed and hypocritical. How the fuck does that work? Society is only those in which you choose to agree with? Or only those who benefit from the systems in which are tailored to them? Every singe fucking society has thieves asshat. Most of ours are in charge of industry and politics but I don’t see you and your society with your guns doing a fucking thing about it. You’re milktoast at best but probably just watched too much war porn as a child. Fuck your TV it’ll need to be replaced before your done renting to own it.
"you wanna fuck with private people, we will fuck you up with our guns" is the message I was hoping to see from Americans in the future. It seems to be effective from the past.
@@user-xw4vg1vy5e My parents used to say, we are now protecting the rights of the criminals. That was the 70’s That was 45 years ago. When did this happen in America? Didn’t they used to hang horse thieves?
@@user-xw4vg1vy5e Absolutely! Just take a look at europe, japan or other countries! Burglars everywhere, violence, school shootings, cops die on the streets every single day. That’s the way we are heading!
Yeah, but an accidental discharge would be bad for both parties. 1. Don't point your gun at anyone you don't want to kill 2. On target, on trigger, off target off trigger. These are biblical in the firearm 🌎. But yeah, it was lawful.
People that say "if you kill a thief then you value your property over other human life" don't understand that, actually, its not ME who values my stuff over their lives, is the intruder who values my stuff over their lives. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes!
2:56 I’ve seen on Cops many times the Police pointing their firearms at people who they have not yet identified as a deadly threat when they make a stop on vehicles or going in to burglaries. In my opinion this is what this guy is doing to protect himself by not allowing the burglar to possibly get the drop on him. He did a great job and also stopped himself from being prosecuted for excessive force by going hands on. Just my opinion from the UK so open to discussion not argument.👍🏼
Cops drawing down on people was often not even investigated, even when it was gross negligent and completely unwarranted. Regular citizens aren't getting the benefit of the doubt from either the DA or the grand jury
Sir, you are right.Any person LE or otherwise has no right to pull in a blind scenario. If they know of course they have a warrant that's different.So many LE have no business in the business. We recently suffered the loss of a kid holding a gallon jug at the hands of LE
Great job in pointing out the nighttime qualification in TX law. That part needs to change and shooting thieves needs to be legal in all 50 states. Does anyone else think that might slow down all the stealing?
For sure. Violent crime sharply increases in American jurisdictions that ban firearms or severely restrict their use. Gun laws almost exclusively benefit criminals and only work to prevent law-abiding citizens from defending themselves. Criminals are (generally) far less likely to brazenly rob someone if there is a decent chance the victim has a gun.
What would slow down stealing is eliminating poverty and giving opportunities to people. Ofc even if you are poor and have few opportunities stealing is not ok. Explaining is not excusing, explaining is understanding, and understanding is what we need to solve our problems
@@paifu. 🤡🤡🤡 everyone in this country has same opportunity to make something of themselves. Thievery needs no more understanding from me. That person is violating my liberty and if something bad happens to them as the result of that violation it's squarely on them as it was their decision to rob me of my liberty.
@@CN-ir1xm "Everyone in this country has the same opportunities" Wow you really have sunk deep in the Capitalist realism. You're probably pretty privileged if I had to guess.
if in France, in my country, on the land of my ancestors, I do exactly the SAME thing as this gentleman who defends his property, well it will be me that the "Justice" will put in prison. cherish your right to be armed, if it is taken away from you, you will not be able to do anything and the thieves and scum will be the masters.
@@WestinsChannel there are a few of us who want to take it out, trust me. it is above all that the republic disarmed the French after the second war, and my people have totally forgotten that they had a great culture of firearms in the past..
It is entirely morally acceptable to use deadly force to defend your property. I spent hours of my life that I'll never get back working to earn the money I spent on my things, I'm not going to allow an IMMORAL thief to take from me.
@Ben David So you set the time it takes to make $6000 against the entirety of their existence, start to finish? I don't know whether you are a Christian or not, but you might want to ask WWJD (by the way, I am an agnostic).
The argument that the defendant who kills someone that is stealing from them doesn't care about the criminals life misdirects the moral responsibility. The moral responsibility is held on the individual committing the crime, the criminal doesn't care about his OWN life. Also don't forget property and money represents your time, hard work and future ability to provide for yourself. So the robber is taking part of your life and livelihood. The people mudding the water in support of criminals are responsible for the increase of theft and violent crime. You are transferring responsibility from the criminals to the victim.
Thank you for this comment very well said and definitely true. Stop shifting the blame of criminals to the victims. As a former victim of theft and someone who's struggled through homelessness I believe my stuff is part of my life and happiness. I shouldn't have to prove I was in threat of my life to defend what my life created for me.
Great point and well said! But while you are 100% correct, and I wish things were like this, this is not the world we live in anymore. At one time your view was accepted by everyone (even criminals), when money and possessions were hard to come by for most, but these are the days of excess. Most people in this country have more than they need and are usually protected with insurance, so using deadly force to protect a TV is skewed in most cases. Being caught on property/in home while committing a crime, an assailant should justifiably fear for their life, but outside your home, unless you are being mortally threatened, deadly force just won't be justified anymore. It used to be the death penalty for a horse-thief bc you may not survive without your horse. Things have changed though ..unfortunately. In the past, penalties were harsh, and protecting property was justified to make one think twice before committing a crime. Now criminals have rights. Some evolved society, huh? As you said, it just creates more problems, the way we have to live now; within such a liberal society. But the reality is that we're not going to go back to the way it was, we're headed in a very left-wardly direction... : (
What if you walk out and all you see is someone pointing a shot gun at someone .. would you just start shooting at the guy with the shotgun? At that point it would look like someone trying to murder someone else.
In my part of Washington state, Seattle Tacoma area, the burglar would've been released from custody by claiming he's an oppressed class and the homeowner charged for hate crimes as the oppressor.
So true. I used to live in WA and i was a gun owner - so i made myself familiar with the laws, and i stay somewhat familiar with them as they change. When i received an out of state job offer, i jumped at the opportunity to get out of that state, because it was clearly only going to get worse in my estimation (which it obviously did).
This guy was most likely working for the Best Buy Geek Squad and merely taking the TV to check why channels 400-975 came in fuzzy. He gave up really easy and most likely his first time having the muzzle of a firearm shoved in his face. Stand up against these vermin! Props to the homeowner
In California or New York, the home owner would have been charged with assault using a deadly weapon just because they took care of business outside of the home on the front lawn... It's really shameful. Love the points you made here, truly great information on the proper use of force
The fact that videos like this exist in trying to educate people on the complexities of firearm use is proof that the “law” has castrated good people from using firearms effectively at all.
@kevinpantera4429 Deadly force is not legal if the thief is outside of your house and leaving with a TV. Lethal force is only legal if your life is being threatened.
Personally, I deeply disagree with the condemnation of the use of deadly force to defend property. I invested my life into obtaining that which is mine, and thus my property is an extension of it. That aside, the legal commentary is extremely valuable and appreciated!
@@geobloxmodels1186 Absolutely, and the fact that same POS then goes on to arrest us if we try to stop him from stealing our stuff - and therefore our lives (both what we invested and what we will need to expend to recoup for the stolen capital) - just adds salt to the wound!
No one cares how deeply you disagree, it's the law. You don't want to learn how little opinion ends up mattering in court, even if 90% of sensible people would agree with you. Trust me on that one...
1/3 people are thieves. Justifying deadly force to protect property means that over 100 million Americans would be dead right now during minor theft incidents.
We should be able to defend our property the same way in this country let the criminal worry about if it is worth it or not and not the owner of said property.
@@UnrealSickness Your brain doesn't work. You believe that the honest person has to accept criminals with no punishment at all. You see that the robber has two hands, two legs, his eyes are working, he has the will to violate private property and carry a TV, so he could be using his body to perform some tasks in exchange for money AKA job. Why people always find excuses not to work but get themselfs in situations that are far more dangerous and complex? And why people like you are always defending the criminal and not the honest person? Do you understand that what you call "poor" in america is a joke compared with real poverty in other countrys? Do you understand that to take the money or any property against the owner's will is a violation of ethics and should be punished with death if necessary? Do you know that humans are moved by incentives and if you don't punish you will teach people that is ok to rob? There's no excuse to this kind of behaviour and because of people defending criminals your contry is falling to pieces, don't fall for that "progessive" agenda man, in 10 to 20 years you're going to regret, your kids gonna suffer by living in a lawless country, maybe one day they will be the ones getting robbed or even killed because of that ideology. Let's not close our eyes to bad people doing bad things. If criminals don't want to get shot, just don't commit the crime or fu k around and find out.
@@UnrealSickness When someone burglarizes "just a $400 TV set lol" they're not just stealing your money, they are molesting you of your peace of mind. Imagine how frightening it would be to walk out of your room at 2:00 AM to take a piss & you are face to face with the shadowy silhouette of an uninvited stranger in your home, you would probably freak shit and lose sleep over it for months. You don't know what they have, you don't know what their intentions are, there is no respawn button, if they get you, you're gone. People get mental health disorders from burglaries.
There was one like this in Baltimore County, Maryland and the dude was breaking into the mans truck in his driveway and in Maryland it's legal to carry on your property and you can also use force if your life is directly threatened but until then you must attempt to retreat to your house. This homeowner told the dude to fuck off and instead of doing so the man decided to attempt to stab a man holding a rifle with a screwdriver and the homeowner being confronted with a deadly threat was able to stand his ground on his property and shoot him. This suspect had believed like an idiot that since it's Maryland and gun laws there suck balls that the homeowner was in the wrong and he would go to jail for shooting him but the exact opposite happened, thief went to the hospital then to jail and homeowner was released from custody that morning and the state declined to press charges on him.
I like how you still had to go on a tangent to explain how the guy was in the right under Maryland’s pathetic gun and self defense laws, complete joke of a state
I disagree. I'm not killing someone because they're stealing a tv, but I'm absolutely ok with covering them with a weapon and letting them make the decision.
I still believe in the right to bear arms to protect person and or property especially if you work a job that comes with daily health/personal injury and death risks to feed your family and purchase your property.
It’s crazy how much stuff a moral sober carrier has to remember in order to stay in compliance with the law with someone who’s intentions are bad. The laws are really in place for criminals these days, this isn’t about this particular video but just in general.
Yep, felons with stolen handguns= a slap on the wrist from Soros backed DA’s Responsible citizens defending their life, liberty, and property= unhinged threat to society
I think we can all agree that killing a man because he's stealing a TV is objectively wrong and that's what these laws are there to stop. Yes, it does place a high burden on law abiding citizens, but that's the price we pay for being sane, sober, moral people. And heck, no one says you must exercise your rights - if responsible gun ownership is too much work, you could surrender your weapons.
@@chrisbruford if your not prepared to use force to defend your valuables send me your address so people can come rob u, I need a new Mercedes anyway 😂
They'll take their time to get there. Unless you, umm, "took care of" the perp 💀. If you did this, 💀, then they'll be there within five minutes, and you'll be in custody promptly.
It is beyond my comprehension why this isn't legal behavior everywhere. I applaud this home owner 100x. He should get a cash bounty for this in my opinion. I understand the defender didn't follow the actual law.
You know what really like that this channel is advocating open, honest, and respectable conversation about guns. We've been too conditioned to attack each other for disagreeing when everyone is just expressing their beliefs. Lets listen to each other guys
John, this is probably my favorite in, at least, the last year. It's something that I've seen and what most of those who have subscribed could reasonably expect to see. Perfect articulation that the tool was to protect persons, not property but it is reasonable to expect that a thief might present a deadly threat when challenged during effection of his larceny. Appropriate critique at the pointing and presenting, instead of a ready position. Also a reminder to know the laws in your state. I reside in a state with very clear statues codifying that "any person may arrest a felon or thief..." Sometimes you've gotta use the natural authority protected by code (because you just don't mess with my neighbors) but I'd still prefer to outsource my violence wherever possible. I think that guy deserves a good old pat-on-the-back and a quick AAR to cover the "direction of LEAST consequence."
Also as a victim of a serious theft years ago (all my power tools & hand tools & work laptop stolen from a locked job box inside a locked sea can) I can attest to the fact that sometimes stealing someone’s livelihood equates to a threat against their lives. Luckily I replaced my tools but it was at great expense, stress & consternation. At the end of the day John is right you should never use deadly force against a property theft but man it hurts when you do everything right & get your legs chopped off
Lawn care contractors at my condo damaged 5 cars from the mowers not having guards and fleeing pebbles at the tenants cars. Lawyers wanted 3k up front (why should we have to pay when we did nothing but receive damage), association and insurance companies claim it's "squirrel damage"...I lived here for years without any damage. Perfect circle shaped hole through my fog light cover is done by a squirrel eh? Body shop mechanic that quoted me, stated he's been doing body work for over 20 years and never seen a squirrel do this type of damage (scratches, consistent patterned chips in plastic bumpers, rock shaped holes, etc.) I feel your pain - were peasants and no one cares....Whelp the association isn't getting 4 months of dues since its squirrel damage. I don't care anymore hurt my credit whatever. None of that will matter very soon...Thanks for making a comment to let me vent!
I think you are absolutely wrong. The burglar made up his or her mind. Burglars should be shot dead on site with no legal repercussions. Don’t go where you don’t belong and don’t take peoples propert and you will be fine.
You missed the point bud there is no repeat offender the offender would be dead. Only good thief is a dead one. Shoot these burglars too kill. No jail time no burden on tax payers, hell it’ll even relieve the cops. Just send a wagon for the corpse
Pointing the weapon at the burglar sent a clear msg of intimidation that worked. When the robber runs into your house or makes a play at pulling you out of your car, he or she is not at Hi ready or low ready!!!! This was a win... Home owner didn’t shoot cause he didn’t have to and that’s good enough. Results couldn’t of been better
Great analysis, John! Everything you said about deadly force to stop a robbery at night time in Texas was spot-on in-line with our LTC class from several months ago! Thanks!
In Australia we're allowed to use our words to ask the burglar to kindly stop doing that. If that fails we can go inside, lock the doors and call the police, who may arrive a couple of days later to take a statement.
I think it's absolutely reasonable to assume the robber has a concealed weapon, given his hand are full of stolen goods... So brandishing the long gun was acceptable.
i wish you could just shoot robbers without fear that you could get charged with murder. this country is still pretty backwards and will side with criminals very often
As property is mostly gained by working and investing time/life, if someone is stealing your property they are stealing a part of your life. That being said I believe it is morally justifiable to shoot someone if you confront them and they refuse to stop the act of stealing your property. And the idea of not being able to physically stop them based on moral grounds is just another tool for criminals to exploit. "You cant shoot me for stealing form you, its against the law!".
Yea you can't shoot someone stealing your TV and if you do you probably are going to get 20 years to life. Even if you win a jury trial then you will get sued and the legal fees will bury all but the richest of men. Now think about that and think "Is that TV really worth all that?"
@Jason762 in the first place this guy wasn't stealing from the homeowner with the gun. He was stealing from a _neighbor_. But WHAT IF the neighbor was *selling* his TV, listed it on Craigslist and the man in question just bought it and was taking it to his car? Everyone on this thread who is so quick to say "I'd shoot somebody who was stealing stuff" risks making a *dreadful* mistake in a scenario like this where they might not have all the facts.
A couple hours of work is not equal to someone's entire life. Your money can be recovered, a life cannot. We don't live in some frontier where someone stealing from you is likely to cause you existential danger, or even significantly impact your life.
Good job on the home owner’s part in using necessary common sense on this situation and the thief didn’t bring any of his friends to the party so this was good job on handling it 👍🏼
Very good critique and excellent advice. Those "missteps" by a defender can land you in hot water with the tables turned in many states. Thanks for the guidance.
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Smart move for that bad guy to not put up a fight. In TX, the law abiding citizen definitely seems to have the legal advantage when it comes to defensive scenarios.
Texas don't fuck around with situations like this
@@Intensi0ns
Good thing too IMO. In my state, our all knowing and wise leaders have determined that we have a “duty to retreat” even inside our own homes. Total BS.
Im from Texas. Yes, in Texas the default is your justified. You may use deadly force for theft in the nighttime, and criminal mischief in the nighttime. You may use force, like pointing a weapon in this daytime situation.
I am from Texas and typically this is correct except if you live in a big city. I wouldn't be surprised if this man is charged in San Antonio. The DA's are radicals.
if this were Canadastan, The guy with the shotgun would go to jail and the other guy would get detained for an hour.
These people Are racking up 10-20 charges and just go right back and do it again. Not only does our system not work but the idea that we can't protect our possessions against these people is lunacy.
We should imprison thieves and make them pay back their debts for what they stole. We should also publicly execute rapists and murderers like the good ol days rather than give them 10-40 years in jail as a slap on the wrist.
You're talking about California we don't play that shit here in Texas!
You can protect your stuff, you just can’t take someone’s life for a tv, and rightfully so.
@@Woozlewuzzleable except that it still happens that these people get shot while thieving...
So apparently the threat of getting smoked still isn't enough to dissuade some burglars.
If you get the chance to kill them do it. Then just don't tell anyone you did it. The world will quitlety become a much better place.
My nephew lives in the state of Washington, used his rifle to get an intruder to lie face-down, and held him there until local police came. But while waiting for the cops, my nephew talked to this intruder to get his story and found that the guy was receptive to some ideas for improving his life. By the time cops arrived, my nephew had basically become the intruder's mentor, and 9 months later this former criminal had graduated from a skills-trade apprenticeship program and started his career as a welder with a commercial construction company. Happy ending
What a genuine story I’d like to hear nowadays instead of hearing about people against people out for blood. It’s nothing like that and shouldn’t be like that glad to hear no one end up getting hurt or killed and worked out well for everybody in youre story god bless you and your families hearts Sir or mam(whatever abbreviation you prefer lol)🙏🙏
That's good to hear! Though, one has to wonder if he would have been as receptive to changing his life if he hadn't had a rifle pointed at him. Which I've heard can have a sobering effect on some.
Wow, that’s awesome; I love hearing wholesome, positive stories about humans helping other humans to make wise decisions. It’s Americans like your nephew that make the world a better place, one person at a time. Thanks for sharing!
So the home intruder did not get any jail time? How long was the apprenticeship?
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This is what we as a community need more of. You can’t just come into our neighborhood and steal mine or my neighbors things that we work hard for.
Awesome video!
If this was California, the thief would have sued for a civil rights violation...he was denied his state guaranteed right to be able to steal anything he wants.
If this was in Texas, the guy with the shotgun could have been given life in prison if the thief attacked him and he killed him.
What more beta advice on him telling people to let the robbers go and give the cops a description? This channel is one of the reasons our country has gotten so soft against crime!
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Well no Texas has stand your ground laws. Which all states should have. Granted the media could of made this a race thing and we see parents come out crying about how "he did nothing wrong" etc. Kangaroo courts.
@@craig1784 it was in San Antonio, Texas.
Guy thought he was gonna try some daytime LA theft and forgot he was in Texas. Well done for the home owner. These guys can get these apartment style keys easily at times and have way with your house. I worked in maintenance for years. Not hard to do. That being said, something about a shotgun puts a chill in you like not many things can.
Especially when you rack it. So cold and sinister sounding
Germany protested the use of pump shotguns in 1918 during WW1. American soldiers were using it to clear trenches, earning the nickname "trench broom" or "trench sweeper," because it would take out multiple enemy at once. They threatened to execute any POW caught with a shotgun or shells. America responded with a lengthy treatise on war, basically stating that Germany was in no position to object since they used many tools of war that could be said to violate rules established in the Hague Conventions, and that shotguns do not cause undue suffering in their ability to kill, to which they never received a response. American forces continue to use shotguns to this day.
@@sundaynightdrunk i just learned something new. I will now be purchasing a shotgun because that sounds cool as hell. I will protect my trench
It's the knowing that a shotgun will shred you and blow off chunks where as a rifle or pistol bullet will penetrate and leave a hole but the shotgun can literally leave you unrecognizable and unidentifiable unless they manage to find a tooth somewhere or if you have identifiable tattoos.
@@younggunner9482 That's a modern shotgun loaded with buckshot at close range. The shells they used in WW1 had nine pellets, each roughly the size of a .32 bullet. They'd take out multiple combatants at a distance due to the spread of the pellets and the Germans' penchant for grouping men close together, and the they objected to that fact. The American response countered that the Germans were using machine guns that did the same spraying of rounds into multiple enemy. You can read the response online, if you're interested.
If a cop can point a gun at unknown threats then so can I. They claim officer safety. I think citizens should be able to do the same thing
That seems like a valid point to me.How come so many cops are being shot for the last 2-3 years? i blame part of it on the running of our country and part on our liberal justice system that feels the need to let criminals off to easily only to have them repeat the crimes.WE are literally seeing the decay of the USA in real time.
@@joepublic2894 i don't know about where you live. but here in Arkansas. how the criminal justice system works is =
if said offenders crime suggest that they we reoffend soon they will slap on the wrist( minimum sentence ).
if said offenders crime suggest it's a one time thing. they throw the book at them( max sentence ).
the reasoning behind this is =
if you commit crimes often. the prosecutors, the public defenders, and the judges make more money. ( whether its over or under the table )
if you made a mistake and have a low chance of breaking the law again. the longer they can keep you in jail or prison. the more money said jails and prisons get from the federal government.
its all about the money$
In many cases a citizen can avoid being in such a situation. The cop's job is to put themselves into those situations. Though I still agree, self-defense is a natural right, from all threats.
Exactly!
In my state, you car rob people, their homes, the grocery stores, pretty much anywhere and as long as it less then 1k you’re ok to go home. Oh you can also molest and be a pedophile & get lighter sentences now.
Best part is, is when the police get theses monster and the civilians cry and criticize the police, but the monster? Oh well, Who cares.
Fool stealing a tv like it's the early 80's. 😆😆😆 lol... but dude did everything right. Good going.
Probably get $20 for it. Morons
The real irony is a tv in the 80s weighed 50lbs vs a tv now weights maybe 10.
@@_Mooner no lmao easily 200+. Craigslist, eBay, Facebook marketplace etc. Best way to sell stolen goods. Can sell full market price or lower. Now whether or not thieves are that intelligent or patient and just go to a pawn shop is different
@@User-54631 they weighed WAY more than that! I'm over 50yrs old and those wooden encased, tube TV's, from the 70's and 80's weighed a ton...from Wyoming USA 🇺🇸 🤠
C'mon man! It was just a 'mostly peaceful' protest!😒
(As seen on T.V.)
Just remember guys, if the DA tries to ever charge you for aiming that firearm at the criminal, take no plea bargains and request your jury trial. The DA already knows they will never get 6-12 people to unanimously convict.
Hell yeah
@@notpublic8961 Who said anything about breaking the law? Innocent people are commonly charged up just out of public pressure.
@@notpublic8961 someone trying to steal something from me and I aim a gun at them to get my property back that's an intimidation tactic. And you wanna sit here on your high horse and act like you know what you're talking about when you can't even get the charge right? 🤦🏻♂️ the charge would be "pointing and presenting a firearm" now, as soon as you shoot at them or shoot them its aggravated assault or attempted murder. Me personally I got charged with 2 attempted murders in a situation where I had to defend my self and they tried to get me to plead to aggravated assault. He does sound kind of silly saying let a jury completely hold your life in their hands but still. If you gonna talk shit at least know what you're talking about.
@@notpublic8961 bro you are such a corn ball 😂" Sorry, sport." What the hell are you The Great Gatsby? I ain't even finna read all that 🤡
It depends your state tho. I live in a liberal state so the prosecutor would say he had a duty to retreat before drawing his firesrm as he wasn't inside the home
I love this. Man stops man from stealing the neighbors stuff. People helping people. He did everything perfect. His choice of firearm, his movement, his clarity to control the situation. Bravo
In movies they combine kung fu with gun work. Best example would be a rumble in the bronx. This is what I want to see more of.
Choice of firearm?
It's advisable to follow more than one defense channel. ONLY watching ASP will leave you unprepared. No 1 man can teach it all.
I, as a former NRA instructor, understand the laws and always presented facts from a legal standpoint. However, I’ve always felt it to be absurd that civilians have to wait for the criminal to get the drop on them before responding while an officer can draw his pistol on you for non-compliance.
@@sahhull or because he is to obese to chase a suspect on foot 💀
What would your law/policy on when you are legally allowed to use deadly force?
@@joshdavis3743 most states agree it’s okay when one fears greatly for his or her safety including serious injury up to potential death.
That includes pulling a gun on someone who is unarmed. An example would be a woman who is being attacked by a big strong man trying to rape her.
Most states also have a castle doctrine law which states you have every right to defend yourself and your home, as the home is a private, safe intimate space where only invited guests are allowed.
or you could be california and had this been california guy with the shotgun would’ve been charged
In Texas It's not really true that you have to wait for the suspect to use deadly force against you.. The threat of deadly force is considered reasonable force no different as if you were to pepper spray him, cuff him or use your hands to physically stop him from stealing.
This is something you're required to learn when you take your LTC and something your self defense lawyer will hammer into your head.
Stand your ground and castle doctrine protect you against criminals.
I learned a long time ago (as a result of being a victim of a crime) the laws are often written to protect the criminal. Just think of all the things the law abiding citizen has to think about when coming in contact with a criminal in the act.
To my understanding, basically the Western law tradition (English common law?) is 'it is better to let the 10 criminals go free, than to wrongly punish 1 innocent person'. The ''assumption of innocent until proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt' is a prime example of this mind set. Especially when it come to dealy force/ death penalty. One of the rationales is, you always have a chance to catch the criminal if he continues his wrong doing, but once you punished an innocent person (taken time out of his life by throwing him into prison, or cut his hand off for stealing, for example), you can never compensate that. The opposite is to be very hard on crime but occationaly, or very often, you will punish the wrong person. Like what they do in China.
Western laws* be precise about it .. cuz cuz the eastern part of the world you get crazy sentences for shit like that .. and if you murder someone you will get the death sentence .. eye for eye is the best human law ever created
@@dickiewongtk logic is flawed. citizen level versus state level actions here.
What you describe is correct for STATE level action. 100% always innocent until proven guilty. at the citizen level this is (or should) be very very different.
the citizen SHOULD have some duty to avoid lethal action but not onerous duty. its pretty simple. give a reasonable order (stop) comply? NOT allowed to shoot. Don't Comply? Shoot. their choice. they could very easily comply and do as they are commanded to do and everyone gets to go home alive.
""Just think of all the things the law abiding citizen has to think about when coming in contact with a criminal in the act.""
Shouldn't you have to think about a lot of things before you shoot someone?
The basis for our justice system is that the punishment fits the crime. If we disregard that, all hell will break lose.
Lol facts
“If violent crime is to be curbed, it is only the intended victim who can do it. The felon does not fear the police, and he fears neither judge nor jury. Therefore what he must be taught to fear is his victim.” - Lt. Col. Jeff Cooper, USMC
Amazin!
Nuff said 👏
I like that quote!
Psychopath
So they are afraid of the executioner
I dont think it is us that have to ask the question "Is stealing personal property worth taking a life over?". No. I think its up to the burglar that has to ask themselves "Is stealing personal property worth losing my life over?".
Should be the case, at the same time it's a Grey area. A guy stealing a TV doesn't by default deserve death for that action alone. At the same time though, we are only legally allowed to pretend we can shoot so it's a false defense and the law just can't expect everyone to be able to go hand to hand or simply let the guy walk with our property for them to "handle it", law enforcement can also attest to non lethal measures not being reliable so its just Grey all around. This is where situational awareness and preventative measures come in.
@@MrKing-qd7gi he is a multiple times offender of the same thing in the same place..He cant learn
Nailed it!! As far as I am concerned, if someone breaks into the home of my family, entering without my permission and without me knowing his intentions, he has made the decision that his life is forfeit. My wife and daughter's lives will trump that of any invader on any given day.
Exactly! That's how it should be!!
@@MrKing-qd7gi claymore in the door step," i'm sorry officer i forgot it was there, my bad"
Sorry, in Texas the law may say you can only use deadly force to protect property at night but just try to find a jury to convict a fellow Texan for doing the scumbag in.
It’s called Austin. They might as well make you give your left nut to the bad guy as some condolence
If your in Austin, or Houston there are enough California transplants there I wouldn’t trust them
@@ks_hunter7327 exactly, we talking Texas, or Austin?
Any time you fear for your life or serious bodily harm. Daylight or dark. It is legal to regain possession of your property if you catch someone. Too bad for them if they make you fear for your life doing so.
Bruh he pointed a gun at the dude over a tv while no weapons are seen. How is he in fear of his life when he’s the on pointing a gun over a tv that’s not even his lol
“If I drop the TV, then you have me for destruction of private property.”
One of the best movies ever!
Filmed in my hometown, Mansfield Ohio. Dad and Mom both worked at that prison.
And destruction of evidence.
What movie is that??? Quote is familiar can't place it with a movie tho.
@@lokisingularity3394 The Shawshank Redemption
Very first thing I thought of when I saw him carrying the TV... lol
It's absurd that we could see someone committing a crime but we have to wait until they"become" threatening to do something. We are always behind the curve. My property i.e. house, car, TV is my life. Sick of this bs and we wonder why society has gone to shit
Too much drugs and guns.
Castle Doctrine her in NC... Break into my house and there will only be one side of the story told.
@@bobwoods1302 Just drugs. Obviously this video proves you wrong on responsible gun ownership
your fucking car isn't worth more than someone's life, even when they're a shit human
You really want to kill someone over a TV?
I wish there were more laws that allowed this. Pretty sure burglar would think twice before breaking in.
I agree, but now is the best time to defend yourself at all costs despite the laws in your state. Our community is growing and we are voicing our RIGHTS. We are in a time even if we are wrongfully convicted, any new case like that will almost certainly catch a lot of attention and put a lot of pressure on the DAs and state officials to quit punishing CITIZENS who constitutionally SELF PROTECT themselves, because they know they won't hear the end of it from us if they keep up w their bullshit. This nonsense cannot be tolerated no more
Cali would probably try to charge the defender with false imprisonment for holding the criminal
@@ldope3904 not if it's a soros DA, they just try to redistribute justice by letting the poor criminal go free and punish the defender
@@LateNightRewrites Have people forgot there are more of us than they are of them? It worked for the George Flloyd movement, for all the wrong reasons. I know it can be done for the right reasons, and it must be organized and calculated, not wild wild west like the capitol...lol
Funny enough, the "peaceful" BLM rights fucked the police over quite a bit and now look what we have... at least as the West Coast goes.. it's tragic seeing this place and brainwashed ppl enabling criminals
Agree. In my view, the laws in other places need to be changed to allow legal defense of property with lethal force. To have to stand there , with gun in hand and the means to stop him, while the thief calmly walks off with my property, because if I shoot him I'm the one who gets prosecuted and sent to jail, while the thief, who was probably armed too, if caught by Police is out on bail the next day, if not released all together, is totally ridiculous. It's one reason there's so much crime in this country. The laws regarding this all Western countries are upside down on this issue.
Your simple "stuff" can be invaluable towards providing for your family.
That's the reason they use to hang horse thieves.
@@haywoodchablomi8037 And it cut down on horse thievery greatly!
@@haywoodchablomi8037 It's the reason we have guns, no?
A lot of preps that are caught after a struggle say, "I thought I could take him". The homeowner's overwhelming show of force removed any hint of the burglar getting the upper hand. Kind of like how the cops will use 10 men to serve a warrant.
Reminds me of the 12ga video where the guy puts his arm up like 'what ya gonna shoot me?!' and the guy blows a chunk of his arm into the storefront while he screams at a wiggly noodle.
If they were taking about me they'd be right, best I can do is put my hands up and beg for mercy.
Absolutely!
America is such a sad and twisted country, u can shoot a man dead for a $400 TV set lol
@@UnrealSickness Yeah it's crazy that some people think their life is worth less than some guys TV they want.
Oh, I bet that felt so satisfying for the homeowner to finally catch him. I'm sure we've all had an experience where we've been scammed or stolen from and you can't do anything about it.
Most burglars will become violent when caught in the act. You should not expect them to comply like this one did.
Ehhh to an extent more often then not someone hears you rack a round into a shotgun 1st they shit there pants 2nd there on the ground with a quickness
Anyone who would run down a barrel should be cosidered rabid and should be dispatched
That’s simply not true. Most will run away.
@@Yeahyeah116 i think the Kyle Rittenhouse situation proves they won't all run away, even if one person is dead on the pavement sometimes they still won't run
@@Yeahyeah116 most yeah
Mom would say: “you do wrong, wrong will do you.” Great job homeowner!
If I catch somebody inside my home I consider it a threat you're a stupid dumb idiot won't you go to f****** Russia dick head
Mom is a smart women!
That saying is great - I'm going to be using that! Thanks to your mom.
I don’t think anyone says that.
It just amazes me how you make everything so complicated, saying things like, his trigger finger position, the direction he’s pointing at and so forth. This guy stopped the criminal from stealing. Yes it’s property but someone worked hard to pay for it. The guy did the right thing. He didn’t shoot, the police were called and you let them sort it out. A Good Samaritan. We need more people like him.
John's just trying to make sure people are safe in the "fight after the fight." As tempting it would be to fill immediately a thief full of holes, just remember that it could be frowned upon once the cops arrive, once the journalists arrive and put their spin on the story, and once the justice system gets involved. Unfortunately, what this man did in Texas might not be acceptable elsewhere and it's up to us as citizens to know the law and to change it if it is unjust.
There's always things to learn from others, better to learn about it here than accidentally blow someone away yourself in a similar situation just because your finger is on the trigger and you trip on a step or something.
This guy knows the law and is trying to keep people out of trouble. The judge is not going to call you to court to get your opinion about "the right thing."
When you notice trash, you gotta take it out. Bravo! 👏
"Its hard to find a job and I don't want to spend the time improving myself, I'm just gonna take what other people have worked hard for instead."
Lmao 🤣
Why not just form a political party and vote for other people's stuff? That way the politicians can get in on the grift.
If you don't want people to vote to steal from you, YOU are greedy.
@MannyP you don't need parents to know not to steal. They just wanna do it. Lost souls. And possibly some buck shot. It's simple. Don't take people's stuff and bad things won't happen.
@@that1guy487 Why would I vote for anyone to take what I worked for? Explain.
@@tonyhamilton7785 I want "free" healthcare. Paid for by you, of course
As far as I’m concerned when you decide to break into someone’s house and shatter their sense of security you’ve forfeited your civil rights. I’m not saying let’s blow people away willy nilly but you better be prepared for what you get in return.
@J “Hey bad guy! Will you please let me know your intentions so I don’t arbitrarily shoot you?” Oops. I’m dead.
criminsls dont deserve the rights tehy denied thier victims
Only the state has the right? Really what if they are just letting criminals walk? No charges so no crime was ever convicted
Had a customer walking to her car when she noticed someone stealing a catalytic converter from someone's truck. As she went to go confront him, he immediate slid out and pulled a pistol on her. She ran away to get help. He ended up leaving with not only the converter, but a ton of her groceries.
Uh no? Civil rights should apply to the accused and the guilty just as much as they do to innocent people. The justice system (and its rules pertaining to self defense) should not aim to be a retributive one, but rehabilitative one. Treating people who break the law as irredeemable scum not deserving of rights only guarantees they will continue to break the law because if everyone says they are hopeless trash then they must be or no one would think so. But if you give them an opportunity and an incentive to change for the better, then they just might and that saves everyone a lot more time, work, and money.
I 100% guarantee you that if it had been the cops that showed up to stop that burglar, they'd have had weapons drawn. If it's okay for the cops to use the threat of deadly force to prevent a theft, it's okay for private citizens to do it too.
You Betcha!! :-)
no shit, only leftists lunatics think otherwise
Bad argument. A sovereign state has a monopoly of violence, which is similar to the monopoly of law. You live in a country which says murder is punishable, but if a country can make laws then a citizen can make laws also! So a citizen should be able to murder people because if the state can make the law so can citizens. Terrible, terrible argument. USA is fucked anyway, gl in your 3rd world country that's on the brink of civil war.
IS IT":
A nice opinion that people can agree with? Y
The actual current law? N
Can you end up in jail living among much worse than a thief using that logic? Y
@@Einwetok Then the law is wrong, and cops do not serve us.
A guy breaks into your home and that is not a deadly threat? Wow 😂
It's a hard concept for an idiot like yourself.
A guy breaks into your home and you point a gun at him, the "law" is whatever you decide in that moment.
John, I usually agree with your analysis of these videos, but not this time. If a criminal is willing to break in to my home, he IS a deadly threat. Case in point: I had a neighbor break into my townhouse and steal some guns. I caught him on video but he had a mask covering his nose and mouth. No arrest, police told me a prosecutor would not charge the criminal because a jury wouldn't convict. After they left, I found that he had loaded my shotgun in case I came in on him. The next summer he was arrested for murder during a break-in. Burglars ARE a deadly threat until they prove they are not.
That sucks but you can't issue a death penalty for stealing. Only if the suspect is armed in your house.
@@blackjohnny9570 I agree with the no death penalty for stealing. guy is making off with a tv. you're holding a shotgun and tell him to stop. he just keeps walking away, with the tv too! of course you don't just shoot him in the back. I disagree with the "only" restrictions though. there are many ways the suspect can be a deadly threat, even if they appear unarmed. if it looks like a deadly threat to you or others then I'd say it's ok to fire anytime and anywhere, preferably first.
Damn right.
@@barjrob John is incorrect. He is misinterpreting the law, because as it is written there are no "during nighttime" restrictions regarding stopping "arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery". The "during nighttime" restrictions are SPECIFICALLY and ONLY attached to "theft during the nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime".
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The homeowner did a good job. Especially when you consider that the thief had been there before. That fact alone is likely to increase the emotional response to catching the guy stealing again. Score one for the good guys.👍🏻
Now the DA will throw out any charges because of inequality or something dumb like that. He's now a victim because the mean old property owner pointed a gun at him.
@@ralphlaguna6168 Not in Texas, brandishing for the purpose of stopping a crime is legal there. Not like in the states that harbor criminals. You should look up they guy who killed two thieves leaving his neighbor's house with an armload of stuff. 911 operator even told him not to go outside, but it was 100% legal under Texas law.
Yeah I'm sure in the back of his head he would have thought about wasting the guy since he had been robbed before. He made a good call to keep his emotions in check and instead of wasted the robber he told his gf to call the cops and let them handle the situation.
@@ralphlaguna6168 r u fucking kidding me
@@haywoodchablomi8037 It isn't you can use force not deadly force during the day.
If he had not come out with that weapon the criminal may not have taken him seriously and it could have lead to a physical altercation or worse. You can’t reason with unreasonable people.
Exactly this! I see no wrong with pointing a gun at criminals. As long as you don't shoot them out of malice without reason. Also WTF is this "let 'em go" bullcrap?? Scare those MFers and make them wait for police at gunpoint for what I care, stop being pussies! With hard-headed people one needs to be heavy handed...
@@LikePhoenixFromAshes what would you have done if the criminal put down your television set and took off running?
@@georgemclane1472 That is somehow valid question I did not think about. After pondering a minute, I'd make sure to not leave a culprit A WAY to run. Make him cornered; as bad as it sounds bad, if they run, one have potentially much bigger problem than lawsuits: one can have disgruntled, full of malice not thinking straight burglar that can attempt murder later on. It is not far fetched, I've heard NUMEROUS times that shit happened... Even under this here ASP video, scroll down and search for it. In my book defender must be as ruthless if not more than attacker and must dominate situation to such extent that attacker would not have even ground to stand on. If perp is taking your TV? Corner him before he could do anything. If perp is brandishing weapon, shoot him to neutralize before he even thinks about pointing at you. I know this is just idle talk, but being frank, it's the law that is unrealistic...
@@LikePhoenixFromAshes let me simplify your answer. If you want to shoot somebody in the back for stealing merchandise you deserve to go to prison for the rest of your life and lose everything you've ever worked hard for
@@georgemclane1472 Or I'd like to reiterate my previous point: if suspect is already running after leaving TV or any other stuff, leave him. Running after suspects is police job, that I agree 100% with John. On the other hand, I don't agree on (not Johns, but general) opinion that shooting someone in the back is bad. NO, defender was/is under attack as long as there are no signs of enemy in sight and one can logically presume that the thread had ended. This is fairly easy as long as you can go away to safety from some random spot. If anything happened close to my home/house full of significant ones and family? I'm fine using effing tanks for all I care, anybody/anything can go F themselves until my side is safe so shooting potentially dangerous perps for them to go away is okay. (once again, I'm talking about perps RUNNING away full speed, which indicates they are done fighting. If they as much as flinch during retreat, smoke 'em without batting an eye.) (edit: I've written this post BEFORE @George McLane wrote his post above. This is not direct reply)
I agree. Nobody takes personal accountability any more. If you don’t want to get shot, don’t steal people’s stuff!!
That's awesome the neighbors watch out for each other. Same thing happened to me in Columbus GA, my neighbor pulled his gun to get the robbers that broke into my apartment before I got home and cops were called. That's what needs to be done to stop of this
Whisperwood?
@@zekeschriver1554 yes it was wisperwood. Do you stay in that area? If so hopefully not whisperwood
A well armed society is a polite society.
12GA is a lot faster than police response. Excellent advice given.
Yeah the wild west was known for its politeness...
Wouldn’t really call shootings “polite”.
@@CityWhisperer shootings aren't polite. chuck didn't say that. there's a difference between shooting up places and owning a firearm
The most overused saying. By that logic, Texas should be the most polite place on earth. I’m 2a all day but I reject the notion that more guns makes a better society. Look at the US right now, the most guns per capita in the world and still riddled with crime of all types. Fixing a society is more complex than just giving everyone guns.
@@wyaldkingdom
Most of those crimes you speak of take place in cities known to be strict on guns…. Remove cities like Chicago,Detroit and LA and the US becomes one of the most crime free countries on the planet
Home owner handled it perfectly!
It's amazing how quickly a gun can change someone's stance!
Democrats are trying to change that as well.
@ghostmofo5829 What a slimy comment. Bringing up nonsense politics (especially with garbage statements) just makes you look like a fool. "Democrats" or "left-wingers" or whatever stupid label for your *opposition,* own guns too.
Texas gun laws are great, almost as good as Oklahoma where I reside. A person has the right to protect his person, his family, and his property. Seems like a pretty easy concept.
Texas OR Oklahoma if you kill someone stealing from you during daylight you are 100% going to jail. simple. you do NOT have the right to use DEADLY force to protect PROPERY during daylight hours. Dont be an idiot.
@@zoggrog8823 if you’re so informed then when can you use deadly force? Right to protect property doesn’t make sense if your shoot someone that’s stealing your items such as a car or another thing of great value
@@haff1088 He stated in the video Texas penal code 9.4.2 only authorizes the use of deadly force to be used to protect property against theft occuring durning the night
@@ClutchUp91 I understand. Now, do you need to catch it on film? I have a lot of questions but it’s really because of how bad I’ve been hearing houston is becoming and I’m moving there soon. Last thing I want while trying to raise my family as a sober and moral person is to be caught off guard trying to defend my famlily or property.
@@zoggrog8823 False. There are no "during nighttime" restrictions regarding stopping the crimes of "arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery". The restrictions John mentions are specifically and only "theft during the nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime".
If someone's a thief. They need shit like this to happen. They won't ever learn until they have an encounter such as this. Legally speaking, sure this is a bad idea (depending on state laws) But I have a strong hate towards anyone that steals, unless it's food or water. Yes I do value my property more than some low life scum bags life.
The foundation of being a free man is to have property rights ... a free man cannot allow his property to be stolen! Indeed, each citizen must defend (to death, if required) his civil rights, which includes property.
That last sentence is rough to read. It's good that you're at least honest about it (a lot of people on here aren't) but that's a really sad conclusion.
@@milesmccall2301 Why? because I hate thieves and value my property more than a human life?
@@ItsShifty97 Yeah man. That's pretty sad.
@@milesmccall2301 Ok lets put it in perspective. The thieves value my things more than their life. Make you feel better?
"Cant assume hes a home invader" as he came out from invading a home
It might seem obvious, but you never actually _know_ until it's too late. A Texas conceal carrier once ran in and shot a gas station clerk while he was brandishing a shotgun at the real perpetrator.
@@sninctbur3726 a classic example of showing up late and making dangerous assumptions. could have asked the shotgun clerk to lay down his weapon etc instead of immediately popping a round off
@@sninctbur3726 LOL, rescuing gas station clerks in public is different than defending your home. If I did not authorize you to be in my home at night, I have an instant understanding of the situation-it's you or me and it ain't gonna be me.
I don't know what's more amazing....
The fact that he was able to prevent a robbery with perfect timing, or the fact that this was actually shown on CNN 😂
what did they say?? that it was racist and white suppremisist or something???
Imo this is how it should go down. No violence, stopped a criminal.
It would have been WORSE if he used "non lethal" force and it turned into an altercation that could have gotten people hurt.
This went perfectly
@@lepton31415 doesn't mean i won't shoot, i'll definitely do some time again. It's worth sitting in jail for a lil while if it means one less rat piece of shit thief breathing. If it was an ideal world tho, I'd love to leave them severely physically or mentally disabled for the rest of their pathetic lives, make them suffer for every breath
@@lepton31415...unfortunately
@@lepton31415 Sorry, Randy but I just can't see myself offering my computer, cell phone and wallet to a guy who just walked out of my house with my 4,000 dollar TV. I hope no one ever finds out who you are or where you live. They will definitely know they are welcomed to steal your stuff and maybe even be asked to stay for dinner.
If we chopped off his hands, he wouldn't be outside doing nothing! Nobody's got nothing to lose, so they keep victimizing the working man.
@@lepton31415 Asking is one thing. I will give my him the shirt off my back and offer him all the hot meals I can until he gets up on his feet and can survive on his own. STEALING from me is different animal. Ask me and I will give you all I can. STEAL from me... no.
In the defense of property conversation, I think a lot of people neglect to think of the other things lost in a home invasion. A sense of security in your own home. Restful sleep. Trust in your community. These things are stolen too.
I once had someone try to kick my back door in while I was asleep.
I didn't even know until I was out mowing the lawn the next day.
The realization that I had slept through that was very unsettling.
I've slept within arms reach of a weapon ever since.
With the setup I have in place a crook would definitely break something in execution (ie. pelvis, knees, ankles etc) not worth the try.
You went from defense of property to home invasion. You cannot shoot someone "protecting" or "defending" property. Home invasion? Armed burglar? Threatening you with bodily harm? That's a different story. I hope you know the difference. Not knowing could land you in the gray bar hotel.
John Locke would disagree with you. It's "life, liberty, and property" that makes a free man. Nobody has the right to take that from you.
John Locke was talking about personal property, not your fucking flat screen. nobody deserves to die over a TV
LMMFAO
The government does since you acquired it with their money. You are just a steward. I’m not advocating and behalf of thieves I’m advocating against the tyrannical nature of somebody that can put material gains over the value of another human being’s life. It’s not really your property you don’t actually own anything your bills will never stop coming and you will always have to find a way to get more money to afford anything you have or want in the future. It’s a perpetual system that doesn’t benefit you cause your money will always be worth less tomorrow and you’ll blame everybody else but those responsible. You play the game that they set up and then justify killing other players who are no real threat to your safety. So in essence you can devalue human life to where it is lesser than a television all while claiming moral justification. They have truly pitted us against each other and keep the riches for themselves. Screw your television he would be doing you a favor if you wanted to have any sense or thoughts of your own. You play their game they own you and you would rather blame the TV thief for a broken society. Stupid
@@randygarbrecht3185 You are speaking in collectiveness nonsense. You blame society for the actions of the individual. Do you know why I would never be killed for braking into another persons home? Because I choose not to take that action.
Stop with the dialectic crap comrade. I don't beg the government for money, I work for it. I find much satisfaction in my work and people are willing to trade for it. That is the bases for society. People who take rather than make brakes society, so that tv thief IS actively braking society.
People that spew this sort of philosophy you have breeds a culture of decay. Theft mostly affects the poor neighborhoods and you say that they would be better off without. How disgusting.
@@MeSoTrashed you pick and choose your moral indignation based off of laws written by better men than would name themselves MeSoTrashed on a public platform. First and foremost laws pertaining to executing a person who enters your home varies from state to state. That bullshit bravado could get you locked up thinking your the judge jury and executioner. Secondly I will double down on anybody that can downgrade human life to less than the cost of replacing a television. Society is to blame for what society is. Both are individuals, the robber and the homeowner although for some reason you choose to delineate the latter as an actor on behalf of society. Your logic is half assed and hypocritical. How the fuck does that work? Society is only those in which you choose to agree with? Or only those who benefit from the systems in which are tailored to them? Every singe fucking society has thieves asshat. Most of ours are in charge of industry and politics but I don’t see you and your society with your guns doing a fucking thing about it. You’re milktoast at best but probably just watched too much war porn as a child. Fuck your TV it’ll need to be replaced before your done renting to own it.
If that was in Georgia….In an apartment complex,the guy with the shotgun would have gone STRAIGHT TO JAIL 😂😂
The fact that he says be “cautious” pointing a gun at the guy robbing your house says everything you need to know about our justice system in America.
"you wanna fuck with private people, we will fuck you up with our guns"
is the message I was hoping to see from Americans in the future. It seems to be effective from the past.
San antonio is just a stupid place in texas probably the worst place to have a gun in texas cause of how left swinging they are
@@user-xw4vg1vy5e
My parents used to say, we are now protecting the rights of the criminals. That was the 70’s That was 45 years ago.
When did this happen in America?
Didn’t they used to hang horse thieves?
@@user-xw4vg1vy5e Absolutely! Just take a look at europe, japan or other countries! Burglars everywhere, violence, school shootings, cops die on the streets every single day. That’s the way we are heading!
@@andrewurban8412 you are high af, you must be thinking of austin
Completely lawful, end of story. Deadly force is firing the weapon there John, not pointing it.
What about a buttstock to the skull?
Can be assault with a deadly weapon or brandishing if you are pointing it depending on your state laws.
@@outdrguy usually it’s not that it’s usually aggravated menacing in my state assault has to be contact or attempt to make contact essentially
@@outdrguy dude this is Texas. We can kill criminals for many reasons here. We're judging by our peers that think like we do. It's a great state.
Yeah, but an accidental discharge would be bad for both parties. 1. Don't point your gun at anyone you don't want to kill 2. On target, on trigger, off target off trigger. These are biblical in the firearm 🌎. But yeah, it was lawful.
I love living in Texas ♥ Respect from the great lone star state, keep doing your thing bud!
People that say "if you kill a thief then you value your property over other human life" don't understand that, actually, its not ME who values my stuff over their lives, is the intruder who values my stuff over their lives. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes!
I really DISLIKE the way our law is so protective of the crooks working environment instead of the victims.
Termination is the only solution for these punks because their gonna keep doing it
sad
@@proudamerican964 hilarious and tiny pp. Take my upvote
@@sages101 based. Keep up the good work.
@@Thehandsomeliberal thieves should be able to be shot.
2:56 I’ve seen on Cops many times the Police pointing their firearms at people who they have not yet identified as a deadly threat when they make a stop on vehicles or going in to burglaries. In my opinion this is what this guy is doing to protect himself by not allowing the burglar to possibly get the drop on him. He did a great job and also stopped himself from being prosecuted for excessive force by going hands on. Just my opinion from the UK so open to discussion not argument.👍🏼
Your not a cop
And the perp already had the drop on him - he could have easily dropped that TV on the owner, thereby injuring him.
@@tonym2847 what about his “not a cop”?
Cops drawing down on people was often not even investigated, even when it was gross negligent and completely unwarranted.
Regular citizens aren't getting the benefit of the doubt from either the DA or the grand jury
Sir, you are right.Any person LE or otherwise has no right to pull in a blind scenario. If they know of course they have a warrant that's different.So many LE have no business in the business.
We recently suffered the loss of a kid holding a gallon jug at the hands of LE
Great job in pointing out the nighttime qualification in TX law. That part needs to change and shooting thieves needs to be legal in all 50 states. Does anyone else think that might slow down all the stealing?
For sure. Violent crime sharply increases in American jurisdictions that ban firearms or severely restrict their use. Gun laws almost exclusively benefit criminals and only work to prevent law-abiding citizens from defending themselves. Criminals are (generally) far less likely to brazenly rob someone if there is a decent chance the victim has a gun.
What would slow down stealing is eliminating poverty and giving opportunities to people. Ofc even if you are poor and have few opportunities stealing is not ok. Explaining is not excusing, explaining is understanding, and understanding is what we need to solve our problems
@@paifu. 🤡🤡🤡 everyone in this country has same opportunity to make something of themselves. Thievery needs no more understanding from me. That person is violating my liberty and if something bad happens to them as the result of that violation it's squarely on them as it was their decision to rob me of my liberty.
Yeppers
@@CN-ir1xm "Everyone in this country has the same opportunities"
Wow you really have sunk deep in the Capitalist realism. You're probably pretty privileged if I had to guess.
Plot twist, it was just a tv repair man picking up a scheduled repair for his shop lol.
if in France, in my country, on the land of my ancestors, I do exactly the SAME thing as this gentleman who defends his property, well it will be me that the "Justice" will put in prison. cherish your right to be armed, if it is taken away from you, you will not be able to do anything and the thieves and scum will be the masters.
Yeah, y'all are long past due to pull out the guillotines again... like... WAY PAST DUE.
The thieves and scum are the ones making the laws in most states it seems.
Well written
@@smokysantana... hit the nail on the head there.
@@WestinsChannel there are a few of us who want to take it out, trust me. it is above all that the republic disarmed the French after the second war, and my people have totally forgotten that they had a great culture of firearms in the past..
I have always appreciated the persuasiveness of a shotgun.
After all the stuff going on in Houston, I needed to see something like this.
You got that right Houston has become a typical lawless shit hole.
@@christopherarnett2851 don't I know Katy too.
@@christopherarnett2851 accept your refugees from California and Mexico and Afghanistan and el Salvado and on and on and on- joe puppet biden
I don't wanna eat a load of buckshot ! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
There is nothing wrong with being mentally prepared for 'X' Scenario. Especially if there is a known criminal being a criminal.
It is entirely morally acceptable to use deadly force to defend your property. I spent hours of my life that I'll never get back working to earn the money I spent on my things, I'm not going to allow an IMMORAL thief to take from me.
@Ben David I bet people would try to blame you for not having "the right insurance" instead of holding the thief responsible
Incorrect. You will end up in prison after a judge deems it morally unacceptable
@@DiscoStfu property rights are human rights, no man can "decide" what rights we have.
You might want to update your understanding of what "immoral" means, to include "morally acceptable".
@Ben David So you set the time it takes to make $6000 against the entirety of their existence, start to finish? I don't know whether you are a Christian or not, but you might want to ask WWJD (by the way, I am an agnostic).
The argument that the defendant who kills someone that is stealing from them doesn't care about the criminals life misdirects the moral responsibility. The moral responsibility is held on the individual committing the crime, the criminal doesn't care about his OWN life. Also don't forget property and money represents your time, hard work and future ability to provide for yourself. So the robber is taking part of your life and livelihood. The people mudding the water in support of criminals are responsible for the increase of theft and violent crime. You are transferring responsibility from the criminals to the victim.
Thank you for this comment very well said and definitely true. Stop shifting the blame of criminals to the victims. As a former victim of theft and someone who's struggled through homelessness I believe my stuff is part of my life and happiness. I shouldn't have to prove I was in threat of my life to defend what my life created for me.
Perfectly said!
Great point and well said! But while you are 100% correct, and I wish things were like this, this is not the world we live in anymore. At one time your view was accepted by everyone (even criminals), when money and possessions were hard to come by for most, but these are the days of excess. Most people in this country have more than they need and are usually protected with insurance, so using deadly force to protect a TV is skewed in most cases. Being caught on property/in home while committing a crime, an assailant should justifiably fear for their life, but outside your home, unless you are being mortally threatened, deadly force just won't be justified anymore. It used to be the death penalty for a horse-thief bc you may not survive without your horse. Things have changed though ..unfortunately. In the past, penalties were harsh, and protecting property was justified to make one think twice before committing a crime. Now criminals have rights. Some evolved society, huh? As you said, it just creates more problems, the way we have to live now; within such a liberal society. But the reality is that we're not going to go back to the way it was, we're headed in a very left-wardly direction... : (
Well said.
What if you walk out and all you see is someone pointing a shot gun at someone .. would you just start shooting at the guy with the shotgun?
At that point it would look like someone trying to murder someone else.
We need more of this in our country.
In my part of Washington state, Seattle Tacoma area, the burglar would've been released from custody by claiming he's an oppressed class and the homeowner charged for hate crimes as the oppressor.
Hyperbolic cry baby. Why is everyone so damn sensitive these days......
Wrong.
Sounds like Canada
So true. I used to live in WA and i was a gun owner - so i made myself familiar with the laws, and i stay somewhat familiar with them as they change. When i received an out of state job offer, i jumped at the opportunity to get out of that state, because it was clearly only going to get worse in my estimation (which it obviously did).
@@WhyPhi Ooh so cute how you can use big words.
This guy was most likely working for the Best Buy Geek Squad and merely taking the TV to check why channels 400-975 came in fuzzy. He gave up really easy and most likely his first time having the muzzle of a firearm shoved in his face. Stand up against these vermin! Props to the homeowner
In California or New York, the home owner would have been charged with assault using a deadly weapon just because they took care of business outside of the home on the front lawn...
It's really shameful.
Love the points you made here, truly great information on the proper use of force
True, Californians and New Yorkers could never be Americans! That's why they move to TX and OK 😂
@@jayrome144 ok jay
@@jayrome144 sure..
@@jayrome144 right. Must suck that they can’t do shit. Just have to watch and let it happen.
@@jayrome144 I'm from California bro what are you talking about standing around? 🤣 we have a stand your ground law look it up.
what are you gonna do run away with a 60” tv?😂
The fact that videos like this exist in trying to educate people on the complexities of firearm use is proof that the “law” has castrated good people from using firearms effectively at all.
It's been a war on the peole for decades now.
What would your law/policy on when you are legally allowed to use deadly force?
@@joshdavis3743 In defense of life, liberty and the pursuit of legal* happiness.
Yes. Let's see, the guy is robbing me so I should hesitate and wait for the police! Ah No!F that!
@kevinpantera4429
Deadly force is not legal if the thief is outside of your house and leaving with a TV.
Lethal force is only legal if your life is being threatened.
Personally, I deeply disagree with the condemnation of the use of deadly force to defend property. I invested my life into obtaining that which is mine, and thus my property is an extension of it.
That aside, the legal commentary is extremely valuable and appreciated!
Yea the use of deadly force is great deterrent in general for people
@@geobloxmodels1186 Absolutely, and the fact that same POS then goes on to arrest us if we try to stop him from stealing our stuff - and therefore our lives (both what we invested and what we will need to expend to recoup for the stolen capital) - just adds salt to the wound!
@@ZanderSabbag If we can be punished for defending ourselves, we have no rights.
No one cares how deeply you disagree, it's the law. You don't want to learn how little opinion ends up mattering in court, even if 90% of sensible people would agree with you. Trust me on that one...
1/3 people are thieves. Justifying deadly force to protect property means that over 100 million Americans would be dead right now during minor theft incidents.
We should be able to defend our property the same way in this country let the criminal worry about if it is worth it or not and not the owner of said property.
“This shotgun is fairly persuasive” my favorite part
Definitely a great neighbor to have! Kudos to this guy for doing what was right!👍🏼🤩
Man, to have the feeling he got back after being victimized himself has to make him feel a lot more secure.
America is such a sad and twisted country, u can shoot a man dead for a $400 TV set lol
@@UnrealSickness I'm all for cutting off their hand, but I don't make the rules.
@@UnrealSickness Your brain doesn't work. You believe that the honest person has to accept criminals with no punishment at all. You see that the robber has two hands, two legs, his eyes are working, he has the will to violate private property and carry a TV, so he could be using his body to perform some tasks in exchange for money AKA job. Why people always find excuses not to work but get themselfs in situations that are far more dangerous and complex? And why people like you are always defending the criminal and not the honest person? Do you understand that what you call "poor" in america is a joke compared with real poverty in other countrys? Do you understand that to take the money or any property against the owner's will is a violation of ethics and should be punished with death if necessary? Do you know that humans are moved by incentives and if you don't punish you will teach people that is ok to rob? There's no excuse to this kind of behaviour and because of people defending criminals your contry is falling to pieces, don't fall for that "progessive" agenda man, in 10 to 20 years you're going to regret, your kids gonna suffer by living in a lawless country, maybe one day they will be the ones getting robbed or even killed because of that ideology. Let's not close our eyes to bad people doing bad things. If criminals don't want to get shot, just don't commit the crime or fu k around and find out.
@@UnrealSickness When someone burglarizes "just a $400 TV set lol" they're not just stealing your money, they are molesting you of your peace of mind. Imagine how frightening it would be to walk out of your room at 2:00 AM to take a piss & you are face to face with the shadowy silhouette of an uninvited stranger in your home, you would probably freak shit and lose sleep over it for months. You don't know what they have, you don't know what their intentions are, there is no respawn button, if they get you, you're gone. People get mental health disorders from burglaries.
@@UnrealSickness no if the robber ran and he shot him he would be in jail
There was one like this in Baltimore County, Maryland and the dude was breaking into the mans truck in his driveway and in Maryland it's legal to carry on your property and you can also use force if your life is directly threatened but until then you must attempt to retreat to your house. This homeowner told the dude to fuck off and instead of doing so the man decided to attempt to stab a man holding a rifle with a screwdriver and the homeowner being confronted with a deadly threat was able to stand his ground on his property and shoot him. This suspect had believed like an idiot that since it's Maryland and gun laws there suck balls that the homeowner was in the wrong and he would go to jail for shooting him but the exact opposite happened, thief went to the hospital then to jail and homeowner was released from custody that morning and the state declined to press charges on him.
I live in Baltimore Maryland and our laws here suck ass. Every shot in your gun is a felony if its loaded.
Marylands headline should be “at least we have castle doctrine”.
I like how you still had to go on a tangent to explain how the guy was in the right under Maryland’s pathetic gun and self defense laws, complete joke of a state
That's a happy ending.
@@ReckerFidelWOLF that's crazy
If you don't stand together, you fall separately. Good neighbor.
In my personal opinion if someone values your stuff more than their own life then you have the right to make a point and end their life 🤷♂️
Totally agree
I disagree. I'm not killing someone because they're stealing a tv, but I'm absolutely ok with covering them with a weapon and letting them make the decision.
I still believe in the right to bear arms to protect person and or property especially if you work a job that comes with daily health/personal injury and death risks to feed your family and purchase your property.
Yes, some people work real hard for the few things they have.
It’s crazy how much stuff a moral sober carrier has to remember in order to stay in compliance with the law with someone who’s intentions are bad. The laws are really in place for criminals these days, this isn’t about this particular video but just in general.
Yep, felons with stolen handguns= a slap on the wrist from Soros backed DA’s
Responsible citizens defending their life, liberty, and property= unhinged threat to society
I think we can all agree that killing a man because he's stealing a TV is objectively wrong and that's what these laws are there to stop. Yes, it does place a high burden on law abiding citizens, but that's the price we pay for being sane, sober, moral people. And heck, no one says you must exercise your rights - if responsible gun ownership is too much work, you could surrender your weapons.
@@chrisbruford Well said.
@@wlonsdale1 it means to be concerned with the principles of right and wrong behaviour.
@@chrisbruford if your not prepared to use force to defend your valuables send me your address so people can come rob u, I need a new Mercedes anyway 😂
"Get a good description and get the police over there" LOL That ain't going to work!
They'll take their time to get there. Unless you, umm, "took care of" the perp 💀. If you did this, 💀, then they'll be there within five minutes, and you'll be in custody promptly.
Very satisfying to watch this.
Criminals need to think that a life of crime can be a short one.
It is beyond my comprehension why this isn't legal behavior everywhere. I applaud this home owner 100x. He should get a cash bounty for this in my opinion. I understand the defender didn't follow the actual law.
You know what really like that this channel is advocating open, honest, and respectable conversation about guns. We've been too conditioned to attack each other for disagreeing when everyone is just expressing their beliefs. Lets listen to each other guys
I'm going to state the facts and if those facts happen to conflict with your opinion, then I'm not going to listen to someone's opinion.
I totally agree! Communication in today's world, quite often, SUCKS!
@@46miles .. like talking to strangers on the internet and stuff....trust no one.....
I like that he didn't have his finger on the trigger when exiting the door or at least it didn't look like it to me.
John, this is probably my favorite in, at least, the last year.
It's something that I've seen and what most of those who have subscribed could reasonably expect to see.
Perfect articulation that the tool was to protect persons, not property but it is reasonable to expect that a thief might present a deadly threat when challenged during effection of his larceny.
Appropriate critique at the pointing and presenting, instead of a ready position.
Also a reminder to know the laws in your state. I reside in a state with very clear statues codifying that "any person may arrest a felon or thief..." Sometimes you've gotta use the natural authority protected by code (because you just don't mess with my neighbors) but I'd still prefer to outsource my violence wherever possible.
I think that guy deserves a good old pat-on-the-back and a quick AAR to cover the "direction of LEAST consequence."
Also as a victim of a serious theft years ago (all my power tools & hand tools & work laptop stolen from a locked job box inside a locked sea can) I can attest to the fact that sometimes stealing someone’s livelihood equates to a threat against their lives. Luckily I replaced my tools but it was at great expense, stress & consternation. At the end of the day John is right you should never use deadly force against a property theft but man it hurts when you do everything right & get your legs chopped off
Lawn care contractors at my condo damaged 5 cars from the mowers not having guards and fleeing pebbles at the tenants cars. Lawyers wanted 3k up front (why should we have to pay when we did nothing but receive damage), association and insurance companies claim it's "squirrel damage"...I lived here for years without any damage. Perfect circle shaped hole through my fog light cover is done by a squirrel eh? Body shop mechanic that quoted me, stated he's been doing body work for over 20 years and never seen a squirrel do this type of damage (scratches, consistent patterned chips in plastic bumpers, rock shaped holes, etc.) I feel your pain - were peasants and no one cares....Whelp the association isn't getting 4 months of dues since its squirrel damage. I don't care anymore hurt my credit whatever. None of that will matter very soon...Thanks for making a comment to let me vent!
Question is: How reasonable is it to assume that some thieves will kill to get away with thier crime?
I think you are absolutely wrong. The burglar made up his or her mind. Burglars should be shot dead on site with no legal repercussions. Don’t go where you don’t belong and don’t take peoples propert and you will be fine.
If the legal system worked how I commented, I think people would think twice before burglarizing people
You missed the point bud there is no repeat offender the offender would be dead. Only good thief is a dead one. Shoot these burglars too kill. No jail time no burden on tax payers, hell it’ll even relieve the cops. Just send a wagon for the corpse
Pointing the weapon at the burglar sent a clear msg of intimidation that worked. When the robber runs into your house or makes a play at pulling you out of your car, he or she is not at Hi ready or low ready!!!! This was a win... Home owner didn’t shoot cause he didn’t have to and that’s good enough. Results couldn’t of been better
Only thing I'd be pointing at him is my hands in the surrender position.
1:25 "This shotgun is fairly persuasive."
I nominate this as "Funniest Sentence August, 2022."
I'm just glad he didn't shoot the TV. Was real worried for a minute.
Great analysis, John! Everything you said about deadly force to stop a robbery at night time in Texas was spot-on in-line with our LTC class from several months ago! Thanks!
You need a refund.
Agreed, but a shotgun pointed at you has WAY more influence than a lowered shotgun.
5:20 Wait a sec, what? NOT a home invasion? Where do you think he got that TV from? He was just inside someone's house!
In Australia we're allowed to use our words to ask the burglar to kindly stop doing that. If that fails we can go inside, lock the doors and call the police, who may arrive a couple of days later to take a statement.
Sorry mate.
John, you bring calm and sense to difficult situations. Many thanks.
I think it's absolutely reasonable to assume the robber has a concealed weapon, given his hand are full of stolen goods... So brandishing the long gun was acceptable.
True, but brandishing a gun was acceptable regardless. It's just a legal issue.
"Moral" is subjective. Plain and simple, if someone wants to harm you, and your property (ON YOUR PROPERTY), they are risking their lives.
The thief knew the routine and that he’d be back on the street in a few days.
Great lesson! Thanks for educating gun owners on property rights and the do's and dont's when using a firearm in these situations.
i wish you could just shoot robbers without fear that you could get charged with murder. this country is still pretty backwards and will side with criminals very often
BANG ! "Stop or I shoot" always best to issue a warning but not neccessarily first.
As property is mostly gained by working and investing time/life, if someone is stealing your property they are stealing a part of your life. That being said I believe it is morally justifiable to shoot someone if you confront them and they refuse to stop the act of stealing your property. And the idea of not being able to physically stop them based on moral grounds is just another tool for criminals to exploit. "You cant shoot me for stealing form you, its against the law!".
Well go ahead and try me. You might get a surprise.
Yea you can't shoot someone stealing your TV and if you do you probably are going to get 20 years to life. Even if you win a jury trial then you will get sued and the legal fees will bury all but the richest of men. Now think about that and think "Is that TV really worth all that?"
@Jason762 in the first place this guy wasn't stealing from the homeowner with the gun. He was stealing from a _neighbor_. But WHAT IF the neighbor was *selling* his TV, listed it on Craigslist and the man in question just bought it and was taking it to his car? Everyone on this thread who is so quick to say "I'd shoot somebody who was stealing stuff" risks making a *dreadful* mistake in a scenario like this where they might not have all the facts.
A couple hours of work is not equal to someone's entire life. Your money can be recovered, a life cannot.
We don't live in some frontier where someone stealing from you is likely to cause you existential danger, or even significantly impact your life.
@@milesmccall2301 "You cant shoot me for stealing form you, its against the law!" click click boom!
That was extremely considerate of him to let that guy live. Not a very common courtesy these days.
Thieves, cold blooded murderers, and sex offenders that are dead don't reoffend.
@@Elite02k what about scam artists?
Good job on the home owner’s part in using necessary common sense on this situation and the thief didn’t bring any of his friends to the party so this was good job on handling it 👍🏼
America is such a sad and twisted country, u can shoot a man dead for a $400 TV set lol
@@UnrealSickness Why u commenting this under every comment lol
@@UnrealSickness how it should be, maby don't break into other ppl's houses and take their stuff
Nice to see things turning out smoothly for a change.
Very good critique and excellent advice. Those "missteps" by a defender can land you in hot water with the tables turned in many states. Thanks for the guidance.