Norseman Take off on floats
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- Опубликовано: 20 авг 2011
- Norseman take off. Weather conditions: hot, humid, no wind and glassy water. The Norseman was loaded to the max, but not over loaded, with cement. The weight is distributed perfectly.
There is an old saying with the old timer Bush pilots that says “‘no one has ever seen a Norseman take off because it takes the curvature of the earth to get off the water”. That should put this video and the long takeoff run into perspective.
The P&WC 1340 had a 5 min time limit at max power.
Flaps are set for take off...its hard to see in video. We used a certain flap setting to get onto step and then adjusted for take off.
There might be many guys who have float experience watching this but there are not many pilots who have flown the Norseman so keep the comments professional and positive.
If you think this is a long take off you are correct...could it have been done better? Of course. This was my first solo flight loaded to the max in this aircraft. People who are saying there is something wrong just have no experience in the Norseman.
I have to say I am honored to have flown this machine. The last time I heard there were only 19 of these still flying in the world. I had the privilege to fly 3 of the 19.
The very first time I took a fly-in fishing trip was in 1966. I was 10 years old and flew in with my father, his brother and my father's business associate. We flew in a Norseman from Nakina ON to Ogoki Lake ON with a freighter canoe tied down to the struts of the wing. The weather was hot and sunny all week and the walleye and northern pike fishing was just incredible.
Beautiful scene and plane! Glassy water take off takes time,
wow that a overloaded plane !
No sir just a Norseman on a hot humid day with no wind and loaded to the max.
thats the longest water take off ive ever seen
Justin Allen me too
@@CarlosRodriguez-hw3nt Beaver is off in 5 seconds...Norseman in 50 minutes...
i think it has something to do with him not putting flaps down.
@@TrustJesus100 ...Bullshit, this was a very fast take off...usually, it will take it very far, very long take off usually!
Me too!
The best Norseman video on RUclips bar none.
We've had a Piper PA 22 on floats with a Lycoming pumping out 180 hp and loaded with a moose and the pilot. He pushed the Piper on the lake from the hunting cabin in Québec, Canada and we swear to this day he got airborne somewhere near the European east coast. It was cloudy (±1,200 ft ceiling, cool and no wind) and we never saw him get off the lake, we lost sight but we could hear the engine sound getting farther and farther away. He called us on the radio saying he'd be back the next day to pick us up, so we knew he made it. ... The lake was only one mile long.
And ... a Norseman is something else ! It's the true father of the bush plane. My father was in the RCAF and flew with a Norseman on floats in the early fifties. The Norseman he worked with is has been on display at the Canada Aviation and Space Museum in the Ottawa. Norseman no. 787.
Great video !
Holy hell! I've had shorter takeoffs in a heavy Boeing! That was great. With a runway that long, you can get away with damn near anything. I like how just before he lifted free he banked ever so slightly to port to lift his starboard float free to reduce drag and get the whole mess airborne. At least, that's how it appeared to me. ?? And yes, I do NOT have a FP rating. Cool vid. Love the plane. Loved the flying.
Well Thanks Steve...and you are correct, near the flying airspeed you do not rotate the aircraft as in a conventional aircraft or else you induce drag on the floats and slow down. You first lift off one float out of the water and gain a few more knots of airspeed and then lift the other one out with the ailerons. There is an old saying when taking off in a Norseman and that was "no one has ever seen a Norseman take off because it takes the curvature of the earth to get off". We did have 9 miles of rock free lake to take off but never used any where near. The Norseman was a challenge to fly but I am proud to say I have flown them. From what I am aware there are less than 19 still flying in the world.
Wow, that's exactly what I thought! Never really seemed to get up on step, just kept the nose high attitude which likely extend getting off the water. I'm wondering if the landing looks like the space shuttle approach. ;^)
He needed to make some waves to break that suction. I thought he'd run outta lake before he got air.
Same here.. that's some sticky water. Needs some chop to get off. That was such a long run I'm guessing they were loaded down with gear.
Beautiful scenery and beautiful plane............thanks for sharing.
LOVE that prop sound!
Superb shot in the beginning, what a plane!!!!!!
Almost the perfect storm: Glassy water (no wind), heavy. One bright spot, lotsa take off room.
Yes we had 9 miles of rock free take off room.
Looks like you used 8.5 of it lol
@@hkoethler : and you almost used them all up. The worst and longest take off I have ever seen. Never heard of breaking up the "glassy water" by circling before take off ? That technique is a hundred years old !
@@stranraerwal If that's the worst take off you have ever seen then you have no appreciation for float planes and their history. This is a very normal take off for a Norseman, of which there are only about 19 still flying in the world. Glassy water technique works for your little cub but not for a heavy beast like the Norseman. You my friend have seem to have no real work commercial experience so I hope this helps.
I love Thunderchickens, but I wasn’t sure if that one was going to get in the air or not!
Oh my beating heart that is a beautiful bird! You are one lucky man!
Terrific speed boat with wings and lotsa noise!
just watched it in HD and it was beautiful
Great Norseman Video ! - If it floats it will fly, This is how they loaded them in the good old days! Please post more Videos of it, THANKS !
yah until density altitude causes you to hit the tree line lol
Beautiful everything on this video
Love the touch of down elevator to get her on the step!
This looks like a beautiful place to fish! And to fly!
Lol Little more forward stick after his speed was up
What a scenery!
very good video quality
Awesome video
Awesome amazing excellent holy crap this video is great!
Nice! keepem coming!
The wheels to float conversion was so easy on the Norseman.
Glassy smooth lake...
awesome video and plane
wicked video!
And the longest takeoff 'roll' goes to...
Nice video, nice Norseman. Looks like you came to the right p;lace for "expert" opinions on takeoff technique. :-)
Lol. I haven’t been on here in quite a while. I do find it humorous to read some of the comments.
Nice one float takeoff
Was this plane the inspiration for the DHC-2??
For the first 10 seconds or so I was thinking "good GOD what is it, anchored?"
I thought the floats maybe had taken on water lol
Un très, très long décollage du Norseman! Pourtant c' est un hydravion qui décolle rapidement?! Merci pour ce partage...
Such a cool video. I've a question about the elevator - why full up for so long? Once spray into the prop not an issue anymore, neutralizing the elevator would've allowed better acceleration?
In my wee 100hp puddlejumper full back stick after initial rise just drags the heels and it won't accelerate. A far cry from a loaded thunderchicken on a hot day with glassy water, but wouldn't the fundamentals be the same?
Coulda done it for the video.. or to make ripples for landing/another plane🤷🏻♂️
Super Video,schade das das Motorboot so lahm ist.
Gut sieht man die Heckwelle,die durch den Propellerwind erzeugt wird und in der Entfernung plötzlich (1:30) verschwindet.Daran erkennt man sehr gut,das das Flugzeug nun "auf Stufe" ist.Klasse Video! Gratulation
Good thing he had a 14,000 foot runway!!
Perfect day for people but 95 second take offs are not so good for engines. Great video, lovely looking airplane doing the difficult, but not impossible.
the P&W actually had a 5 min max power rating. So this is nothing for the engine. Very normal Take off for a Norseman loaded to the max and Hot and humid day with no wind and glassy water.
I used to jump out of Norsemans at Orange airport in the late 70's
beatiful plane, beautiful setting, shame it takes 3 miles to put some daylight betw. the water and the floats.:)
The plane might of been loaded heavy, but the no-wind and probably hot temperature conditions also contributed to the long take off run. My 'Flying with Rick' video shows a take off run in a Cessna 180 float plane, but it didn't take as long.
Cessna 180 definitely doesn't come close to the Norseman but both are fun to fly.
It is obvious why the Beaver won the competition with the U.S. air force.
Underpowered or overloaded? Took awhile to break the surface tension, eh?
Relax the back pressure and get up on the step,get the rear end of the floats off the water. And take off a lot quicker.
Beautiful ....long legged eh?
Not too bad...normal for a Norseman...however most recent restorations take forever for take off..often near three miles...tho they cruise far faster than the old ones...must be the floats' rigging. Is that at Flim-Flam?
How much beer did he load eh?
Heavy
Those are some toasty cylinder heads
Beaver vs Norseman....nuff said. They are priced appropriately in the used market.
Lake is too smooth. Need a couple of boats to make some small waves
She sure likes the water that’s a long take off run
over load?
O norsman ...Dis plane .is...ma love .....
Wow...I didn't think he was ever going to lift off....
Thought this was typical for a Norseman. I've seen as many NOT able to take off, as those that were. Mind you, we're not talking of a lot of Norseman I've seen.
One week later........yep, still going!
Foi a decolagem mais longa que já assisti...
It took a while to just get up on the step!
cesna172landomg la
The old Noorduyn loves the water, image cylinder head temp.
Really nice video/recording of it /quality!! The Otter... damn fat, need diet xD
Taking off, stuffed with a load of forklift batteries
That would certainly explain it.
Hay hace falta una cosa para que el motor no sufra poner otra helice debajo del agua para que no hague mucho esfuerzo el motor
It must have had a heavy cargo to take so much lake space to lift...
didn't realize the camera boat started moving and was wondering why the plane was going so slow lol
I think he could have gotten it on the step sooner than that....took him forever....🤣🤣🤣
Yeah I would like to see how that plane was loaded, he couldn’t get up on step. I thought he was going to wear out the water.
i wonder if he could have taken a bit longer to get it on the step........ pretty though
Did the plane take off? That plane must be overload.
Plane did take off...That plane was not overloaded. 1930's technology and airfoil were not the most efficient. Also hot humid day with glassy water and no wind makes for a beautiful video and not so much a takeoff ;)
Now everyone knows where it got its nick name "Thunder Chicken"
Danggg mug took a couple miles lol
I don’t see the flaps extended
Perhaps a little overloaded? Too much load in rear?
took you a while? wow, I'd be sweatin bullets...put a R2800 in it
O bichinho quase não subia
I hope it doesn't take up that much space to land
Norseman......AKA "Thunder Chicken"..
That poor dog....he ran behind his master as far as he could, but you can see just before the aircraft gets almost too small to see the wake behind stops suddenly as he runs out of breath and drowns, sinking without trace. PLEASE, next time, UNTIE your dog before leaving the dock...
heeee no really not
I wonder does he need some instruction on how too fly
Needs a turboprop engine.
Boat VS Floatplane
Needs a faster boat!
These planes seem to be under powered...
That airplane is a dog. Never in my life seen a seaplane take that long trying to get off the water.
the yoke too far back also for water lift-off
I could have delivered it faster by truck.
That looks like a poor takeoff. In real float aircraft it should get up on the "step" like a power boat does. You lower the nose and build up speed before raising the nose and taking off.
Seems like needs some float training … push the nose down once you are on step ???
...except he hadn't yet gotten on the step. The water was too glassy.
@@rnreajr9184 Yeah right ... you like blind?
Looks to me like the float spray is behind the forward float secure point … some nose down trim to increase acceleration to get to take off speed … and by the way … the glassy water is a factor only at lift off to break the suction nothing to do with getting on step.
That pilot knows what he’s doing, that’s how the Norseman works on glassy water and hot days.
He never let the floats get up on the step...no wonder it took so long to get off the water.
Pumping the elevator can help get on step faster.
If it takes that long to take off under those conditions, then it's "overloaded"!
That looked terrible
something wrong there
Definitely not. Pretty normal for the Norseman. Hot, humid, glassy water with no wind and loaded to max with cement.
@@hkoethler You would know mate ... but lovely footage and love the plane !
Next time pump out your floats first. Way to much takeoff run.