Thank you. Finally someone has made a detailed review on this issue. I get that the comparison charts and fancy graphs make more sense for a lot of people, but all I wanted to hear was a personal insight on the eye strain and fringing issue. I think you deserve a lot more views, especially for this video because it's a very debated topic. I immediately clicked on the subscribe button when you started talking about the text color fringing at desktop distance around 3:50
Hey great test! I always found picture in LG panels more pleasant to the eyes. Maybe glossy woled settles the debate and brings peace to the world, but this one is top tier for me
Thank you so much for this video! I originally bought the MSI 321 MPG UPX (QD-OLED, 4K, 240HZ) because I wanted a glossy screen and heard the colors were better. The day I started using it I was getting really bothered by the text fringing, it made text look...acidic? Despite it being a 4K screen and everyone saying that fringing wasn't an issue at that resolution if you weren't a "pixel peeper". I took a chance and tried ordering a W-OLED hoping that the text would look better and it honestly looks perfect. The colors also can pop just as hard once it's calibrated (to get that QD vibrancy, upping the saturation a tad works quite well) My only gripe is the matte coating gives a "covered in oil" grainy effect to some colors (especially white webpages), but I'd rather have that be the compromise over the fringing and flashy text.
I was on the fence about QD vs W for the same reasons, leaning towards QD, but the fringing had me hesitating. I think your comment might have just made the decision for me. If only there was a glossy 32" 4k W-OLED...
Thank you so much for helping me decide. After going to the computer store to see QD and WOLED side by side, I really could tell that the WOLED was much easier on the eyes especially in a bright room. I wanted to like the glossy QD since I also don't like matte screens, but your video made me feel confident in my choice to go WOLED with the LG.
@RiceCubeTech Since my PC room is also my home office, I have blinds to block the direct sun but not blackout curtains because it would be strange when I have clients over. Also I have a really long bay window with books and things on the shelf. But on second thought I bet the QDOLED would be just fine in my office compared to the bright computer store. I did notice the purplish-gray tint in the store compared to deeper blacks on the WOLED, but that didn't bother me as much as the reflections. It was hard for my eyes to focus.
@@IcarusMK22 for my black out curtains I literally just have a pinup that can be removed when I just want my normal blinds. They just cover the existing blinds when I need complete darkness. Pretty easy to set up.
@@IcarusMK22 as long as it’s not direct light shining on the display they’re not too bad. If there’s a lot of ambient light you’ll notice but black out curtains or just making sure the ambient light is not shining on the display itself should fix it. Then you can enjoy the superior color on QD OLED. But you’ll still have to worry about the eh pixel layout. If your eyes aren’t too sensitive to that it shouldn’t be a big deal
I have qd-oled s90d and connected to PC. I getting blinded after couple hours of usage .Its really hard on eyes and it set at default colour setting. Lg woled panels way better for your eyes and no strain for hours of playing.
I mean, hard to compare but in most scenes the WOLED seems to either be better tuned or have the better picture. PS: In general, the content on the WOLED looks sharper (less blurry), and more details are visible, but that might be related to how they get shipped and their default settings? I find this very noticeable in the scenes of 7:31+. Specially in the stills, when video is paused. At ~7:41 the water and waterfall, and distant rocks, or vegitation all look really bad on the QD.
I like the woled just bc I’m super sensitive to those purple hues/tints in colors you get on qd-oleds I can spot them out instantly so for me glossy woled is the icing on the cake
I've had both panel types and prefer WOLED, especially a glossy WOLED like the LG C series. QD-OLED's more pronounced fringing issues and lack of a polarizer causing blacks to look gray in ambient light isn't for me.
@ so much better with the LG WOLED I can’t go back to qd oled. The text is amazing in oled not text fringing still disappointed compared to a normal oled tv but so much better than QD OLed
exactly what you said Sean, I also noticed same eye issues on my QD-Oled monitor shortly after coming from an asus ips monitor, I've never used optical glasses in my life and my eye sight is still pretty sharp at age 40. and it seems to me the more I use the qd-monitor, my eyes are getting worse I can feel it. It came to a point I thought something was wrong with my health, sour eyes could mean you are getting optical or diabeties and what not. I am seriously considering going back to a good ips panel again
I also have a headache thinking about the above two models. Considering 50% of games and 50% of design work (Figma), which product do you recommend more? In my country, the prices of both products are the same. I feel fringing on the close-up screen at 3:45, 3:46 in the video, but I didn't feel any fringing in the 8K letters at 3:52
Thank you for this, just returned my MSI QD-OLED. Loved the picture quality but i got a severe headache and eye fatigue after just 30 min, tried changing brightness, contrast etc. and nothing worked. Seems i will give WOLED a chance even though it got a matte display and is more expensive..
Sold my PG27AQN 360 hz IPS and got the AW2725DF 360 QD-OLED and my eyes were hurting so much looking at this screen i returned it after a week of using it and got the XG27AQDMG 240 hz. Got a good black friday deal for 500 dollars and for now i like it.
I had the AW3423DWF for a while and the fringing never bothered me visually. I thought it looked fine. But about once a week I would end a workday with a massive migraine and dry eyes (I never struggled with either before then). I did research and thought it was OLED flicker that caused it, but I think it's actually the purple QD hue and the fringing that caused me a lot of issues.
Awesome comparison! Thanks as you just saved me a ton of time and headache as I was looking at getting the HP. I'm defiantly sensitive to text fringing, especially colored fringing. The hunt continues as I look for a 4k 27-32" monitor with KVM and PD of around 90W.
Im having this occur on a new LG C4 and C3, but not the C2 or B2 I had before. The color vibration is a really good example of what the entire picture looks like and what I feel is causing eye strain. Is there a new picture processing causing this effect?
I have the alienware 32 4k and lg 32 4k next to each other right now, I really love the colors of the QD, and the WOLED looks very "dull" is the best way I can describe it. However it does seem like the WOLED is a little easier on my eyes
Great video! I will just have to go to a Best Buy or something and see for myself. Don't wanna mess with getting a panel I don't like and return it. Also there is a glossy WOLED monitor, but I forget which one
Love your videos! I recently picked up a Alienware AW3225QF. 32 inch qd-oled glossy with a slight curve. Haven't noticed any fringing and I'm going to do my best to not look for it now haha. The slight curve helps a surprising amount to reduce reflections and I like how it pulls the edges of the large 32 inches in just a bit. I do have a monitor light bar and that bleeds onto the top of the screen but it's easy enough to turn off if I want the best colors. My only real complaint is the horrible VRR flicker that is so common to OLED panels. I've been having to turn off G sync and set my refresh rate to 60hz to make silent hill 2 playable and not a flickering mess.
I bought the alienware 5 months ago… now my eyes are killing me after a few hours of gaming… yes, glossy it looks better.. but not worth it if you can’t watch it at all.. it is on sale now, getting a matte screen next
I'm not sure which would be the best option for games? LG 27GS95QE or ASUS XG27AQDMG or Samsung G60SD? and in your opinion in general, which one is better?
what's your thought on the new Samsung G80SD? It's a QD-OLED with anti-glare coating so I wonder if the text fringing still persists. I also wonder if the purple tint is still visible on it when in bright environment because I always sit in bright room, whether it's natural or downlights.
I just returned it. It doesn't really have the purple tint, but it looks dirty and hazy despite people saying the contrary about the coating. It's also not very bright for being a top tier monitor. I'm much happier with a 42" OLED tv as a monitor.
EXC review very honest. My next buy is LG again to substitution for my IPS BLACK ultrafine 32. I recommend buy a calibrite HDR colorimeter to use LG Calibration Studio to see the difference when you use this tool, for better color mode, use 3D LUT format, V4, precise mode, take time but is accurate and work perfect in my Ultrafine
Thank you for this video. I looked it up after I got an MSI qd oled and found the eye strain to be very disturbing. I saw the fringing but it didn’t bother me but i think it must have affected me anyway. Discomfort in my eye that I haven’t experienced before. Maybe not having so young eyes (they are 40 years after all) is a reason? Who knows. I got an asus strix woled instead and that monitor works just fine. But I must admit the color was noticeable better on the qr oled, but it doesn’t matter if you can’t look at it. :) Thanks!
I have myopia and astigmatism I am quite sensitive. I prefer matte screens even in a dark room. I appreciate my media better, it's more relaxing, I will soon take the Samsung Matte G80SD QD-OLED, it's a good compromise
@ I thinking about switching back to Matt because I have a glossy one, but my eyes recently started to hurt more but I don’t know is because I need new prescription
@@chai817 the glossy shines directly in the eyes while the matte gives more the appearance that it is printed on the surface of the screen which is more relaxing. And for the prescription it is ideally necessary to check every year
Hey Sean! I do notice my eyes get fatigued more for longer gaming sessions on my Alienware AW2725DF QD-OLED than any of my IPS or VA displays. I don't do any productivity work on my OLEDs due to fear of burn in, but haven't noticed extreme text fringing, even on my 1440p panel - I'd expect 4K to lessen some of that but apparently you can notice it there too. Do you think these OLED monitors get bright enough in SDR at ~250 nits? I don't like to use mine in brighter environments without HDR. Also, how is Auto HDR working for you on these for non-native HDR games? Are you using RTX HDR?
I think they’re totally useable in SDR unless you are in an unusually bright room. Auto HDR works good for me, don’t really mess with RTX HDR. It’s definitely more noticeable in some games, stuff like Dragon Quest XI, Rocket League and Fortnite that are super colorful have noticeably more pop to them, but in games with more subdued color palettes like Skyrim it isn’t as noticeable.
Thanks for bringing up the topic of colour fringing. Note, however, that a WOLED display is not ideal at all for text clarity due to the non-standard RGB & W subpixel layout. You'd be better off with a panel that uses RGB only in a standard layout (unlike QD OLED which uses a non-standard layout).
I can’t stand those unnatural, too vibrant colours of QD-OLED. Samsung loves too saturated stuff on their phones and on their panels and I can’t stand it. Swapped my 21:9 Philips Evnia for 32” 4K LG and I couldn’t be happier. Natural colours, great blacks and absolutely no issues with purple blacks during day, also can play in well lighted room, which is better for my eyes.
I don't know why you change the monitors almost every time you explain something. Once WOLED is on the right, then QD OLED is on the right and so on. Sorry mate, it's not a good visual comparison. As you can read, there are some previous comments that think WOLED is the glossy display. Painful :(
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Thank you. Finally someone has made a detailed review on this issue. I get that the comparison charts and fancy graphs make more sense for a lot of people, but all I wanted to hear was a personal insight on the eye strain and fringing issue. I think you deserve a lot more views, especially for this video because it's a very debated topic. I immediately clicked on the subscribe button when you started talking about the text color fringing at desktop distance around 3:50
Hey great test! I always found picture in LG panels more pleasant to the eyes. Maybe glossy woled settles the debate and brings peace to the world, but this one is top tier for me
Thank you so much for this video! I originally bought the MSI 321 MPG UPX (QD-OLED, 4K, 240HZ) because I wanted a glossy screen and heard the colors were better. The day I started using it I was getting really bothered by the text fringing, it made text look...acidic? Despite it being a 4K screen and everyone saying that fringing wasn't an issue at that resolution if you weren't a "pixel peeper". I took a chance and tried ordering a W-OLED hoping that the text would look better and it honestly looks perfect. The colors also can pop just as hard once it's calibrated (to get that QD vibrancy, upping the saturation a tad works quite well)
My only gripe is the matte coating gives a "covered in oil" grainy effect to some colors (especially white webpages), but I'd rather have that be the compromise over the fringing and flashy text.
I was on the fence about QD vs W for the same reasons, leaning towards QD, but the fringing had me hesitating. I think your comment might have just made the decision for me. If only there was a glossy 32" 4k W-OLED...
Thank you so much for helping me decide. After going to the computer store to see QD and WOLED side by side, I really could tell that the WOLED was much easier on the eyes especially in a bright room. I wanted to like the glossy QD since I also don't like matte screens, but your video made me feel confident in my choice to go WOLED with the LG.
Did you not think to just get blackout curtains for your PC room? And then you can turn off ambient lights…
@RiceCubeTech Since my PC room is also my home office, I have blinds to block the direct sun but not blackout curtains because it would be strange when I have clients over. Also I have a really long bay window with books and things on the shelf.
But on second thought I bet the QDOLED would be just fine in my office compared to the bright computer store. I did notice the purplish-gray tint in the store compared to deeper blacks on the WOLED, but that didn't bother me as much as the reflections. It was hard for my eyes to focus.
@@IcarusMK22 for my black out curtains I literally just have a pinup that can be removed when I just want my normal blinds. They just cover the existing blinds when I need complete darkness.
Pretty easy to set up.
@@IcarusMK22 as long as it’s not direct light shining on the display they’re not too bad. If there’s a lot of ambient light you’ll notice but black out curtains or just making sure the ambient light is not shining on the display itself should fix it.
Then you can enjoy the superior color on QD OLED. But you’ll still have to worry about the eh pixel layout. If your eyes aren’t too sensitive to that it shouldn’t be a big deal
I have qd-oled s90d and connected to PC.
I getting blinded after couple hours of usage .Its really hard on eyes and it set at default colour setting.
Lg woled panels way better for your eyes and no strain for hours of playing.
I mean, hard to compare but in most scenes the WOLED seems to either be better tuned or have the better picture. PS: In general, the content on the WOLED looks sharper (less blurry), and more details are visible, but that might be related to how they get shipped and their default settings? I find this very noticeable in the scenes of 7:31+. Specially in the stills, when video is paused. At ~7:41 the water and waterfall, and distant rocks, or vegitation all look really bad on the QD.
I like the woled just bc I’m super sensitive to those purple hues/tints in colors you get on qd-oleds I can spot them out instantly so for me glossy woled is the icing on the cake
Apart from TVs (LG ones that you can use as a monitor) I don’t think you have any alternative.
I've had both panel types and prefer WOLED, especially a glossy WOLED like the LG C series. QD-OLED's more pronounced fringing issues and lack of a polarizer causing blacks to look gray in ambient light isn't for me.
Had exactly the same issue, need to send back my QD OLED and buy WOLED to try
how are you doing with the WOLED?
@ so much better with the LG WOLED I can’t go back to qd oled. The text is amazing in oled not text fringing still disappointed compared to a normal oled tv but so much better than QD OLed
exactly what you said Sean, I also noticed same eye issues on my QD-Oled monitor shortly after coming from an asus ips monitor, I've never used optical glasses in my life and my eye sight is still pretty sharp at age 40. and it seems to me the more I use the qd-monitor, my eyes are getting worse I can feel it. It came to a point I thought something was wrong with my health, sour eyes could mean you are getting optical or diabeties and what not. I am seriously considering going back to a good ips panel again
I also have a headache thinking about the above two models. Considering 50% of games and 50% of design work (Figma), which product do you recommend more? In my country, the prices of both products are the same.
I feel fringing on the close-up screen at 3:45, 3:46 in the video, but I didn't feel any fringing in the 8K letters at 3:52
Thank you for this, just returned my MSI QD-OLED. Loved the picture quality but i got a severe headache and eye fatigue after just 30 min, tried changing brightness, contrast etc. and nothing worked. Seems i will give WOLED a chance even though it got a matte display and is more expensive..
Sold my PG27AQN 360 hz IPS and got the AW2725DF 360 QD-OLED and my eyes were hurting so much looking at this screen i returned it after a week of using it and got the XG27AQDMG 240 hz. Got a good black friday deal for 500 dollars and for now i like it.
Hey, im getting the XG27 aswell did you find it to be different from the qd-oled regarding image quality ? Im glad the WOLED is easier on your eyes.
@Isthathim not so much. Text quality is good and for gaming it is insane. I can recommend it to anyone.
@@ronald0122 Great, thank you 🙏
@@ronald0122 btw did you mean XG27AQDMG ? You mixed the Q for a C
@@Isthathim yeah aqdmg. Acdng is qd-oled.
I had the AW3423DWF for a while and the fringing never bothered me visually. I thought it looked fine. But about once a week I would end a workday with a massive migraine and dry eyes (I never struggled with either before then). I did research and thought it was OLED flicker that caused it, but I think it's actually the purple QD hue and the fringing that caused me a lot of issues.
Did you do the test with LG 32GS95UE or LG 32GS95UV? their coating is different other one is semi gloss for the UE and Anti Glare-Matte for the UV
Thanks for talking and explaining the eye strain on the QDOLED. im having the same issue and am going insane, lol. Thank you. Might try a WOLED
Awesome comparison! Thanks as you just saved me a ton of time and headache as I was looking at getting the HP. I'm defiantly sensitive to text fringing, especially colored fringing. The hunt continues as I look for a 4k 27-32" monitor with KVM and PD of around 90W.
Thanks, very helpful. I would buy the WoLED it looked better, crisp and deeper colours on your video.
Im having this occur on a new LG C4 and C3, but not the C2 or B2 I had before. The color vibration is a really good example of what the entire picture looks like and what I feel is causing eye strain. Is there a new picture processing causing this effect?
I have the alienware 32 4k and lg 32 4k next to each other right now, I really love the colors of the QD, and the WOLED looks very "dull" is the best way I can describe it. However it does seem like the WOLED is a little easier on my eyes
Which Gamer preset did you use for the LG W-OLED?
Very nice video, crystal clear explanation.
Great video! I will just have to go to a Best Buy or something and see for myself. Don't wanna mess with getting a panel I don't like and return it. Also there is a glossy WOLED monitor, but I forget which one
Love your videos! I recently picked up a Alienware AW3225QF. 32 inch qd-oled glossy with a slight curve. Haven't noticed any fringing and I'm going to do my best to not look for it now haha. The slight curve helps a surprising amount to reduce reflections and I like how it pulls the edges of the large 32 inches in just a bit. I do have a monitor light bar and that bleeds onto the top of the screen but it's easy enough to turn off if I want the best colors.
My only real complaint is the horrible VRR flicker that is so common to OLED panels. I've been having to turn off G sync and set my refresh rate to 60hz to make silent hill 2 playable and not a flickering mess.
I bought the alienware 5 months ago… now my eyes are killing me after a few hours of gaming… yes, glossy it looks better.. but not worth it if you can’t watch it at all.. it is on sale now, getting a matte screen next
I'm not sure which would be the best option for games? LG 27GS95QE or ASUS XG27AQDMG or Samsung G60SD? and in your opinion in general, which one is better?
what's your thought on the new Samsung G80SD? It's a QD-OLED with anti-glare coating so I wonder if the text fringing still persists. I also wonder if the purple tint is still visible on it when in bright environment because I always sit in bright room, whether it's natural or downlights.
I just returned it. It doesn't really have the purple tint, but it looks dirty and hazy despite people saying the contrary about the coating. It's also not very bright for being a top tier monitor. I'm much happier with a 42" OLED tv as a monitor.
EXC review very honest. My next buy is LG again to substitution for my IPS BLACK ultrafine 32. I recommend buy a calibrite HDR colorimeter to use LG Calibration Studio to see the difference when you use this tool, for better color mode, use 3D LUT format, V4, precise mode, take time but is accurate and work perfect in my Ultrafine
Thank you for this video. I looked it up after I got an MSI qd oled and found the eye strain to be very disturbing. I saw the fringing but it didn’t bother me but i think it must have affected me anyway. Discomfort in my eye that I haven’t experienced before. Maybe not having so young eyes (they are 40 years after all) is a reason? Who knows. I got an asus strix woled instead and that monitor works just fine. But I must admit the color was noticeable better on the qr oled, but it doesn’t matter if you can’t look at it. :) Thanks!
I have a Astigmatism which one will be best for my eyes🧐
I have myopia and astigmatism I am quite sensitive. I prefer matte screens even in a dark room. I appreciate my media better, it's more relaxing, I will soon take the Samsung Matte G80SD QD-OLED, it's a good compromise
@ I thinking about switching back to Matt because I have a glossy one, but my eyes recently started to hurt more but I don’t know is because I need new prescription
@@chai817 the glossy shines directly in the eyes while the matte gives more the appearance that it is printed on the surface of the screen which is more relaxing. And for the prescription it is ideally necessary to check every year
I think there’s an asus Woled that’s glossy or at least less matte than the others.
Do you think for text clarity 1440p is enough or do we need 4k?
4K helps but even then it’s still not as crisp as an IPS. If that is a big concern to you, I would skip the 1440p options
what generation is that qd oled?
THANKS earned a new sub
monitor name for the qd oled monitor???
HP Omen Transcend 32
Hey Sean! I do notice my eyes get fatigued more for longer gaming sessions on my Alienware AW2725DF QD-OLED than any of my IPS or VA displays. I don't do any productivity work on my OLEDs due to fear of burn in, but haven't noticed extreme text fringing, even on my 1440p panel - I'd expect 4K to lessen some of that but apparently you can notice it there too.
Do you think these OLED monitors get bright enough in SDR at ~250 nits? I don't like to use mine in brighter environments without HDR.
Also, how is Auto HDR working for you on these for non-native HDR games? Are you using RTX HDR?
I think they’re totally useable in SDR unless you are in an unusually bright room. Auto HDR works good for me, don’t really mess with RTX HDR. It’s definitely more noticeable in some games, stuff like Dragon Quest XI, Rocket League and Fortnite that are super colorful have noticeably more pop to them, but in games with more subdued color palettes like Skyrim it isn’t as noticeable.
Fringing around text looks like crt magenta-green misconvergance.
Im watching this on a i-pad qd oled looks so natural with better colors
Thanks for bringing up the topic of colour fringing. Note, however, that a WOLED display is not ideal at all for text clarity due to the non-standard RGB & W subpixel layout. You'd be better off with a panel that uses RGB only in a standard layout (unlike QD OLED which uses a non-standard layout).
I can’t stand those unnatural, too vibrant colours of QD-OLED. Samsung loves too saturated stuff on their phones and on their panels and I can’t stand it. Swapped my 21:9 Philips Evnia for 32” 4K LG and I couldn’t be happier. Natural colours, great blacks and absolutely no issues with purple blacks during day, also can play in well lighted room, which is better for my eyes.
You know you can change in the settings I got a tv qd oled from Samsung you need to turn them down that’s what I did
I don't know why you change the monitors almost every time you explain something. Once WOLED is on the right, then QD OLED is on the right and so on. Sorry mate, it's not a good visual comparison. As you can read, there are some previous comments that think WOLED is the glossy display. Painful :(
qd wins in anyway. WOLED WINS somewhere else.
Are we watching the same thing? Every time you said the QDOLED is more purple, the WOLED showed clearly more purple 😅
If you're talking about 1:20 then then QDOLED (on the right) is definitely more purple
Oled gives eye cancer, QD-Oled enhances eye sight. With other words, who cares, both is good
Woled is bluish in white, QdOled is better for white and colours