I can just imagine, visitors ask to use the bathroom, and then rotate out the toilet and do their bizness, while continuing to carry on a conversation. A great comedy routine, but one I get, as I had a converted stepvan in the '70s that had a PortaPottie (I never forgot that great product name) under one dinette seat. A bit awkward when other's are about, but by oneself, and it's raining outside, it got the job done just fine.
Nice video. Just checked the specs on the Ford F-150s and if you wanted to stay in the 1/2 ton area, would have to purchase one in the upper models, possible 4x4, and larger engine to have a safety margin to haul one of these. It was interesting to see two outside compartments that were not lockable. The propane storage area being one but this makes sense in case of an accident and the water access being the other one. I thought for sure they would do the same as they do on the 400 and have it where you can lock that cover. The layout was very nice and typical of nucamp well done. Nothing looks cheap. You said there is an option for a microwave and I'm going to assume that would take up one of the upper cabinet areas. Very impressed until it came to the toilet. My wife of 40-years looked at me and said NO WAY IN H#$$. Plus, it's right under the fridge and next to the food prep area. Understanding the design struggled with weight, perhaps focused on 1/2 trucks, and wanted as much as possible inside they did a great job. I know lots of comments there needs to be a wet bath but honestly, I don't see where you would put it and still have a rig that would fit a 6' bed.
I had an F150 in 1986 which had a payload package. It was rated to carry about 2,600# in the bed. Mine had a EFI 5.0 V8 and 3.55 rear end. Was a great set up for my 8' camper (1,300# dry wgt) which did not have a shower but had a porta potty. I swapped out the passenger rated tires for truck tires and added air shocks. Wet baths add a lot of weight; you probably would need to step up to a 3/4 ton truck for that.
@@TENNESSEETORNADO It's not for everyone, each person has a style that works best for them. But, some of the pros to a truck camper are that you get a camper without having to tow! It's very easy and convenient to get around - and allows you to get to some places that a normal tow behind would not go. They are still pretty quick to drop off the back of the truck, so you have a vehicle to drive around after you set up camp. The floor plans are open and roomy... but you do have to have a truck that can handle one.
The 2013 F150 I traded off for a 250 had a payload of 1700 lbs you would have to get the camper down to about 1000 lbs to leaver enough payload for the weight of the passengers and equipment. Such as a pop-up like a palamino. And no amount of extra springs and air bags is going to legally change your payload.
Yeah they conveniently leave out the little detail that you can only really haul it totally empty and with very few vehicles with specific options packages.
I had an 8' Six Pac back in the 80's that weighed 1200# dry. The F150 with payload package would carry up to 2500# in the bed so this was a good combination. The 5.0 liter V8 with automatic was a good setup with this camper. I did install overload springs, tranny cooler and replace the tires to LT tires.
I saw the previous view you had up for the prototype of the cirrus 670. I actually liked that setup. If these truck campers are 4 season campers, it would be nice to have a compact shower inside rather than having to go outside for a quick shower especially in colder temps. I like this one but would still like an indoor shower 😊
I was just thinking the same thing. The lack of indoor shower is a dealbreaker for me. In addition to temperature issues; the other is when being at a campground. Not too private.
@@diamondeye75 I agree. I like the cassette toilet, but I need a shower. You would be surprised to know how much of these campers are made of off the shelf parts. I think it wouldn[t be too hard to build one yourself if you don't mind taking on a project.
As a designer, I see this the good thinking behind this product. Great design first REMOVES elements that are not needed. Then you address the items generally not wanted. "Deconstructive" thinking brings the core elements of value. Yes, thank you, remove the television, AC unit and the awning. Well done, design team. Congrats.
Ever considered getting rid if the dinette to make a better shower; or removing one side seat of it to make more shower space? If you're worried about the black tank then a cassette toilet could fix the problem by raising it a bit. Even a compost toilet would fix it
The design of the 670 was far superior. The fact I can't get it, unfortunately might just have to take my business elsewhere. That concept was perfect and I was very giddy about it. Please look into bringing it back this year. We would much prefer that design, we will happily take on the added weight - Sincerely, all truck bed campers!
Great review! I know you made a disclaimer regarding the need to check payload capacity of respective half-ton truck, but in all honesty these things would probably have to be built out of balsa wood to be within usable payload capacities (i.e. with passengers, fuel, supplies, etc.) of most half-ton trucks (even with max payload option added). Having said that, I think this is a great camper for almost any 3/4 ton truck, and that's how camper manufacturers should be marketing them (imho). Thanks again for taking the time to review this new camper.
I agree. It’s too heavy for my 1/2 ton which is a 2014 Ford F-150 Supercrew Cab 6.5 ft bed. 3.5L 6cyl. Bummer. It’s nice! What half ton can handle this with reasonable belongings in it?
If $38,000 is correct for the price why would you not just buy a toy hauler and get way more room with all the options and then some I like the camper but 38000 seems way too much for what that is
Thank you for the nice review. Seems like it’s well-made and it’s light, but those prices are well out of my league. But there’s something for everyone
So this camper would have no problem fitting in a 6 foot bed Tacoma? Also it was interesting about the airplane sounds. Usually they take off and go away. It's like the pilot knew you were trying to make a video and decided to keep buzzing you.
I drive a Camry. My plan is to go choose the pickup camper I like, get a truck recommendation from the dealer, then go trade the Camry in for the recommended truck (new), then return that same day to put the camper on the truck. Opinions?...
I think that is a great idea. You definitely need a truck to handle whichever truck-camper you choose. Which truck will greatly depend on the camper you choose :)
Very cute and plenty for a single camper - but without a freezer, it would limit it for maybe only a weekend camper. Some single folks like this size for full-time rv-ing - there appears to be enough room to accommodate one in the fridge area - maybe it could be an option for those that like to take extended trips.
Can anyone comment why tischer in Europe is able to make a modsize slide in with a full wet bath that only weoghs 1300lbs and noone in the US is able to do this?
I like it. Indoor kamode, out door shower hook up, cabinet space for clothes, cabinet space for spices and food, t.v. hook up, two burner stove top, sink, Queen bed, A/C & heat option, 20 l.b.s. gas tank, big windows with screen & privacy shades, two seat kitchen seating, only one problem....I don't own my Toyota truck no more☹. Questions: Do you have radio & speakers in the truck camper? Do you have options of awnings like an unbrella fold out awning that raps around one side to the back of the truck camper? How much does the 620 cost?
Good presentation. Very informative. I'm a newbie still looking into this for retirement travel. Dumb question of the day. How do you access the ratchet binders after you've lowered the camper onto the truck to tighten them ? Thanks.
Think the 670 was a better design, I’m not a fan of pooping in my kitchen. I’m sure the added weight of it could have been handled with the addition of air bags or helper springs.
Love you mande Lea Love the cirrus However the 620 is only built for one person. There is no place to go to the bathroom. I am married for 36 years and I have to be honest I have never went to the in front of my husband. The 620 is not a good fit for that reason.
@@fayemarshall2254 works for you That’s good. In my 60 years I always used a closed room it’s a private time for some I am not an avid camper Just thinking about the right fit for retirement. We will need a bathroom even if it’s a wet bath. Though I do love the idea of a compost!!
I understand what you're saying... there are folks of all kinds with different preferences. There is no "perfect camper", just the "perfect camper for you"
After watching several videos of being stuck in a freak snow storm, and the power going out, MAYBE every camper or RV needs to add a portable small wood burning stove with a separate smoke stack next to the propane stove exhaust fan. JUST IN CASE OF POWER FAILURES!?!
I would like to see which 1/2T trucks this will safely be carrying this camper. I would say this can only be SAFELY carried by a regular cab (2 drs) standard equipped truck with no options.
This new model does not work for me. I loved your video on the 720 and it got my hopes very high until i found they dont make it. That bathroom/shower area was great.
Please, could you mention the price. Even if it’s rounded off. I hate an entire video on a camper, then NO mention of price. I have to go to the damn website to find the ballpark price. Thanks
Apologies. I try to mention price, but this particular video was of a prototype that did not even have a ballpark price at that time. The video is also 2 1/2 years old so it would not be accurate at this point anymore. The newest version of this camper is now called the Cirrus 620 if that helps.
Still too heavy and the tanks are too small. They could easily lighten this camper by choosing lighter materials for cabinets. A pop up camper is the way to go for half ton trucks. There are plenty of pop up campers available that weigh below 1200 pounds.
All those big round plastic caps they use to cover the fasteners in the cabinetry and wood trim make it look really cheap. I expect better from nuCamp. I thought they were trying to be a premium brand.
I can just imagine, visitors ask to use the bathroom, and then rotate out the toilet and do their bizness, while continuing to carry on a conversation. A great comedy routine, but one I get, as I had a converted stepvan in the '70s that had a PortaPottie (I never forgot that great product name) under one dinette seat. A bit awkward when other's are about, but by oneself, and it's raining outside, it got the job done just fine.
haha, that is a funny thought! I can only imagine it with the stooges...
The no wet bath with shower was a deal breaker for me
Nice video. Just checked the specs on the Ford F-150s and if you wanted to stay in the 1/2 ton area, would have to purchase one in the upper models, possible 4x4, and larger engine to have a safety margin to haul one of these. It was interesting to see two outside compartments that were not lockable. The propane storage area being one but this makes sense in case of an accident and the water access being the other one. I thought for sure they would do the same as they do on the 400 and have it where you can lock that cover. The layout was very nice and typical of nucamp well done. Nothing looks cheap. You said there is an option for a microwave and I'm going to assume that would take up one of the upper cabinet areas. Very impressed until it came to the toilet. My wife of 40-years looked at me and said NO WAY IN H#$$. Plus, it's right under the fridge and next to the food prep area. Understanding the design struggled with weight, perhaps focused on 1/2 trucks, and wanted as much as possible inside they did a great job. I know lots of comments there needs to be a wet bath but honestly, I don't see where you would put it and still have a rig that would fit a 6' bed.
I had an F150 in 1986 which had a payload package. It was rated to carry about 2,600# in the bed. Mine had a EFI 5.0 V8 and 3.55 rear end. Was a great set up for my 8' camper (1,300# dry wgt) which did not have a shower but had a porta potty.
I swapped out the passenger rated tires for truck tires and added air shocks.
Wet baths add a lot of weight; you probably would need to step up to a 3/4 ton truck for that.
No one beats nu camp when it comes to truck campers. I so miss my 920.
If we had the means, we'd probably switch to a truck camper!
We're glad you liked your Cirrus!
@@MandyLea I have a good question... Why would you want a truck camper? honest question
@@TENNESSEETORNADO It's not for everyone, each person has a style that works best for them. But, some of the pros to a truck camper are that you get a camper without having to tow! It's very easy and convenient to get around - and allows you to get to some places that a normal tow behind would not go. They are still pretty quick to drop off the back of the truck, so you have a vehicle to drive around after you set up camp. The floor plans are open and roomy... but you do have to have a truck that can handle one.
The 2013 F150 I traded off for a 250 had a payload of 1700 lbs you would have to get the camper down to about 1000 lbs to leaver enough payload for the weight of the passengers and equipment. Such as a pop-up like a palamino. And no amount of extra springs and air bags is going to legally change your payload.
Yeah they conveniently leave out the little detail that you can only really haul it totally empty and with very few vehicles with specific options packages.
I had an 8' Six Pac back in the 80's that weighed 1200# dry. The F150 with payload package would carry up to 2500# in the bed so this was a good combination. The 5.0 liter V8 with automatic was a good setup with this camper. I did install overload springs, tranny cooler and replace the tires to LT tires.
I saw the previous view you had up for the prototype of the cirrus 670. I actually liked that setup. If these truck campers are 4 season campers, it would be nice to have a compact shower inside rather than having to go outside for a quick shower especially in colder temps. I like this one but would still like an indoor shower 😊
I was just thinking the same thing. The lack of indoor shower is a dealbreaker for me. In addition to temperature issues; the other is when being at a campground. Not too private.
@@diamondeye75 I agree. I like the cassette toilet, but I need a shower. You would be surprised to know how much of these campers are made of off the shelf parts. I think it wouldn[t be too hard to build one yourself if you don't mind taking on a project.
As a designer, I see this the good thinking behind this product. Great design first REMOVES elements that are not needed. Then you address the items generally not wanted. "Deconstructive" thinking brings the core elements of value. Yes, thank you, remove the television, AC unit and the awning. Well done, design team. Congrats.
Great point!
We always love your videos, Mandy! Thanks for taking the time to explore the Cirrus 620!
Always happy to share!
I saw the palm tree in the background, so I know this was not filmed in NE Ohio.
I always enjoy Mandy Lea's NuCamp reviews.
Ever considered getting rid if the dinette to make a better shower; or removing one side seat of it to make more shower space? If you're worried about the black tank then a cassette toilet could fix the problem by raising it a bit. Even a compost toilet would fix it
@@GravityButterfly Thank you for your feedback!
The design of the 670 was far superior.
The fact I can't get it, unfortunately might just have to take my business elsewhere. That concept was perfect and I was very giddy about it.
Please look into bringing it back this year. We would much prefer that design, we will happily take on the added weight - Sincerely, all truck bed campers!
I loved the bathroom arrangement on the 720. That was ingenious and it is a shame they could not do it in this one.
I agree, it sure was cool.. Guess they couldn't afford the weight.
The bathroom on the previous model was a homerun. Very disappointing.
Taking away the separate bathroom of the 670, to replace it with a stinky toilet next to the cooking are is a huge step back.
@@nukezat if your cassette toilet stinks, then you're doing it wrong. I might rig up a curtain for some privacy. And hey, use the exhaust fan.
Nice camper! But strangely it's missing a jacuzzi and/or hot tub. But on the plus side it would be a great sauna without the AC during summer time!
LOL! Too funny.... I mean, you could always get creative...
Great review! I know you made a disclaimer regarding the need to check payload capacity of respective half-ton truck, but in all honesty these things would probably have to be built out of balsa wood to be within usable payload capacities (i.e. with passengers, fuel, supplies, etc.) of most half-ton trucks (even with max payload option added).
Having said that, I think this is a great camper for almost any 3/4 ton truck, and that's how camper manufacturers should be marketing them (imho).
Thanks again for taking the time to review this new camper.
I’ve personally been thru this camper and yes it weighed in at 1500, it’s the real deal
I agree. It’s too heavy for my 1/2 ton which is a 2014 Ford F-150 Supercrew Cab 6.5 ft bed. 3.5L 6cyl. Bummer. It’s nice! What half ton can handle this with reasonable belongings in it?
@@andreaharsellmusic it’s only 1490 lbs, what’s your payload sticker on your door say
@@Northwoodscamper45 1200.
@@andreaharsellmusic yes , a little under for what you need. If you move up in trucks it is one awesome camper...
Really nice presentation Ms. Mandy👌
Great job. Great content. No problems with the elements in the air.
Thank you & GOD bless
Thank you so much Lloyd!
Great presentation
Thank you!
Cassette tank is easy to transport around the airport. LOVE IT!
Around the airport?!
@@MandyLea yeah its portable perfect for luggage / baggage convenient when flying especially during connecting flights. It has wheels and nice handle.
I remember, I love your vids my dear always a happy presentation
Thank you again Norman!
Perfect for a solo traveler
Exactly.
If $38,000 is correct for the price why would you not just buy a toy hauler and get way more room with all the options and then some I like the camper but 38000 seems way too much for what that is
Compact, no registration, 2 or 4 less tires to worry with, easier to store, cheaper to park…. But $38k…. Is ALOT
Thats a $12k rig, imo.
Was looking for you at the show but not sure if you were there on Thursday.- Thanks for the great videos from CO on the Fourteeners !
Aw bummer to have missed you! We only worked Saturday and Sunday..
Beautifully presented, thank you!
You're very welcome!
Great video and a great camper! Wish they made it for an 8’ bed!
They do!! Check out the CIRRUS 820 and 920!
Great presentation, Mandy. Looks like a fantastic half ton truck camper.
Thanks! Not my best, but the best I could do with the times...
I would have the proto type, I like it a lot better. Especially the bathroom+shower 🚿
Yep, it was a cool proto for sure!
Great review! But I really like the 670 models with an indoor shower.
I liked it too, unfortunately that one never went into production!
Wow, what was Cirrus thinking?! The 670 was a way better layout.
lighter dummy
Thank you for the nice review. Seems like it’s well-made and it’s light, but those prices are well out of my league. But there’s something for everyone
Thanks for the kind words, and yes you're right!
So this camper would have no problem fitting in a 6 foot bed Tacoma?
Also it was interesting about the airplane sounds.
Usually they take off and go away.
It's like the pilot knew you were trying to make a video and decided to keep buzzing you.
Taco’s won’t carry this
An F150 with payload package would. Add overload springs, tranny cooler and stiffer truck tires.
I drive a Camry. My plan is to go choose the pickup camper I like, get a truck recommendation from the dealer, then go trade the Camry in for the recommended truck (new), then return that same day to put the camper on the truck. Opinions?...
I think that is a great idea. You definitely need a truck to handle whichever truck-camper you choose. Which truck will greatly depend on the camper you choose :)
Good video, cool camper, but as always 1800+lbs is heavier than, what, 95% of 1/2 tons trucks can carry? :-/
Great unit. Thank you for a well thought out explanation.
Glad it was helpful!
very well done and aside from the aircraft, this is a very good unit, albeit for a single camper. my Sweetheart would not travel in it!
Luckily the aircraft doesn't come with a purchase of the unit! haha
@ Mandy Lea. Your calendars are top quality. I'm enjoying my two, flowers and Hawaii. Thank for the great art work. Virginia
Thank you so much Virginia!! I'm so grateful for your support!
Thank you! Very informative and appreciated.
You're very welcome!
Maybe a shower type curtain around the toilet would be a good idea.
Yep! Great idea!
Your reviews are ALWAYS so good...!! 😷👣
Nicely one tour. Thank you.
:)
@@MandyLea Forgot the d in done... I'm a terrible typist
Very cute and plenty for a single camper - but without a freezer, it would limit it for maybe only a weekend camper. Some single folks like this size for full-time rv-ing - there appears to be enough room to accommodate one in the fridge area - maybe it could be an option for those that like to take extended trips.
Can anyone comment why tischer in Europe is able to make a modsize slide in with a full wet bath that only weoghs 1300lbs and noone in the US is able to do this?
Beautiful Design
Thank you! Cheers!
I like this, but I loved the 670 with the shower. I don't know about taking outside showers when it's cold..
Agreed. An indoor shower would be nice, but they had to loose some things to keep the weight down :(
LOL,..damn that plane was obnoxious! but LOVE a camper that is compatiable for 1/2 ton
Yes, I am so sorry.
I like it. Indoor kamode, out door shower hook up, cabinet space for clothes, cabinet space for spices and food, t.v. hook up, two burner stove top, sink, Queen bed, A/C & heat option, 20 l.b.s. gas tank, big windows with screen & privacy shades, two seat kitchen seating, only one problem....I don't own my Toyota truck no more☹.
Questions:
Do you have radio & speakers in the truck camper? Do you have options of awnings like an unbrella fold out awning that raps around one side to the back of the truck camper? How much does the 620 cost?
Good presentation. Very informative. I'm a newbie still looking into this for retirement travel. Dumb question of the day. How do you access the ratchet binders after you've lowered the camper onto the truck to tighten them ?
Thanks.
Your hand should reach in between the bed rail and the bottom of overhang on the camper.
Very nice! Will you be reviewing the 400 T@B Boon dock Lite?
I've already done a video about the 400 - the Boondock lite just adds the larger axle and offroad tires (which I totally recommend)
@@MandyLea Thank you!
Think the 670 was a better design, I’m not a fan of pooping in my kitchen. I’m sure the added weight of it could have been handled with the addition of air bags or helper springs.
This is perfect. I wonder if a Toyota Tacoma will be able to handle it.
3.8?
How much for the 670
Was it really an aeroplane, or did Kendrick eat some bad chilli?
LOL! Too funny!
how much it cost?
Love you mande Lea
Love the cirrus
However the 620 is only built for one person.
There is no place to go to the bathroom.
I am married for 36 years and I have to be honest I have never went to the in front of my husband.
The 620 is not a good fit for that reason.
@@fayemarshall2254 works for you
That’s good.
In my 60 years I always used a closed room it’s a private time for some
I am not an avid camper
Just thinking about the right fit for retirement.
We will need a bathroom even if it’s a wet bath. Though I do love the idea of a compost!!
I understand what you're saying... there are folks of all kinds with different preferences. There is no "perfect camper", just the "perfect camper for you"
After watching several videos of being stuck in a freak snow storm, and the power going out, MAYBE every camper or RV needs to add a portable small wood burning stove with a separate smoke stack next to the propane stove exhaust fan. JUST IN CASE OF POWER FAILURES!?!
Excellent review!
Thank you kindly!
Awesome. Everyone in the camper has to vacate the premises so someone else can take a shit.
LOL. Much like camping. I mean, it's really not that out there.
Well engineered product
The worlds loudest airplane lol jeez im sorry
No kidding! SO annoying!
What happens if you are inside the camper and someone closes your tailgate? Are you stuck inside?
I really wish it had only one burner and a deeper wider sink. Otherwise, great camper.
Nice camper. The plane sounds like a crop duster.
I know! It was very annoying but it circled ALL DAY. :(
What fits a ram 1500 1/2 ton? I need a shower/toilet inside.
I would like to see which 1/2T trucks this will safely be carrying this camper. I would say this can only be SAFELY carried by a regular cab (2 drs) standard equipped truck with no options.
Is that an airplane in the background the whole time?
LOL, yes :( Just unfortunate timing! It was a plane doing circles pulling a big advertisement behind it...
GreaT REVIEW tHANK yOU.
Thank you!
Where are the batteries for the solar at that thing
This new model does not work for me. I loved your video on the 720 and it got my hopes very high until i found they dont make it. That bathroom/shower area was great.
So sorry they decided to change it up!
I need to start building truck campers. MSRP is $38k to start.
They should make a model Cirrus Black.
Interesting camper!
It really is!
Can i upgrade the cassete. The one seems kinda cheap and shitty
How much is the 620 for a half ton truck.
This girl hosting is bomb
Why thank you!
I still love the Cirrus campers. I’ve looked at them many times. Sadly, it’s fun sized. Not Pat size. Of course, what camper is really Pat sized?
LOL, The Cirrus 920? Haha
So glad they deleted the tv and microwave from the standard features!
Agreed ;)
Is it wood or aluminuim framed?
Aluminum
Idk there is just something off about the interior colors and space. Doesnt seem cozy like the lance version
Please, could you mention the price. Even if it’s rounded off. I hate an entire video on a camper, then NO mention of price. I have to go to the damn website to find the ballpark price. Thanks
Apologies. I try to mention price, but this particular video was of a prototype that did not even have a ballpark price at that time. The video is also 2 1/2 years old so it would not be accurate at this point anymore. The newest version of this camper is now called the Cirrus 620 if that helps.
Thank you.
You're welcome!
this is SUPER!!!
Thank you so much Bryan!!
@@MandyLea missing you teos videos... hope ALL is well...
Why can't they remove the Dinette? I would rather have a nicer toilet and shower than a full dinette.
Lots of folks want the dinette, so I guess they are just trying to please everyone! They are pretty customizable if you are creative!
@@MandyLea this is true. Maybe replace the dinette with a bar& stool set up? This would take up less space.
Privacy bathroom with a shower is a must for me otherwise it looks fantastic .😁
Totally get it!
Will this fit a 5 ft bed like a short bed Toyota Tacoma?
It's way too heavy for a Tacoma so it won't matter if it fits.
OMG. Endless aircraft departures.? 😂.
LOL! They had a stupid freaking airplane circling above with advertisements... ALL DAY LONG
@@fayemarshall2254 A very nice comparison! It's all relative I guess...
Just buy a 3/4 ton pick up, an put the shower back in, like on the 720.
How much
Price ?
Still too heavy and the tanks are too small. They could easily lighten this camper by choosing lighter materials for cabinets. A pop up camper is the way to go for half ton trucks. There are plenty of pop up campers available that weigh below 1200 pounds.
What’s the price $$$$
Good video
Thank you!
How much?
It's going to vary from dealer to dealer and your area/options. Possibly around 30k
@@MandyLea , Thank you very much.
How come all salesmen/women never own/afford the product they sell 🤔
All those big round plastic caps they use to cover the fasteners in the cabinetry and wood trim make it look really cheap. I expect better from nuCamp. I thought they were trying to be a premium brand.
Those fasteners cover the real wood screws. Would you prefer they use glue and staples?
Oh boy.
How. Much for this beast? Looks great
You lost me with the potty, who wants to crap right next to the dining room table.
If you want a tiny camper, there really isn't another option. You could look at 5th wheels.
Good report but no shower and the toilet placement sucks , good job
The prices for these things is ridiculous
The plane really wasnt that bad
Glad you made it through :)
No storage tho
i wish they kept the bathroom not sold on it shame
It is a bummer, but they had to do it for weight.
While the the gross weight of the camper is close to one ton, you have deemed it to be only 1/2 ton. Is this the new liars math.
Price with air and mic
Ummm say they price maybe...