Jim Cornette Reviews A&E's WWE Rivals: Undertaker vs. Kane
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
- From Episode 253 of Jim Cornette's Drive Thru
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Paul Bearer doesnt get nearly the credit he deserves for getting BOTH Undertaker and Kane over the way he did. As the original Paul Bearer…the voice,the makeup,the urn,I dont even think Vince could have imagined that execution. He fit with Undertaker seamlessly. Then when he turned heel,he became this evil,fat,vindictive heel and the infamous promo being choked by Taker “KANE IS ALIIIIIVE. YOUR BROTHER IS ALIVE UNDERTAKERRRR” . Then when Kane didnt talk,Paul (or Percy) really got that backstory over and made what could’ve been so stupid and laughable,believable. Now that I fully appreciate his WORK,you can so much of him in Paul Heyman’s current style of managing. God Bless Percy Pringle,a legendary manager who deserves his flowers big time.
The promo he did on Raw the night after Kane’s debut is a great example
Paul Bearer was an undertaker in his actual profession. That's why it was so good.
Paul knew the trick to make a book go over. Every time.
And the key was PERCY created that character and added those nuances after decades in the business. If you ever get the chance he was a great interview before he passed. RIP Percy Pringle.
A truly one of a kind talent.
At this point, Corny doesn’t say “Shit Stain” in a malicious way. It comes off matter of factly, like it’s just Russo’s name.
The Highest rated WWE Rivals that they could possibly do is Jim Cornette VS Vince Russo. I'm not sure there's enough printed money in existence to get Cornette to do it but it would be epic.
Jim would fight him for free.
Jim refuses to contribute to anything that can make Russo richer than he is even if it means fullfilling his promise to us when it comes to meeting Russo again.
They could do it, but it would have to be on HBO, so Corny could cuss. Cause if we can't hear Corny call Russo a "Dirty motherfucking, shitstain, asswipe, piece of shit, dick licking, fuckwad", then what's the point in even doing it at all?
Bald unmasked Kane in the 2000s was still terrifying. I always thought he had the perfect face and eyes to convince us he was the same character
I swear I was just thinking that. That unmasked kane was scary
they just booked him terribly. especially the stuff with triple h
And so, Glenn Jacobs' career was saved after two terrible gimmicks in WWF. Kane was amazing!
I'll never forget the 2001 Royal Rumble, which was his Rumble, in spite of Stone Cold's victory.
2001 kane was jacked af . jusus x_x
AEW should sign Glenn Jacobs/Isaac Yankem and make him Dr Britt Baker's father.
Britt already hurls insults at Glenn on twitter because he doesn’t adhere to her political ideology.
@@BB-ed4om even better. Family feud. Like Kurt Angle and Jason Jordan. Like Viscera and Rhea Ripley. Ill have to pitch it to Tony later.
@@BB-ed4om because glen thinks she shouldn't have rights. If you wanna call that a political ideology sure.
Terrible idea
Book it!
Absolutely love Kanes comeback in 2000 with the reverse colours, P. Bizzle walks out hands on hips and the place fucking erupts, awesome !
Are u talking about the all black outfit he briefly wore when he was with xpac..that one is my fav
@@chrisburrelljr9270 yeah, it was actually right after teaming with Xpac, the outfit is definitely his best 👌
if I'm not mistaken that was inspired by the mirror match palette from one of the old N64 games lol
P. Bizzle lol
@@drillosophy1012 saw someone call him P.Bizzle years ago and it popped me, so that's his name to me ever since 🤣🤣
I love how unapologetically Cornette admits to ripping off multiple bookers to create Hell in the Cell. No sarcasm, a true genius, taking all those ingredients to create a new dish.
A true heel move
People call him a copycat meanwhile the same people take exact spots from matches 20+ years ago
That's pretty much what every agent and booker do if they been in different territories
When you steal from one, it's plagiarism. When you steal from many, it's research. Another Cornette quote. ✌️
Very few things have been good original booking ideas that nobody came up with in the last decades and rightfully so.
Wrestling plays with the perception and the psychology of the crowd. you can alter the presentation and the flavour of things in order for them to remain fresh, but coming up with original ideas that nobody has come up with before without being too complicated or convulated is incredibly difficult, and i dont think that any booker nowadays have such genius that they Can pull this off.
"Can we just have them have a match first before they resort to cremation?"
Immortal words. True of both Kane and The Fiend.
When you think about it, the real rivalry was Undertaker vs. Paul Bearer. When he first turned on Taker and aligned with Mankind and Vader against him, it became all about Paul’s vendetta. And he single-handedly made this formerly and still somewhat supernatural character into a real person that had a family. Paul’s genius and skill made this entire thing.
That shit caught me by surprise. Lol.
“Jerks the door off” will never stop being absolutely hysterical to me. 😂
Who?
Retconning & convolution really tainted the character of Kane. He had been unmasked on several occasions in storyline. I believe in 1999, I can remember an instance when the corporation attacked Kane, unmasked him & took pictures of his face. They used the photos to blackmail him & reacted to his disfigured face. All that gets muddied when he unmasked in 2003 & stated that his scars were "psychological".
It all went downhill once he started dicking around with DX
Yes, but no one saw it until 2003
“Can we just let them have a match first before they resort to cremation?” That, my friends, is a hard quote to top.
This was a great doc, grew up loving the Taker-Kane rivalry. It was hilarious though that they omitted Dr Isaac Yankem and fake Diesel (even just so Glenn could 💩 on it), as well as their first match in Smoky Mountain.
Hilarious but not surprising. Glenn will literally hang up on people if they try to talk to him about it.
Because it was about Undertaker vs. Kane. Not Yankem vs Punisher or whatever. 🤷♂️
They covered it on the Most Wanted Treasures episode (A&E) and also on the episode of WWE Evil (Peacock)
I actually liked unmasked Kane, because the subtext (to me at least) was that he wasn't badly burned, he really just had severe body dismorphia, which I thought was an interesting development for the character.
Just want Kane's standalone documentary!!!! The kane till 2004 was untouchable 🔥
Yep after that WWE killed his mystic and swag. Idk why he and taker agreed to some of that stuff
Well more Kane than UNDERTAKER. But Kane was also involved in horrible storyline. Katie Vick comes to mind.
I swear, Vince is looking more, and more like a mail order ventriloquist doll everytime I see him!
Lol he looks labotomized in this artwork
He looks like the Vince McMahon Wax Sculpture at Madam Toussads' started to melt.
😂😂😂
Good shit, pal !!
No kane eating raw meat why even live
Listened to the drive thru on my journey earlier and just started listening so not sure mentioned here
But it is INSANE how much Jim changed/influenced certain things, be it the HIAC in WWF/E or Kane etc
He really isn’t appreciated on a level he should be.
When we are old we will tell the little wrestling kiddies about Uncle Jim!
One of the best stories they’ve ever done!
EVER!!
This rival between them reminds me of Terry Gordy, and Steve Williams where their great rivals, and fiercest tag team
I could have gotten behind at least 90% of Jim's concept of what he wanted for Kane, that shit would have been pretty badass.
I still think the costume they went with was a winner. That's one of the coolest attires in wrestling history. But yeah I would've loved to see the moldy bread Omen vignette lol
I enjoyed this A&E rivalry program to a certain extent. It was nice to hear from the undertaker and Kane speak about the different storylines (since well both of those individuals couldn’t talk as much without breaking kayfabe). What I felt that was boring was seeing them rehash the same footage from the undertaker documentary and seeing them gloss over 1999, 2001, 2002, and 2003. They barely even discussed Kane’s role in the buried alive match. But I digress.
These were two of the best characters the WWE has created. The mystique, the dark overtones, and the fact that they were monsters…made it extra special.
I think undertaker needed to change to the American badass because you could only do so much with the deadman/lord of darkness undertaker. There was no need for the ministry of darkness gimmick when the group disbanded. Plus undertaker adapted in the ring as a wrestler. I’m not sure who said this, but undertaker returning as the deadman (or a hybrid of the character) at XX was special not only because of Paul bearer, but he was able take a little of big evil in the ring and use that in the ring. He didn’t have to be big evil outside the ring. But he could use those moves without going full blown deadman in the ring.
I wonder if Corny knows that in every episode of Nash’s podcast he’s name dropped Jim. At least twice an episode too 😂
I like how the power-drill matches Kane's mask.
Craftsman Kane
Details.
its the little details....
There was a matching offer on at Walmart😂
Color coordination is very important.
Vince caught a case of Shawn Michaels Wonky Eye. I didn't know that kinda thing was even transferable between two people when they kiss. Crazy shit man!
"They shoudnt touch till Wrestlemania. Ofcourse Russo wants the next damn week. Kane to chokeslam The Undertaker throught the announce table" - Jim Cornette
Yeah we heard him say that. In this video and about a 1000 others. Why do people put quotes from the video in the comments?
@@jeffreyklima7612 they choose quotes that aren't that funny or good I hate the people that do this.
I love the insane brain of Vince "make new Razor and new Diesel Paaaal"😂😂😂😂😂
Yankem actually lasted over a year, appeared just before Summerslam 95 and last appearance was as late as the fall of 96.
One of the best rivalries in WWE history!!
"Halloween is my favorite horror movie of modern times". Halloween is almost half a century old. Aside from borrowing the iconic Halloween sit-up, Kane is much more similar to Jason Voorhees. The strap style mask, he's a thought to be dead child who grew into a monster (or an undead monster).
It’s still considered a “modern horror” considering the first true horror movie is basically from 1920 lol
A lot of Undertaker came from Michael Myers, and a lot of Kane came from Undertaker, and Michael Myers has always been more methodical than Jason Voorhees
Love how JC likes people. Then he finds out they have different points of view so they are crazy. 😂
Yeah, I've never been a fan with the way Jim has essentially dragged his name through the mud ever since he became a mayor. He talks about him like he's some evil person now because he happens to be a Republican politician. It's some very irrational thinking on his part. He legit goes on the most unnecessary 10 min rant about it in the Kane biography review.
@@saulsilver5753it’s unfortunate how political sycophants need to base their entire feelings of a decent man on all accounts/coworker for a decade on which politics they support. Really makes cornette come off bad not that he cares because he’s that radicalized. Hopefully this way of thinking is rooted out eventually
The Brothers of Destruction have the distinction of having the "Greatest Gimmick" of all time The Undertaker & the "Greatest Debut" of all time Kane.
It was a great documentary but, it just sucks it was only over an hour as went into detail about their respective characters, WM XIV, Unforgiven:In Your House, WM XX, and their final storyline in 2010. But, it left out their brawl at SS 2000, The Ministry vs. The Corporation, Judgment Day:In Your House and the fall out, and their reunions in 2006 and 2008 that forced them back together.
Barely a clip of their HIAC match. That was a dream come true for me as a kid.
Watch their episode of WWE Evil on Peacock
Jim's stories are chicken soup for the soul
If Jim gets inducted into the hall of fame one day his Speech will be: Thank you! Fuck you! Bye!
Lmao that could be his tombstone
He wouldn’t show up he will still be scared of Covid
It is soooo immature of corny to automatically dislike someone based on their political views... not every conservative is a psycho or gun nut, and not every liberal is a child predator lunatic
Halloween is also my favorite horror film series. Having it set in a suburb always freaked me out when I was growing up bc I could imagine it actually happening in my neighborhood. Its so scary bc its so relatable. Plus John Carpenter is my hero. Dude wrote the famous creepy piano line in the movies along with writing and directing too!
Something just dawned on me listening to Jim talking about how the old thick blue/black bar cage was so much stiffer than the far more forgiving chain mesh. Wasn't the last match featuring the old thick bar cage Austin vs Mcmahon at st valentines day massacre? Did he nix that version of the cage specifically because he had to experience it firsthand? "Goddamn pals! Why didn't you tell me how stiff that cage was?"
More than likely. Especially since Vince's tells them to lay it in thick when he wrestles. He took some ecw stiff shots into that cage. They probably nixed it because it's easier to lower the chain link cage than it is to have it built.
Thats why they changed the rings as well when Vince started taking bumps lol
JIM CORNETTE VS VINCE RUSSO! Ratings through the roof!
Best rivalry in wrestling
I'm loving both the rivals and the biography shows
Who are the people in the rivals shows?
The only upside to Fake Diesel, is that in hindsight we get to see Glenn Jacobs in his prime with long hair, (a look that would've made him look infinitely better than unmasked Kane with the bald head).
The unmasking was stupid but his lack of hair really killed it. He looked like someone's Uncle Cletus with the shortened hair. Then he just went bald.
I’ll never forget the promo where Paul Bearer is telling McMahon Kane is coming and Vince can’t help but crack up and keep laughing mid Bearer promo 😂😂
Lol Vince said Kane needed the killer instinct and Kane went on to become the biggest killer in WWE
Arguably that would be Benoit.
@@JoeMercersWay Benoit was murdered
They're (WWE/A&E) trying to emulate ESPN and their E60/30 for 30/Michael Jordan era Chicago Bulls The Last Dance documentary style,
they can do it, because they have epic rivalries and personalities to do them about.
The Corny Kane footage in training was gold.
He switched from Isaac Yankem to Diesel in September of 1996
Ok. I thought the Isaac Yankem vignettes were hilarious, very amusing and very well produced, specially the one with the goofy X-Ray view special effects. As a matter of fact, I consider the Isaac Yankem vignettes to be the best wrestling vignettes in history! Seeing those Isaac Yankem vignettes on a Saturday morning on WWF Mania made the rest of the day felt great! We all wanted more of those Isaac Yankem vignettes. Also, I think Kane's debut was amazing! Paul teased Kane for a very long time while no one got a glimpse of what he looked like. I was thinking Kane was going to be small and thin, to sort of give a slither and creep vibe of terror, like the feeling we get when we see a crawling insect. When Kane walked down the ramp on that HC match, everyone jaws dropped! HUGE AND SCARY! The costume looked great! Red makes everything look bigger. So, I think the way Kane was introduced was great. Also, it took me 4 years after Kane made his debut to figure out the guy wearing the mask and costume was Glenn. Around the year 2000, I was scrolling through some news articles on AOL and seen an article on Kane, that's where I found out Glenn is Kane.
Just because you don't like Glenn Jacob's politics shouldn't make him a lunatic . It seems a bit disingenuous . Enjoyed the show otherwise.
Unmasked Kane in chains with security escorts was awesome
Jim wrote the prequel to “See No Evil”
Isaac Yankem wasn't as bad as the Fake Diesel gimmick
9/11 wasn't as bad as the Fake Diesel gimmick.
Bastin booger wasn’t as bad as the Fake Diesel gimmick
Nash did more than that and Jim knows it he's just trying to annoy Nash lol Takers change kinda worked because they said he got his human soul back, but Kane's was stupid because he literally had black make up on which was supposed to be his scars and then it was gone lol
Debuts for Glen Jacobs
Summerslam ‘95 - Yankem vs Bret
Raw after ‘96 Buried Alive - Fake Diesel
Hell in a Cell ‘97 - Kane
Jacobs '24
Never mind Unabomber, never forget the Xmas creature (or whatever it was in Memphis)🎄🎄
I can't help but think these creative meetings at WWF were a mirror of the ones going at a Days of Our Lives....Male Soap Opera, I've always said...
They kept Kane strong for a year and a half and then they booked terribly for the rest of his run. One of the biggest what ifs in the last 25 years. And that says a lot
What I mean by what if:
The kane character was successful because of the initial idea and the work ethic and dedication of Glen. The booking didnt help him at all after 1999. There were many times Vince couldve pushed him as the monster heel or tweener that is demented but the fans love. Instead for majority of the time Kane was the gatekeeper. Anytime they put him in a long angle with someone, the other person was being groomed to be world champion/main event push. And he was beaten on tv so many times its a shame
He shouldn’t have lost to Austin clean after winning the belt, and they shouldn’t have given him a series of girlfriends unless he would still be seen as dangerous around them instead of abnormally sensitive
Percy also managed Undertaker before the old WWF & Bruce. Also before Heyman in the NWA/WCW...
I know people don’t care for unmasked Kane but that first run literally was terrifying! Unmaked Kane was a beast for that first run! Everyone was scared of him!
If I'm not mistaken Kane as Yankem worked with Bret at Summerslam 95, and was only used sparingly after that.
Only times I remember him afterwards on PPV was at Survivor Series (coincidentally eliminated by Undertaker) and then at Royal Rumble 96. There might have been a dark match at one of the IYH against Bret but that's all from what I remember.
I extremely liked the idea of Kane being kept in a dark room and doing the things that horror use today. I was going to look it up on RUclips but when Corny stated that Vince didn't go that route, I was disappointed because it was my cup of tea.
I don't see why Cornette doesn't like Russso, wrestling is in a terrible condition where if Russo and Cornette is on the same page of the same book, a wrestling promotion will flourish and encourage competition among promotions.
I remember when they announced that Razor and Diesel were coming back I immediately thought, "Holy shit! They really are going to have an interpromotional ppv!" which is what I thought when Hall and Nash first showed up on WCW television.
Please tell me you were 12
As much fun as hearing Jim ripping on AEW is, I could listen to him talk about WWE/WWF all day.
Whenever he watches WWE, he always finds at least one or two things he genuinely likes, and hearing his passion for wrestling mixed in with the ranting is always better than him talking about AEW which will end up being a minuscule portion of wrestling history with a very limited future.
Anyone who says vince McMahon is a genius should just watch this. His original ideas are garbage. He supposedly can put a cherry on top of things but that's about it. It was always the guys making his garbage smell better. If Steve's wife didn't say stone cold his name would have been ice dagger or chilly mcfreeze or a combination and you would have got a month in wwe and vince would blamed Steve.
I just recently found out Kane has an autobiography. I saw it at Dollar Tree.
6:35 Brian Last is the antichrist of good radio
Yankem debut at summerslam 95
He was used until about beginning of 1996
26:00 That's what always made me wonder. To be a fly on the wall when Kane went to be fitted for his leather outfit. And then I wondered who paid for it. Paul? Did they steal it? What's he do in his off time?
I bet in storyline Paul had a lot of money he cheated Undertaker out of and he used that to have Kane trained and his gear made.
@@raynwolfsbane2084 Yup. 🔨 💅 nail on the head. That's how I was thinking too
What did Glenn Jocobs ever say or do to be labelled a political "lunatic". Is that just what Jim calls anyone who isn't a left-wing Democrat?
Honestly I like his wrestling commentary but his political rants and left-wing bias are really off putting.
Notice how he said he liked him until he found out his politics. Then all of a sudden he's a "lunatic" smh. Dude is great to listen to until anything political comes up.
@@YungSpaceship It's because Republicans are destroying America and taking away our rights. And as a fan of the Kane character and of Glenn as a worker this pains me to say but Glenn is part of the problem unfortunately.
@@SpinosaurusTheProudSocialist lay off the crack and look around you. It's not republicans. Either way, nobody is coming here for politics and cringe takes on how everyone who disagrees is a lunatic.
jerry the king lawler came up with the issac yankem gimmick based on that old joke
One thing I never understood is when Undertaker debuted with Ted DiBiase, his name was Cain the Undertaker. Then years later his mysterious "brother" shows up and his name is "Kane". Why did the person/people in charge of making up the Undertaker gimmick origin story have such a hard on for the name Cain/Kane?
It comes from the Cain/Abel bible story. They were brothers. Cain killed Abel. It’s the brotherly rivalry. And Bruce said he always loved Cain spelled Kane.
that was like one time before they just went to Undertaker. When he debuted at Survivor Series 90 DiBiase just said, "from Death Valley, The Undertaker".
It was Bruce’s creation . He had the idea for a character named kane for a while. He speaks on it in his a&e bio. Taker decided to not use it since the name was so long & just stick with “The Undertaker”. Once the Undertaker “younger brother” angle came up the “Kane” idea fit perfectly with the story
@@Clubber-Slang It was more than just one time. When I saw him at a house show months after his debut he was still being introduced as Cain the Undertaker.
@@SuperbNProsper Thanks for the information on that.
Has Jim reviewed Ric Flair’s last match short film yet? I’d love to hear his thoughts!
Same but I dont think they will. I enjoyed it a lot
Looking forward to Jim discussing Vince’s retirement.
I don't remember Nash doing choke slam I remember him doing a side slam
Diesel has done it a few times, like..a few
@@slyfox2022 which Diesel though?😉
Not saying he's never done it, but it was not a common enough thing to be included inhos '5 moves of doom'.
Also, during time of his run, chokeslam itself was almost exclusive to Undertaker within WWE.
Holy shit the image of Kane brooding while all the pictures of Undertaker are burning around him sounds badass.
Yeah that voice box thing was great, at that time, I thought he really needed that thing.
Really tells you what a creative genius Vince Mcmahon is, hearing all these stories from Bruce, Jim etc and still making your own decision thats eventually a success...truly a Legend.
That 1st Isaac Yankem vignette featured Bucky Beaver as a patient with bloody gauze over his mouth running out of the dentist office. A definite rib by Vince on Dunn.
A lot of people do not remember the first time we saw the undertaker. He was the million dollar man's mystery partner for survivor series. And the milion dollar man grabbed the microphone in the ring and introduced him as Kane the undertaker
Kane losing the mask was fine. But he didn't need to lose his top or shave his hair
Yeah he was too nice.. Other than his unhinged phase that was decent but He should have used his star power as leverage in some way. Keep the top and hair I say.
I just love the ideas that Jim came up with the raw meat. "If you don't like it, blame your brother." Dead
I’d bet my left leg if Glen and Jim had a debate about their differing political views, Glen would wipe the floor with Jim and/or Jim would start yelling and not let Glen finish his point. Anyway, I like both of them in an entertainment sense.
Cornettes TDS NEVER LETS ME DOWN IN THE END
He showed it in the beginning too
There were two great blue cage matches: Hogan/Orndorff & Bret/Owen
Helmsley vs Mankind in 97 wasn’t bad
I had no idea Jim shared such a hand in The Undertaker storylines, which was ironic in that his mouthy manager character was often the one antagonizing the Undertaker and sending his proteges after him. Lol! But you can tell just from Jim Cornette's personality as shown here in this video as well as many others, he is the perfect kind of guy for the writer's team. He has that personality to know what will keep you enthralled and engrossed in something just like his whole delivery throughout this video kept me enthralled. He seems like a natural storyteller and probably who WWE need to hire back right now.
Vince was right to make kane look the way he did in terms of the red mask an that whole look he looked a million dollars an larger than life. Also Glen was a big part of the mask coming offf he said himself he felt it had ran its course at that time an it was getting harder to work in an he had to keep getting new ones all the time because they'd shrink or break after a couple of matches
Very few things were as upsetting as when Kane started keeping his mask -with built-in wig- in a glass case to take out occasionally for matches.
I watched Rivals Kane vs Taker Rivals, and Freddie Jr said „ as a Kid“ , I looked his age , he was 21yars 97.
Can definitely tell Jim is more a fan of Halloween than Friday the 13th. "That Jason didn't really have a look he just appeared from the water, all disfigured and pulled them undah."
Kane's look was awesome. Jim's just ripping off horror movies.
Glenn Jacobs has a face that needs a mask, same as Rey Mysterio.
The original mask was cool.
10:22 *intensely waiting on hair flip*
So it sound like ol' James E. came up with a Mankind style look for Kane.
That's gotta be Kane.
I wanted to hear something nice about the feud but all i can hear is Cornette having political derangement syndrome.
Personally loved the American Badass. Unmasked Kane….no so much.
When Lawler was fueding with Bret- there was a cage match where Isaac Yankem was to fight a no interference cage match w/Bret. It was horrendous and I only watched bc I love The Hitman. ❤️
If there's anyone that not only deserved a longer title reign, but deserved more World Championship runs, it's Kane. Seriously, Vince McMahon's 2nd greatest creation next to The Undertaker. 7 foot tall, 326 pounds, the red lights, the fires of hell shooting to the rafters. I just feel that he should've had a longer WWF Title run in 1998 & more importantly, he could've been a multi time World Champion. He could've had 1 or 2 WWF Titles & then later on, 1 or 2 or POSSIBLY 3 World Heavyweight Titles. But hands down, one of the greatest characters of all time.
I loved the first Hell n the Cell. I didn't care as much for the old cage matches because of 2 main reasons. First it had to hurt the talent. I mean they were bars. They could kill someone if landed wrong. And the second thing was when someone was thrown through the cage it would move with them and sometimes become would come apart. I think the only problem that was mentioned about the Hell in the Cell was they were hard to climb. I think UNDERTAKER mentioned that the match he had with Mankind he had a broken foot. And Mankind said and those kind of cages were hard to find.
@9:55 So that is the origin of the 5 moves of doom.
I remember Cena and I talking to Jim backstage and undertaker walking up and said to us ask jim about the banana and Jim's face turning red with that smile and laugh that he has.