In my opinion, they both look great, just in different ways. The FN is like a Lamborghini Countach- designed almost 30 years ago but still looks futuristic. Ruger is like a muscle car- classic, traditional, and timeless. Both are sexy in different ways.
@@KingOdie520 not to mention the price. I got my Ruger 57 brand new for $680. Cheapest I found the FN was $1200. My only gripe about the Ruger is it does not come cerakoted.
@@jeffhaire1984 yeah but with the money you save you can get it cerakoted any color you want. I paid $535 for mine brand new that was 2 years ago when the were new
@@carmelogarcia4864 I just paid a bit over $800 for my Five Seven. It was used, and about a decade old, but I didn't mind, and it looked clean and only very slightly used.
I am team FN all the way. That said, I am thrilled that Ruger finally jumped in the 5.7 arena. I hope many more follow and cause such a demand for 5.7x28 that more manufacturers will start to produce it and drive the cost down. That way we have more of a choice than FN brand, or FN brand reloaded by Federal.
Same. Just bought a Five-seveN and haven't fired it yet.. but I like the guns. Haven't owned many pistols until recently, so the safety placement being different doesn't bother me. I can see how it would be annoying to someone like a tactical shooter or someone who has spent years training in with a more common safety position. And they are super lightweight, which is pleasant. They are light, and mostly polymer, but they aren't cheap. The parts that need to be metal are metal. FN knows how to make guns. The only major downsides (actual ones, not opinions, like the aesthetics or the feel) are the price of the gun/ammo, and the lack of customization options, and then there are some small things I don't think would be a dealbreaker for many people. That being said, I feel like I'd have to recommend the Ruger to people. Seems like the better buy, from an unbiased standpoint. It's just gonna be more familiar, and cheaper. It's got some out of the box features that give it a bit of an advantage to the FsN. But I'd tell them I like the FsN more. I like the way it works for me, and I'm a big fan of FN, and it's a fun gun for me to shoot, and it may find itself being carried in a vehicle or something like that.
It really blows my mind that this cartridge hasn't become more popular. Clearly, we need a few hundred more options for 9mm, as well as highly needed new cartridges such as the *30 INSANE CRAZY SUPER DUPER CARRY* .
Got the Ruger 57. Wanted the FN but when I picked it up to hold many years ago, didn't fit well in my hand. Years later, Rugers 57 fits like a glove. Now I want to see how well the new FN 57 MRD will fit
5.7 is my absolute favourite round for self defence. High velocity, has stopping power and will tear up whatever target it hits, but not the person behind the target.
@@excervis yes and no, when you look at ballistic tests the 5.7x28 does a wonderful job both at focusing on a small diameter on first contact for penetration and then going bananas transferring energy to soft tissue both through cavitation and tumbling inside the body. I believe in 2009 in the Fort hood shooting by major Nidal Malik Hasan (using a FN five-seven), every shot placed on the torso above the belly button either killed the target instantly or incapacitated them on the spot for them to die in hospital within 2 weeks.
Yup, almost never over pens. Every gell test I have conducted shows this round dumps tons of energy at point of contact then goes no further than 12 inches. I have never seen a round exit the gel.
@@Painrunner everytime someone tells me I wasted my money on a .22 on steroids I always tell them if that’s the case what happen at fort hood?? Plus all my rounds are from Elite ammo so I laugh I had one person tell me at the range I’ll take them shots and still keep charging at you and beat u with ur own gun I kept laughing at the clown
A great review by two guys that have really helped me improve my shooting. I have the Ruger 57 and love it. As a lefty, the ambidextrous safety and having the mag release move to the right hand side was very handy. Low recoil, lightweight, and shoots great.
I love the 5.7 round. I just bought the Ruger LC Carbine. Super accurate, even out to 300 yards. I was able to get 4-5 inch groupings from 300 yards standing up.
I actually like the plastic cover on the FN Five-seveN because it allows the slide to have less mass (and therefore inertia) while not having any holes cut in the slide for dirt and debris to get in.
The safety is up front on the FN because your trigger finger is meant to be out of the trigger guard and extended it will be touching the safety. Flick it off on your way into the trigger guard. Support hand thumb is counter intuitive because during the draw your finger should be on the frame touching it.
@@eatidedinanorteno8692 Ruger has better ergonomics, smaller, cheaper, better stock iron sights, more customization options, and has the same magazine capacity as the FN and you’re going to write it off because a malfunction that could’ve been any number of external factors? I think someone is just mad they overpaid for a 1st gen fn 5.7. Both guns are impressive firearms no doubt, but bias aside you’re just wrong.
I just picked up my FN Five Seven today - looking forward to trying it out this weekend the range. I'm not having any problems finding ammo for it (American Eagle and FN Herstal), although it is pricey. I certainly considered the Ruger, but I just prefer that old-school, classic 90s design of the FN. I thought the exact same thing as you guys, the first time I picked it up.. It felt like a toy. From the comparison videos I've seen, I think the Ruger tends to win out over the FN. I just prefer the looks of the FN - What can I say; I'm shallow.
They each have their own area of expertise and advantages. I found that out after owning them. I lean towards the ruger because of the fact my edc is a 2011 10mm
10mm is awesome. Just bought my first weapon in the caliber. A cmmg banshee mk10. Love everything about the round out of the 8inch barrel. Don't think I would like it in a pistol. Already has a decent kick out of the cmmg. My edc is the ruger 57. Love the 5.7. Almost decided on cmmg's 5.7 in 12.5inch barrel but really wanted to try the 10mm and really enjoy it. It's a hard hitter, 5.7 with my lc carbine has almost zero recoil. Sometimes you need to feel a bit of kick lol
My long term use of the R57 has let some aspects float to the top that put the FSN ahead of it, IMO. At least until the Rock 57 from PSA comes out. The Ruger has slimmer magazines (metal), but there are quite a few instances of Ruger having to replace the magazines because they don't feed, or allow users to load to capacity. Magazine release mechanism was poorly designed, and sits too far forward. PSA went with a modified R57 magazine, but moved the release catch to the side of the mag, and enlarged and brought the button in a much better position. Ruger nitrides the barrel, but not the slide, and surface rusts very easily. Internal components just don't seem overbuilt (robust) as the FSN. I prefer the safety up front, but that's YMMV.
I agree with a lot of the topical points people make about these two guns. The safety doesn't bother me personally and i actually prefer it because it is much more streamlined than the Ruger. Also when you tear these guns down to clean them and compare the quality its not close IMO. Not to mention the FN weighs less loaded than a glock 19 weighs empty.
Interesting, I always thought ruger had decent QC, at least they did back in the day a few years ago I would always recommend them as a good budget option. Sad to see that about the ruger 57 then. I’ll have to check out your channel, looks like you do a ton of ammo testing too, awesome! I’ve always been intrigued by the 5.7x28 I’ve wanted a ps90 forever I think that’s like one of my holy grail guns. Maybe some day I’ll get one yet. Maybe not the most practical gun in the world but it’s just such a cool design. That and I think the 5.7 is seriously underrated in the self defense world.
Sounds like the only problems are coming from the mags. I have a R57 I haven’t had any feed failures under 17 rounds. I do know the mags from PSA rock 57 will fit in the ruger I wonder if this will fix that problem.
Ran across this just after taking several of my non-gun friends down to the local range. The FN has long been the initial gun I put in these novice hands for its weight, handling, lack of recoil and with a very good set of ear protection. I may not have converted anyone but I sure as hell didn’t chase them away. Great, great gun
I bought the Five-SeveN MK3 last year. It was a bit pricey but so was my PS90 which made me a believer in FN firearms. I’m glad that I didn’t get the Ruger or PSA. The MK3 comes ready to mount a red dot, light weight, and very accurate. Personally, it’s a huge improvement over the previous generation that I was looking at a couple years ago. Ammo was never a problem sourcing for my PS90 so I don’t know why that always comes up when discussing 5.7x28mm. I think some folks only go to Walmart and base availability on what they sale or just can’t afford it. I heard all the same stories about 10mm over the years.
I have the FN & I love it! What I don't love is how much the ammo cost! Even the plinking ammo is expensive! I put fluorescent paint on my sights & that improved visibility
I owned the Ruger 57 and got rid of it. I had so many issue with parts breaking and jams I just didn’t think it was a fire arm that I could depend my life on. FN all the way
@@aSucidalPanda Lol, as the ruger malfunctions almost immediately. Was going to get one but I'll have to get the FN. Most american guns are trash. That's why I like HK, walther, and FN. Don't ever have to question wether my life depends on it with these guns.
@@aSucidalPanda my dad had 2 and sold them both years ago never had parts breaking but he said they would jam often 57 is my favorite gun but it’s gotta be fn
@@aSucidalPandabro your just lying to yourself and trying to cope cause u can’t afford an FN 💀💀 stop trying to gaslight this man cause you’re broke and coping
From this day forward all fanboys on this channel will be referred to as Andy’s. We just had a guy rage quit our channel because Coch who owns both of these guns and Myles who has never shot either both kind of favored the Ruger over the FN 57. I’ve heard other channels talk about upsetting fanboys but wow. I also own both of these guns. I don’t care about either one of them to have much of an opinion. But for you Andy’s out there here it is anyway. The FN is a boutique ahead of its time concept gun that has a very unique feel to it. The Ruger has more of a traditional feel to include ergonomics/ manual of arms. Which is all Coch was really saying. Myles being a guy who spends more free time and personal resources on shooting guns than anyone I’ve ever met, which is saying a lot. Probably initially preferred the Ruger due to the fact that it felt more familiar to him. This video is not intended to be an in-depth review or analysis of these pistols. It was a snapshot opinion piece coming from a firearms subject matter expert who owns both pistols and a guy who was never shot either. Oh and that goes for all you Andy‘s out there as well. You can refer to yourselves and each other as Andy’s. It’s not meant to be derogatory, it’s more of a badge of honor for this guy. Not that he will ever know because like I said he rage quit the channel.
In the first 3 minutes, you pointed out why I traded in FN for Ruger. Feel, safety position, and price. Then about 6 months later I found the 57 Carbine. Both are so easy to shoot that anyone in my home can use it. Highly recommend these two firearms and of course an M1A, my first gun.
I had both and now i only own the ruger. I change the trigger to a tandemkross and is such a great shooter now, ruger is also better balance for follow up shots.
Not sure I would give the edge to the firearm that jams on camera. Yes, I have a dog on the fight since I have an FN. It has never jammed with FN mags and FN ammo. Yes, you are correct there is an expense involved with the FN, but if you need to depend on a firearm that will function without any jams or misfires then it is best to spend the extra cash.
I bought the FN because in KALIFORNAE, it's the only 5.7x28 that we are ALLOWED to have! Still, if I could've TRIED one of the other two, I think that I would've went with the FN anyway. I have big hands, and it feels SOOooOOo good in them! Ammo was not as expensive as I thought, and there seems to be a LOT of it here. I HATE the 10-rounders but there's not much I can do about that (for the time being) but in any case, the gun was accurate out of the box!! Recoil was next to nothing, the point was easy, the sights (tritium) were spot on, the mags dropped freely from the well, and even with a full one, the gun is incredibly light!!!The trigger is wide, which I like very much. Out the door, I paid $1,374 (thank you, Midway USA). It arrived at my local gun store about four days later, went down, DROS'ed it up, waited my 10 days (grrrr) picked her up and brought her home! I love her! I made a good choice! ❤
Elite Ammunition is the way to go in 5.7mm. It is MUCH hotter ammunition, and could be considered 5.7mm+P. Elite T6B from a handgun is 2300fps/350+ fpe energy.
I picked a Ruger 57 after it came out I love the gun and also agree with everything you both said... By the way, I DID NOT buy the FN because of the awkward safety position... Great review of these guns and of this expensive but awesome round...
I thought it was weird too, but I figured I would just get used to it and Ill be damned if that isnt what happened. I actually really like it now. Keeping the finger off the trigger then sweeping down the safety while getting to the trigger is super convenient. Then when you take your finger off the trigger you feel the safety and you are like "oh yeah, time to re-engage the safety".
@@GunsNGames248 The Ruger has Hi-Point internals, cheaply made barrel, no trigger drop safety, so can't carry with one in the pipe. The magazines are worse than Promag. I would do some research first. Recalls etc. No military or government agency carries it. At least the drug cartels and Secret Service carry the FN (LOL)
With the ruger, sink your grip more to the back and I actually have to shoot from almost 25yds to be consistent because of the ballistics. There's quite a difference from the 40gr American eagle ammunition to the 27gr FN ammo. There's hardly any recoil and it's super expensive but fun to shoot. I take mine coyote hunting for close range kill shots
I finally got my hands on some 27 grain and holy moly, you are right. The point of impact at 15 yards with the 27 grain is almost 7 inches higher than the 40 grain. While it is expensive, I tried to look at it in another perspective and that helped me feel better about blasting a hundred rounds at a time; As of now, 5.7X28 is about $0.96/rd where I live. 44mag is $2.20/rd, .357 is $0.84/rd, .45 auto is $0.72/rd, .380 auto is $0.60/rd, 5.56 is $0.80/rd, and .308 is $2-4/rd. It is considerably more expensive than 9mm, but not really what I would consider "prohibitively expensive". Sometimes it is cheaper than .223 and people blast that stuff 500rds at a time. Hopefully the change in perspective will ease the pain of shooting a box of 5.7x28 Of course I wish it were cheaper, but I think the biggest problem with it is the availability, or the lack thereof.
Great job! Thanks for the comparison. I have the FN and always wanted to see a comparison. You confirmed my suspicion that the Ruger has the advantage as a stock gun. I had some of the same issues with the FN so I added an RMR kit from FN Specialties and a replacement short trigger from Elite Ammunition. Gun is accurate and doesn't fell as wide with the short trigger. The 5.7 round is a joy to shoot. Much fun for Coyote and other varmints. Unfortunately, there are very limited choices for FN holsters and mag holders. But with 30 round mags you may only need 1 mag holder.
People who attack the FN and praise the Ruger come off as coping so hard in the comment section, which is odd since FN owners (generally) dont belittle Ruger owners. I have never seen anyone say "I chose the Ruger because it was half the cost." At least be honest. The FN is remarkably expensive and there is absolutely no shame in choosing the Ruger due to budget limitations. I am happy if you did get it because of financial restrictions because that at least tells me you are financially responsible enough to not break the bank and still get a 5.7x28. But when people start saying things like "I chose the Ruger because the FN feels like a toy", we all know what you really mean is "I wanted the FN, but couldnt afford it and now I am defensive about it."
If anything you sound like you're coping hard to rationalize your purchase 😂 💀 I owned a FN for years as I love the caliber and for a while it was the only option. The fn is a first gen 5.7 pistol that is 30 years old at this point. They are ok for what they are but to buy one nowadays knowing they don't come optic ready, are known for terrible stock triggers, basic tier sights, and low capacity compared to literally every other option not to mention ZERO aftermarket support means you're paying for brand loyalty and that is it. You shouldn't have to drop hundreds of dollars into a brand new 1500 pistol just to modernize it so it has features that come stock on even the cheapest pot metal HiPoints these days. Having owned both as well as a PSA rock I have to say I sold my fn because everything about that gun is proprietary and fn aren't exactly actively supporting any aftermarket parts or modding so you are stuck with it as is which is unacceptable for the price tag imo.
@@davidabest7195Terrible stock triggers? Those come with personal preference and training. Low capacity? 20 rounds is a very large amount of ammunition for a pistol. Why is basic tier sights a bad thing? Zero aftermarket support? What? You can find threaded barrels and other things online. Yeah the price is absurd but I like the looks of it and if someone wants to pay for that, let them. Stop being elitists, it’s repulsive.
Almost purchased an fn rifle in 5.7, a few years back at a gun show. I have never fired one but recently purchased the Ruger 57. I like the ergonomics of the weapon, but have not been to the range yet...I recently purchased the Kimber Target II IN.45acp with 6" barrel in stainless. So money doesn't come into it at all...
Exactly my brother. I went to the gun store and asked for a FN Five Seven and the owner took out the original FN Five Seven it was at $899.99 and took out the Ruger 5.7 and I bought the Ruger with taxes @ $726.79. I can imagine how much the FN would've came out too. Maybe like 950ish or a lil more with taxes. Don't be offensive bro. Keep it cool you'll be fine. But I did hear that the Ruger is better for the price. Yeah the rounds are expensive $1 a round so I bought a box of 50 for $50 but I'm going to buy more
I ccw the fn. Ill take the zero malfunctions over the ruger. The safety is something you have to train for or you can leave it off since its technically a half cocked double action.
Everybody that makes a video about the 5.7 x 28 all says the same thing. The ammo is expensive and hard to get. I don’t know what they’re talking about because you go to any place in my city and you can get 5.7 x 28 ammo very easy for 30 bucks a box
As far as I've heard no "official" agency has to date endorsed purchase of the Ruger (open to correction), whereas the FN Five seveN has had multiple "official" users, across the world. As to optics the new FN Five seveN Mk3, MRD comes predrilled for an optic, and FN even give a list of approved examples. The comment about the safety isn't even worthy of a comment.
The Ruger is comparatively new to the market and hasn't even been put through any official trials that I'm aware of. The FN has seen numerous recalls, revisions and updates over the years. Let's be honest, the early FNs had serious issues and it was still adopted, any issues the Ruger has can be dealt with as well.
@@harrypeterson9287there’s been weapons that were relatively new and accepted into usage for military / LE all over the world 😂😂 stop making excuses bro the Ruger is cheap garbage and that’s why only budget shooters use it
I would like to add one more thing, this gun would be very easy to carry, it is extremely lightweight and handles nicely. It might feel like a toy, but I think that’s a very good thing it’s lightweight and fits in your hand good it has almost no recoil. Compare that to high recoiling 9 mm pistols, I think it’s a no-brainer
ruger got recalled,fn made this to start and they are made in the USA to,psa just came out with theirs and sell out right away plus their holds 23 rds,there are others that make small AR style in this caliber.
Lmao. Ruger had A recall. It was for a small lot. It does not represent the R57 at all. FN has had recalls too. It's called machinery breaks down on assembly lines and can cause qc issues. Not uncommon. A small lot was recalled. Not because of any design flaw but a manufacturing one.
I just got 2 brand new mark 2 five sevens. One has tritium night sights. Paid 650 and 700 for them respectively. Know it’s not the norm but I got a killer deal one in fde and black and one in full black. Would still love to own the new smith and Wesson m&p 5.7 though, thing looks nice
Failure to cycle and the Ruger uses way cheaper parts, especially compared to the FN barrel. The weight matters to me and the safety is too bulky on the Ruger. If I hadn't bought the 5.7 I would consider the Ruger for the price. That being said pretending the Ruger is in the same league as the FN is disservice to anyone trying to make a decision between to the two if cost isnt the primary decision when comparing these two guns.
Yes I own both , I was little hesitant because I already had the FN. But couldn't pass up trying the ruger for price and watching all the videos saying it was killing the FN.But after shooting the ruger and having mag problems I realized these u tube guys were lying . I do lie the ruger safety and sights plus red dot ready. But safety on the FN just makes since that's all that matters not hat you are use to. FN is just a way better gun I never sell a gun but the ruger is always in the shoot to get traded.
@@anthonymckay9404 welp I never had a single mag problem. Does that make me a liar because you seem to personally have issues with a mag that doesn't have a single issue with it?
@@tb5856 I have it posted here in a few quick videos I made for buds on my channel. Click me and look for the MP-57 stuff or search for MP-57 in the search area and find me that way. I have it setup basically the same still but now have a small Romeo Zero red dot on it instead of the Romeo 4 in videos. It is my fave small PDW bag gun. Which says alot since I own some like a MPX and MCX Canebrake and Rattler both in 300. Anyways you'll like it, if you can find one anymore that is👍
Sold my ruger to get the fn, the mags simply are better. Ruger's mags rusted very easily, just sitting in my house. Both are awesome guns, but as a carry gun, fn won out for me in the end
I love Ruger so glad they came out with this so! Way more afforable than the FN AND BETTER GRIP. Rugers been around for generations and the wear and tear is always gonna be dependable from ruger in my opinion!
You will soon have to get the new Rock from PSA and do this comparison all over again. I have the Ruger. It is a great firearm. Just wish the ammo was more widely available and less costly.
I've never seen ss197sr shoot faster than 1700fps from the FiveSeven, and never more than 1800fps from the Ruger 57. I've been wanting to try the PSA Rock... but haven't got my hands on one yet. I got the Ruger for my wife, and honestlyvenjoy shooting it better than the FN. It has a much more natural grip angle, lower barrel axis, and sights are awesome. The only thing I don't like about it, is the limitations for optics. If you get anything just a gram too heavy, and you'll run into cycling issues. FYI to anyone buying the Ruger... every single one I've seen, shoots low right outta the box.
I brought mine my FN yesterday, guy walks up and like OMG this guns at a stupid price (new)999.00 He goes get this it doesn’t jam, the Ruger was next to it, I reach for it and he said no get this one(FN) it doesn’t jam. Then I watch this video and the Ruger jams. Thank you for not editing that out of the video. Why buy a potential and known paper weight? It’s like buying a .380 in the 90’s. Not that I’m that old. 😂😂😂😂
I appreciate the Ruger commercial; but the FN is no toy in the right hands. FN stands for quality and reliability. Ruger makes excellent weapons. I am fortunate to own more Rugers than FNs as my pocketbook empties quickly on the FN side of the equation. You should not buy the FN unless you can afford the P90 too. The 5.7 round is a great John Wick to the head and neck round. Having been in law enforcement for twenty years more than that time ago, I do not shoot center of mass. I shoot the head, neck, and legs. I will defeat body armor. The cops today that empty their magazines should be fired. Always charge the peril, assess while doing, address and attract the objectives attention by engaging him or her with verbal acuity, while taking control of the threat(s’) environment. Time is critical and lives depend on you. Those cops in TX need to resign. Kids died while they did nothing. If you are afraid, then find another job. What a disgrace. The review was fine and I enjoy your videos; but it seems to me you were negative before the camera turned on. Good gravy - I do not mean to give advice to two guys way more knowledgeable than I; but since it was a new round for both of you …, maybe start at five or seven yard range first before imputing your skill level abilities onto the unknown. I still enjoyed your efforts.
5.7x28 is a very good and best pistol. If this bore is made in clash design, I say with full confidence that it will be in demand not only in the world, but in Pakistan. It is that people are buying their local and not foreign ones. Patak is very good. It should be designed in Kalashan but should be made in every assault rifle. People will also get this bore in their favorite gun. The company will also do good business.
Fun to shoot, low recoil, high capacity. The ruger is more reliable across more ammo if the mags work, finish is weak. Overall the round doesn't make much sense, especially in a short pistol barrel. Even the 'most potent' variants of 5.7x28mm ammo that civilians can't buy was not able to penetrate the older russian armour P90. There is a 'Nato PDW trials' test together with the MP7 and it's ammo, both didn't do the job they were meant for. With pistols it's less velocity and velocity is what they need. If one is hiking a lot and wants to take lots of ammo with them, that might be a niche for it. No pistol caliber reaches velocities needed for rifle like terminal ballistics (~2300fps).
Bruh, it malfunctioned in the video. It hasnt even had 5 minutes of screentime and it already malfunctioned. "Ruger is more reliable, except when it's not". As far as effectiveness, there is unfortunately a real-world example of a man going on a killing spree using an FN five-seven. Every single person that was hit center mass succumbed to the injury. Every one of them. The only survivors where people hit in the extremities. Look up the man who shot up Fort Hood to see what I mean. Also, quit trying to compare rifle ballistics to pistols. "9mm out of a PCC is more effective, so whats the point of a 9mm handgun?" See how stupid that sounds?
The biggest difference between the two is the Five Seven is a milspec weapon deployed all over the world were as the Ruger is a cheap toy that falls apart under normal usage.
The safety being on the other side of the room, takes out the ,"I reached to take safety off and instead pulled the trigger " lol jk I'm done with internet today
Good morning I my rugger 57 and I am new to this cartridge. Is it normal for the casings rim to get bent inward quite a bit after extraction? I'd say about 1/3 to 1/2 of diameter inward. I am not used to seeing this out of 9mm or 45.
Either that, or they just have to duck ride the ruger or else all these broke boys in the comments would bond together to try to prove that the Ruger or PSA is better than the Five Seven
Im up in the great white north of Alberta Canada, and the gun laws are stupid ridiculous now. But anyways, I had the opportunity to use the FN and the ruger. Aside from the FN having a SLIGHTLY better trigger, the ruger was by far the superior gun. I resolved the issue with an aftermarket trigger job that has post and pre travel adjustments, its absolutely beautiful now. As for the cost, the FN was $2400, the ruger was only $900. Clear choice on that aspect. I could but two rugers and probably 500 rounds of ammo for the price of just the FN.
The only problem I’ve had with the ruger 57 is with the mags when fully loaded the bullets stay to far in the mag. that even when racking they fail but I’ve never had a failure under 17 rounds. I was reading about palmetto states new rock 5.7s 23 round magazines work in the ruger but not the other way around. I was wondering if this would solve my mag problem.
I had the same problem it’s the feed angle when you load past 17 I have the Pro Model did it until I found out look up the RUclips video where guy uses Teflon tape to fix the feed angle will try to post link
I swear the preference is all on you as the shooter. If you prefer the ruger I would say you already went into it wanting to like it better than the fn for your own choices. I have 1911 experience but I don’t see an issue with the fn safety. It works well with a thumbs forward grip. The ruger is not better in my opinion but maybe the Psa rock will be.
It's not often I'd say this but if you're going to pay for the price of 5.7, why are you cheaping out and buying a knockoff 5.7 instead of paying a few hundred more for the real FN 5.7? You shouldn't care what other people think of your guns and all but noones ever been excited to see a Ruger57 at the range, but oh how they'll fawn over an FN. Cool points are worth the extra money to get the real deal.
In my opinion, they both look great, just in different ways. The FN is like a Lamborghini Countach- designed almost 30 years ago but still looks futuristic. Ruger is like a muscle car- classic, traditional, and timeless. Both are sexy in different ways.
Yeah but the ruger performance is like a Lamborghini and the FN performs like and old muscle car. I own both and this is just my opinion.
@@KingOdie520 not to mention the price. I got my Ruger 57 brand new for $680. Cheapest I found the FN was $1200. My only gripe about the Ruger is it does not come cerakoted.
@@jeffhaire1984 yeah but with the money you save you can get it cerakoted any color you want. I paid $535 for mine brand new that was 2 years ago when the were new
@@jeffhaire1984 my father in law got a steal on an fn 800 even still I only paid 720 for my ruger
@@carmelogarcia4864 I just paid a bit over $800 for my Five Seven. It was used, and about a decade old, but I didn't mind, and it looked clean and only very slightly used.
I am team FN all the way. That said, I am thrilled that Ruger finally jumped in the 5.7 arena. I hope many more follow and cause such a demand for 5.7x28 that more manufacturers will start to produce it and drive the cost down. That way we have more of a choice than FN brand, or FN brand reloaded by Federal.
Did you guys see the new fn 5.7? It’s pretty cool. Optics ready. Better ergos. I like it
Ruger 5.7 been around for awhile
Now close to 10 years
@@shmikezones2620 It came out in 2019…
I would get a Ruger 57 in a heartbeat if the daggone ammo wasn't so expensive...and hard to find. Good luck finding Speer Gold dot in 5.7mm
Same. Just bought a Five-seveN and haven't fired it yet.. but I like the guns. Haven't owned many pistols until recently, so the safety placement being different doesn't bother me. I can see how it would be annoying to someone like a tactical shooter or someone who has spent years training in with a more common safety position. And they are super lightweight, which is pleasant. They are light, and mostly polymer, but they aren't cheap. The parts that need to be metal are metal. FN knows how to make guns.
The only major downsides (actual ones, not opinions, like the aesthetics or the feel) are the price of the gun/ammo, and the lack of customization options, and then there are some small things I don't think would be a dealbreaker for many people.
That being said, I feel like I'd have to recommend the Ruger to people. Seems like the better buy, from an unbiased standpoint. It's just gonna be more familiar, and cheaper. It's got some out of the box features that give it a bit of an advantage to the FsN. But I'd tell them I like the FsN more. I like the way it works for me, and I'm a big fan of FN, and it's a fun gun for me to shoot, and it may find itself being carried in a vehicle or something like that.
It really blows my mind that this cartridge hasn't become more popular. Clearly, we need a few hundred more options for 9mm, as well as highly needed new cartridges such as the *30 INSANE CRAZY SUPER DUPER CARRY* .
I like .30SC. It's the capacity I wanted from 5.7 but more energy
@@MaaveMaave It's not more energy than real 5.7x28 ammo.
The ammo in my nightstand gun makes ~400 ft/lbs in a handgun.
It’s not popular because most people can’t afford 5.7 lmfaaaao
@@Rooooogboi I think the OP was being sarcastic.
Got the Ruger 57. Wanted the FN but when I picked it up to hold many years ago, didn't fit well in my hand. Years later, Rugers 57 fits like a glove. Now I want to see how well the new FN 57 MRD will fit
Same!
Same
“Didn’t fit well in my hand” no bro u just realized it was too expensive and went for the cheaper option
@@Zetti_khareefastop lying to yourself lol, ur wallet didn’t agree with the price so u didn’t buy the real Five Seven. It’s ok to tell the truth lol
5.7 is my absolute favourite round for self defence.
High velocity, has stopping power and will tear up whatever target it hits, but not the person behind the target.
Isn't this round designed for penetration tho?
@@excervis yes and no, when you look at ballistic tests the 5.7x28 does a wonderful job both at focusing on a small diameter on first contact for penetration and then going bananas transferring energy to soft tissue both through cavitation and tumbling inside the body. I believe in 2009 in the Fort hood shooting by major Nidal Malik Hasan (using a FN five-seven), every shot placed on the torso above the belly button either killed the target instantly or incapacitated them on the spot for them to die in hospital within 2 weeks.
Yup, almost never over pens. Every gell test I have conducted shows this round dumps tons of energy at point of contact then goes no further than 12 inches. I have never seen a round exit the gel.
Noice
@@Painrunner everytime someone tells me I wasted my money on a .22 on steroids I always tell them if that’s the case what happen at fort hood?? Plus all my rounds are from Elite ammo so I laugh I had one person tell me at the range I’ll take them shots and still keep charging at you and beat u with ur own gun I kept laughing at the clown
A great review by two guys that have really helped me improve my shooting. I have the Ruger 57 and love it. As a lefty, the ambidextrous safety and having the mag release move to the right hand side was very handy. Low recoil, lightweight, and shoots great.
Just what I needed to know
I love the 5.7 round. I just bought the Ruger LC Carbine. Super accurate, even out to 300 yards. I was able to get 4-5 inch groupings from 300 yards standing up.
Own both the r57 and lc carbine and I got the same results. 5 inch groupings at 350 yards lol. So much fun bro
I actually like the plastic cover on the FN Five-seveN because it allows the slide to have less mass (and therefore inertia) while not having any holes cut in the slide for dirt and debris to get in.
The safety is up front on the FN because your trigger finger is meant to be out of the trigger guard and extended it will be touching the safety. Flick it off on your way into the trigger guard. Support hand thumb is counter intuitive because during the draw your finger should be on the frame touching it.
I thought it would be stupid, but after a few months of using it, I really like it a lot that way.
That's what I do! Aint a big deal at all! These are the only guys I know of who would pick the Ruger over the 5.7!
The Ruger jammed end of story.
They’re brokenness is blinding them so they ignore that
🎯💯
@@eatidedinanorteno8692 Ruger has better ergonomics, smaller, cheaper, better stock iron sights, more customization options, and has the same magazine capacity as the FN and you’re going to write it off because a malfunction that could’ve been any number of external factors? I think someone is just mad they overpaid for a 1st gen fn 5.7. Both guns are impressive firearms no doubt, but bias aside you’re just wrong.
So does every gun
@@causticcarnivore6914 FN is a classic Ruger is ugly and has no aura
I just picked up my FN Five Seven today - looking forward to trying it out this weekend the range. I'm not having any problems finding ammo for it (American Eagle and FN Herstal), although it is pricey. I certainly considered the Ruger, but I just prefer that old-school, classic 90s design of the FN. I thought the exact same thing as you guys, the first time I picked it up.. It felt like a toy. From the comparison videos I've seen, I think the Ruger tends to win out over the FN. I just prefer the looks of the FN - What can I say; I'm shallow.
Nope, just honest...
They each have their own area of expertise and advantages. I found that out after owning them. I lean towards the ruger because of the fact my edc is a 2011 10mm
10mm is awesome. Just bought my first weapon in the caliber. A cmmg banshee mk10. Love everything about the round out of the 8inch barrel. Don't think I would like it in a pistol. Already has a decent kick out of the cmmg. My edc is the ruger 57. Love the 5.7. Almost decided on cmmg's 5.7 in 12.5inch barrel but really wanted to try the 10mm and really enjoy it. It's a hard hitter, 5.7 with my lc carbine has almost zero recoil. Sometimes you need to feel a bit of kick lol
My long term use of the R57 has let some aspects float to the top that put the FSN ahead of it, IMO. At least until the Rock 57 from PSA comes out. The Ruger has slimmer magazines (metal), but there are quite a few instances of Ruger having to replace the magazines because they don't feed, or allow users to load to capacity. Magazine release mechanism was poorly designed, and sits too far forward. PSA went with a modified R57 magazine, but moved the release catch to the side of the mag, and enlarged and brought the button in a much better position. Ruger nitrides the barrel, but not the slide, and surface rusts very easily. Internal components just don't seem overbuilt (robust) as the FSN. I prefer the safety up front, but that's YMMV.
Yo Matt! I saw a 5.7 video and you popped in my mind :-D
The king of 22 Magnum!
I agree with a lot of the topical points people make about these two guns. The safety doesn't bother me personally and i actually prefer it because it is much more streamlined than the Ruger. Also when you tear these guns down to clean them and compare the quality its not close IMO. Not to mention the FN weighs less loaded than a glock 19 weighs empty.
Interesting, I always thought ruger had decent QC, at least they did back in the day a few years ago I would always recommend them as a good budget option. Sad to see that about the ruger 57 then. I’ll have to check out your channel, looks like you do a ton of ammo testing too, awesome! I’ve always been intrigued by the 5.7x28 I’ve wanted a ps90 forever I think that’s like one of my holy grail guns. Maybe some day I’ll get one yet. Maybe not the most practical gun in the world but it’s just such a cool design. That and I think the 5.7 is seriously underrated in the self defense world.
Sounds like the only problems are coming from the mags. I have a R57 I haven’t had any feed failures under 17 rounds. I do know the mags from PSA rock 57 will fit in the ruger I wonder if this will fix that problem.
Either English isn’t your first language, or you are trying way to hard to sound intelligent.
Ran across this just after taking several of my non-gun friends down to the local range. The FN has long been the initial gun I put in these novice hands for its weight, handling, lack of recoil and with a very good set of ear protection. I may not have converted anyone but I sure as hell didn’t chase them away. Great, great gun
I bought the Five-SeveN MK3 last year. It was a bit pricey but so was my PS90 which made me a believer in FN firearms. I’m glad that I didn’t get the Ruger or PSA. The MK3 comes ready to mount a red dot, light weight, and very accurate. Personally, it’s a huge improvement over the previous generation that I was looking at a couple years ago. Ammo was never a problem sourcing for my PS90 so I don’t know why that always comes up when discussing 5.7x28mm. I think some folks only go to Walmart and base availability on what they sale or just can’t afford it. I heard all the same stories about 10mm over the years.
I have the FN & I love it! What I don't love is how much the ammo cost! Even the plinking ammo is expensive! I put fluorescent paint on my sights & that improved visibility
I owned the Ruger 57 and got rid of it. I had so many issue with parts breaking and jams I just didn’t think it was a fire arm that I could depend my life on. FN all the way
When you gotta lie to justify paying double for an FN🤣
@@aSucidalPanda Yup hes lying my Ruger 57 pro is like a Tank
@@aSucidalPanda Lol, as the ruger malfunctions almost immediately. Was going to get one but I'll have to get the FN. Most american guns are trash. That's why I like HK, walther, and FN. Don't ever have to question wether my life depends on it with these guns.
@@aSucidalPanda my dad had 2 and sold them both years ago never had parts breaking but he said they would jam often 57 is my favorite gun but it’s gotta be fn
@@aSucidalPandabro your just lying to yourself and trying to cope cause u can’t afford an FN 💀💀 stop trying to gaslight this man cause you’re broke and coping
The fn 5.7 safety is supposed to be right where your trigger finger would set before you put ur finger on the trigger
From this day forward all fanboys on this channel will be referred to as Andy’s. We just had a guy rage quit our channel because Coch who owns both of these guns and Myles who has never shot either both kind of favored the Ruger over the FN 57. I’ve heard other channels talk about upsetting fanboys but wow.
I also own both of these guns. I don’t care about either one of them to have much of an opinion. But for you Andy’s out there here it is anyway. The FN is a boutique ahead of its time concept gun that has a very unique feel to it. The Ruger has more of a traditional feel to include ergonomics/ manual of arms. Which is all Coch was really saying. Myles being a guy who spends more free time and personal resources on shooting guns than anyone I’ve ever met, which is saying a lot. Probably initially preferred the Ruger due to the fact that it felt more familiar to him.
This video is not intended to be an in-depth review or analysis of these pistols. It was a snapshot opinion piece coming from a firearms subject matter expert who owns both pistols and a guy who was never shot either.
Oh and that goes for all you Andy‘s out there as well. You can refer to yourselves and each other as Andy’s. It’s not meant to be derogatory, it’s more of a badge of honor for this guy. Not that he will ever know because like I said he rage quit the channel.
In the first 3 minutes, you pointed out why I traded in FN for Ruger. Feel, safety position, and price. Then about 6 months later I found the 57 Carbine. Both are so easy to shoot that anyone in my home can use it. Highly recommend these two firearms and of course an M1A, my first gun.
I had both and now i only own the ruger. I change the trigger to a tandemkross and is such a great shooter now, ruger is also better balance for follow up shots.
Not sure I would give the edge to the firearm that jams on camera. Yes, I have a dog on the fight since I have an FN. It has never jammed with FN mags and FN ammo. Yes, you are correct there is an expense involved with the FN, but if you need to depend on a firearm that will function without any jams or misfires then it is best to spend the extra cash.
They’re too cheap to understand
I bought the FN because in KALIFORNAE, it's the only 5.7x28 that we are ALLOWED to have! Still, if I could've TRIED one of the other two, I think that I would've went with the FN anyway. I have big hands, and it feels SOOooOOo good in them! Ammo was not as expensive as I thought, and there seems to be a LOT of it here. I HATE the 10-rounders but there's not much I can do about that (for the time being) but in any case, the gun was accurate out of the box!! Recoil was next to nothing, the point was easy, the sights (tritium) were spot on, the mags dropped freely from the well, and even with a full one, the gun is incredibly light!!!The trigger is wide, which I like very much. Out the door, I paid $1,374 (thank you, Midway USA). It arrived at my local gun store about four days later, went down, DROS'ed it up, waited my 10 days (grrrr) picked her up and brought her home! I love her! I made a good choice! ❤
Elite Ammunition is the way to go in 5.7mm. It is MUCH hotter ammunition, and could be considered 5.7mm+P.
Elite T6B from a handgun is 2300fps/350+ fpe energy.
I picked a Ruger 57 after it came out I love the gun and also agree with everything you both said... By the way, I DID NOT buy the FN because of the awkward safety position... Great review of these guns and of this expensive but awesome round...
I thought it was weird too, but I figured I would just get used to it and Ill be damned if that isnt what happened. I actually really like it now. Keeping the finger off the trigger then sweeping down the safety while getting to the trigger is super convenient. Then when you take your finger off the trigger you feel the safety and you are like "oh yeah, time to re-engage the safety".
fn has high point looks to it. I like ruger 57
@@GunsNGames248 The Ruger has Hi-Point internals, cheaply made barrel, no trigger drop safety, so can't carry with one in the pipe. The magazines are worse than Promag. I would do some research first. Recalls etc. No military or government agency carries it. At least the drug cartels and Secret Service carry the FN (LOL)
U didn’t buy the FN cause Of the price lol
With the ruger, sink your grip more to the back and I actually have to shoot from almost 25yds to be consistent because of the ballistics. There's quite a difference from the 40gr American eagle ammunition to the 27gr FN ammo. There's hardly any recoil and it's super expensive but fun to shoot. I take mine coyote hunting for close range kill shots
I finally got my hands on some 27 grain and holy moly, you are right. The point of impact at 15 yards with the 27 grain is almost 7 inches higher than the 40 grain. While it is expensive, I tried to look at it in another perspective and that helped me feel better about blasting a hundred rounds at a time;
As of now, 5.7X28 is about $0.96/rd where I live. 44mag is $2.20/rd, .357 is $0.84/rd, .45 auto is $0.72/rd, .380 auto is $0.60/rd, 5.56 is $0.80/rd, and .308 is $2-4/rd.
It is considerably more expensive than 9mm, but not really what I would consider "prohibitively expensive". Sometimes it is cheaper than .223 and people blast that stuff 500rds at a time. Hopefully the change in perspective will ease the pain of shooting a box of 5.7x28
Of course I wish it were cheaper, but I think the biggest problem with it is the availability, or the lack thereof.
@@UncleDon226 it's a so much fun to shoot. I hit steel at 60 yards about a month ago. I love mine
Close shots on coyotes with a 5.7? Now that's an interesting idea.
Great job! Thanks for the comparison. I have the FN and always wanted to see a comparison. You confirmed my suspicion that the Ruger has the advantage as a stock gun. I had some of the same issues with the FN so I added an RMR kit from FN Specialties and a replacement short trigger from Elite Ammunition. Gun is accurate and doesn't fell as wide with the short trigger. The 5.7 round is a joy to shoot. Much fun for Coyote and other varmints. Unfortunately, there are very limited choices for FN holsters and mag holders. But with 30 round mags you may only need 1 mag holder.
Blackhawk makes both holsters and extra mag holders for single & double configuration.
The fn 57 is a great gun but it definitely feels bulky to the hand haven’t tried the Ruger 57 but I’m picking one up soon
People who attack the FN and praise the Ruger come off as coping so hard in the comment section, which is odd since FN owners (generally) dont belittle Ruger owners. I have never seen anyone say "I chose the Ruger because it was half the cost." At least be honest. The FN is remarkably expensive and there is absolutely no shame in choosing the Ruger due to budget limitations. I am happy if you did get it because of financial restrictions because that at least tells me you are financially responsible enough to not break the bank and still get a 5.7x28. But when people start saying things like "I chose the Ruger because the FN feels like a toy", we all know what you really mean is "I wanted the FN, but couldnt afford it and now I am defensive about it."
I have the ruger but I really miss my fn 😔
If anything you sound like you're coping hard to rationalize your purchase 😂 💀
I owned a FN for years as I love the caliber and for a while it was the only option. The fn is a first gen 5.7 pistol that is 30 years old at this point. They are ok for what they are but to buy one nowadays knowing they don't come optic ready, are known for terrible stock triggers, basic tier sights, and low capacity compared to literally every other option not to mention ZERO aftermarket support means you're paying for brand loyalty and that is it. You shouldn't have to drop hundreds of dollars into a brand new 1500 pistol just to modernize it so it has features that come stock on even the cheapest pot metal HiPoints these days.
Having owned both as well as a PSA rock I have to say I sold my fn because everything about that gun is proprietary and fn aren't exactly actively supporting any aftermarket parts or modding so you are stuck with it as is which is unacceptable for the price tag imo.
@@davidabest7195Terrible stock triggers? Those come with personal preference and training. Low capacity? 20 rounds is a very large amount of ammunition for a pistol. Why is basic tier sights a bad thing? Zero aftermarket support? What? You can find threaded barrels and other things online.
Yeah the price is absurd but I like the looks of it and if someone wants to pay for that, let them. Stop being elitists, it’s repulsive.
Almost purchased an fn rifle in 5.7, a few years back at a gun show. I have never fired one but recently purchased the Ruger 57. I like the ergonomics of the weapon, but have not been to the range yet...I recently purchased the Kimber Target II IN.45acp with 6" barrel in stainless.
So money doesn't come into it at all...
Exactly my brother. I went to the gun store and asked for a FN Five Seven and the owner took out the original FN Five Seven it was at $899.99 and took out the Ruger 5.7 and I bought the Ruger with taxes @ $726.79. I can imagine how much the FN would've came out too. Maybe like 950ish or a lil more with taxes. Don't be offensive bro. Keep it cool you'll be fine. But I did hear that the Ruger is better for the price. Yeah the rounds are expensive $1 a round so I bought a box of 50 for $50 but I'm going to buy more
FNs cold hammer forged barrel and chrome lining is worth it over the ruger all day long.
Those cheapos don’t look at things like that 😂 all they care about is a cheap gun
Ruger is the way I would go for sure if I was into 5.7.
Yeah if ur cheap lol
I ccw the fn. Ill take the zero malfunctions over the ruger. The safety is something you have to train for or you can leave it off since its technically a half cocked double action.
Everybody that makes a video about the 5.7 x 28 all says the same thing. The ammo is expensive and hard to get. I don’t know what they’re talking about because you go to any place in my city and you can get 5.7 x 28 ammo very easy for 30 bucks a box
This video was put out over 2 years ago so I imagine 2 years ago it was much harder to find, then it is nowadays for said 5.7 ammo lol
As far as I've heard no "official" agency has to date endorsed purchase of the Ruger (open to correction), whereas the FN Five seveN has had multiple "official" users, across the world.
As to optics the new FN Five seveN Mk3, MRD comes predrilled for an optic, and FN even give a list of approved examples.
The comment about the safety isn't even worthy of a comment.
The Ruger is comparatively new to the market and hasn't even been put through any official trials that I'm aware of. The FN has seen numerous recalls, revisions and updates over the years. Let's be honest, the early FNs had serious issues and it was still adopted, any issues the Ruger has can be dealt with as well.
@@harrypeterson9287there’s been weapons that were relatively new and accepted into usage for military / LE all over the world 😂😂 stop making excuses bro the Ruger is cheap garbage and that’s why only budget shooters use it
I would like to add one more thing, this gun would be very easy to carry, it is extremely lightweight and handles nicely. It might feel like a toy, but I think that’s a very good thing it’s lightweight and fits in your hand good it has almost no recoil. Compare that to high recoiling 9 mm pistols, I think it’s a no-brainer
ruger got recalled,fn made this to start and they are made in the USA to,psa just came out with theirs and sell out right away plus their holds 23 rds,there are others that make small AR style in this caliber.
Lmao. Ruger had A recall. It was for a small lot. It does not represent the R57 at all. FN has had recalls too. It's called machinery breaks down on assembly lines and can cause qc issues. Not uncommon. A small lot was recalled. Not because of any design flaw but a manufacturing one.
FN for longevity ...proven fire arm
Train past the safety position
When it's forever and not just a day at the range.
I just got 2 brand new mark 2 five sevens. One has tritium night sights. Paid 650 and 700 for them respectively. Know it’s not the norm but I got a killer deal one in fde and black and one in full black. Would still love to own the new smith and Wesson m&p 5.7 though, thing looks nice
“Don’t like the safety” “feels like a toy” 😂 FN all the way - did Ruger sponsor this video? 😂🤣🤣 “video games”….reputation destruction…give us a break
Failure to cycle and the Ruger uses way cheaper parts, especially compared to the FN barrel. The weight matters to me and the safety is too bulky on the Ruger. If I hadn't bought the 5.7 I would consider the Ruger for the price. That being said pretending the Ruger is in the same league as the FN is disservice to anyone trying to make a decision between to the two if cost isnt the primary decision when comparing these two guns.
Yes I own both , I was little hesitant because I already had the FN. But couldn't pass up trying the ruger for price and watching all the videos saying it was killing the FN.But after shooting the ruger and having mag problems I realized these u tube guys were lying . I do lie the ruger safety and sights plus red dot ready. But safety on the FN just makes since that's all that matters not hat you are use to. FN is just a way better gun I never sell a gun but the ruger is always in the shoot to get traded.
nothing is wrong with thr ruger at all
@CHEVY COLE as long as a gun fires and shoot straight who cares about the name. Ruger and fn are great companies
@@anthonymckay9404 welp I never had a single mag problem. Does that make me a liar because you seem to personally have issues with a mag that doesn't have a single issue with it?
@@GunsNGames248ruger is cheap garbage. Get over it
The Ruger has a lot of flaws. But.. not many know it's modular. And I converted mine into a MP-57. And in that format it's badass now with a brace.
Post it pls
@@tb5856 I have it posted here in a few quick videos I made for buds on my channel. Click me and look for the MP-57 stuff or search for MP-57 in the search area and find me that way. I have it setup basically the same still but now have a small Romeo Zero red dot on it instead of the Romeo 4 in videos. It is my fave small PDW bag gun. Which says alot since I own some like a MPX and MCX Canebrake and Rattler both in 300. Anyways you'll like it, if you can find one anymore that is👍
@@hughgrection3052 I'm thinking about selling my Ruger & buying the Mark 3.
cool video guys thanks for making and sharing
Sold my ruger to get the fn, the mags simply are better. Ruger's mags rusted very easily, just sitting in my house. Both are awesome guns, but as a carry gun, fn won out for me in the end
lol never had a rusting problem and you sold it hell naw I don't sell guns I will just buy another one
Never had a problem with my mags rusting. They are mostly rust proof because of the coating.
May have humidity problem in home, would maybe look into that, I actually had the same problem different fire arm
I love my FN 57 Gen2. I'm getting the FN 57 Gen3
I love Ruger so glad they came out with this so! Way more afforable than the FN AND BETTER GRIP. Rugers been around for generations and the wear and tear is always gonna be dependable from ruger in my opinion!
I love my Ruger 5.7, and they have a rifle now that uses the same mags. Looking for one now.
You will soon have to get the new Rock from PSA and do this comparison all over again. I have the Ruger. It is a great firearm. Just wish the ammo was more widely available and less costly.
The Ruger isn’t great bro you’re just coming up with excuses because it’s a cheap garbage firearm that u own.
@@Rooooogboi you think $850 is cheap? They run great. I doubt you have even touched one.
Own both and so far definitely a ruger fan but both are great
That ruger is my next purchase love it
I've never seen ss197sr shoot faster than 1700fps from the FiveSeven, and never more than 1800fps from the Ruger 57. I've been wanting to try the PSA Rock... but haven't got my hands on one yet.
I got the Ruger for my wife, and honestlyvenjoy shooting it better than the FN. It has a much more natural grip angle, lower barrel axis, and sights are awesome. The only thing I don't like about it, is the limitations for optics. If you get anything just a gram too heavy, and you'll run into cycling issues. FYI to anyone buying the Ruger... every single one I've seen, shoots low right outta the box.
I brought mine my FN yesterday, guy walks up and like OMG this guns at a stupid price (new)999.00
He goes get this it doesn’t jam, the Ruger was next to it, I reach for it and he said no get this one(FN) it doesn’t jam. Then I watch this video and the Ruger jams.
Thank you for not editing that out of the video.
Why buy a potential and known paper weight?
It’s like buying a .380 in the 90’s. Not that I’m that old. 😂😂😂😂
FN for me. I have the new MK3 MRD FDE
i bought my FN 57 more than 10 years ago now and it was still 1,100$ back then.
I appreciate the Ruger commercial; but the FN is no toy in the right hands. FN stands for quality and reliability. Ruger makes excellent weapons. I am fortunate to own more Rugers than FNs as my pocketbook empties quickly on the FN side of the equation. You should not buy the FN unless you can afford the P90 too. The 5.7 round is a great John Wick to the head and neck round. Having been in law enforcement for twenty years more than that time ago, I do not shoot center of mass. I shoot the head, neck, and legs. I will defeat body armor. The cops today that empty their magazines should be fired. Always charge the peril, assess while doing, address and attract the objectives attention by engaging him or her with verbal acuity, while taking control of the threat(s’) environment. Time is critical and lives depend on you. Those cops in TX need to resign. Kids died while they did nothing. If you are afraid, then find another job. What a disgrace. The review was fine and I enjoy your videos; but it seems to me you were negative before the camera turned on. Good gravy - I do not mean to give advice to two guys way more knowledgeable than I; but since it was a new round for both of you …, maybe start at five or seven yard range first before imputing your skill level abilities onto the unknown. I still enjoyed your efforts.
FN-57 for me, Thanks for doing the video.
5.7x28 is a very good and best pistol. If this bore is made in clash design, I say with full confidence that it will be in demand not only in the world, but in Pakistan. It is that people are buying their local and not foreign ones. Patak is very good. It should be designed in Kalashan but should be made in every assault rifle. People will also get this bore in their favorite gun. The company will also do good business.
Fun to shoot, low recoil, high capacity. The ruger is more reliable across more ammo if the mags work, finish is weak. Overall the round doesn't make much sense, especially in a short pistol barrel. Even the 'most potent' variants of 5.7x28mm ammo that civilians can't buy was not able to penetrate the older russian armour P90. There is a 'Nato PDW trials' test together with the MP7 and it's ammo, both didn't do the job they were meant for. With pistols it's less velocity and velocity is what they need. If one is hiking a lot and wants to take lots of ammo with them, that might be a niche for it. No pistol caliber reaches velocities needed for rifle like terminal ballistics (~2300fps).
Bruh, it malfunctioned in the video. It hasnt even had 5 minutes of screentime and it already malfunctioned. "Ruger is more reliable, except when it's not". As far as effectiveness, there is unfortunately a real-world example of a man going on a killing spree using an FN five-seven. Every single person that was hit center mass succumbed to the injury. Every one of them. The only survivors where people hit in the extremities. Look up the man who shot up Fort Hood to see what I mean.
Also, quit trying to compare rifle ballistics to pistols. "9mm out of a PCC is more effective, so whats the point of a 9mm handgun?" See how stupid that sounds?
Awesome video
Getting excited about this 5.7 round!!👍👍
I saw that S&W made a 5.7 also,
It’s exciting to see more brands
Jumping on this round 👍
The biggest difference between the two is the Five Seven is a milspec weapon deployed all over the world were as the Ruger is a cheap toy that falls apart under normal usage.
They’re too cheap to realize that
@@chillvibesxxx7090no buddy it’s just the truth. Stop trying to project and come up with excuses when faced with the truth 😂
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Is the knock down power good on the 5.7 I’m curious never shot one?
The safety being on the other side of the room, takes out the ,"I reached to take safety off and instead pulled the trigger " lol jk I'm done with internet today
PSA is about to put one out.
Review the mew S&W 5.7 Pistol please and the Black Fang Ammo.
"Not really a gun you're going to carry" lmao
5:58 slight edge to the gun that jams..lol..I'll stick with my FN 55 round mag!!💯🤷🏿♂️
I jus picked up the ps90 today but I have the ruger 57 to
this Video was taken 3months ago. Why are y’all shooting a 1st Gen instead of the MKII 2nd Gen FN ?
Good morning I my rugger 57 and I am new to this cartridge. Is it normal for the casings rim to get bent inward quite a bit after extraction? I'd say about 1/3 to 1/2 of diameter inward. I am not used to seeing this out of 9mm or 45.
These two praise the Ruger because they got paid to promote the Ruger 57
Nope. We don’t
Either that, or they just have to duck ride the ruger or else all these broke boys in the comments would bond together to try to prove that the Ruger or PSA is better than the Five Seven
Pretty sure you can mount optics on the ruger as well
I think fn should come out with a Mac 10ish sub gun in 5.7 I would definitely get one! Think tp9/ Mp7 in 5.7
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Great job. I have and love the 57.
FN is costly 💰
Im up in the great white north of Alberta Canada, and the gun laws are stupid ridiculous now. But anyways, I had the opportunity to use the FN and the ruger. Aside from the FN having a SLIGHTLY better trigger, the ruger was by far the superior gun. I resolved the issue with an aftermarket trigger job that has post and pre travel adjustments, its absolutely beautiful now. As for the cost, the FN was $2400, the ruger was only $900. Clear choice on that aspect. I could but two rugers and probably 500 rounds of ammo for the price of just the FN.
Answer to ridiculous magazine capacity laws = belt feed.
I prefer the ergonomics of the R57, but the locked breech mechanism of the FsN.
I went with the Ruger 57 over the FN 5.7 because it looked better, was optic ready, and felt better. The FN looks like a highpoint imo
It looks nothing like a HP..... you need to have your eyes examined
@@yotgguitar I have both and everyone that seen it agrees. The FN 5.7 is an ugly firearm
Ugly is subjective, but at least you are honest about it.
The FN favors a 1911, not no dam HI Point! 😄
@@lordmalice8368 the FN looks absolutely nothing like a 1911. You must be sorely confused as to what a 1911 looks like lmfao.
Would like to have both …period !
I have the ruger 57 and have problems shoots great to me
😂 “but I evolved…”
The only problem I’ve had with the ruger 57 is with the mags when fully loaded the bullets stay to far in the mag. that even when racking they fail but I’ve never had a failure under 17 rounds. I was reading about palmetto states new rock 5.7s 23 round magazines work in the ruger but not the other way around. I was wondering if this would solve my mag problem.
I load 19 in mine
I had the same problem it’s the feed angle when you load past 17 I have the Pro Model did it until I found out look up the RUclips video where guy uses Teflon tape to fix the feed angle will try to post link
Dose the new one have a magazine disconnect like the old FN57?
Goodness CA and WA are only 10 rounds now
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Ruger 5.7🏆
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The FN is made in the US too
Hope they come out with a compact Version
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Needs to be a micro mouse pocket pistol!❤️
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It looks like the Ruger let's you get a higher grip too which is a huge bonus
Excuses bro, ur just trying to come up with little bs justifications to make u feel better about buying the cheap garbage Ruger
Everybody in these comments hyping up the Ruger are purely because they can’t afford the Five Seven 😂
Such a hot round🚀
Just watching it shoot, the lack of recoil is crazy looking. It barely looks like it's being fired
from my experience the FN tends to register higher than the sights.
Just picked up one today, the rugar. I get it tomorrow or Friday. 499 brand new!! Ammo thonis 33$!! Yikes
I swear the preference is all on you as the shooter. If you prefer the ruger I would say you already went into it wanting to like it better than the fn for your own choices. I have 1911 experience but I don’t see an issue with the fn safety. It works well with a thumbs forward grip. The ruger is not better in my opinion but maybe the Psa rock will be.
I like how ruger feels. But after hearing their comments I regards to abolishing the ATF... sorry I’ll go the expensive route.
Got the ruger 5.7 2 days ago 😅😅
I hate the sights, I hate the feel, I hate the polymer coating, I hate the trigger, I hate the safety... Slight edge to the Ruger!
Bro you’re just too broke to afford the FN so u come up with bs to justify buying that cheap trash ass ruger 😂
It's not often I'd say this but if you're going to pay for the price of 5.7, why are you cheaping out and buying a knockoff 5.7 instead of paying a few hundred more for the real FN 5.7? You shouldn't care what other people think of your guns and all but noones ever been excited to see a Ruger57 at the range, but oh how they'll fawn over an FN. Cool points are worth the extra money to get the real deal.
So you buy guns for cool points? 🤡
OK looks like we have another one. Ambidextrous does not have an AA at the end it’s not IOUS