Having the Micro-Air EasyStart installed on the outside condensing unit is expensive, but it's worth every penny. It opens up more choice of backup power options. I installed one for my colleague 4 ton A/C just shy of 36 hours before hurricane Ian's outer bands decided to blow through town. Fortunately there was enough time to get the normal learning process done without a hitch along with installing a generator inlet box and main panel interlock. He lost power about 3 hours in when the winds picked up and had everything on generator power in 20 minutes when it was safe to do so and rode through the storm on a full tank of pump gas in ESC mode. I can definitely say that it's no picnic having a party of 8 hunkering down without A/C.
Gavin, you had mentioned in the beginning of the video the Honda, Powerhorse and Yamaha all have 5500 running watts, however the Powerhorse inverter generator actually has 6500 running watts with the 7500 starting watts. I had just purchased a Powerhorse which is the reason why your comment caught my attention. I'm sure with all the equipment you are working with and making videos it's hard to keep some of the details straight. Just wanted to make a correction for the viewers. Really appreciate all you do in educating the masses who, like me, need help. Thank you brother!
You really listen to people in your page! We were waiting to see this generator and you did not disappoint us! It is a very good generator, as good as a Honda EU7000is. Only things missing that Honda has: fuel injection, recoil start and a better display unit.👍👍👍I was getting one of those and the only thing that steer me away was those three missing things. I bought another Honda.
@@shanew7361 Thing is That Yamaha has done nothing to this generator in many years. Price? the closest competitor in quality is the Honda EU7000is and is only about $200-$400 more, which is not bad.
@@shanew7361 That's what I did. After having An EU7000is during Hurricane Maria running constantly for about 4 months I have nothing but respect for the Brand. Before I had a Yamaha that lasted me almost 20 years but the deal breaker were the extra features the Honda has. The Yamaha generator died but I still have the engine getting used on other projects.
Hi gavin im an industrial electrician. Another thing you can do to cut down start up load is add a 10 second timer relay on the condensor fan. The compressor wil start the 10 seconds later the fan will start. I did this on the condensor and evap fans on mine. It cuts down a lot of stress on the generator.
Awesome video as always Gavin. Any chance of doing anymore tests with the predator inverters . When are you gonna start selling Gavin Garage tee shirts😁. I was completely amazed at how quite that generator actually is
It seems something else was running on leg 2 while the generator test was happening otherwise the wattage and current would have been more balanced. This happened in your initial Honda test as well before you had to redo it. For the most repeatable testing scenario, I'd recommend turning all breakers off except the air handler and the condensing unit since you never know when a refrigerator or freezer could kick in during testing. Glad you're doing these tests though. Keep it up!
Hey buddy Yes, I’m trying to keep it more real world meaning how someone would do it if they were running the AC, the ceiling fan, hallway lights, kitchen lights, the bedroom ceiling fan so I try to keep around 500W plus the AC
It could be his air handler blower fan cycling off about 1 minute after the 5-ton A/C. That’s typically how they operate with a delayed shutdown. Also the air handler is definitely only 120v so that would explain why it’s only showing on leg 2 at around 800-900w.
@@binhsterbinh that's a weird thing i only see with us air conditioners. Why do they use 2 phase or single phase. I have 3 , 6ton panasonic vrf units and all of them are 3 phase power & the indoor casette units are single phase but i have divided them properly so nearly all of the time the air conditioning system and ventilation system has same amount of current draw on each 240v leg . Or 415v across legs. The only issue is they don't make any portable 3 phase gen. & So in my new home i am will buy a 3 ph cummins 15kva diesel. With installation that would total at almost 5000$ . One advantage of a 1400rpm diesel is they are dead silent.
I have the Yamaha 6300 like this that l purchased used from a couple back in 2016 and still using it to power my house when without power and camper sometimes when boondocking.Can l use it to power my 50amp camper using the 120/240 outlet. I have a twist lock adapter that goes to 50amp. I was always told l couldn't used it cause it would fry my components in my camper and to use the 30amp twist lock outlet only.
Gavin were you running anything else in the house on that genny with HVAC? And do you think if you were running NG on that Yamaha it would had worked? How is the Micro-Air EasyStart holding up? I have a a Carrier 5 ton and looking hard at this because I'm tired of the power outages in Houston. Another great video keep up the good work.
I was running the refrigerator and one ceiling fan plus the HVAC 5 ton unit. I don’t think it would work with natural gas. Your best option is this one. ruclips.net/video/T363v4d0oeI/видео.htmlsi=3rwmTWOohUtsLwsT
Hey Gavin, just watched the 6300 Yamaha on gas starting your 5 ton AC. Impressive. Anyhow, I think I've settled on the SUA7600IED (Dual Fuel) from A-IPower. I have a 14 seer Carrier 2.5 Ton AC unit with the Microstart EasyStart attached. My starting amps now are @ 24-25 amps. Anyhow, I think I've settled on the A-IPower SUA7600IED. It has 7600 starting and 6100 running on gas and 6900 starting and 5500 running on propane. My main goal was to get a dual fuel unit and primarily use propane not wanting to deal with the gasoline part of it unless absolutely necessary. I was getting hung up more on the starting watts, not so much the in-rush amps which the Easy Start took care of. With that said and after seeing the Yamaha squeak by and since my AC unit is half the size of yours, do you think the specs on this A-IPower unit would be the way to go ? Thx again
Thanks for another great video. Would enjoy seeing you do tri-fuel conversions to the biggest inverter generators. I know that would result in some lower power, but people who have natural gas service could really benefit from long term usage without gasoline. In the marketplace I see a few tri-fuel generators sold, but they never seem to be inverter style.
@@GeneratorReviews I got the US Carb MSK7000 kit for my Honda EU7000is. It works great, but you do lose a little power. Also, they recommend iridium spark plugs when running on natural gas with a slightly smaller gap.
Can you explain or clarify an issue of how to understand generator power capability? If a generator is a 120/240v unit rated at say 6,000 running watts, what is the capability of each 120v output using the 120/240v 30 amp twist lock connection and going into a transfer switch? I understand that at 240v the generator is capable of 6,000 watts, but what about each 120v leg that is powering various/different 120v circuits. Is each 120v leg capable of 6,000 watts, or only 3,000 watts per 120v leg?
At 5:49 in the video (as your AC is starting) you can see the voltage on L1 drop to 85v. I wouldn't necessarily consider a brownout on one of your 120V legs to be starting the AC with no problems.
Impressive for that size of inverter generator. sadly have found out this unit is electric start only no recoil starter, and with how easily generator batteries go bad its now off my shopping list.
honestly, for the high price of the Yamaha, you could just buy the Honda EU7000is and pay about the same price. I would probably go for a dual fuel unit instead for much cheaper and higher output:)
Ok. I bought one anyway for my 50amp camper, and I am pretty sure that it will run my house a/c unit, and I did install a micro air easy start on my house a/c unit.
By the time you buy the generator permits, plumbing for natural gas, electrician, Hoa and concrete pad. you can’t get a permanent for less than &12k -$15k
@@GeneratorReviews I had a generac 16 k installed about 5 or 6 years ago for around $6500 to $7000 all in.lowes wanted around $10000 but a local guy how does generac generator did it for me.i live on the natural gas line so that helped
IMO, I just don't see it but I guess a lot of people do as this generator does sell. $5,000 for a generator that barely runs a home doesn't seem to me a good value when there are quality 9,000 watt products out there that are more capable for much less money. Say $2,100. As always Gavin thank you for the video as it was most entertaining.
May seem pricey but no many generators out there have the quality and durability these two brands have. One of my Honda ran almost constantly after hurricane Maria for 4 months straight. Yes, we were out of power for that long. About a month ago we got hit by hurricane Fiona luckily, this time were only a couple of days.
Having the Micro-Air EasyStart installed on the outside condensing unit is expensive, but it's worth every penny. It opens up more choice of backup power options.
I installed one for my colleague 4 ton A/C just shy of 36 hours before hurricane Ian's outer bands decided to blow through town. Fortunately there was enough time to get the normal learning process done without a hitch along with installing a generator inlet box and main panel interlock. He lost power about 3 hours in when the winds picked up and had everything on generator power in 20 minutes when it was safe to do so and rode through the storm on a full tank of pump gas in ESC mode. I can definitely say that it's no picnic having a party of 8 hunkering down without A/C.
Micro-Air easystart
Hi, Gavin! I'm really digging these "can it do it" videos. Thanks!
Thanks Tom👍🏾💯
Gavin, you had mentioned in the beginning of the video the Honda, Powerhorse and Yamaha all have 5500 running watts, however the Powerhorse inverter generator actually has 6500 running watts with the 7500 starting watts. I had just purchased a Powerhorse which is the reason why your comment caught my attention. I'm sure with all the equipment you are working with and making videos it's hard to keep some of the details straight. Just wanted to make a correction for the viewers. Really appreciate all you do in educating the masses who, like me, need help. Thank you brother!
😅yeah I missed that one but yes it is 6500👍🏾
Wow just amazing, didn’t think it was gonna turn it on. Great 👍 video buddy. Thanks for showing us all the results on the generator. 🙏
Next we’re going to do the Aims and Genmax 6000. I hope it doesn’t fail.
You really listen to people in your page! We were waiting to see this generator and you did not disappoint us! It is a very good generator, as good as a Honda EU7000is. Only things missing that Honda has: fuel injection, recoil start and a better display unit.👍👍👍I was getting one of those and the only thing that steer me away was those three missing things. I bought another Honda.
Thanks Jose
👍🏾👊🏾💯😎
That's a lot of extra coin for those features lol
@@shanew7361 Thing is That Yamaha has done nothing to this generator in many years. Price? the closest competitor in quality is the Honda EU7000is and is only about $200-$400 more, which is not bad.
@@jvazquez53 I'd agree I'd get the Honda then too.
@@shanew7361 That's what I did. After having An EU7000is during Hurricane Maria running constantly for about 4 months I have nothing but respect for the Brand. Before I had a Yamaha that lasted me almost 20 years but the deal breaker were the extra features the Honda has. The Yamaha generator died but I still have the engine getting used on other projects.
Hi gavin im an industrial electrician. Another thing you can do to cut down start up load is add a 10 second timer relay on the condensor fan. The compressor wil start the 10 seconds later the fan will start. I did this on the condensor and evap fans on mine. It cuts down a lot of stress on the generator.
That’s a great idea 💡
Nice video G'
That Yamaha took a hit from Tyson(Carrier) but stayed on it's wheels😂🤣
A Soft start unit is a must!!
Looks like a another winner🏆
Didn't think this would've worked. Thanks for trying Gavin.
I didn’t either!
Awesome video as always Gavin. Any chance of doing anymore tests with the predator inverters . When are you gonna start selling Gavin Garage tee shirts😁. I was completely amazed at how quite that generator actually is
ruclips.net/video/4rURDDQdBxw/видео.html
Thanks Chris
Which predator generators do you want to see? And yes I will be selling my T-shirts soon.
Could you do the 8750 predator inverter generator please , and I totally can’t wait for you to start selling your shirts
It seems something else was running on leg 2 while the generator test was happening otherwise the wattage and current would have been more balanced. This happened in your initial Honda test as well before you had to redo it. For the most repeatable testing scenario, I'd recommend turning all breakers off except the air handler and the condensing unit since you never know when a refrigerator or freezer could kick in during testing. Glad you're doing these tests though. Keep it up!
Hey buddy
Yes, I’m trying to keep it more real world meaning how someone would do it if they were running the AC, the ceiling fan, hallway lights, kitchen lights, the bedroom ceiling fan so I try to keep around 500W plus the AC
It could be his air handler blower fan cycling off about 1 minute after the 5-ton A/C. That’s typically how they operate with a delayed shutdown. Also the air handler is definitely only 120v so that would explain why it’s only showing on leg 2 at around 800-900w.
@@binhsterbinh that's a weird thing i only see with us air conditioners. Why do they use 2 phase or single phase. I have 3 , 6ton panasonic vrf units and all of them are 3 phase power & the indoor casette units are single phase but i have divided them properly so nearly all of the time the air conditioning system and ventilation system has same amount of current draw on each 240v leg . Or 415v across legs. The only issue is they don't make any portable 3 phase gen. & So in my new home i am will buy a 3 ph cummins 15kva diesel. With installation that would total at almost 5000$ . One advantage of a 1400rpm diesel is they are dead silent.
I have the Yamaha 6300 like this that l purchased used from a couple back in 2016 and still using it to power my house when without power and camper sometimes when boondocking.Can l use it to power my 50amp camper using the 120/240 outlet. I have a twist lock adapter that goes to 50amp. I was always told l couldn't used it cause it would fry my components in my camper and to use the 30amp twist lock outlet only.
Great video, very impressive "smaller generator".
Awesome 👏. Soft start is so worth it. Yamaha go above 6300W ?
I think Yamaha and Honda’s under rate their generators.
Great stuff 👍 thanks for sharing. ✌ GOD bless you Sir. 🇺🇲 GOD bless America 🇺🇲
Thanks 😊 👍🏾👌🏾💯
Gavin were you running anything else in the house on that genny with HVAC? And do you think if you were running NG on that Yamaha it would had worked? How is the Micro-Air EasyStart holding up? I have a a Carrier 5 ton and looking hard at this because I'm tired of the power outages in Houston.
Another great video keep up the good work.
I was running the refrigerator and one ceiling fan plus the HVAC 5 ton unit. I don’t think it would work with natural gas. Your best option is this one.
ruclips.net/video/T363v4d0oeI/видео.htmlsi=3rwmTWOohUtsLwsT
Love your video's, keep them coming. Maybe try connecting 3 big inverter generators together. Would love to see how they work together. Thxs
Hey Gavin, just watched the 6300 Yamaha on gas starting your 5 ton AC. Impressive. Anyhow, I think I've settled on the SUA7600IED (Dual Fuel) from A-IPower. I have a 14 seer Carrier 2.5 Ton AC unit with the Microstart EasyStart attached. My starting amps now are @ 24-25 amps. Anyhow, I think I've settled on the A-IPower SUA7600IED.
It has 7600 starting and 6100 running on gas and 6900 starting and 5500 running on propane. My main goal was to get a dual fuel unit and primarily use propane not wanting to deal with the gasoline part of it unless absolutely necessary. I was getting hung up more on the starting watts, not so much the in-rush amps which the Easy Start took care of. With that said and after seeing the Yamaha squeak by and since my AC unit is half the size of yours, do you think the specs on this A-IPower unit would be the way to go ? Thx again
I haven’t tested the 7600w but seems like a good generator, sounds like it could work for you.
Thanks for watching
Thx for reply. I was just on your site and you have the 7600 listed. Just fyi, when your click on same for specs, it lists the 4300 specs
Did you have Eco mode turned on? It would be interesting to compare the AC start with and without Eco mode.
Yes this test was with eco mode turn on as always.
The wheels need to be bigger which helps when moving in grass that is wet after hurricane.
I enjoy all your videos.
Thanks for watching. Thanks for subscribing.👊🏾👍🏾💯😎
Great video, very informative. Nice setup!
Thanks for another great video. Would enjoy seeing you do tri-fuel conversions to the biggest inverter generators. I know that would result in some lower power, but people who have natural gas service could really benefit from long term usage without gasoline. In the marketplace I see a few tri-fuel generators sold, but they never seem to be inverter style.
Yes they seems to always be modified sine wave generators
Yes I plan on converting one soon
Thanks for watching and subscribing 👍🏾💯
@@GeneratorReviews I got the US Carb MSK7000 kit for my Honda EU7000is. It works great, but you do lose a little power. Also, they recommend iridium spark plugs when running on natural gas with a slightly smaller gap.
Can you explain or clarify an issue of how to understand generator power capability? If a generator is a 120/240v unit rated at say 6,000 running watts, what is the capability of each 120v output using the 120/240v 30 amp twist lock connection and going into a transfer switch? I understand that at 240v the generator is capable of 6,000 watts, but what about each 120v leg that is powering various/different 120v circuits. Is each 120v leg capable of 6,000 watts, or only 3,000 watts per 120v leg?
You’ll be ok with the 30 amp, the 50amp is for paralleling and you’ll be able to put 12,500 W
@@GeneratorReviews Thanks...but that doesn't answer my question, using a 6,000 watt example. Trying to understand what each 120v leg will have.
@@spacecoastz4026 each leg will have 3000 W
At 5:49 in the video (as your AC is starting) you can see the voltage on L1 drop to 85v. I wouldn't necessarily consider a brownout on one of your 120V legs to be starting the AC with no problems.
Impressive for that size of inverter generator. sadly have found out this unit is electric start only no recoil starter, and with how easily generator batteries go bad its now off my shopping list.
honestly, for the high price of the Yamaha, you could just buy the Honda EU7000is and pay about the same price. I would probably go for a dual fuel unit instead for much cheaper and higher output:)
Can the genmax 6000 do the same? And how does the whole line 1, line 2 thing work?
I will do this test just waiting for summer time when it’s nice and hot
You have already done the genmax 9000 but are you going to do a review on it's little brother the genmax 6000?
I don’t know if it can pull off this test.
@@GeneratorReviews lol sorry i just ment like a review and compare since you are doing other 6000 watt generators :D
Your ac compressor runs on single phase or two phase?.
My AC system is split phase 240v
What generator would you buy this unit or a Honda 7000?
They are both great units, but the Honda has a little bit more upgraded tech like Bluetooth and fuel injection
Are you gonna test the genmax 7250 on the home a/c?
Yes, just waiting for the warmer weather so I can start the air conditioner
Ok. I bought one anyway for my 50amp camper, and I am pretty sure that it will run my house a/c unit, and I did install a micro air easy start on my house a/c unit.
Yea great generator but your almost approaching price point of generac permanent whole house generator.not quite I know but getting there
By the time you buy the generator permits, plumbing for natural gas, electrician, Hoa and concrete pad. you can’t get a permanent for less than &12k -$15k
@@GeneratorReviews I had a generac 16 k installed about 5 or 6 years ago for around $6500 to $7000 all in.lowes wanted around $10000 but a local guy how does generac generator did it for me.i live on the natural gas line so that helped
Interesting this Generator is Made in Japan while de Honda 7000 is Made in India and it cost around $6,000.
Great video as always, but as for cost and functions. Its hard to beat that Genmax line...
Yessir I agree 💯
@@GeneratorReviews Yes sir I now own 3 lol after watching your channel...
Gavins el wen 3800 es confiable?
Si! el wen 3800 es confiable. Trustworthy.👍🏾💯
@@GeneratorReviews muchas gracias saludos desde Puerto Rico
@@GeneratorReviews what!! 😮Spanish too. 😂. 👍
@@sae1964 Por que' no, amigo mio?
😁
What's the LRA on your 5 ton ac?
My LRA is 76 for this 5 ton ac
IMO, I just don't see it but I guess a lot of people do as this generator does sell. $5,000 for a generator that barely runs a home doesn't seem to me a good value when there are quality 9,000 watt products out there that are more capable for much less money. Say $2,100.
As always Gavin thank you for the video as it was most entertaining.
Hey RShivesy
You’re absolutely right you could buy almost 3 generators.
Impressive, but almost $5K (choke, choke, gag, gag)!!! Gavin, if I may ask, where approx. are you located? Thanks.
Yessir this and the Honda are pretty pricey but they are forever Gens
@@GeneratorReviews The reason I asked about your locale, is your yard looks like St. Augustine grass, as is mine (Florida).
@@davef.2811 hey Dave, everyone thinks I’m in Florida
Texas
May seem pricey but no many generators out there have the quality and durability these two brands have. One of my Honda ran almost constantly after hurricane Maria for 4 months straight. Yes, we were out of power for that long. About a month ago we got hit by hurricane Fiona luckily, this time were only a couple of days.
@@jvazquez53 ¡¡Cojones!! Demasiado.
Damn '$5,000 for this mini monster insane. Seems like a rip off.
do you have a facebook page?
Yes Gavin’s garage on facebook