I'm glad they left the possibility open for him to come back in later seasons. Ackles is such a good actor and I would love to see him in the show again
Definitely an excellent season, a big improvement over season 2. I like that giving the Boys a way to kill Homelander didn't make Homelander any less scary because while they gave the Boys these ways to potentially kill him they also made HL much less limited and more threatening in other ways.
@@nileshkumaraswamy2711 Not to mention, all these ways of "killing him" were almost as dangerous is Homelander himself. Sure, Soldier Boy was strong enough to compete with and potentially depowered him, but he's also a PTSD ridden blackout prone drug addict with (Until just before the ending) a complete inability to self reflect. Temp V gives cool powers, but we can also figure out waaaaay before the proper reveal that it has some serious health effects. Meanwhile all the while all the things that gave them the edge in season 2 are crumbling away. Maeve's allegiance, Homelander's need to be seen as heroic to be loved, even Ryan, all gone. It leaves them with only the rockiest bridges to cross to get to him, and means they actually have to be really damn smart to keep a step ahead of him.
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It was really interesting seeing Thor without Loki for the first time. Realizing how important their relationship was and now seeing how weird it is without Loki around. There is definitely a void there. This movie definitely had it’s highs and lows. My favorite bits were when Thor went full badass God of Thunder. Hopefully we see more of serious Thor because this comedic mid life crisis Thor is entertaining, but he doesn’t give chills like he does when he rains lightning down on his foes
The movie's ONLY highs were Christian Bale's performance and that black and white sequence, which was primarily elevated because of Bale's aforementioned acting. Other than that, the film was abhorrent.
I liked the second half of the film, yeah the first half wasn't so great but when the main plot kids kicks in though there were some funny jokes for me like the axe being jealous of mjolnir
I agree with the Natalie Portman bit. She didn’t really play the “awkward new hero” role that well and imo it would’ve been better if she had been a more serious character especially with her having cancer. My favorite part was the shadow realm fight tho. Also loved season 3 of the boys and I’m glad u do too
Idk. In my experience with people with cancer, they tend to act extra energetic or jokeybecause when you have cancer that kinda brings the mood down. Not to say that inherently all cancer patients act this way; it's just my personal experience, but to say the peppy positive attitude is uncharacteristic of a cancer patient is just wrong.
She should've been a very confident and capable thor. In the movie she seems like she doesn't know what she's doing, but she still uses mjolnir better that thor. It just doesn't make sense
I thought she was mostly good. I actually liked her energy. She seemed like she was being overly positive in order to cover up the cancer. She's sad but doing everything possible to hide it.
Season 3 was actually surprisingly good. Yes, I do think that some parts of the finale kinda fall short and weren't nearly as good as they could have been, but this season has a lot of good shit to offer and is an easy 9/10 for me
@@Briaaanz The big criticism most general audiences had with Ragnarok was that it was too funny. He toned it down in this movie because of that which really sucks.
@@Chris-ks4sw i think he did the opposite personally but maybe its because of how widely conflicting the tones were with janes cancer and gors character paired in a movie with this many jokes. There was no REALLY serious things to tackle in ragnarok by comparison.
@@phil4909 I might actually be wrong, I think it could also be that I was just laughing a lot less at some of the jokes and thought there were actually less jokes.
One things I didn't like is not really expressing how racist SB is. Like it clearly stayed by a few characters that he was a racist and horrible guy. But it never really backed up. We see him being mysogimsitc and homophobic but not racist. He even talks highly of Bill Cosby. I just wished they could of made him fit the 1930s vibe.
They’re 100% the humanity of the show. They’ve done horrible things but dream of a more idealistic future that they probably can’t have have. One of my favorite relationships in anything in quite some time.
"There's a really enjoyable movie here, under all the layers of Marvel formula they poured on" Hit the nail on the head. It was better than I thought it was going to be, and I didn't hate Natalie Portman; good things. *Everything* about this movie gets better in the finale/third act, which is unfortunate cuz I think this had the potential to be an easy top 10 in the MCU
It was the opposite for me. Not all the jokes landed, but I still liked a lot of the humour in the first half (including the screaming goats), and I felt like it was definitely still Taika Waititi's humour, and not just generic Marvel humour (I didn't enjoy the humour nearly as much in Infinity War and Endgame). And then in the end, I felt it reverted to a generic final battle with a big scary villain, who had a 'sympathetic' backstory crammed in at the beginning. But that's probably just difference in preference of humour. I like real stupid stuff like goats screaming every scene, and Zeus flipping a lightning bolt for thirty seconds straight. For context, it was an 8/10 for me.
@@prodigion1 Same here. Zeus flipping that Bolt around like an asshole had me in tears. And when the fighting started with the big bad villain and the huge intergalactic power and cringy dialogue with Jane I nearly fell asleep.
@@prodigion1 kinda feel the same way. I don't understand how someone can see the comedic bits as "generic marvel" when a lot of the humor is pretty typical Waiti absurdist stuff. The movie doesn't doesn't even try to hide it. Like has anyone saying this ever *seen* a Waiti film before? I guess I'm just confused how Marcus can clearly see and appreciate what a film like Doctor Strange is meant to be and largely accomplishes (kinda campy/silly and not taking itself *too* seriously) then just be so far off base on a movie like this that's literally doing the same thing in a different way. Imo this is the better movie of the two because it does sprinkle some genuinely heartfelt stuff around too.
@@prodigion1 It was the opposite opposite for me... just kidding the whole movie was just cringe to me. You could argue any movie could be an easy top 10 in the MCU (this is more directed at the original comment obviously) but I do still see what you guys mean. This movie had a ton of potential with an AMAZING first scene and villain overall. It just sucks how badly they ruined him later in the movie because of all of the jokes. There honestly should have been more of him in the first half of the movie and I feel like it would have been a better movie overall. Show him do literally anything other than kidnap a bunch of children to bait Thor into fighting him on his own territory like a little *****. Gorr should have been much more powerful and been easily able to beat Thor without having to resort to kidnapping. We were told earlier in the movie that he was killing tons of gods! Yet we weren't shown jack.
For me, I feel as if Thor: Love and Thunder needed to utilize showing and not telling for Gorr. I think it would've been nice and effective to see him kill gods.
Gorr shouldn't have been the villain for this movie, he deserved a higher rating and a *lot* more development His arc in the comics was amazing and Christian Bale could've been perfect for that role
Part of his intrigue was that we DIDNT see him do too much and we didn't know what he was capable of or what his powers were. I was happy to discover it and be frightened by him right there with Thor
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I was exactly the same as you: I had no sense of urgency to watch The Boys S3, but I was surprised by how many touching character moments they fit in. A great season.
I really felt Gorr was underused. I always had a feeling, based off of the cool things I've heard about him from the comics, what we got in this movie made me feel underwhelmed. Not because of the actor or his performance but of how much time was spent making jokes instead of making Gorr a more present character. I would've loved to feel fear and an overall feeling of uneasiness when he's being the God Butcher. My point is, it would've been cool to see him really killing Gods, showing their strength but are unmatched by Gorr. It's kinda hard to take him seriously when his only threat is that he stole a bunch of kids in which we all know aren't going to have a tragic end in a family friendly movie
I feel like Gorr should’ve gotten a 5 minute scene of him going sicko mode on Sif and and Falligar. That had more potential to motivate Thor than the trapped kids did, who never seemed like they were in any real danger.
Gorr deserved a better movie. His fantastic design and Christian Bale's over-the-top performance made what could be another lifeless space demon into one of the MCU's best villains, with so much stage presence. Again, I have mixed feelings on Thor 4 as a whole, but the scenes with Gorr carried the film
oh no i agree, it's criminal how they didn't used gorr more, i enjoy how they make him scary by making even zeus afraid of him, but maybe gorr going on a killing spree on gods in the city would be great to add to the threat
I think the Boys season 3 is the best thus far. So much happens in each episode. The characters are more fleshed out and interesting than their comic book counterparts. Can’t wait for season 4
This was a fluff season. Temp v makes no sense, just get a bunch of people to take it and kill homelander. It should have been more rare, like there was only a few in existence.
@@dasboom7133 I think the fact that it kills u is exactly the kind of thing that would nullify your complaint? Making it rare/making it unusable bc it kills you essentially scratches the same itch. And it’s a plot device that pushes the characters and the story in such a good direction that im surprised it bothered anyone. Just my opinion ofc
@@dasboom7133 the temp v is rare and is stored in Vaught headquarters. Also, Homelander could just run away from anyone using temp v and wait for the effects to wear off
@@justinbork2088 but hypothetically like all the boys could take it once and potentially outmatch home lander and be safe. It feels weird and just pops up and ultimately is randomly more essential to the season 3 plot than Soldier Boy ever was which feels dumb and wrong
One of the best things about this season was Hughie's arc when he laid off the temporary V and helped Annie defeat Soldier Boy with the lights, and let her save him instead of doing the opposite.
@@neech1311 Lol yea I have to wonder. Are they going to properly scale her power at some point? Like she becomes stupid strong outside of a power plant? It's crazy how much stronger Soldier Boy and Homelander are
@@Mr___f she's a chump compared to other supes. butcher, homelander, soldier boy, etc. could all easily kill her in a 1v1. I've never seen her blasts actually damage a supe in the show unless I'm forgetting something
The little girl playing Gorr’s daughter was surprisingly good in the final scene at the dinner table. Her voice and facial expressions straight away reminded me of how Bale played Gorr
Meanwhile, I was rather underwhelmed by her at the scene were she's sitting over her dying father and emoting very little. The movie so desperately did not want the audience to feel sad at all, and frankly, I wish it would have committed to a more serious execution of certain scenes.
@@ThePrimithI mean I had some tears at the end where he has to say goodbye to Jane and he says it’s better to have loved than to hate, I don’t even know why it just gets me for some reason
I love how they set up the script just to let Anthony Starr act his ass out as frequently as he can They know we're here for Homelander, and they gave us a *lot* of Homelander
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I feel like the MCU wants what the boys has, but they’re expecting to get it through quantity not quality. What made the MCU special was its core characters and its buildup in a way that was comparable to a tv show. Now both of those are gone, because it is spread very thin. The boys has both, thanks to the very nature of its IP. The boys was built as a critique of the genre, which the MCU has become- bloated, tame, and afraid to challenge its audience. The boys is not afraid, and it’s smarter than it’s competition. Rather than focus on every hero’s overly generic story, the creators of the boys focus their creativity on the core story and it’s core cast, which elevates its potential power to tell a unique story. It shocks us by exploring things we’ve never seen from the genre, and has a very clear end goal, delivered by the absolute best of the budget. The MCU needs to regain this, and consolidate so that it can deliver at the highest level. To put it simply, we don’t need 8 different 4/10 shows, it won’t work for us. One 10/10 show will keep us hooked forever. These Disney+ shows should combine rather than divide. Less is more, Disney.
You are comparing two wildly different takes on filmmaking here and its almost embarassing. The reason the boys works is because its a deconstruction of the marvel movies that populated the entirety of the 2010s. It makes all of it heroes shitty, its dark, has serious tones and the comedy usually comes from brutality if there is any comedy at all. Taika Waititi has and always will be the complete opposite of that. He makes movies that have no serious moments in them whatsoever. They are lighthearted, absurd and competently directed comedy movies deconstructing horrible situations. Hunt for the wilderpeople is about grief and acceptance while being lost in the wilderness for months. Jojo rabbit is a movie about a boy in nazi germany having to deal with having a jewish girl hidden in his house. Thor ragnarok is thor having his entire home and people destroyed. Thor love and thunder is about a maniacal god killer threatening every god in the universe and dealing with vengeance. All of these movies take these horrible things and use them as periphery to tell jokes and thats what makes them great. Not every movie has to be serious. Not everything wants or needs to be The Boys.
@@NamaJeff no one said anything about shows having to be identical to the boys in order for them to be good. The critique on marvel is that they sacrifice quality for quantity. You sorely missed the point. That's embarassing. The rest of your reply is incoherent.
@@nihilodiem9591 You can still have weight in a story, it just doesn't need to be emotional weight. There are stakes in Thor L&T, characters grow, characters die and gorr does present a threat to the gods in the movie. Just because emotional beats weren't completely serious doesn't mean they don't have weight.
I feel like a lot of Thor was rushed editing wise. The whole sequence they had in black and white was really amazing and I wish they'd taken a little more time with it. I feel like there's a lot of scenes missing out of the film in general (we didn't even get to see Jane BECOME Mighty Thor!) and yes the jokes were just too much. It was nice that Korg was back but honestly they could've left him out altogether and the movie would've been better, Sadly Waika Taiti LOVES the sound of his own voice. 😒
I get all of these but u thought the black and white scene needed more time used on it? If you mean you wanted more time there I agree sure but if your saying it needed more work on the visuals? Nah no way it was easily the best visual sequence of the movie
"Sadly Waika Taiti LOVES the sound of his own voice." So true, all this fame has gone to his head. He needs to chill and not shoe horn himself into everything.
Love and Thunder feeling like a SNL episode with an awkward celebrity host is SPOT ON. It’s like Natalie took the role to try to earn cool points with her kids.
Christian Bale also only took the role to earn cool points with his kids, though. He didn't want to be in a superhero movie again, but his kids convinced him to.
boys S3 gave Mother's Milk one of the most compelling and emotional storylines you can have on a superhero show - all without ever giving him powers. highlight of the season for me
My roommate suffers from OCD brought on by Childhood Trauma and Yeah it's... it's quite disruptive to ones life and this show managed to find a way to both explain it, and show how difficult it is to live with without in any way making fun of it, or light of it and I appreciated that.
Even though the season finale of The Boys left me feeling underwhelmed, I would still say that it is by far and away the best superhero show on TV. Nothing Disney+ put out comes close. In my opinion, only Netflix Daredevil surpasses it, although they are quite different and don't share much other than being "superhero shows".
@@GokuBlackRose978 it is definitely better So many well written characters nlinsteas of just one and the bounce off of each other brilliantly to create the plot making it unpredictable as it is a product of character decisions and interactions
@@GokuBlackRose978 I think that in terms of objective quality, you can make a good argument for either of those shows being better. At this stage, it's just about subjective enjoyment
@@LigadOss no no he got a point they essentially made 3 perfect seasons without a single boring episode which to be fair is very rare with modern tv shows
@@schwifty6401 Idk....season 2 was a slog at times...and characters constantly getting in and out of high security places without being detected is a bit contrived. Season 1 and 3 and masterpieces tho.
@@schwifty6401 ah last ep of s3 was meh We see butcher who would do anything for homelander Teaming up with homelander to defeat a guy who kept his promise
I would agree, the only phase 4 movie I liked was no way home and that was a collab with Sony that featured things from past movies. Still a great film but the overall story and the writing quality of the mcu irritates me. They could do better, they just aren't trying anymore.
Agreed. The only things I’ve liked from the MCU have been the more “one off” stories like moo knight and miss marvel. I just barely care about whatever is left of the infinity saga after having a 3 movie tops story spread out 5 years 🤷🏽♀️
@@frostyfilmwatcher2148 I would say that phase 4 is like an experiment to see what the audience wants and needs. i still love Shang-chi, NWH, Dr strange and L&T. Eternals and Black Widow are meh
@@frostyfilmwatcher2148 I begrudgingly watched NWH as I wanted to see Dafoe and Molina again and that movie was damn good . I even gave Eternal a chance but the fatigue is well in place for me and a lot of it has to do with the humor which just isn't for me. Especially when it undercuts serious and dramatic moments so consistently.
I have two major criticisms of The Boys season 3 [SPOILER ALERT] 1) The Soldier Boy storyline felt underused. SB as a character essentially functioned as a springboard for the development of other characters (MM's anger, Homelander's fear) and then they do away with him entirely. 2) The lack of criticism from the public for Homelander's nice guy facade slipping is bizarre. It would be like if Superman had been saving people with a smile for decades and then suddenly snapped and called himself a god that will not be controlled. People would realistically get nervous. And people were already protesting Homelander in season 2 so I expected more of that given these circumstances.
But what if superman was controlled by the government and nobody treated him as equal to other justice league members. I kind of agree but I do think its a little different
I actually liked Thor at the very beginning of the MCU. He was one of "the serious ones", character-wise but every now and then he would crack a joke. Now it feels like every superhero in the MCU shares the same comedian persona which just enhances the repetitive feeling of the movies and tv-shows.
I think Ragnarok is like a lightning in the bottle which is the most solid thor adventure. I did enjoy christian bale's performance but the film has issues. I liked how mighty thor story folds. The script could've been better, But I enjoy it. It's still the second best thor film behind Ragnarok.
I think the reason Ragnarok is infinitely better than the first 2 Thor movies is that it brought the humorous side of thor, making him more relatable and human. the reason L&T is a bit under Ragnarok is that the comedy overshines the serious parts. But i still enjoyed L&T
The thing about The Boys s3 finale is exactly what you said--it's setting up for next season, rather than serving as a great concluding point on its own. I felt like they were writing for longevity rather than quality several times, as several characters actually take a step back from the arcs they've been undergoing all season. The final confrontation had so much buildup and yet we're left with what feels like a return to the status quo. If you told someone season 1 that THIS is what the outcome of such a seismic "battle" would be, they wouldn't believe you. I know because I told my girlfriend, who had only seen season 1, about the finale, and she thought I was messing with her. That said, there are so many things to love when you put the finale in perspective. The first six episodes of s3 have to be the peak of the whole show, Jensen Ackles as Soldier Boy brings an incredible performance, and not EVERY character was "ruined" or "reset" by the finale as some haters would say. The parallels and contrasts between Homelander/Butcher/Hughie/Soldier Boy are amazing, and the levels of hypocrisy and irony were unreal. Still looking forward to s4!
Dude that moment was so cool though when soldier boy told homelabder you are a disappointment. And when gonelander killed noir. They were so close to killing gonelander but Ryan was in the building so they had to take down soldier boy. I hope they sue soldier boy again maybe try to kill hienlande twitch him again if they can
@Ultimate Sora How am I’m bashing the series? 💀 The dude said some haters dislikes the finale and I said the people dislikes the finale were the fans of the show.I literally seen people say they were angry that Black Noir was wasted in the finale.Don’t put words in my mouth lol
the writers for season 3 were obviously immensely confident and it really showed. every one of the super creative efforts they took was fantastic -- nicaragua, noir, you name it- everything just hit so well
Season 3 was great other than the finale for me. They built up Noir and MM's stories and didn't properly execute them imo. Like Noir had all this buildup only for it to not get utilized, I just found that to be incredibly disappointing.
@@tuxtundra7662 yeah I thought Noir’s story went nowhere. they gave him a character just in time to kill him off and most of what we learn is just in regards to Soldier Boy anyway
Antony Starr needs to be getting more recognition as an actor. He has been turning it up every single season and no nominations, no big talk about his performance outside of people who watch the show: he’s gotta get his dues
I’ll say this about Love and Thunder: It gave me and my Dad a movie to have a good time at the theater with. We got to just laugh at a silly Thor movie.
question is are you going to ever watch it again over ragnarok or infinity war, or even the first thor movie? if the answer is 'no,' it failed its job spectacularly.
Definitely. I feel like the whole lure thor with children he stole was really a lazy plot device considering he literally murdered gods from other planets but decided he would attack new asgard, not cause any casualties and just kidnap children and run away. The opening area in the movie with gor's God felt...weird. like a lot of that scene felt like it was from a bad TV sketch. Maybe it was the effects and costumes idk. It was just off. And yeah I was expecting thor to be more like ragnarok which was nice and had good comedic moments. But I felt it would be more serious after thors scene with the guardians considering gor was the main villain. Which never really happened til close to the end. Also the children scene at the end... I really didn't care for it. Yeah he gave them temporary powers but yet again gors shadow beasts took a beating like they were stuff animals. And it was established after that they didn't have any training in defending themselves.
@@notanimportantperson I love it but I’m kinda not familiar with the comics I have never read it but when I watched the show I appreciated what it was 👍
i would have loved to see this as a series. the constant switching between "this man has lost everything and wants to get bloody revenge", "this woman has cancer and an immense battle inside of her" and "this dude is having hillarious adventures and just kinda... finds himself" is just... too much. Give 'em different episodes, building up to clashes and meetings between the characters, leading up to the eventual finale.
Okay but I’ve never seen a single person say Boys S3’s finale sucked just because “nothing happened.” People’ve complained that it felt circular, backtracked certain arcs (*cough* Kimiko *cough*), or unnecessarily wasted certain elements (if you know you know). Saying that “nothing happened” is the only criticism is kinda super disingenuous.
I get like that. Sometimes things are just so unironically unfunny they loop back around to ironically funny. Humor is a funny thing. Maybe it's something you get with age. Kill the part that cringes, or whatever.
@@Chrisy7 That's honestly how the goats were for me. I thought they were funny at first, but after like 20 minutes I was sick of them. However, they won me back over when they hit the planet.
@@incoma6628 Well, not saying it’s the best fight scene in any movies ever. It’s not like there’s a lot of competition in MCU films either. Ones from Russo’s will always be my top. I like this Shadow Realm for its visual artistic choice and Bale’s performance. The rest are forgettable.
Thor love and thunder had me cackling like a goblin especially the part when he looked at the camera and said it’s thorbin time and proceeded to adopt love and thunder
Soldier Boy is such a great addition to the cast of the boys, he has to come back! One of the best characters in the show already, he fits like a glove.
I really like how almost every main character in The Boys season 3 has growth, goals, and development and their storylines is compelling and great to watch
@@BraxtonSharkboy 🤓🤓🤓 are you a movie critic? love and thunder was mid. more gorr, less comedy, would have been awesome. my standards are not low; I simply do not expect much from marvel movies. I want to see cool heroes and villains duking it out, I don't see blockbuster superpower movies for deep plot and meaning
When Butcher said “it’s butchin time innit” and butched all over Soldier Boy that really solidified to me that this show was a masterpiece. I cried, pissed my pants, came everywhere, and got a full sleeve tattoo of that quote. Thank you Eric Kripke for saving television.
I had an amazing time with Thor. Only because how ridiculous it was. Honestly. The first part when you see Thor fly on his axe like a broom from Harry Potter? It was the most GOOFIEST movie I've ever seen.
The scene where Thor says “ I’m gonna gorr your insides and feed them to my gay nigga axe” made me gorr myself. Absolute shivers. Definitely one of the movies
I was worried that season 3 of the boys wouldn't wow me as much as the last 2 seasons. Every single episode of this season was better than the one before. By far the best superhero series there is. Last episode felt like an emotional punch in the gut though. Also the way they depicted the telepath was pure gold.
@@carnivalwilson1978 Yeah, he was apart of Payback and The Boys and Soldier Boy tracked him down. He locked Butcher in a mental prison reliving his abuse.
The humor in Thor 4 also really threw me at first, until I realized it did serve the plot. The movie is about the gods being out of touch and decadent, Thor never takes a fight seriously, when he smashes that massive glass temple it's a joke but it also reinforces why Gor is doing what he's doing. The gods in Omnipotent City are more concerned with an orgy than they are about gods dying, because they don't care and Gor is right.
Ngl with all the set up they did for dying in a battle and going to valhalla I thought they were setting up something where the Asgardian gods were lying about that to get people to fight in wars like proving him even more right
i'm not expecting invincibubbles to fall off a cliff in terms of quality but technically we have 3 seasons of the boys and only 8 short episodes of invincible. still, those two shows are the ones I'm most excited about. Marvel (and Disney and DC) fatigue is super real
It’s because the boys and invincible have the tools that team four star did with dragon ball Z abridged but in a larger scale. They have the power of hindsight to help see what worked in the comics and what didn’t, and the boys specifically has the over saturation of superheroes to use in its satirical portrayal of the superhero corporation: Vought
I remember people were getting sick of the MCU around 2015/2016 of being formulaic but now it's borderline insufferable. We're now getting at least 10 TV shows and movies every year, which is just too much. Aside from brief parts of the Multiverse of Madness, Shang-Chi, Eternals and WandaVision, directors have very little creative freedom so all these films look and feel the same. Most of the time the storytelling isn't very ambitious either. Marvel has always had a safe pretty safe narrative but with this much oversaturation, it stands out even more now The CGI looks truly awful at times since Marvel/Disney overworks CGI artists who aren't unionized and give them ridiculous deadlines and the end product leaves *a lot* to be desired The very little subtlety left of the comedy in some of the earlier MCU projects has completely vanished as well and a lot of these films/tv shows aren't fun anymore either which is the bare minimum we expected from the MCU Hell we're now living in a timeline where DC are putting out better and more varied projects than Marvel which is absolutely insane
That's exactly what I was afraid of with Thor - too many jokes. Thor originally had a serious tone, then by Ragnarok it hit a great balance of serious and funny. I could tell by the trailer they were going to tip too far into "funny."
Did you saw the movie? Cuz Ragnarok has waaaaaaay more jokes like it's not even a competition, this one actually toned down the jokes they are less frequent than Ragnarok and this actually respects both gorr and Jane foster Thor storylines
bingo. i was just gonna say that. Like when the serious parts came out in thor Ragnarok after the seriousness has ended, it followed up with the joke. I think that's why Ragnarock is still best.
Thank god you gave The Boys 9/10. This is truly one of the best shows that have been on in a while. I feel like the writing team really works hard to make sure it ties together and makes sense. Good job to them! Edit: 3:47 what was that score for that old French film? I love that movie! Old filmmaking man!
It's reminiscent of when the former presient of the US said 'I can stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose any voters'
1:40 I'm so glad someone agrees. I loved the finale and the way it sets up Season 4. And the final fight between Maive and Homelander and Butcher and Starlight vs Soldier Boy was great
Me person, I'm sick of set up. Marvel does so much of it and the Boys was supposed to be different but nope, it always but about what's next and not what's now I guess.
The jokes actually worked for me a lot more in this movie than I would've expected them to. I felt like there was a better separation of jokes and serious moments than in Ragnarok where the two were often one in the same. And overall I thought the movie was pretty funny I laughed a lot. I definitely think it helps that I don't really care about the "broader MCU" anymore so it didn't bother me that it didn't move the "overarching plot" forward all that much or whatever. I'd definitely watch it again.
It's uncanny... how in hell do I always agree with you with a 90% certainty?! You're one of the few reviewer with a knack for honest and inspired analysis! Keep it up man
The reason you agree with him a lot, is because you don't watch the videos made by people who you disagree with. You watch a video by someone who likes a movie you hate, you don't like and subscribe, and soon RUclips doesn't recommend more of their videos to you. That's how in the internet age, we have all ended up in these odd little bubbles full of only opinions we agree with. It's how political discourse got so toxic, how everything got so polarised so quickly. The internet has brought us many great things. But the ability to isolate ourselves amid only like-minded people can be outright dangerous. Tl;dr by all means, keep watching Cosmonaut Quickie. But maybe watch a few vids with different opinions too. It's healthy to always listen to sources from across the spectrum.
@@Pro_Butcher_Amateur_Human Ok at first I taught you were gonna go all "negative comment" but I happen to 100% agree with you. I do watch a lot of different kind of youtuber, some i force myself to watch just to avoid echoes chambers (well at least I try). The internet was a bad idea and its tearing apart the social cohesion of ours societies. But it is rare finding someone who has almost the same approach as me on TV and movies analysis/critique. Just wanted to show my support. Have a nice day
I went into Thor without reading much into the reviews and expected a comedy. While yes, there were obviously too many jokes, I found myself laughing at the jokes simply because of how ridiculous they were. It was a fun time. Wish it was more emotional. 10/10 post-credits. 7/10 overall.
@@swedlepop7092 ridiculous in a good way, not every movie has to have a fucking plot that discusses the economic and political state of the world, and symbolism for the book of revelations or some shit dude lol. Yeah it obviously isn’t the greatest movie ever but it was still a fun time l
The meeting in the Omnipotent City almost feels reflective of the entire tone of the film: Life-threatening matters are at hand yet no one seems to take any of it seriously
My problem with Thor: Love and Thunder is that they continue to do this thing with Thor where they don't know what to do with him. Is he the main character of his own movie or are they going to pass the torch? And it feels weird because there are jokes we know Thor wouldn't do that only serve to belittle him and then there are the slightly more bigger leader roles. At this point we'll get to see another thor character in the next movie but I just wish we saw beta ray Bill.
Showing weapons have jealous emotions and pumping a screaming goat joke out 50 times instead of showing Gorr killing the gods is exactly how we needed the best thor comic run to be treated. Thanks taiki
Agreed my guy. Glad I wasn't the only one feeling this about The Boys. And damn you actually hit it on the nail for my feelings on Thor but I shamefully knew the jokes were bad but still laughed at a few.
Love and Thunder's humor works at the start of the film, when Thor is bouncing off Star-Lord's "Please stop trying to upstage me" mood. But that's it, rest of the time it falls flat except for when Thor got naked and everyone, man and woman, became faint. Because that had actually good timing and a decent punchline.
Big plus to Hemsworth. He packed on so much size. He's always been huge and his physic always fit the role, but this is the first time that he looks like an actual God, which is very important because he is playing a God.
It took me a while to finally GET the ending of the Boys, I fell into that Bandwagon that nothing really happened and the whole SB story was pointless. But after a bit of thinking, this is prolly the most that has happened emotionally and mentally to most characters. Hughie, A-train, Butcher, Homelander, Starlight all change some for the better and others for the worst. Though I still believed the ending could have been tweaked slightly, it’s still a great ending and better set up for what is undoubtedly the endgame.
The problem is that they didn't frame the ending as Soldier Boy wants to kill Ryan. He just smacked him around and didn't care about him. If they'd worked in some reason where he actually wants to kill him then everything with Butcher would work perfectly.
@@Horatio787 but he would've died if Soldier boy charged up, and it's not like Butcher could've moved Ryan because Ryan wouldn't leave Homelander's side.
@@outbobthelaw2248 I can understand the argument, what I'm saying is it's unclear cinematic language. I'm basically giving a producer note to make it clearer for people who don't take a second to try to answer their own question.
@@Horatio787 what do you mean? SB wants to kill Ryan as much as someone would a mosquito on them. The only reason he doesn't back down from Butcher is because he would never take a punch without fighting back. At that point, he didn't care about Ryan and instead wanted a genuine 1 on 1 fight with Butcha since he's offering one.
@@outbobthelaw2248 the thing I don't get is that before Ryan was feet away while Soldier Boy charged his beam and all Butcher did was tell him to back off. Now he's just lying unconscious. All anybodys gotta do is just grab him and move him 10 feet and if should be right as rain if their previous reaction to Ryan being in the room while SB charges his beam is any indication.
It looks like im in the minority but i still think S1 is the best season, its tight, the pacing is incredibly perfect, the plot is at its best. The next two are on par to me, like i still love the series but the cracks are starting to show imo, the S3 finale is the perfect example of what i feared the show could become. I don’t think the problem is that nothing happened, its how everything was executed, especially those last 30-25 minutes, the writing felt sloppy and you started to see a lot of plot armor and conveniences you see in a lot of shows and superhero properties.
S3 finale was bad because... characters start to become stupid and irrationalx they deviate from their original personality. Like Butcher saving HL, MM blindly seeking vengeance etc.
@@ibrahimalee23 It was always implied that Homelander wasn't that strong, or if he was really strong, he was just lazy. Maeve never knew she could go toe to toe with him, she even said that she'd only be able to buy a few seconds, but she had him for a minute. Butcher losing V24 definitely shakes things up and only having 12 - 18 months to live, Soldier Boy's back on ice, Black Noir (If he could've fought Homelander) is maybe dead, and Maeve's lost her powers too, so perhaps Season 4'll return to Season 1
i think he biggest thing that makes Thor different is that it's mostly post-irony and meta-irony. in the review he complained about the jokes and how it played with the Marvel formula, but i think the point was that it rides the line between cliche and making fun at the regular tropes. where normal irony means the opposite, post-irony is about saying something you mean in a sarcastic way and i feel like that's really the main force behind this movie. it's trying to make you feel conflicted and i guess that's because that's how Thor's feeling or something? idk, i have to think about it more the reason why i mention this, however, is because i feel like this is a more accurate representation of Taika's style than Thor Ragnarok. A lot of his movies make jokes by moving through the absurd rather than rejecting it, examples being JoJo Rabbit or Hunt for the Wilderperson, and i feel like he got so much more directorial freedom for this film. the main thing that makes me feel this way is the tension between the tone and the writing. it seemed generally pretty seriously written like any other Marvel movie, but the transitions and in-between moments and cut-aways all pulled you the opposite direction towards campy absurdity.
great explanation dude. Erik Voss from New Rockstar also said something similar, specifically about Watiti's directing style and overall humor. Ragnarok was about breaking down, Love & Thunder is about building up so it is understandable why some fans enjoy one a lot more over the other. It's a mature and thoughtful way of film-making and with that alone, I appreciate it more than 75% of the somewhat soulless MCU movie catalogue. Phase 4 MCU is branching out if it's overdone formula so it's only natural some fans are going to be turned off by this new direction. I hope it ends up panning out well overall.
A lot of people aren't going to enjoy this movie, like multiverse of madness or Wanda Vision and that's ok. Not everything is for everyone. But for the people that do enjoy it there was a lot to enjoy.
I get what your saying but if that is true he doesn't make it obvious enough for it to be perceived as intentional and it just comes off as more MCU shtick. If he was doing it ironically there has to be some sort of indicator that it is ironic but imo unless you are super familiar with his work it's not.
A friend of mine said that the reason the Thor movie was all over the place is because Thor was all over the place in regards to his emotional state. In order to enjoy the movie more, I’m gonna stick with that.
Yeah, Gorr really did carry this movie. I like how his true motivation is pretty kept under wraps in the movie. Because as we watch him and see him, and we hear all the news stuff about him, we believe that when he does the big bad nobody wants him to do, he’s gonna kill all the gods. However, there are some foreshadowed bits in his screen time that hint at his true intentions.
If this was any other show I would be confident that this is the last we see of noir, because after everything being near perfect it would be weird that this is how that arc ends
I think it’s like Translucent’s death where we can suspend disbelief and confirm him dead, the entire Noir character arc this season was about him coming to terms with himself and his past and trying to reconcile his past by dealing with Soldier Boy once and for all, but he serves Homelander’s catharsis in preparation to meet his father. His death is a genius plot device because it increases the stakes of Homelander’s reunion, just for Soldier Boy to reject him and recognize the pitiful person any deeper analysis reveals. It accelerates Homelander’s fall to his own self loathing and paternity issues that converts into his fit of rage at the end of the finale.
I just finished watching the Boys S3 last night and boy that last 25 seconds of the last episode is probably the scariest thing I've seen on a TV show. Horror movies don't scare me, that shit... terrifying.
I was mad at first about the Thor review, but I do agree with that last part. The final act is the better part of the movie because they back off the constant punchlines. You need levity, but the first half of the movie had too much levity, for the sake of punchlines. When they finally tone it down it is indeed a better movie
Every new MCU movie just further emphasizes Martin Scorsese’s comment about how the movies are more akin to theme park rides rather than cinema, and I think this is the one that will make the most amount of people agree
That comment is understandable, but aren't movies supposed to attract people to a theater, not just "purist" cinema art lovers. At the end of the day money is the key for a lot of these theaters, studios, and actors not just rave reviews and awards.
Yeah, one of the things that stuck out the most about Thor for me was this feeling that it was trying way too hard to be funny. Taika Waititi is really good at interweaving comedy with genuine, heartfelt storytelling, and I feel like he went full bore into what he thought made Ragnarok work. I enjoyed it, but Marvel is going to have to change things up to keep asses in the seats imo who the fuck are we kidding, they'll still be there anyway
I think the reason Ragnarok is infinitely better than the first 2 Thor movies is that it brought the humorous side of thor, making him more relatable and human. the reason L&T is a bit under Ragnarok is that the comedy overshines the serious parts. But I still enjoyed L&T
The best lines in the movie are "Call....the.....axe..." (tightens grip) "Calltheaxe". In a movie with more jokes than a season of SNL, and one Bale scene is the best part.
The thing is, Thor: Love and Thunder did a lot of things right! I felt like they tried to remedy their saga of subpar villains by opening the film setting up Gor's motivations. I really want to like this movie, but there's just something about it that isn't quite all there.
Just the tones tbh, they want gorr to be a compelling villain, so they either needed to blend/equalize the comedic tones better and let him give more to the movie, or just make the movie a little longer and go all in on the whole "mortal vs immortal reality"
I think the third act of the movie was amazing, gorr was one of my favorite villains, but the rest was too jokey for me. I liked the movie overall, I just wished it was more serious and that we could’ve gotten more of gorr
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the part where Soldier Boy said “somehow palpatine returned” i cried and cheered
When Black noir said it’s Shinobi time I felt that
i fell out of my seat when maeve said "it's maevin time" and started maevin all over those guys
When mother's milk says "welcome to the milk zone!" I shed a tear
When Doctor Michael Morbius said "the thing that I say about morbin over people" I clapped and cried
when man thing i other
Don't forget Marcus: Jenson Ackles as Soldier Boy was the other thing that just made this season so good
Jenson Ackles was so good as Soldier Boy. I hated to hate him because the Ackles did such a great job
Agreed, fantastic addition to the cast.
JensEn Ackles was amazing!!
@@MisterPrince01 he’s barely done anything in it
I'm glad they left the possibility open for him to come back in later seasons. Ackles is such a good actor and I would love to see him in the show again
This season was all about character growth and especially fatherhood, it was great watching how everyone is shaped by what came before them.
I love solider boys whole arc it was amazing 😻
this whole show is sigmund frued
@@WSendam You mean his arc of going from a racist lying abusive asshole, to a lying abusive asshole, with an equally the same son?
Joking, joking lol
Definitely an excellent season, a big improvement over season 2. I like that giving the Boys a way to kill Homelander didn't make Homelander any less scary because while they gave the Boys these ways to potentially kill him they also made HL much less limited and more threatening in other ways.
@@nileshkumaraswamy2711 Not to mention, all these ways of "killing him" were almost as dangerous is Homelander himself.
Sure, Soldier Boy was strong enough to compete with and potentially depowered him, but he's also a PTSD ridden blackout prone drug addict with (Until just before the ending) a complete inability to self reflect. Temp V gives cool powers, but we can also figure out waaaaay before the proper reveal that it has some serious health effects. Meanwhile all the while all the things that gave them the edge in season 2 are crumbling away. Maeve's allegiance, Homelander's need to be seen as heroic to be loved, even Ryan, all gone.
It leaves them with only the rockiest bridges to cross to get to him, and means they actually have to be really damn smart to keep a step ahead of him.
When gorr said "its over thor i am the american psycho" i started crying immediately it was so emotional
My favorite part was when Gorr said "let's see Paul Allen's hammer" and The Perfect Girl'd all over the place
Nah he said I'm batman.
Chills
My favorite was when Gorr sang about leaving it all behind and fulfilling his dream of moving to Santa Fe. Breathtaking performance.
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It was really interesting seeing Thor without Loki for the first time. Realizing how important their relationship was and now seeing how weird it is without Loki around. There is definitely a void there. This movie definitely had it’s highs and lows. My favorite bits were when Thor went full badass God of Thunder. Hopefully we see more of serious Thor because this comedic mid life crisis Thor is entertaining, but he doesn’t give chills like he does when he rains lightning down on his foes
Exactly I mean Loki series was great even without thor but yeah thor 4 without Loki is wierd
The movie's ONLY highs were Christian Bale's performance and that black and white sequence, which was primarily elevated because of Bale's aforementioned acting. Other than that, the film was abhorrent.
I liked the second half of the film, yeah the first half wasn't so great but when the main plot kids kicks in though there were some funny jokes for me like the axe being jealous of mjolnir
Avengers: Age of Ultron also had Thor but no Loki. Those are the only two movies that did that.
I guess age of Ultron and infinity wars don't count cuz it's an ensemble cast there
Marcus naming Invincible as the gold standard next to The Boys just makes me so happy
He knows his shit
It’s true
I can't wait for season 2 of invincible
I would argue Daredevil set that standard BUT I haven't experienced those other shows so grain of salt.
I enjoyed invincible quite a bit, but the terrible animation, horrendous cgi, and meh artstyle really knocked it down a few pegs for me.
I agree with the Natalie Portman bit. She didn’t really play the “awkward new hero” role that well and imo it would’ve been better if she had been a more serious character especially with her having cancer. My favorite part was the shadow realm fight tho. Also loved season 3 of the boys and I’m glad u do too
Idk. In my experience with people with cancer, they tend to act extra energetic or jokeybecause when you have cancer that kinda brings the mood down. Not to say that inherently all cancer patients act this way; it's just my personal experience, but to say the peppy positive attitude is uncharacteristic of a cancer patient is just wrong.
She should've been a very confident and capable thor. In the movie she seems like she doesn't know what she's doing, but she still uses mjolnir better that thor. It just doesn't make sense
I thought she was mostly good. I actually liked her energy. She seemed like she was being overly positive in order to cover up the cancer. She's sad but doing everything possible to hide it.
Season 3 was actually surprisingly good. Yes, I do think that some parts of the finale kinda fall short and weren't nearly as good as they could have been, but this season has a lot of good shit to offer and is an easy 9/10 for me
@@rodrigoflores7433 she literally has cancer, she was acting weird and upbeat due to her condition
I was annoyed at the screaming goats but god damn when they flew into the planet I actually laughed out loud.
Yes, the one joke i legitimately laughed out loud at. Sadly, other than jealous stormbreaker jokes, it was the only time i did
@@Briaaanz the storm breaker jokes were the best jokes in the entire movie I loved them.
@@Briaaanz The big criticism most general audiences had with Ragnarok was that it was too funny. He toned it down in this movie because of that which really sucks.
@@Chris-ks4sw i think he did the opposite personally but maybe its because of how widely conflicting the tones were with janes cancer and gors character paired in a movie with this many jokes. There was no REALLY serious things to tackle in ragnarok by comparison.
@@phil4909 I might actually be wrong, I think it could also be that I was just laughing a lot less at some of the jokes and thought there were actually less jokes.
One thing I love about the boys is that literally EVERY character has an in-depth arc and that’s crazy to me
Wait for it, next season we are fleshing out MM's daughter's stepdad, lol
@@vario6492 nah fuck Todd he doesn't get one lol
One things I didn't like is not really expressing how racist SB is. Like it clearly stayed by a few characters that he was a racist and horrible guy. But it never really backed up. We see him being mysogimsitc and homophobic but not racist. He even talks highly of Bill Cosby.
I just wished they could of made him fit the 1930s vibe.
@@dillianwhyte443everyone loved bill cosby, until ya know, we didn’t
@@dillianwhyte443 I don't know, he was supposed to be an 70s-80s superhero, people weren't that racist in the 80s anymore?
When butcher said "it's boyin time" I felt a new chapter in my life start right then and there
it' oi'n time
It’s chap’n time
it's bloody diabolical, that's what it is
oi, it's cunt'in time
it's cuntin' time
The Frenchie and Kimiko relationship this season was just wonderful. These two are the heart of the show for me.
They should bang and drop the sibling vibes tho
to me they were kinda cringe. I mean the actor were great and they have so much chemestry, but the whole Russian side plot felt boring to me
I unironically skip all their scenes
Lmao you’re joking
They’re 100% the humanity of the show. They’ve done horrible things but dream of a more idealistic future that they probably can’t have have. One of my favorite relationships in anything in quite some time.
"There's a really enjoyable movie here, under all the layers of Marvel formula they poured on"
Hit the nail on the head. It was better than I thought it was going to be, and I didn't hate Natalie Portman; good things. *Everything* about this movie gets better in the finale/third act, which is unfortunate cuz I think this had the potential to be an easy top 10 in the MCU
It was the opposite for me. Not all the jokes landed, but I still liked a lot of the humour in the first half (including the screaming goats), and I felt like it was definitely still Taika Waititi's humour, and not just generic Marvel humour (I didn't enjoy the humour nearly as much in Infinity War and Endgame). And then in the end, I felt it reverted to a generic final battle with a big scary villain, who had a 'sympathetic' backstory crammed in at the beginning. But that's probably just difference in preference of humour. I like real stupid stuff like goats screaming every scene, and Zeus flipping a lightning bolt for thirty seconds straight. For context, it was an 8/10 for me.
Really ? Damn I thought the final act sucked ass. When it went back to "let's fight the generic boss in the last act" bs.
@@prodigion1 Same here. Zeus flipping that Bolt around like an asshole had me in tears. And when the fighting started with the big bad villain and the huge intergalactic power and cringy dialogue with Jane I nearly fell asleep.
@@prodigion1 kinda feel the same way. I don't understand how someone can see the comedic bits as "generic marvel" when a lot of the humor is pretty typical Waiti absurdist stuff. The movie doesn't doesn't even try to hide it.
Like has anyone saying this ever *seen* a Waiti film before?
I guess I'm just confused how Marcus can clearly see and appreciate what a film like Doctor Strange is meant to be and largely accomplishes (kinda campy/silly and not taking itself *too* seriously) then just be so far off base on a movie like this that's literally doing the same thing in a different way. Imo this is the better movie of the two because it does sprinkle some genuinely heartfelt stuff around too.
@@prodigion1 It was the opposite opposite for me... just kidding the whole movie was just cringe to me. You could argue any movie could be an easy top 10 in the MCU (this is more directed at the original comment obviously) but I do still see what you guys mean. This movie had a ton of potential with an AMAZING first scene and villain overall. It just sucks how badly they ruined him later in the movie because of all of the jokes. There honestly should have been more of him in the first half of the movie and I feel like it would have been a better movie overall. Show him do literally anything other than kidnap a bunch of children to bait Thor into fighting him on his own territory like a little *****. Gorr should have been much more powerful and been easily able to beat Thor without having to resort to kidnapping. We were told earlier in the movie that he was killing tons of gods! Yet we weren't shown jack.
For me, I feel as if Thor: Love and Thunder needed to utilize showing and not telling for Gorr. I think it would've been nice and effective to see him kill gods.
Gorr shouldn't have been the villain for this movie, he deserved a higher rating and a *lot* more development
His arc in the comics was amazing and Christian Bale could've been perfect for that role
Part of his intrigue was that we DIDNT see him do too much and we didn't know what he was capable of or what his powers were. I was happy to discover it and be frightened by him right there with Thor
@@fansee1368 the Wrecking Crew and Enchantress would've fit the tone of this movie better
@@audaciousjones enchantress is dc
@@neech1311 there's an Enchantress in Marvel too
When Thor asked Gorr to "gorr away", I found that to be very powerful
I like the ending when Korg looked at Thor and Gorr’s daughter and went “You were the Love and Thunder the whole time!”
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 That killed me
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Can't believe you didn't mention "Solju boi" he was one of the highlights of this season for me along with Buther and Homelander.
dont know if ur joking but he probably avoided it for spoilers
I was exactly the same as you: I had no sense of urgency to watch The Boys S3, but I was surprised by how many touching character moments they fit in. A great season.
I had all the urgency
@@slackstarfish8133 Same. And I wasn't in love with season 2. I wss a bit disappointed in the finale but I'm still looking forward to season 3
I only had urgency from Episode 6 - 8 every other episode a waited a few days before I watched it.
Especially when Hughie talked about his father and said "He wasn't weak, I just didn't know what strength was." Was just beautiful.
I really felt Gorr was underused. I always had a feeling, based off of the cool things I've heard about him from the comics, what we got in this movie made me feel underwhelmed. Not because of the actor or his performance but of how much time was spent making jokes instead of making Gorr a more present character. I would've loved to feel fear and an overall feeling of uneasiness when he's being the God Butcher. My point is, it would've been cool to see him really killing Gods, showing their strength but are unmatched by Gorr. It's kinda hard to take him seriously when his only threat is that he stole a bunch of kids in which we all know aren't going to have a tragic end in a family friendly movie
I feel like Gorr should’ve gotten a 5 minute scene of him going sicko mode on Sif and and Falligar. That had more potential to motivate Thor than the trapped kids did, who never seemed like they were in any real danger.
They wont, it is disney now. Marvel sucks. Ita basically yhe same format every movie of pushing jokes
Gorr deserved a better movie. His fantastic design and Christian Bale's over-the-top performance made what could be another lifeless space demon into one of the MCU's best villains, with so much stage presence. Again, I have mixed feelings on Thor 4 as a whole, but the scenes with Gorr carried the film
The MCU still has a severe Bathos problem.
oh no i agree, it's criminal how they didn't used gorr more, i enjoy how they make him scary by making even zeus afraid of him, but maybe gorr going on a killing spree on gods in the city would be great to add to the threat
I think the Boys season 3 is the best thus far. So much happens in each episode. The characters are more fleshed out and interesting than their comic book counterparts. Can’t wait for season 4
This was a fluff season. Temp v makes no sense, just get a bunch of people to take it and kill homelander. It should have been more rare, like there was only a few in existence.
@@dasboom7133 I think the fact that it kills u is exactly the kind of thing that would nullify your complaint? Making it rare/making it unusable bc it kills you essentially scratches the same itch. And it’s a plot device that pushes the characters and the story in such a good direction that im surprised it bothered anyone. Just my opinion ofc
@@dasboom7133 the temp v is rare and is stored in Vaught headquarters. Also, Homelander could just run away from anyone using temp v and wait for the effects to wear off
Agreed. They literally turned Soldier Boy, a nothing joke
of a character in the comics to one of the best characters in the whole show.
@@justinbork2088 but hypothetically like all the boys could take it once and potentially outmatch home lander and be safe. It feels weird and just pops up and ultimately is randomly more essential to the season 3 plot than Soldier Boy ever was which feels dumb and wrong
One of the best things about this season was Hughie's arc when he laid off the temporary V and helped Annie defeat Soldier Boy with the lights, and let her save him instead of doing the opposite.
that was awesome though I do wish her blast did some actual damage
@@neech1311 Lol yea I have to wonder. Are they going to properly scale her power at some point? Like she becomes stupid strong outside of a power plant? It's crazy how much stronger Soldier Boy and Homelander are
@@Mr___f she's a chump compared to other supes. butcher, homelander, soldier boy, etc. could all easily kill her in a 1v1. I've never seen her blasts actually damage a supe in the show unless I'm forgetting something
@@neech1311 yeah lmao i thought she was gonna blow like half of the building but all she did was blow a like slight breeze at him
@@sldarwin5615 literally
The little girl playing Gorr’s daughter was surprisingly good in the final scene at the dinner table. Her voice and facial expressions straight away reminded me of how Bale played Gorr
Fun fact the girl who gorr's daughter is chris Hemsworth's real daughter
Meanwhile, I was rather underwhelmed by her at the scene were she's sitting over her dying father and emoting very little. The movie so desperately did not want the audience to feel sad at all, and frankly, I wish it would have committed to a more serious execution of certain scenes.
@@Vortex1234 Aww That’s cute
@@ThePrimithI mean I had some tears at the end where he has to say goodbye to Jane and he says it’s better to have loved than to hate, I don’t even know why it just gets me for some reason
literally just thought about how he hasn’t dropped a quickie for these yet
literally same
Literally same
Cosmonaut Quickie!
Same
Quick think about world peace
The makers of The Boys Knows what made their show popular and just keep pumping out that content.
I love how they set up the script just to let Anthony Starr act his ass out as frequently as he can
They know we're here for Homelander, and they gave us a *lot* of Homelander
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I wouldn’t say it like that they definitely switched it up and explored different things
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I feel like the MCU wants what the boys has, but they’re expecting to get it through quantity not quality. What made the MCU special was its core characters and its buildup in a way that was comparable to a tv show. Now both of those are gone, because it is spread very thin. The boys has both, thanks to the very nature of its IP. The boys was built as a critique of the genre, which the MCU has become- bloated, tame, and afraid to challenge its audience. The boys is not afraid, and it’s smarter than it’s competition. Rather than focus on every hero’s overly generic story, the creators of the boys focus their creativity on the core story and it’s core cast, which elevates its potential power to tell a unique story. It shocks us by exploring things we’ve never seen from the genre, and has a very clear end goal, delivered by the absolute best of the budget. The MCU needs to regain this, and consolidate so that it can deliver at the highest level.
To put it simply, we don’t need 8 different 4/10 shows, it won’t work for us. One 10/10 show will keep us hooked forever. These Disney+ shows should combine rather than divide. Less is more, Disney.
You are comparing two wildly different takes on filmmaking here and its almost embarassing. The reason the boys works is because its a deconstruction of the marvel movies that populated the entirety of the 2010s. It makes all of it heroes shitty, its dark, has serious tones and the comedy usually comes from brutality if there is any comedy at all. Taika Waititi has and always will be the complete opposite of that. He makes movies that have no serious moments in them whatsoever. They are lighthearted, absurd and competently directed comedy movies deconstructing horrible situations. Hunt for the wilderpeople is about grief and acceptance while being lost in the wilderness for months. Jojo rabbit is a movie about a boy in nazi germany having to deal with having a jewish girl hidden in his house. Thor ragnarok is thor having his entire home and people destroyed. Thor love and thunder is about a maniacal god killer threatening every god in the universe and dealing with vengeance. All of these movies take these horrible things and use them as periphery to tell jokes and thats what makes them great. Not every movie has to be serious. Not everything wants or needs to be The Boys.
@@NamaJeff no one said anything about shows having to be identical to the boys in order for them to be good. The critique on marvel is that they sacrifice quality for quantity. You sorely missed the point. That's embarassing. The rest of your reply is incoherent.
@@NamaJeff regardless, you have to treat your stories with weight, otherwise your audience can't. It's a universal truth
Perfect summary
@@nihilodiem9591 You can still have weight in a story, it just doesn't need to be emotional weight. There are stakes in Thor L&T, characters grow, characters die and gorr does present a threat to the gods in the movie. Just because emotional beats weren't completely serious doesn't mean they don't have weight.
My favorite line from the show is when they all said "it's over homelander, we are the boys"
Out of all the jokes in the comment section this one did it for me
@@crossingdragon5032 thanks cuh
😂
I feel like a lot of Thor was rushed editing wise. The whole sequence they had in black and white was really amazing and I wish they'd taken a little more time with it. I feel like there's a lot of scenes missing out of the film in general (we didn't even get to see Jane BECOME Mighty Thor!) and yes the jokes were just too much. It was nice that Korg was back but honestly they could've left him out altogether and the movie would've been better, Sadly Waika Taiti LOVES the sound of his own voice. 😒
Taika Waititi* But yea agreed absolutely
I also love the sound of his own voice
I get all of these but u thought the black and white scene needed more time used on it? If you mean you wanted more time there I agree sure but if your saying it needed more work on the visuals? Nah no way it was easily the best visual sequence of the movie
@@CKORats I think that was intentional but idk
"Sadly Waika Taiti LOVES the sound of his own voice." So true, all this fame has gone to his head. He needs to chill and not shoe horn himself into everything.
Love and Thunder feeling like a SNL episode with an awkward celebrity host is SPOT ON.
It’s like Natalie took the role to try to earn cool points with her kids.
Yeah but it's actually for the dolla dolla billz.
I think she literally said that in a recent interview too
i mean, trying to be funny, I dunno if it's in her toolkit but being serious is where she shines but there were low amounts of it.
Christian Bale also only took the role to earn cool points with his kids, though.
He didn't want to be in a superhero movie again, but his kids convinced him to.
@@GoddoDoggo and he did a good fucking job
boys S3 gave Mother's Milk one of the most compelling and emotional storylines you can have on a superhero show - all without ever giving him powers. highlight of the season for me
I commented on how MM's acting this season was next level. Can't think of his name right now. But yeah he had great material to work with good comment
@@JammaLamma Laz Alonso!! love him
I love ❤️ how he was in this season
@@madisonpetty9321 He’s easily one of the better actors in this whole show and its nuts considering how stacked the cast is
My roommate suffers from OCD brought on by Childhood Trauma and Yeah it's... it's quite disruptive to ones life and this show managed to find a way to both explain it, and show how difficult it is to live with without in any way making fun of it, or light of it and I appreciated that.
When Star Lord came back at the end to save Thor and he started singing “For You”, my theater ignited in flames
Even though the season finale of The Boys left me feeling underwhelmed, I would still say that it is by far and away the best superhero show on TV. Nothing Disney+ put out comes close. In my opinion, only Netflix Daredevil surpasses it, although they are quite different and don't share much other than being "superhero shows".
Look I get daredevil is great but the boys definitely better,
@@GokuBlackRose978 it is definitely better
So many well written characters nlinsteas of just one and the bounce off of each other brilliantly to create the plot making it unpredictable as it is a product of character decisions and interactions
I love the boys but daredevil is definitely better. Both shows fulfill different things tho.
@@GokuBlackRose978 I think that in terms of objective quality, you can make a good argument for either of those shows being better. At this stage, it's just about subjective enjoyment
@@b.l7491 yeah, I think it’s 50/50, I just like the boys better, now that makes sense, thank you.
The Boys is slowly turning into one of the greatest shows of all time if they can keep it up for the fourth season...
Maybe calm down a bit
@@LigadOss no no he got a point they essentially made 3 perfect seasons without a single boring episode which to be fair is very rare with modern tv shows
@@schwifty6401 Idk....season 2 was a slog at times...and characters constantly getting in and out of high security places without being detected is a bit contrived. Season 1 and 3 and masterpieces tho.
Yeah i agree
But the last ep was meh writing if u think no hate but it was
I really want s4 to be the best
@@schwifty6401 ah last ep of s3 was meh
We see butcher who would do anything for homelander
Teaming up with homelander to defeat a guy who kept his promise
I’m surprised he got through the whole Boys review without mentioning solider boy once
He's really been skimming on these reviews lately :(
For real. When Solider Boy finally teamed up with Liquider Woman and Captain Gaseous I was in tears. 🥲
Why saying "Solider" instead of "Soldier" became a thing? I mean, is that hard to write Soldier?
@IntrepidTit Good idea. I think I left them next to your sense of humor.
I mean it's not like solider boy did much. He killed an old superhero team and then was put right back in a comma.
The MCU fatigue has really been kicking in lately, and movies like Love and Thunder are just not helping it at all
I would agree, the only phase 4 movie I liked was no way home and that was a collab with Sony that featured things from past movies. Still a great film but the overall story and the writing quality of the mcu irritates me. They could do better, they just aren't trying anymore.
Agreed. The only things I’ve liked from the MCU have been the more “one off” stories like moo knight and miss marvel. I just barely care about whatever is left of the infinity saga after having a 3 movie tops story spread out 5 years 🤷🏽♀️
@@frostyfilmwatcher2148 I would say that phase 4 is like an experiment to see what the audience wants and needs. i still love Shang-chi, NWH, Dr strange and L&T. Eternals and Black Widow are meh
@@frostyfilmwatcher2148 I begrudgingly watched NWH as I wanted to see Dafoe and Molina again and that movie was damn good . I even gave Eternal a chance but the fatigue is well in place for me and a lot of it has to do with the humor which just isn't for me. Especially when it undercuts serious and dramatic moments so consistently.
Yeah, Phase 4 really seeming like a dud.
This season of the Boys was absolutely insane and even though the finale was a little eh for me I can’t wait for season 4.
I have two major criticisms of The Boys season 3 [SPOILER ALERT]
1) The Soldier Boy storyline felt underused. SB as a character essentially functioned as a springboard for the development of other characters (MM's anger, Homelander's fear) and then they do away with him entirely.
2) The lack of criticism from the public for Homelander's nice guy facade slipping is bizarre. It would be like if Superman had been saving people with a smile for decades and then suddenly snapped and called himself a god that will not be controlled. People would realistically get nervous. And people were already protesting Homelander in season 2 so I expected more of that given these circumstances.
But what if superman was controlled by the government and nobody treated him as equal to other justice league members. I kind of agree but I do think its a little different
I actually liked Thor at the very beginning of the MCU. He was one of "the serious ones", character-wise but every now and then he would crack a joke. Now it feels like every superhero in the MCU shares the same comedian persona which just enhances the repetitive feeling of the movies and tv-shows.
Guardians of the Galaxy taught marvel that they need to make EVERY character into Starlord.
@@derek96720 it's what happened to Drax in the second film of Guardians. They think dumber = funnier
@@claudinsky4449 drax got the Knuckles treatment ☠️
I think Ragnarok is like a lightning in the bottle which is the most solid thor adventure. I did enjoy christian bale's performance but the film has issues. I liked how mighty thor story folds. The script could've been better, But I enjoy it. It's still the second best thor film behind Ragnarok.
I think the reason Ragnarok is infinitely better than the first 2 Thor movies is that it brought the humorous side of thor, making him more relatable and human. the reason L&T is a bit under Ragnarok is that the comedy overshines the serious parts. But i still enjoyed L&T
I think the first Thor film is massively underrated
@@FonzChannel I don't like the movie because of the Dutch angles.
It did leave me wondering why Thor doesn't empower people more often. 🤔
Also, does this mean that Asgardians canonically used to eat their children?
I disagree with ragnarok being a lightning in bottle, taika watiti's stuff is consistently excellent, love and thunder is the anomaly here.
The thing about The Boys s3 finale is exactly what you said--it's setting up for next season, rather than serving as a great concluding point on its own. I felt like they were writing for longevity rather than quality several times, as several characters actually take a step back from the arcs they've been undergoing all season. The final confrontation had so much buildup and yet we're left with what feels like a return to the status quo. If you told someone season 1 that THIS is what the outcome of such a seismic "battle" would be, they wouldn't believe you. I know because I told my girlfriend, who had only seen season 1, about the finale, and she thought I was messing with her.
That said, there are so many things to love when you put the finale in perspective. The first six episodes of s3 have to be the peak of the whole show, Jensen Ackles as Soldier Boy brings an incredible performance, and not EVERY character was "ruined" or "reset" by the finale as some haters would say. The parallels and contrasts between Homelander/Butcher/Hughie/Soldier Boy are amazing, and the levels of hypocrisy and irony were unreal. Still looking forward to s4!
Dude that moment was so cool though when soldier boy told homelabder you are a disappointment. And when gonelander killed noir. They were so close to killing gonelander but Ryan was in the building so they had to take down soldier boy. I hope they sue soldier boy again maybe try to kill hienlande twitch him again if they can
“Some haters would say”
What haters? Genuinely,the only people that dislikes the finale was the fans of The Boys show
@Ultimate Sora It’s actually you who’s wrong, people have been complaining about the finale ever since it came out
@Ultimate Sora How am I’m bashing the series? 💀 The dude said some haters dislikes the finale and I said the people dislikes the finale were the fans of the show.I literally seen people say they were angry that Black Noir was wasted in the finale.Don’t put words in my mouth lol
S3 is a fantastic overall season of television with a mediocre finale, which I thought was the opposite problem of S2.
the writers for season 3 were obviously immensely confident and it really showed. every one of the super creative efforts they took was fantastic -- nicaragua, noir, you name it- everything just hit so well
It’s so good 😊 but I was so sad when black noir died
Season 3 was great other than the finale for me. They built up Noir and MM's stories and didn't properly execute them imo. Like Noir had all this buildup only for it to not get utilized, I just found that to be incredibly disappointing.
@@tuxtundra7662 agreed
@@tuxtundra7662 yeah I thought Noir’s story went nowhere. they gave him a character just in time to kill him off and most of what we learn is just in regards to Soldier Boy anyway
@@mamba7160 yeah man it’s called a tragic character
Antony Starr needs to be getting more recognition as an actor. He has been turning it up every single season and no nominations, no big talk about his performance outside of people who watch the show: he’s gotta get his dues
When thor said " as far as I remember, i always wanted to be a gangster"
I literally shivered and started thorring with the whole thorter
I’ll say this about Love and Thunder: It gave me and my Dad a movie to have a good time at the theater with. We got to just laugh at a silly Thor movie.
question is are you going to ever watch it again over ragnarok or infinity war, or even the first thor movie? if the answer is 'no,' it failed its job spectacularly.
@@erubin100 Would absolutely watch it again over the first two Thor movies
@@erubin100 yeah i'll watch it again. I'd probably just skip the first 15 minutes at most.
i pretty much agree with cosmonaut exactly but this comment i very much agree with! just nice to see silly thor movie with my dad.
@@erubin100 Looks like you got him there
Love and Thunder was way too comedic for having Gorr as the main villain. Gorr himself was underutilized.
I haven’t even seen the movie yet, but I’m gonna agree with this.
Fun movie, but very inconsistent tone. I wish we got more Gorr. I really thought Bale was fantastic in that role
Definitely. I feel like the whole lure thor with children he stole was really a lazy plot device considering he literally murdered gods from other planets but decided he would attack new asgard, not cause any casualties and just kidnap children and run away.
The opening area in the movie with gor's God felt...weird. like a lot of that scene felt like it was from a bad TV sketch. Maybe it was the effects and costumes idk. It was just off.
And yeah I was expecting thor to be more like ragnarok which was nice and had good comedic moments. But I felt it would be more serious after thors scene with the guardians considering gor was the main villain. Which never really happened til close to the end.
Also the children scene at the end... I really didn't care for it. Yeah he gave them temporary powers but yet again gors shadow beasts took a beating like they were stuff animals. And it was established after that they didn't have any training in defending themselves.
i just realized that this movie would've been better if they had a goofy villain instead of gorr the fcking god butcher
Expected them to include wayyyy more of him after that opening scene
The fact that invincible, the boys, and doom patrol are all airing at the same time is so amazing for superhero television
I’m so sad nobody talks about the Doom Patrol
@@WSendam how is Doom Patrol anyways?
@@notanimportantperson I love it but I’m kinda not familiar with the comics I have never read it but when I watched the show I appreciated what it was 👍
Where's invincible?
@@ajadler1629 amazon prime
i would have loved to see this as a series. the constant switching between "this man has lost everything and wants to get bloody revenge", "this woman has cancer and an immense battle inside of her" and "this dude is having hillarious adventures and just kinda... finds himself" is just... too much. Give 'em different episodes, building up to clashes and meetings between the characters, leading up to the eventual finale.
Okay but I’ve never seen a single person say Boys S3’s finale sucked just because “nothing happened.”
People’ve complained that it felt circular, backtracked certain arcs (*cough* Kimiko *cough*), or unnecessarily wasted certain elements (if you know you know). Saying that “nothing happened” is the only criticism is kinda super disingenuous.
The screaming goats had my dad laughing at how much he hated seeing them.
I get like that. Sometimes things are just so unironically unfunny they loop back around to ironically funny. Humor is a funny thing. Maybe it's something you get with age. Kill the part that cringes, or whatever.
@@Chrisy7 apparently that's a core component of Zoomer humour.
@@thuranz2773 It's metamodernism fam.
@@Chrisy7 That's honestly how the goats were for me. I thought they were funny at first, but after like 20 minutes I was sick of them. However, they won me back over when they hit the planet.
Despite all its flaws, I gotta say, the fight on Shadow Realm planet thing is probably one of my most favorite battle scenes in MCU.
When I saw that in theaters I was like damn I wanna watch THAT movie
No
Yes, fighting black blobs in black and white scenery was amazing... XD
@@incoma6628 Well, not saying it’s the best fight scene in any movies ever. It’s not like there’s a lot of competition in MCU films either. Ones from Russo’s will always be my top. I like this Shadow Realm for its visual artistic choice and Bale’s performance. The rest are forgettable.
Thor love and thunder had me cackling like a goblin especially the part when he looked at the camera and said it’s thorbin time and proceeded to adopt love and thunder
these jokes are so unfunny. please go back to penguinz0 comment sections
@@acecutioner bruhhh don’t drag Charlie down like that smh
@@blazer_nation7718 nah he has a point Charlie is a goated content creator but his comment section is wack
@@acecutioner You could just ignore it dude
@@blazer_nation7718 i love charlie! id never drag him down. just has annoying ass comment sections
Soldier Boy is such a great addition to the cast of the boys, he has to come back! One of the best characters in the show already, he fits like a glove.
I really like how almost every main character in The Boys season 3 has growth, goals, and development and their storylines is compelling and great to watch
Man I finally get what those Supernatural fans were clamoring about for 15 years, Jensen Ackles is pretty cool
He’s so good I wish he got more roles
He was already amazing in his role as Red hood in Batman:Under the Red Hood which takes inspiration from the comic books
As a Supernatural fan, I'm glad he's getting more attention
If Thor held back 20% of the jokes, and gave us more Gorr being a Butcher, and changed the final fight, it would of been a solid 10/10 for me
You got low standards fr
@@ikoandreas5085 yeah not gonna lie I mean I'm glad you enjoyed it but even a theoretical ideal cut of Love and Thunder is nowhere near a ten
@@skttrbrain2513
Is it really ideal if it isn't a ten though
@@ikoandreas5085 that’s literally what movies have come down too, we expect so little now and the masses jus accept it
@@BraxtonSharkboy 🤓🤓🤓 are you a movie critic? love and thunder was mid. more gorr, less comedy, would have been awesome. my standards are not low; I simply do not expect much from marvel movies. I want to see cool heroes and villains duking it out, I don't see blockbuster superpower movies for deep plot and meaning
Imagine Thor Love and Thunder is what begins the anti-marvel VFX Artist movement
i hope so
3:28 "You can say comedy is subjective, and I can say that I'm gonna find where you live" 💀
When Butcher said “it’s butchin time innit” and butched all over Soldier Boy that really solidified to me that this show was a masterpiece. I cried, pissed my pants, came everywhere, and got a full sleeve tattoo of that quote. Thank you Eric Kripke for saving television.
Very original and funny
I had an amazing time with Thor. Only because how ridiculous it was. Honestly. The first part when you see Thor fly on his axe like a broom from Harry Potter? It was the most GOOFIEST movie I've ever seen.
The scene where Thor says “ I’m gonna gorr your insides and feed them to my gay nigga axe” made me gorr myself. Absolute shivers. Definitely one of the movies
@@Us3r739 Fucking kek lmao
I was worried that season 3 of the boys wouldn't wow me as much as the last 2 seasons. Every single episode of this season was better than the one before. By far the best superhero series there is. Last episode felt like an emotional punch in the gut though. Also the way they depicted the telepath was pure gold.
Was there a telepath in season 3?
@@carnivalwilson1978 Yeah, he was apart of Payback and The Boys and Soldier Boy tracked him down. He locked Butcher in a mental prison reliving his abuse.
@@carnivalwilson1978 yeah, mind storm
> an emotional punch in the gut
Lol
The humor in Thor 4 also really threw me at first, until I realized it did serve the plot. The movie is about the gods being out of touch and decadent, Thor never takes a fight seriously, when he smashes that massive glass temple it's a joke but it also reinforces why Gor is doing what he's doing. The gods in Omnipotent City are more concerned with an orgy than they are about gods dying, because they don't care and Gor is right.
Ngl with all the set up they did for dying in a battle and going to valhalla I thought they were setting up something where the Asgardian gods were lying about that to get people to fight in wars like proving him even more right
i'm not expecting invincibubbles to fall off a cliff in terms of quality but technically we have 3 seasons of the boys and only 8 short episodes of invincible. still, those two shows are the ones I'm most excited about. Marvel (and Disney and DC) fatigue is super real
It’s because the boys and invincible have the tools that team four star did with dragon ball Z abridged but in a larger scale.
They have the power of hindsight to help see what worked in the comics and what didn’t, and the boys specifically has the over saturation of superheroes to use in its satirical portrayal of the superhero corporation: Vought
I remember people were getting sick of the MCU around 2015/2016 of being formulaic but now it's borderline insufferable.
We're now getting at least 10 TV shows and movies every year, which is just too much. Aside from brief parts of the Multiverse of Madness, Shang-Chi, Eternals and WandaVision, directors have very little creative freedom so all these films look and feel the same. Most of the time the storytelling isn't very ambitious either. Marvel has always had a safe pretty safe narrative but with this much oversaturation, it stands out even more now
The CGI looks truly awful at times since Marvel/Disney overworks CGI artists who aren't unionized and give them ridiculous deadlines and the end product leaves *a lot* to be desired
The very little subtlety left of the comedy in some of the earlier MCU projects has completely vanished as well and a lot of these films/tv shows aren't fun anymore either which is the bare minimum we expected from the MCU
Hell we're now living in a timeline where DC are putting out better and more varied projects than Marvel which is absolutely insane
That's exactly what I was afraid of with Thor - too many jokes. Thor originally had a serious tone, then by Ragnarok it hit a great balance of serious and funny. I could tell by the trailer they were going to tip too far into "funny."
Did you saw the movie? Cuz Ragnarok has waaaaaaay more jokes like it's not even a competition, this one actually toned down the jokes they are less frequent than Ragnarok and this actually respects both gorr and Jane foster Thor storylines
@@IvanCH98 ragnarok was way better at actually having serious moments mot interruputed by cheap jokes
Go watch the movie if you haven’t. It’s not great, but I got some enjoyment out of it. Definitely a middling MCU movie with some good moments
@@biffmcspandex7748 You just described most of the MCU's roster
bingo. i was just gonna say that. Like when the serious parts came out in thor Ragnarok after the seriousness has ended, it followed up with the joke. I think that's why Ragnarock is still best.
Thank god you gave The Boys 9/10. This is truly one of the best shows that have been on in a while. I feel like the writing team really works hard to make sure it ties together and makes sense. Good job to them!
Edit: 3:47 what was that score for that old French film? I love that movie! Old filmmaking man!
Le Voyage dans la Lune
The only thing scarier than Homelander leveling New York city, is him getting validated for his murder.
It's reminiscent of when the former presient of the US said 'I can stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose any voters'
The parallels with modern day American right wing extremists were disturbingly accurate
1:40 I'm so glad someone agrees. I loved the finale and the way it sets up Season 4. And the final fight between Maive and Homelander and Butcher and Starlight vs Soldier Boy was great
Me person, I'm sick of set up. Marvel does so much of it and the Boys was supposed to be different but nope, it always but about what's next and not what's now I guess.
The jokes actually worked for me a lot more in this movie than I would've expected them to. I felt like there was a better separation of jokes and serious moments than in Ragnarok where the two were often one in the same. And overall I thought the movie was pretty funny I laughed a lot.
I definitely think it helps that I don't really care about the "broader MCU" anymore so it didn't bother me that it didn't move the "overarching plot" forward all that much or whatever. I'd definitely watch it again.
It's uncanny... how in hell do I always agree with you with a 90% certainty?! You're one of the few reviewer with a knack for honest and inspired analysis! Keep it up man
Isn't it crazy how the person you agree with is the honest and inspired one?
@@JD-wu5pf I know right?? Probably some weird cosmic coincidence
The reason you agree with him a lot, is because you don't watch the videos made by people who you disagree with.
You watch a video by someone who likes a movie you hate, you don't like and subscribe, and soon RUclips doesn't recommend more of their videos to you.
That's how in the internet age, we have all ended up in these odd little bubbles full of only opinions we agree with. It's how political discourse got so toxic, how everything got so polarised so quickly.
The internet has brought us many great things. But the ability to isolate ourselves amid only like-minded people can be outright dangerous.
Tl;dr by all means, keep watching Cosmonaut Quickie. But maybe watch a few vids with different opinions too. It's healthy to always listen to sources from across the spectrum.
@@Pro_Butcher_Amateur_Human Ok at first I taught you were gonna go all "negative comment" but I happen to 100% agree with you. I do watch a lot of different kind of youtuber, some i force myself to watch just to avoid echoes chambers (well at least I try). The internet was a bad idea and its tearing apart the social cohesion of ours societies.
But it is rare finding someone who has almost the same approach as me on TV and movies analysis/critique. Just wanted to show my support.
Have a nice day
I went into Thor without reading much into the reviews and expected a comedy. While yes, there were obviously too many jokes, I found myself laughing at the jokes simply because of how ridiculous they were. It was a fun time. Wish it was more emotional. 10/10 post-credits. 7/10 overall.
having a good time because of how ridiculous it was proves how shit the film was
the best joke was the one about Thor eating kids
@@swedlepop7092 so I guess the evil dead or raimi spider man movies are shit then? Cause that’s why most of us love them, for how ridiculous they are.
@@swedlepop7092 ridiculous in a good way, not every movie has to have a fucking plot that discusses the economic and political state of the world, and symbolism for the book of revelations or some shit dude lol. Yeah it obviously isn’t the greatest movie ever but it was still a fun time l
@@alexlennen "those were dark times. We moved past them now."
The meeting in the Omnipotent City almost feels reflective of the entire tone of the film: Life-threatening matters are at hand yet no one seems to take any of it seriously
My problem with Thor: Love and Thunder is that they continue to do this thing with Thor where they don't know what to do with him.
Is he the main character of his own movie or are they going to pass the torch? And it feels weird because there are jokes we know Thor wouldn't do that only serve to belittle him and then there are the slightly more bigger leader roles.
At this point we'll get to see another thor character in the next movie but I just wish we saw beta ray Bill.
Soldier Boy was my favorite thing about S3, and I swear Gorr needed so many more scenes cause he was amazing
Christian Bale did charity work to keep Thor from being completely unwatchable
I disagree. It was completely unwatchable. I should've walked out, but sigh... I didn't and now live with that regret
Showing weapons have jealous emotions and pumping a screaming goat joke out 50 times instead of showing Gorr killing the gods is exactly how we needed the best thor comic run to be treated. Thanks taiki
RU being sarcastic?
@@niveinratnayake668 what do you think? Of course he is.
@@niveinratnayake668 No. he’s being gay.
I was so disappointed when they showed that giant god he killed yet we didn't get to see him do it. I guess their lack of good CGI accounts for that
@@Us3r739 well... OK
Agreed my guy. Glad I wasn't the only one feeling this about The Boys. And damn you actually hit it on the nail for my feelings on Thor but I shamefully knew the jokes were bad but still laughed at a few.
Mans got his voice set to 'permanent sickness mode'
Love and Thunder's humor works at the start of the film, when Thor is bouncing off Star-Lord's "Please stop trying to upstage me" mood. But that's it, rest of the time it falls flat except for when Thor got naked and everyone, man and woman, became faint. Because that had actually good timing and a decent punchline.
everything about the boys was bloody brilliant
Except the final
You could say it was *DIABOLICAL!!!*
Really? Am I the only one that feels like it's a dated parody written by someone who doesn't even like the genre?
@@myself2noone yes you are indeed the only one
@@myself2noone that's the comics, the show isn't like that
Big plus to Hemsworth. He packed on so much size. He's always been huge and his physic always fit the role, but this is the first time that he looks like an actual God, which is very important because he is playing a God.
What human growth hormone does to a clanka
Half the budget went to the locally sourced bull testosterone they injected directly into his biceps
PED’s can make you look incredible. That’s true.
@@WarningBFG-isHiring 99.9% of us can take as many peds as we like and still not look like that.
he be eatin those trenbolone sandwiches for sure
It took me a while to finally GET the ending of the Boys, I fell into that Bandwagon that nothing really happened and the whole SB story was pointless. But after a bit of thinking, this is prolly the most that has happened emotionally and mentally to most characters. Hughie, A-train, Butcher, Homelander, Starlight all change some for the better and others for the worst. Though I still believed the ending could have been tweaked slightly, it’s still a great ending and better set up for what is undoubtedly the endgame.
The problem is that they didn't frame the ending as Soldier Boy wants to kill Ryan. He just smacked him around and didn't care about him. If they'd worked in some reason where he actually wants to kill him then everything with Butcher would work perfectly.
@@Horatio787 but he would've died if Soldier boy charged up, and it's not like Butcher could've moved Ryan because Ryan wouldn't leave Homelander's side.
@@outbobthelaw2248 I can understand the argument, what I'm saying is it's unclear cinematic language. I'm basically giving a producer note to make it clearer for people who don't take a second to try to answer their own question.
@@Horatio787 what do you mean? SB wants to kill Ryan as much as someone would a mosquito on them. The only reason he doesn't back down from Butcher is because he would never take a punch without fighting back. At that point, he didn't care about Ryan and instead wanted a genuine 1 on 1 fight with Butcha since he's offering one.
@@outbobthelaw2248 the thing I don't get is that before Ryan was feet away while Soldier Boy charged his beam and all Butcher did was tell him to back off. Now he's just lying unconscious. All anybodys gotta do is just grab him and move him 10 feet and if should be right as rain if their previous reaction to Ryan being in the room while SB charges his beam is any indication.
The scenes with Christian bale were actually pretty terrifying. More so than anything in Dr strange multiverse of madness
When Gorr said "it's Gorrbin' time", the audience absolutely lost it!
It looks like im in the minority but i still think S1 is the best season, its tight, the pacing is incredibly perfect, the plot is at its best. The next two are on par to me, like i still love the series but the cracks are starting to show imo, the S3 finale is the perfect example of what i feared the show could become. I don’t think the problem is that nothing happened, its how everything was executed, especially those last 30-25 minutes, the writing felt sloppy and you started to see a lot of plot armor and conveniences you see in a lot of shows and superhero properties.
S3 finale was bad because... characters start to become stupid and irrationalx they deviate from their original personality. Like Butcher saving HL, MM blindly seeking vengeance etc.
S1 has the best shot in the whole show, so it easily wins
@@ibrahimalee23 It was always implied that Homelander wasn't that strong, or if he was really strong, he was just lazy. Maeve never knew she could go toe to toe with him, she even said that she'd only be able to buy a few seconds, but she had him for a minute. Butcher losing V24 definitely shakes things up and only having 12 - 18 months to live, Soldier Boy's back on ice, Black Noir (If he could've fought Homelander) is maybe dead, and Maeve's lost her powers too, so perhaps Season 4'll return to Season 1
i think he biggest thing that makes Thor different is that it's mostly post-irony and meta-irony. in the review he complained about the jokes and how it played with the Marvel formula, but i think the point was that it rides the line between cliche and making fun at the regular tropes.
where normal irony means the opposite, post-irony is about saying something you mean in a sarcastic way and i feel like that's really the main force behind this movie. it's trying to make you feel conflicted and i guess that's because that's how Thor's feeling or something? idk, i have to think about it more
the reason why i mention this, however, is because i feel like this is a more accurate representation of Taika's style than Thor Ragnarok. A lot of his movies make jokes by moving through the absurd rather than rejecting it, examples being JoJo Rabbit or Hunt for the Wilderperson, and i feel like he got so much more directorial freedom for this film.
the main thing that makes me feel this way is the tension between the tone and the writing. it seemed generally pretty seriously written like any other Marvel movie, but the transitions and in-between moments and cut-aways all pulled you the opposite direction towards campy absurdity.
great explanation dude. Erik Voss from New Rockstar also said something similar, specifically about Watiti's directing style and overall humor. Ragnarok was about breaking down, Love & Thunder is about building up so it is understandable why some fans enjoy one a lot more over the other. It's a mature and thoughtful way of film-making and with that alone, I appreciate it more than 75% of the somewhat soulless MCU movie catalogue. Phase 4 MCU is branching out if it's overdone formula so it's only natural some fans are going to be turned off by this new direction. I hope it ends up panning out well overall.
I’m sorry if I just don’t get it but this just sounds really pretentious
A lot of people aren't going to enjoy this movie, like multiverse of madness or Wanda Vision and that's ok. Not everything is for everyone. But for the people that do enjoy it there was a lot to enjoy.
@@bigred6884 most discussion on film, or even art in general, outside of movie good movie bad is going to sound a lil pretentious.
I get what your saying but if that is true he doesn't make it obvious enough for it to be perceived as intentional and it just comes off as more MCU shtick. If he was doing it ironically there has to be some sort of indicator that it is ironic but imo unless you are super familiar with his work it's not.
the tag team w butcher and solider boy still gets me hype
A friend of mine said that the reason the Thor movie was all over the place is because Thor was all over the place in regards to his emotional state. In order to enjoy the movie more, I’m gonna stick with that.
7:02 "Jeff Goldblum": shows The Hulk
Herogasm was easily one of the best episodes in television history. 10/10 on every level of filmmaking and screenwriting
10/10 filmmaking for that episode is fucking hilarious
Yeah, Gorr really did carry this movie. I like how his true motivation is pretty kept under wraps in the movie. Because as we watch him and see him, and we hear all the news stuff about him, we believe that when he does the big bad nobody wants him to do, he’s gonna kill all the gods. However, there are some foreshadowed bits in his screen time that hint at his true intentions.
If this was any other show I would be confident that this is the last we see of noir, because after everything being near perfect it would be weird that this is how that arc ends
Homelander literally ripped his guts out of his body and threw them across the room. Noir is toast
I think it’s like Translucent’s death where we can suspend disbelief and confirm him dead, the entire Noir character arc this season was about him coming to terms with himself and his past and trying to reconcile his past by dealing with Soldier Boy once and for all, but he serves Homelander’s catharsis in preparation to meet his father. His death is a genius plot device because it increases the stakes of Homelander’s reunion, just for Soldier Boy to reject him and recognize the pitiful person any deeper analysis reveals. It accelerates Homelander’s fall to his own self loathing and paternity issues that converts into his fit of rage at the end of the finale.
I just finished watching the Boys S3 last night and boy that last 25 seconds of the last episode is probably the scariest thing I've seen on a TV show. Horror movies don't scare me, that shit... terrifying.
I was mad at first about the Thor review, but I do agree with that last part. The final act is the better part of the movie because they back off the constant punchlines. You need levity, but the first half of the movie had too much levity, for the sake of punchlines. When they finally tone it down it is indeed a better movie
0 dislikes this is bound to be good
Dislikes aren’t a thing anymore 😃
@@benherrington4845 that is the joke
@@benherrington4845 r/woooosh
@@benherrington4845 really?
Every new MCU movie just further emphasizes Martin Scorsese’s comment about how the movies are more akin to theme park rides rather than cinema, and I think this is the one that will make the most amount of people agree
That comment is understandable, but aren't movies supposed to attract people to a theater, not just "purist" cinema art lovers. At the end of the day money is the key for a lot of these theaters, studios, and actors not just rave reviews and awards.
@@TheMaestroMizerous At the very least they can have a sensible plot and characters.
Ah yes let's make a 5 year old kid watch taxi driver.
Yeah, one of the things that stuck out the most about Thor for me was this feeling that it was trying way too hard to be funny. Taika Waititi is really good at interweaving comedy with genuine, heartfelt storytelling, and I feel like he went full bore into what he thought made Ragnarok work. I enjoyed it, but Marvel is going to have to change things up to keep asses in the seats imo
who the fuck are we kidding, they'll still be there anyway
I think the reason Ragnarok is infinitely better than the first 2 Thor movies is that it brought the humorous side of thor, making him more relatable and human. the reason L&T is a bit under Ragnarok is that the comedy overshines the serious parts. But I still enjoyed L&T
The best lines in the movie are "Call....the.....axe..." (tightens grip) "Calltheaxe". In a movie with more jokes than a season of SNL, and one Bale scene is the best part.
I think The Boys needed either an hour and a half finale, or just another episode, because that was a whole lot all at once.
The thing is, Thor: Love and Thunder did a lot of things right! I felt like they tried to remedy their saga of subpar villains by opening the film setting up Gor's motivations. I really want to like this movie, but there's just something about it that isn't quite all there.
Just the tones tbh, they want gorr to be a compelling villain, so they either needed to blend/equalize the comedic tones better and let him give more to the movie, or just make the movie a little longer and go all in on the whole "mortal vs immortal reality"
Homelander is one of the best villains I’ve seen in a long time in any genre of film
I think the third act of the movie was amazing, gorr was one of my favorite villains, but the rest was too jokey for me. I liked the movie overall, I just wished it was more serious and that we could’ve gotten more of gorr
Never would have thought I'd see a freaking *Thor* movie that doesn't take itself seriously enough
When Butcher said "IT'S CLOBBERIN' TIME!!!" I felt that.