Torture Testing Cheap vs Expensive Dremel Tools

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  • Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024

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  • @Donut
    @Donut  2 года назад +504

    What tool should we do next?

  • @gradientO
    @gradientO 2 года назад +3624

    Cool. I was wondering which electric toothbrush to buy, video came just in time

    • @squintscom
      @squintscom 2 года назад +69

      You and me both actually

    • @07_axu
      @07_axu 2 года назад +93

      I was searching for a ball cutter

    • @travise830
      @travise830 2 года назад +134

      That name avatar combo lol

    • @Racing_Dude
      @Racing_Dude 2 года назад +36

      You should put you profile picture as a Chevrolet logo.

    • @mileftnht
      @mileftnht 2 года назад +4

      Gleam is pretty nice tbh

  • @arcticfoam5480
    @arcticfoam5480 2 года назад +542

    Love it when you guys have the freedom to add humor to the adds, makes them very watchable compared to other channels

    • @icosthop9998
      @icosthop9998 2 года назад +8

      Personalize ads 🙂
      I don't mind watching them I don't fast forward these.

    • @dakotastlaurent9407
      @dakotastlaurent9407 2 года назад +3

      I still dont watch them, other than sams!

    • @kenyalucy
      @kenyalucy 2 года назад +1

      I never fast forward Donuts ads. They make them unique and entertaining. Way more likely to buy from their ads and they r memorable

    • @slycarlo8747
      @slycarlo8747 2 года назад +1

      I find the best adds are the ones you don’t even notice, Nitto tires has been sponsoring RUclipsrs for ever but have never made them do a real ad for their company if my memory is correct. They understand that by exposing a large audience to their product, and it’s a good enough product, they’ll sell units. Tires can be the most expensive thing most people will ever buy for their vehicle especially if you buy Nittos. Coopers used to be the only tire I’d trust on my ride but since they got sold to Goodyear I had to look at other options.

    • @icosthop9998
      @icosthop9998 2 года назад +1

      💲 RUclips is forever hitting me up to buy into them, so I don't get to see any ADs ; but if the ads are incorporated within the program channel like this, then you are still gonna get ads

  • @stantheman9002
    @stantheman9002 2 года назад +136

    I love how the "Donut Classic" is just beating the shit out of whatever tools you're testing.

  • @rubbers3
    @rubbers3 2 года назад +73

    There are a few factors in choosing a tool:
    -How often will you use it?
    -Can it do things other tools can't?
    -How big of an improvement it would be to have it, rather than using other tools?
    -Would the quality of the tool matter much (i.e. if it's more of a hassle to use it, than to use something else)?
    Those indicate first if you need this tool, and if it's worth investing in. There are some very specific, one use-case only tools, that you use like once a year maybe, but without them, life's pain that one time a year, like screw/bolt extractors. There are also some multi-function tools, that don't do anything better than any of the dedicated tools, but are an all-in-one package, like a Leatherman multi-tool.
    There are also tools that you'd think you wouldn't use much, that can be easily be substituted with other cheap tools, that can't do much, but the things they can do, mean they're an important part of the toolbox - that's a rotary dremel tool. In this case, if you need a small, precise cutter, where an angle grinder would be too big, if you need to drill a pilot hole into something, where a normal drill would be too big, if you need to polish something, and a polisher would be too big, and using sandpaper would be too much of a hassle, it's absolutely perfect. The quality of the tool and the speed of it doesn't matter THAT much. So yeah, go with a cheap one, and you're set.

    • @fatpad00
      @fatpad00 2 года назад +16

      With a rotary tool I'd argue the accessories matter much more than the tool itself.

    • @rubbers3
      @rubbers3 2 года назад +7

      @@fatpad00 kind of, but the issue is with the tool and it's compatibility with the accessories, or vice versa - if the most common/best accessories fit the tool. There are some cheap brands that use some proprietary standards or attachment methods that vastly limit their compatibility.
      That's a part of the quality of the tool and the hassle of use, which includes finding the bits, needing to order them from China or whatever, instead of getting the off the shelf or a quick shipping.
      That being said, in terms of a rotary yes, the accessories matter a lot, but if they're interchangeable, then the quality of the tool matters a lot - the ability to control the speed of the tool, how comfortable it is to use (i.e. ergonomics), the durability of the motor, the specs of it etc. Basically the things that you can't change but will impact your use of the tool.
      BUT, it's also worth pointing out, that in terms of a rotary, it's very important to remember, HOW TO USE the tool, that it's not a torque tool, but a speed tool. I've seen many people complain about them getting stuck or slowing down or overheating due to pushing hard to do the job faster, instead of using it as intended.

    • @jakezanders6598
      @jakezanders6598 2 года назад +12

      My philosophy has always been, if I want a tool, buy the cheapest one possible, abuse it till it breaks, then buy a replacement, now armed with basically all the information in your list. Usecase, ergonomics, etc. Once you know what you dislike about a cheap one, you can shop for a mid or high end to suit your needs

    • @rubbers3
      @rubbers3 2 года назад +7

      @@jakezanders6598 That's not a bad idea, but I'm a person that uses hates buying something sub-par, that hates wasting money, so I spend hours or days researching, spending time rather than money.

    • @jakezanders6598
      @jakezanders6598 2 года назад +5

      @@rubbers3 makes sense. In a professional setting, I value my time way more than a few cheap tools. And I suppose I'm really only thinking of sub $200 tools anyways. I wouldn't do that with a table saw or something like that

  • @jimmyguy428
    @jimmyguy428 2 года назад +409

    Talking long term, I'd have to recommend the Dremel brand. I've had mine for 30 plus years, most of my 35 plus year mechanic career, and it's still going strong. As I was told by an old timer when I first got into the industry, "Service your power tools, and they will serve you well."

    • @jackryan4313
      @jackryan4313 2 года назад +47

      Gee wait, taking care of machinery extends its life? Wow
      (Not sarcasm towards you, but to those who cry about their tools breaking in a year or two when they've never done any maintenance on them at all)

    • @FirstLast-bi8xi
      @FirstLast-bi8xi 2 года назад +83

      A dremel from 30 yrs ago is not the quality of the current ones.

    • @jackryan4313
      @jackryan4313 2 года назад +10

      @@FirstLast-bi8xi true...

    • @jimmyguy428
      @jimmyguy428 2 года назад +10

      @@jackryan4313 LOL! I understood exactly what you meant. It's sad, but true.

    • @-Jethro-
      @-Jethro- 2 года назад +8

      @@FirstLast-bi8xi Yep, I also have a 30+ year old Dremel that’s going strong, but sadly I would not expect a new one to be the same.

  • @shifty9800
    @shifty9800 2 года назад +211

    i think car jacks would be a great idea for the next episode, from a hand/scissor jack, traditional floor jack, even an air jack

    • @atlehassum1492
      @atlehassum1492 2 года назад +2

      YEEEEESS! Car jack country is full of surprises! I had a mid-range priced jack a couple years ago, and it started drooping and leaking oil wayyy too early (after being used like 3-4 times, well within ranges of intended use)

    • @spazmaticaa7989
      @spazmaticaa7989 2 года назад +7

      I would probably look more at typical floor jacks. Scissor jacks should really only be used in emergency situations, or to provide some clearance to get a floor jack underneath if the car is too low

    • @modelbreeze1916
      @modelbreeze1916 2 года назад

      A showdown between jacks? One might even call it, a good ol Jack Off!

    • @modelbreeze1916
      @modelbreeze1916 2 года назад +2

      @@spazmaticaa7989 Yep, I've had about 5 scissor jacks fail on me in my lifetime. Thankfully only while lowering or raising the vehicle to place actual jack stands. It's still a bit scary though, and is the reason people say to never work under your car with just a scissor jack.

    • @tylerdouangmala1054
      @tylerdouangmala1054 2 года назад +1

      Yes do this. Comparing jacks would be useful

  • @OfficiallySnek
    @OfficiallySnek 2 года назад +717

    Don't you think that the drop test was a little unfair? If you look closely, the "rotary tools", the Harbor Freight one fell a bit more sideways, causing it to not hit the and bend the shaft as much. The other ones pretty much had a direct hit with the shaft. It might have been better to do a more controlled drop.

    • @911lilslim
      @911lilslim 2 года назад +39

      Amazon fell directly on the chuck for sure

    • @tankerd1847
      @tankerd1847 2 года назад +73

      It's better to use something like an impactor, like a weight on a pendulum that way you know all of the tools are getting hit the same way with the same force. When you drop them you can't control HOW the tool will fall even if you drop them from a jig or something.

    • @modelbreeze1916
      @modelbreeze1916 2 года назад +76

      Yeah I noticed that too. They definitely need a more consistent test for the impact durability section. It's kind of pointless if they just land willy nilly. I bet if the harbour freight landed chuck side first it would be just as broken as the others.

    • @kensmith3665
      @kensmith3665 2 года назад +10

      Yes. Control the variables and get valid comparisons that may indicate a high probability of a consistent repeated outcome or expectation that can be logically derived from the testing observations.

    • @blahorgaslisk7763
      @blahorgaslisk7763 2 года назад +27

      As much as I agree with you about the variability of the drop test, well actually all of the tests, I still think it got one point across. No matter what brand you get an unfortunate drop will damage it. Just because you payed 6 times as much for the Dremel it doesn't mean it will take the abuse shown in the video and not be damaged.
      Yes they could have made a more scientifically relevant test to show exactly how much force it takes to damage the tool, but in the end it's more that you should try to not drop it from a ladder in the first case.
      Measuring the power draw would have been interesting as it would show if the ratings on the box were actually true. Then compare the thermals as what's not going into making the spindle turn is going to generate heat. The less heat the more mechanical power. Still this is once again something that's hard to measure reliable as a efficient fan can blow a lot of that heat out of the tool body.
      Finally put them in a jig with a constant friction to see what it takes to stall them and end it with a burnout test where they are left to run under load until they fail.
      My expectation would be that the Dremel should last the longest, simply because at that price the materials used should be better. However I'm in no way sure about that. A friend of mine worked sorting warranty claims for Bosch and Dremel tools a few years back. I think it was just after Bosch bought Dremel. And I remember him talking about the quality of Dremel tools in words that were not to flattering. I do remember him talking about a jeweler who complained about the runout of the chuck on a Dremel they'd bought. He measured it and had a chat with his contact at Dremel who just said that sure there were some runout, but these were cutting and polishing tools, not precision tools. If they wanted a power tool with a lot better tolerances then they would have pony up a lot more money and buy some other brand.
      I've used both Dremel and other rotary machines, and in general the Dremel machines feel better, both as in the materials used, the molding used and in the ergonomic design. However one machine from Black & Decker was actually better in the hand and more "agile" to work with. However it had pronounced runout making it eat cutoff disks and drill bits.
      Now what really makes a big difference is the tools used. And here I think Dremel has pretty good quality. They also have an incredible width of tools, but unfortunately they do tend to be very expensive.
      The cheap brands tends to sucketh badly when it comes to tool quality. Cheap cutoff discs are my pet pewee. The cheap stuff just tends to dissolve when the disc meats the metal. I've had cutoff disks that seemed to simply melt. I remember a cut that ate four of the cheap ones, not because they exploded but because they simply wasn't tough enough. At the same time a Dremel brand cutoff disk did a copy of that cut in one go with a good deal left after the cut was finished.
      Now there's something I would like to see tested. What brand of cutoff disks for these rotary tools last the longest, cuts the fastest, and at what cost?

  • @PatGilliland
    @PatGilliland 2 года назад +41

    I used to sell Dremel back in the day and the single biggest factor was the type of bearings in the tool. Bronze bushings are pretty good and are perfectly good for occasional use, but if you are using the tool day in and out, you want ball bearings or better.

    • @blackhawks81H
      @blackhawks81H 10 месяцев назад +1

      What in an application this size would be better than a ball bearing? Roller bearing?

    • @nate2838
      @nate2838 3 месяца назад

      Thanks for the information. I would say that the most important part of the tool, as far as longevity, is the bearings, hands down!

  • @mgsPWlover
    @mgsPWlover Год назад +5

    This is one of the best series that Donut does, and a big part of it is the AWESOME chemistry between Zach and Jeremiah.

  • @LazrCat0
    @LazrCat0 2 года назад +278

    Something I learned recently is that Dremels are actually VERY user serviceable which is a huge plus. Had one with a blown board and just bought the part for 6 bucks.

    • @moond7853
      @moond7853 2 года назад +29

      We bought ours I believe over 8yrs ago and still going strong. Lots of support and high quality parts on top of great warranty. Use the tool adequately for what it’s fcking designed to be used for and you’ll see years of usage. Sad to say, but too many people use tools for the wrong applications and then complain when it fails🤦‍♂️

    • @pashko90
      @pashko90 2 года назад +3

      Did try to get a rotor for mine, was been priced over 80% of the MSRP. Bought cheap tool after dremel, worked actually longer then a dremel does.

    • @_BLANK_BLANK
      @_BLANK_BLANK 2 года назад +4

      I dropped my battery powered dremel in the water bucket I keep below my belt grinder (so it is full of steel particles). I wouldn't turn on after that.
      So I just took it apart, cleaned everything out with qtips and rubbing alcohol, and it went back to working like it did before.

    • @devon8419
      @devon8419 2 года назад +1

      nice pfp

    • @N1ko0L
      @N1ko0L 2 года назад

      I mean the cheaper one too, but i only needed to remplace the brush over 6 years, and i use it a lot lot, and also drop it a lot lmao

  • @chrisgenovese8188
    @chrisgenovese8188 2 года назад +247

    ive had a rotary tool from walmart (hyper brand) for over 4 years, and it is still going strong. i personally feel these are one of those tools where you can get away with a cheaper brand but spend a bit more on the accessories.

    • @TheLexiconDevils
      @TheLexiconDevils 2 года назад +9

      Dremel accessories are over priced. The cheap tools fail in crucial points like switches, collet slips, speed controller. And most likely in the worst possible time.Like most tools If you use one everyday get a branded one. If you use it once a month get a cheap one … maybe.

    • @fatpad00
      @fatpad00 2 года назад +62

      @@TheLexiconDevils my policy is first buy of a tool, get the cheap one. If it breaks, then investing in the more expensive one is worth it. If it doesnt, well then you saved a bit of cash.

    • @thomashaley3830
      @thomashaley3830 2 года назад +8

      Had m6 dremels for 15 plus years and still Goin like new. Buy once cry once.

    • @dougevansdm
      @dougevansdm 2 года назад +5

      If it weren't for safety glasses, I would have lost an eye to a broken Chicago electric brand rotary bit... So I can agree lol though I wouldn't go lower than midrange for any tool you want to use frequently.

    • @Haywood-Jablomie
      @Haywood-Jablomie 2 года назад +1

      Hyper Tough is Test Rite brand. It's good stuff for excellent prices

  • @Seeker_CS
    @Seeker_CS 2 года назад +233

    I recently bought an Ultra Dremel, it's a beast and gets everything done for me.
    I feel like the drop test really depends on how the tools impacted. Bit first? Back first? Cord first? That definitely could change the damage done.
    Great video though!

    • @modelbreeze1916
      @modelbreeze1916 2 года назад +20

      Yeah I think there needs to be a more consistent test for that category. The Harbour freight landed flat on the side where as the others landed bit side first and took them out.

    • @raulotero1134
      @raulotero1134 2 года назад +2

      Also the heavier ones take a bigher hit

    • @kensmith3665
      @kensmith3665 2 года назад

      It was obvious the Harbour freight one landed on its bit and the real Dremel one landed exactly on its side…. Not a controlled variable at all…. So not scientifically valid…. Fun and hey…’MURICA I guess…. Low standards…. Sad.

    • @jadmann
      @jadmann 2 года назад

      I have the Dremel 395 @ 35,000 RPMs. It’s a beast!

    • @onepunch7632
      @onepunch7632 2 года назад +7

      Thought the same thing so I watched the drops in .25x speed. The 2 that broke landed head first. Harbor Freight landed on the side. I know these tests were more for humor than anything but I'd hate to see someone use these results as a way to determine which one to actually purchase. My Dremel works good as new and it's over 20 years old.

  • @chillbass2613
    @chillbass2613 2 года назад +166

    I feel like Jobe seems a lot happier as of late. Wishing you the best bud, we love all the new content ❤️

    • @theaterlightman89
      @theaterlightman89 2 года назад +84

      Probably because he's not rebuilding power steering racks ha

    • @cosmicfiber4
      @cosmicfiber4 2 года назад +3

      Does he have something going on? Hope he is okay if he does

    • @SmokeyBear464
      @SmokeyBear464 2 года назад +2

      Except for the new B2B isn’t as good as the old

  • @sawyermartin4434
    @sawyermartin4434 2 года назад +71

    That Chicago Electric one used to cost $9.99. I've had one for almost six years & beat the shit out of it. Never let me down! Awesome video guys. The drop test was the best part for sure. Haha.

    • @mikestoms4015
      @mikestoms4015 2 года назад +5

      It’s still 9.99. Only 20$ in commifornia

    • @veganpotterthevegan
      @veganpotterthevegan 2 года назад +1

      @@mikestoms4015 Shouldn't it be free there?

  • @kolegakolano
    @kolegakolano 4 дня назад

    Dremel car being a MAX-D is flawless

  • @wickitklown90
    @wickitklown90 2 года назад

    Man, I'd hate for the safety man to come by.
    You boys are doing Ricky proud.
    No gloves - prevent cuts
    No face shield - prevent facial damage
    No sleeves - prevents melt from piercing the skin.
    You guys are dope, but don't fuck around with your well being.
    Glad you guys were able to do so without any injuries.
    You did have ear pro.

  • @unifairsum21
    @unifairsum21 2 года назад +167

    If you get a Dremel definitely get the wireless one it's so worth it not having a cord to have to plug in plenty of power and battery life
    (Been using the Dremel 8220 for over 2-1/2 years every day multiple hours a day battery is still good been dropped multiple times no issues hella convenient for a job site with no power)

    • @cognizancecognizance8815
      @cognizancecognizance8815 2 года назад +2

      They finally invented wireless power.oh wait Tesla already did dat

    • @ardz.
      @ardz. 2 года назад +99

      @@cognizancecognizance8815 this is the most braindead comment i’ve seen this year

    • @roochiecooch
      @roochiecooch 2 года назад +26

      @@cognizancecognizance8815 even if you’re trying to do Sarcasm = failed. Funny = failed. Clever = failed. Troll = failed. Cordless tools have been around since before I was able to use them. And that’s longer than Tesla’s have been around. Shoot Elon was still working for PayPal and cordless tools were already being used. They weren’t very good and used nickel cadmium batteries I belibe but they were still there.

    • @antfarmer2227
      @antfarmer2227 2 года назад +10

      @@ardz. They aren’t truly incorrect. Nikola Tesla did invent a form of wireless electrical connection with the tesla coil however long ago, it’s just really inefficient. The comment is probably about elon but there’s still a chance it’s not.

    • @americansmark
      @americansmark 2 года назад +5

      Hell no. The batteries on those are garbage. I've had 4 go bad in 2 years. I threw my dremel away and bought a Dewalt version. Those batteries last.

  • @coltoncj1
    @coltoncj1 2 года назад +46

    One thing I would’ve loved to see is your subjective impressions. As a professional mechanic, most of my tool choices come down to how the tool feels. A harbor freight cheapy can usually get the job done, but when it comes to using it every day, the tools that feel the best make a big difference!

    • @Ange1ofD4rkness
      @Ange1ofD4rkness 2 года назад +6

      Can 2nd this.
      My uncle was telling me a story once about how cheaper brands, he starts feeling a vibration (like something wiggling loose kind).

    • @IllusionSector
      @IllusionSector 7 месяцев назад

      _most of my tool choices come down to how the tool feels_ - Even more importantly, how long it will last before you have to replace it! The issue of quality fade has gotten so infuriating that it seem as though merely expecting a product you bought to just work is too much to ask nowadays.

  • @00Gizmo
    @00Gizmo 2 года назад +64

    I think i'm still gonna stick with my Dremel. Though now I have a very concrete reason to NOT drop it off the top of a ladder.

    • @shaunbeakley348
      @shaunbeakley348 2 года назад +9

      The harbor freight hit on the side, and the Dremel hit on the chuck. So, just don't drop it on the chuck, I guess

    • @pking6021
      @pking6021 2 года назад +7

      Is your concrete reason a concrete floor?

    • @fasfgasdfagadsf
      @fasfgasdfagadsf 2 года назад +2

      I am disappointed there was no actual torture test.

    • @jonathanthomasjohn8348
      @jonathanthomasjohn8348 2 года назад +4

      @@fasfgasdfagadsf the part where they hold the tools’ families hostage is on the donut underground

    • @readmyusernamecauseitssoreally
      @readmyusernamecauseitssoreally 2 года назад +1

      @@fasfgasdfagadsf I mean, I don't think it would be possible to drown these tools like a drill, a drill is much more durable because they're meant to drown to do underwater jobs, not much of a reason to Dremel underwater. And if there's water near your workstation, thats a problem

  • @patrickduclos-knott1864
    @patrickduclos-knott1864 Год назад +3

    That mural at the end looks amazing. Kudos to Riley, that’s some serious talent.

  • @jasonnelms4556
    @jasonnelms4556 Год назад +14

    I have a different model Amazon special, it's a little beefier than the one y'all show. Honestly, having had a Dremel at work, it does the job just as good for what I use it for at a fraction of the cost.

    • @WayneWerner
      @WayneWerner Год назад +1

      That one is built on the same mold my first dremel came out of

  • @Dirkietje8
    @Dirkietje8 2 года назад +16

    I was looking for a Dremel 4300 at first, but for Christmas the company I work at gave a giftcard for a site that had all kinds of bullshit. But they also had a SKIL rotary tool, 1/3 the price of the Dremel and honestly just as practical. For most rotary tools it's better to go cheaper on the tool and a bit more expensive on the working bits like grind wheels and drills.

  • @DroneDriveBy
    @DroneDriveBy 2 года назад +35

    We need a 1/2 Impact test!! it would be SOOOO helpful for any mechanics here (me being one)

    • @srgbobbert
      @srgbobbert 2 года назад +8

      check out the tourque test channel

    • @nrvsauto8990
      @nrvsauto8990 2 года назад +5

      Torque test channel

    • @JohnJames.
      @JohnJames. 2 года назад

      Heres your sticker

    • @DrBonesFolo
      @DrBonesFolo 2 года назад

      They did one like 3 month ago

    • @DroneDriveBy
      @DroneDriveBy 2 года назад

      @@DrBonesFolo That was a 3/8 drive impact test, I want to see a 1/2 drive impact test.

  • @hunzhurte
    @hunzhurte 2 года назад +1

    Donut Media is the only channel where I don't skip the sponsor placements.

  • @douglasboyle6544
    @douglasboyle6544 2 года назад +5

    Harbor freight makes decent tools for non heavy duty, non pro use. If it's something you've got to stake a livelihood on I go for higher quality, but if it's something for the home shop or infrequent use, it'll usually do the job just fine.
    Also that mural looks sharp, your friend of the channel did a great job!

  • @ryangrissom3532
    @ryangrissom3532 2 года назад +72

    Every dremel I've owned has always gone the same way. Molten black plastic shoots out the sides. I always thought dremel was the cheap tool

    • @TonysTechAndCars
      @TonysTechAndCars 2 года назад +4

      Thats because it is a cheap tool with a high price tag on it. useless

    • @furyofgungnir
      @furyofgungnir 2 года назад +3

      I also hate dremel is a forced name for all rotary tool. Dremel is just the crap expensive brand. I've bought chinese rotary tools for $10 that still work whereas the only dremel I purchased barely survived 5 months usage.

    • @keeganhache6667
      @keeganhache6667 2 года назад +3

      @@furyofgungnir yeah but I use a cheap one not the real dreamel because like you say they are over priced for what I’m doing.
      The tool it self don’t suck and they have a use. The thing is you can’t use it for the wrong job or else it will overheat or break. Like for example if you were to use a dreamel tool to grind down flat bar steel it would not work the best, for that you could use a angle grinder, or something with more power.

    • @Jacobbunt
      @Jacobbunt 2 года назад +2

      I had the exact same problem. My first one lasted for a decade but then the next one lasted 4 days sending black plastic everywhere.

    • @IrocZIV
      @IrocZIV 2 года назад

      Mines been good for years now. I wonder what you use them for that they melt on you. Mine gets hot sometimes, but I just make sure to give it some air, and not cover the vents when I use it.

  • @idontneedthis66
    @idontneedthis66 2 года назад +26

    I think the takeaway is if you use a rotary tool daily or at least weekly, then the Dremel is the one to get for longevity and ability, but if you're a hobbyist who only occasionally needs one, then the harbor freight is perfectly fine. I'd also have liked to see a different durability test where you turn them on at the same time, run them for say an hour, and see if they shutoff before and if not what temps the body of the tool are at when it's done. The original Dremel was notorious for getting hot in your hand with long use, though the new ones like the 4300 never seem to have this issue but imagine the HF or Amazon one might.
    Good stuff as always.

  • @ranwolf7650
    @ranwolf7650 2 года назад +25

    I have a cordless rotary tool branded "Hyper Tough", cost about $35. So far, it lasted longer than the $100 Dremel I had to replace.

    • @Haywood-Jablomie
      @Haywood-Jablomie 2 года назад +2

      Hyper Tough is the Walmart version of Test Rite brand tools... they are a low cost, medium quality brand that are definitely durable for home projects. It's worth your money. Great products in my opinion

    • @Honeypot-x9s
      @Honeypot-x9s 2 года назад +1

      I hate the feel in hand of most hyper tough tools and maybe my use cases are a bit too much for it being as I have to maintain 120 acres of land and 15 dedicated off-road vehicles for playing and maintaining it so every tool I invest in gets heavy use and some abuse.
      I like a bargain as much as next person but apart from their pry bars at the local Walmart they offer nothing I can rely on. I have a a battery powered dremel I got a few years ago and I’m surprised as much as next person that it still functions today because I don’t treat it well I treat it like a tool so usually gets stored in my shed outdoors in a bucket for weeks or even months at a time.

    • @jpowens2253
      @jpowens2253 2 года назад

      @@Honeypot-x9s I've had the same problem. I've tried using "hyper tough" drills, rotary tools, and others from Walmart. They're not bad if you only do small things around the house but when I've tried them on more demanding projects the shortcomings are very apparent.

  • @EpicAwesomesauce
    @EpicAwesomesauce 2 года назад +1

    Whoever thought of using the nail polish emoji 💅 for the polishing section is a genius. I laughed so hard when I saw it.

  • @undissatisfied1557
    @undissatisfied1557 2 года назад +10

    The Amazon one looks like a direct clone of an older dremel. My dad has a name brand one that looks almost exactly like it.

    • @gromitdodge
      @gromitdodge 2 года назад +1

      Yeah it looks like a clone of my 30 year old Dremel.

    • @gambit3le
      @gambit3le 2 года назад

      It definitely does.

    • @Tippman7641
      @Tippman7641 2 года назад

      I have that one and it also sounds EXACTLY like the older Dremel as well

  • @feardominique
    @feardominique 2 года назад +5

    This is my new favorite series by you guys. So interesting. So informative. Keep them coming 💖
    Zack and Jeremiah together is absolutely hysterical.

  • @demoteam9692
    @demoteam9692 2 года назад +7

    I’m so happy to see Tool Party get another episode! And a season!
    Absolutely excited to see what else is to come!

  • @bam-bo
    @bam-bo 2 года назад +1

    good god, that mural is so ridiculously good.

  • @PresidentSquigglyMiggly
    @PresidentSquigglyMiggly 2 года назад +1

    if I end up buying a Dremel I guarantee I'll use it mostly to pull toy cars around 😂

  • @fausch
    @fausch 2 года назад +4

    This might be my favorite donut program of all time. Absolutely love the concept, and the chemistry of Jobe and
    Jeremiah is off the charts.

  • @readmyusernamecauseitssoreally
    @readmyusernamecauseitssoreally 2 года назад +10

    The thing I like about Dremel is there's different styles, there's the pen, the mobile and corded regular version, along with so many helpful adapters. You're paying for the name on one hand, but the other is you get a really nice useful tool from a really great company. Dremel any day

  • @hummerbr41
    @hummerbr41 6 месяцев назад

    I CACKLED when you said if it runs of gasoline 😂😂😂

  • @Smasher-Devourer
    @Smasher-Devourer 2 года назад

    No rice cooker is complete without the "Certified eBay parts" sticker.

  • @Jhihmoac
    @Jhihmoac 2 года назад +9

    I would take the name I can trust... Dremel.... Especially for polish, detail, and grinding down sharp edges when working with light sheet metal... However, for any heavier sheet metal or automotive applications, I would probably go with an air powered grinder or air powered die grinder...

  • @jeffrey88888
    @jeffrey88888 2 года назад +6

    The Amazon one has been working great for me. I've used it many many times and it still runs strong. It also comes with the flex cable and bits.

  • @jonrachy
    @jonrachy 2 года назад

    The gambler 500 episode was one of my favorite episodes of all time. You have to go back! More off road!! Ivan Stewart episode! Let's go!

  • @beans9647
    @beans9647 Год назад

    9:56 - Thought he asked "Are you full of shit?" and got a proud yes as a reply

  • @fuerlingerp
    @fuerlingerp 2 года назад +8

    I bought a Dremel recently, which broke after only an afternoon of polishing aluminium.
    BUT to Dremel's credit, i sent it back to them, they fixed it for free and it has been going strong ever since, which probably wouldn't have happened with a cheaper one.

  • @BrennanVP
    @BrennanVP 2 года назад +3

    Normally I go for the budget friendly options that are just as good, but one thing to remember with the Dremel: harbor freight and Amazon noname electric motors have a spotty at best track record. But I've been using the same Dremel for about 16 years now and the only change since it was new is a few grease stains.

  • @DrEtzor
    @DrEtzor 2 года назад

    Grave Digger, never expected to see one of the most recognisable monster trucks from the early 2000s as a toy racing against other ones with power of dremels in a Donut video about Dremels.

  • @jameznm
    @jameznm 2 года назад +6

    I'm glad you guys touched on this, I've owned several Dremel branded rotary tools, and I've got to say i feel let down by them, they all failed just outside the 1 year warranty period, I'd say i may have used it twice a month for light duty like cutting an m6-m8 bolt. I was so fed up with it i started shopping around and i found one for sale at 1/3 of the price with a 3 year warranty rather like your $40 tool you demonstrated. So it's been nearly 3 years since i bought it and it's still working but it is showing signs of wear, that's gotta be a win. Thanks for doing this :)

    • @whitechris720
      @whitechris720 2 года назад

      Dremels that I have purchased seen to heat up under a load to the point you need gloves to hold them.

  • @MrFastFox666
    @MrFastFox666 2 года назад +6

    I had the HyperTough tool, which looks just like the Harbor Freight one. It worked well, but after about a year of very light use the little button detent wore out so I can't tighten anything onto the collet. I do make sure to only press the button with the tool stopped. On the other hand, a 20 year old Dremel 100 still works great, but it's a single speed.
    You can get away with a cheap tool, but cheap bits and accessories do make a big difference, they suck big time, get the name brand ones.

  • @conneru2960
    @conneru2960 2 года назад +12

    The quality of harbor freight for the price point always genuinely surprises me.

    • @murrybrasell4657
      @murrybrasell4657 Год назад

      it's bad, I had one

    • @patty109109
      @patty109109 Год назад

      I buy at HF for things I won’t use often and that should they fail (e.g. ratchet straps) there won’t be a catastrophe.

  • @davidbrown-vd5wo
    @davidbrown-vd5wo 2 года назад

    4:45 is a great lesson on why a dif gear upgrade is a good idea

  • @tommyhurst90
    @tommyhurst90 Год назад

    I seriously thought that mural donut painting was a real ripped up crumbled sign 😂🤦

  • @thatautogarage3644
    @thatautogarage3644 2 года назад +9

    I love the concept of these videos but the test ware wildly inconsistent. The drag race should've use the exact same trucks (maybe just pained different) so the weight and drag is the same. Same with the durability test, Could've set up a rig that dropped from the same exact height and the same exact angle.

    • @mehGyver
      @mehGyver 2 года назад +1

      This isn't Project Farm. LOL You can only expect so much from this crew.

    • @thatautogarage3644
      @thatautogarage3644 2 года назад

      @@mehGyver Project Farm is a great channel, with loads of useful information. I understand where you’re coming from but side by side comparisons shouldn’t be done if not done correctly.

    • @mehGyver
      @mehGyver 2 года назад +1

      @@thatautogarage3644 I agree whole heartedly. My comment wasn’t aimed at yours as much as it was to sarcastically mock these clowns attempt to do tool comparisons. They’re not in it for the data and results. They’re in it only for views. So I don’t expect anything of substance from them.

    • @thatautogarage3644
      @thatautogarage3644 2 года назад +1

      @@mehGyver That I completely understand, I do enjoy watching them for some reason even though the tend to get info wrong across all the different video types. Some they nail though and it's very entertaining.

  • @debeeriz
    @debeeriz 2 года назад +1

    i bought a dremel and a cheap kit the tools are about the same but the stones that come with them are where the difference between them really shows up, the cheaper stones wear down to quickly

  • @ARKSYN
    @ARKSYN 2 года назад

    I feel like Jeremiah and I would get along really well. His sense of humor and mannerisms are identical to mine

  • @tachikoma82
    @tachikoma82 2 года назад +19

    Dremel branded stuff is already fairly competitively priced, so I think it's one of those tools where it's worth the name brand.

    • @garettjohnson2234
      @garettjohnson2234 2 года назад +1

      competitive? over 5x price of harbor freight

    • @czattew
      @czattew 2 года назад

      @@garettjohnson2234 isn't that pretty much the same for any Harbour freight tool compared to the professional grade tools available. Even if the Dremel is 5x the cost having the parts readily available locally, yet alone to order online confidently. And in my experience most Harbour freight tools or equivalent will work pretty close to a professional grade tool. The biggest difference is after a year or two of use multiple times a week my Dremel is exactly the same as the day I bought it (with the exception of scuffs and whatnot on the tool itself) I can buy replacement discs/attachments and most basic replacement parts at the wholesaler I already purchase material from vs. Having to make annother stop. That alone is worth the price difference. On top of that I abuse my dremel alot, and it rarely bogs down on power without intentially pushing it too far. Same idea as angle grinders. I have a couple that are Harbour freight equivalent I keep at home for when I use a cut off wheel, grinding wheel, and wire cup, without having to keep switching as a convenience. But I keep my milwalkee cordless grinder in my work van to use daily, it cost as much as 3 cheap ones, but I never feel like it will leave me stranded on a job

    • @ZERONEINNOVATIONS
      @ZERONEINNOVATIONS 2 года назад

      I have dremel 4300 and HF cheapest $10 one. When something happens to the Dremel while I'm using this tool, I can think that the way I'm using is wrong, not the tool. This is great time and headache saver. HF $10 one is junk. It wobbles, vibrates, low torque, terrible.

  • @oddojaggins
    @oddojaggins 2 года назад +8

    This matches my experience with rotary tools, had both that Dremal and also have the hypertough(walmart) one that was around $20. While I agree dremels cutting wheels and such are better I use them on the Hypertough and had similar result. Cut off so many rusted bolts on my wife's car

    • @StressfulMusicOfficial
      @StressfulMusicOfficial 2 года назад

      Thinking about grabbing the hyper tough cus I'd be using it for more like the vents and body design. Figure it would do the job nicely, specially since polishing seemed fine enough for whatever i'm trying to clean up that someone didn't take care of.

    • @thespacedpirate
      @thespacedpirate 2 года назад

      I bought a hypertough 4" grinder and I beat the absolute piss out of the poor thing. The $20 I spent 3 years ago has definitely felt better than the time I $120 and broke it shortly after.

  • @knightwalkr
    @knightwalkr 2 года назад +7

    For the durability test I’d like to have seen them all turned on and ran until failure

  • @JetFalco
    @JetFalco 2 года назад +2

    God I love this series. You guys are just having a helluva time out there.

  • @revive5
    @revive5 9 месяцев назад

    This video should get a "Tool Grammy".

  • @brewsum
    @brewsum 2 года назад +4

    I’ve been using rotary tools for years. The quality and longevity of my Dremel is by far the best. I wish I could attach a picture of my 20 yr old Dremel because it looks WELL used and still functions today. Way better than the year or so I get out of those cheap ones.

  • @michaelloucks4292
    @michaelloucks4292 2 года назад +7

    I'd love to see torque wrenches. You guys did impact drills already but I would like to know if getting a cheap torque wrench is just as good as an expensive one.

    • @TheLexiconDevils
      @TheLexiconDevils 2 года назад

      Project Farm did a recent test on torque wrenches. Depends on your application but generally no don’t buy a cheap torque wrench. Buy a mid tier brand or used high end & get it calibrated

    • @michaelloucks4292
      @michaelloucks4292 2 года назад

      Interesting. What qualifies as a mid-tier brand though.

  • @PinkuStyle
    @PinkuStyle 2 года назад

    Dude that drag race was awesome

  • @SlipperywhenRhett
    @SlipperywhenRhett 2 года назад

    I taught the grandchildren of the guy who invented the Dremel. He had long since sold the company and passed away, but they were pretty cool kids. Two of the three passed away in their twenties quite suddenly, and I haven't kept up with the grandson. Sweet kids

  • @iamchaunceman
    @iamchaunceman Год назад +7

    dremel is like coke, its the name of the type of tool now,,that being said, sounds like the others have almost caught up, and being they are usually less than half the price i think that makes them the better value. Like someone said, if its your lively hood day to day, go with the dremel, but for just about anyone else in any situation, walmart or harbor freight ( hyper tough, chicago ) give you the same results and if they do break, buy another. Youd have to break several to end up spending more than with teh big D!

  • @bruhnt5063
    @bruhnt5063 2 года назад +4

    Day 340 of asking Donut to bring old B2B back

  • @cracklecracklebaybay5612
    @cracklecracklebaybay5612 2 года назад

    I enjoy these knuckleheads together so much I rewatch these every now and then 😆

  • @g.wheels
    @g.wheels 2 года назад

    Cool seeing the OW Pints hiding there! Love my Pint.

  • @HeyPlebes
    @HeyPlebes 2 года назад

    This was waaaay better than it should’ve been.

  • @chrism5732
    @chrism5732 2 года назад +1

    Noah needs to sand down and polish those stang headlights!!

  • @Valorsphere
    @Valorsphere Год назад

    Man i look up how to change one thing on my motorcycle, next thing i know these guys are in my recommendations and im binge watching tool comparison videos at 3 A.M

  • @tri-statedualsport4880
    @tri-statedualsport4880 Год назад

    The drag race had me rolling 😆

  • @jimr9499
    @jimr9499 Год назад

    Jobe and Jer are my favorite part of Donut. So funny lol.

  • @smac919
    @smac919 2 года назад +1

    Ive got 2 Dremels. One is from like 1997, and looks exactly like the Harbor Freight one, and one is from 2017.. I consistently use the old one over the new one unless I need to use one of the newer attachments.

  • @diamondflaw
    @diamondflaw Год назад +2

    I use one of the old nail e-file that my wife used (she’s a nail tech) and it’s bloody brilliant with solid speed control, good torque, dust and solvent resistant… but not low cost if it hadn’t already been a business expense… about $400

  • @anttitenhunen4725
    @anttitenhunen4725 2 года назад +1

    The only thing I go for Dremel over these is the feature that Dremel can keep the rpm constant and apply automatically more torque if the load increases. Others will just drop the rmp if there is too much load applied and it will be a constant annoyance to increase rpm as it drops and prevents low rpm stuff all together.

  • @savthmaall
    @savthmaall 2 года назад

    If you're using cutters, grinders and sanders all manufactured by "Dremel" than regardless of the rotary tool Dremel is the clear winner every time.

  • @kevinhorrell4144
    @kevinhorrell4144 2 года назад

    The truck race was an awesome speed test.

  • @lampy5490
    @lampy5490 7 месяцев назад

    "A multi-tip process" is exactly what your mum said.

  • @late.student
    @late.student 2 года назад

    Whoever did those graphics listing the specs and differences of each model visually did a really good job!

  • @jamesstinebaker1290
    @jamesstinebaker1290 2 года назад

    This is too pure y'all are a dynamic duo

  • @light-master
    @light-master 2 года назад +1

    Timed challenged like cutting off the bolts, time should only count while actively using the tool, NOT while transitioning between bolts or changing the wheels. All 3 should have finished all the bolts

  • @quentinbonafede4237
    @quentinbonafede4237 Год назад

    "Speaking of tools, you're gonna see us-"

  • @barrothontherocks3325
    @barrothontherocks3325 2 года назад

    the drop tests had big infomercial energy

  • @snow_bound266
    @snow_bound266 2 года назад

    And the casual walk is why we go cordless

  • @nate2838
    @nate2838 3 месяца назад +1

    With these tools, built quality matters. If you will be using it a lot, go Dremel, and get the size / body appropriate to your needs. You can even get a $10 one at HF, however, the bearings suck, it wasn't long before the bearings were loud and had a little wobble. So light occasional, sure, prioritize price heavy and regular, definitely build quality.
    The drop test was NOT consistent, they didn't ensure they all landed the same. HF landed perfectly flat, Amazon one landed collet down, and so did the Dremel.

    • @Thesaurcery4U2C
      @Thesaurcery4U2C 3 месяца назад

      For sure. If you're going to use any tool more than a couple dozen times, it's always worth it to go with a well-known industry leader.
      If you need to do something once or twice and probably never use it again, that is the market that the $20 ones are there for.
      There are unknown named drills and impacts that might have a hair more power or speed than the big three right out of the box, but there is no chance in hell that they would operate 5 days a week for 7 to 10 years.

  • @japaNebraska
    @japaNebraska 2 года назад

    can confirm, I had that same dremel and the spindle got bent from a year of normal use. Replaced it with a $16 el-cheapo and it does everything I need.

  • @danielgloates5903
    @danielgloates5903 2 года назад

    Honestly my favorite series as of right now

  • @Honeypot-x9s
    @Honeypot-x9s 2 года назад

    I have a battery powered Dremel I treated myself to a few years ago that’s survived a lot of abuse but keeps on keeping on. I do have cheap rotary tools and angle grinders as well, a bucket of them in my shed actually. They get the job done but I prefer the results and consistency of the Dremel

  • @taylormangan7269
    @taylormangan7269 Год назад +1

    Y’all should do vice grips!

  • @Talestrailsandtaverns
    @Talestrailsandtaverns 2 года назад +1

    I still have the same Dremel from when I was a teenager, so from around 1995. I still use it, and it still works great.

    • @Talestrailsandtaverns
      @Talestrailsandtaverns 2 года назад +1

      the goxawee actually looks identical to my almost 30 year old dremel. lol

  • @tazqzy
    @tazqzy 2 года назад

    I do wood carving and have used Dremels for years, high loads, bearing failure happens about 6 months, got a B&D RTX about 35 dollars, still going strong a year and a half later, I not a huge
    B&D fan, but I'm sold on the RTX

  • @ColeyDuncan
    @ColeyDuncan 2 года назад +1

    I bought a rotary tool from the dollar store for like $10 about 5 or so years ago, and it's still kicking. It feels quality and gets the job done just as well as a Dremel, which I figured I'd be buying within a few months of buying the cheap one.

  • @JustStopPlayingGames
    @JustStopPlayingGames 2 года назад

    I love this series so much. Donut doesn't miss, bro.

  • @JECHOE
    @JECHOE Год назад

    man i never comment on y’all videos but i just be watching 2 or 3 videos every night before i sleep n i gotta say you kings and hoonigan are the best channel for the car community there’s no debate about that i don’t not care .from all from old vs new hi vs low cars cheap vs expensive to the vlogs bungalow dumb shit n testing it out to the old up top speed vid when y’all would break down the newest thing or just make a video on a car that just came out i can go go on n on just like y’all do with the vids but keep up the work boys love the high low car stuff and cheap vs expensive

  • @shaderblue2555
    @shaderblue2555 2 года назад

    My dad bought me the harbor freight one for my birthday and 2 years later it is still going. I've come to understand that the quality of the tips matters more than what tool you use.

  • @andrewnaessig2516
    @andrewnaessig2516 2 года назад

    I burned up a $99 Dremel almost 18 years ago, but the cheap black and decker one I had to buy to replace it did what the Dremel couldn’t and has been with me ever since still working hard

  • @imperlast2
    @imperlast2 2 года назад

    That broken rotary tool looked like a drone motor

  • @anthonymarino4260
    @anthonymarino4260 Год назад

    LONG TERM. DREMEL HANDS DOWN. PIECE OF MIND

  • @chazwallace5347
    @chazwallace5347 2 года назад

    have a Dremel and used to have one of those cheap $20 ones. had to cut wheel studs and alternated between them to avoid burning the motor up. the cheap one's internals simply couldn't handle the torture after a while and literally tried to catch fire. aside from the large amount of smoke and it stopped working, the plastic warped from the heat. however the old Dremel I kept pushing and it kept on going. still use it now.

  • @Teatur_
    @Teatur_ 2 года назад

    I love the way you guys always pretend like you’re innocently passing tools to each other while you drop them