LAOS - The MOST HORRIFIC TRAGEDY of the SECRET WAR on LAOS

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  • Опубликовано: 10 июн 2023
  • They farmed by night as to not be seen.. This is the story of the tragic end to 374 civilians just trying to survive. The war disaster that is Tham Piu Cave, Muang Kham Laos.
    LAOS - The MOST HORRIFIC TRAGEDY of the SECRET WAR on LAOS
    For more than 4 years the farmers and villagers in this area of Muang Kham Laos shelter in a huge cave from the raging war and the US campaign of carpet bombing huge areas of Laos. They farmed by night to not be seen and hid away in day light hours.. This is the story of the tragic end to 374 civilians trying to survive.
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  • @NowinLao
    @NowinLao  Год назад +8

    Here is the story of Tham Piew Cave and of the boy who survived, Nang Boua
    www.artseverywhere.ca/the-secret-war-in-laos-tragedy-at-tham-piew-cave/

  • @costasworldofmusicmemories5792
    @costasworldofmusicmemories5792 Год назад +13

    Words alone cannot explain this Horrific Tragedy . This story needs to be told. Todd, you told it quite well. Our Hearts and Prayers are with their descendants 🙏❤🙏 Jim and Harriet

    • @blasblasblas2094
      @blasblasblas2094 Год назад +1

      The Vietnam War, the CIA and the American government. Any guilt seeing this now?

  • @byt290
    @byt290 Год назад +10

    An army guy said to me. We never should have been in Vietnam (his words). The French started all the trouble. Old men sending younger men to war. There are atrociticies in every war

  • @jordiking2481
    @jordiking2481 Год назад +8

    Todd.... somewhere someone knows who pulled the trigger...a very moving sad vlog... yes you can feel the energy... well explained....

    • @ewengillies9826
      @ewengillies9826 Год назад +2

      Just one of the horrors of war. Being a US pilot that name will never be forthcoming I'd bet. So sad to hear after what they'd already endured. Bushyboy Oz.

  • @philllynch3265
    @philllynch3265 Год назад +13

    Hi Todd. We visited the cave a couple of trips ago. It was a very eerie and sobering experience. The yanks have a lot to answer for.

    • @Swaggerlot
      @Swaggerlot Год назад +6

      Specifically Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon.

    • @p.abo.1
      @p.abo.1 Год назад +1

      @@Swaggerlot Let's not forget that Proto-Nazi, Henry Kissinger, who is still around...

    • @Swaggerlot
      @Swaggerlot Год назад

      @@p.abo.1 I hadn't, just omitted to mention him. After all he wouldn't have had the power he had without delegation.

  • @familytabrizi76
    @familytabrizi76 Год назад +8

    Knowing Americans for his attack surly that pilot have recieved an medal 🏅 of honor , the army officer whom shoot down Iranian passenger airbus killing all the passengers over Persian Gulf did receive his medal.😢

  • @GardenTronics
    @GardenTronics Год назад +3

    🙏🙏🙏thank you for sharing! Todd, you and Neenee be safe venturing around those parts. A lot of XOs unaccounted for.

  • @graemeaylward8313
    @graemeaylward8313 Год назад +7

    Such terrible and often unreported events took place during that war and you are right to tell the story as the world needs never to forget the horror and futility of war. Not an easy place to visit. Thanks Todd for taking the time and effort to go there and pay respects on behalf of all those who are unable to do so themselves. God bless you and NeeNee 😀❤🙏

    • @chansaechao79
      @chansaechao79 Год назад +1

      I was born in a refugee camp from that time period. My mom, late uncle, brother and myself immigrated here in 1980. My mom and uncle were from Xieng Khouang, Laos

    • @graemeaylward8313
      @graemeaylward8313 Год назад +3

      @@chansaechao79 I am so glad that you and some of your family made it out from such horror and have made new lives. We must keep telling the world how wars destroy lives and aim, hope and pray for peace in the world 🙏😃❤️

  • @Jordy120
    @Jordy120 Год назад +4

    Hi Todd. Thanks for sharing these mate. It's so important that these things are not forgotten. Cheers.

  • @harryfredricks3627
    @harryfredricks3627 Год назад +7

    An unknown story that many of us Aussies (and other westerners) have no idea of - My visit to Saigon was an eye opener - your trips and dialog equally so. THANK YOU

  • @robertburnett6348
    @robertburnett6348 Год назад +3

    I was in the war. And a few years ago visited Laos and Cambodia. The people are so kind and generous. We wouldn't be. Remember our behavior after 9/11. But we support similar things in the world today. But our media is quiet. Thanks

    • @NowinLao
      @NowinLao  Год назад +1

      A very good point Robert, thank you. I have wondered this many times, if some country had done the same to Australia or the US. Would we be so forgiving moving forward..?

    • @pedobiden8154
      @pedobiden8154 Год назад

      @@NowinLao 9 11 was done by your own goverment, alongside mossad.

  • @brucesieverts1236
    @brucesieverts1236 Год назад +11

    and they wonder why so many people hate Americans. it was pretty much the same all over south east Asia. innocent people going about their daily lives and become just another victim of political bullshit. I'm glad that you are taking the time to document it all and tell the rest of the world how it was.

    • @arvindkatiyar526
      @arvindkatiyar526 Год назад

      There is a saying politicians have a very good memory but people have a weak memory Americans are everywhere in Vietnam Laos and they are welcome politicians can change thinking question is why is everyone against China is it politics ?

    • @pulsatingsausageboy2076
      @pulsatingsausageboy2076 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@arvindkatiyar526The Chinese have plenty of their own dirty laundry. For example they were involved in this particular war just like the Americans were. They also invaded part of Vietnam in the late 70’s. And today they’re bullying and threatening their neighbors like Taiwan, Vietnam, Philippines etc.. on a daily basis. Not saying America doesn’t deserve some of the criticism they get but the Chinese aren’t saints. And while America was involved in this over 50 years ago they have long since left these people alone while China is still menacing the people in this part of the world to this day. So the memories of such are much more recent while most people in Laos weren’t even alive when this happened.

    • @arvindkatiyar526
      @arvindkatiyar526 10 месяцев назад

      @pulsatingsausageboy2076 Americans still cant leave the word WAR they see war everywhere,they need to mend their problems shootings in scools in open spaces police brutality,homelessness is on the rise everyone is becoming zombie, what is Biden called sleepwalker

  • @_Alfa.Bravo_
    @_Alfa.Bravo_ Год назад +6

    Peace for Asia and to the world

  • @sherylgergen6672
    @sherylgergen6672 Год назад +2

    There are no words when you realize the evil that man can do to another. An ocean of tears. Thank you for telling us this important story. Peace and love🙏

  • @stlev99
    @stlev99 Год назад

    Very moving and so well done

  • @matthewxiong984
    @matthewxiong984 Год назад +4

    love the history !!!

  • @donbrashsux
    @donbrashsux Год назад +4

    That’s a very incredible sad story.. what can anyone who’s a human being say .. no words

  • @VICSWEB1
    @VICSWEB1 Год назад +5

    bloodthirsty septic tanks. they've been doing same same for 22 years.

  • @arvindkatiyar526
    @arvindkatiyar526 Год назад

    Nice video like the fact that one can gain knowledge from many things that not everyone knows about

  • @pedvannasith231
    @pedvannasith231 Год назад

    Thank you so much Todd.

  • @davesbikelife
    @davesbikelife Год назад

    Wow Todd, that is a deep story. Very interesting but sad at the same time 🙏

  • @tobyjugg6202
    @tobyjugg6202 11 месяцев назад

    Neenee could write a best seller mate. She has done really well to grow up being able to hadle the terrors of her past, even tho her face gave the pain away when she prayed and just after - what a fine woman.

  • @assamnewwaz2131
    @assamnewwaz2131 Год назад

    Your speech is very nice

  • @fuggly007
    @fuggly007 Год назад +1

    Thanks for that , I never got there but now I see.

  • @webbtony77
    @webbtony77 Год назад +8

    Its so sad, also so moving, to think that human beings can do that to so many people. Yes, I understand its war, and what is it good for “Absolutely Nothing”

    • @NowinLao
      @NowinLao  Год назад +1

      Frankie says.. NO MORE

  • @antruok4950
    @antruok4950 Год назад

    Horrible …… so hard to comprehend …… Very well told Todd …….. we recognise the sadness &
    Thank you for sharing 🙏

    • @NowinLao
      @NowinLao  Год назад +1

      Thanks ANT hope you're doing well mate

  • @mtnmandeluxe5429
    @mtnmandeluxe5429 Год назад +8

    Brother Todd,,,as you know,,I'm pretty well read about the Vietnam/American war and the secret war and Air America. This particular incidence. I'd never heard about or if i had,,it was so horrible that it flew the memory coop. It is astounding and sickening that people have no better way of waging war than ever. Ive followed the Ukraine war fairly closely and similiar things are still going. My gawd,,,who blows up a dam at the edge of a city. I saw today that 750,000 people are very soon going to be fighting for drinking water. There have been thousands of civilians killed. The common thread is that those incidents are orchestrated by insane people. Putin and Moonboy from Korea are both insane. Your evil empire neighbor isn't insane,,he's cold ,,calculating. Probably already has plans drawn up. Id classify most running the secret war as mentally touched,,the old nazi,,Kissinger and others in the CIA and other spy agencies were just crazy,,win at all cost'ers. The guys who were on the ground so to speak were purposely drug addled,,so that their consciences were repressed. I had a good friend that was involved in the mildest way,,on a ship in the South China sea,,,but 40 years after,,he was still wracked with guilt. He had become a very spiritual person and for him,,that helped immensely . Who knows what the pilot was thinking,,he probably saw movement and thought he was being targeted with a rocket launcher. They also had it pounded into their heads that leaders were hiding in the caves. Collateral damage is a horrific thing,,but its been happening for several thousand years. Who knows,,maybe the pilot has toured Lao and Vietnam,,talked with survivors,,made his peace,,or maybe he was blown out of the sky his very next mission. Crazy shit happens during every operation ran by the Spooks! If i ever am blessed by making a trip to Lao,,I want you to take me 3 serious places,,,,the Plain of Jars,,,the cave complex that the Pathet Lao operated out of,,,and this one! I want to pray and offer my respect. After that ,the fun commences,,,the school and that brilliant young dude teaching English,,,a Rado full of kanom for the kids,, and a float trip between the (God)dam(ns). This video was brilliant! Thank you for the enlightenment! Be safe,,Ttyl,,,Marlon

    • @keithtulip4140
      @keithtulip4140 11 месяцев назад

      I cannot imagine how Laos and Vietnamese people mentally survived the terror and mindless killing that was the Vietnam War.
      It was not and should never have attracted American interference. The American existence in this war was nothing short of criminal. Locals are still discovering unexploded American bombs. This story should or perhaps must be referred to the war crimes tribunal.
      My heart bleeds.

  • @ottusa4823
    @ottusa4823 Год назад

    Thank you Todd. 😢

  • @geraldtabu-or2jr
    @geraldtabu-or2jr Год назад +1

    Sometimes if a war drags on and the local population is perceived to be supporting the enemy sometimes soldiers are not sympathetic to civilians.sometimes it's accidental sometimes deliberate.our soldiers in somalia talk of the same.

  • @Bad_Karma1968
    @Bad_Karma1968 Год назад

    Todd been a while mate
    This needed to be told 😢

  • @ramblingnomad
    @ramblingnomad Год назад

    Thanks for showing us around that site , Todd. Brought back memories of those years at a time when we had the "birthday raffle" conscription call up system, it was a pretty ugly time in many ways. Cheers from Adelaide, mate, Thanks for the videos...really enjoy seeing the human side of life.

  • @colmhaughey7001
    @colmhaughey7001 Год назад +3

    What a tragic story so sad it’s a fact that Laos is most heavily bombed Country in the World per capita records show more than 2 million tonnes of bombs where dropped between 1964 and 1973 equivalent to a bombing mission every 8 minutes 24 hours a days for 9 years even today people are still being killed or seriously injured due to so many UXO.

    • @jurgentreue1200
      @jurgentreue1200 Год назад

      To add, there are still between 30-80 million UXOs still littering the Lao countryside and at the current rate of clean up, it will take 180 years to rid Laos of every UXO. The Americans spent more daily bombing Laos than is now spends yearly cleaning up their mess.

  • @Wapiman
    @Wapiman 3 месяца назад

    Neenee, This is the first time that I have seen this or know the details about the cave. I knew that your father was a general. I wondered how you spent your early years. I had hoped that you and your mother were in a safe place. To hear that you were born in a cave breaks my heart. I am so very sorry.

  • @nickhubbard3671
    @nickhubbard3671 Год назад +1

    Tham Piu Cave,
    The cave mouth and the statue at 5:20. Yes. Very sad. I visited the caves with my friend “falang sii dam”. Inconsolable with the horror. Incomprehensible.
    Our children must read history books.

  • @philyew3617
    @philyew3617 Год назад +1

    Thanks for the video Todd. I gave it a like but I'm conflicted because, how do I or anyone else actually 'Like' this tragic piece of History? I did some reading and research into this disgracefull war, it is truly horrific what America did to Laos and it's people. And 60 years on they still don't like being exposed.

    • @NowinLao
      @NowinLao  Год назад +3

      I understand Phil.
      Yes, as is evident by some comments trying to justify it. I'd be ashamed and trying to defend it also. 😏

  • @BadMedizin
    @BadMedizin Год назад +3

    Horrific can't describe it.

  • @user-fw1pt9ru5i
    @user-fw1pt9ru5i 24 дня назад

    Very moving /sad part of history,that the Americans would/should be ashamed of. Sadly in conflicts around the world ,as at 2024,it still continues. Innocent lives lost.. Kenno..West Aust

  • @bahjatkhanu8303
    @bahjatkhanu8303 Год назад

    omg so sad it s tragedy

  • @junhengchin6416
    @junhengchin6416 Год назад +3

    Sir, The same thing is happening in The Ukraine today. THE DEVIL that was responsible then, is still living today. May The souls of The dead have eternal peace. The KARMA has caught up with That country that did this.

  • @petermcnaughton9031
    @petermcnaughton9031 Год назад +1

    Tears flow gee mate how you hold up telling this

  • @ksvvang
    @ksvvang Год назад

    May those souls rest in peace

  • @inkmantwo2
    @inkmantwo2 Год назад +2

    Shows just how sorry war to is. There are no winners. We all lose in the end

  • @ravenhairedjen
    @ravenhairedjen Год назад +1

    What Americans don't do enough is educate their newer generation of this time in their history. How such atrocities are left in the dark is unconscionable. There are mental health programs for vets, but how many of those programs were and are available for the refugees of Lao.

  • @andyfoxy3140
    @andyfoxy3140 Год назад

    Man….just so terrible.

  • @jimwells8001
    @jimwells8001 Год назад +4

    i wonder why the us bombed laos so heavy when laos was neutral in the war in vietnam?

    • @americanronin5223
      @americanronin5223 Год назад

      I recommend you read "Tragic Mountains" by Jane Hamilton-Merritt, Nobel-nominated scholar and photojournalist, has followed the plight of the Hmong and the war in Indochina since the 1960s.

    • @robertburnett6348
      @robertburnett6348 Год назад +1

      I heard That Nixon did just to show that we could.

    • @jurgentreue1200
      @jurgentreue1200 Год назад +1

      Because the war in Vietnam wasn't confined just to the borders of Vietnam. It spilt over into Laos and Cambodia, who were neutral.

    • @jurgentreue1200
      @jurgentreue1200 Год назад

      @@americanronin5223 ,, and the sad conclusion, the US withdrew from Laos and had the Hmong had to fend for themselves against overwhelming odds.
      The Hmong were jooped by the Americans into joining the war with the promise of aid. Towards the end of the Lao Civil War, as the Hmong were running out of fighting aged men, aid was reduced, so the Hmong sent 14 year old boys to the front.

    • @americanronin5223
      @americanronin5223 Год назад

      @@jurgentreue1200 All true... most Hmong joined the CIA Special Guerilla Units (SGU) or "Secret Army" out of necessity and many unwittingly since we were mainly uneducated subsistence farmers.
      The promise of economic and political aid were strong incentives. However, the CIA isn't known for keeping its promises, so they were likely just telling General Vang Pao and his political allies what they wanted and needed to hear.
      You are correct, pre-teen and teenage boys were conscripted as replacements due to the high casualty rate among the SGU's. My father was one of the many 14 year-olds who were rounded up for "training" and deployment to the front lines. I'm surprised he survived and died of old age in the comfort of his bed surrounded by 9 loving American children and over a dozen grand children in St. Paul, MN.

  • @nogoingback7766
    @nogoingback7766 Год назад

    important video, thank you.
    Two years plus ago, I travelled 26 kms from the center of Da Nang at the time of Tet....100m from the house, that we were invited to for lunch, was a shrine located on a previous mass grave of 130 villagers, the result of an operation.
    After the war they were relocated across a small river with proper ceremony.
    What other stories that are yet to told.

  • @jackkuppens8582
    @jackkuppens8582 Год назад +2

    This must be the darkest period of the American involvement in South East Asia, us from Europe always remember the second world war and the crimes Germany did to most of the European countries including my native Country, but what America did in South East Asia and for their reason to do is is just as bad and are pure crimes against humanity and still believe America has been the worst war Mongol of the past century and all in the name of peace and protection, my heart bleeds for al these poor , poor simple people caught in the middle of this lunacy called war

  • @thongvue5395
    @thongvue5395 Год назад

    You went to those places many times

    • @NowinLao
      @NowinLao  Год назад

      First time at Tham Piu cave

  • @spirittaos
    @spirittaos Год назад

    I hope they're a lot of Americans that will view this video. Having lived through the war I've always been embarrassed our precipitation.

  • @hark1203
    @hark1203 Год назад

    😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢❤

  • @jurgentreue1200
    @jurgentreue1200 Год назад

    Tham Piew has the unenviable reputation of the highest loss of civilian life in one single event during the Second Indochina War. The killings at My Lai, of around 500 souls, was perpetrated over a number of days, Tham Piew was instant.
    The population of Tham Piew cave used to ebb and flow depending on bombing campaigns in the area and the season. There were also a number of refugees from surrounding districts hiding in the caves. People would come and go, and return home as bombings ceased.
    Tham Piew cave should be seen as a war crime.

  • @johnfitzpatrick5627
    @johnfitzpatrick5627 Год назад +1

    War no one wins so Sad for People of Laos

  • @keithmuckchucker6468
    @keithmuckchucker6468 Год назад

    Sad, too many innocent people die in war's

  • @sapawarrior9247
    @sapawarrior9247 Год назад

    did they give the names of famly i looking for the names of Kompadith

  • @hienly3050
    @hienly3050 11 месяцев назад

    There's a book about the secret CIA war on Laos. The Thai army took part in it. The Plain of Jars has been reduced to rubble. I visited Laos and went to see the Plain of Jars in 2014.

  • @farangutan6773
    @farangutan6773 Год назад

    Oh my god what a terrible horrible death inflicted on 374 innocent people, their crime trying to hide from the bombing of the war ?

  • @mickbishop5465
    @mickbishop5465 Год назад +1

    God gave us this world and we are doing our best to fcuk it up .God forgive us😢

  • @peterhoward7521
    @peterhoward7521 3 месяца назад

    I’ve been to that cave ! You can still see we’re the other missile hit and all there cooking stuff still there, the fire place, the Americans bombed there rice paddies during the day so the tendered them at night, it is heart breaking, it wasn’t there war, I can tell you there is hardly any flat lane there, so many bombs you can’t walk on flat land now.

  • @hestonhutaue1214
    @hestonhutaue1214 Год назад

    Very sad that so many innocent people died on that fateful day in 1968.

  • @karaoke832
    @karaoke832 Год назад +2

    Kop chai Todd and Neenee. A very sad story. I hope to visit there and pay my respects.

  • @Macjohn1419
    @Macjohn1419 Год назад

    I was still in school during the war. I was against the Viet Nam war. Even at my young age, I knew we shouldn’t have been there. Luckily the war ended before I was drafted. As for the pilot, he was brainwashed into seeking out and destroying the enemy, whether real or imagined. It is a tragedy for everyone. I wonder what he would think today if he found out what he did.

  • @juans3728
    @juans3728 Год назад

    War is a Dirty Business. Peace.

  • @chansaechao79
    @chansaechao79 Год назад +1

    Indiscriminate bombing. My mom and uncle are from XiengKhouang province in Laos

  • @DAVIDALD49
    @DAVIDALD49 Год назад

    fighter launched missile that could do that much damage? Not back then. Anecdotal. The history of what actually happened will be difficult to find but the area was targeted for a reason. Have to say a prayer for all families and children killed in war.

  • @robertburnett6348
    @robertburnett6348 Год назад

    Can I add? I heard that Nixon did it just to show that he could. Check "Johnson's lies that got us in The Vietnam war". Also, the P.O.W.s ge lots of sympathy. But why would you do with someone who just slaughtered your village? Remember, I am a purple heart vet.

  • @PhajEsTeeb
    @PhajEsTeeb Год назад +1

    We are born just to die. War always has casualties. Its a sad reminder why i am here in America. Alot sacrifices were made...

  • @kouavang5928
    @kouavang5928 Год назад +5

    Todd war is never innocent. As you know the pathet Lao was the same as the vietkong, it was hard to distinguish who were true civilians and who were disguised so. Man made caves and natural caves were used by the military. Both sides used civilians to cover their identities. In this secret war, every one was farmer and civilians soldiers at the same time. After the war, the new government not only punished the true soldiers of the losing side, but every one was suspected. That's why thousands civilians had reasonable fears and fled to Thailand. Even during the peaceful flees, many were killed along the ways both on land and in the water of making River. Even if you were not directly involved in fighting the war, you were associated with family members who were. Unfortunately, no was perceived to be innocent during this crazy 2 brothers' war for position in ruling seat. I feel that we learned more about the truth if this sad war when being in America. In Laos, our people and parents were lied to believe that it was a defending of the country, both sides innocent civilians were lied to.

  • @donaldplagge9675
    @donaldplagge9675 Год назад

    I was stationed at Udon Thani, Thailand, at the Udorn RTAFB. I remember seeing many vehicles with various unit "tags" on them, including "kangaroos"! I do not believe that was Americans or Thais patting the kangaroo tags! People from many countries were flying American built aircraft in the secret war., including Lao Hmong, Lao Royalists, Thai mercinary, and others, besides Americans. Caves were a favorite spot for arms cache storage, but with that cave so high above flat ground, a normal pilot would have not bothered. I believe that area of Laos was held by one group in the dry season, another group in the wet season. The communists transporting arms down the trail to Vietnam were always looking for rice along the way, so that they did not have to carry daily rations and arms. Harvested rice was considered a military target in any of the communist held areas because of this. The stories about the Hmong hunting by the communists after the end of the war also should be researched, many were even shot swimming the Mekong to Thailand at night. An area was considered a "military area" after the war, while the army was hunting down the Hmong that had not escaped to Thailand, that military was in force for years after the war.

  • @americanronin5223
    @americanronin5223 Год назад +7

    As a retired American soldier and former child refugee from Laos, I have seen war atrocities up close and personal both as a victim and a combatant in Iraq and Afghanistan. Unimaginable horror is an understatement. As bad as this tragedy was, the communists (Pathet Lao & N. Vietnamese) were even more brutal in their war crimes against the populace who favored freedom and democracy. They committed wholesale slaughter and systematic genocide against the Hmong who fought for freedom with the Americans. Neither women nor children were spared during their campaign of terror during the war and for decades after. Lao communists and their Vietnamese overlords could definitely give the Khmer Rouge a run for their money. Equally sadistic and evil.
    There are two sides to every story. I pray we all have learned an important lesson and choose peace over war moving forward.

    • @Maoli2013
      @Maoli2013 Год назад +1

      Well said. In a war no one is exempt from the guilt. Thank you for your service from a fellow American vet.

    • @shannonquinn8687
      @shannonquinn8687 Год назад +1

      Unfortunately, the US military industrial complex will never choose peace. Every war in human history outside the Crusades comes down to economic gain. A conflict with China is inevitable, and our corrupt defense contractors are already preparing for it.

    • @brucesieverts1236
      @brucesieverts1236 Год назад +1

      nailed it dude, gorilla warfare carried on for 40 years after the yanks left and it was just as brutal.

    • @robertwalker2923
      @robertwalker2923 Год назад +1

      Yes mate so true Cambodia is similar and the us won't de mine these countries a lot of westerners have no idea what the communist movement would of done to se asia

    • @americanronin5223
      @americanronin5223 Год назад +1

      @@robertwalker2923 I appreciate your understanding of the geopolitics of S.E. Asia. You are correct, the $400M the U.S. committed to UXO eradication isn't nearly enough. At this rate, it will take over a century to reclaim UXO contaminated land according to my research as a Harvard graduate student.

  • @geneloscowski3070
    @geneloscowski3070 Год назад +2

    The incident at Tham Piu Cave was a true tragedy. However, you failed to mention that the cave housed a Pathet Lao commando team that killed 55 Hmong soldiers, along with their wives and two 12 year old children at Sop Ko in June 1968. The cave hid the commando team and a large quantity of explosives, weapons and military supplies. In early November 1968, a US Army Special Operations Team chased the commandos to the cave. A USAF reconnasissance aircraft identified a radio frequency belonging to the commando team emitted from the cave. On November 24, 1968, an F-4 fighter jet from Udorn AB, Thailand arrived and fired two rockets into the cave killing 374 people. The fighter pilot did not know there was families located inside the cave. Vang Pao sent his condolences to Souphanouvong in December 1968. The CIA believes the rocket would not have killed all those people if the cave did not house the explosives, weapons and military supplies.

    • @robertburnett6348
      @robertburnett6348 Год назад +5

      Believe the CIA?

    • @NowinLao
      @NowinLao  Год назад +3

      I never failed to mention it because this is the first time I have heard of any sort of reasoning or justification. Maybe you can provide us with a link. Thank you

    • @NowinLao
      @NowinLao  Год назад

      www.artseverywhere.ca/the-secret-war-in-laos-tragedy-at-tham-piew-cave/

    • @NowinLao
      @NowinLao  Год назад +3

      @@robertburnett6348 It's not like they haven't made excuses before... there's always some BS justification

    • @hestonhutaue1214
      @hestonhutaue1214 Год назад +1

      I knew from the start when Todd was filming his video that there must be a marker for the pilot to home in on that spot, still very sad though because so many people people were killed. 😢😢😢

  • @PajPobTsuasVaj
    @PajPobTsuasVaj Год назад +10

    The French government and the US government shall be held accountable for war crimes and human rights violations.

    • @familytabrizi76
      @familytabrizi76 Год назад +2

      How? Both have nuclear bomb + veto power in UN.

    • @donbrashsux
      @donbrashsux Год назад +1

      And accountable for all the other war crimes.. but nothing ever changes

    • @_Alfa.Bravo_
      @_Alfa.Bravo_ Год назад

      Most landmines in the grounds in Asia were made in China ....

    • @mtnmandeluxe5429
      @mtnmandeluxe5429 Год назад +1

      Sadly,,that will never happen. Every government that has EVER and I mean EVER fought a war has done something similiar. Even Lao and Vietnam conducted operations that murdered people,,just wasnt on the scale of this. In WWII Hitler killed 6 to 8 million people,,Stalin on the other hand killed 18 to 20 million people,,mostly Ukrainians sad to say. This stuff will always happen until God makes wars cease.

    • @khondermnonborkeo9000
      @khondermnonborkeo9000 Год назад

      They are exceptionalist and supremacist, they just only subjugate and bring another ppl under their laws