The Heat were literally called a Super Team TM for a reason and were expected to WIN. Lebron is famous for bragging, "not 1, not 2..." and then immediately loses to a team that Wade had already beaten in the finals. It's one of the most laughable things in human history and I'm astonished that people defend this bs.
@@patjenkins1308 you're right it's an indefensible embarrassment... the stacked super team lost to a one man crew from dallas... i was more shocked than lebron was... dude is a mentally weak picture of a failure
@@notimportant3686 You're talking about ONE series. LeBron has been the underdog in a majority of his Finals for a reason. He played horrible in '11, that was never debated.
MJ had more All-NBA/DEF & All-Star teammates, as well as award winners & league leader teammates than anyone from '90-'98. So he had the most "help" by far. If you stripped every star from their respective teams in the 90's, the Bulls without MJ would be the best supporting cast. Nice try, I guess. Pippen & MJ played 116 games in their 6 title runs. Pippen beat out MJ in totals in rebounds, assists, steals & blocks. TALK ABOUT HELP!
To add, Arenas didn’t even play in the 2007 1st round vs Cavs. So Wizards beside having a 41-41 record didn’t have the main player that let them have 41 wins in the first place.
All finals HOF teammates and HOF opponents Jordan 9:10 (6 times pippen + 3 rodman) Lebron 17:31 Garbage is just this channel. The guy is stupid or toxic or both. Who said lebron east conference was weaker than Jordan btw😂 Era is diff.
Actually lbj fans didn’t start that it was mj and bulls fans who did it because they wanted to defend the 72-10 bulls your rewriting history to fit your narrative
Side note on the first finals run. If you put cleveland and their 50 wins in the west that year, they would have played the Spurs in the first round. The team that swept them in the finals. Finals run in the east = first round exit in the west
"Well, MJ never made it to the finals before Pippen" Yeah, if your opponents are either finalists or championship teams. Lebron was lucky enough to face TWO 41-41 teams to reach the finals. MJ had the bad luck of either getting eliminated by Larry Birds Celtics or Bad Boy Pistons.
Bro I absolutely LOVE this. I've been screaming this FOR YEARS. And then people have the AUDACITY to say he's had to deal with the most pressure. This man has had the easiest road to Legendary status I've ever seen.
Easiest road to legendary status hunh? Yup! You’re right sir. The entire league is wrong. Every analysis is wrong. All the accolades and scoring titles and MVPS and records are wrong. LeBron is actually a bum. All hail Jordan. I mean damn, you guys don’t quit. I SERIOUSLY don’t knows who’s more annoying, LeBron fans, or LeBron haters. One things for sure though, LeBron haters are definitely 100% without a doubt f**king stupid and delusional 🤣
@@thebuilder2018 Jordan only got swept twice in his entire career and both times it was against the Celtic who literally had 5 Hall of Fame players on their roster.
@@jj10176 Please, the difference between LeBron and the other superstars is that the latter bunch never ONCE “demanded respect” and/or “feigned retirement” after they’ve lost in their respective careers.
@@BenDovahkin I’m happy you said that because only bill Russell should be mentioned 11 out of 13 years don’t get any better. Everyone in the the top 10 played double digit seasons and none of them have double digit rings
You should do a video about the MYTH that Lebron make his teammates BETTER. Most players that teamed up with Lebron ended up worse off and had a far worse career trajectory. The production drops off a cliff when players play with Lebron (stars AND role players alike), he is a stat vampire
It’s almost like if 2 stars play with eachother one player is going to get the the ball more and the other will score less. Doesn’t make them a worse player they just get less opportunities with the ball
@@thatkidmason999 The heat and Cavs made the playoffs multiple times since lebron left That shows he's not as important as you fans and the media make him out to be
@@Chuck_ELThe Cavs have made the playoffs once without Lebron in the past 25 years which was this past year when Lebron has played with 0 of the players on the roster.
Yes, absolutely. When Shaq left Orlando for LA and Jordan retired a couple seasons later, the balance shifted heavily in favor of the West. The East has just a handful of chips in the last 25 years.
Kevin Love was so underrated. His last ssn with the Wolves he led them to a better record than Kevin Garnett’s last 2 seasons there before the Boston move👀
Defensive liability, shrunk in the playoffs, inconsistent shooter, didn't handle physicality in the post well, etc. Regular season excellence is different than post-season. Ask James Harden.
@@LeHitlershrunk in the playoffs and was a bad shooter ? That's what happens when you play with Lebron. Love was never scared to play in the post or could never handle
@@LeHitler he never got to play in the playoffs, you had to win 49-50 games to even make the 8th seed. And on Cleveland Lebrun forced him to become a spot up shooter even though he had and excellent post game and was the best rebounder in the league by a mile.
Been watching basketball over 2 decades. Life long laker fan. I never disliked Duncan for beating Kobe, or Dirk for Beating Kobe. Because I respected them. I never disliked any player until Lebron. Because of the fake narratives & twisted numbers without context behind them. Thanks once again Skap for telling the truth 💯
@@CindyLarson-p8x Hot take: Laimbeer's skillset would fit in more in today's NBA than it did back then. He was a prototype stretch 4/5, he could shoot the 3 well enough.
I'm with ya been watching since 98 always wanted spurs 2 win but also wanted Kobe 2 win those series were something else I was glued 2 my TV watching wit my dad eating sunflower seeds cuz my anxiety was thru da roof love good basketball. Always laugh when I here he's gonna take his talents 2 south beach or 2016 turned him n2 the goat man if he wouldn't have been so conceded he might not have been so bad but hey he's rich and I'm poor so what do I kno lol I'm glad Dirk got his revenge in 2011 and finally won 1 after the stunt him and wade pulled
LeBron is a media creation, no different than propaganda. The truth takes time and as time goes on the propaganda breaks down. The delusion wears off and people see clarity.
@@rgncal4872 2008 saw ALL of playoff teams in the West had 50 wins. Denver was 8th seed with 50 wins. The Golden State Warriors went head to head against the Nuggets for the 8th seed and lost steam in the end which they won 48 games.
I love how "scoring" is mentioned at & not defense, which is half the game. Also, being in the middle of the pact in the league in scoring isn't bad. It's average. Also, MJ had more All-NBA/DEF & All-Star teammates, as well as award winners & league leader teammates than anyone from '90-'98. So he had the most "help" by far. If you stripped every star from their respective teams in the 90's, the Bulls without MJ would be the best supporting cast. Nice try, I guess. Pippen & MJ played 116 games in their 6 title runs. Pippen beat out MJ in totals in rebounds, assists, steals & blocks. TALK ABOUT HELP!
Can one of you help me please. What Superteam did Jordan beat on his 6 trips to the final? I keep asking on these Jordan sites but I never get an answer! We know he played on one - Jordan, Pippen and Rodman. 3 HOF's. I'll wait ........
@@richardturner1063 1991 Detroit Pistons. Joe Dumars, Isaiah Thomas and Dennis Rodman. All 3 in the Hall of Fame. If you want to play this game and think that MJ played on a Super team. If the 1991 Detroit Pistons isn't a super team then MJ didn't play on a Super team it's a simple as that.
THREE ACTUALLY: 2007 Spurs SWEPT Lebron in 2007 (and Bron Bron had a LOT of help in that series, his TEAMMATES played AMAZING defense and kept every single game close, average margin of victory was ~6 points, but Bron shot below 40% and led all players in TOs, a common theme in his Finals runs that nobody talks about - he's a TURNOVER MACHINE). 2008 Kobe GENTLEMAN SWEEPS THE SAME SPURS TEAM THAT SWEPT LeSteroids (remember, he takes EPO and HGH) 4-1. 2009 Orlando beats LeEPO 4-2, Kobe GENTLEMAN SWEEPS THEM 4-1. 2010 Boston beats LeHGH 4-2, Kobe COMES BACK from a deficit 3-2 and wins BACK TO BACK elimination games to beat Boston 4-3 while OUTREBOUNDING the entire Celtics team in game 7, 15 rebounds, the next closest Celtic had 10. KOBE WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY better than Lebron. In fact, anybody who tells me they have Lebron over Kobe i IMMEDIATELY lose respect for their intellect. It's the greatest IQ test ever: Kobe or Lebron Simple: High IQ people pick Kobe because they understand that WINNING isn't reducible to a box score; low IQ people pick Lebron because they fetishize decontextualized stats that often had no real-time effect on WINNING. I could write a whole article on this.
@@jonthomson9262 MJ had more All-NBA/DEF & All-Star teammates, as well as award winners & league leader teammates than anyone from '90-'98. So he had the most "help" by far. If you stripped every star from their respective teams in the 90's, the Bulls without MJ would be the best supporting cast. Nice try, I guess. Pippen & MJ played 116 games in their 6 title runs. Pippen beat out MJ in totals in rebounds, assists, steals & blocks. TALK ABOUT HELP!
@@LeHitler no he didn't. Stop lying for lebrons legacy......Jordan only had pippen average better than 20 during their championship runs.....and pippen only averaged 20 or more during just 2 runs,his highest being 21.6 during the 1st run. The other 4 runs pippen was under 20 as Jordan's 2nd highest scorer. .....LeBron had ALOT more help dude. Everybody knows this.
Your channel is hands down the best at breaking down stats and showing the reality of the hype and mind games involving LBJ. The media has been guilty for decades of exaggerating Lebron's legacy. You're the GOAT of exposing this. Keep it up!
Way to go Skap, you nailed it once more! You could add in a future video that during Jordan's six titles the East won 52.55% of the games against the West (total 1236-1116).👍
When Lebron played in the East the conference was so weak they nicknamed it “The Leastern Conference.” Lebron never had to face the physical teams that Michael Jordan had to beat to reach the Finals. Teams like the Pistons, Pacers, Cavaliers and 50 win teams like the New York Knicks and Atlanta Hawks. Michael Jordan beat more 60 win teams in the playoffs than Lebron and Kobe combined. During the Bulls championship run between 1991-92-93 and 1996-97-98, Jordan’s Bulls went an astonishing 388-104 during the regular season, that means out of the nearly 500 regular season games the Bulls played they only lost 100 games. What makes that even more amazing, it’s excluding postseason play.
Great video as always, you narrated brilliantly arguments we've put across for so many years. When you tell LeBron stans that the east was historically weak they can't understand just how lop sided it was. I've always maintained that if you stack the deck in your favour you had better win. The greatest indictment on LeBron's career (aside from allowing everybody to feast on championships during his era) is that he manipulated events to put himself in the best position possible to win every single time and still came up woefully short.
MJ had more All-NBA/DEF & All-Star teammates, as well as award winners & league leader teammates than anyone from '90-'98. So he had the most "help" by far. If you stripped every star from their respective teams in the 90's, the Bulls without MJ would be the best supporting cast. Nice try, I guess. Pippen & MJ played 116 games in their 6 title runs. Pippen beat out MJ in totals in rebounds, assists, steals & blocks. TALK ABOUT HELP!
Nobody claims MJ had no help. But saying allstar teammates like it was multiple guys is being disingenuous. It was literally one guy Scottie Pippen. Also Rodman led the league in rebounds 3 times as MJ's teammate. Malone had Stockton who led the league in assist and steals 8 times in total from 90 to 98. Finally for all the incredible help you claim MJ had his supporting cast was outscored by his opponents best players supporting cast in all 6 NBA finals he played in. Can't say the same for LeBron. I've seen Wade Kyrie and AD either outscore their opponents' best player or LeBron himself in the finals. Talk about help.
I saw something in another video that puts things into perspective when people say LeBron James faced tougher competition in the NBA finals than Michael Jordan faced. True, MJ never had to face an NBA champion juggernaut team like the mid-2010s Warriors (whom LBJ managed to beat only ONCE in 4 finals). But that's because MJ's Bulls WERE the NBA champion juggernaut team that kept all the other teams from winning rings. So the video asked this question: Which is more impressive - LBJ beating the juggernaut team of his era ONCE in FOUR finals; or MJ's team BEING the juggernaut team of his era which won SIX of SIX NBA finals? Because MJ's Bulls did something the mid-2010s Warriors were unable to do - 3-peat. And MJs bulls did this TWICE! So, NO, winning ONE finals and LOSING THREE to the Warriors does NOT make LBJ the GOAT, nor does going 4 of 6 in Finals make the Warriors a better team than the 1990s Bulls teams lead by MJ that 3-peated TWICE. In all 6 Finals he played, MJ was CLEARLY the best player on the court, while in all 6 of LBJs finals losses SOMEONE ELSE was the best player on the court, and in at least one (2011) LBJ wasn't even the best player on his own team. To paraphrase the self-proclaimed "Chosen One": "This right here shows EVERYONE that LBJ is NOT the Goat."
That’s what I’m always saying to those delusional Bron fans. How can other teams build their dynasty if there’s a conquering team that kept dismantling them. And they will make a notion that the Bulls played in a weak era. Well it’s just a logical way to understand that, because they’re not good enough to defeat the conquering team (the Bulls).
Love your videos! After watching one I find myself looking forward to the next one! I wish I could get my LeBron loving friends to watch em but they don’t want to face the truth.
My favorite is when he pretended to go back to Cleveland because of a “promise”. When in reality, it was because he knew Miami was finished, and he got word that the Cavaliers were going to pick up Kevin love to go with Kyrie Irving making the big three in Cleveland. Golden State, while having an impressive record for the regular season, a big three they did not have. No way Draymon “triple single” green is on the level to complete a trio labeled “big 3”. Lebron in no way carried that stacked Cleveland team. Regardless of what the sports media would have you believe
I admit I'm a RUclips junkie and therefore watch a lot of content creators. That said, I look forward to your videos more than any other creator! You're the man! Keep up the great work!
DON'T FORGET THAT 2/3 OF THE TEAMS YOU PLAY IN A SEASON (82 Games) ARE IN YOUR SAME CONFERENCE!!! Those 60 win Cavs teams are barely 50 win teams in the West!!!
Awesome!!!! I had been waiting for somebody to detail the eastern conference and how weak it was during that era. You did it Sir so brilliantly! Thank you!
MJ had more All-NBA/DEF & All-Star teammates, as well as award winners & league leader teammates than anyone from '90-'98. So he had the most "help" by far. If you stripped every star from their respective teams in the 90's, the Bulls without MJ would be the best supporting cast. Nice try, I guess. Pippen & MJ played 116 games in their 6 title runs. Pippen beat out MJ in totals in rebounds, assists, steals & blocks. TALK ABOUT HELP!
@@LeHitler you talk like its not a difference only by decimals yet MJ almost doubled the points. Its so funny has casuals only rely on stats yet don't know how a leader should be. MJ is a shooting guard who prioritizes scoring. He held his teammates to fulfill their roles. Instead of waiting for a defensive rebound he runs on the other end for an easy basket trusting his Big guys get the rebound. Pippen was partly has the role of a PG where he runs the triangle offense as MJ goes on the post, that's where he got most of his assist. If you really wanna see who hustles more check MJ and Lebron's offensive rebounds and steals. lol.. Lebron in his 21 years haven't reached MJ in Offensive boards despite being bigger. Lol.. Lebron gets freebies from making his centers boxout for him like WB and Harden and SF tends to get the rebound on missed free throws. You don't know a crap in a team game and how it works. Educate yourself. lmao..
@@Lovechie4life MJ did score more, he also led the league in attempts 9x. I would hope he'd lead his team in scoring if he's shooting so much more than anyone else. Just for perspective, LeBron has NEVER led the league in attempts. No one since MJ has even led more than 5x. MJ & Malone played 6 games in the '98 Finals, MJ shot 50 more attempts than Malone. That's 2 games worth of shots. MJ was a volume shooter. Efficient, but volume nonetheless. MJ also didn't have to do anything but score, so he played with more energy to even wanan crash the glass offensively. LeBron has to do virtually everything for his team, so he preserves his energy. Doesn't mean he isn't capable. You idiots even comparing a 38 year old in his 21st season to prime MJ, says everything. MJ was retired by year 15 AFTER he took off 3 years already. Pathetic.
Post Kobe Achilles, the 1 seed warriors won 73-9 2 seed spurs went 67-15! The okc thunder went 58-24 and 4th seed the lob city clippers 53-29 , talk about competition, the three peat in 2900 -01-02 for the lakers rank as the hardest the 2nd hardest and 4th hardest roads to a championship ever. Jimmyxroller has the video.
Can’t wait tell you do a video of the 04’ Olympics and 06’ Fiba games where the Lebron era guys got waxed by no named plumbers especially 06’ 😅 I have made memes on Facebook about this and the Lebron fans literally are in tears when I show them the actual international non nba plumbers that waxed the Lebron era players in 04’ and 06’ it’s crazy but for some reason the Lebron fans think that Lebron could hang with the dream team 😭😭😂😂
@@jjohnson4013 FACTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND LEBRON HAD DUNCAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THINK ABOUT THAT HE HAD DUNCAN AND GOT BRONZE TWICE, NOT EVEN GOOD ENOUGH FOR SILVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LMAOOOO And here's the funny thing, LOW IQ clowns think Bron would've won MORE rings than Kobe did with Shaq! LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO If he got BRONZE TWICE with Duncan, he aint winning NADA with Shaq a paint clogger who occludes the rim because he cant space the floor with midrange shooting.
2007 Spurs SWEPT Lebron in 2007 (and Bron Bron had a LOT of help in that series, his TEAMMATES played AMAZING defense and kept every single game close, average margin of victory was ~6 points, but Bron shot below 40% and led all players in TOs, a common theme in his Finals runs that nobody talks about - he's a TURNOVER MACHINE). 2008 Kobe GENTLEMAN SWEEPS THE SAME SPURS TEAM THAT SWEPT LeSteroids (remember, he takes EPO and HGH) 4-1. 2009 Orlando beats LeEPO 4-2, Kobe GENTLEMAN SWEEPS THEM 4-1. 2010 Boston beats LeHGH 4-2, Kobe COMES BACK from a deficit 3-2 and wins BACK TO BACK elimination games to beat Boston 4-3 while OUTREBOUNDING the entire Celtics team in game 7, 15 rebounds, the next closest Celtic had 10. KOBE WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY better than Lebron. In fact, anybody who tells me they have Lebron over Kobe i IMMEDIATELY lose respect for their intellect. It's the greatest IQ test ever: Kobe or Lebron Simple: High IQ people pick Kobe because they understand that WINNING isn't reducible to a box score; low IQ people pick Lebron because they fetishize decontextualized stats that often had no real-time effect on WINNING. I could write a whole article on this.
@@feynmanschwingere_mc2270 i agree also Kobe beat those team with less help and without a top 75 player. While Lebron had to build súper team with all star and hall of famers to win a chip
Thanks for spitting all the knowledge and facts, I appreciate it and I'm sure a lot of others do also, thanks for pointing out all the Kobe facts we know he is far beyond LeBron
They always like to bring up the 8 straight finals appearance but never want to bring up no other eastern team would have won a chip. That was probably the Weakest the eastern conference has been in my lifetime and im almost 50
@@bwink23true LeBum thought too highly of themselves proclaiming 7 championships only winning 2/4 and leaving as soon as he saw the writing on the wall. Goat indeed goes on another team
@@skyMcWeeds Should have been 1 for 3 by LeBum's own pathetic shooting hand. Bosh knew that sh1t would get LeBricked, put himself in position to feed a REAL shooter in Ray Allen to save LeBum's a$$.
Amazing! Its about time someone brought out the truth of the Eastern conference during Lebron James' streak to the finals! I grew up watching NBA in the late 90s to present. I noticed that the Western conference in the 2000s to the mid-2010s were dog fights! Thank you again for the real videos!
@@phillipcummings3518 MJ had more All-NBA/DEF & All-Star teammates, as well as award winners & league leader teammates than anyone from '90-'98. So he had the most "help" by far. If you stripped every star from their respective teams in the 90's, the Bulls without MJ would be the best supporting cast. Nice try, I guess. Pippen & MJ played 116 games in their 6 title runs. Pippen beat out MJ in totals in rebounds, assists, steals & blocks. TALK ABOUT HELP!
@@nbacontents354 I am not a big curry fan. I’ve done a few but nowhere near as well as I’ve covered Lebron. I am thinking a curry video could be coming soon.
When it's all said and done I GUARANTEE that in the future, REAL basketball heads will speak the truth that lebum isn't even a top 5 player to ever exist in the NBA. Facts facts and more facts will be unveiled and change of hearts will happen. Guaranteed!
Not saying Wilt is similar to LeBron but his career was similar, he was hyped as the goat for years until the mid 80s Wilt unlike lebron wasn't full of himself , played defense and only went to the Lakers because he knew he didn't need to be the leader there and was their defensive anchor LeBron would never do that
When you have bench warmers like Kyle Korver making the All-star and the strongest team was a Ben Wallace-less aging Pistons team during Lefraud's purportedly "dominance", you know it's garbage. The average SRS during Lefraud's Eastern Conference run was around 2.3. Typical championship teams are around 6 to 8 SRS.
You already know how it goes. the Instagram kids will say he played with plumbers in a weak era or some crap. But in all seriousness, I think when people look at lebron and Jordan without the recency bias of seeing either of them play they’ll look at Jordan as the more accomplished player (because he is).
No,he is cremating the dead horse of LeBrons legacy......or perhaps dropping it in a vat of acid.....this dude is out to remove all traces of his legacy. The relentless brutality.
@@Angel-xw6js this gives Jordan fans like me that actually live in reality.....even more ammo to add to an already massive arsenal against delusional LeBron fan,not as if we actually needed more ammo for this fraudulent, media driven debate. Lol 😂 😂 😂 😂
First words out of brons mouth when he won a chip was: "about damn time". He felt entitled to win. He tries to carefully craft his bogus image. But his true personality shows when he gets emotional. I appreciate the humor you put into vids that expose how fraudulent his accomplishments are compared to other all time greats
@adityayellapragada1180 that statement is textbook entitlement. You made a statement that has no factual basis. You ride Bron and hearing the truth Hurts your little feelings. Sorry to give you more facts
Man, being a hater of an random guy is truly something remarkable to see. This entire RUclips comment section has be cracking up. I don’t know who’s more toxic and delusional. LeBron fans or your crazy LeBron haters 🤣
A majority of professional athletes use PEDs. Lebron is known for spending roughly 1.5 to 3 million dollars on health and welfare. How much does a personal trainer and a chef cost? Not even close to a million dollars.
@jonthomson9262 honestly I don't hate lebron or anything. It's just a topic that I haven't seen covered in detail and it's important to look into since some people believe he's the greatest player of all time.
@@abender06 I totally agree with you......but the media and the n.b.a. don't want that to happen. LeBron has been the face of the n.b.a.(along with steph curry and Kobe Bryant) for the past 20 years.....an entire generation would be tarnished......but if he is or has ever been on p.e.d.s it needs to be exposed to the world.
I still think the league screwed over Melo in the draft with that random move to Denver instead of Detroit so that LeBron would have an easier path in the Eastern Conference. Melo in Detroit would have made it harder for the league's chosen one to dominate in the East and he would have won a championship his first year in Detroit and they probably would have beaten the Spurs in 2005 (Detroit lost in that 2005 Finals because they lacked offense which was what Melo could have given them). Plus, Melo should have won Rookie of the Year, he had the same numbers as LeBron that season, plus he made the playoffs in the tougher conference while LeBron missed the playoffs in a weaker conference. And LeBron had no business getting swept in the 07 Finals. The Spurs didn't dominate in that series, the games were close, Duncan and Ginobli played average and Parker basically carried the team. LeBron got outplayed by Daniel Gibson off the bench game 1 and then had the most turnovers in the entire Finals. He had help from his teammates but he couldn't close out the games. Mind you, the last 2 games in Cleveland, the Spurs won game 3 by 3 points and game 4 by 1 point. LeBron had no business losing in 2015 when he was up 2-1 without Kyrie and Love and he allowed Iggy to come off the bench and change the series....SMH!!! And 2018 was no excuse either for getting swept. The Cavs could have won game 1 in overtime but LeBron had a meltdown and quit on his team instead of leading his team in overtime for the win and game 3 was winnable because Steph, Klay and Draymond played like garbage with 27 points COMBINED and KD literally had to carry the game for the Warriors. Plus, Love was dominating in the first half and Rodney Hood was playing well but LeBron wanted to play heroball and didn't want to let Rodney shine and stopped feeding Love the ball in the 2nd half. LeBron wanted to get to swept to justify leaving the Cavs AGAIN on the guise that "he had no help" narrative. And the fake cast in the game 4 postgame claiming he hurt his hand to justify ANOTHER FINALS SWEEP yet was doing a 2 handed dunk in game 3 and was dapping his boys with that same hand game 4 was RIDICULOUS...SMH!!!
Add on top of this that Lebron has benefitted probably more than any other play from having the best players he might go against get injured and derail competitive teams. First we had D Rose get injured on the Bulls, who were unquestionably the biggest competition the Heat were going to have for years to come. And were a team that always gave Lebron fits under Thibs. After his first taste of the eastern conference finals in 2011 and losing to the Heat, the Bulls were primed to take over as the best team in the east, just for Rose to get injured and the bulls to fade away. The same thing happened with Paul George and the Pacers, who also became the biggest competitor to the Heat and were on the rise, just for George to break his leg and the Pacer team to disintegrate after that. Then of course we have the Chris Bosh situation, which completely derailed the post Lebron Heat that was becoming competitive again with new players. And subsequently lead to Wade bailing to go join Lebron again. I can't think of another player in history that has ever benefitted from more top level players in his own conference having devastating injuries that derailed top contenders more than Lebron. And as you said, with so few star players in the East to begin with, when you have one of them and they go down, its disproportionally impactful to your team.
I always like to say yes LeBron has faced better competition in the finals but Michael Jordan’s road to the finals and overall competition to get there was harder
Championship runs and finals runs are about more than just the final series. Lebron is under .500 in the most important series, BUT he NEVER would have been to all of those series if it wasn’t for the laughably pathetic competition he faced in his conference. Put Kobe in that conference from 1998-2013, he would have gone to 10.
@@skap_attack Not to mention, LeBum was superteaming with the Top players from his own conference....further weakening an already raggedy LEastern Conference. And who doesn't get enough fanfare are the sharpshooting role players surrounding their 3-headed monster. LeBum!!!
The reason people consider Jordan's Finals competition weaker is because none of them had won championships before. The reason they didn't have rings is because they couldn't beat Jordan. The competition wasn't softer Jordan was just hands down better. There is a Hall of Famer on every team Jordan beat in the finals.
Any chance you can do a video on his size changes and "longevity"? Take a look at him just before he went to Miami. Then look at how big he got when he was there. Then, somehow, he shrunk when he left. And some have said that he just happened to hit the gene pool lottery, which is some explanation of his decades long career. But we all know better...
LeBron 05-06 Lost to DPOY 06-07 Lost in Finals 07-08 Lost to DPOY 08-09 Lost to DPOY as MVP 09-10 Lost in ECSF as MVP 10-11 Beat MVP Rose, Lost Finals 11-12 Beat DPOY as MVP 12-13 Won as MVP 13-14 Lost Finals 14-15 Lost to MVP 15-16 Beat MVP 16-17 Lost to DPOY 17-18 Lost in Finals 18-19 No playoffs 19-20 Won Finals covid bubble 20-21 Lost 1st rnd vs DPOY 1-4 vs MVP 2-1 Finals recrd 4-6
@@Mike1122. Wade, Bosh, Kyrie, Love, Ray Allen, AD, Westbrook, Dwight. I see 8. Kevin Love will get in HOF after few more ties. maybe not 1st ballot. remember, Dwight has 3 DPOY awards as franchise in Orlando in his best year. Dwight might be 1st ballot HOF'er.
i need to know when we started giving participation trophies??? going to 10 finals and only winning 4 is beyond a failing number... 20 years in the league on 3 different good/superteams and only winning 4 titles is crazy where jordan played 11 healthy seasons on the bulls and went went to the finals 6 times winning all 6 wit 2 3 peats and being the only allstar on the team.. people need to knock it off... bron gettin swept TWICE in the finals is where the goat convo was done for him... bron not even top 10 in his own era let alone top 10 of all time CTFU... stop it get some help.
He didn’t “carry a team” lol. He was BY FAR the best player on by far the best teams for the vast majority of his time in the pitiful east. Then he lost over half of the time he got into the finals. Just show your friends this video lol
Jordan never had to carry team meanwhile Jordan never had a teammate that could avg more then 23ppg. How many guys did LeBron play with? LeBron had three teammates drop 30+ points in the finals. Pippen scored 30+ points once. You can argue that two of LeBron's teammates deserve the finals mvp. Anthony Davis SHOULD have won finals mvp over LeBron. Avg more blocks, steals, offensive rebounds, less turnovers and completely shut down the paint while avg 25ppg. That series should have been a sweep, but wasn't because LeBron played zero defense on Butler
Dayumm awesome vid man! Never knew how weak the east were in the playoffs. Most kids nowadays always see the stats but fail to view the context. If other great players played in the east they mightve had better numbers in the playoffs than what theyve had.
All his real completion was slightly older than him while he was blessed with a durable body, played in a weaker conference, played against a generation that looks up to him, created super teams. All that to end up with 4 chips in 20 yrs. We all knew from when he came in the league based on his physique/work ethic that he would have a long career which would equate to him breaking longevity records. If he had broken them in record time it would be more impressive but he broke them only cuz he played for a long time.
Lebron brought all of this down on himself. He entered the league with years of people pumping up his ego already. He feels entitled to...well...everything, AND he has made sure that everyone KNOWS that he is entitled. He looks more and more like a stat guy and not a team guy as time goes on. He has the league in his back pocket and everyone knows it-and he's OK with that. All Time Greats: Don't have to tell you how great they are Don't tell you they are the GOAT Don't have to tell you to respect them Don't team-shop chasing rings DO make the players around them better DO sacrifice for the team DO take the team on their shoulders to win championships when they have to LJ is a good player, but not an All-Time Great.
@@robinweber9640 yes I know.. my point is why would not include them in this vid.. ig I get the pacers since the heat had to go thru them twice in 12 and 13 but Chicago is relevant to this conversation too.. their fall off was SO damn hard though and that's too damn bad
These are some crazy interesting numbers. Context matters. He is a great player. I just wish his cult were more honest with their takes. Great job once again. Hopefully this brings some balance to these arguments.
Here's some more. Lebron is 3rd in minutes and 10th in games played all time but ranks 176th all time in fouls. Noone else on those top 10 lists ranks lower than 30th in fouls. Lebron has less fouls than Jordan and Isiah despite playing 349 and 500 more games than those players.
@@mikerobinson6969 This indicates what to you? To me, it seems he rests a lot of the defensive side. Chase down blocks are great. It just seems guarding someone head up..one on one wasn't his strongest suit.
@@phillipcummings3518 he did but not for a sustained time. He's made the all defensive team 30% of his career. And the last 5-6 years he's really slacked off even more
People acting like LeBron was the GM of every team in the Eastern Conference 🤣. Is it LeBron’s fault that the other 14 teams sucked at drafting and trading for their franchises to give his Heat and Cavs any form competition? Hate LeBron all you want but I never got the logic of the weak conference argument. It says more about the other front offices in allowing LeBron to sleepwalk to conference championships and finals appearances 🤷🏽♂️
I have to like this video before I have even watched it because you always bring the heat! 😂👍 And I am a lifelong Lakers fan! Kobe, and Showtime are my favorite of all time.
Not a single one of his 10 finals runs were impressive in the least. He played great teams in the finals, sure. Kobe and Duncan had to play those teams 3 times out of 4 opponents every year to just get into the finals. We should celebrate them.
would have never beat the Spurs without Ray Allen coming in clutch. I've been a Heat fan for a long time now and I've never seen a player disappear and look the way Lebron looked in those finals games. Dude goes ghost mode and his face looks like he knows it to.
Lol. The only difference between LeBron and MJ's "superteams" was that MJ actually had a competent front office and, aside from the first three Heat years, better teammates. The NBA isn't pathetic at all. You just like to hate.
Everyone always say jordan had pippen like thats even that great. Pippen is like the 3rd most overrated player in nba history behind LeBron and curry. He was a good defender and thats it and not even the best defensive player on his team for the second threepeat.
You will be big as espn one day I can feel it , you’re bringing facts back to basketball ,one day will hear your voice on national tv,please keep up the good work ,god told me to tell u thank u.hahah .appreciate you sir
The Heat were literally called a Super Team TM for a reason and were expected to WIN. Lebron is famous for bragging, "not 1, not 2..." and then immediately loses to a team that Wade had already beaten in the finals. It's one of the most laughable things in human history and I'm astonished that people defend this bs.
What do you mean by defend? there's nothing to defend
@@patjenkins1308 you're right it's an indefensible embarrassment... the stacked super team lost to a one man crew from dallas... i was more shocked than lebron was... dude is a mentally weak picture of a failure
@@notimportant3686 You're talking about ONE series. LeBron has been the underdog in a majority of his Finals for a reason. He played horrible in '11, that was never debated.
MJ had more All-NBA/DEF & All-Star teammates, as well as award winners & league leader teammates than anyone from '90-'98. So he had the most "help" by far. If you stripped every star from their respective teams in the 90's, the Bulls without MJ would be the best supporting cast. Nice try, I guess. Pippen & MJ played 116 games in their 6 title runs. Pippen beat out MJ in totals in rebounds, assists, steals & blocks. TALK ABOUT HELP!
@@LeHitler😂 what are you even talking about?
"Never have I once cheated the game" a statement said by no one.
Unless they cheated the game.
true
"No I haven't smoked grass while driving officer COUGH." 🤨 Passenger seat dude just screaming inside, "STFU"
Lol please explain how Lebron cheated the game
@@johncena4096Why don't you just go else kid, we dont have to explain, its obvious to those with a brain and 2 cells
ngas like you make baseless statements and think it’s factual 😂
To add, Arenas didn’t even play in the 2007 1st round vs Cavs. So Wizards beside having a 41-41 record didn’t have the main player that let them have 41 wins in the first place.
💯,,, lebron fans never put everything into context,,, they just look at stats and judge off that,,, LeTrolls
Butler was out too and he was very arguably the wizards equal 2nd best player. And in that series Jamison outplayed Bron dropping 32/10
That wizards team healthy was a great trio but injuries and off the court ruined their potential.
The East was so bad during 2014-2018, there isn’t 1 memorable team he faced.
@@chitownkidd33Thanks for making a special guest appearance 😁
LeBron Stans: Jordan is nothing w/o Pippen...
Ok, now give me a list of Lebron's teammates during his runs 😏
Which ones? He jumped teams so much you can’t keep count.
All finals HOF teammates and HOF opponents
Jordan 9:10 (6 times pippen + 3 rodman)
Lebron 17:31
Garbage is just this channel. The guy is stupid or toxic or both.
Who said lebron east conference was weaker than Jordan btw😂
Era is diff.
@@mateuszsyrzycki6814Leastern conference was the weakest. Those are the facts. 🤷🏽♂️
@@mateuszsyrzycki6814ppl just mad lebron owned the eastern conference
'But he faced tougher competition'
Me looking at Paul George and Demar Derozan 😅😣
Lebron fans: 73-9 ain’t a thing without a ring.
Also Lebron fans: 10 finals appearances he must be the goat
Damn nobody has ever said that good job lil bro
Actually lbj fans didn’t start that it was mj and bulls fans who did it because they wanted to defend the 72-10 bulls your rewriting history to fit your narrative
false
@@KOHUNIT nah it’s true
@@KOHUNIT yes it’s true the debate was heavy on 2016 on who was a better team 73-9 gsw or 72-10 bulls
Side note on the first finals run. If you put cleveland and their 50 wins in the west that year, they would have played the Spurs in the first round. The team that swept them in the finals.
Finals run in the east = first round exit in the west
😂 👌
Damn............
Facts
"Well, MJ never made it to the finals before Pippen"
Yeah, if your opponents are either finalists or championship teams. Lebron was lucky enough to face TWO 41-41 teams to reach the finals. MJ had the bad luck of either getting eliminated by Larry Birds Celtics or Bad Boy Pistons.
that yr was so mediocre in the east..theyre saying lebron shouldnt got in nba finals when his competition is only 53wins pistons..
Bro I absolutely LOVE this. I've been screaming this FOR YEARS.
And then people have the AUDACITY to say he's had to deal with the most pressure. This man has had the easiest road to Legendary status I've ever seen.
his road was easier than KD?
Whose had tougher Finals opponents than him? I'll wait. Don't even dare say MJ
Easiest road to legendary status hunh? Yup! You’re right sir. The entire league is wrong. Every analysis is wrong. All the accolades and scoring titles and MVPS and records are wrong. LeBron is actually a bum. All hail Jordan.
I mean damn, you guys don’t quit. I SERIOUSLY don’t knows who’s more annoying, LeBron fans, or LeBron haters. One things for sure though, LeBron haters are definitely 100% without a doubt f**king stupid and delusional 🤣
@@rrichmond14literally no one
Bro was getting called the chosen one at 18, he's the biggest prospect ever he's definitely dealt with the most pressure.
Getting swept in 3 different decades made him the greatest of all time
Jordan getting swept multiple times in 1 decade is all the more funny lmao
@@thebuilder2018 Jordan only got swept twice in his entire career and both times it was against the Celtic who literally had 5 Hall of Fame players on their roster.
@thebuilder2018 and Lebron lost to the Mavs 😂
@@Viral-Hit-v5q and jordan ran and cried to david stern to chsnge the rules coz he couldnt handle get pushed around bybthe pistons 😂😂
@@thebuilder2018lebron will never know you or acknowledge you. He would use you as a step stool if possible. Seethe, then cope.
If you're a LeBron fan, losing is actually an argument for greatness... smh
Notice no comments from his fangirls because they know this to be absolutely true. We live in the age of lies and participation awards.
You forgot everyone else lost as well idk why we act as if lbj is the only superstar who has ever lost.
@@jj10176 Please, the difference between LeBron and the other superstars is that the latter bunch never ONCE “demanded respect” and/or “feigned retirement” after they’ve lost in their respective careers.
4 wins in 20 years does not make you greatest.
@@BenDovahkin I’m happy you said that because only bill Russell should be mentioned 11 out of 13 years don’t get any better. Everyone in the the top 10 played double digit seasons and none of them have double digit rings
You should do a video about the MYTH that Lebron make his teammates BETTER. Most players that teamed up with Lebron ended up worse off and had a far worse career trajectory. The production drops off a cliff when players play with Lebron (stars AND role players alike), he is a stat vampire
It’s almost like if 2 stars play with eachother one player is going to get the the ball more and the other will score less. Doesn’t make them a worse player they just get less opportunities with the ball
@@thatkidmason999westbrook?
@@thatkidmason999
The heat and Cavs made the playoffs multiple times since lebron left
That shows he's not as important as you fans and the media make him out to be
@@Chuck_ELThe Cavs have made the playoffs once without Lebron in the past 25 years which was this past year when Lebron has played with 0 of the players on the roster.
@@thewatcherowl6752 Westbrook not the same anymore I’m talking bout the dwade,Bosh, ad
Yes, absolutely. When Shaq left Orlando for LA and Jordan retired a couple seasons later, the balance shifted heavily in favor of the West. The East has just a handful of chips in the last 25 years.
Indeed, California/Texas domination the last 25 years.
From 2000-present day...East teams have won 8 finals...
shaq left because of MJ and the repeat sweeps
@@PanPeter-i5k And Shaq waited for Ewing, Robinson, Olajuwon, Barkley, Rodman, Malone, Mutombo etc, to get old for him to start dominating
@@kaybigg exactly. a little bit lazy was he all the time
Kevin Love was so underrated. His last ssn with the Wolves he led them to a better record than Kevin Garnett’s last 2 seasons there before the Boston move👀
and his points and rebounds (or some other combo of stats) was 1st in history
Defensive liability, shrunk in the playoffs, inconsistent shooter, didn't handle physicality in the post well, etc. Regular season excellence is different than post-season. Ask James Harden.
@@LeHitlershrunk in the playoffs and was a bad shooter ? That's what happens when you play with Lebron. Love was never scared to play in the post or could never handle
@@LeHitler he never got to play in the playoffs, you had to win 49-50 games to even make the 8th seed. And on Cleveland Lebrun forced him to become a spot up shooter even though he had and excellent post game and was the best rebounder in the league by a mile.
He sucked with the Cavs though and after Thompson got his money he stopped playing
Been watching basketball over 2 decades. Life long laker fan. I never disliked Duncan for beating Kobe, or Dirk for Beating Kobe. Because I respected them. I never disliked any player until Lebron. Because of the fake narratives & twisted numbers without context behind them. Thanks once again Skap for telling the truth 💯
40 years here, so I have to add Laimbeer to the hate list
@@CindyLarson-p8x Hot take: Laimbeer's skillset would fit in more in today's NBA than it did back then. He was a prototype stretch 4/5, he could shoot the 3 well enough.
@@CindyLarson-p8xhe was such a dirty player.
Calling himself the goat was pathetic. He’s unlikable and his fans are even worse. I know people that don’t like him BECAUSE of his fans.
I'm with ya been watching since 98 always wanted spurs 2 win but also wanted Kobe 2 win those series were something else I was glued 2 my TV watching wit my dad eating sunflower seeds cuz my anxiety was thru da roof love good basketball. Always laugh when I here he's gonna take his talents 2 south beach or 2016 turned him n2 the goat man if he wouldn't have been so conceded he might not have been so bad but hey he's rich and I'm poor so what do I kno lol I'm glad Dirk got his revenge in 2011 and finally won 1 after the stunt him and wade pulled
LeBron is a media creation, no different than propaganda. The truth takes time and as time goes on the propaganda breaks down. The delusion wears off and people see clarity.
Great way to put it
Like the vaccine.
correct🤣🤣🎉👏
I seriously hope you are correct on this one.
Nobody has done propaganda better than the American media.
The western conference teams 1-8 were legit 50+ wins. The WCF felt like the actual finals. The top maybe 2-3 seeds in the East were 50+ wins.
I remember if your team didn’t break 50 wins your 48 win team was an 8 seed in the west!
it was crazy...I remember the 8th seeded west team would have been 2nd or 3rd in the east. And not just once, literally every single time.
I remember teams with losing records were making the playoffs in the East. It was that bad
@@rgncal4872what's crazy is that the Phoenix Suns had 48 wins in 2014 and missed the playoffs completely! 😂
@@rgncal4872 2008 saw ALL of playoff teams in the West had 50 wins. Denver was 8th seed with 50 wins. The Golden State Warriors went head to head against the Nuggets for the 8th seed and lost steam in the end which they won 48 games.
Jordan won 5 of his 6 chips with the top 15 least scoring supportive cast. 2bof those years they were the worst scoring supportive cast of all time.
I love how "scoring" is mentioned at & not defense, which is half the game. Also, being in the middle of the pact in the league in scoring isn't bad. It's average. Also, MJ had more All-NBA/DEF & All-Star teammates, as well as award winners & league leader teammates than anyone from '90-'98. So he had the most "help" by far. If you stripped every star from their respective teams in the 90's, the Bulls without MJ would be the best supporting cast. Nice try, I guess. Pippen & MJ played 116 games in their 6 title runs. Pippen beat out MJ in totals in rebounds, assists, steals & blocks. TALK ABOUT HELP!
Can one of you help me please.
What Superteam did Jordan beat on his 6 trips to the final? I keep asking on these Jordan sites but I never get an answer! We know he played on one - Jordan, Pippen and Rodman. 3 HOF's. I'll wait ........
@@richardturner1063 You ain't gonna get an answer because they don't exist.
@@LeHitlerJordan also clears lebron defensively so cope
@@richardturner1063 1991 Detroit Pistons. Joe Dumars, Isaiah Thomas and Dennis Rodman. All 3 in the Hall of Fame. If you want to play this game and think that MJ played on a Super team. If the 1991 Detroit Pistons isn't a super team then MJ didn't play on a Super team it's a simple as that.
Kobe beat the two teams that made him run to miami lol
FACTS
With a worse record than Lehelp's
@@kaybiggbut more help than lebron
@@kaybigglebron averaged more in the 09 ecf than Kobe did in the finals lol
THREE ACTUALLY:
2007 Spurs SWEPT Lebron in 2007 (and Bron Bron had a LOT of help in that series, his TEAMMATES played AMAZING defense and kept every single game close, average margin of victory was ~6 points, but Bron shot below 40% and led all players in TOs, a common theme in his Finals runs that nobody talks about - he's a TURNOVER MACHINE).
2008 Kobe GENTLEMAN SWEEPS THE SAME SPURS TEAM THAT SWEPT LeSteroids (remember, he takes EPO and HGH) 4-1.
2009 Orlando beats LeEPO 4-2, Kobe GENTLEMAN SWEEPS THEM 4-1.
2010 Boston beats LeHGH 4-2, Kobe COMES BACK from a deficit 3-2 and wins BACK TO BACK elimination games to beat Boston 4-3 while OUTREBOUNDING the entire Celtics team in game 7, 15 rebounds, the next closest Celtic had 10.
KOBE WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY better than Lebron.
In fact, anybody who tells me they have Lebron over Kobe i IMMEDIATELY lose respect for their intellect. It's the greatest IQ test ever:
Kobe or Lebron
Simple: High IQ people pick Kobe because they understand that WINNING isn't reducible to a box score; low IQ people pick Lebron because they fetishize decontextualized stats that often had no real-time effect on WINNING.
I could write a whole article on this.
The "Leastern conference"
Is gold
All these lefraud videos are smack off worthy 😂
Lebron joining Wade to form a superteam is like a freshman in highschool skipping, sophomore and Junior year to get to college easier.
No it doesn't. Lebron never skipped steps, you 🤡
The most effective analysis of LBJ's career.
Great video!
The most lethal analysis of LeBrons legacy........ever......lebrons legacy is either dead,or in grave condition. Lol 😂 😂
@@jonthomson9262 MJ had more All-NBA/DEF & All-Star teammates, as well as award winners & league leader teammates than anyone from '90-'98. So he had the most "help" by far. If you stripped every star from their respective teams in the 90's, the Bulls without MJ would be the best supporting cast. Nice try, I guess. Pippen & MJ played 116 games in their 6 title runs. Pippen beat out MJ in totals in rebounds, assists, steals & blocks. TALK ABOUT HELP!
@@LeHitler🤡
@@LeHitler no he didn't. Stop lying for lebrons legacy......Jordan only had pippen average better than 20 during their championship runs.....and pippen only averaged 20 or more during just 2 runs,his highest being 21.6 during the 1st run. The other 4 runs pippen was under 20 as Jordan's 2nd highest scorer. .....LeBron had ALOT more help dude. Everybody knows this.
@@jonthomson9262I’m not lying! I mean he’s not lying
LeBron opened Pandora's box to a league of superteams by continually hopping teams with and/or recruiting fresh superstars.
Your channel is hands down the best at breaking down stats and showing the reality of the hype and mind games involving LBJ. The media has been guilty for decades of exaggerating Lebron's legacy. You're the GOAT of exposing this. Keep it up!
Check out angry hoops fan. In my opinion he's better at critiquing LeBron. No shade at this guy at all
Way to go Skap, you nailed it once more! You could add in a future video that during Jordan's six titles the East won 52.55% of the games against the West (total 1236-1116).👍
The Eastern Conference was so much tougher in the 80's!
When Lebron played in the East the conference was so weak they nicknamed it “The Leastern Conference.” Lebron never had to face the physical teams that Michael Jordan had to beat to reach the Finals. Teams like the Pistons, Pacers, Cavaliers and 50 win teams like the New York Knicks and Atlanta Hawks. Michael Jordan beat more 60 win teams in the playoffs than Lebron and Kobe combined. During the Bulls championship run between 1991-92-93 and 1996-97-98, Jordan’s Bulls went an astonishing 388-104 during the regular season, that means out of the nearly 500 regular season games the Bulls played they only lost 100 games. What makes that even more amazing, it’s excluding postseason play.
The East was so weak that the NBA had to change the All Star game format just so Team LeBum could "win"...
Great video as always, you narrated brilliantly arguments we've put across for so many years. When you tell LeBron stans that the east was historically weak they can't understand just how lop sided it was.
I've always maintained that if you stack the deck in your favour you had better win. The greatest indictment on LeBron's career (aside from allowing everybody to feast on championships during his era) is that he manipulated events to put himself in the best position possible to win every single time and still came up woefully short.
You have become my favorite basketball youtuber. You don't miss. Facts over feelings. Keep it up!!!
MJ had more All-NBA/DEF & All-Star teammates, as well as award winners & league leader teammates than anyone from '90-'98. So he had the most "help" by far. If you stripped every star from their respective teams in the 90's, the Bulls without MJ would be the best supporting cast. Nice try, I guess. Pippen & MJ played 116 games in their 6 title runs. Pippen beat out MJ in totals in rebounds, assists, steals & blocks. TALK ABOUT HELP!
@@LeHitler😂
Lehitler crying out here tryna ride bron 🥩 in peace 😭😂
Nobody claims MJ had no help. But saying allstar teammates like it was multiple guys is being disingenuous. It was literally one guy Scottie Pippen. Also Rodman led the league in rebounds 3 times as MJ's teammate. Malone had Stockton who led the league in assist and steals 8 times in total from 90 to 98. Finally for all the incredible help you claim MJ had his supporting cast was outscored by his opponents best players supporting cast in all 6 NBA finals he played in. Can't say the same for LeBron. I've seen Wade Kyrie and AD either outscore their opponents' best player or LeBron himself in the finals. Talk about help.
"facts over feelings"....on this channel ??! Man you guys are plain hilarious...😂
I saw something in another video that puts things into perspective when people say LeBron James faced tougher competition in the NBA finals than Michael Jordan faced. True, MJ never had to face an NBA champion juggernaut team like the mid-2010s Warriors (whom LBJ managed to beat only ONCE in 4 finals). But that's because MJ's Bulls WERE the NBA champion juggernaut team that kept all the other teams from winning rings. So the video asked this question: Which is more impressive - LBJ beating the juggernaut team of his era ONCE in FOUR finals; or MJ's team BEING the juggernaut team of his era which won SIX of SIX NBA finals? Because MJ's Bulls did something the mid-2010s Warriors were unable to do - 3-peat. And MJs bulls did this TWICE!
So, NO, winning ONE finals and LOSING THREE to the Warriors does NOT make LBJ the GOAT, nor does going 4 of 6 in Finals make the Warriors a better team than the 1990s Bulls teams lead by MJ that 3-peated TWICE. In all 6 Finals he played, MJ was CLEARLY the best player on the court, while in all 6 of LBJs finals losses SOMEONE ELSE was the best player on the court, and in at least one (2011) LBJ wasn't even the best player on his own team.
To paraphrase the self-proclaimed "Chosen One": "This right here shows EVERYONE that LBJ is NOT the Goat."
That’s what I’m always saying to those delusional Bron fans. How can other teams build their dynasty if there’s a conquering team that kept dismantling them. And they will make a notion that the Bulls played in a weak era. Well it’s just a logical way to understand that, because they’re not good enough to defeat the conquering team (the Bulls).
Kobe and Shaq done it.
Name one time Curry or Durant outplayed LeBron. If all you care about is rings, then why isn’t Bill Russell the goat
Love your videos! After watching one I find myself looking forward to the next one! I wish I could get my LeBron loving friends to watch em but they don’t want to face the truth.
My favorite is when he pretended to go back to Cleveland because of a “promise”. When in reality, it was because he knew Miami was finished, and he got word that the Cavaliers were going to pick up Kevin love to go with Kyrie Irving making the big three in Cleveland. Golden State, while having an impressive record for the regular season, a big three they did not have. No way Draymon “triple single” green is on the level to complete a trio labeled “big 3”. Lebron in no way carried that stacked Cleveland team. Regardless of what the sports media would have you believe
BEST channel on RUclips.
Documentary quality roasting.
I admit I'm a RUclips junkie and therefore watch a lot of content creators. That said, I look forward to your videos more than any other creator!
You're the man!
Keep up the great work!
DON'T FORGET THAT 2/3 OF THE TEAMS YOU PLAY IN A SEASON (82 Games) ARE IN YOUR SAME CONFERENCE!!! Those 60 win Cavs teams are barely 50 win teams in the West!!!
Not even
More like 40 win teams
This man is having me crying at work.# Honesty with humor
If LeBrons legacy isn't dead yet.......it's in a coma....This dude is beating lebrons legacy into a unrecognizable corpse.
Lmao
lol
FACTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think he's been conjuring every dark magic to bring back some undead dream from the grave.
U really think youtube videos can hurt lebron...this dude ain't nobody
Dont tell me about who you carried to the finals if you didnt carry them all the way to a championship!!
FACTS!! RAY ALLEN SAVED HIS ASS IN 2013 AND THE NBA COMMISSIONER SAVED HIS ASS IN 2016. FAKE CHAMPIONSHIPS.
Who won the FMVP
And they made the play-in tournament just to save LeBuns
Dont forget kyrie bailing lebron out by hitting a three in stephs grill to give the cavs the lead late
Awesome!!!! I had been waiting for somebody to detail the eastern conference and how weak it was during that era. You did it Sir so brilliantly!
Thank you!
0:52 Dude, that was the most accurate sentence about this whole debate. Thank you bro.
Everything this video covered is what I’ve been saying for years! Excellent breakdown good to know I’m not the only one who feels the way I do.
MJ had more All-NBA/DEF & All-Star teammates, as well as award winners & league leader teammates than anyone from '90-'98. So he had the most "help" by far. If you stripped every star from their respective teams in the 90's, the Bulls without MJ would be the best supporting cast. Nice try, I guess. Pippen & MJ played 116 games in their 6 title runs. Pippen beat out MJ in totals in rebounds, assists, steals & blocks. TALK ABOUT HELP!
"Feels" the way I do. Yall really in your feelings.
@@LeHitler you talk like its not a difference only by decimals yet MJ almost doubled the points. Its so funny has casuals only rely on stats yet don't know how a leader should be. MJ is a shooting guard who prioritizes scoring. He held his teammates to fulfill their roles. Instead of waiting for a defensive rebound he runs on the other end for an easy basket trusting his Big guys get the rebound. Pippen was partly has the role of a PG where he runs the triangle offense as MJ goes on the post, that's where he got most of his assist. If you really wanna see who hustles more check MJ and Lebron's offensive rebounds and steals. lol.. Lebron in his 21 years haven't reached MJ in Offensive boards despite being bigger. Lol.. Lebron gets freebies from making his centers boxout for him like WB and Harden and SF tends to get the rebound on missed free throws. You don't know a crap in a team game and how it works. Educate yourself. lmao..
@@Lovechie4life MJ did score more, he also led the league in attempts 9x. I would hope he'd lead his team in scoring if he's shooting so much more than anyone else. Just for perspective, LeBron has NEVER led the league in attempts. No one since MJ has even led more than 5x. MJ & Malone played 6 games in the '98 Finals, MJ shot 50 more attempts than Malone. That's 2 games worth of shots. MJ was a volume shooter. Efficient, but volume nonetheless. MJ also didn't have to do anything but score, so he played with more energy to even wanan crash the glass offensively. LeBron has to do virtually everything for his team, so he preserves his energy. Doesn't mean he isn't capable. You idiots even comparing a 38 year old in his 21st season to prime MJ, says everything. MJ was retired by year 15 AFTER he took off 3 years already. Pathetic.
Kobe and Lakers would have spanked his ass in the finals
UNDENIABLE!!
Yup Kobe and shaq 2 of the top 10 players of all time vs lebron James the goat 🤣
You do know that Kobe got embarrassed by Dirk the same season the LeBron did right? Kobe is to blame for us not getting to see that finals
LeBron’s fans love looking at stats. This video shows the real stats! The myth is broken!
Post Kobe Achilles, the 1 seed warriors won 73-9 2 seed spurs went 67-15! The okc thunder went 58-24 and 4th seed the lob city clippers 53-29 , talk about competition, the three peat in 2900 -01-02 for the lakers rank as the hardest the 2nd hardest and 4th hardest roads to a championship ever. Jimmyxroller has the video.
I remember this period well. You laid it out exactly as his run in the east happened.
Can’t wait tell you do a video of the 04’ Olympics and 06’ Fiba games where the Lebron era guys got waxed by no named plumbers especially 06’ 😅 I have made memes on Facebook about this and the Lebron fans literally are in tears when I show them the actual international non nba plumbers that waxed the Lebron era players in 04’ and 06’ it’s crazy but for some reason the Lebron fans think that Lebron could hang with the dream team 😭😭😂😂
Kobe came and save the Queens ass lol
@@jjohnson4013 FACTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND LEBRON HAD DUNCAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THINK ABOUT THAT HE HAD DUNCAN AND GOT BRONZE TWICE, NOT EVEN GOOD ENOUGH FOR SILVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LMAOOOO
And here's the funny thing, LOW IQ clowns think Bron would've won MORE rings than Kobe did with Shaq! LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
If he got BRONZE TWICE with Duncan, he aint winning NADA with Shaq a paint clogger who occludes the rim because he cant space the floor with midrange shooting.
2007 Spurs SWEPT Lebron in 2007 (and Bron Bron had a LOT of help in that series, his TEAMMATES played AMAZING defense and kept every single game close, average margin of victory was ~6 points, but Bron shot below 40% and led all players in TOs, a common theme in his Finals runs that nobody talks about - he's a TURNOVER MACHINE).
2008 Kobe GENTLEMAN SWEEPS THE SAME SPURS TEAM THAT SWEPT LeSteroids (remember, he takes EPO and HGH) 4-1.
2009 Orlando beats LeEPO 4-2, Kobe GENTLEMAN SWEEPS THEM 4-1.
2010 Boston beats LeHGH 4-2, Kobe COMES BACK from a deficit 3-2 and wins BACK TO BACK elimination games to beat Boston 4-3 while OUTREBOUNDING the entire Celtics team in game 7, 15 rebounds, the next closest Celtic had 10.
KOBE WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY better than Lebron.
In fact, anybody who tells me they have Lebron over Kobe i IMMEDIATELY lose respect for their intellect. It's the greatest IQ test ever:
Kobe or Lebron
Simple: High IQ people pick Kobe because they understand that WINNING isn't reducible to a box score; low IQ people pick Lebron because they fetishize decontextualized stats that often had no real-time effect on WINNING.
I could write a whole article on this.
@@feynmanschwingere_mc2270 i agree also Kobe beat those team with less help and without a top 75 player. While Lebron had to build súper team with all star and hall of famers to win a chip
LeBron: I'm so great I can play 1-5
Magic: That's good LeBron but have you ever won a championship while playing center?
Lebron won a chip playing point guard so…..
@@thatkidmason999 Hes been a point guard his whole CAREER lol
@@thatkidmason999
And magic didn't?
@@GMoneyXL1969
That clown is really liking his own comments 😂😂😂
@thepubknight6144
Damn. I wish the person would really do his research and see that Magic ran the Showtime Lakers.
Thanks for spitting all the knowledge and facts, I appreciate it and I'm sure a lot of others do also, thanks for pointing out all the Kobe facts we know he is far beyond LeBron
Bro PLEASE keep putting these videos out...literally EVERYTHING you said was on point..
They always like to bring up the 8 straight finals appearance but never want to bring up no other eastern team would have won a chip. That was probably the Weakest the eastern conference has been in my lifetime and im almost 50
Exactly right. Put Kobe in the East with Smush Parker and Kwame brown in 2007 and he woulda got to the finals.
@@skap_attack Let's give LeBum some credit...he knew he was taking the easy route....why else would he predict over 7 championships 😅😅
@@bwink23true LeBum thought too highly of themselves proclaiming 7 championships only winning 2/4 and leaving as soon as he saw the writing on the wall. Goat indeed goes on another team
@@skyMcWeeds Should have been 1 for 3 by LeBum's own pathetic shooting hand.
Bosh knew that sh1t would get LeBricked, put himself in position to feed a REAL shooter in Ray Allen to save LeBum's a$$.
@@skap_attackwe can’t do that. We can talk about how Kobe blew a 3-1 lead to the suns and quit on his team in a game 7…
Idk how much this guy is making from RUclips, but he needs a raise
Hard to look past how the Pistons passed up Melo, that paved the way for LeRoids
😂😂😂
Longevity made by eating anabolic chicken 🍗💊
@@bosyogurtlight 😂💀
@@bosyogurtlight looks like LeRoids be sharing that anabolic chicken 🍗🐔 with the kids
They won a ring 🤷🏾♂️
Amazing! Its about time someone brought out the truth of the Eastern conference during Lebron James' streak to the finals! I grew up watching NBA in the late 90s to present. I noticed that the Western conference in the 2000s to the mid-2010s were dog fights! Thank you again for the real videos!
I just dont see why analyst even place this guy as #2 as the greatest ever. This guy does NOT belong in top 5. Maybe even TOP 10
Most media analysts don't have actual opinions. They have writing teams.
He might qualify as a top ten Laker, unless you only count what he’s done AS a Laker, then no, that moves him out.
Lebron sends them gifts or gets them in his payroll.
@@phillipcummings3518 MJ had more All-NBA/DEF & All-Star teammates, as well as award winners & league leader teammates than anyone from '90-'98. So he had the most "help" by far. If you stripped every star from their respective teams in the 90's, the Bulls without MJ would be the best supporting cast. Nice try, I guess. Pippen & MJ played 116 games in their 6 title runs. Pippen beat out MJ in totals in rebounds, assists, steals & blocks. TALK ABOUT HELP!
I’ll give you Jordan because he is the greatest, name the other 9? I’m interested
I was expecting the “I want my damn respect” clip at 9:24 😂
This man has done more for basketball community in the last 4 months than Adam Silver has in 4 years. Well done my man. Well done.
Meat gobbler
@@thatkidmason999 just recognize quality content and a bad commissioner when I see it Lol 😂 thanks for checking in though 😎👉👉
@@thatkidmason999 Bronsexual 😁
@@gavincampbell7488 Adam silver doesn’t donate and fund the wnba?
@@thatkidmason999LeBum kid....forever LeBum...even when you grow old. Watch his legacy age like sour milk...and your attitude turn to sour grapes
My guy is putting out fantastic entertainment with these videos. Very well done, keep it coming.
Yes sir! 💪 🫡 and thank you for tuning in 🙏❤️
Can you do Curry better than Lebron?
@@nbacontents354 I am not a big curry fan. I’ve done a few but nowhere near as well as I’ve covered Lebron. I am thinking a curry video could be coming soon.
@@skap_attack whatever best my man!!!
@@skap_attack
That clip of LeBron hitting his chest is the same hand he "broke" after the cavs lost to Gs in the finals 😂😂😂
People forgot in the early 21st century when division title was thing 50 wins did not guarantee a a play off spot in the west
It was more the late 2000s the thunder won 50 games and were the 8th seed
When it's all said and done I GUARANTEE that in the future, REAL basketball heads will speak the truth that lebum isn't even a top 5 player to ever exist in the NBA. Facts facts and more facts will be unveiled and change of hearts will happen.
Guaranteed!
facts!!!!!!!!!
Not saying Wilt is similar to LeBron but his career was similar, he was hyped as the goat for years until the mid 80s
Wilt unlike lebron wasn't full of himself , played defense and only went to the Lakers because he knew he didn't need to be the leader there and was their defensive anchor
LeBron would never do that
When you have bench warmers like Kyle Korver making the All-star and the strongest team was a Ben Wallace-less aging Pistons team during Lefraud's purportedly "dominance", you know it's garbage. The average SRS during Lefraud's Eastern Conference run was around 2.3. Typical championship teams are around 6 to 8 SRS.
Bravo...It's hilarious how the Lebots don't even attempt to defend him when factual information is displayed 😂
You mean when information is given without context 😂 Lebrons the goat and if videos like this make y’all happy then enjoy
When was context not applied plz inform me
@@MeezyfBaby
Sure hope he appreciates how loyal his boytoys are
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@@MeezyfBabydude is horrible
@@Michael-mt6yb There is no sense arguing with a bronsexual. They don't listen to reason or bother to look up the information for themselves.
Most underrated NBA channel right now. You’re hilarious bro.
I'm extremely curious to see how the NBA community 20-30 years in the future will evaluate LeBron's legacy.
You already know how it goes. the Instagram kids will say he played with plumbers in a weak era or some crap. But in all seriousness, I think when people look at lebron and Jordan without the recency bias of seeing either of them play they’ll look at Jordan as the more accomplished player (because he is).
@@jarlbalgruuf7701
It's gonna die down and then they'll try to find another black NBA player they'll use to compare Jordan to
At this point, it's beating a dead horse. But, keep beating, brother!😂
No,he is cremating the dead horse of LeBrons legacy......or perhaps dropping it in a vat of acid.....this dude is out to remove all traces of his legacy. The relentless brutality.
@@jonthomson9262it’s not changing anything 😂
@@Angel-xw6js this gives Jordan fans like me that actually live in reality.....even more ammo to add to an already massive arsenal against delusional LeBron fan,not as if we actually needed more ammo for this fraudulent, media driven debate. Lol 😂 😂 😂 😂
@@Angel-xw6js just accept LeBron is top 5,before we decide to drop him even lower. Lol 😂 😂.......has LeBron even surpassed Larry or Magic????? Lol 😂 😂
@@jonthomson9262 bigot
First words out of brons mouth when he won a chip was: "about damn time". He felt entitled to win. He tries to carefully craft his bogus image. But his true personality shows when he gets emotional. I appreciate the humor you put into vids that expose how fraudulent his accomplishments are compared to other all time greats
Your delusional. taking that quote as entitlement is wildly innaccurate falsehood just as every video on this channel
@adityayellapragada1180 that statement is textbook entitlement. You made a statement that has no factual basis. You ride Bron and hearing the truth Hurts your little feelings. Sorry to give you more facts
@@d.columbia9603 The real "riding" is scrutinizing another person to this outrageous extent. You doing some real dickriding lil bro 😂
Man, being a hater of an random guy is truly something remarkable to see. This entire RUclips comment section has be cracking up. I don’t know who’s more toxic and delusional. LeBron fans or your crazy LeBron haters 🤣
Have you covered Lebron's connection to that PED scandal when he was in Miami? Would be interested to see a video on that for sure.
A majority of professional athletes use PEDs. Lebron is known for spending roughly 1.5 to 3 million dollars on health and welfare. How much does a personal trainer and a chef cost? Not even close to a million dollars.
Just keep pulling the dirt on LeBrons Legacy. Lol 😂 😂
@jonthomson9262 honestly I don't hate lebron or anything. It's just a topic that I haven't seen covered in detail and it's important to look into since some people believe he's the greatest player of all time.
@@abender06 I totally agree with you......but the media and the n.b.a. don't want that to happen. LeBron has been the face of the n.b.a.(along with steph curry and Kobe Bryant) for the past 20 years.....an entire generation would be tarnished......but if he is or has ever been on p.e.d.s it needs to be exposed to the world.
Hey bro, great content. The eye test never lied. Just glad you could validate what most of us witnessed.
I appreciate that! And I appreciate you tuning in 🙏❤️
I still think the league screwed over Melo in the draft with that random move to Denver instead of Detroit so that LeBron would have an easier path in the Eastern Conference. Melo in Detroit would have made it harder for the league's chosen one to dominate in the East and he would have won a championship his first year in Detroit and they probably would have beaten the Spurs in 2005 (Detroit lost in that 2005 Finals because they lacked offense which was what Melo could have given them). Plus, Melo should have won Rookie of the Year, he had the same numbers as LeBron that season, plus he made the playoffs in the tougher conference while LeBron missed the playoffs in a weaker conference.
And LeBron had no business getting swept in the 07 Finals. The Spurs didn't dominate in that series, the games were close, Duncan and Ginobli played average and Parker basically carried the team. LeBron got outplayed by Daniel Gibson off the bench game 1 and then had the most turnovers in the entire Finals. He had help from his teammates but he couldn't close out the games. Mind you, the last 2 games in Cleveland, the Spurs won game 3 by 3 points and game 4 by 1 point.
LeBron had no business losing in 2015 when he was up 2-1 without Kyrie and Love and he allowed Iggy to come off the bench and change the series....SMH!!! And 2018 was no excuse either for getting swept. The Cavs could have won game 1 in overtime but LeBron had a meltdown and quit on his team instead of leading his team in overtime for the win and game 3 was winnable because Steph, Klay and Draymond played like garbage with 27 points COMBINED and KD literally had to carry the game for the Warriors. Plus, Love was dominating in the first half and Rodney Hood was playing well but LeBron wanted to play heroball and didn't want to let Rodney shine and stopped feeding Love the ball in the 2nd half. LeBron wanted to get to swept to justify leaving the Cavs AGAIN on the guise that "he had no help" narrative. And the fake cast in the game 4 postgame claiming he hurt his hand to justify ANOTHER FINALS SWEEP yet was doing a 2 handed dunk in game 3 and was dapping his boys with that same hand game 4 was RIDICULOUS...SMH!!!
The league screwed the bulls too not allowing melo to join D rose and butler to prolong LeBron run in the east.
Add on top of this that Lebron has benefitted probably more than any other play from having the best players he might go against get injured and derail competitive teams. First we had D Rose get injured on the Bulls, who were unquestionably the biggest competition the Heat were going to have for years to come. And were a team that always gave Lebron fits under Thibs. After his first taste of the eastern conference finals in 2011 and losing to the Heat, the Bulls were primed to take over as the best team in the east, just for Rose to get injured and the bulls to fade away. The same thing happened with Paul George and the Pacers, who also became the biggest competitor to the Heat and were on the rise, just for George to break his leg and the Pacer team to disintegrate after that. Then of course we have the Chris Bosh situation, which completely derailed the post Lebron Heat that was becoming competitive again with new players. And subsequently lead to Wade bailing to go join Lebron again.
I can't think of another player in history that has ever benefitted from more top level players in his own conference having devastating injuries that derailed top contenders more than Lebron. And as you said, with so few star players in the East to begin with, when you have one of them and they go down, its disproportionally impactful to your team.
I always like to say yes LeBron has faced better competition in the finals but Michael Jordan’s road to the finals and overall competition to get there was harder
Championship runs and finals runs are about more than just the final series. Lebron is under .500 in the most important series, BUT he NEVER would have been to all of those series if it wasn’t for the laughably pathetic competition he faced in his conference. Put Kobe in that conference from 1998-2013, he would have gone to 10.
@@skap_attack Not to mention, LeBum was superteaming with the Top players from his own conference....further weakening an already raggedy LEastern Conference. And who doesn't get enough fanfare are the sharpshooting role players surrounding their 3-headed monster.
LeBum!!!
The reason people consider Jordan's Finals competition weaker is because none of them had won championships before. The reason they didn't have rings is because they couldn't beat Jordan. The competition wasn't softer Jordan was just hands down better. There is a Hall of Famer on every team Jordan beat in the finals.
How and when did he face harder and better competition? Come on stop this nonsense.
@skap_attack LAUGHABLY!!
We're talking about the "40 win Hornets" of the world....
Meanwhile, Dirk had KG, Duncan and Shaq to contend with..
Any chance you can do a video on his size changes and "longevity"? Take a look at him just before he went to Miami. Then look at how big he got when he was there. Then, somehow, he shrunk when he left. And some have said that he just happened to hit the gene pool lottery, which is some explanation of his decades long career. But we all know better...
Imagine calling 90s players "plumbera" while shilling for someone who "dominated" the Eastern Conference.
Epically laughable and hypocritical.
JJ Barea is the plumber who put LeFraud to his place. The Delicious irony.
@@Nix-qq5je🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
LeBron
05-06 Lost to DPOY
06-07 Lost in Finals
07-08 Lost to DPOY
08-09 Lost to DPOY as MVP
09-10 Lost in ECSF as MVP
10-11 Beat MVP Rose, Lost Finals
11-12 Beat DPOY as MVP
12-13 Won as MVP
13-14 Lost Finals
14-15 Lost to MVP
15-16 Beat MVP
16-17 Lost to DPOY
17-18 Lost in Finals
18-19 No playoffs
19-20 Won Finals covid bubble
20-21 Lost 1st rnd
vs DPOY 1-4
vs MVP 2-1
Finals recrd 4-6
03-04 no playoffs
04-05 no playoffs
In other words he loss way more than he won. Good thing he had 6 hall of famers to play with or he’d be ringless.
@@Mike1122. Wade, Bosh, Kyrie, Love, Ray Allen, AD, Westbrook, Dwight.
I see 8. Kevin Love will get in HOF after few more ties. maybe not 1st ballot.
remember, Dwight has 3 DPOY awards as franchise in Orlando in his best year.
Dwight might be 1st ballot HOF'er.
Dude i love you. These videos are the best. Don't stop.
i need to know when we started giving participation trophies??? going to 10 finals and only winning 4 is beyond a failing number... 20 years in the league on 3 different good/superteams and only winning 4 titles is crazy where jordan played 11 healthy seasons on the bulls and went went to the finals 6 times winning all 6 wit 2 3 peats and being the only allstar on the team.. people need to knock it off... bron gettin swept TWICE in the finals is where the goat convo was done for him... bron not even top 10 in his own era let alone top 10 of all time CTFU... stop it get some help.
This is exactly what I try to explain to my friends. They just don’t get it. They bring up 2018 and say “MJ never had to carry a team like that”
He didn’t “carry a team” lol. He was BY FAR the best player on by far the best teams for the vast majority of his time in the pitiful east. Then he lost over half of the time he got into the finals. Just show your friends this video lol
Jordan never had to carry team meanwhile Jordan never had a teammate that could avg more then 23ppg.
How many guys did LeBron play with? LeBron had three teammates drop 30+ points in the finals.
Pippen scored 30+ points once. You can argue that two of LeBron's teammates deserve the finals mvp. Anthony Davis SHOULD have won finals mvp over LeBron. Avg more blocks, steals, offensive rebounds, less turnovers and completely shut down the paint while avg 25ppg.
That series should have been a sweep, but wasn't because LeBron played zero defense on Butler
@@MikeBNumba6 👆🏻💯 straight facts
@@MikeBNumba6 FACTS!!!!!!!!!! In FACT, 4 Finals MVPs came DIRECTLY vs LeFraud:
2014 Kawhi (SF)
2015 Iggy (SF)
2017 KD (SF)
2018 KD (SF)
Fraud king indeed.
Dayumm awesome vid man! Never knew how weak the east were in the playoffs. Most kids nowadays always see the stats but fail to view the context. If other great players played in the east they mightve had better numbers in the playoffs than what theyve had.
All his real completion was slightly older than him while he was blessed with a durable body, played in a weaker conference, played against a generation that looks up to him, created super teams. All that to end up with 4 chips in 20 yrs. We all knew from when he came in the league based on his physique/work ethic that he would have a long career which would equate to him breaking longevity records. If he had broken them in record time it would be more impressive but he broke them only cuz he played for a long time.
Davis should've gotten that mvp for the bubble chip
Clueless
FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He was their best player in that bubble 💯
@@mikeRedMDK2032 dont lie to uself lmfao
CAP. If it was the entire playoffs, then sure. But Lebron was easily better in the Finals.
THANK YOU!!! I've been shouting these same sentiments for nearly a ten years now
Lebron brought all of this down on himself.
He entered the league with years of people pumping up his ego already.
He feels entitled to...well...everything, AND he has made sure that everyone KNOWS that he is entitled.
He looks more and more like a stat guy and not a team guy as time goes on.
He has the league in his back pocket and everyone knows it-and he's OK with that.
All Time Greats:
Don't have to tell you how great they are
Don't tell you they are the GOAT
Don't have to tell you to respect them
Don't team-shop chasing rings
DO make the players around them better
DO sacrifice for the team
DO take the team on their shoulders to win championships when they have to
LJ is a good player, but not an All-Time Great.
How is the all time scoring leader not an all time great?
@@JukkaRamo nigga everybody has leaked on defense 😭😭😭
seek therapy
Keep these videos coming, bro! So many people are delusional. They need to know!
bro.... how you forget about the 62 and 20 chicago bulls team???
He only got past them because of the stacked heat team though.
@@robinweber9640 yes I know.. my point is why would not include them in this vid.. ig I get the pacers since the heat had to go thru them twice in 12 and 13 but Chicago is relevant to this conversation too.. their fall off was SO damn hard though and that's too damn bad
Lebron Wade and Bosh as teammates were suppesed to win 8.. What happened??
@@billybadass3056 LEASTERN CONFERENCE. That Bulls team is a 6th seed in the West. Stop tripping.
@@kaybigg tf that has to do with my point? are you 8??
Great video man, keep em comin. Atleast someone is telling the truth.... gotta have some kind of counter balance to the bullshit they spew on tv.
Facts!
Your videos are so well-done!! I think everyone who loves basketball deserves to watch
Damn bros kid just went into cardiac arrest and your making this
Also why do u always complain about sports media talking about lebron, why keep tuning in to watch if you dont wanna here about lebron.
These are some crazy interesting numbers. Context matters. He is a great player. I just wish his cult were more honest with their takes. Great job once again. Hopefully this brings some balance to these arguments.
Here's some more. Lebron is 3rd in minutes and 10th in games played all time but ranks 176th all time in fouls. Noone else on those top 10 lists ranks lower than 30th in fouls. Lebron has less fouls than Jordan and Isiah despite playing 349 and 500 more games than those players.
@@mikerobinson6969 so he never played defense
@@mikerobinson6969 This indicates what to you? To me, it seems he rests a lot of the defensive side. Chase down blocks are great. It just seems guarding someone head up..one on one wasn't his strongest suit.
@@daymunsdayz that and how he gets HOF bias from the refs.
@@phillipcummings3518 he did but not for a sustained time. He's made the all defensive team 30% of his career. And the last 5-6 years he's really slacked off even more
People acting like LeBron was the GM of every team in the Eastern Conference 🤣. Is it LeBron’s fault that the other 14 teams sucked at drafting and trading for their franchises to give his Heat and Cavs any form competition? Hate LeBron all you want but I never got the logic of the weak conference argument. It says more about the other front offices in allowing LeBron to sleepwalk to conference championships and finals appearances 🤷🏽♂️
Stop the bullshit you sound super fried 😂😂😂😂😂 yooo yall lebron fans are DELUSIONAL 😂
I have to like this video before I have even watched it because you always bring the heat! 😂👍
And I am a lifelong Lakers fan! Kobe, and Showtime are my favorite of all time.
I don’t care how good or bad or overrated Lebron is. His politics are awful and wrong.
What game is that at 8:14 when Kobe holding his jersey i ask bc i know thats where 2K cover came from
A 2008 playoff game against the nuggets
This another Master piece Skap!! Keep the truth coming man, im here for it. 💪🏾#Godswork
I know I can always count on you to show up for me here 💪 🙏❤️
@@skap_attack 💯
In all honesty all of his finals runs have been underwhelming. It was his Superstar teammates that came in clutch during those finals.
Not a single one of his 10 finals runs were impressive in the least. He played great teams in the finals, sure. Kobe and Duncan had to play those teams 3 times out of 4 opponents every year to just get into the finals. We should celebrate them.
would have never beat the Spurs without Ray Allen coming in clutch. I've been a Heat fan for a long time now and I've never seen a player disappear and look the way Lebron looked in those finals games. Dude goes ghost mode and his face looks like he knows it to.
@@Arigato-Mister-Roboto 🛎️💯😂
@@Arigato-Mister-Robotoso lebron hit the three before that that set the ray Allen shot up but unclutch I guess 16 in the 4th is unclutch
@@thatkidmason999They say anything
The NBA has been ruined because of this guy. Forming Super Teams destroying competition, that's why the NBA is so pathetic nowadays.
Lol. The only difference between LeBron and MJ's "superteams" was that MJ actually had a competent front office and, aside from the first three Heat years, better teammates. The NBA isn't pathetic at all. You just like to hate.
You do such a good job with pulling out mind-blowing statistics, and thanks for bringing back the sweeping guy! 😆
You are the Jordan of Nba Takes
0:30 He was trippin on Jupiter or something bro. 😂😂😂😂😂
This is much needed information! Thank you
Everyone always say jordan had pippen like thats even that great. Pippen is like the 3rd most overrated player in nba history behind LeBron and curry. He was a good defender and thats it and not even the best defensive player on his team for the second threepeat.
Bro, did we just become best friends…YEP! Those are my 3 most overrated players in nba history and in that exact order.
Yeah Pippen was garbage and Larry Hugues was the real hall of famer!
Actually LeBron is 3-6 in NBA Finals and 1-0 in Disney tournaments.
lol yes
If Jordan won in the bubble y’all would’ve counted it. Lemme guess lebron started the pandemic too??
Yep and Mj could make The playoffs with 30 wins just like he did in the 80s when he was getting smacked
@@jaylenflanagan1295 ye nobody cares he made the playoffs going 30-52 Bron has never had a record as bad
@@thatkidmason999Nah it wouldn't have counted and he'd be criticized too. The bubble shouldn't have happened
You will be big as espn one day I can feel it , you’re bringing facts back to basketball ,one day will hear your voice on national tv,please keep up the good work ,god told me to tell u thank u.hahah .appreciate you sir