How to set up LFO’s in Cubase | Q&A with Greg Ondo
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- Low frequency oscillation (LFO) is frequently used to rhythmically modulate or alter sound to make it more interesting. In this video Greg demonstrates how to quickly set up LFOs, using the automation in Cubase, to produce effects such as changing filters and cut off, as well as using it for plug-ins that do not respond to MIDI CC messages.
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Steinberg should make this dead simple, just like in ableton. Make and LFO vst plugin, that can connect with other plugins in the chain.
Still waiting for it...
Couldn't agree more. Still not there in 2022
@@jmdodge yes indeed!
I was searching on the internet on how use an LFO to modulate plugins in cubase.
Hello Cubase it's 2023 now. It's already past due! They really should improve these types of workflow stuff. I'll probably stick to Version 12 till they fix it. And Auto LFO is always synced to bpmand only goes to 1/16 note. Not very handy if you wanna smoothly wanna automate the lfo though.
"So this is an EASY way to setup LFOs..." wouldn't want to see the hard way
🤣😂😅
That is a thing that should get easier in some upcoming versions.
it never ceases to amaze me how ever expanding Cubase is, it just never ends
I'm afraid you'd die of amazement if you ever tried Bitwig. This is so convoluted & unnecessarily complex.
@@Artek604 Right! This Learn CC stuff is so awkward and complicated. A true LFO VST Plugin would be much better and easier to make LFO stuff.
I really appreciate Greg! And I'm a certified Steinberg trainer myself for the last 10 years. Yet, this video just proves hard far behind cubase is...things that should be so simple are so cumbersome to the point of being not usable. This video uses such ridiculously cumbersome workarounds....please wake up Steinberg, your losing it.
This an awesome, yet old (Cubase SX I think), and cumbersome feature. Specially because this MIDI LFO is limited by 128 steps from MIDI resolution VS the "full" resolution of an automation based LFO, like the one on Ableton Live with Max4Live. This means that everything you modulate will have a "steppy" quality to it. Please, catch up with everyone else.
1:25 You don't need this MIDI-CONTROL-effect first. Choose directly the AutoLFO and select an unused controller there. Then right-click for example on Cut-Off in Retrologue and choose LEARN CC. Afterwards press play. And there you have it !
In general I think is this to complicated and limited! A good idea for an update in Cubase Pro10 !!!
BITWIG, ABLETON, WAVEFORM 9 - and others: they all can do this with 2-3 clicks.
the midi control was just for demonstration purposes I think, not a necessary step.
I gotta say: Love Cubase, But Bitwig, TSC Waveform, even Logic are light years beyond this. Definitely an area ripe for an update.
a huge +1 here
jesus can't that get any more complicated?? midi loopback??? seriously steinberg guys wtf?
probably more likely something to do with windows
He is on a mac.
It's a three-click operation in Reaper, and one-click in Bitwig, Live, and FL Studio. In each of them, you merely select any arbitrary parameter in the plug-in's parameter list, right-click and assign an LFO or any modulator to it. The "16-click and install 3rd party software" solution by Steinberg is fairly ridiculous by comparison.
Yes, and you can't save the loopback with the project, nor give the project to anyone else, without them also having the same kind of loopback. I work cross-platform, and features like this are just unusable because they're not portable. Hopefully a Cubase 10 internal implementation.
I agree. I'm waiting for this functionality for so long and I was excited when he mentioned how to do it then he said about midi loopback... Godamit this video is a shame for Cubase :/
Greg you are brilliant. Every time I see your videos, I learn something new. Have been using Cubase for a long time and I'm amazed by the depth of features in Cubase
Amazing video! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge, Greg
Ive used cubase for 20 years. Didn’t know about this 🙂
luckystrke me too. Been Cubase user for 12 years and never heard of it.
Me neither
I've used Cubase for at least 10 years and considered myself an expert/power user. Didn't know about this either lol
I knew about it, but it's kinda useless since all VST synths provide their own internal LFOs. The midi loopback it's ridiculous.
Nice. We´ve been doing this all sorts of other ways. Cheers.
I love Cubase but other DAWs offer proper system-wide LFO features and not a workaround/afterthought. To call this easy (especially in the case of implementing external MIDI and General Remote) is kinda ridiculous... A very simple solution would be to add an LFO plugin that targets all the channel's automation-enabled controls (just like Quick Control), or at least have an LFO that targets the Quick Control.
Wow! I've wanted to know how to do something like this for ages! Literally years. Didn't know it was doable!
Just what I was looking for when I discovered cableguys. I wish it could be more obvious in the future though, because this is something I didn't think Cubase had (which I thought was strange. ) Thanks for the vid!
Very good content as usual. I did not know Cubase had the LFO feature, this will save me a lot of creative time. :)
Thank you so much this is exactly what I've been looking for :)
Thank you
Yet another great video - thanks, Greg.
Wow. That was cool. Thanks Greg!
Thanks Greg for another great video
Wow it's a great feature that I've never heard about. Tnx Greg.
Great set of tips...wow...will have fun experimenting with synths n midi controllers too as I believe all can be set to work together ...cool Thx Greg!.Always great tutorials!
Nice, But I already have generic remote setup with my keyboard controller. Will, Cubase implement a few Universal LFOs and Envelope controllers in one the zone areas.
Thanks for that Greg. Never knew about that.
Really I'm The same. Fantastic Tutorial on LFO's Greg. Another Intricate Tutorial On Aspects of Cubse that some people never knew could exist in Cubase. Another one is Side Chaining. I am starting to learn about Side Chaining. So If you could do a Club Cubase on Side Chaining and cover everything on it , With having Multiple Group Folders and with all the effects and Automation. Please & Thanks. But Great Tutorial Greg. Always Out doing Yourself. Your a Champ.
From now on respect to midi inserts ! Need more videos about midi cc learn . Thanx a lot ! Well done! i wonder ....why so few views!!! ?????????????
Thanks for the tutorial mate, although I have to say that my inspiration would long be dead before setting something like this up. Too complicated for me I'm afraid😮💨😧
Cool, but sounds quite complicated! I'd rather search for presets (bass, pads, etc) who have an LFO already programmed, instead of programming it myself which is kinda awkward and time consuming. I use Cubase 12 Pro, but just read in the comments that other DAWs are light years ahead of this. So Steinberg, give us a LFO VST Plugin!
I love Cubase but it is severely lacking in this area compared to some of its competitors. They need to catchup
Wow, it couldn't be more complicated....
It's a bit strange, that you need an EXTERNAL MIDI loopback-driver instead of cubase supplying an internal MIDI Bus, but anyway that's how it works...
Great explaination! Helps a LOT!
Ralf Nolte yeah, Ableton can do this using LFO tool on any parameter with no loopback or anything. I prefer Cubase overall, but sometimes things are more awkward than they should be.
Yeah, love Cubase and it's very powerful, but i like consistency. You know how to do something in one stock plugin, yet it's different in another which is a little frustrating sometimes...
Hey Greg, seeing as the remote devices is being considered legacy in cubase 12 and onwards, can you do an updated video on this as to how to use the new midi remotes in the lower zone to control non CC vst parameters with auto LFO, thanks
How do you set up LFOs in cubase when working with audio?
This questions needs to be answered. The Auto LFO should work for audio as well.
I think much easier will be just draw automation
Fantastic! Thanks :)
Hey Greg, you could skip MIDI Control as an insert in the first part of your video. Just add AUTO LFO on your midi track, activate Midi Learn on the Cutoff in Retrologue and Midi Learn will connect to the correct Midi CC set in Auto LFO (since its sending continuous control messages anyway)...
This is super easy I Ableton. hit the map and click what you want. I guess every da has their uses and perks!
Take a Look at bitwig modifiers. Way easier. I am missing that in Cubase...
I use LFOs a lot for sound design within Kontakt, so I appreciate the tip. I do wish that the approach for plugins that don't support midi-learn was more straight-forward. I'd rather see that added to future versions of Cubase than a lot of the interface revisions and other features that have been added in the past. It's pretty rare that I'm compelled enough by a new feature to upgrade. The last time I upgraded was because drag and drop functionality was added to mediabay (for dragging samples to plugins like Kontakt).
I've been feature requesting LFO tracks in Cubase for ages and every time a new version comes out I'm disappointed with features that I'll likely not use, or plugins that I don't need!
It's cool that you can do this but it's not user friendly. A dedicated LFO track that you can assign multiple parameters to from any plugin would be awesome, especially if it had an easy to use interface with MSEG window for drawing in LFO shapes.
I feel like Steinberg love making new plugins, making interface tweaks and modifying existing systems but recently they've been a bit slack at coming up with anything new.
i.e in previous versions we had the introduction of chord tracks, vari audio, sampler track, render in place, all of these were great, but it seems there's been nothing ground breaking added since. An LFO track could be that thing, just wished they would listen.
Can I set LFOs to various plugin parameters or is it limited to midi?
What I can do if my computer needs another version of the loop back midi driver?
I've been a cubase user for 20 years and I don't understand why it's all so complicated, the midi plugins are like they were 15 years ago and with the LFO effect, how awkward. Am so jealous of ableton user so many functions made so easy. This Lfo function for electronic music is so important to control effect or plugin with Lfo. I really don't understand why it is made so complicated. A lot of daws go much faster with time, cubase doesn't look at the new generation of users. I see a lot of electronic music tutorials, very rarely that anyone uses cubase. But I still find it difficult to switch, I always hope that everything will be better with the next big update.
I've been wondering how to do this in cubase having seen it done so easily in Ableton videos. This way is typically cubase... overcomplicated but at least now we know how it's done.
great info Greg TU^ 54 ;-) Trevor
Dude I could really do with you doing a video on how to use the HUBI midi driver!
Also, the only available version of HUBI is called midi yoke, and it doesn't work on any other OS thats newer than XP. Can you recommend a different free midi driver?
Sorry this is not an "easy way" is this still so complicated in Cubase 10 ?
Great 👍👌👌👌👌👌👌👌
I wonder why anybody would use an external LFO for Retrologue?? 🤔 I know it's maybe just for the sake of demonstration but it shouldn't get more complicated as it already is... 🙃
Can you set up an auto LFO and then automate the parameters on the auto LFO so that it goes from 1/4 to 1/8 to 1/16 th for example over time?????
attention !!! 6:25 don't close the studio / device-menue before unckecking the LEARN- function!!! This could lead to unpredictable results!
wait, did you mean I should uncheck the learn function and then close? Like, should you just click learn for a second and then switch it off?
Yeah man 😁😎
Can anyone PLEASE tell be how to set up a Digitech Vocalist in Cubase 7, I am using a Focusrite Scarlet 212 audio interface, thanks
Great
how should we impose lfo to audio tracks dude?
I like to think that Greg was rapping over that beat
Hey thanks for the fantastic tip, i tried the second version but i don't know why my lfo output is not contiuous, the meter above the interface shows clearly that the lfo waveform is sent every now and then and it is interrupted by long zones of just maximum output. anyway i find more handy drawing automation by touching plugin interface and recording it, then duplicate the automation data just where i need it. i see an evident limit by the fact that generic midi controller is not saved with the project (is there any method to save its setting with the project)?. what about a feature for cubase 10 a modulation rack with indipendet step sequencers lfs envelopes which could be one click routed to any vst parameter?
I have the same two problems
I was wondering if cubase did the LFO thing but yeah they make you work for it. The thing is Cubase is not set up for Electronic music production. it's a annolog mimicking set up. And they make u hunt for some really simple things. It wants to be and is a do anything DAW,but they need to understand modern music production isn't done in studios with gear but in home studios with plugins,samples and plugin synths.
be good if this was simplified in the next version... .
Ouch. All those steps to set up an LFO on the band pass insert was painful to watch.
I use midiloop back it works for a bit then stops
And there's me struggling with modern plugins that drag and drop connectors from LFOs.
If there a way to do Bass Glides in Retrologue and if so could you show us how? Thanks
When you say bass slides, do you mean portamento?
If so, at the top left of Retrologue, by Poly, there's the Glide switch that you just need to turn on.
Too complicated to use with midi loopback. Just use Cableguys, much more versatile. The auto LFO looks great for Retrologue! How about a more advanced LFO tweaker in Cubase10! Would be awesome!
Way too complicated. But you actually don't need it in Retrologue because there are already 4 versatile LFOs inside which can be assigned to almost everything, so the additional auto lfo plugin is just more complex than the VST-i itself...
Cubase Artist 9.5 has this
Great video, other than the disgustingly loud clipping perc
Reaper wins on this function by far :) built in quick acess no tricks.
OMG 🤦♂️ and he calls it simple. I would forget about my music idea totally if I did what he did
Thank 🙏 you so much Greg you are phenomenal thanks again have a great day and take care also on youtube if you want a relaxing show to watch check out Swedenborg and life in the search field on RUclips peace ✌️
Wow, cubase guy suggests to download third party app in middle of video.. steinberg, this is ugly
Greg trying act like it is cool feature, but i bet he knows (like all of us) that cubase is 20 years behind other DAW about "simple lfo use to any parameter". I still cant believe that in 2021 cubase is sooo lack in this
Classic Steinberg, claiming something that takes 20+ clicks is easy 🙄
This is the easy "way" ???????????. Nah. i have cubase pro 11. and controlling parameters of insert plugins with lfo's with other programs like bitwig is super easy.. Unbelievable that cubase has no flexibility
This is the easy way???????????
Cubase - Lord of the MIDI processing since 1989.... oh except for LFO's....
This many steps to assign an LFO to a filter position is frankly laughable compared to the ease in DAWs like ableton and bitwig's ability to just assign the same LFO to other parameters , then flip polarity and depth if needed , Steinberg if you don't address this in Cubase 11 I may have to switch , Cubase is fantastic but it's still missing creative modulation routing capabilities
So not intuitive. Learn from FL Studio how to do that :)
"very easy to do" lol .. about 10 steps including downloading and installing 3rd party software
So much easier than Ableton LFO.. click map then click anything
what a horrible track to experiment with
come on with the lazy Steineberg Baztrads we are lookig for this in easy native way since cubase 5, so 20 fkn years and not yet?
There's an problem with this solution: The Generic Remote Definitions are project-independent.
When opening a different project the mappings in the lower part of the window (the targets) are mapped to other parameters of other FX in other channels.