Where Armenia went wrong in Artsakh

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  • Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024

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  • @CivilNetTV
    @CivilNetTV  10 месяцев назад

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    • @lucaazeri1700
      @lucaazeri1700 10 месяцев назад +1

      Արցախը լցվել է զուգարան

  • @ykamreki
    @ykamreki 10 месяцев назад +20

    Mr. Hacopian there is a complete mistrust of current government and their intention. the incompetency is at dangerous level. we need a unity government like Israel did.

    • @qlr949
      @qlr949 10 месяцев назад

      All governments are to be mistrust and questioned, or else it's a dictatorship like Baku. Israel does not have unity as you describe it. They have coalitions but Netanyahu is criticize ld hardest in Israel moreso than anywhere else.

    • @inveniamviam00
      @inveniamviam00 10 месяцев назад

      That is simply not true. If elections were today nikol would be reelected again. Anybody who thinks otherwise is simply delusional. So instead of being delusional let's try to work hard and make sure that we have better alternatives in 2026 elections.

    • @shoghik66ca
      @shoghik66ca 10 месяцев назад +1

      can we do it? do we have brain for it...

  • @SezarKeshishian
    @SezarKeshishian 10 месяцев назад +19

    Stay Strong Folks

  • @karinegregorian937
    @karinegregorian937 10 месяцев назад +13

    Eric, with all due respect, I would never suspect you in naïveté. You really think that this disaster happened because of the wrong wording or incorrect accents? Didn’t you see that azer is reading all documents the way it wants. The actual reason happened way earlier when Artzakh abandoned the idea of the unification with Armenia and went on this doomed path of self determination. Don’t you understand that by asking for self determination in azer suppose the belonging of Artzakh to azer while it is not the case. The only scenario where Armenians can live in Artzakh is when Artzakh is a part of Armenia

    • @sakogekchyan7366
      @sakogekchyan7366 10 месяцев назад +1

      And what it would have happened if we straight up annexed it?
      Russia might be able to somewhat survive under sanctions, but we certainly cannot.

  • @Go2Harb
    @Go2Harb 10 месяцев назад +3

    Armenia's enemies and the world's indifference aren't presenting Armenia with a peace option. Is this one of those times when the only options are perish or fight with unfaltering resolve and unity. We are well experienced with the former and I wish that there was evidence to view the latter with optimism.

  • @dya-dya-1
    @dya-dya-1 10 месяцев назад +5

    👍👍👍

  • @sasoonarutyunyan296
    @sasoonarutyunyan296 10 месяцев назад

    Thanks!

  • @bakhtiyarmusayev8308
    @bakhtiyarmusayev8308 10 месяцев назад +2

    Eric, did you train yourself how to graciously throw a pen?)))

    • @c.s.4273
      @c.s.4273 10 месяцев назад

      Next time he will throw his shoe! 😂

  • @AidanSim
    @AidanSim 10 месяцев назад +3

    Great analysis, as always

  • @maralkilidjian3224
    @maralkilidjian3224 10 месяцев назад

    You remember Russia wanted to stop the war early october, Nikol did not accept. The project was to lose the War, which was normal,and thus give the lands.

  • @bennymedia1629
    @bennymedia1629 10 месяцев назад +2

    Perfect as always

  • @c.s.4273
    @c.s.4273 10 месяцев назад +2

    Arsemenia got Fartsakh wrong.

  • @adobo6905
    @adobo6905 10 месяцев назад +7

    Eric, the cow is dead but you are still milking old topics.

  • @user-pu1zw7gt3f
    @user-pu1zw7gt3f 2 месяца назад

    Armenia would be better off if it ceased territorial claims, since most of the worlds population never had independent statehood, Armenia has little one in proportion to its population. Alternative is to be removed from map as Asia is rising with young energetic population increasing, whereas the old continent and the West is declining with aging population. Armenias future is under question

  • @qlr949
    @qlr949 10 месяцев назад +5

    At the risk of sounding like a Pashinyan apologist, his recognition of Karabagh was based on two facts:
    1. Military defeat and further risk/danger
    2. The fact that Artsakh existed only under the political protection from Russia. Armenians fought and won in the war but Russia kept the peace, because their oligarchs benefited.
    He had no choice. To not acknowledge Karabagh at this point meant a 1990s style war, where roles would be reversed.

    • @qlr949
      @qlr949 10 месяцев назад +2

      Pashinyan did not have room to negotiate with Russia. He attained power by challenging Russian oligarchs in Yerevan and their puppets. All of this was meant to punish Armenia into submission to the "Karabagh mafia".

    • @qlr949
      @qlr949 10 месяцев назад +1

      I believe the threat to Armenia was real and its absurd to think AZ would not occupy Syunik the way they and other accuse Armenia of occupying Az.

    • @qlr949
      @qlr949 10 месяцев назад

      The Armenia government can't be responsible for the corner the country was painted into long before 2016. This would be true for any leadership that isn't a puppet for the Kremlin.

  • @jtimouri
    @jtimouri 10 месяцев назад

    Complacency since the success in the early 1990s is what did Armenia in. That and incompetence.

  • @karinegregorian937
    @karinegregorian937 10 месяцев назад +3

    Americans actually announced that they don’t see Iran’s involvement in this war

  • @shaqueha.5017
    @shaqueha.5017 10 месяцев назад

    Every time the world ignores Artsakh, it escalate to something bigger and more dangerous and more costly. Innocent people get killed while the leaders are hiding and in their bunkers and feel important.

  • @qlr949
    @qlr949 10 месяцев назад +1

    10:50 the last sentence and the following video with Noam Chomsky somewhat negate your criticism of Pashinyan and his Government. It bolsters Pashinyans case and focus on "independence".

    • @Eustathe
      @Eustathe 10 месяцев назад +1

      Absolutely agree. Eric is as always very insightful and right on many counts, but ending on a recording of a notorious genocide denier (Cambodia, Yugoslavia) is a very strange choice.

    • @qlr949
      @qlr949 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@Eustathe I couldn't imagine Chonsky denying a genocide.

    • @Eustathe
      @Eustathe 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@qlr949 Denying might be too strong a word, but he's like all ideologically driven people: he is unable to acknowledge truths that don't fit in his worldview

    • @qlr949
      @qlr949 10 месяцев назад

      @@Eustathe that's human nature.

  • @user-cv9xg6si1f
    @user-cv9xg6si1f 10 месяцев назад +5

    Ապրես ախպեր ջան

  • @Power50505
    @Power50505 10 месяцев назад +1

    When you say this government in Armenia bears responsibilty for what took place in Artsakh then explain what they could have done differently but dont just make blanket accusations if you yourself dont know any better. If you cannot give the alternative than do not criticize at all because you clearly dont have the answers.

  • @SFSarkis
    @SFSarkis 10 месяцев назад

    “Guys wearing turbines” Eric you’re too much of a heavyweight to use this language.

  • @Ruirspirul
    @Ruirspirul 10 месяцев назад

    Erik is always quick to blame west for some imaginary point but always lazy to point out how Russia sold Armenia out 😅

  • @jolly0000
    @jolly0000 10 месяцев назад

    Tack!

    • @sunshine8556
      @sunshine8556 10 месяцев назад +2

      Tack for en Big Mac maltid. Det kommer gora en stor skillnad mannen :)

  • @marcuscato3599
    @marcuscato3599 10 месяцев назад

    Not only did Nikol not marry it to rights and gauruntees for Artsakh , but it wasn't even married to the delineation of Arme ias own borders.

  • @user-ks4gs2ll9w
    @user-ks4gs2ll9w 10 месяцев назад +1

    что сказать позор.. столько людей.. потеряли... жизни здоровье жельё.. , победили..., могли отдать 7 и всё.. Не дали - продали - узнаем, Хотя и сами азербаджансские ( спецы на телевиденье говорят а что у армян не чего а у нас каспий нефть, границы с турками хамельёнами...Корче а Алишки-Носу все Тузы + страховка.. Путин не придаст если Эрдоган захочет быстро кусать теретории каспия и там очень устарелые линии , и там для начало как пишут небольшой ремонт и уже ++++++ через 3 месяца а через 6 месяцёв . И так что может дать Армения Москве .. когда та воюет ? Может не мало чем.. Но не сровнить с Азербаджаном да и где встанет Российский флот , там и Турецкий может в гостях быть

  • @xavierlaflamme8773
    @xavierlaflamme8773 10 месяцев назад +3

    People nowadays still think elections are real? How cute. 😂

  • @lucaazeri1700
    @lucaazeri1700 10 месяцев назад +2

    Արցախը լցվել է զուգարան :)))))

  • @gilbertovanessian6998
    @gilbertovanessian6998 10 месяцев назад +1

    This one was one of my least favorite videos of Eric

  • @davitzargarian3110
    @davitzargarian3110 10 месяцев назад +2

    If i want to hear anti-Western and anti-Pashinyan rants i will tune into Russian and Azeri channels.

  • @Star_Dust___
    @Star_Dust___ 10 месяцев назад +12

    From the beginning, when Armenia tried to take over someones lands.
    With all that Diaspora, Money, Connections with all the West on your side it didn’t happened. You know why?
    The international law is on Azerbaijani side !

    • @TenTenJ
      @TenTenJ 10 месяцев назад +17

      International law is going to kick your Az soon. 😂😂😂

    • @qlr949
      @qlr949 10 месяцев назад +10

      Armenia didn't do anything. Armenians in Karabagh got tired of suffering and stood up for themselves. The story of "Northern Cyprus" in reality. Or, do you believe international law does not apply to Cyprus?

    • @qlr949
      @qlr949 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@TenTenJ as it has "Northern Cyprus"? Turks understand, "might is right"

    • @irvin099
      @irvin099 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@qlr949 no he is right, starting from 1980's armenian diaspora started to play the genocide and hating turks card all over the world. by mid 80s diaspora armenians came to armenian USSR and started fueling everything up. basically everything that happened to you is because of the radicals coming from france diaspora. armenians in armenia were never radical it got fueled by french diaspora armenians.

    • @Eustathe
      @Eustathe 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@irvin099 What a bunch of nonsense

  • @radcliffewilliams2221
    @radcliffewilliams2221 10 месяцев назад +2

    Everybody like to blame Iran. Iran supports Armenia.Artaskh should have had a referendum to become absorbed into Russia.. Instead Pashiyan playing games with nuclear Russia and baiting the West

  • @nersestatintsyan5687
    @nersestatintsyan5687 10 месяцев назад +2

    so eric is slowly waking up to the turk loving armo government??

    • @marcuscato3599
      @marcuscato3599 10 месяцев назад

      Nikol Pashinyan is an open Turanist. Just read his articles from the 90s.

    • @c.s.4273
      @c.s.4273 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@marcuscato3599Nikol Pasha is right.

  • @isiazad6205
    @isiazad6205 10 месяцев назад +3

    come on accept finally your lost oh man

  • @gamerk1625
    @gamerk1625 10 месяцев назад

    Lets not pretend some mafioso armenians werent running artsahk .. ignorant and uneducated of what real power means in 2023.

  • @user-pv6kd5gx2f
    @user-pv6kd5gx2f 10 месяцев назад +1

    Armenios😅😅😅 si Señor, un poco de materia gris en vuestras cabezas. Cada país tiene actas de nacimiento, pasaportes, compra venta de propiedades, tierras donde se puede ver quien vivía o no en Karabaj, Mayoria de Azeries o Armenios , incluso la autenticidad de los documentos😅 Plazos de conservación de los libros de registro civil estatales (libros de registro) 1. Los libros de registro estatal de actos del estado civil (libros de actos) se conservan en las autoridades del registro civil durante cien años a partir de la fecha de elaboración de los registros del estado civil.

  • @odildjurayev9744
    @odildjurayev9744 10 месяцев назад +1

    В международном суде Азербайджан тоже должен выдвигать свои требование:
    1.С.Саргсяна, Р.Кочаряна и других преступников сдавать международной суду.
    2.возместит ущерб разрушенных городов, сёл и домов азербайджанцев, также культурно исторических объектов, разграбленных природных ресурсов.
    3.придоставить точных карты минных полей, за найденных минный поля вне карты привлечь к вызскания к ответственности Армении.
    4.передать информация о без вести пропавших.
    5.никаких предусловием возвращение западных азербайджанцев к место проживания в Армении

    • @arsen1260
      @arsen1260 10 месяцев назад +10

      Не повторяй глупые слова Алиева,

    • @owlmirror178
      @owlmirror178 10 месяцев назад +2

      Yalan. Senim vatan Xingjiang

    • @GM-jt3vg
      @GM-jt3vg 10 месяцев назад +3

      Выдвигать все преступления азербайджана по изгнанию 500т армян с городов и селений!

  • @kikiki4032
    @kikiki4032 10 месяцев назад

    Is that theme still active.close this theme and let the people live in pease

  • @elshan5981
    @elshan5981 10 месяцев назад +1

    You went wrong from beginning

  • @user-vq4ik7os2w
    @user-vq4ik7os2w 10 месяцев назад +1

    👍👍👍👍👍