How cars are stolen through OBD port theft and key cloning
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- How cars are stolen through OBD port theft and key cloning
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When young I drove a well tuned Rally style Ford Escort Mexico, bucket seats, roll cage, suspension, brakes and engine upgraded. BIG prob was it was ridiculously easy to steal, so I fitted an extra switch hidden very cleverly behind door skin driver side (invisible) that acted as physical circuit break, made it impossible to start even if had key. Never got stolen, even though 3 times it was entered and attempted. In modern times this could be a very simple answer and very few young criminals would think about this....
Unless they read RUclips comments.
@@MrNobbyify mate, pop the bonnet, run a hot wire with a momentary switch from battery to starter, steal car.
Blow their tool up. Easy enough to do with a relocated OBD port, a dummy installed in its place, four smoke alarm batteries and some creative interpretation of the OBD wiring diagram. Anyone who plugs anything into the connector that sits behind the OBD cover on my car is going to get an impressive fireworks display, but not much else. :)
Damn 🤣🤣
USB killer to all ob2 pins
Legend!
Had a fiesta zetec s with keyless start stolen a few years ago, somehow they got past the alarm and dead locks without smashing the window. Just found the outside of the car door lock ring on the ground.
The replacement car was a Metal, made sure it had a transponder key, and paid about £100 to have the obd moved into a lockable box up in the dash.
The messed up thing about that is ford sued a OBD diagnostic company over being able to interface with their cars but they should be more worried about stuff like this then they are trying to limit who can work on them.
That really looks like a full and complete system awesome I am Ford guy myself
Hats off those sites offering the equipment For the thieves.
i dont need this, i drive a manual trans car in america. that rules out like half of the population from even being able to drive it
more like lazy
lol true. but experienced car thieves usually know how to drive manual..but if they're running a theft ring the cars targeted are usually more expensive cars (BMW ,Audi , Mercedes so on) but I've been reading that the focus and fiesta are extremely easy to steal so as much as I'd like an ST the easy to steal factor kind of ruins it for me
Joshuabrutl yet the carolla & civic were the most stolen 4 many yrs. ( the cars teens think r cool.the cool factor? not value) now days it's the focus st & rs) u would think $ would dictate which cars r stolen however 2 factors= teens joyriding or pro's making money.2 biggest reasons cars r stolen.(just my thoughts)
A man was recently shot when two car jackers jumped into his car and couldn't understand why it wouldn't go and as the man was explaining a clutch shot him and ran.
But 100% of the THIEVES can drive stick!
How much for the option that sends 150K volts through the thief's nuts?
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Razor blades under the door handles is cheap...
Raysaun McLeod ya
Smothered in dog shit for maximum hand infection / amputation probability.
Very good video. I know what I would secure my Focus RS with!
Or for zero cost, you can relocate the OBD port and install a dummy port. If the tool doesn't work the thief will likely find an easier opportunity elsewhere.
Great idea , Where could you buy a dummy port?
@@justd02ofuson ebay
This is the price you pay for customers and garages expecting simplified standardised connections for all cars.
Well, there are a lot of Gadgets anyone can buy for under £50 in the UK.
On various auction sites.
A single point alarm is no good. You need multi immobilisers. The Americans are trying to develop a pulse ECU device which turns off any ECU System. Stopping any car. He Pulse signals the ECU to shut off fuel pump, and power.
Looks like I need o go back to my hidden switch to disable ignition.
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Easy anti-theft precaution..... wrap your OBD reader with cable ties then stick it somewhere out of sight.
I never knew ODB port car theft was a thing. Just seen a comment on a FB post by our local police saying Ford vans are being stolen and a comment there mentioned ODB port theft, and I was like... WHAT? HOW?... genius of the thieves, but the ODB port clearly has a major security flaw if they can start the car with it. Glad to know there is upgraded security available should I ever get a decent car and need to worry about this type of theft. Although I do feel manufacturers should offer a free security upgrade, ODB patch or something - to prevent this happening in the first place.
It’d be nice if these companies tried stuff like this first.
This is the reason why I ALWAYS want a key for my car and it disables the handles from inside the car
That's what deadlocks do, you cannot open the car from the inside
I recently had my Landrover Discovery 4 stolen with this method. The police have recovered the car and I'm waiting for it to be returned once repaired and re-coded back to the original keys. I will be looking for one of these systems.
Dedicated security system designed to protect all JLR group vehicles, including the Discovery 4.
As much as newer cars cost these days it's unethical for them to make vehicles that are stolen so easily.
Hers a novel idea, perhaps if manufacturers stopped putting OBD Sockets is stupidly accessible areas this may not be such an issue.
or make it where you have to enter a password to access obd functions but the password has to be strong
That proximity alarm is going to be a bother, when parking in a supermarket parkinglot or at the kerb.
That mother is going to be beeping constantly as people pass by or motorists access their own vehicle parked next to this one.
These viper alarms have been friggin pwned!
Nice! Can the proximity security sensor work for other vehicle brands too? E.g Honda Pilot.
Best advert ever!!! 5/5
i test the viper alarm and must say is nice but have a coupleof problems if i am a theft first i make sure that no radio signal are working around the car with cheap device anti gsm anti gps anti radio anti wifi etc, then the worst part is that i had to change battery of car once for year cos viper alarm suck that battery and also engine start is afected by that alarm. best alarm well is not such a way if is for pro tefth but if is for common tefths then yes it may be a good choice.
Best answer to car manufactures just go back to key start they was harder to steal then new push start buttons
wow!!! Nice car you need a tracker in it. 😉 Be safe.
Move the OBD port and have a manual fuel pump disable switch.
When all cars become autonomous they won't even have to steal the car. They will have the car steal itself.
I don't drive a Ford but I don't think any thief would wanna steal my car. Water ingress in the footwells and the smell of wind would probably cause them to seal my broken window back up haha
Re-route the obd2 socket to underneath the bonnet. Save ya cash. Job done
everything man made theirs always a way around it.
That's totally crazy, I guess that's how they stole my car :((((
Do you need to leave your Ford key inside the car when it's armed? I mean the Viper has a remote start as well.
No warning that the window is left open when setting the alarm, what good is that? Get a Thatcham fitted if you value your vehicle.
This happened to my ST on Sunday, think they got disturbed though because car was still there just with a smashed window and a couple of dents and scratches
Wow, where do you live?
Kordovaner Balint This happened in Liverpool whilst visiting a friend
@@cecil4485first mistake was going to Liverpool lol
@@richlee509 you're right 😂
Why doesn't someone just make a visible OBD lock to prevent access?
Exactly what alarm system is this? I need this someone tried this with my car a few days ago. I caught them.
My car was broken into and I cannot put the key in all the way any longer. And my battery just died, I really don't want to break my back window is there anything else I can do
Mass production of any vehicle means a thief will gen up on that vehicle and get tooled up for it ...
Once they for example know a Ford Focus or Transit, they will have it away in seconds ....end of ...
The best thing anyone can do is to make their security individual so that as the thief will only have seconds and will scarper if things don't work for him as usual...There are hundreds more cars for him to choose from so if yours is a little harder then it'll be a lot safer
Fit aftermarket alarms etc (and please don't put a sticker in your window letting the thief know what alarm you have fitted)....For cars, fit aftermarket security barrels as again the thief is well versed on the car he is stealing....
Most cars you can move the OBD connector and fit a factory looking fake ...You can wire the fake one too so he'll get the readings but can't start the car...You could be a bugger and wire and nasty voltage to the fake so it blows his box of tricks up :) :)
Consider a locking pedalbox...They'll look through the window and just move on 99% of the time ...Modern thieves just don't like hard work, they love electrics ...
Another thing that isn't mentioned is that thieves also capture your key signal through your letterbox at night and simply open your car and drive off with no fuss....DON'T leave your car keys in the hallway ... Hang your keys a lot further away and maybe upstairs
Seriously? Nobody does anything when the alarm goes off. Think low tech. Put a hidden switch in line with ignition. If for some reason a thief is bothered by the horn honking once he has opened up your car they just pop the hood and either pull out the horn wiring or pull the relay. Total time like 20 or 30 seconds.
On the not exactly the same topic honking the horn to see if you locked the car you just left is a fantastic way to annoy people who happen to be in front of it.
Another low tech idea is to remove all wireless connections so that hackers don't have another remote "exploit" If any of this annoying technology has a point I personally don't think its worth it.
I’m going to steal a rs tonight watch out thanks for the vid
Seen to many of these extra immobilisers stop the owner starting the car
Daz Z Only time i have ever broken down was in my gti-r pulsar, and that was the clifford system deciding that after an hour of driving i must have been stealing it and shut off the engine while i was doing 40mph lol. £30 for a relay replacement and i was good to go again!
exactly James. I looked like it was in his hand on the second try. it should have been on the hood.
put a secret switch in series with pin 16 on the obd, this will leave them scratching their heads lol.
if this car has a steering column imobilizator there is no way to driveit. Mine has a mechanical one so you have to destroy the key hub.
I had my 15 mth old 2017 St line fiesta stolen outside the house last November. No broken glass at all. The 2 sets of keys in the house. And it wasn't even keyless. I hope he crashed into a big tree and he was screaming, stuck in my car thinking of his missis or kids while the flames were licking up both sides
I think the car keys, when he unlocks the car with the "Device" should have gone in his pocket, how do we know someone off camera isn't just unlocking the car with the key when he says his "Device" (which is so easy to make, yet this is the first time I've heard about it) is unlocking the car without the KEY. LOL
The keys need to be away from the car for the demonstration to work. The ford RS is fitted with proximity keyless entry. If they had been put into the pocket, when demonstrating the deadlocks, the door would have opened and the alarm disarmed.
+Securemycar An RF & RFID detector & logger can be used make a proximity key. Then you need the OBD programmer. Now we are into it for over well $10,000 USD, or 7000 British Pound Sterling, plus the time to program the RFID codes & the right radio freqs. There is good money in taking cars.........for banks. They want to resell those repossessed cars, in tact. You never know if the owner will try to kill your, or help you push their POS car out to the tow truck, & thank you, for letting them remove their personal property & hauling it off. We prefer to never see the owner, or debtor, or whatever you call them.
+Seth B thank
You don't even need a programmer, as the car is one too. Buy keys from eBay quite cheap. All you need to do is put it in a mode to write new keys which the devices shown in the video can do, sit in the driver's seat with it and it will be activated to be used with the car. Most expensive part is the replacement of the window, a new set of keys for £10.
Even the ST-3's came out with keyless entry. Watch more about it..
Had stolen cars uk on Facebook then you see how many rs are being stolen with this kit
Dean Watkins Lots.
remove your fuel pump fuse..good luck trying to start the car thieves..bring your own damn fuse
or they just pop a non essential fuse in the pumps spot and start it
then remove your battery
remove your battery? that's ridiculous. If you keep it anywhere in the car you're a fool they would just put it back in. Then you would have to carry a damn car battery around like a mental case. Also have to reset your ecu. EVERYTIME.
relearn idle procedure etc transmission would need to relearn gear information. meaning your car would never get optimal performance or fuel economy ever and it would probably dramatically decrease the cars life
absolutely the most stupid thing I have ever read.
Never as easy as people make out I've looked Hard for a long time to find this device or similar ones but cannot find one any where or any information on it or how to make one :(
or simply attach a quality toggle switch (hidden very well) attach it 2 ur ignition/ starter wire & idc what they try.the car won't start! or here's a idea, remove ur starter fuse/relay & add toggle (hidden) ya its a pain but, it's cheap & easy and ur car will always be there.w/No expensive alarm.
You can damage the relay by keep removing it all the time
What if someone left their dog in the car? Would the alarm go off? 😂
so it can only be stolen if it has a push start?
Would this alarm work together with autowatch ghost-II ?
Hey mister, your driving wheel is on the wrong side of your car!.
JK ;)
If they cant find the obd port they cant nick it in theory and with the alarm going off i recon they will run leaving the car.
Well done chap just showed up n coming theifs how to work one.
Can this still happen if the car isnt keyless
How does it bypass the ecu security code?
THANKS Said the thief👍🏻
Can u fit this to a 2014 bmw 5 series m sport?
I'm a Ford mechanic for over 20yrs, you can steel any Ford with or without a alarm in less then ten sec.....I've showed my best customers how so they can protect them selfs better......your system "if" real could be bypassed in about 25sec if you know what your doing....just saying
High end ford?! Lol
No such crap
So if I wanted to know how to steal Fords I just have to come to your dealership, seem interested in one and you'll show me?
points out thecweakness of a single layer secutity system. factory antitheft systems on mass produced cars are a cruel joke reflected by the small insurance discount for having one.
a car "secured' by a factory system that isn't smart enogh to not arm with the windows open. antitheft ignition disable negated by keyless ignition. exposed physically unprotected obb port that should be inaccessible when the car is "secured." (There is no federal requirement that the odb be exposed )
a cheap sonic glass break detector with internal keypad could prevent a thief from getting past the closed windows.
how could they make a thing like that anyway ? im sure u can't just get that online
Beatiful car and key ;P
Board meeting...
"we need to increase car sales... Any ideas?
How about we improve the security to wireless, button, gimmicky things that give the customer a false sense of security...
More cars stolen equals more cars to replace them".
Is this thatcham or insurance approved?
How comes this is rife with Audi/bmw/ford?
Is it because of the obd port location being so accessible? (I have no clue where it is on the Audi or bmw)
Push start button
Both my last cars were push button/keyless. Doesn't seem so rife with the French stuff. Then again their OBD ports can't be described as accessible.
European legislation prevents the car manufacturer from locating the OBD port where they want to. It has to be within a certain distance from the steering wheel. Stupid bullshit European Union.
Will insurance cover your car if it gets stolen and the keys inside
Ronald Martinez no
I JUST UNPLUG MY COIL PACK AND REMOVE FUEL PUMP RELAY !!!
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wait!! you have access as soon as you smash the window... plus the alarm will be going off while you are crawling through the broken window and disarming the alarm.
So yeah that's definitely a way to do it... just not the quietest or lest likely to draw attention.
No you smash the window lean in and put the thing in and it will open the door and you can drive like normal
where can we get one of those modules from?
EBay or the DarkWeb
@@ericmartin2470 What are they called?
What are they called?
@@njp3729 now-a-days you just need a laptop, USB to OBD interface and software. be careful of the software though.
@@ericmartin2470 What type of software?
These thieves born when the car manufactured & lock installed.No one can save his car from them.Mechanical locks waste thier time is comperativelly safe. pedal or stearing rod lock can be used.
Does the New Focus RS MK3 suffer with this vulnerability?
Yes it does, Unfortunately. there have been reports of over 30 plus RS Mk3s stolen and thousands of MK3 Focus Sts too
Yes fords are
Nice
why not just cover the OBD with a lock or move the OBD port to the trunk, under the hood or into the glove box. as the owner how often do you access the OBD port? it seems the weakest link is the OBD port and theft of the vehicle depends on access to the OBD port. i'm sure a length of wires or lock is much cheaper than what you are selling. LOL
what focus rs is this? such a nice car
Mk2
nice sales pitch
I find not buying a rs3 focus solves this problem lol
Shocking! Fortunately, my car is too old.
I've got More less same on mine. I have Clifford worth every penny
fair play
I really want yhis on my 15 st. but i live in norway. so u probably cant help me :(
how much are these
@Securemycar The ultimate way to stop people stealing your car is to remove the steering wheel,i'm sure Mr Bean did this years ago, sounds crazy yes,but no one is going to even think about staling it with no steering wheel. Manufacturers need to make a quick release system.
Further to that manufacturers could make a part of the ignition system that you remove when you leave it parked, sort of like a physical small black box,which is under the bonnet and you slide out and without it,the car will never start or take the car battery with you :) they wont expect that one.
Exactly. All these tech toys are pure mickeymouse. They’re approaching a problem in the wrong way. I have a hidden switch in my car which disables various elements required in the ignition sequence.
where is this hidden switch? :)only kidding, things like no battery stop it being stolen,maybe a part of the car that can be removed like a small electronic device which you take with you that pulls out withing seconds and makes the car totally unstealable, even if they have the same part its sort of coded to that vehicle only.
Steering wheel not needed on a steer by wire setup like on this Ford and practically every last model vehicle. Theoretically you could easily turn it into a full scale rc car with a little determination.
but the windows were always opened
could have done the same fix for a fiver for a relay ffs
well whos dum enough to rely on a factory alarm anyways. one of the first things i do to every car is get a viper.
It's disgusting that you've even got to do this!
I had my port rerouted under the seat
Thats a good idea
I was really waiting for someone so stupid to tell where its mounted now 😂👌 I have it on a different place also, but I'm not telling where
My mate Kenny had his re routed, still got stolen in less than a minute the other night.
Whats the obd port for anyway?
+xavi er Puttin' in Tuning software etc.
+xavi er Used in car services and for registering new keys to your car.
+xavi er Its for diagnosing and troubleshooting problems with the vehicle. That' is the primary function. NOT tuning
+xavi er OBD = On Board Diagnostics
It's where you stick your winkie to make the car go faster.
how can I make one of these car jacking obd2 hacks?
A cheaper alternative, Purchase a Rottweiler and make his chain long enough to circle the car !
Lol
+MadCowGoMoo hahaha
+MadCowGoMoo Not sure if that is a cheaper option!
better yet let him sleep in it with the windows down muahahahahahah
Pathetic
I want a ford rs so bad ;(
Says the foxbody driver
A Ford Focus Rs is 10times better looking than a foxboxy. Handels better and is better in overall
***** well, your car is pretty gay. Old, weak and cheap
Please don't steal one. Work hard and buy one + fit it with extra security alright!
Why not go steal one?😂
Duct Tape 1 > OBD Thief 0
Could you speak up?? Can't hear you.
That thing he made what is it as my Ford Fiesta was stolen two days fking pricks out there !
I hate push start button cars.
my car can't ever be stolen
Gps ? Buy a used iphone and pit on silent with find my phine .com paired on . Eazzzzzy
Scaremongering of the highest degree and order and to be honest if they want something bad enough they will have it regardless of what is done to stop them
It's far from scaremongering and the stealing of Transits id rampant to say the least ...Ford have even recalled the MK8's for a software upgrade (that's not good enough either
With mass production, each owner has to think how to make their vans more secure...A thief knows all the standard settings ... The more individual you make your security, then the less likely a thief will take your car or van
why the fuck did ford but the obd port in such an accessible place to start with?
***** Here there are regulations on where the OBD port has to be. Also it is used during state inspections
***** It's a legal requirement to be placed in an accessible place
+Rocker Rick unless it's an french car then the OBD port could be anywhere :)