King Charles Built A Town And It Surprised EVERYONE
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👉 Meet Poundbury, a controversial yet successful new town built in the beautiful Dorset landscape. The project, initiated by King Charles III when he was still the Prince of Wales, is an example of how we can create places that are beautiful, sustainable, with affordable homes and the use of craftsmanship. In this video we’ll discover not only the story of its creation, but the lessons we can learn from the town so others can hopefully duplicate its success.
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Dresden and Germany were rebuild thanks to American generosity
Warsaw and Poland was genocided by Germans and now 90 cents out of every 1 euro spent by the EU on Poland is returned to Germany, thanks to their generosity
Curious if you'll ever cover this type of history
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@@2MinuteHockey thats not completly right. for every euro the EU spend in Poland, Poland just has to import a hell of things from Germany. so not 90 cent of the Euro goes to Germany but u have to spend it in germany. and the USA did not rebuild germany, they set the ground for it and help with the marshall Plan. the germany economic wonder of the 50s and 60s had more to do with the insanely fast growth of population the immigartion from trukisch worker to germany wich worked cheaper and help to set the base of the economie. also germany kept his econmicpowerhouses like Volkswagen. west europe started to trade more germany lays perfect to trade arounded by other strong partners the swiss, austria, france, italy, the netherlands, demark, belgium. (also luxenburge and lichtenstein are also very nice but a bit small to have an huge impact) the idea the economic boom of germany were only thanks to the usa is just wrong.
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Couldn't agree more. Architects are the only people who praise modern architecture, and they choose to live in old houses. There is an estate in Durham that looks old but isn't and it is very popular. Build beautiful. We have no excuse not to.
THIS
we need a full resurgence of pre mid 20th century architecture
Fancy meeting you here!
- But is it beige?
Lindy is everywhere 😁
Amen
Exactly. I hate how the 0.001% of people who are architects get to dictate to the 99.999% why their ugly and depression-inducing buildings are "good, actually". And we all just allow it because of their self-anointed superiority.
I remember the criticism he faced at the time for his book and stance on the destruction of our arcitectural heritage, he was bang on target.
Exactly. I wasn’t even born at that time, but the words in his book voice exactly what I’m concerned about- it’s still incredibly relevant and more people should take it to heart
I remember it very well. The architecture Establishment in Britain referred to Charles as a "crank." Isn't that rich? These lunatics, who have marred the world with their revolting, assaultive architecture, referring to Charles as a crank!
@@the_aesthetic_city please visit nansledan. its also by prince charles and has corrected some of the issues of poundbury
I can remember that time and the architects hated what he said but the rest of the country applauded him.
Very nice, but he is part of a small number of people who literally own vast amounts of property both in the UK and abroad. Building one town is akin to building his own little palace for him and his court. Other improvements around the UK to revitalize the local economies and increase the number of homes for people to live, as well as decreasing the exorbitant rents for the population, would be more positive.
I’m British and had no idea this place existed (and neither did my husband or friends). I’d love to see this project get another wave of airtime on mainstream media here
We're you not born early enough, not to know of it? It started in the 80's, but really got going in the 90's & was often on the news & in the papers.
Same here, so that's what he's been doing, I thought he just spent his days on playstations...
I went there a few times when there new houses being built around 2017 - 2018. it's a very beautiful place, the only down side is that it is very small and in the middle of nowhere. it's nice to visit, not sure about living (that is if you are used to the city life as you might find there arent that many amenities and options).
This is very impressive. There are several areas in London that need this sensitive planning, and without socially cleansing either, which unfortunately tends to be baked into improving locations. Thank you for this upload👍
Yeah it makes me respect the king a lot more, the modernist assault on english cities has been something thats made me angry since i was kid. They ruin the beauty and charm of english cities and towns.
I'm not an European myself, but old european buildings truly are fascinating. With so many trees in surrounding, easy access everywhere, it's no wonder that this is a success.
Old buildings are beautiful everywhere I think. Everywhere in the world, when local materials and techinques are used, buildings look gorgeous. Think about an old eastern asian pagoda, or an indian temple, or a central african traditional village house. I think we should be proud of our differences and build truly unique buildings, not concrete things that we can see all over the world
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@@prunomars1410 Unfortunaely these buildings are not old and are poorlydesigned with a schizophrenic mix of both modern and 'traditional' methods poorly combined by illiterates
Imagine being born in europe and being hardwired into thinking tat's the norm ...and then you see america
People who first saw it being planned and built thought it was just kitsch and a fake idealistic image of what a traditional town was supposed to look like, but it was actually planned well and had a human scale behind it, and many of the buildings are not only traditional in the aesthetic sense but use materials that are longer lasting and age gracefully.
I agree, and all buildings are copies of something with a twist.
"traditionalism is le bad" I hate it when people think the term kitch is a real critique. They hate that they are incapable of producing beauty.
@@ep5019 I agree, and my favourite thing about it is it's not cookie cutter.
You'll maybe have three or four buildings in a row that match, but then the street corner will have a unique building that has an interesting alternate building material, shape, or an extra story added, you'll have courtyards and side streets that don't follow a boring grid plan.
It's visually stimulating and doesn't feel as rushed or cold as certain other new build developments.
Its almost as if post modernists use historical authenticity as a bad faith critique
I wonder if these people would call would call the buildings on Oxford Street in London kitsch? I don't think so. Most people like them when they're old, so why not make something in a similar style that's new?
This is a very pleasant-looking town, with a more humane feel to it. I'm not surprised people want to live there.
Indeed, very quaint
Yes, I'm sure the very wealthy people will love not having to look upon the common folk who can't afford to live there.
@@phily8093Have you even gone through this whole video at all?
@@adit0571 yes. I saw the bit about 35% affordable housing if thats what you're referring to. Bullshit! Affordable to who exactly?
@@phily8093 Single mothers?
American here, seeing this type of architecture can still be built in the modern day while still being include all current modern amenities that have developed over a century gives me hope that maybe the same can be done here in the states, modern architecture is a blight not just to the western worlds aesthetic but history and heritage.
Part of me thinks this is the point of modernism, the modern elite hate our history and our culture and attack it every turn. A societies architecture says a lot about the state of a society, modernism is souless and ugly
Carmel is good
@@bhuvanordhruvagreed especially with all the roundabouts but there’s still a long way to go
@@dankdude5615 new development is happening fast, so in a few years it will be even better
Urban planning in the 50s, 60s, 70s was horrible. So many US cities all look the same. In England Milton Keynes New Town was built like that. The architects and planners never bothered asking or finding out what the residents like.
I live here and it's honestly a lovely place to live. The design is well thought out and there's decent parking for cars while not feeling cramped for space. Every other road has a feature or unusual looking building that makes for something nice to look at, be it a park, a fountain, a sculpture etc.
The more business orientated areas don't have loads of parking spaces so you'd think that'd be an issue, but it really isn't, as you just park one road further away. There's plenty of little cut throughs between each road so you can get from a to b as a pedestrian really efficiently.
The "it looks like a toy town" argument is somewhat true as there's a sense of fake old or modern archaic-ness to the buildings, but i think those people need to realise that in a few decades it'll look absolutely idyllic. The ivy walls will have grown, the trees will look more harmonious with the buildings, moss will have grown near the fountain etc.
The only gripe I would say about living here (and it's quite minor) is that there are quite a few extra regulations that you won't get elsewhere. These can be things like washing lines can't be seen from the road, doors can only be a certain shade/ colour etc.
I understand why they're in place, to keep the aesthetic to a certain uniform standard, but if you live in a flat with a balcony not being able to hang your washing out on it on a hot day can seem somewhat tedious.
Anyways, if anyone has any questions about living here and would like to know more, I will do my best to answer them.
As an American that town does look pretty good and I'm sure it will look even better and more natural as it ages but I think it would help a bit if they got rid of such ridiculous and tedious lil regulations like the ones you listed at the end, not allowing people to make they'r own minor changes to theyr houses aesthetic (the best way I can put it) and forcing everyone to be the exact same just sounds a lil dystopian
@@elishafollet5347 it is and i agree. Like you won't get arrested for breaking said regulations but repeat offenses can get you a fine from the poundbury council. Plenty of locals won't say anything or report you but there's always some busy body somewhere who may tip off the council.
Like I live in a one bed flat above a garage and I've had letters about my bins being seen from the road (another regulation) and i think this is mainly down to the bin men leaving them empty around the forecourt once they've emptied them.
They're round the back of the property tucked away as much as possible and there's no where else for them to go. I've ignored said letters as I'm not gonna move the bins into my hallway but it's just ludicrous that i even get a letter. It as yet, hasn't gone further than that, but it's always in the back of your mind that it may and i really don't want the hassle of having to appeal it, if it does.
@@fozthepoet8274 y'all should really have a meeting or something about that stuff
@@elishafollet5347 From what I've heard about what Homeowner's Associations in many US states are allowed to get up to, I think Poundbury gets off pretty lightly. Local government can be petty, but professional bureaucrats are rarely as emotionally invested in neighbourhood grudge matches as self-righteous pensioners with too much time on their hands.
Put a shower curtain rod over your bathtub. Hand your clothes to drip into the bath. Open the windows. I did this because of wasps on my balcony.
And one not often mentioned advantage of traditional architecture is that it ages well unlike "modern" styles that are only modern for 10 years after they're built and soon become eyesores when they lose their shine and novelty appeal.
But art deco also aged like fine wine
@jonaspete true but art deco was still ornate which is why is aged wrll
@@jonaspete Yes, but art deco isn't the problem, but modern brutalist architecture.
Brutalism wasn't popular for long. The International style, in other words totally undecorated buildings were much more common, especially high rise and office buildings. These days we have a lot of past modern styles that try and incorporate aspects of traditional and historical architecture in modern buildings.
I like Poundbury, not sure how practical it would be to build an entire country in this style, however traditional buildings evolved over many years, in terms of material choices and style. Things like generous eaves need to make a comeback on new buildings, and durable and aesethically pleasing building materials such as bricks and terracotta.
Another aspect is that modern buildings, especially commercial real estate, is often very specifically designed for a particular purpose. As a consequence, it's hard and expensive to turn old office buildings and malls into housing, if the local demand for real estate shifts. As a result, a lot of merely 20 year old offices are more economical to just tear down. Not a very sustainable use of materials and labour!
I live in Australia but lived in UK 55 years ago. I saw all the flats going up and they looked awful. Poundbury is lovely.
Australia also has a premium town designed from scratch in the 1980s. Dinner Plain in Victoria near the Hotham ski resort has rigorously enforced aesthetic standards. While it has a very different vibe to Poundbury, both have their own unique take on modern versions of traditional architecture.
Australian here.( Fleurieu)...and am horrified by our 'urban sprawl. Hundreds of houses packed together ( many with black roofs which create an oven effect in summer) with few trees, shops too far to walk and generic houses 😢. Driving south or north of Adelaide, the highway leading into Melbourne, this ugly phenomenon is on full display. Horrendous
I am currently in the process of purchasing a home in Poundbury. Despite currently residing nearly 100 miles away, I am eager to leave the poorly constructed, unsightly housing developments in Devon by developers like Bovis and Barratt. Poundbury's beauty, infrastructure, sustainability, and overall charm make it an ideal place for me to call home.
He's always had a sincerely heartfelt interest in these projects and all things architecture, conservation, aestetics and balancing the natural world! He's an extraordinary human being, we are so lucky to have him! 🙋👍
He did the same with the Chelsea barracks and now there are beautiful buildings standing instead of boring glass and steel.
I stopped off at Poundbury on a road trip to Cornwall. It’s a really beautiful town that doesn’t feel brand new, just quaint and clean and cohesive.
What a great video to watch. I live on a Victorian terrace and there is a patch of land split up into equal parts so that all the houses have an allotment or whatever they want to use it for. It truly brings the community here together and always wished new development’s would be forced to do the same. I never knew the king was so passionate about these things. Hats off to him
I visited Poundbury last year. I was struck by the absence of signs everywhere and road markings. It makes a huge difference to the feel of the town. It feels a very relaxing place to be. The houses are in small groups and are copies of housing styles that can be found across the UK. For example Georgian town houses can be found near small terraced workers cottages. Its fascinating to spot all the styles. A lovely place to visit and a lovely place to live I would think.
“higgledy-piggledy” is the most British word I’ve ever heard, and it’s now my favourite
Is that not a common word in the states? (I'm assuming you're from there or maybe Canada)
We use that word in Australia, I didn't realise it wasn't universal across the anglosphere.
How about: nook and cranny…
@@anon8740it is used in the US but not that common
There's a Pump it Up song named that.
@@markfrancis5164 we use nook and cranny in the US. But never in my life heard higgledy-piggledy used here.
I love how each city district has its own character and seems to come from a different epoch. And all of them fit well together
I grew up in Dorchester (the town adjacent to Poundbury), so have witnessed its development (from 2010 or so). In my opinion the first stage of poundbury is lovely, it’s very green and feels normal. However, the newer parts often feel devoid of character and almost like you’re walking around a movie set. This video makes poundbury look really good and hasn’t mentioned some of the weird rules in poundbury, for example, every property is listed, you can’t use a washing line and washing up liquid cannot be visible from the street). Not everyone is a fan of it, that being said I think almost everyone I know is in agreement that Poundbury is much better than other modern estates. Great video!
Greenery and beautification require time to mature. The oldest sections have had nearly thirty years to develop. In my hometown, Sofia, there is a neighborhood known as Western Park, constructed in the 1960s. The area features buildings in Stalinist style, which have aged attractively, alongside some in Khrushchev style, which are ugly. However, the district is appealing due to six decades of greenery and beautification maturation. Despite the presence of less attractive buildings, the overall ambiance of the neighborhood is quite pleasant. Give it time.
You think the rules are weird, talk to an American who has to deal with a Home Owners Association (HOA)
I knew he was keen on conservation but had no idea, he spear headed such a practical initiative. I'd love to see it!
It's criminal how many towns in the UK have been decimated by concrete monstrosities.
Preston is a great example. It was never touched by bombing during the war (despite having several important factories) but has had the heart ripped out since the 1950's with the addition of a ring road straight through the centre, a hideous bus station and guild hall, dozens of perfectly decent terraces and churches knocked down to make way for modern housing and industrial estates, not to mention the university which has more recently completely taken over with student accommodation and modern monstrosities.
Programmes like Grand Designs also don't help as they showcase the modern style of glass and prefeb-style houses as the best thing since sliced bread and quaint cottages as "old and decrepit".
Very well said. I live nearby and I'm always struck by the contrast between some of the lovely old buildings and the inexorable creep of ugly, alien modern architecture.
The open borders are more criminal..
I think the 70s was the worst era for architecture where alot of lovely character buildings were being replaced by ugly so called modern Lego looking monstrosities!
The bus station looks good though
Capitalism. Make a product as fast and cheap as possible. Hence why more and more of us live in grey cold sterile soviet block apartment buildings. And somehow people wonder why depression and suicide rates are skyrocketing.
I know that it's not the same, but here in Colombia something like this happened a while ago, an old colonial town, was decided to be surmeged to make a reservoir for the capital city, but people asked for the town to be rebuild, so goverment complied and they said it was a relocation and not a demolition, they rebuilt the town close to what it was, but not exactly the same, they introduced some new ideas and it was a huge success, the town now has a new attraction (the reservoir is used as a lake where people pratice aquatic sports and fishing) and has a lot of tursit that come form the lake but also to see and walk the place, the town's name is Guatavita
That happened on an episode of the Simpsons
I never knew or heard about Poundbury. However, my respect for that blimey ol' King across the pond raised immensely! Absolutely beautiful!
Thank you for building this city King Charles! It turned out wonderfully charming!
It is not a City.
I bought a copy of (then) Prince Charles's book when it was first published and it gave me furiously to think. I disagreed with him on some items but then read the book again. I still disagree on some matters (there is a beautiful modern building in Swindon that is listed as an eyesore.) but any controversial book where you can agree with 90% of the points has to be a thumping success. That KC III carried his vision through despite the opposition of the press and their financial masters shows his character. If nothing else we have got a brand new excellent new town which should serve as an example to others.
If you can agree on the broad strokes, it definitely means he had a point. When it comes to specifics it's expected that you wouldn't be 100% in alignment cause to a degree this is very subjective.
IIRC he thought the Tricorn Centre in Pompey was architecturally valid as well, and if true, on that he was very much mistaken. Broadly speaking his taste seems better than a lot of architects though.
What building in Swindon is that?
@@tpower1912 There are two buildings in Swindon that have an exoskeleton and made it into the book. One 'The Link Centre' is hideous and deserves its place. The other is in Mead Way. It used to be the Renault Building but now is owned by Beard. Not to everyone's taste but I think it works. www.google.com/maps/@51.5665474,-1.8254888,3a,75y,90h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAkwlrPRQzZUpOVb3OPeCfg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
@@tpower1912 I'm gonna hazard a guess that it's the DMJ. I love that building but it's a controversial take.
Charles III is a more interesting person than what the media has tried to tell us
He always has been, but most people didn't want to know, being too obsessed with his, frankly unpleasant, first wife. He has been ahead of his time in just about everything he has done, and now he's being rightly seen as a good man, with his heart bang in the right place. He always has been, it's just the public perception of him that has changed. I think the only thing that has changed about him is that having a loving and supportive wife has encouraged him to be not afraid to show who he really is.
@@michaelmontagu3979 also his familys general repuation and history doesnt help.
@@koloblicin Really? Doesn't seem a bad reputation or history in the main. All families have black sheep, but not many families suffer from lies and misinformation from a malignant media.
@@michaelmontagu3979 yup,
but you dont become, hold power and stay the royal family by being nice.
also, when do you think they lost control over the media?
not even 1 whole generation ago, at max.
also i see equally as many "media" praising and salivating over whatever they do as i see them critizising them.
be real.
And his narcissistic American daughter in law
Surprised no mention of the use of common utility ducts/tunnels. Instead of the usual burying of utility cables and pipes, they share common ducts. This reduces the need for companies to block and dig up roads for maintenance, then leaving a patchwork of variable quality asphalt road repairs.
As someone who lives and works here and has seen it become a thing, it's a good endeavour. It has its quirks and issues, but generally a pleasant and mostly peaceful place, like the town it's annexed to. I believe it's still classed as a village or "urban extension". The only downsides now are new builds and blueprints are not as well structured or formed as the original phase 1 building defects have plagued many buyers and renters because of the speed of development.
Nice to see a video on this.
I remember the designs of the homes being built for both heating and cooling efficiency using old tunnel methods that work in nature, this town is impressive and I wish I lived in it.
only 8 videos, yet you have 100k subscribers and millions of views, you are one of the most popular architecture channels on youtube, the views you get per video are about as consistent as the Architectural Digest channel, which has huge funding and resources, has been around for years and has many celebrity guests and is likely pushed by RUclips.
This is proof of your claim that the public hate modern architecture and love classical, the support and positive feedback on your channel by the viewers of your channel is testament enough to the truth you speak.
A million of these: 👍🏻
Perfectly put! ❤❤❤
Misuse of commas.
Yes, we are the silent majority and we now have an advocate.
@@AwesomeHairo Don't worry; you'll get over it dear.
I just looked at houses for sale in Poundbury and the prices are as varied as anywhere and not more expensive than the surrounding area. They also look great!
You are creating really beautiful, well made, high quality, videos here. Thank you very much. Not easy to find comparable content about architecture.
All the best. Keep going
Again the Prince who is now King was right. He has been right in many of his projects, which were all treated as bunk by the "experts", and having a real expert on side in Leon Krier was genius.
King strikes as a very rational person who knows when to look for compromise and then to push against baseless resistance with force. His position on environment preservation and climate change is also very sensible. Not an alarmist whole his life but eventually ramping up the message as evidence and effects become clearer. I think it is unfortunate for UK that he was destined to be the King and not the governor (by the way I am not the absolutist and I would never support both at the same time).
@@guntisber5415 I think Charles has gotten an unfair reputation over the years.
It seems nowadays the people of Britain see him as a down to earth (or at least someone that wants to be down to earth) and well meaning goofball, which is honestly not the worst reputation to have.
One thing that Brits seem to agree on is that Charles is a WAY better person then Andrew.
Part of me thinks that modern British Kings always seem to have a brother that is a massive screw up and exists to make the ruling brother look good by comparison.
George VI had Edward VIII, Charles III has Andrew, and Prince William had Harry.
@@Kaiserboo1871 To be clear, I don't think Harry is a massive screw up, but he is certainly really different.
American cities should really look into this kind of development. I’m glad there are new developments out there proving that new towns can be designed just as well as old ones.
I totally agree. If you look at Delafield Wisconsin, you will see a town built with traditional aesthetics. It is the prettiest town ( in my opinion) in Wisconsin. of course, the builder of this town faced steep opposition to get it done his way.
@@sunlion8218 "the builder of this town faced steep opposition to get it done his way"
It's depressing how many petty subversives there are occupying key positions of authority within Western societies. All they seem to want to do is mentally torture people with their snidey moral posturing.
The recent "Culdesac" development in Phoenix is interesting. Low-rise apartments in a wonderful maze of pedestrian alleys and plazas, perfect for the Arizona sun.
lol, well actually they have, one of the points not mentioned in the video is that it's based on new orleans new urbanism, parking is situated on the rear of all of the streets so that the buildings face out onto the sidewalks, in this respect it's much easier to traverse between one economic centre and another, doesn't have enough pubs, restaurants and brasseries as of yet though.
There are a few, Seaside Florida is one of them.
I grew up near Dorchester and remember the initial controversy and jokes about Poundbury but that’s completely changed now. The only criticism I hear now is the lack of elevators which is a struggle for people living in top floor flats, especially if you have young children. People do want to live there though and it’s influenced so many modern developments
As a local, poundbury does have a major crisis with a lot of it being relatively empty second homes. The stats are pre covid, but it was sitting at over 50% of the homes being empty for most of the year.
That’s unfortunate. Hopefully this will be addressed by the second home register being introduced. It’s silly how much of Britain is empty when there’s a shortage of housing.
I heard there's also a big problem with a lack of public transport and too many cars around
I live in Poundbury and that is very much not the case.
@@Grymauch9 there were a few articles about it a couple of years ago, would you say its been fixed since then or has the free parking been removed or the like?
@@Pe0ads for what it's worth, this is 5 year old information
I love the idea that most places are reachable with a 10 min. walk. We in the states could use this. It is really lovely to look at too!
You won't like it when they charge you every time you take your car out on the road which is the direction these 15 min cities are heading in.
Did I miss that part? I didn't hear them say that. I also was thinking from a health standpoint. For many having a grocery store within walking distance would be practical and healthy.@@riche.6660
@@riche.6660You're already doing that. It's called gas. Besides, don't try to shut up a whole concept because some idiots in the US tried to make a dystopian version.
you already are charged every time you take your car out, in multiple ways@@riche.6660
@@demo2823 They love making dystopian corporate versions here ;-;
1,000,000 visitors a year visit Hobbiton in New Zealand and most saying "Would love to live here".
Meanwhile in the same country small family farms have been swallowed up by corporations who complain how difficult it is to attract workers to work in their large sheds built in a bleak landscape were small villages used to be
The irony eh?
Dunno what to say, but you're absolutely right.
NZ often prides itself in trying to find more 'wholistic', and 'inclusive' ways of doing things, but then approves those shoe box apartments,without a second thought. Continues to build suburbs that are extremely far from places of work, doesn't plan to include public transport into those new subdivisions, or if they do it's woefully inadequate on opening for the demand.
Here a British Monarch envisioned a city that has mixed use for it's people, inclusive of social housing as well, and uses the local skill set and materials for construction. Man, and it's often said here that the colonisers have no sense of looking after people.
They'll flatten another village to FIFO workers from Africa shortly
Beautiful. Heritage reinvented. Value your wonderful heritage and historical building styles and craftsmanship
I once visited Poundbury without realising it’s genesis story, and I remarked how stunning it was then, now I’ve watched this video, I appreciate it even more.
I remember a panel discussion in which Alain de Botton (the force behind the dubious advice channel, The School of Life) criticized the architecture of Poundbury, contemptuously dismissing it as "a pastiche". I thought, wait a minute, the town hasn't had any time to acquire a patina, to mellow with age, to gain a lived-in look that would communicate that "Yes. Human beings live here, happily." Alain de Botton, pretentious snob.
Pretentious snobs are full of themselves. Our job is to laugh at them, not let them intimidate us or shame us into not speaking out. After all, these losers would be out of a job if people would stand up to their con game.
@@Beth-77 Yes, indeed, but not always easy to do. Sometimes it requires a swift riposte when one is under attack. The panel included Leon Krier, Charles' principal architect. If memory serves, I don't think that he punched back effectively. The comment about patina was the best riposte that I could think of. I suppose that the happy residents of Poundbury are the best riposte of all. Perhaps, if there were a re-match of that panel, it would be amusing if residents were to skewer de Botton's pretentious snobbery. Wouldn't that be fun to watch.
"Pastiche" has long been the architectural elite's favorite encoded insult, and a shibboleth to those in the know, who know better than we - a secret handshake for insiders. But now they're beginning to sound ridiculous when they use it. Are we winning, at least a little?
Now I don't disagree with the characterisation of TSoL and de Botton, but "snobbery" in effect is the exact reason Poundbury exists.
"Pastiche" has long been the architectural elite's favorite encoded insult, a shibboleth to those in the know, who know better than we - a secret handshake for insiders. But now they risk sounding ridiculous when they use it. Are we winning, at least a little?
"May he defend our laws,
and ever give us cause
to sing with heart and voice
God save the king!"
One aspect i missed in your video, is the economics of current housing development and how that influences design.
As someone who has worked around architecture firms, it isnt so much the architects themselves that promote anti-social designs. They *love* beautiful, sustainable and locally made projects. It is however the developers who want to cut corners at any chance. Cheap materials, cheap labour, no frills or long-term designthinking. They put profits and shareholders before residents. That's the real villains.
What a wonderful channel that I have just bumped into. Thank you. Brilliant video too.
Wow, I never knew that King Charles himself had such an impact on architecture, and was so interested in good, quality architecture! This was a very informative, interesting video about a very interesting town!
It’s been his interest for many years now.
He also had a lot to say and do with retaining historical building in Romania when Ceausescu was demoliting then back in the 1980, he has saved hundreds of thousands of building there and every year visits to see how his projects are doing. 😊
@@dianeshelton9592 Wow, what a hero!
When you have every material need taken care of, you can take interest in many things
This video is utter tosh
My goodness. I almost cannot believe how everything about the town makes sense. If only all "sustainability" and "10 minute cities" and "30 kph zones" looked like this...
This *is* pretty much exactly what a "15 minute city" is.
@@INTCUWUSIUA as a concept, it’s not too bad, I guess. But I came to dislike the forceful and woeful implementation. This one, however, seems to be really nice.
15 minute cities are not and DO NOT have to be a modernist hellscape. that's right wing propaganda, how tf can a community thrive if half the people have to commute 1 hour to get to their jobs/shops?@@kovacdavid
@@kovacdavid Yes the implementation tends to be lacking in a lot of places, in particular in the anglosphere, but that's usually down to NIMBYs and other opposition groups watering down and hamstringing the intended plans.
The thing to do is to push for more and higher standards, and to use succefull examples like this as the template.
I share the critique in the video. More trees and actually lesser pedestrian ways would be benefitial.
Why no pedestrian walkways you ask?
Well, there is a village in Germany which is cramped into a valley. Two roads lead into it and meet in the middle. As it is the only means to get into all the villages in that valley, obviously there is a lot of traffic. A very unsafe environment for the villagers.
The normal reflex would be to have higher pedestrian walkways, more traffic lights, more speed limits, more lanes, etc.
What they actually did was to remove everything, including the pedestrian walkways and plastered the whole village with coplestone.
What happened is that traffic became slower and more alert of pedestrians.
The mayor demonstrated this to a camera team by just walking from one sife of the street to the other side with traffic yielding to her naturally.
Hope to see your next video soon. Im very curious how the Poundbury situation is also affecting other regions in the UK.
This is actually a lovely dose of positive news! It is beautiful, they did a great job by ageing the town off the bat. Love the design!
Thanks for pointing out the Craftsmanship! Outside of the “Disneyland” critique, the most common critique I’ve seen is that “the buildings aren’t really made any different than modern buildings, there’s still steel and concrete but they have these details slapped on the outside” - for one that seems like a moot point since that is the important point to me - living among beautiful, photogenic structures that lift the spirits, are a source of civic pride for residents, and represent vernacular architectural history of the region. That’s my priority, and the fixation on the structure of the building seems to buy so much in to Mies van der Roha’s mindset that the building should reveal how it’s built that they can’t even comprehend it’s not something most people care about!
But now I know this point isn’t even true and the masonry involved is significant.
(Btw the Disneyland critique feels like it’s supposed to be scathing. Like a “what are you some kind of Disney adult that wants to live in a fairytale?” But in vindicated by the results that most people would prefer to live in Disneyland than the quickly abandoned, drab concrete monoliths).
Charles’ crusade for a better built environment has endeared this Yankee to him. Im wishing the states had someone in power with his vision.
The buildings are smaller and do not squeeze every square metre out of the real estate that is possible. It is the greedy capitalism that produces ugly cities. I like driving around in former east germany, as every place was owned by the state, they build spacious, with 10 or 20m distance of the facade of every house from the street, today this looks generous compared to 'wall, sidewalk, trickle, street' of urban squeezeout.
@@flexiblebirdchannel. lol the lovely charm of Stalinist Soviet block cities haha 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 you are funny. Boy those communists really appreciated the human soul and individual feelings. Oh wait, thats exactly what they hated and tried to kill off.
That's because the more accurate comparison is Celebration, Florida, if you're adult enough to actually add to the conversation in your own thought process, not just go "nuh-uh!" like a schoolkid.
Neom isn't drab either.
@flexiblebirdchannel Capitalism is not necessarily at fault. Back in the day, they realized that you make more money by designing a place where people actually want to live. This really only changed when 20th century urbanists who on ideological grounds decided that they knew better how people should be living and that anybody who didn't like it should just shut up.
But, for example the historical city center in my home town was purposefully designed to squeeze every last cent from the available land. But it works, mostly, because in order to make the most profit, they had to provide an attractive urbun design and set regulations to prevent ugly eyesores getting built.
Today tourists cram themselves into the old streets of the city. Completely ignoring the boring and depressing modern neighborhoods that are almost indistinguishable from the depressing and boring neighborhoods you can find almost anywhere else.
Instead the states got Donald Trump…
have been to Poundbury and it is simply a delight , stoped there for a meal when i was traveling from Exiter to Portsmouth
As a journalist who lives near Poundbury, I actually made a video on the town last year. What I found was the town is nice, peaceful and positive, but just out of place in comparison to wider Dorset and South West. Credit to King Charlie cos he got this one right.
I wish His Majesty would initiate this type of development project throughout the Commonwealth. The Canada Lands Company already redevelops surplus government lands, but these new residential and commercial developments are more typical of North American design and planning. I would love to see a "Poundbury" adapted to Upper and Lower Canada architectural vernacular in southern Ontario and Quebec. The same can be done in northwestern Ontario, the prairies, the Rockies, Vancouver and other regional centres in Canada.
Have the profoundly different Québécois architecture here instead, its our rich distinct national architectural history, our rich distinct culture that should be represented here in its whole. The one of British North America/Upper Canada is yours to keep and cherish.
@@Game_Hero That's why I said Lower Canada, as in Quebec.
I live in a town in Southern Ontario with lots of old Victorian houses. And all the new developments are just sterile urban designs, just rows of housing and parks, while all the shops, restaurants, and public spaces are in the old town, it's a disgrace. @@david_walker_esq
The US is also taking inspiration from Poundbury as they’re discovering that people prefer architecture that has character and gives off a homely vibe instead of the sharp and coldness brutalism emits
@@david_walker_esq I get it, but this is really limiting having only one era represented (with not that much of an architectural baggage to be frank it seems compared to other eras in québécois architectural history) compared to all we have to offer as a nation. It'll be like if english architecture was victorian and nothing else. It might have been your golden age of architecture and good enough on its own for you guys, but the same can't really be said for us. Also there wasn't a "respectively" so I assumed it was both for both, my bad.
Man, if only part of my city could be as pleasant as Poundburry... Brazil is a country destroyed in all ways by modernism
You still have some wonderful spots ...
Isso pq vc não mora no inferno que é Brasília
say that to a 10 lane avenue next to a historic train station in sao paolo@@rorykeegan1895
most of new world countries did this, trying to distant themselves from colonial era
Poundbury é local para mim, um bairro de Dorchester, e estranho é com o McDonalds com o pior estacionamento do lado. Espero um mundo de melhor em breve…
I visited recently. It’s wonderful place, a joy to walk around and I imagine a fantastic place to live.
Thank you for creating this video. It's honestly beautifully explained and should be heard by more far and wide to those who are new or equally interested in promoting classical architecture. I'm excited to hear more on the subject sometime soon! Keep up the good work.
The city I live in built a new district with mixed used stores and apartments as well as terrace and single family homes. They did it in a style that mixes the old and new well and built a dedicated cycle road into the city centre (at the time the city had around 200,000 people living in it). The social housing looks the same as the normal housing and all are maintained well
It's a dense neighborhood built right on the edge where everything becomes fields, has good bus links and it works very well. Always love going theough there, its relaxing and is how places should be designed, able to relax with a hot drink under the trees in front of the coffee shop, only the sounds of bycicles, the birds and people talking. It's beautiful
I would have liked to have heard more about the details of the design: the residential layout vs commercial shops, etc. Maybe more in the future? Clearly people appreciate towns actually built on a human scale. I'm sure it must have been novel to have the old world charm along with new construction quality and comfort.
Yeah, this video is really lacking in content or sources to support it's thesis. Which is wild considering it contains an original interview with the designer.
It's 60% declarations about how right Charles was and 40% generic platitudes about urban design that all modernist architects agree with.
He also completely mischaracterizes modernism's approach to shared spaces and construction.
the buildings in this town are frankensteins of traditional design, each building is “wrong” traditionally, they’ll use windows from one era with window sills from another etc. Which is why so many architects hate this town, it tried to be traditional yet was just wrong
Many architects have ruined the country in their pursuit of not kitsch.
Poundbury is far more pleasant than say Milton Keynes or Coventry, which are modern cities.
@@benerikson I think they tried to take the best from tradition and the best from modern times while meeting financial restrictions in order to make Poundbury. They were not looking to recerate the past and make a museum town.
@@beneriksonwhat a dumb nitpick
Wow this town really has grown and looks totally stunning. I remember years ago this was talked about, but over time i think including myself people have forgotten about it.
loved the video, great job as always!
Who knew KCIII was a champion of walkable cities and good urbanism. I can't wait for urbantube to do their round of videos on this.
He's actually well known for his interest in art and architecture.
Good video! Charles is too often dismissed by people who join in shallow opinions that are easy to repeat. Videos like this might encourage deeper thought.
idk, republicanists may have a point. As do people not wanting a monarch oceans away. But I'll agree with him on urbanism.
@@Game_Heroas an American I have a deep love for republics as a former of government... but I have to say, as I get older... most of my main arguments have not held up well in the 21st century... depressingly so... our government does not listen to the people at all, we have almost no affect on what happens in DC, every year things here get worse and worse and the people slip deeper into despair... I don't want to get anymore political here as this is an architectural channel and we can all agree on supporting traditional architecture... but what the people want in a republic (beautiful architecture included) doesn't seem to be listened to any more then any other form of government.
@@daveweiss5647 That's a very american-centric experience that does not reflect necessarily elsewhere. I mean it was a mayor, a municipal government, behind nearly all the exemples of this channel (like that french and icelandic one). One must also understand this push for beautiful architecture is fairly recent compared to the previous century of its opposite, so it doesn't have to do much with government as to what the people elect them for and more "there wasn't much time to change course". Doomerism won't help anyone, especially not the right to criticize the government who often makes these decisions to follow the modernist trend so it can change course like it has and did happen. Also, all the money saved by having a president instead can go to finance beautiful architecture and other stuff like education instead. I'm not sure North Koreans agrees that their reality is being on the same level of "being listened too" as in Switzerland. It's positive optimism for change and making governments more democratic by popular checking and correcting that'll make these changes happen and having at least the actual choice to put them out if they don't that'll make the world better.
@@Game_HeroI won't argue with any of your points, it does seem like Switzerland has a much more representative system then most... but Indid have to chuckle at "the money saved by having a president"... when you're talking to an American you can see how thay might not apply to us....
Yes, you need a figurehead who has no business or election motivations, he just wants to see his country do something good.
We've been there so many times, the pub is really good, especially at Christmas as is the garden centre across the road.
If this is done in a way that new young workers and families can afford to live there, then this seems like a very nice idea for more towns across the country. Especially if you need to clear derelict areas for projects or whatnot
Small correction, it's 'His Majesty', not 'His royal highness'. That was a style used when he was still Prince of Wales.
Came here to say this
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Uhm actually... There should be a finger emoji.🤓👆 @@alialdoukhi2014
Misuse of a comma. "Small correction:"*
@@AwesomeHairo Text followed by * generally indicates a correction. In this case would the corrected statement be with “Small correction:” including the quotation marks?
Please do a scary Halloween video about brutalism in architecture
Sometimes historical brutalism slaps tbf - but rarely
We shouldn't generalize, brutalism can work, this very channel has shown exemples of it. It's how it's designed and thought out.
@@Game_Hero It can work well in dystopian sci-fi movies or video games (e.g. Lectra City in Borderlands 3).
Any video about Brutalism would be scary. It's so damned awful, but I caught Hell in a Facebook group six months ago when I said so. In the case of Poundbury, the King has clothes, and I'm not afraid to say it.
@@Game_Hero I have yet to see a brutalist building that looked better than just about any well-proportioned architecture that adheres to what was learned about proportions would have looked. If something is going to be radically different, it should be judged as to whether it was radically better. Same for international style, it should have to justify itself as opposed to other choices. Beautiful buildings shouldn't be the ones that have to justify themselves.
Great stuff, many thanks. I’m a huge fan of Krier (as well as Salingaros).
The Kings idea is absolutely amazing and has fantastic vision.
Fortunately, Britain still has a conservative, traditional, and Christian monarchy that is critical of Modernism.
Never heard of this, but it's fantastic. We need way more of this! More beauty will solve a lot of issues in the world.
I remember when Charles was the media's royal "villain." (Harry's turn, now.) According to them, he couldn't do anything right. Well, this looks quite nice!
I do think they could take some notes from the Netherlands and think a bit more about public transport and bicycles. But it's a major move forward. So much more liveable than a "dormitory suburb." (Perfect term, by the way.)
Bicycles are very nice, but their extreme popularity is a fashion. A fad. They'll lose a whole lot of their popularity in 10 or 15 years.
@@miketackabery7521 Bikes have been around for over 150 years...
@@miketackabery7521Hardly. If proper bicycle infrastructure is provided, cycling can become an established part of the transportation mix. For shorter distances they are just really convenient. Dutch cities have set the example decades ago and nobody there would argue that bicycles are just a fad.
@@miketackabery7521 this is laughable, if bicycle is a fad then why does the dutch love it. And why is there a world widr wish to use it for transport.
Charles was the media's punching bag because a lot of wealthy people who had vested financial interests in building modern architecture also controlled the media.
I remember reading about this when it was being built. I wondered how it worked out. I thought it sounded like an amazing idea.
Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁👍
I never knew this town even existed! Thank you for this video and for all the work you do. As an interior designer I remember when I was studing the push and the indoctrination from our professors even here in Greece , to prove that brutalism and Avant-garde was a way to uprise against the establishment. What a pile of horseshit and waste of good teaching they were . We could learn so many intriguing techniques from our past and instead they chose to brush some off as quickly as they could.
I accidentally visited Poundbury once. I was doing a mini holiday visiting Devon/Dorset, and I booked an Airbnb to stay in Dorchester.
We got to Poundbury at night, and the town centre looked a bit dead. But when I left the house in the the morning it seemed like a nice enough place.
Very pleasant familiar style, like the types of villages/small towns I grew up in, but something was off. The roads were a little too wide, and the doorways and ceilings were a little too high for such an old building/neighbourhood.
They did a great job. They've built it in a beautiful style that's cosy, human scaled, restful to the eye, but with the scale and function that suits modern life (taller people, bigger cars etc.)
Only possible improvement I can think of is a local train station /tram to the centre, but that's a problem almost all british towns have 😂
Poundbury only has 4000 residents, so it's never going to be that lively, but I don't think anyone would ever go there for the nightlife. The cost there though will probably have a negative impact on the number of small shops and business that will be able to open there though.
@@RevStickleback Even with 4000 residents that is still odd, my old village has 5 pubs for over 2000 residents - the nightlife is always busy. I love to see the average age and headcount on the people who actively live in Poundbury
It is so beautiful and I hope it keeps replicating all over the western world. So beautiful! There is a development in Mexico called Val’Quirico which reminds me of this, it’s a beautiful town built in an Italian medieval town way and it has been attracting so many people every week to visit it. A new one is being built in Baja calles Valle de Sassi incorporating vineyards and the Italian heritage of the region! So beautiful.
I wish they would do something like this in Canada. We have so many citys with beautiful 1800s architecture and its just drowned out by all the modern concrete and all of 12+ storie building ruining the skyline :/
I like gardens
Dorchester is connected to Poundbury and you can find semi-detached housing with large gardens there, much like everywhere else in Britain. Poundbury made the conscious decision to create a high density settlement to avoid suburban sprawl. The surrounding playgrounds, fields and allotments are part of the development and will never be built on. Krier and his team did design a 500 home extension to Malton in Yorkshire and incorporated larger gardens. It's possible future developments accommodate people with green fingers that want their own larger plot.
Another brilliant video and I'm so glad you covered Poundbury. Against the sea of ugly developments plaguing the UK, it stands out as a genuine effort to create a place that strives for beauty, that people can be happy and proud to live in and aims to be timeless.
It is certainly pleasing to the eye and I think offers a sense of continuity from ancient times to modern, which is actually comforting. I would love to see that happening in the US.
I love Poundbury! Great idea, very beautiful. I hope to visit it someday
One item not mentioned is Poundbury's access - or lack thereof - to the UK's rail system. A town may be walkable, but if you need a car to go anywhere else, that undermines one of its chief attractions.
Dorchester train station is a 35 min walk from Poundberry town centre
@@TorontoL322 That's much too far. That makes Poundbury less attractive. If you live there, you need a car.
35-minute does makes sense to me.
As a Filipino who doesn't even live in Britain, walking that distance is never an issue. Heck, It's a free workout.
It's not too far at all. And don't forget busses or bikes to take you there. @@Bobrogers99
@@uyfhkgc4468 Not a fun walk in the rain, and I live in where we get plenty of snow. And I'm 85.
Thank you for this! Poundbury is Hope for the Future.
It's a desperate grab at the past, loved by people who look back to "England's (never Britain's you notice) glorious past".
I am not from the UK, and I must say there is absolutly nothing wrong with people who look back to England's glorious past, though in Poundbury's case it's looking back to England's simple, communal, lovely, town culture past, while injecting into it modern ideas such as 35% social housing (impressive and far more egalitarian than traditional England ever was).@@TonyWhitley
@@TonyWhitleyGo away, lefty
Some of his ideas for the town, walking distance, parks, etc, sound a lot like Levittown. Maybe you could do a video on Levittown and whether it could work today???
There should be more of these towns , the workshops especially !!
Beautiful town. I hope these inspire people to create more beautiful buildings
Love King Charles for his advocacy for what is good and beautiful. It is more important than most people think.
I read about this development around 2002 from the town's website, or was it The Prince's Trust website. It was amazing and so interesting to me. The ideals he wanted to achieve were admirable and to see them coming into fruition was a huge success. What appealed so much to me was to have shops, amenities, businesses and workplaces within 10min of walking, using local building materials and architectural styles, and also the lack of street signs that make the town look even more quaint and stress free, albeit I thought you'd require a good map to navigate the whole town due to the lack of it. Only let down is having no direct rail links. I told my UK friends about Poundbury and was surprised they didn't know. I explained glowingly to them prompting them to read up about it and were blown away by the project. And I'm from faraway Singapore and really jealous of what can be achieved with Poundbury's model of a sustainable and successful town planning.
Stunning place! Great video ❤
I applaud this project and Charles Windsor’s strong push for people and community friendly environments. I reside in just such a neighborhood. I returned to my birth place, Albuquerque, NM. and live in one of the older or oldest neighborhoods, Old Town / Plaza Vieja. My adobe casita was built in 1915. I am able to walk or bike to the grocery the bank, restaurants and pubs or breweries, shoe repair.…. a 20:00 nd the downtown train depot which I use to get to Santa Fe. Sadly some of the older buildings like the Alvarado Hotel were 20:00 demolished in the ‘70’s but many remain and Plaza Vieja remains with now newer businesses additions at the plaza that attract locals and not just tourists. The city 20:00 of Albuquerque is now working on and with the rails to trails project. Utilizing abandoned rail trunk lines that serviced industrial warehouses and the like. The rails to trail project will provide a green and inviting network of trails and paths for pedestrians and bikes and skates and art fairs and growers markets; now if we can figure out how to serve and respect the homeless.. we will.
What a visionary! I hope they release a book on lessons learned when the last phase is completed
yeah, my grandma lives here so I pop down every so often. She even met King Charles at one point
Amazing! We nees more projecta like this!
It's too bad they didn't have the budget for the cobblestone streets. I think that would have been such a nice touch.
Cobblestone streets are not accessible for people with wheelchairs, nor kids in prams, nor pensioners. Yes, they look nice but if I had to choose between beauty and accessibility, I'd always pick accessibility, no matter what it would look like. And yes, I'm a wheelchair user, that's where my point of view comes from. 😂
@@AdamBurianek92I think that the original plan was for flat “bricks” to make up the streets, or at least that’s what was shown in the video, and that might be wheelchair accessible, but I don’t know
Cobbles are very noisy, listen to some Italian walk around vids.
@@AdamBurianek92not all cobblestone bricks are like that, there are cobblestone roads in Bruges, Belgium where I live where it’s extremely smooth. People use bicycles and wheelchairs there all the time without problem. It’s because Bruges roads were built with the highest quality craftsmanship where price came last, it really depends on the effort and money put into it
@@troublemak3r134Excellent point! I'm going to look out for a video on Bruges next! ❤
I always believed that having a monarchy is the best way to protect tradition.
Well done sir. Respect to the King
What a brilliant idea! This should spread everywhere 😊
King Charles has so much to offer the world. I'm so glad that he was able to accomplish big projects even before becoming king. I'd never heard of this community and his part in it until this video. It's fascinating! Of course people would rather live in an aesthetically quaint/beautiful place than live in cold, generic housing! I hope this story reaches key people so that it has an even greater impact! Well done, King Charles!
Thanks for creating these videos! it's really heart-warming to see that there are people who think that way about architecture!
Thank you for your videos and for forwarding the vision of building more beautiful places. You are an inspiration.
From what I see in the video, it definitely looks like a peaceful place to live
Will you make a video about the projects of Corviale in Rome and the Zen in Palermo designed by the italian architect Ettore Maria Mazzola? Maybe you can interview him to talk about his projects