The Cult of Dr. Phil | Big Joel
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- Опубликовано: 27 дек 2020
- Let's talk about an episode of Dr. Phil where he gets super weird!
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Footnote: So, here are a few bits of information you might find interesting about this episode but that didn't have any weight on the video itself. First, Bailey returned to the show. She came back and met Jasmine. It's pretty boring. Second, Phil forcing Bailey off the show might not be the end of her presence on the episode. Talking to Bailey's mother, Phil says he might bring her back on. Not really sure what happens after that. 
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yup thouroughly enjoyed this i have watched it all through and through indeed
Where do you get those great sweaters?
"lied"? Thinking too much about Dr. Phil?
@@miguel09211994 ditto!
Haha, yes, I lied it very much! :)))
"Nobody turns their trauma into a spectacle on my show. That's my job."
Yeah. It's patently absurd that a man with a TV show even pretends that he isn't about the spectacle. It literally what he's about. If there's no spectacle, there's no show.
Someones trauma is someone else's form of entertainment..
@@klaustrophobic3643 Though, taste dictates that you either have it be fictional people with trauma... or kings in a "historical production" that contains almost none of the "history" part and entirely relies on the "production" part
... "Oh shit, I'm in a graveyard... time for my incredibly funny dead body/skeleton puppetry bit where I do my take on Spanish theatre! Just before seeing that girl I'm a total piece of shit towards again, after my Uncle attempted to get me killed in a way I don't remember well--Pirates were involved though!"
The audience buys into the exploitative premise of the show the moment they purchase tickets. It's what enables such blatant hypocrisy. I don't believe he's not aware of this, somewhere in his soul. He must know. Ratings are his sole, threadbare, corrupted form of redemption.
nO oNe TeLlS mE wHo To PuT oN mY sHoW
“You may live in a fantasy world but I do not” -Dr Phil to a schizophrenic because they hurt his ego
that’s the whole show at this point
It's so horrible
Callum, can you please define Schizophrenia for me, because I dont think you know what it is. Please do it without looking it up.
@ I think the specific medical term used there is not very important. Just replace it with “person suffering from delusions” if it makes you feel better.
@ I think the comment is more a general jab at Dr Phil's approach rather than the specific situation.
Bottom line: therapy should be private. Even if Phil was bringing a therapist and not a piece of shit, it still would be a morally bankrupt show because it’s public.
yea.. therapy atleast where im from is always private UNLESS you are either, A trying to kill yourself, B trying to kill someone else, or C someone is trying to kill you. i never really needed therapy but im glad its quite professional.
Why should you care about morality when he getting that fat bag
*dabs furiously*
I know! And I wonder why someone would agree to come on the show. I kind of think it's because the guests are supposed to get treatment and can't afford to get help any other way. If that's the case, then Dr. Phil is taking full advantage of an extremely broken healthcare system.
EXACTLY
i would fully disagree with this. i mean obviously it should be private in the sense that your therapist shouldn’t run around talking about you to a bunch of strangers, but what constitutes privacy is defined by the patient and not the therapist. if you want to bring more people into your sessions, you can, that does include the entire world is you so wish it. not to mention the fact that there are entire forms of therapy that are group and community based. and i just want to be clear, none of this is in defense of the Doctor Phil show specifically, but like his show isn’t amoral conceptually, it’s flawed in practice. there’s absolutely a healthy and honesty probably widely beneficial ways to do therapy on a national stage, if the focus was on actually treating the underlying issues and not just making a reality show lol.
Wow. That is extremely dangerous. You can't challenge a delusion up front like that without establishing trust and empathy. I hope that girl found an actual therapist.
Exactly. Granted I'm not a therapist (Phil really isn't, either), but I've worked crisis/suicide intervention for years, and though we don't generally play into anything that may be outside of some actual "reality," we absolutely don't act antagonistic to it. If someone tells me the sky is red, me trying to convince them the sky blue isn't going to work, nor is it even helpful. Belittling someone who says that is even worse. Phil is a dumpster fire and always has been. This woman deserved so, so much better.
@@myjessicajourney1915 I also am not a therapist but I did take a few classes in college along with having broken with reality a few times due to my own mental illnesses and being neurodivergent. I can't speak for what this girl was going threw. I'm not going to pretend I know what made this break happen. In my own experience, it comes from not being able to deal with a mix of unending stress, depression, and burnout on top of not having access to mental healthcare as in the US it's still very much a luxury to get care.
I think what happened is whatever was going on in Baily's life just kept compounding. It's clear she doesn't have a real support system of people in her real life who love and care for her. Pair that with the parasocial relationships that come from social media and this is what happens. I get the feeling that Baily had already been really into Jasmine's content before she had a mental and emotional snap with reality. That in my unprofessional option happened. Baily needed to feel like someone cared and because Jasmine was there making content that was comforting to Baily and in her mind wasn't just content being made by a creator but love letters to her threw that perceived deeper relationship that never existed.
To be clear I do not blame Jasmine for this happening. She was just making makeup and fashion content online. Baily is to blame for her actions of stalking this poor woman. To the point, she reached out to the show most likely assuming that because its called Dr. Phil that Phil was a real therapist who could get Baily the help she needed.
I don't think Jasmine did this to be crewl to Baily I think if anything its so sad that out of all the people in this womans life its the influencer she stalked who cared enough to want her to get help and not any of the people around Baily in real life.
Exactly. Most of the time, they stem from pre-developed mental illnesses and challenging a delusion is dangerous for so many reasons. If he knew what he was doing he wouldn’t have put his guest through this. Absolutely awful on his part
This is truly disturbing. The worst kind of therapy. Therapy from a malignant narcissist😔.
"I don't live in fantasyland." --guy who hasn't renewed his license to practice psychological therapy since 2006.
He's larping as a therapist
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Exactly!
He doesn't have a practice any more. He doesn't need a license to do his show. They know this going in.
"I'm not going to let you play the victim" he says to a literal victim.
Yes!
And a possible schizotypal personality disorder or another similar disorder. My brother in law has schizophrenia and he really struggles with it. His parents and siblings constantly berate, make fun of, yell at, and dismiss him and it INFURIATES me. The only time I've ever screamed at my sister in law was the time she screamed at him when he was in mid-delusion. You don't treat people who have mental health problems like they are circus animals or freaks. This episode always makes me think of my brother in law and how he is treated by his family. It's so bad that he looks up to my husband (his younger brother) as a father figure because my husband and I are the only 2 people who have genuinely loved him or held out a helping hand. I hate people who belittle others, especially if they are struggling with any type of disorder or trauma.
I'd like to see how he deals with a schitzophrenic... "oh you think the TV is talking you? Well I'm on TV and I'm telling you to get out of here, I don't tolerate delusions on this show".
Exactly my thoughts!
i think the victim might be the woman she was stalking......
Girl: Acts like a mature adult with a justified emotional reaction. Doesn’t come across as rude, hostile, spoiled, or absolutely delusional.
Dr Phil: “No. You weren’t supposed to do that.”
Absolutely.
a guy gets killed for buying a chocolate bar.. then theres dr phil literally mentally scarring people and gets fucking rich from it.. why is this world so fucked up.
People are still mocking Bailey. I just saw a clip of her here and all of the comments were negative towards her
Hes the kind of guy to make the victim and the bully hug
But he'll spend twenty f*cking minutes stating that he would never allow a victim and their abuser to be in the same room unless the victim wants it to happen. That sentence should take less than a minute to say, though in these episodes, he egotistically rants for ten minutes about it.
This says it all. I never thought about it before now but you are exactly right.
he did... but it was worse, he forced a CSA victim to hug her abuser all because he "passed a lie detector test" (lie detectors arent even real.) its disgusting.
This is literally gaslighting in action. Dr. Phil says no one tells me who I can have on my show. That’s not what she was doing. She’s not saying you can’t have my mother on the show she’s saying she would not have agreed to be there if she knew her mother would be there. His intentionally using deception to manipulate her.
much of what he did was gaslighting
Exactly. He makes her look and feel like a fool even though all of her complaints are legitimate and valid. Textbook gaslighting and that girl will likely have another trauma to bear after coming on this show.
His entire show is gaslighting. He brings people out with the pretense of helping them through their psychological problems only to berate them, humiliate them in front of a live studio audience, and accuse them of being the unreasonable one in the process.
Helena Šváchová it’s really sad and nauseating how eagerly he re-traumatized this poor woman.
he's doing this to someone who _just_ fucking told him that she was an abuse victim
he's fucking evil
Dr. Phil: "I'm here to help you by surprising you with a meeting with your abuser. We're not here to laugh at you. But if we do laugh it's because you're super duper nuts. If you don't like it you can leave. But if you do, I will be deeply offended and you're a horrible person. I wish you well, crazy person. Get out. I'm totally an ethical therapist."
Succinctly put.
These comments make me more and more angry as it’s spelled out. He’s so gross.
That's more what he said than the actual words he said.
His producers and patients don't tell him how to do his clinical work, which he doesn't have a license to do
@@Thatonedude917 No regulatory body is going to tell him how to do his clinical work either!
Bailey actually showed tremendous dignity in this interview. I hope she is in a good place now.
Ah yes. I remember my first day in therapy when I was 17. I got the bus and tried to keep it a secret. I explained my traumas and expressed how my mother did not believe in mental health and was one of the causes of my eating disorder (she would make fun of my weight in public and buy clothes too small for me so I'd have to lose weight to wear them). The therapist made me wait outside while I was still crying. Called me back in and told me she's going to tell my mother because it's the best step forward. I've never panicked so hard in my life and to this day have never seeked therapy again.
I’m so sorry! How are you now? That’s not normal behaviour from a therapist, if you want to try again.
that's so terrible. please don't discount all therapists because one so horribly betrayed you. it took me a few tries to find the right one, but my current therapist has helped me so much.
I would highly recommend trying some different therapists and let them know about that experience so you can find out if the different therapists will suit your needs
Yikes. I had the same experience from my mom and it also fueled an ED… I’m sorry you had to go through that as well and I hope you’re doing better now.
Honestly this was also my worst fear as a kid/teen/young adult. It may not be the best bit of advice but for anyone scared to go id recommend waiting until you are legally an adult, that way they legally cannot tell anyone you dont consent to.
“How dare you be so melodramatic while an audience of middle-aged, self-loathing housewives laughs at your trauma!
You make me sick.”
“These women come here to feel better about themselves in their depressing mediocrity by mocking irregular people and you pointing that out hurts their feelings! Get out of my temple!”
The audience complicity in this video is so apperant and most disturbing to me. They all have that condescending look shaking their heads while Dr. Phil just talks shit about her in in a way that would get anyone disbarred.
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"why would talking about your trauma in front of a TV audience then being exposed to your lifelong abuser make you uncomfortable??"
Idk the only people I see talking about watching Dr Phil these days are 20 something guys.
You're actually not allowed to inolve a parent without the client's consent, sooo
The only reason he even gets away with it is because hes not a licenced psychologist so these people dont count as clients and he can lie to them all he wants.
That’s why you should always read your contract 🤷🏻♀️
Also, she is an adult and should probably be treated as such.
If it makes for good TV, heck yeah Phil will do it. This show is hard to watch because he is such a bully and they take the abuse because they are on TV on his dime.
I live in a different country, but I remember signing a bunch of forms to approve of my therapists talking to my parents when they were trying to diagnose me (autism) and again later during therapy (depression). They could not even contact anyone in my life, parents, friends, school, or even my physician without my signed permission. Not even when I was 15 and still lived with my parents.
Of course, I considered it a mere formality since I had no issues sharing that information, but the fact is that they legally required my signature.
I just want to say from the perspective of a person who has schizophrenia and has experienced very compelling delusions this is the absolute worst thing you can do for someone with delusions. This is called reality checking and it is a genuine technique. The problem is that reality checking is only helpful under certain conditions because it requires the person to be and, importantly, stay responsive to it through intense vulnerability. You need to understand that Bailey is essentially being told to accept that she can't trust her own thoughts, memories, or reasoning. That is an extremely hard thing to do. I can say with great certainty that Dr.Phil knows what he did was the incorrect course of action and did it to try to incite Bailey to be belligerent. Then when it didn't work he threw her off the stage. There is no compassion there, no mentality that Bailey's mental health is important, he doesn't want to help the mentally ill he wants to create a circus side show with a tent full of freaks where everyone can point and laugh.
Side note: patients do absolutely have a say in any good mental health worker's clinical actions and decisions towards them the vast majority of the time. Because the patient and clinician should be on the same team and cooperation is incredibly important. If a patient were to request for a family member to not be involved, so long as it isn't essential to the treatment, that person would not be involved (with exceptions).
That makes a lot of sense. I was very good friends with a man with schizophrenia and I used to have to be very gentle with him bc he believed people were coming to his house to move items around. I instinctively knew NOT to disagree, instead listen empathetically and be there for him when he was having an episode.
Thank you for sharing, bipolar I here with delusions during episodes and when it happens it's not something I can snap out of.
Phil is literally gaslighting this girl on television and people are like “yeah she’s the problematic one”
IMAGINE SEEING ALL YOUR TRAUMA BULLETPOINTED ON A SMARTBOARD HOLY SHIT
This trauma. This trauma and this trauma....
IKR
Therapy is a slow process where you help the person bring out their trauma themselves not shove it down their throats in front of a laughing audience adnksbfksbfjdhfdj
while the guy is totally turned away from you and not interested in being even slightly sympathetic or hearing how you feel about it. and if you try to say anything he makes you the problem. he should put their current interaction on the fucking trauma list
I'm not going to let you play like she's the victim here
@@MarcillaSmith I'm not going to let you think that you know anything about what she went through, Miss "Not the victim"
Add this humiliating experience to the list of traumas to that girl. Yikes.
Yeah solid one phil, ridiculing a traumatized rape victim in front of a live audience surely will go a long way to help her mental state like she needs actual therapy and this was the exact opposite
there is a way to handle this but he just don't care. some people after all their pain or issues, still have enough strength to share it with others so it's not like there's no value but Dr Phil is useless haha.
yes she's a conventionally attractive white girl living in the US, life is really going to be uphill for her
@@loonachan way to downplay the struggles of mental health.
@@loonachan yet she is traumatized and sad and lives with delusions. Hm
Phil is to therapy as Tucker Carlson is to journalism.
Telling the God's honest truth with FACTS?
(I'm just fucking with you. Fuck them both right in the ear). :P
And yeah. Good point. Bailey saying “you can all laugh at me” basically breaks the 4th wall. The audience might actually evaluate their behavior and say “omg I’ve been laughing at a poor girl with real issues all because the applause sign turned green” so dr Phil is clearly threatened by that. I think threatened by her in general. He’s been trying to get her off the stage since she got up.
Yea as soon as phill new she was upset at the show he knew she had to go before she broke the fourth wall. honestly I’m surprised he didn’t think of some excuse to kick her out immediately
Breaking the fourth wall only works with fiction.
@@jostockton. that's the point. the audience knows on the surface that its nonfiction, but they treat it like fictional entertainment. she is not actually breaking the fourth wall, she is reminding them that she is real.
“We’re not about making a spectacle of this”
He says in front of several cameras under studio lights and in front of an audience.
Legitimately unbelievable. Like, *what*?
And he claims he does not live in a fantasy land
Whole scene is silly if she didn’t want to be made a spectacle of she should have gotten her treatment from a licensed therapist in private. And dr Phil shouldn’t pretend that he isn’t exploiting people’s past trauma for ratings.
Making a spectacle of themselves would be if they were drawing attention to themselves in a ridiculous way. They were not doing that.
As a non-American, the American obsession with televising everything including (purported) therapy is genuinely creepy as fuck. I like some hollywood movies and a lot of American music is good, but I hope we never get this kind of cultural export.
Imagine going to a therapist and then when you say “I’m sad” they’re so offended by that they make you leave.
Patient: Hey I feel like you’re making fun of me and my situation and that makes me uncomfortable-
Therapist: Alright get the fuck out of my office
He's not licensed to be a therapist in his state, iirc he lost his license in texas and can't have one. When you go onto his show you have to sign papers saying you acknowledge you shouldn't take any advice.
He's just a piece of shit lol.
@@waterdragon2.08 so he’s a doctor in the sense that Prager U is a university?
@@WeDwellinaFiefdom Yeah pretty much, he has a ph.d in psychology but that doesn't necessarily mean hes a therapist, or a good one!
That literally happened to me. I asked my psychiatrist to explain my diagnosis and he told me to get out and prevented me from seeing any other practitioner forcing me to stay on meds that made me psychotic
What really struck me was how smart and strong she was, considering the situation. She immediately called him out on inviting her biological mother, she saw right through his therapy facade to the truth of that being a circus with her as the monkey. Considering not only all the trauma she experienced but just the situation of facing an authoritative figure, in his turf and in front of television cameras, she was incredibly cognizant of what was going on and amazingly able to stand up for herself.
I think it also really exposes how fragile and weak Phil is. Even when he tried to control every aspect of his show, he still got completely owned to his face, where he cowardly canceled the interview to reclaim control over the interview/narrative. He's a terrible person, this is just a microcosm of the macro.
i had a shitty therapist who acted a lot like dr phil. she’d be like “well you can always leave” when she’d emotionally abuse me and try to “give me an out” but making it clear i didn’t have a choice. she’d say things like “well just because you’re upset doesn’t mean i have to think it’s right (to be upset)”
anyway i reported her to that state’s board (she did some other stuff including violating the privacy of other patients and myself. but her emotional abuse was also brought to the board’s attention)
that behavior isn’t okay from a therapist in private and especially not for the world to see on national television
I was friends with a therapist for years (not my own), and he was one of the most manipulative and abusive lunatics I ever met. Needless to say his job was making it easier for him to do this since he can learn everybody's everything every time he goes to work and how to use it against people in their personal lives.
The way he showed "raped by a friend" on a screen and reading it out loud is probably one of the cruelest behaviors I've ever seen.
My heart absolutely clenched for her. I swear I can see her dissociating from the circus of her current reality. It's like some fucked up skit.
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it was so disgusting, and the worst part for me is how complicit the audience is
With the obvious implication that it wasn’t really rape because he was a friend and rape only happens with strangers. 🤮🤮🤮
Hearing and seeing her cry the words “I don’t live in fantasy land” just broke my heart. I wish this cancerous show would be cancelled. No telling how many families he’s affected in a negative way. My guess would be it would be equal to the positive affects his show has had.
She DOES live in fantasy land, but yeah she needs mental help, not to be laughed at.
Remember that Oprah gave this fraud his start.
I bet this show's done way more harm than good, I mean the whole point of it is to laugh at mentally unstable (often delusional), broken and hurting people. Oof
@@oliviarose3513 That's not the whole point. The real point is to try and help the troubled guests to see things more clearly and then accept the actual real therapy and whatever else they need that Dr. Phil always offers to sarrange them with the best resources in thecountry free of charge. And, also, by making it a tv episode may spread beneficial information about whatever problems it is about. But, I'm not saying it's not also morally wrong format in some ways. As it is obvious these episodes get heavily edited for entertainment purposes and there is the studio audience laughing and clapping which would be utterly unnecessary if this was only about helping and spreading awerness. So, I wouldn't judge this show as nothing but harmful, but also wouödn't praise it as innocent philantrophic work.
It's what my abusive parents would tell me when I cried after they berate me for forgetting to do the dishes
Not bringing a third party into a therapy session without the consent of the patient is one of the most basic rules of therapy, right next to confidentiality and not dating a patient. If Dr. Phil had a legitimate practice and deliberately invited Bailey's mother to a session behind her back, he'd lose his license that day.
Hearing the audience clap as he bullies her is sickening.
I like that all he cares about is therapy and he proceeds to throw out the person getting therapy, like talking to Bailey's mom and not Bailey and never seeing Bailey again has some therapeutic benefit to Bailey
Yes this!!!
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Now about Dr Phil: I agree with your observation, nothing to add here. He doesn't care about the well-being of his guests at all.
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He quit being a licensed therapist to focus on practicing real, proven therapy. I believe it was Gerhardt Adler who first proposed the reconstruction of the dysfunctional superego via a 90-minute daytime television taping.
You know someone's a good therapist when they're immediately hostile to their patients and have no interest in engaging with them.
I'll never forget the episode where he had a family on the show where the daughter as a child claimed her father had abused her and the mother believed her and removed the father from their lives. Now as an adult, they go on the show. Dr Phil has the dad take a lie detector test (which are inaccurate and in no way are usable in court. you can literally take classes to pass them) and supposedly he had passed and that was proof he never abused the daughter. The mom and daughter are crying and Dr Phil is like, "This is good news! Your father never touched you! You can have him back in your life now!" And the mom is a wreck and asks to be tested too. In this full breakdown, they test her and she, of course, doesn't pass because she's already in a full breakdown! And they tell her she failed the test. And is trying to get the daughter to hug her dad. WTF!!!
That's... disgusting, revolting, horrible, and just in general _malpractice_ .
Yeah um is he an actual doctor because he 10000000% should not be
@@isabelladunne1069 Sadly, yes; he got a PhD in clinical psychology from University of North Texas in 1979. I'm sure he was respectable back in the day, but he has clearly lost his way since then.
Why tf hasn't this been cancelled. We can get ellen cancelled but not this abysmal shit? Btw not defending ellen in any way.
I’ve always hated Dr. Phil so much, that he is one of the media figures whose continued presence and prestige truly baffles me. It’s literally beyond comprehension to me how anyone can watch the actual content and thinks that the guy is actually right somehow. Like, I get that there’s a huge thing about seeing “deluded”, arrogant or entitled people getting “comeuppance” by having someone, often in a sarcastic and deliberate mean way, just “tell them like it is”. Basically every stage/talent audition shows are 80% that. Having Gordon Ramsay tear someone to shreds because they thought they baked the best cake, but then their caked sucked it’s like a collective catharsis - We see people like that always, and if only we could, we would be like Ramsay. At least, that’s the appeal for the people watching, even if it might not work for me and you. But, regardless of what one may think about shiting on the head of someone who sings bad or who cooks bad for daring to think otherwise, those are still MILES from a “therapist” who grills people who need help in their personal lives. Because I don’t need to be a therapist to know that what he does is the opposite of therapy - Literally took me one consult with an actual therapist to know that. And like, what does shit like that does for the broader societal perception of “therapy”/how to deal with interpersonal problems? Because I think it throws the concept back 100 years or more. I have 0 doubts that if it wasn’t something that would actually result in problems for him, 2 out of 3 Dr. Phil episodes would end with him sending someone to Bedlam for having an episode of the “humors” or some shit. Prescribing blood drainage via leeches for dealing with phlegmatic temper.
Because it definitely is this bad. He acts straight up as a sanatorium director, not a modern psychotherapist.
It’s the closest thing we have to “mental health anti-vax”. At least, closest thing so far…
tl;dr - i fucking hate dr phil so much holy shit
“Dr.” Phil: I believe you have DEREALIZation disorder (which is the feeling of the things and people around you not being real)
“Dr.” Phil two seconds later: *berates her for living in a fantasy world*
could you imagine if you were in a real therapist's office and in the middle of you talking they put a flashing alarm graphic up on a giant screen and just started shouting "COMMON SENSE ALERT! COMMON SENSE ALERT!"
Oh god you just awakened all my memories about how much I despise Dr. Phil.
Loved your newest vid and was so sad to see it gone for so long. I'm so glad it's up again! It was really good
Tell us about it! (if you feel like it lol. Would really enjoy it)
Me too
I remember when he said, “I agree with you, and want you to be able to keep doing what doing. I know you have good intentions.” To a man who was a superspreader while at the same time practically berating this dumb 20 something he previously knew because she licked a toilet on a private jet.
Do tell
Licensed therapist here: that whole clip with Bailey made me feel nauseous. Disgusting and unprofessional behavior.
Even watching as someone with no psychological knowledge at all when I first watched this clip the way he treated her just came off as cruel.
Well Dr. Phil is an Oprah clone
They are selling suffering, shame, fear, sensation... It's a TV show, we're in the 21st century. What do you expect
@@lovelyismydog this show could air on TLC.
he's not a therapist
As someone who watches this show a lot because my dad ends up having it on during the day, he generally gets SUPER touchy about people mentioning or interacting with the audience. And ESPECIALLY SO if they make any sort of reference to this being a television show meant to showcase and exploit their issues. I don't think this old man will ever understand how awful it is for a regular person to have their paper graded in front of a crowd.
I remember I watched Pewdiepie a lot when I was younger, and was pretty far into the epic gamer "facts don't care about your feelings" mentality, and watched and enjoyed a lot of his Dr. Phil reactions. But the time he reacted to Bailey's episode was the first time it clicked for me that it's more complicated than just pointing out a delusion, being rude and getting a crowd to laugh at you to magically fix trauma, and that these people aren't just "crazy people", but deeply broken individuals in need of help, and for the first time in my life, the mental dissonance around mental health as a whole kinda started to fade for me. After that, I slowly started to see the show for what it was, an exploitation of the broken and the mentally ill in possibly the most dystopian way you could imagine.
So he ignored her boundaries, gas lit her when she complained about her boundary being trespassed, guilt tripped her into staying on the show, and then threw her out when he started to feel personly offended by her standing up for herself.
HE needs therapy. HE'S an abuser
He showed no empathy for her. Any psychologist knows that you cannot treat emotional trauma purely with logic. He just wanted to humiliate her in public. He's an awful person.
Such a good comment, I took a screenshot, and I will totally use it if I ever make a video on Dr phil, because no one could really say this better than you just did
@@Rose_Darkness__ I'm so sorry you had to go through that, especially at the hands of a therapist.
I hope you've been able to heal from those experiences 🤗❤️
in defense of Dr. Phil and as someone who went to a show of his (2008), his conversations go on for a few hours with these guests. It may not seem like it, but these are cleverly edited. The one I saw in person and what went of TV was almost two entirely different incidents. So I think the producers only put on what can be used as "good television". But I will say your comment stands with what we are shown.
@@redstarthunder12 interesting, thank you for your insight!
I feel terrible for her and I hope that she sees a REAL therapist. Not some TV personality who finds joy and money from insulting people
"I'm not into all this melodrama"
Self-awareness: zero
Oh he knows exactly what he’s doing. He’s just gaslighting her.
Maybe hes unaware he has a tv show
I think its a mata-ironic show
@@orbitfold XD
He's lying. Again.
Her apology about her emotional outburst is so sad because it shows she was never allowed or given a safe place to express her emotions at all. She’s afraid her emotions will offend others around her and so she allows herself to be an emotional punching bag because she feels she can take it. Just to save the audience and doctor Phil from feeling guilty about doing so. Such a gross up situation I’m glad you brought to my attention.
It's kind of traumatic to look back at Dr Phil content because I grew up with this garbage playing on tv all week at home. Our parents often used it to point out what we, the kids, did wrong. Dr Phil used his platform to belittle survivors while being an authority for parents to look to. He's had a terrible influence on way too many people.
Kudos to her, she remained calm and polite while he acted like a spoiled kid. Nothing she said was offensive and yet she apologized. I hope she gets all the help she needs from a real therapist.
According to one of her cousins in the comments, she has gone missing since the show
@@kneal9203 Really ? I hope she's ok :/
Right?? Dudes such a loser, brings people with severe problems on his show, berates them the whole time but as soon as they say something he disagrees with he pulls the plug entirely. What a complete and utter loser.
It’s surprising people get all puffed up about stuff like Ellen show having mistreatment issues, like do people really believe any form of a TV show doesn’t have that? The whole industry is built on that, I’m certain a few month as a host of any show and the power absolutely gets to your head
@@kneal9203 she may be avoiding her cousin to make sure her mother does not find her. And avoiding social media for obvious reasons. Baileys mother is an epic narc like Phil, but maybe even nastier. Bailey needs to avoid her mother unless she gets a very convincing apology
The way she says "Y'all can laugh at me I will be your laughing spectacle" and her voice is breaking and "Dr." Phil just humiliates her even more wow. He is a monster. I am kinda dissapointed
@@mentallyunstable1926 He does possess a doctorate degree in clinical psychology, so by that metric he is a real doctor. What he doesn't have, and hasn't had for years, is a license to practice therapy. Phil McGraw is not a therapist; he's a showman. His legal team will tell you as much, though the man himself would likely deny it with his dying breath.
@@kingalfred2014 you're a goddamn poet oh my god
@Katie P. I don't think it was revoked, but he just failed to renew it when he stopped practicing since he was doing TV instead.
it's hard for me to watch this
Dissapointed, or disgusted?
I've seen guests get upset over the audience's laughter many times on the show, and Phil gets mad EVERY time, saying "There laughing at the absurdity of the situation, not at you, so don't get sanctimonious with me".
The worst part about mr phil saying he does clinical work is that he has never been clinically licensed to practice therapy in the state of California, which is where his show is filmed and he never renewed his license in texas after it expired. He CANNOT legally practice clinical therapy
Which is probably why he just does it on a tv show
Telling a woman with a dissociative disorder that she lives in “fantasy land” is cruel and a (good) mental health provider would never say that
Phill hasn't been a licensed therapist for over a decade, so the egg is on YOUR face! Or something.
Even if he were just a bad mental health provider, his behavior here is straight up unethical. Honestly, his whole show is unethical.
But he did drop his license to avoid getting it taken away due to unethical behavior, so I suppose we shouldn't be surprised.
I beg to differ.
@@andyblanton6570 About? His show violates the ethical principles of Beneficence, Integrity, Justice and Respect for People's Rights and Dignity.
Re: Beneficence: Dr. Phil doesn't "strive to benefit those with whom [he] work[s] and take care to do no harm". "When conflicts occur among psychologists' obligations or concerns, they attempt to resolve these conflicts in a responsible fashion that avoids or minimizes harm. Because psychologists' scientific and professional judgments and actions may affect the lives of others, they are alert to and guard against personal, financial, social, organizational, or political factors that might lead to misuse of their influence." Dr. Phil humiliates people on television for the entertainment of his audience; any help they receive is tangential to that goal.
Re: Integrity: "Psychologists seek to promote accuracy, honesty, and truthfulness in the science, teaching, and practice of psychology. In these activities psychologists do not steal, cheat or engage in fraud, subterfuge, or intentional misrepresentation of fact. Psychologists strive to keep their promises and to avoid unwise or unclear commitments. In situations in which deception may be ethically justifiable to maximize benefits and minimize harm, psychologists have a serious obligation to consider the need for, the possible consequences of, and their responsibility to correct any resulting mistrust or other harmful effects that arise from the use of such techniques." Dr. Phil and/or his staff plausibly misled this woman about the presence of her biological mother.
Re: Justice: "Psychologists recognize that fairness and justice entitle all persons to access to and benefit from the contributions of psychology and to equal quality in the processes, procedures, and services being conducted by psychologists. Psychologists exercise reasonable judgment and take precautions to ensure that their potential biases, the boundaries of their competence, and the limitations of their expertise do not lead to or condone unjust practices." Dr. Phil was clearly biased about this woman, and he showed them repeatedly.
Re: Respect for People's Rights and Dignity: "Psychologists respect the dignity and worth of all people, and the rights of individuals to privacy, confidentiality, and self-determination. Psychologists are aware that special safeguards may be necessary to protect the rights and welfare of persons or communities whose vulnerabilities impair autonomous decision making." Dr. Phil brings people on TV to be berated about their issues. If he actually cared about their dignity he'd never do that, but he wants to make money.
I suspect you're not disagreeing in good faith, based on your lack of any attached points, so I won't be responding further. Everything in quotes was taken from the American Psychological Association's code of ethics, which you can learn more about here: www.apa.org/ethics/code.
Yeah!
"If you aren't happy, you're free to leave."
-Every cult leader on a crime show ever
Every person in an abusive relationship have heard that
@@nanda-re2yp well just leave then
@@numbdigger9552 Great solution Dr. ass ass, I wonder why more people haven't thought of that.
@@numbdigger9552 ever heard of Stockholm syndrome? people in cults are brainwashed into thinking that their cult is the best and they’re living their best lives. and people in mentally and physically abusive relationships are 9 times out of 10 being emotionally manipulated and have been gaslighted into thinking their partner loves them and if they leave their partner will harm themselves. there are also cases where the person feels like their partner will potentially harm them and they feel scared to leave
@@shaylanikole3049 Addionally cults and narcissists are very good at isolating people. In a abusive Relationship there might be childeren involved or the abuser has control over the finances.
Crazy how "Dr." Phil got so defensive and butthurt about that woman having a breakdown about being turned into a spectacle. Because he *knows* she's calling him out
This girl was such a threat to Phil's ego he had to get this 7'4"tower of a man to escort this petite young woman off
Dr. Phil playing the victim while telling someone not to play the victim
"I've had enough of your drama!" he said, dramatically
"Nobody tells me who to put on my show!" says the totally mentally healthy grown man to the mentally ill girl he brought on his show under false pretenses. He really thinks he has something to prove in this situation.
... after listing the traumatic events in which she *was* the victim
Look the good doctor clearly said he doesn't want any part in it. I for one take him at his word. Fuck my lying eyes.
He is such a manipulator, I take anyone liking his show as a yellow warning flag.
Hearing you call Bailey a “21-year-old survivor” without hesitation was very meaningful to this 24-year-old survivor.
That's what I was thinking the whole time. Bailey is a victim, not a problem to laugh at.
This shit always reminds me why i keep rewatching Kitchen Nightmares when i want over dramatic reality TV. A fucking chef has more empathy for people violating safety standards than this supposed "therapist"
I think it’s awful that he sent Bailey away and spoke to her mum instead, she was 21, not a child, it’s so disrespectful. It really reminds me of something that happened to me when I was offered a career change job (I’d gone from being a banking PA to this new career, working with animals), so when I got off the phone call with my new boss, really excited, my mum told me that before she spoke with me, my new boss had chatted about me to my mum for about twenty minutes, asking, because I’m quite a quiet person, if she thought I could hack it and she wasn’t sure if I understood how to pay tax… My excitement went instantly and I felt like I’d been slapped in the face! I wasn’t a kid, I was in my 30s and as well as having a full cv, I’d also been volunteering with a cat rescue for 3 years! My mum couldn’t believe this woman either, it was so disrespectful.
So I can totally understand why Bailey was upset by them bringing her mum along, and how Dr Phil silenced her, basically allowing her mum to speak for her. It’s just so wrong.
She offended him by pointing out the audience laughing at her.... while she was on the verge of tears. So offended that she must be removed from his sight... Who's entitled now?
It's so fucking disgusting
It points out the abject cruelty of his show, and that realization is horrifying to him.
@@Blueeyesthewarrior Right! He couldn't face that reality so he must have her removed from his sight.
@@Blueeyesthewarrior It's not horrifying to Phil, he knows damn well what he is doing. He does not want his audience out there to be horrified by what he is doing. He needs to keep making those millions. He does not want his audience to face reality, Phil the quack long ago already did. Only that matters to him now, how can I keep this show going how can I make more money.
And that is the case for all those shows, with a few basically blaming the people like Jerry Springer. Yeah it's their fault that they come on here and we abuse them.
He's always been entitled.
Saying he’s doing anything “clinically” is extremely upsetting. He doesn’t hold a license to treat or diagnose anyone. I went through similar trauma to this woman, and a similarly vulnerable stage after, although luckily I never had delusional thinking. I was paranoid and acted bizarre under stress, which is pretty normal considering what happened to me. I hope she’s ok now.
I did too, around her age. I think if anyone had treated me, in the aftermath, the way Phil treated Bailey, it would have destroyed me.
However she's doing now, she also has to deal with being recognized from this episode. Not getting support, but side eyes for being mean to this guy.
I too hope she's doing better. Hope you are too, Hanna. And commenter above me.
I do not believe any real doctor would broadcast their patients or sick patients sickness for the world to see as if it is was a freakshow. In youtube, Dr K, a harvard psychiatrist listened to his patients problems and focusing on giving them solutions so that it may helped his audience. That took at least one to two hours. I hoped most of phil are faked.
He has a legitimate degree, but he breaks so many ethics rules. It's disgraceful.
Here's a great article from Psychology Today regarding the ethics of media engagement by Psychologists. www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/naked-truth/201812/grand-rounds-dr-phil-can-psychologists-be-tv
@@philippschwarz4539 i thought his degree was outdated?
Dr. Phil: "You live in fantasy land. I'm going to mock you instead of helping you for cheap laughs."
Crowd: "woooo! Yeah, fuck helping that chick. We're just here to gawk at crazies!"
Also, that girl did not play the game Phil requires all his victims to play, and he could tell she might be a problem for him so he sent her away. Real "professional" behaviour there.
The thing that gets me about this whole situation is that in a normal therapy session, Dr Phil probably wouldn't and shouldn't have brought her mother in. Sure, it might help to bring her into the therapy sessions eventually. But if your client doesn't want to see someone, you aren't supposed to make that decision for them. And it can make things worse to force that. I think one of the reasons it's so weird and despicable that he got mad at her for not liking it is that if she doesn't want to see her mother, she shouldn't have to.
"I'm gonna shut this down right now. I ain't about 'spectacle' or 'melodrama,' that's why I have a popular TV show where I invite people who are struggling with mental health and then pick them apart in front of a live studio audience."
“Now go home after I degraded and humiliated you in front of millions of people.”
Right, like the first time I heard him say that I was like " . . . is this not television you're on? Is this not why you're here?"
I thought the exact same thing when he said that. He claims his show isn’t about spectacle and melodrama when it so clearly is. He was pissed off that she turned it back around on him and the audience and momentarily disempowered him and the narrative he was pushing.
imagine you go to therapy and your doctor is just like 'listen girl, i've had it with your drama😠 can you please just leave w/ those negative vibes already 😤'
I had a therapist once who referred to my symptoms as games, she literally told me “I’m not playing your [diagnosis] games”
I was scared away from therapy for years.
Dr. Phil does everything a real therapist isn't supposed to do lol, it makes me so mad that he pretends to care about helping his guests when he really only cares about putting on a show.
@@sourgreendolly7685 Unfortunately not all therapists are actually good at their job, they're supposed to know better than to fall in the same traps that lay people often do. Let's say you have someone who is very vocal and "dramatic" about the things they want, to the lay person they might dismiss it as being "melodramatic and manipulative" but a good therapist is supposed to see through that shit and figure out where it's coming from, for example maybe it comes from a traumatic history of being forced to be vocal to have any of your needs recognized. Dr. Phil doesn't even attempt to do any of that, he's just there to make a spectacle. 🙄
@@sourgreendolly7685 My friend asked me yesterday about therapy since he recently started going to it and because of my personal bad experiences and therapy that were similar to yours I told him to remember that people are flawed and just because that person has a degree in psychology does not mean they are more or less flawed than you. They simply have a degree in something that you can learn about yourself through them.
@@sourgreendolly7685 oh my god, what a piece of shit!
I was told that I was living in dream world (sound familiar? lmao) bc I said that I didn't want a career or achievements until that no longer means working a soulless job that just perpetuates our hyperconsumer capitalist hellscape and ruins our planet even further :-)
Cheers to getting the fuck away from incompetent therapists! 🥂
I wonder if she had said, "if I'm sick, why are they all laughing at me?" And how he would still justify himself in some sneaky way
I empathize so much with this poor woman, it's amazing how she was able to keep as calm as she was in this episode.
The fact he acted so offended when she said "I can be your spectical" when she's LITERALLY ON A TV SHOW MEANT FOR ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES
That’s why he got so angry because she was calling out the whole thing as a farce and performance not any kind of helpful experience
I was surprised she didn't respond with, "then why did you invite me on this show to publically mock me?"
I think the worst part is that the only way Phil's background in psych comes into play here is when he's weaponizing it to manipulate a 21-year-old survivor while triggering the f*ck out of her PTSD for the entertainment of his audience.
wow, I didnt see that till now. thing is "just entertainment" is a lie passed off by phil to get away with this legally.
@@davidtaylor142Some people do this
Usually Mr.Phil just disengages awkwardly or acts deeply offended
ah that poor girl at the beginning seemed so upset and genuinely hurt, she was never disrespectful to him and he was so stern for no reason
Cause if he wasn't the audience would end up sympathizing with her and realize how bad a person Phil is for trying to make bank off of someone's trauma. So he slapped it down and painted her as a delusional kid who didn't know any better.
@@PoggoMcDawggo yeah totally! I had never watched anything with him before and I'm surprised by how manipulative and unpleasant he comes across, I can't believe he has such a big audience
I remember watching that live and it made me feel so, so uneasy. She acting pretty rational for someone who was being put on the spot like she was.
@@eli3845 It's the late 20th/early 21st century equivalent of the Victorians going to Bedlam Hospital and poking the patients with a pointed stick. It's side-show freak entertainment without even the decency of a circus gives with giving the "freak" a paycheck.
Yeah that was really hard to watch :(
16:21 "This show is a joke. The people are laughing."
Such a potent summary.
It’s weird. A while back I used to work in a house where the mom always watched Dr Phil. I never put together why this show bothered me so much. Holy hell, this really cuts to that
i can’t believe that Dr. Phil stated all these traumatic triggering things that this girl went through in front of an audience like it was some grocery list and then he found that SHE offended him??? i hope that girl is doing better now :(
Something I didn’t see stated before but should be mentioned: as far as I can see in these clips, she’s calm, relatively polite, and never raises her voice and yet THIS is his reaction.
Did u see he said "friend" with Air quote gestures what does that even mean? Why did he do that without an inch of sympathy on his face. He said that in a sarcastic tone like it was nothing.
@@shitshow2376 Yeah. He did that implying he knows their entire relationship together pre-rãpe.
Apparently she is not. The Dr Phil's promise of offering additional help for the clients is just hogwash. Supposedly she is doing just as bad if not worse than before. (From another commenter who said they were the friend of Bailey's cousin)
Yeah, I've tried to go through with PTSD therapy for rape and abuse. It was incredibly difficult and I never went through with it because it hurts so bad to think about because you relive it. The closest i got to having a good therapist was one who decided to ease me into it with why I have a skin-picking compulsion and even that was too much because it's linked to other traumas because it evolved into a coping mechanism for everything, regardless of scale. You can't put all of someone's pain on blast all at once in front of an audience and then belittle them. This was painful to watch. Even though she was a horrid stalker, she's still a person and they literally tortured her
She wasn't being crazy enough so Dr. Phil got pissed
She was aware enough to see that she was being abused my the production team and him, not to throw big words but there is literally a power dynamic that “Dr.” Phil explicitly tried to make apparent to her.
Nah she was just the wrong kind of crazy
@@mccrme ... The kind that does what exactly?
@primms yeah I think that's exactly it. Even when she apologized, which she didn't need to he was still an ass. What a fucken bully.
@@joeybradley4352 The kind of “crazy” that is a treatable condition that needs to be respected and treated with care instead of abject humiliation (though let’s be honest, you would be hard pressed to find someone for whom being on Phil’s show was actively productive and healing)
"Cult" is really the perfect word to encapsulate this whole situation.
Imagine you divulging to your therapist all your sadness from trauma and they are the one that throws a tantrum
dr. phil doesn’t talk to his guests, he presents them to the audience
Roll up, roll up
Modern day human zoo. Despicable.
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@@rippspeck It's called a "Freak Show" and they've been around forever.
Strong 'Truman Show' vibes. Yikes.
Guest: As a child, I was regularly beaten and isolated from the other children, and in addition, I rarely had anything to eat.
Dr Phil: Yeah, yeah, I heard you the first time, but let me get this straight. You're unemployed?
"Wait, now you're fat? You need to get on my diet program!"
"Stop playing the victim and being so entitled"
Dr Phil: "You are not a dog"
Boomer: "Yes I am.... woof"
@@Tazzie1312 and I see you starting to wrinkle, try Robin’s cream. That’s why she has smooth skin. It’s definitely not her extensive plastic surgery.
Dr. Phil: "YOU may live in lala land but I DO NOT."
Werner Herzog: "I look into your eyes and I see no recognition, no kinship, just the cruel indifference of nature and maybe a half bored interest in food."
the fact he gets so mad when she points out the spectacle she really must have struck a nerve almost as if its the truth
"I'm not interested in your melodrama."
Sir. You make your living on melodrama.
Imagine going to your therapist and there’s a crowd there and the therapist just starts listing off traumatic events in your life in a very matter of fact way in front of like 100 people
+ millions more you can't even see. horrifying.
And the worst part is that he's too stupid to make the connection that "hey, MAYBE her problems now may have SOMETHING to do with her coping with all of that shit I just brought up? Like she's believing in this fantasy with this stranger because that's the one way she can pretend to have a positive relationship in her life."
But no, he just goes right back to "lolshutupyasillycrazy" like the assclown he is.
This guy is a fucking abuser. Lied to get her their in the first place, bluntly makes her relive her trauma, then scolds her when she has the audacity to push back against any of his bullshit.
@@ktownshutdown21 it’s traumatizing to even watch, honestly I can’t begin imagine how traumatic it was for her. No one should be treated like that especially for the sake of entertainment.
Imagine going to the dr Phil show and being surprised there’s an audience
@@La_br00tal_mija not my point at all. I was trying to point out how this is not how therapy works. People are naive or can’t afford real therapy and go to dr Phil for help when he’s just a tv personality and does more harm than good.
dr phil: “this is a safe place to talk about hard things”
dr phil: *attacks venerable young adult looking for guidance*
Not to mention that a therapy is in a private space, not with an audience judging and applauding you, as if you were some kind of attraction.
dr phil: parades her traumas on a literal whiteboard in front of millions
This shit constantly and consistently happens in the south and no one's batting an eye lol, the way Dr. Phil acts towards the people he brings on is exactly the way I was treated because I had ADHD, so imagine everyone else with an ACTUAL DISABILITY in the south, shit is not fun down here
@@spicynoodles2742 Bold of you to assume the goal of the show was/is ever therapy. He hasn't had a license for 15 years, has done no CE, and participants have to sign disclaimers that his suggestions are merely advice. Not to mention he's got a PhD, not a Psy. D. People who go for a PhD focus more on theory, experimental design, collating and interpreting data, and how best to present that data. If it's clinical practice a person wants,.they usually go for a Psy D. The Psy D puts a lot more focus on patient interactions and practical application of theories in order to treat patients.
A similar example is an MD vs an MD/PhD. Being.in an MD program, there is an enormous emphasis on examination skills, chasing down a diagnosis, and adminstering treatmenr. The last two years are almost entirely clinical. A friend of mine in a dual program sacrifices some of that clinical experience in favor of experimental design and everything else that comes with a focus on conducting research.
Not to minimize the amount of work it takes to get that PhD or "poo poo" their contributions, just saying I wouldn't be surprised if Dr. McGraw was behind the curve when it comes to clinical application. He spent most of his career on advising leagal teams in the first place.
@@theshanamaster Well, that sucks. Even in the county detox unit I was at least treated with some dignity and respect.
"you're not allowed to look behind the curtain" God what a fitting and true statement. I'm reminded of the episode where the guy who filmed bum fights came on dressed as Dr Phil just to make fun of him because what he does is morally no different and is instantly escorted out by security.
I feel like there is something deeply problematic about the idea of doing therapy in front of an audience.
"Dr." Phil is a monster. He preys on unhealthy people who expect he would help them. Instead, he turns them into a spectacle, appealing to people's schadenfreude and he publicizes so much sensitive info which should have remained private. If he were an actual psychologist, he would have been sued repeatedly for malpractice. However, because he's on TV, he has a huge team of lawyers to defend him and plausible deniability, which allows him to be essentially a serial abuser without consequences. I hope Bailey finds an actual therapist to help her escape her past.
Great use of schadenfreude
@Incel Kingdom Agreed. Definitely sounds like a narcissist, potentially even a sociopath.
There's a malevolent, almost biblical scapegoat-y vibe coming off this whole video (the parts we're shown anyway). Are all Dr. Phil's shows like this? Look at that girl's face. You can see her hurt and pain and fear - and at the same time there is zero sign of any human compassion or understanding from the "doctor." The audience here is being invited to condemn and to laugh at this "bad" person, they're being encouraged and enabled to do it, in fact - and not by some random but specifically by someone presented as a qualified authority figure. I actually feel nauseous having watched this. We think we're so enlightened these days, not feeding people to lions for entertainment anymore etc. but I dunno, man. And afterwards the audience gets to go home and feel good about themselves for not being a screwed up delusional stalker like that girl. Urrrrrrgh.
I always kinda just assumed it was a deal where you embarrass yourself on TV and Dr. Phil's show pays for you to get real help as part of you appearing. It's fucked up, but no more fucked up than the rest of the broken USA healthcare system.
It didn't start like this, but yes this is what the show is. It's a top shelf Jerry springer. It's daytime TV trash dressed in nice clothes.
This is my cousin, and I am trying to find her. She has been missing for over a year and this episode is the event that broke her. Words cannot express how worried I am for her, and how unprofessionally Dr. Phil & my aunt acted.
She has very bad schizophrenia, and her episodes were kept secret until basically this episode - her mother kept everything secret from the rest of the family.
I was the first to figure it out, and am still trying desperately to get her some real, loving help. Thank you, so fucking much. This brings tears to my eyes.
That is horrible. You should consider filing a lawsuit.
I am so sorry. I'm praying that she's ok and for a safe return. I would get in touch with the show and let them know what they did
Is there anything link or anything we can share to help? I’m not seeing anything about it.... the way he gaslights her is disgusting. I’m so sorry 💜
Has there been a missing persons report filed?
OmG! Did she have a job? Did you ask the? File a police report?
"that's very traumatic"
proceeds to show this to the entire audience, and then on the show in full
"i'm not into all this melodrama" phillip, your entire show is melodrama
Dr.Phil lives in the "fantasy land" of thinking his show is anything but creating a spectacle of his guests, so that others can gawk and laugh. He is just upset at being called out about it, upset that he and the audience are being confronted with the reality of what the show does.
Yuuup. Its why he turned into such a baby the moment she was preempting the response, cause the wrestling match he's slated to win doesn't pad his ego if the opponent tells the crowd that the fight is rigged and its all an act. How else is he supposed to feel superior about his totally not a carnival sideshow and his role as the barker profiting off the 'freaks'?
He’s a tool who can’t take real criticism the second someone said exactly what he does he lot his shit and shit his little pants
yeah this is actually a pretty good view on what happens in his head psychologically. lol he was threatened and he reacted. hey - dr. phil, maybe you should interview yourself????
And you know what, maybe it's fine for him to create a spectacle out of his guests for the entertainment of others, but doing so as a supposed " trained professional" and to market that as helping his guests deal with their issues and remedy them? That's just despicable
He thinks he’s so rational and kind by snarking and RANTING at all these mentally ill people with his “witty” remarks. So when someone calls out the messed up nature of his show he turns into a big crybaby. Pathetic.
Her quiet “that’s hurtful” after he made the fantasyland comment and the audience starts clapping is so sad
I honestly just wanted to hug her. I know she has done objectively terrible things but
She still deserves compassion and help.
It was heartbreaking, this girl doesn’t need shame , she needs help and compassion. She’s suffering.
Maybe Dr Phil needs a competitor. A more compassionate therapist who doesn’t gaslight people.
@@samandchelsea1754 no, that’s the capitalist brainwashing talking.
@@samandchelsea1754 any therapist with compassion would never agree to do a therapy session on national tv, regardless of any perceived "good intentions". it's not just the laughter that makes this into spectacle, it's literally the whole damn structure of "watching a real person who is psychologically suffering" being filmed and then distributed as a piece of media. the solution to this type of tv is absolutely not to make more of it, it's to not have it at all.
Obviously, if Bailey leaves the set she forfeits her contract with this horrible so-called show, and, she won't get paid. The fraud, Phillip C. McGraw had exacerbated Bailey's trauma. How horrible indeed
Thank you for this video, Big Joel. I was listening to the audiobook of Sinead O'Connor's memoir. After listening to what she said about him, I went down this rabbit hole and learned how dangerous Dr. Phil is.
Saying “you live in a fantasy land” to a person who is schizophrenic (or delusional) won’t do anything, it is just plain mean.
Yeah. Like no shit they’re ‘delusional’. That’s why they’re schizophrenic. I wish people like dr Phil weren’t rubbing it in as if the person didn’t already know. It’s so redundant and it only makes things worse ):
He said that for an applause. Its not about bailey.
I suffer from Paranoia personality disorder it's not the we leave in a fantasy land paranoid people have irrational thought process like you see a guy in all black and think okay of it, people like me see them and think they are going to kill us, there is so much stigma against people like me people treat having Paranoia automatically makes you a bad person
Or itll make their delusions worse because they think they're in reality. They draw false interpertations.
@@GarlicGrinder9 telling a delusional that they are delusional will get them angry at you, to help delusional people get better you have to have them trust and feel safe around you
His pseudoscience he calls "therapy" is horrible for mental health awareness. He really never handles any situation correctly where someone may need real help. Kind of makes me angry. He doesnt deserve any recognition for this "practice", hes harming more than just the people going only the show that consent. Its hurt the real people who are watching this and suffering and how the public may treat mental health because of this.
Also thank you big joel for pointing out the manipulative behavior because this may help people notice this form of psychialogical warfare he is causing. This "therapist" doesnt deserve a license is he does shockingly have one.
@@ashh.9637 Well, he doesn’t even have a licence is the thing
@@literallygaston2489
Yeah, didn't he lose it?
@@literallygaston2489 wait fr! Thats even worse T_T but im honestly not surprised. Just glad the license distributors are upholding certain standards.
Perhaps the new name for his show could be... -Dr.- Fail
I'm pretty ashamed to say that because of the way this was presented to me I was pretty much on Phil's side, so I thank you Mr. Joel for getting me to use my fucking braincells. This poor lady needs some help, not to get laughed at. I hope she's at least mildly alright now.
So I now have a bachelor's in psychology but I'll never forget one of my first psychology classes where we were shown a show like this where a girl has a legitimate phobia of pickles. They chased this poor girl around the stage with a bunch of pickles while everyone laughed. These shows are abhorrent and I'm glad people are realising that now that mental health awareness has increased. What really got to me watching this video making me so angry and upset is how he just glazed over her traumatic experiences. I've experienced a lot of trauma and usually list them in a way that I'm emotionally distant from because if I focus on an event by itself, it's really difficult and it just sets off my PTSD and just fucks me up. For someone else making a list and sharing all my trauma with the world without me having control over the situation is awful for my mental wellbeing. Not to mention this girl has experienced a lot of sexual violence in her life which already makes you try to have some form of control over something, which could be harmful, and for him to take that away from her and treating her like a dumb child is just so disgusting.
GET HIM BIG JOEL!
ohhh ily
In hindsight, I should have expected to see you here
Whoo!
Hey, it's you!! How's the cow doing?
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The irony of Dr. Phil saying he doesn't live in a fantasy land when this is his show
He literally has fabricated his own ultimate fantasy land oh my god you're fucking right
THE FUCKING RANCH
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@@torikelso4734 the one with the ram, or other one i have yet to know?
If someone decided to bring my abusers onto any platform, i would sue. It's NOT clinical work.
I believe this was the episode that made me realise years ago that Dr. Phil doesn't actually want to solve people's problems and just uses them to make money off of his show. I don't remember much of the episode, but I do remember feeling very bad for Bailey because Phil was being rude to her and saying things my family would say to me (aka gaslighting, manipulation or trying to have any power over me).
...This is me engaging with the video and wishing to see more Big Joel Dr. Phil content
Always!!!!
Same here
ditto
me too
This is me further engaging
"I'm not into all this melodrama..." I about died when Phil said that. Dude, have you not seen your show?
Never trust anyone who says they hate melodrama. You will never lose money betting they are the center of it.
Translation: _I'm not into you making my audience uncomfortable by correctly pointing out that my show makes a spectacle out of the people I bring on instead of actually getting them real help._
For some reason I liked Dr. Phil at the beginning. I liked the "cutting through the crap" thing that I believed was helpful to get to the healing part. That didn't last long for me though. It was clear that he was a bully, a joke, a terrible therapist. What we witness in this video is outright abuse, and it has no place in therapy. Thank you for your excellent analysis as always.
Seeing this guy on TV is sickening. As someone with DID and other severe conditions, I have met my fair share of people who claim they want to help when all they want is a power trip. And then they blame the patient for not wanting to get better when their methods don’t give the desired effect.
Something worse is that this experience might have scared Bailey from ever talking to a REAL therapist in the future. So she might not ever get the help she needs.
That's so sad
Holy Sheet, that was a terrible event Bailey faced. Damned to Dr. Phil, Damned.
yo the cryptic pregnancy thing is actually a real mental condition with physical effects on the body. The brain CAN trick itself into creating the symptoms of pregnancy without actually being pregnant. Your stomach swells, periods stop, morning sickness occurs, etc. The fact that he spent the entire time deriding these women for a mental illness instead of treating it is straight-up nuts, I don't know how anyone can be that cold.
It’s believed that Queen Mary I suffered a phantom pregnancy, same symptoms as you said, she wanted a child so badly her brain convinced herself she was, it’s terrifying what your brain can convince the rest of your body to react to 🤭
Yeah, or there's something wrong in the patient's reproductive system. A family friend had undiagnosed ovarian cancer. At first, the pain was diagnosed as psychosomatic (aka "it's all in your head"). Eventually, she developed pregnancy-like symptoms: swollen belly, hot flashes, morning sickness (because the cancer had spread to her stomach)... Again, the doctors were too fucking busy to disprove her "delusions" to notice the malignant tumor growing inside her. By the time doctors finally caught on, she had only a few months left to live.
There's no way to describe the absolute contempt I feel for the doctors and nurses who murdered a 27 year old woman because they were too fucking blind to see what was happening, and just called their victim delusional instead.
yeah like Will's ex wife from glee
Also known as a ''Phantom pregnancy'' this 'Dr' Phil is literal human garbage.
This reminds me of the time when he brung a woman on to his show that believed she was in a relationship with Tyler Perry (film director) the woman truly believed she was in a relationship with him, you could tell it in her eyes that she was in love with him; the woman was clearly mentally ill and needed help instead he told her she was a liar the whole time and questioned her sanity the whole time in a condescending tone. Of course it ended up being a catfish the whole time but he was just rude & nasty to a woman who was clearly suffering. I also believe the woman's husband might have died so that triggered what she was going through and he knew that yet he humiliated her the entire time oh and his audience clapped at every point he thought he was making making the woman feel even worse.
Ugh. This was rough watching. My dad used almost all the 'techniques' Phil used on Baily whenever I had a mental breakdown and it only helped me in avoiding problems and ignoring my feelings, and now im in my 20s and had to pull my damn self together, dealing with all my trauma alone and trying to make myself into a decent adult.