I have the RX10IV and have been wondering if I upgrade to the a1, would it make much of a difference. I then look at my prints hanging on the wall with the RX10IV and am still amazed at the tac sharp images it produces and then realize just how much I love this camera. I love high quality bridge cameras and the convenience of not having to carry around multiple lenses.
What an excellent video. I purchased my RX10 I v about 6 weeks ago and slowly getting my head around it. This camera seems to be able to cope with anything. Really for its price, it is a bargain as your video demonstrates plus not having to carry around additional lenses. It really is more than a Bridge Camera. Thank you
Thanks so much! Yes, even though all these years have passed using the RX10 does not disappoint. Took it on a recent trip and I don't regret it at all. Glad you are enjoying yous.
Hi from Germany. I really like the comparison and as for the difference in the price range, I think that the RX10 really can stand up for itself. I could hardly tell a difference in the photos, which means that they are fairly close to each other. At least for my eyes... Keep up with the good work!
Have had my Rx-10 iV for several years now and the used price is still the same as I paid for my new one. That's because, in this space, there isn't a better camera.
Great video!! You manage to resume in 10 minutes all important aspects we all wanted to know. I have a full frame camera and I am looking for a capable, more compact, travel camera. I am still undecided between the RX10 mIV and an APS-C like the Sony 6700. It is hard to decide because no matter how much I try, I can't match the all-in-one features of the RX10 in that compact size with another system. I love this kind of videos that show us how sometimes we lose ourselves in specs and then we can't tell the difference in the results between VERY different kind of cameras without pixel peeping. Thank you!
Hey, thanks so much for you comment! I'm glad the video could help you decide on what to get. You are right the rX10 is such a good all in one solution its seriously hard to beat!
I dream of an RX10 V with better stabilisation in all modes, 10bit 4:2:2 for recording in slog3, H.265 4k120p. 6k downsampled 4k Updated AF. This would be a dream camera!
Hi! Thank you for the comparison between the two categories of machines. The most important thing is that after watching the video, we will know exactly what is the right choice for our needs and financial possibilities, and we can do it without any financial risk with your help!
This and your other recent RX10 video have sealed the deal for me. I am defo getting a bridge camera., I like birding and want to travel this year. How do the Nikon and Panasonic offerings compare to the RX10?
i am looking to upgrade from a dslr + 15-500 sigma and a lumix fz300 to a mirrorless ystem or the rx10iv. i think the DR issue is easily solvable by stopping down the exposure, my only concern remains the bokeh. i will be using he camera for birding, most of the time at 600mm, so might not need the full frame or aps-c sensor. I also know that the portability will be an issue, the compact bridge vs a zoom 600lens will always be a winner. thanks for the video, very useful!
I thought photos so close not really significant; on the mixed light background video was surprising just how blown out everything was. Not clear why, seemed almost too much but the 1 a clear winner..even exposure aside. Stab was close though and likely not noticeable unless compared side by side. Great video! For even more fun…add the Ax53 into the mix!
Try to do this test again when Sony finishes making the RX10V. But another reason why Sony hasn't made the RX10V yet is how are they going to make it better
Impressive. The Sony RX 10 IV gives Amazing performance for the money ! Com’on MK V soon with ability to zoom with afc and manual focus and other little tweaks ! Thanks !😀
Very nice content. Would like to to know how would this do for bird photography. I am a Birder and want to get a good camera but don't want the hassle of carrying to much gear
Great review, thank you for this. Is it possible that the lens quality of the RX10 vs the Tamron you were using to test the Alpha One skewed the results? Also, do you think the differences would be any more noticeable if used for wildlife photography, specifically birding as far as the tracking & eye focus capabilities of the Alpha One (hoping the answer is yes or I wasted my money!)
Hi there. I assume you have the Alpha One and are concerned you overspent. But I honestly wouldn't worry about that. I just wanted to point out in the video that for everyday shooting, its remarkable how capable the Rx10 Mark 4 is, even more than just being a superzoom camera. First of all, the Alpha One is a 50MP camera, so you will be able to print larger pictures, or crop into your photos for greater detail. than the Mark 4. The stabilization is far superior as well in the Alpha One. There is 8k, 4k120 slow motion and many more video codecs and advanced features. If, however you are a very casual shooter than the camera may be more than you really need. It really depends on what you are using it for. The Tamron Lens is actually a high quality lens. I have compared it against other Sony glass, and have found that its really sharp and light, just lacking on some buttons on the lens itself. To answer your question, yes, the AF on the Alpha One has been greatly upgraded over the Mark4 and for wildlife you can use lenses greater than 600mm to get in close, and as I mentioned you can crop into your photos to get more detail due to the larger sensor and higher MP count. I think the Mark 4 is well suited for travel photography and for the casual shooter who does not want to deal with multiple lenses. Thanks for your comment. Much appreciated!
There is some little loss in detail and the bokeh difference - but to compare it with A1, the RX10iv is pro enough as well as satisfying to most users. Let alone the price between these two cameras and the portability aspect.Thank you sir, but i’m waiting for RX10V. I’m starting to appreciate on the zoom capability in camera with cheaper price yet not sacrificing the image quality. This camera might be all in one solution for hybrid shooter like me.
Thank you for your comment. I agree with your assessment with the Alpha One comparison. I understand your reason for waiting for the RX10V. In staying in touch with the insiders and the rumor forums, there are no leaks or timetable for a successor. I fear it may be a long wait due to the chip shortage and Sony may be focusing on their full frame models instead. But this is something we cannot predict.
With my RX10iv I make sure to use the Movie and Cinema picture profiles for video work. They tame down the burned-out highlights and lighten the black shadows. Cinema 1 is my favorite for reducing contrast on sunny days. I use the Movie profile on overcast days.
The biggest difference I see between bridge vs larger sensor cameras is yes, the subject separation but also... the dynamic range. Bridge cameras, even the RX10 with all its sharpness, just seem flatter to me and nowhere near as vibrant. In my opinion the best compromise is to go just a bit bigger in sensor size with the micro four thirds ecosystem... the pictures look amazing, have good subject separation (not as good as full frame), and tiny cheaper lenses which are very travel-friendly. I'd recommend anyone considering a start in photography to give the cameras from Panasonic (Lumix) and OM-Systems a chance.
OM-1 with 2 lenses to cover the Sony range will set you back almost $4000. I'm grappling with the choice for a trip to Svalbard, Norway looking for polar bears...
Absolutely shocked by this. I have an Ar7 II and have been trying to figure out if I want to downsize or not. Have you done a comparison to the smaller rx100's at all? Also, do you happen to know if Sony has the rx10 V on the horizon at all? If I decided to go in this direction and that's around the corner, I would probably be a little upset had I decided to go with the IV. Thanks for this comparison! Just what I was looking for!!!
Hey there! To answer your questions, while I have not done a direct comparison with the RX100VII, I can tell you that actually am working on a few videos which will be looking deeply into that camera and so far, it looks very impressive indeed. There are currently no rumors at all suggesting a release of the Mark 5. There was one about a year ago which I posted but unfortunately it looks like it was only that, a rumor. I can't tell you whether to get the Mark 4 or not, but if you do, I think you'll be happy with it even if a Mark 5 is to be released at some point. But hey, thats the nature of technology, there are always upgrades, you have to get what you need now.. Thanks for your comment!
I own both, and in my experience the RX10 is worth it's weight, not just for the extra zoom but also all the extra buttons and general feel of the camera. When I just take the RX100 (mk6) I actually resent the relatively light weight and size, because it's still a chunk of heavy and delicate camera and I find I'd rather just use my phone. Basically the 100 is competing with my phone as a point and shoot, whereas the 10 is my 'real camera' and I find I just put more effort and fun into the photography, which gives better results. In late summer of 2023 I took the 100 on a hiking trip through Greece (Menalon Trail) and often wished I'd brought the 10, despite it's greater weight and bulk. Many of my shots with the 100 were hurried and somewhat careless, and frankly I think my phone was just as good and quicker to use. But whenever I take the 10 I start looking at the light, the angles, really thinking of composition, and actually enjoying the hobby of photography again. I should also point out the 100 is delicate. Once dropped mine off the bed onto a wooden floor, about 1.5ft drop, and had to send it to be repaired as the zoom and lens covered were damaged. The 10 is weather-proof and a lot tougher.
You could certainly use both but I would say the Alpha One with a portrait lens (85mm focal length) and fast aperture would be a better option for portraits. I think for nature, especially wildlife or animals in the distance the RX10 with its 600mm lens and relatively light overall package has the advantage. To get a lens that long on a full frame camera is very big and very heavy.
The HDR comparison proves what I've found with my RX10... ah, you corrected, well done. Yeah, the RX does tend to over-expose. I pretty much leave it on one notch under all the time, and find the results more pleasing.
Yes, I have found that most Sony cameras (other brands too) tend to auto expose too bright (maybe because they think the image looks better that way)? I don't know but its always better in my view to be a little underexposed than over ! Thanks for your comment
Thanks for this comparison, it is very well made.The dynamic range of the RX10 looks quite terrible though in this example. Sorry to ask, but are you sure the metering mode was set to global? It seems it's set to "center", that would explain the burned out values. I also have the RX10 and the A6400 (APS-C). I shot a few test pictures. The dynamic range was nearly identical in a similar scene (grass, sunlight and tree shadows). The Alpha One has an even bigger sensor (1,5x bigger than APS-C), but the difference would be extremely high if the test is valid. Surprising.
Hey there. The metering was set to default which I believe is center yes. I never usually mess with it as I find the camera does the best job at default setting. Not sure where I see that the RX10 dynamic range looks "terrible." Have not gotten any feedback to that effect. Clearly in some tough scenes, yes it struggles but it is a small sensor and the full frame sensor is going to do better. Now your A6400 is a much bigger APS-C sensor than the Mark 4 so right there, there is smaller difference in the two cameras that you compared. I thought many scenes they looked very close and in some scenes the differences was obvious but I appreciate your feedback!
@@techtoremember8096 Thanks for replying! I apologize for my imperfect english. According to my experience, the RX10 auto-exposure is usually okay, that is why I am surprised by the overexposed picture at 5'58" . What I intended to convey is that I took several shots in the garden under similar lighting, and they didn't result in such extreme brightness (although slightly overexposed). That is why I was questioning the exposure metering mode (since you were in the center, in the shadow, that could have been the reason, as you being the reference value). Also, when testing, the RX10 exposure was almost identical to the A6400 although its 2 times bigger sensor. But maybe the AlphaOne outperforms even the A6400 by far. Anyway, thanks for your videos. Please keep up the good work :)
Hi there. Thank you for clarifying. Your English is great by the way! That's a very good observation you made at 5:58" I went back to look at that scene and yes my face is very overexposed. I think what happened there is that my face really was not the focus of the scene. It is very small in the frame and the camera really was exposing for the entire scene and hence this is why my face was burnt out. Also, if there was face detection the camera may have noticed the face and exposed properly but it did not work out that way. The camera was just left on a tripod and no one was operating the camera. But you are right, that scene did not look great at all. I think the camera was basically just fooled there. I appreciate your comment on my videos and your support and please comment any time! Regards.
@@techtoremember8096 Always a pleasure to watch your videos, looking forward to the next one! There's this new Panasonic G9 II, could be a nice subject by the way. Anyway, the photo science is not trivial. Some slight changes in weather conditions, air density, lighting, can change it all as you surely know. I have the Nikon P1000 too, and ran some comparisons with the RX10 (you made a nice video about them by the way). Although the sensor is half the size, the P1000 managed to produce sometimes sharper pictures at 600mm. This was unexpected.
I recently replaced my Sony a6400 with a canon sx70 hs. So far I'm pretty happy with the Canon. However in a year or 2, I might consider purchasing the Sony RX10 IV. Mainly for the better auto focus.
I have a RX10m4. it's an Animal of a camera. Besides the 1" sensor my only complaint is it's colours. Everyone talks about colour science but I play around in post. I think Sony will not update this camera because it will cut into their existing line up. Don't won't to harm your revenue!!
@@techtoremember8096 when u mentioned rx10iv still have the older color science, is that actually better? I don’t have any idea of what color science is but each camera / lens tend to have their own color rendition…
Hi there. Each new camera model, camera tweaks their colors. They have actually somewhat of a bad reputation in some circles as some folks think Sonys greens and/or skin tones leave something to be desired. So hopefully in the next model they will address this and make some subtle improvements!
I'd like to see more examples of stills in lower light/higher-ISO, as even a phone can deliver good results when there's plenty of light. That said, Bruce Barnbaum (author of highly-recommended books including The Art of Photography and The Essence of Photography) shoots medium-format film for B&W but (the last I heard) uses an RX10 (I'm not sure which gen) for color work. Check out his work--"IQ" doesn't seem to be an issue...
Great point. I did include a few low light scenes and the difference while obvious, is not dramatic in my opinion. This is subjective, so depending on how particular you are the difference might seem big to some and not so big to others. Clearly if a good deal of your shooting is going to be in low light then the RX10IV's becomes a less compelling choice.
@@techtoremember8096 Thanks. Well, I'll find out about low light soon enough, as I just ordered an RX10 iv as a possible travel option. I may well still take my Lumix G9M2 12-800mm EFL kit, but I expect the RX will be the more practical choice for many situations. Also, using ILCs in inclement weather (where I get a lot of great shots) is problematic, as it's a really terrible idea to try to change lenses in rain, or even high humidity, so if DxO DeepPRIME XD2s can clean up high-ISO RX RAW files, there's one problem solved. I just wish bridge cameras were more popular, as they really do represent the best option for the vast majority of photographers at any level (but too many people buy into the marketing hype that bigger is better).
Hola, excelente vídeo, yo estoy interesado en adquirir la rx10, me parece una excelente opción, me interesa más por sus prestaciones en fotografía, mi trabajo va más dirigido a la fotografía artística sobre todo en blanco y negro, me gustaría conocer tu opinión sobre esto. Gracias
Hello my friend. I believe you are asking about black and white photography and the RX10 would do fine converting the images into black and white. Im sure you would be happy with the results. Thank you for your comment
I'm 69 years old. My bad back plus arthritis in my back and hands forced me to sell my full frame outfit. I got this Sony and am still shooting away. As far as its deficiencies are concerned, well, that's what I'm here for.
Basically it comes down to this... the cost of an A1 setup is four (could be five) times the cost of an RX10 IV. So, do I get four to five times better image (and video) quality from an A1, and your comparison and analysis says... no. Now obviously there will be situations where the A1 would be the better choice of camera but overall the RX10 will produce suitable (comparable) images. BTW I own neither camera but have been looking at the RX10 and the A1. I'm holding back to see if Sony brings out the 'V' edition of the RX10.
You are exactly right. On top of that there is the convenience of having an “all in one “ solution with a lens that covers such a wide range. The difference in quality was certainly less than I thought it would be. Thanks very much for your comment. Just for your info, there is a lot of speculation on the new Sony cameras for 2022 but the RX 10 mark 5 is not on that list. But. Who knows
Yes................ I personally get 5x better pictures using the A7r IV which is $3k cheaper than the A1 over the RX10IV. Don't get me wrong if you can FULLY frame your subject the RX10 is great. It's when you need to crop in where it becomes problematic as you really just can't, it's like the lens and sensor are maxed out. I just sold my RX10IV today as I knew I cold never go back. Also the Vignetting issue is a Huge issue for me in shooting birds with a sky background.......it's horrible.
Funny.....This video just popped up in my feed. I just sold my RX10IV today. I picked up a A1 for $2k off a couple weeks ago. The RX10 is a great camera but it just can't compete with any newer Sony mirrorless camera for birding.
Actually, it might feel like 14 years ago but the Rx 10 mk 4 was introduced in 2017, only 3 years prior to the A1. The second half of the video discusses extensively the basis for the comparison and what the purpose is. Thanks
@@techtoremember8096 3 years camera translated into actual years is 14 years. Dam i wish they would bring on the mark 5. I am dying for 1inch or APSC, fast read out, 10 bit 4k60 video, unlimited record time camera.
Fantastic video ! thank you for sharing!
Not a problem ! Thanks for the comment !
I have the RX10IV and have been wondering if I upgrade to the a1, would it make much of a difference. I then look at my prints hanging on the wall with the RX10IV and am still amazed at the tac sharp images it produces and then realize just how much I love this camera.
I love high quality bridge cameras and the convenience of not having to carry around multiple lenses.
Totally agree ! Thanks for watching
Sir do you have an Instagram I could check out I would love to see your photos I'm obsessed with my Sauny
@@MrBillkaz sorry, I do not use Instagram
@@gregsilver no worries brother
I agree. I use rx10 for street photography
What an excellent video. I purchased my RX10 I v about 6 weeks ago and slowly getting my head around it. This camera seems to be able to cope with anything. Really for its price, it is a bargain as your video demonstrates plus not having to carry around additional lenses. It really is more than a Bridge Camera. Thank you
Thanks so much! Yes, even though all these years have passed using the RX10 does not disappoint. Took it on a recent trip and I don't regret it at all. Glad you are enjoying yous.
Hi from Germany.
I really like the comparison and as for the difference in the price range, I think that the RX10 really can stand up for itself. I could hardly tell a difference in the photos, which means that they are fairly close to each other. At least for my eyes... Keep up with the good work!
Hi! Yes I was surprised how close they really were. The RX10 is a great camera Thank you for your comment !
Have had my Rx-10 iV for several years now and the used price is still the same as I paid for my new one. That's because, in this space, there isn't a better camera.
You are absolutely right. It is in a unique space. Thanks for your comment
Wir warten alle sehr auf die "V" mit mehr Zoom und Klappmonitor für Hochformat.
One of the best RUclipsrs out there
Thank you !!
What a great review. Peter Griffin came on point. Ordered the RX10iv just yesterday, seems to be the right decission.
Great to hear ! But what’s Peter Griffins role in this???
Would love to see a comprehensive video on how the rx10 of holds up in 2024. I’m right on the fence of getting one.
I can tell you this -it still holds up great !
@@techtoremember8096 thanks!
The RX10 has a classic digital look to it reminds me of the Disney channel in the 2000s very clean and sharp
Great video!! You manage to resume in 10 minutes all important aspects we all wanted to know. I have a full frame camera and I am looking for a capable, more compact, travel camera. I am still undecided between the RX10 mIV and an APS-C like the Sony 6700. It is hard to decide because no matter how much I try, I can't match the all-in-one features of the RX10 in that compact size with another system. I love this kind of videos that show us how sometimes we lose ourselves in specs and then we can't tell the difference in the results between VERY different kind of cameras without pixel peeping. Thank you!
Hey, thanks so much for you comment! I'm glad the video could help you decide on what to get. You are right the rX10 is such a good all in one solution its seriously hard to beat!
I dream of an RX10 V with better stabilisation in all modes, 10bit 4:2:2 for recording in slog3, H.265 4k120p. 6k downsampled 4k Updated AF. This would be a dream camera!
Maybe one day ! Thanks for the comment
Incredible comparison! Those WWII-Pretending models looked really hot with the RX10 IV.
Thank you!!
finally the video I've been waiting for!!🥳
Great ! I hope it helped !
Hi! Thank you for the comparison between the two categories of machines. The most important thing is that after watching the video, we will know exactly what is the right choice for our needs and financial possibilities, and we can do it without any financial risk with your help!
I’m so glad the video helped you come to your decision thanks for your comment !
Great comparison. Thank you.
This and your other recent RX10 video have sealed the deal for me. I am defo getting a bridge camera., I like birding and want to travel this year. How do the Nikon and Panasonic offerings compare to the RX10?
Glad it was helpful. Actually , if you stay tuned I’m working on a comparison video of the Nikon and Sony which should answer your question !
I went from the pansomic fz1000 to the rx 10 m 4 and it was, is a night and day difference … the mark 4 is far more superior in IQ AF FPS
I totally agree !
A battle well fought by the mk IV!🙌🏼
Haha !!! Yes. No black eyes !!
Nice - Can you do some heavy cropping to compare?
i am looking to upgrade from a dslr + 15-500 sigma and a lumix fz300 to a mirrorless ystem or the rx10iv. i think the DR issue is easily solvable by stopping down the exposure, my only concern remains the bokeh. i will be using he camera for birding, most of the time at 600mm, so might not need the full frame or aps-c sensor. I also know that the portability will be an issue, the compact bridge vs a zoom 600lens will always be a winner. thanks for the video, very useful!
I thought photos so close not really significant; on the mixed light background video was surprising just how blown out everything was. Not clear why, seemed almost too much but the 1 a clear winner..even exposure aside. Stab was close though and likely not noticeable unless compared side by side. Great video! For even more fun…add the Ax53 into the mix!
Haha Wow the 53 would really complicate things Thanks for the comment !
Try to do this test again when Sony finishes making the RX10V.
But another reason why Sony hasn't made the RX10V yet is how are they going to make it better
Can you please share a link or the name of the tripods you are using?
Hi Nice comparison! Just a doubt- were all these images JPEG straight out of camera at Standard profile? or both were RAW edit when compared?
Hi. They were JPEGs straight out of the camera. Great question. Thanks for watching !
Thank you for the comparison of these two. Do you maybe know if the rx10 has manual focus mode with focus peaking?
Hello there. Yes it does !
@@techtoremember8096 thank you
Impressive. The Sony RX 10 IV gives Amazing performance for the money ! Com’on MK V soon with ability to zoom with afc and manual focus and other little tweaks ! Thanks !😀
Haha. Yes ! Let’s hope. Thanks for your comment
Very nice content. Would like to to know how would this do for bird photography. I am a Birder and want to get a good camera but don't want the hassle of carrying to much gear
Thank you for your comment. The Rx 10 mk 4 would be great for birding as would the Nikon p1000. Please check my review on that camera as well.
The mark 4 has beeem a dream of an upgrade from my first camera which was a Panasonic fz1000
Great review, thank you for this. Is it possible that the lens quality of the RX10 vs the Tamron you were using to test the Alpha One skewed the results? Also, do you think the differences would be any more noticeable if used for wildlife photography, specifically birding as far as the tracking & eye focus capabilities of the Alpha One (hoping the answer is yes or I wasted my money!)
Hi there. I assume you have the Alpha One and are concerned you overspent. But I honestly wouldn't worry about that. I just wanted to point out in the video that for everyday shooting, its remarkable how capable the Rx10 Mark 4 is, even more than just being a superzoom camera. First of all, the Alpha One is a 50MP camera, so you will be able to print larger pictures, or crop into your photos for greater detail. than the Mark 4. The stabilization is far superior as well in the Alpha One. There is 8k, 4k120 slow motion and many more video codecs and advanced features. If, however you are a very casual shooter than the camera may be more than you really need. It really depends on what you are using it for. The Tamron Lens is actually a high quality lens. I have compared it against other Sony glass, and have found that its really sharp and light, just lacking on some buttons on the lens itself. To answer your question, yes, the AF on the Alpha One has been greatly upgraded over the Mark4 and for wildlife you can use lenses greater than 600mm to get in close, and as I mentioned you can crop into your photos to get more detail due to the larger sensor and higher MP count. I think the Mark 4 is well suited for travel photography and for the casual shooter who does not want to deal with multiple lenses. Thanks for your comment. Much appreciated!
@@techtoremember8096 Actually, for tracking focus and 24 frames per second I think the RX10 is actually superior...
There is some little loss in detail and the bokeh difference - but to compare it with A1, the RX10iv is pro enough as well as satisfying to most users. Let alone the price between these two cameras and the portability aspect.Thank you sir, but i’m waiting for RX10V. I’m starting to appreciate on the zoom capability in camera with cheaper price yet not sacrificing the image quality. This camera might be all in one solution for hybrid shooter like me.
Thank you for your comment. I agree with your assessment with
the Alpha One comparison. I understand your reason for waiting for the RX10V. In staying in touch with the insiders and the rumor forums, there are no leaks or timetable for a successor. I fear it may be a long wait due to the chip shortage and Sony may be focusing on their full frame models instead. But this is something we cannot predict.
@@techtoremember8096 thank you for the input sir.
Agree sir
@@techtoremember8096 I'm interested and believe that we'll never see the next Sony "V" version...
With my RX10iv I make sure to use the Movie and Cinema picture profiles for video work. They tame down the burned-out highlights and lighten the black shadows. Cinema 1 is my favorite for reducing contrast on sunny days. I use the Movie profile on overcast days.
Good tip!
The biggest difference I see between bridge vs larger sensor cameras is yes, the subject separation but also... the dynamic range. Bridge cameras, even the RX10 with all its sharpness, just seem flatter to me and nowhere near as vibrant. In my opinion the best compromise is to go just a bit bigger in sensor size with the micro four thirds ecosystem... the pictures look amazing, have good subject separation (not as good as full frame), and tiny cheaper lenses which are very travel-friendly. I'd recommend anyone considering a start in photography to give the cameras from Panasonic (Lumix) and OM-Systems a chance.
OM-1 with 2 lenses to cover the Sony range will set you back almost $4000. I'm grappling with the choice for a trip to Svalbard, Norway looking for polar bears...
Absolutely shocked by this. I have an Ar7 II and have been trying to figure out if I want to downsize or not. Have you done a comparison to the smaller rx100's at all? Also, do you happen to know if Sony has the rx10 V on the horizon at all? If I decided to go in this direction and that's around the corner, I would probably be a little upset had I decided to go with the IV. Thanks for this comparison! Just what I was looking for!!!
Hey there! To answer your questions, while I have not done a direct comparison with the RX100VII, I can tell you that actually am working on a few videos which will be looking deeply into that camera and so far, it looks very impressive indeed. There are currently no rumors at all suggesting a release of the Mark 5. There was one about a year ago which I posted but unfortunately it looks like it was only that, a rumor. I can't tell you whether to get the Mark 4 or not, but if you do, I think you'll be happy with it even if a Mark 5 is to be released at some point. But hey, thats the nature of technology, there are always upgrades, you have to get what you need now.. Thanks for your comment!
I own both, and in my experience the RX10 is worth it's weight, not just for the extra zoom but also all the extra buttons and general feel of the camera. When I just take the RX100 (mk6) I actually resent the relatively light weight and size, because it's still a chunk of heavy and delicate camera and I find I'd rather just use my phone. Basically the 100 is competing with my phone as a point and shoot, whereas the 10 is my 'real camera' and I find I just put more effort and fun into the photography, which gives better results. In late summer of 2023 I took the 100 on a hiking trip through Greece (Menalon Trail) and often wished I'd brought the 10, despite it's greater weight and bulk. Many of my shots with the 100 were hurried and somewhat careless, and frankly I think my phone was just as good and quicker to use. But whenever I take the 10 I start looking at the light, the angles, really thinking of composition, and actually enjoying the hobby of photography again. I should also point out the 100 is delicate. Once dropped mine off the bed onto a wooden floor, about 1.5ft drop, and had to send it to be repaired as the zoom and lens covered were damaged. The 10 is weather-proof and a lot tougher.
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Thanks SO much for.your great response! Def, just what I wanted to to know!!
Great work .Tanks from germany
My pleasure ! Thank you for your comment
Well done video's :) you get to the points fast so it is educational.
Thank you !
which of them do you recommend for Nature and Portrait photography?
You could certainly use both but I would say the Alpha One with a portrait lens (85mm focal length) and fast aperture would be a better option for portraits. I think for nature, especially wildlife or animals in the distance the RX10 with its 600mm lens and relatively light overall package has the advantage. To get a lens that long on a full frame camera is very big and very heavy.
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Rx10 is Amazing camera even in affordable price
The HDR comparison proves what I've found with my RX10... ah, you corrected, well done. Yeah, the RX does tend to over-expose. I pretty much leave it on one notch under all the time, and find the results more pleasing.
Yes, I have found that most Sony cameras (other brands too) tend to auto expose too bright (maybe because they think the image looks better that way)? I don't know but its always better in my view to be a little underexposed than over ! Thanks for your comment
Thanks for this comparison, it is very well made.The dynamic range of the RX10 looks quite terrible though in this example. Sorry to ask, but are you sure the metering mode was set to global? It seems it's set to "center", that would explain the burned out values. I also have the RX10 and the A6400 (APS-C). I shot a few test pictures. The dynamic range was nearly identical in a similar scene (grass, sunlight and tree shadows). The Alpha One has an even bigger sensor (1,5x bigger than APS-C), but the difference would be extremely high if the test is valid. Surprising.
Hey there. The metering was set to default which I believe is center yes. I never usually mess with it as I find the camera does the best job at default setting. Not sure where I see that the RX10 dynamic range looks "terrible." Have not gotten any feedback to that effect. Clearly in some tough scenes, yes it struggles but it is a small sensor and the full frame sensor is going to do better. Now your A6400 is a much bigger APS-C sensor than the Mark 4 so right there, there is smaller difference in the two cameras that you compared. I thought many scenes they looked very close and in some scenes the differences was obvious but I appreciate your feedback!
@@techtoremember8096 Thanks for replying! I apologize for my imperfect english. According to my experience, the RX10 auto-exposure is usually okay, that is why I am surprised by the overexposed picture at 5'58" . What I intended to convey is that I took several shots in the garden under similar lighting, and they didn't result in such extreme brightness (although slightly overexposed). That is why I was questioning the exposure metering mode (since you were in the center, in the shadow, that could have been the reason, as you being the reference value). Also, when testing, the RX10 exposure was almost identical to the A6400 although its 2 times bigger sensor. But maybe the AlphaOne outperforms even the A6400 by far. Anyway, thanks for your videos. Please keep up the good work :)
Hi there. Thank you for clarifying. Your English is great by the way! That's a very good observation you made at 5:58" I went back to look at that scene and yes my face is very overexposed. I think what happened there is that my face really was not the focus of the scene. It is very small in the frame and the camera really was exposing for the entire scene and hence this is why my face was burnt out. Also, if there was face detection the camera may have noticed the face and exposed properly but it did not work out that way. The camera was just left on a tripod and no one was operating the camera. But you are right, that scene did not look great at all. I think the camera was basically just fooled there. I appreciate your comment on my videos and your support and please comment any time! Regards.
@@techtoremember8096 Always a pleasure to watch your videos, looking forward to the next one! There's this new Panasonic G9 II, could be a nice subject by the way.
Anyway, the photo science is not trivial. Some slight changes in weather conditions, air density, lighting, can change it all as you surely know. I have the Nikon P1000 too, and ran some comparisons with the RX10 (you made a nice video about them by the way). Although the sensor is half the size, the P1000 managed to produce sometimes sharper pictures at 600mm. This was unexpected.
I recently replaced my Sony a6400 with a canon sx70 hs. So far I'm pretty happy with the Canon. However in a year or 2, I might consider purchasing the Sony RX10 IV. Mainly for the better auto focus.
You might wanna buy it while you can, as Sony is soon stopping the production of fhe RX10iv
@@Koensol I ordered it on Friday.
I have a RX10m4. it's an Animal of a camera. Besides the 1" sensor my only complaint is it's colours. Everyone talks about colour science but I play around in post.
I think Sony will not update this camera because it will cut into their existing line up. Don't won't to harm your revenue!!
Yes. Sony changed its color sconce in the last year or two. The Rx 10 mk 4 still has the older Sony colors !
@@techtoremember8096 when u mentioned rx10iv still have the older color science, is that actually better? I don’t have any idea of what color science is but each camera / lens tend to have their own color rendition…
Hi there. Each new camera model, camera tweaks their colors. They have actually somewhat of a bad reputation in some circles as some folks think Sonys greens and/or skin tones leave something to be desired. So hopefully in the next model they will address this and make some subtle improvements!
The light on the RX10 is very bright. A1 color science is better. Maybe using a CPL filter on the RX10 will improve it more.
Thanks, very interesting. Was wondering....
My RX10IV is the single best ever purchase I have made to date 💯
Great !!
I'd like to see more examples of stills in lower light/higher-ISO, as even a phone can deliver good results when there's plenty of light. That said, Bruce Barnbaum (author of highly-recommended books including The Art of Photography and The Essence of Photography) shoots medium-format film for B&W but (the last I heard) uses an RX10 (I'm not sure which gen) for color work. Check out his work--"IQ" doesn't seem to be an issue...
Great point. I did include a few low light scenes and the difference while obvious, is not dramatic in my opinion. This is subjective, so depending on how particular you are the difference might seem big to some and not so big to others. Clearly if a good deal of your shooting is going to be in low light then the RX10IV's becomes a less compelling choice.
@@techtoremember8096 Thanks. Well, I'll find out about low light soon enough, as I just ordered an RX10 iv as a possible travel option. I may well still take my Lumix G9M2 12-800mm EFL kit, but I expect the RX will be the more practical choice for many situations. Also, using ILCs in inclement weather (where I get a lot of great shots) is problematic, as it's a really terrible idea to try to change lenses in rain, or even high humidity, so if DxO DeepPRIME XD2s can clean up high-ISO RX RAW files, there's one problem solved. I just wish bridge cameras were more popular, as they really do represent the best option for the vast majority of photographers at any level (but too many people buy into the marketing hype that bigger is better).
Hola, excelente vídeo, yo estoy interesado en adquirir la rx10, me parece una excelente opción, me interesa más por sus prestaciones en fotografía, mi trabajo va más dirigido a la fotografía artística sobre todo en blanco y negro, me gustaría conocer tu opinión sobre esto.
Gracias
Hello my friend. I believe you are asking about black and white photography and the RX10 would do fine converting the images into black and white. Im sure you would be happy with the results. Thank you for your comment
I'm 69 years old. My bad back plus arthritis in my back and hands forced me to sell my full frame outfit. I got this Sony and am still shooting away. As far as its deficiencies are concerned, well, that's what I'm here for.
Hi Frank. Thanks for watching. Sorry about your health issues. I hope the video shed some light on what camera might be for you -Regards
Are the comparison shots with the A1 and RX10 iv RAW or JPEG? Thanks
Great question. And yes they were !
@@techtoremember8096 Yes they were RAW or JPEG?
Oh I’m sorry. They were Jpegs
Thanks, that's what I was hoping they were. Excellent quality!
Yes. Surprisingly close !
this is quite new tech
New old lol
Basically it comes down to this... the cost of an A1 setup is four (could be five) times the cost of an RX10 IV. So, do I get four to five times better image (and video) quality from an A1, and your comparison and analysis says... no. Now obviously there will be situations where the A1 would be the better choice of camera but overall the RX10 will produce suitable (comparable) images. BTW I own neither camera but have been looking at the RX10 and the A1. I'm holding back to see if Sony brings out the 'V' edition of the RX10.
You are exactly right. On top of that there is the convenience of having an “all in one “ solution with a lens that covers such a wide range. The difference in quality was certainly less than I thought it would be. Thanks very much for your comment. Just for your info, there is a lot of speculation on the new Sony cameras for 2022 but the RX 10 mark 5 is not on that list. But. Who knows
Yes................ I personally get 5x better pictures using the A7r IV which is $3k cheaper than the A1 over the RX10IV. Don't get me wrong if you can FULLY frame your subject the RX10 is great. It's when you need to crop in where it becomes problematic as you really just can't, it's like the lens and sensor are maxed out. I just sold my RX10IV today as I knew I cold never go back. Also the Vignetting issue is a Huge issue for me in shooting birds with a sky background.......it's horrible.
Nice!
Thank you !
While most times the a1 blows away the rx10 , there are times though when I’m like ehhhhhh😊
Funny.....This video just popped up in my feed. I just sold my RX10IV today. I picked up a A1 for $2k off a couple weeks ago. The RX10 is a great camera but it just can't compete with any newer Sony mirrorless camera for birding.
What lens do you use?
RX10 mk 4 is like 14 years old now. It’s not a fair comparison.
Actually, it might feel like 14 years ago but the Rx 10 mk 4 was introduced in 2017, only 3 years prior to the A1. The second half of the video discusses extensively the basis for the comparison and what the purpose is. Thanks
@@techtoremember8096 3 years camera translated into actual years is 14 years. Dam i wish they would bring on the mark 5. I am dying for 1inch or APSC, fast read out, 10 bit 4k60 video, unlimited record time camera.
I know what you mean- With the chip shortage so many cameras are delayed. We’ll keep our fingers crossed !
bokeh is an easier tell tale sign
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Thank you buddy !!
Not a huge difference