Nice comparison! I had two copies of the FZ2500 and both had degraded sharpness in photos. I owned every version of the Sony RX10 and never had an issue with lens sharpness. Over the years I found that I prefer the flip-down screen of the Sony over the articulating one.
I really enjoyed this comparison as I have the Sony RX10 IV and the Lumix FX 1000 mk 2 (which is not too different from the FZ 2500 I think) as a back up. I'm truly spoilt by hubby! Birds are my hobby so if the camera fails while I'm abroad (which happened in Spain) it's a disaster, hence the spare. I like using the FZ 1000 best for ease of use and lightness (I'm 74 years young so notice weight!) But it's true that the Sony takes sharper photos and gets closer. The tall white birds are Egrets not Herons. Not sure of American species but it would be like Great White Egret in Europe. Though I've just found there is such a bird as a Great Blue Heron! And there's a white version! But I think it's a pair of Great White Egrets in your presentation.
Hello! Yes you are right the 1000mk2 is very similar to the 2500 so the comparison would definitely apply. I understand what you mean by the tradeoff in weight over the Sony RX10IV. The Panasonic definitely is easier to lug around especially if its going to be for long periods of time at the expense though of some reduced performance all arouind. Thanks for the bird clarification. I have received numerous comments on the species of this bird, some people adamant that its one over the other, but I think you nailed it! Regards.
As usual, another great video, very detailed and educational ~ thanks for the great work. I've had the RX10 for almost six months now and shoot almost every day with it and couldn't be happier. I shoot almost exclusively birds and wildlife and rarely video and the Sony has provided me with countless sharp and crisp images. I'm so impressed with the lightning fast auto-focus, when you see a bird in the bushes or trees and lift the camera ~ there's the bird right in your viewfinder. Even with small, and active birds (warblers, kinglets etc.) once your on the bird the camera follows and when they get in a clear spot you can fire off a burst and almost always get a keeper. It's size and weight are ideal for hiking and travelling. I'm often out with much more educated and experienced photographers, with much more expensive and complicated cameras and the Sony images match and often surpass those taken with the more expensive cameras. I can't really speak to the video quality, as I rarely use it, but for image quality, ease of use and convenience you can't go wrong with the Sony RX10iv.
Hey there! Very well said. I couldn't agree with you more. Logic would dictate that for a camera 6 years old, and so many more expensive mirrorless cameras out there with the technology advancing, one would think the more expensive gear would blow away the RX but time and time again, it never ceases to amaze how well it can stack up against more professional equipment. Video is the one weakness. The stabilization really does not do the long zoom justice and this is where I feel a refresh would benefit the camera the most. One question I have for you, do you find the 600mm is enough reach for birding? And, thank you very much for your kind words in the comment. Much appreciated!
Yes, the 600mm is plenty for birding use, we'd all love perfect clarity from 500 yards away but that would take all the sport out of it. I frequently take shots from 50, 75 or 100 yards away, which wouldn't be something I would hang on the wall, but they do provide good ID shots. I can easily get shots that I would hang on the wall up to 20 - 25 yards away, obviously ~ the closer the better.@@techtoremember8096
Whenever I see the rx100iv I think it is clunky and big looking (albeit it looks sturdy), but then I remember it is under 1.1 kg and how big an equivalent camera with a 600 mm telephoto lens would be. You could get a bigger sensor, but this one performs very well for a do everything in one package camera.
Hey, yes that's true. Once you hold the Rx10IV in your hand it feels solid and well constructed. And definitely, a mirrorless camera with a larger sensor and a comparable lens would be way heavier and unwieldly especially with a fast aperture like this lens.
Great Video!! Lots of informations. Your voice ist clear and good to understand for me as a German. You made my decision easy: My Panasonic FZ 1000 will be retired. I do more photos then videos. So in my opinion the Sony is much better in sharpness, colours and autofocus. It's worth the higher price (actually 1500€)
Fantastic video , thank you for the info and the amazing work you do , thank you for using images even if they are blurry and not in focus , not all photos will be keepers , and its nice to see a true vs video.
Thank you for the very detailed comparison! You did an outstanding job of keeping the video interesting for the full duration! It seems to me that the “clear” winner (if you will) in still pictures is the Sony, especially in auto modes. For my purposes, it seems much better in video as well, as my primary “focus” (sorry!) is in capturing subjects in motion, often with foreground and/or background elements in view. Anyways, I appreciate the time you spent on this video! It definitely helps me see the bigger “picture” (I’m going)!
Oh man, fantastic puns! I definitely can learn a thing or two from you! Apparently The Sony for you is picture perfect !(now you got me started). In any case thanks so much for the highly entertaining comment and for watching the long video straight through to the end. I think you are making the right choice with the Sony. The Panasonic misses the mark I think on too many areas and the Sony, like a good carpenter, nails it! (I'm going too)!
Great comparison even in 2023 as Bridge cameras seem to be not to be developed any further. I myself have a Panasonic Z 2000 since 2017 for video shooting and a very satisfied overall with the quality and the handling. I appreciate the side by side comparisons and also the sharper images of the Sony thanks and best wishes from Berlin
Good comparisons - One comparison that's missing is this: If the camera is lying on the desk in 'standby' mode, how long till it can snap a photo? I call that Time to First Shot or TTFS. If I have to wait for the full extension of the lens at startup, the camera is less useful for grabbing that candid moment that waits for no one. Even a basic Canon DSLR has a TTFS under 1sec.
I have the FC 2500 and you can disable the lens retraction. I do that and it saves a lot of battery also as it does not have to move the lens in and out every time you wait a minute between shots.
Great video! Thanks for helping me decide. I need a bridge camera to replace my dsr for long distant hiking/birding. Clearly the Sony wins all round - with the extra few hundred quid if for frustration alone! I can see the video advantage of the Panasonic but as I don’t take videos it would be wasted on me
The LYTIA 900 sensor is a type-1 sensor which is stacked giving more captured light per diode. Although it depends on whether they reserve them for the mobile market and produce Exmoor T at a larger sensor size.
Another 1 inch sensor bridge camera with ultra zoom (25x 24-600 mm eqvivalent) is Canon G3X. It is older (2015) but much lighter and more compact than both of these (can even fit inside a larger pocket of my jacket). It is also weather sealed. It doesn't have a viewfinder but under a bright sunlight you can click a button to temporarily brighten the LCD screen to maximum. Overall less modern features but very practical to operate. But if you want to aim towards the opposite (more professional) direction while still mostly using a single lens - get a Tamron 18-400 mm lens and pair it with APS-C sensor Nikon or Canon DSLR or a mirrorless camera body (in the latter case you will need an adapter, there is even an adapter for Sony). Some of these lightest options weigh only slightly less than Sony RX10 IV and cost much less.
You will get sharper images (especially towards the corners) with the RX10 IV than the Tamron 18-400 on a larger sensor body. I’ve shot a lot with both.
I find your videos informative, entertaining, and layard with a nice helping of humour. And it's nice that you review cameras that might be a few years old or that the common man might be able to afford, and not so much camera gear that costs more than any car I have ever owned! lol . Keep up the good work.
Thanks so much !! Yes there are plenty of folks reviewing the newest and most expensive gear but the older stuff can surprisingly be quite good Thanks for your comment and support
Hi there and thanks for the comment. The 2500 is let's say the "top of the line" bridge camera for Panasonic with the higher end video specs. Being that the Sony RX10 IV is their "top of the line" bridge camera (not that they really have many left), this seemed to make the most sense to compare the two. In addition, the 2500 goes out to 600mm focal length, the same as the RX10 IV where as the Panasonic 1000 ii only goes to 400mm. Most people are interested in these cameras for the long zoom so both the 2500 and RX10 IV cameras have the 600mm focal length. The 1000 mark 2 is newer but still technically an upgrade from the original model 1000 camera so again getting to the point of the 2500 is the top of the line newer Panasonic so wanted to compare Panasonic's best with Sony's best! (The price points are also much closer with the 2500 and the RX10 IV by the way vs. The 1000 ii.)
Great Egret (Ardea alba) a species in the Heron family (Ardeidae). It is the symbol of the National Audubon, founded in 1900 to protect birds such as the Great Egret from the plumage trade.
Another excellent superzoom review. I really appreciate the time and effort that you put into these videos. You need to understand that viewers all over the world find your work to be very insightful. I am looking through reviews trying to fully understand the relative advantages of brands. I like Lumix feature sets, but also aware of limitations. I look forward to comparisons with the FZ80, and am wondering if Nikon contrast detect is better, or the same as, or worse than Panasonic contrast detect. I am wondering if using a 2x teleconverter lens on an FZ80 (for those times wanting to get to 2000+mm,) and enjoying Lumix advantages for the rest of the time, or if Nikon is still the better camera, either P950 or P1000? Will Panasonic steal a march, and introduce a phase detect superzoom or bridge camera? Meanwhile there is something in your videos (and those of other reviewers). The limitations of Lumix CDAF is demonstrated, but I do not see alternative Lumix focus methods tested. Panasonic has their excellent touch to focus system, in addition to manual focus rings or side dial. Have you ever considered doing a video on using manual focus methods to overcome CDAF limitations? As an older man I grew up with manual focus, so happily move between manual and AF depending on the situation, but those who grew up in the AF era tend to fear MF and seem unaware that MF can often be the better choice. Certainly, where the subject stays at roughly the same distance, it totally avoids all the pulsing and losing focus issues. I think a lot of people would benefit from seeing how simple using manual focus, including touch to focus, is, and when (or when not) to use it.
Hi there, First off I really appreciate your comment. Thanks so much for your kind words. You ask some good questions in your comment. Let me address a few: As far as teleconverters on an FZ80 for example: The FZ80 already has a really powerful zoom--Unless the teleconverter is of real high quality (and I am talking significantly more expensive than the camera itself) they tend to degrade image quality. Image quality is often already degraded due to the lens' optics at the high end of the zoom, so that will make matters even worse. Also there is often a loss of light with the converters and that is going to increase your ISO and on a small sensor camera you don't want that. So of course you can pop on a cheap 2x extender but I wouldn't expect great results, depending on how picky you are naturally. As far as which camera manufacturer's focus is better is a great question. I think for photos, most of them are sufficient. When you are zooming in very tight especially on the Nikons' they really really struggle at that 2000mm. I would go manual focus. Speaking of manual focus, yes it is definitely an option on these cameras. I do believe I mentioned that in my videos "that you can always engage manual focus" but the market for these cameras are for people who want a point and shoot experience. So unlike those that have invested in a mirrorless camera and who may be more on the professional side, autofocus is the preferred method, when possible. Touch to focus I have mixed feelings on. For high zoom work, you want to be using the EVF for stability and touching to focus means you now have to resort to the rear screen. You are distracted from the action and now by touching the screen, you are losing the moment, the camera will be moving slightly and you lost a few seconds of video (if you are shooting video). So yes, its an option but practically not that great/fun to use! But I will keep your comment in mind and in future videos explore those options more. Thanks very much for your input.
A little point about the FZ2500 having the lens fixed in the same position while zooming, if the FZ goes on a gimble, which needs balancing, the zoom can be changed without upsetting the balance.
sony has intelligent stabiliisation for video in hd which is really stable. the rx10iv next to a canon 1dxmk2 + 600mmf4 which was a £16000 set up and sharpness was no real difference. sony did say the lens on the rx10iv was a no compromise lens. id say the panasonic is good for the money but the sony is a clear winner for quality and speed. but you expect it with price difference. the best way though with the rx10iv is to shoot fully manual over program modes.
It is incredible when you do those tests with high end cameras and the RX 10 holds its own! I did see the stabilization improve in HD but crop is heavy and the image is noticeably softer (At least in AVCHD) I think if Sony ever comes out with a successor and they can get to 7 stops of image stab it would be incredible
Did you do a video on that comparison? The RX10 IV is fantastic but you usually can see a small difference in sharpness between it and a pro prime lens in the DXO lens testing. That’s under extreme inspection and studio settings though. I’ve wondered if the difference is even noticeable in real world conditions.
Does anyone know if the Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX10 IV Digital Camera has been replaced with a V model? I can't find out what replaced the IV or the V model as I'm considering a purchase of the very latest model. I'm considering traveling with a sharp zoom lens with excellent autofocus that's not too heavy. I would love to see this gentleman review whatever camera that is. Thanks!
Hello my friend, I can answer your question right now. There has been much speculation about a successor model but unfortunately at least for now, and possibly forever, the RX10IV is the latest model and has not yet been replaced! Sony has not refreshed this line since before COVID and the thinking is that they are just focusing on their more expensive mirrorless cameras. Thank you for your question.
Greetings. I watched the entire video to see the test you mention. I have been using Panasonic Lumix for 5 years to record the videos on my channel. Over the years I discovered some tricks that made the quality much better and I would like you to do a new test with these tricks that I will describe to you. At the beginning of the photography, you deactivate the image stabilizer. When on it causes the photo to shake and lose focus. Aperture priority shooting. The best result for image quality is at f/6.3 - f-7.1. ISO. I set it to 80. Less noise but you need the camera on a tripod if you are in low light. At I iso it also gives good results in this setting. Mode of focus. I've tried everything and the only thing I find better response to is monitoring. I found that even out zoom it focuses better. I mentioned something about zoom that you didn't show in the test. An advantage in a cinematography is the smooth sequential flow from foul zoom to wide angle. And one last thing you won't believe. I did a test with the camera battery and with an external battery pack. You can't imagine the difference in the engine's response to speed. This shows that a higher performance battery than the one offered by the company would be needed. I also have an opinion on the Sony performance because I had borrowed it to make comparisons.
Hi there! It sounds like you really understand the workings of the FZ2500 and how to make the best of it. And thank you for sharing those tips. It is a little concerning , however, why one must "jump through these hoops'" to get the camera to work the way it should. First off, you mention the stabilizer should be turned off to prevent shake. The opposite should be true. The stabilizer should help shake, not cause it. The aperture range for optimum results between 6.3 and 7.1 is barely a stop and a very narrow range. Often times, we will want to use outside this range. Interesting point about the battery pack. I certainly don't dispute your claims and I commend you for figuring out what you have to do to get the camera work its best, but I will just tell you that a camera should not be this finicky and should be more forgiving in these areas. Why not just get another camera which operates better? This is just my thought on the subject but again I thank you for sharing this info as perhaps someone who already has the camera could learn from it!
Thank you for the comment. When you buy any camera you don't know the pros or cons. But from the moment you buy it, it doesn't make sense to lose half of the purchase money for some tips that will make it better. In the diaphragms, I probably did not phrase it correctly. Every photographic lens has some distortions depending on the aperture you use. In this machine it has the smallest distortion if you work it in these apertures. At what dark hours does it make sense to use smaller apertures? I kept it because it has many facilities for us who make videos. such as slow zoom. The built-in ND filter. I forgot to mention that if you have the ND set to automatic, you don't need to do anything else. The machine and probably the program turns it off or turns it on by itself. Great convenience in strong sun conditions. You are right about the stabilizer. It works backwards from what I've found.@@techtoremember8096
As far as I know, the Leica has essentially all the same components inside as a comparable Panasonic model which in this case is the FZ1000 (a prior model to the FZ2500). You are paying extra for the little red dot and Leica prestige and name. Expect very similar results to the Panasonic model I reviewed. Its just that if you want the Leica name that is what you are paying for.
Your videos are just great! I want to start by the end of the video in something I was confused based on what you said 2 minutes before when you said, the slow motion in the Panasonic is not so good as from the Sony because is very much degradated, then you said, that Panasonic 2500 is more thought for Videos, well, if that slow motion I saw was so degradated, I did not understand well your opinion about the Panasonic is made for videos. For me, a good camera made for videos must make slow motions as well as well or? And second, when you were showing the menu of the Sony about the JPG settings of 17 MB, 8 MB and 2 MB I wondered how big are the JPGs made from the Sony. I own an old and crappy SONY DSC HX400V which makes JPGs of 20 Mega Pixels, it is a real problem because when manipulating them inside a PC, I notice very easily that the PC behaves as it has nothing loaded inside my graphic software and I notice that pictures in JPGs of 20 Megapixels are really too little in data and can be easily degradated. It is like very little room for manipulating the pictures with a 20 MP pictures which really upset me a lot. That is why I ask you, how big are those JPGs taken from this Sony, I cant believe they are only from 17 MP as I saw in the settings that you showed. I am planning to buy one sooner than later and now with those 17 MP picture I saw, made me feel frustrated. Please, give me an update as soon as you have a little time, I send you many warm greetings from Muenster, Germany, Alfredo.
Hey there ! Thanks very much for the comment couple of things - I do see your point about the slow motion and video - I only say that the 2500 had video in mind is because it has many features designed for videographers - and it’s video performance is superior to its own photo performance however it is NOT, in my opinion better than the Sonys video performance all around if this makes sense - the slow motion is the weak point (in video ) of the 2500 however if I am going to use slow motion, I more frequently will do it in editing - besides neither camera can do slow motion in 4k- you must shoot in 4k then use an editing program if you want the highest quality slo mo As for the Jpegs, I can tell you they are far better than the h400v - you have room to crop in -I am actually away now working on another video on the RX10 4, so when I return next week I’ll check the JPEG file size for you!
@@techtoremember8096 I thank you very much for such great answer, I understood well, yes, I will need to know how big those JPGs are from inside the RX10 VI, 17 MP will be too little for me and of course, very disappointing. I wish you a nice day there with your new video to come, many greetings from over here, Alfredo
I have a FZ1000 which now reached like 200k photos and is beginning to end. I consider upgrading to FZ2000 or RX10 X10 do I am watching this video. What was important for me when switching to FZ1000 was action capability. In my previous camera after a series of photos I had to wait for the camera to store it. Annoying. No test I found mentions this. Or with modern cameras this is not an issue? Can anyone comment how it works for FZ2500 or RX10?
The thing about these cameras is that they are older and do take longer to store the pictures in a buffer if you are doing burst shooting. The RX10 has a stacked sensor which means it will do a better job than your older FZ1000 for waiting for the buffer. It depends on how many pictures you take, RAW or JPEG and also the speed of your card, so there are a number of factors but the RX!0 definitely has the advantage in this area over the Panasonic. Modern mirrorless cameras with more updated chips and sensors can also do it faster but you are also going to be paying a lot more too if you go that route.
I am trying to decide between the Nikon P950 and the Panasonic FZ2500. Do you have any suggestions? Thank you for your videos. You definitely do the best job showing the capability of these bridge cameras.
Hi, I appreciate your comment! Well, both cameras have their strengths and weaknesses. I would say, it depends on what you are going to use the cameras for. If its for every day, travel use, I'd say the FZ2500 as the image quality will be better in most situations with its larger sensor. Better low light too. Its also lighter and easier to carry around. But if you're just using it mainly for birding or for its long zoom, then the 950s reach blows away the FZ2500 by a large margin. I hope this helps!-Regards
love your videos! we have spoken on here before... i have the p950 and was looking into either a sony or 2500.... this is an awesome comparison, and i got the sony as a gift for my birthday.=)) Still watched this full video cause youre so entertaining, your cheesey sense of humor hahahahaha youre very entertaining and really funny 😂 i did notice i was lucky enough to get rid of touch to focus when recording, and the entire screen remains in focus, tho i will have to look up how to. switch to touch to focus dfor when i want to manually focus during videos, but in many caSES USING ZOOM, i dont see too much difference between some photos/footage of the sony and the p950, tho. without zoom the sony is a bit better and more clear and detailed ;lol
Hey there, yes I remember you! Thanks for appreciating my videos; ultra cheesy nature!. Regarding the manual focus, the camera has a dedicated MF switch for that ( I assume you're talking about the Panasonic 2500)..Comparing the Sony to the 950, yes I agree I think the Sony has the picture quality edge but when you need a ridiculous zoom, well, nothing touches the P1000. Thanks again for your comment and support!
@@techtoremember8096 same here, thank you for your reply! You're an awesome guy and you're very entertaining and really friendly. I truly appreciate your responses to my comments. Too bad i didnt get a chance to meet up with you this past summer at central park ... Would be a great idea to plan that sometime hopefully next summer. Then we can talk about cameras and laugh at each other's cheesy jokes
Should we just shoot in 1080p because do we really watch 4K and able to tell the differences plus it give larger storage space for you to manage and spend on too?
That is a personal decision about 1080p- I know for myself, I have a 4K TV and I really can see the difference between 4k and HD but not everybody is that particular about resolution so in those cases HD is fine! Thank you for your offer on a logo. I have a lot going on right now but when I am ready I will reach out to you. Thank you!
Hello there. Sorry but I have actually very little experience with gimbals. There is no reason why you couldnt use one with the FZ300. I recommend just doing a RUclips search on this topic and you can find some good suggestions and it would be applicable to any small to mid size camera should work. Sorry about that. Best of luck.
@@techtoremember8096 you don't need to be sorry about that. Besides I already did some research in the meantime and you maybe know Graham Houghton. He has made a great video on gimbals. Anyways thanks for your time man really appreciate that
As a stock media videographer/photographer, removing the ND filter from the Sony camera was a major disappointment for me. Nevertheless a great comparison.
Quite disappointed with FZ2500 losing focusing in good light during steady movement of the camera. It is not in a crowded complicated area with interruption. Just only 2 standing people...
I had a Sony photo quality at a very high level, branded colors from Carll Zeiss)) the Panasonic is also good but still inferior to the Sony in photo quality and all because the Sony has a high-quality lens, it is a little heavier and costs more, the whole question is what is more important to you
I got a fz300 for $200 used. It has been a great beginner camera but recently dropped it and autofocus isn’t working right. Almost bought the fz2500 but now thinking about the rx10.
Your constant blowing out the highlights in both cameras really interferes with my comparative analysis on which camera to buy. Really? The only mode you can use is the fully automated one? Both cameras think the white birds are highlights! A better analysis could be done.
Hey there. Not sure its "constant" blowing out of highlights. There are some scenes where yes, highlights are blown and I am trying to demonstrate the cameras in Program auto mode where many folks are going to be using the cameras as point and shoot. Exposure can always be overriden. Sorry you weren't satisfied with the results of the comparison.
I have had the RX10 IV for years now and I have to say I am disappointed in image quality, especially at full zoom. All this talk of the 1 inch sensor giving "professional" quality, it just does not come close to any DSLR, not even the ones with a cropped sensor. The RX10 is supposed to be the best bridge camera, but when it comes to quality, it just does not cut it. I do not know why all these reviews do not say the truth. Professional quality does not come from a bridge camera.
You are entitled to your opinion. The RX10 has an excellent T Coated Zeiss lens which I think helps create the excellent images that come from this camera. The Zeiss T coated lenses which I own as well for mirrorless cameras also produce outstanding results (Zeiss 35 2.8, Zeiss 55 1.8) even though these lenses are many years old.. Its also not just about the sensor size. We can even get great images from cell phones today as well in the proper lighting. Naturally, the RX10 will not do as well in lower light situations as ISO will ramp up quicker or will not give you the background blur of a full frame 2.8 lens BUT in my, and many other people's opinion, backed up by photos, and photos Ive taken side by side with a full frame and professional zoom lens, at times the images are indistinguishable from a full frame camera.
@@techtoremember8096 Thank you for acknowledging my right to my opinion. Some criticism is needed to temper expectations, considering that this camera is not cheap. I have had this camera and the Sony Alpha line for years and am a bit tired of people claiming RX10 pictures are as good as those taken with DSLRs. If you're a featherweight champion, you may be good in your own right, just don't go around picking fights with heavyweights.
I hear you - you have to be realistic in your expectations Every camera has its strengths and weaknesses - with a bridge camera there are definitely trade offs but you get an all in one solution and so it’s a balance -if you want the best of course you go with a professional setup but the Rx I do believe can really perform well under certain conditions - I’m not getting paid by Sony nor do I get any commissions so I’m not selling anything -Anyway thanks for contributing to the dialog ! And for your comment !
Hi. You own the camera I don't. BUT - I've read hundreds and I mean hundreds of comments from ordinary people (not reviewers) regarding the efficacy of this camera - owners over the last 6 years. Actually - there are multiple YT "reviewers" who are still posting positives about this camera this year - 6 years since intro. Bottom line - you are basically paying for a 600mm lens and getting a very decent camera for FREE. You don't really say what aspect of "quality" you are disappointed with? Sharpness, noise, bokeh? These deficiencies can be worked on in post. Have you mastered all the functionality? What genre of photography are you using it for? Have you read Alexander White's Guide? Anyway - not disputing your opinion at all - but there could be some user issues OR maybe your camera is not performing as it should??? You need to spend a minimum of $4,500 to get a kit that covers this range of focal length. Sorry you don't like it.
More from a non reviewer: "I am a Sony shooter. I shoot fashion models and portraits in general but I do like street photography and wildlife in my resting time. I have the A9, A7 III with lenses and lighting equipment. For me in my work it is not so bad to carry the gear I need for a shoot on location. My work is different. But I also bought the RX10 MK4 as a walk about camera. Something I can keep next with me always. I am amazed and I continue to be amazed by this camera. Excellent for street photography, travel, wildlife and I even experimented on a photo shoot with a model. The results were great that the company which I shoot for wanted the shots from the RX10 MK4 to use as a part of the portfolio I was hired to shoot. One thing I will say is to use this camera a lot to learn how to work around situations. When you are used to everything about this camera you can really push it to get the professional results. It is a hard to describe camera. It is not full frame and has one card slot. It is a bridge camera and a lot of pros give it a bad write up but I do not think they even tried to use it. It performs and performs very well. It is not a pro camera but at the same time it is not a beginners camera. Some people say it is a point and shoot bridge camera but it has so many pro features that it would be hard to see a family man getting the full use from this on a holiday with his family. I bought it as a carry it everywhere with me camera when I do not want my gear with me and I will say I get more shots with this than my pro gear because I do not need to change lenses and so on. You will be very happy with your choices and I do recommend this camera as the only one of its kind in the world at this time."
Not sure what you mean by "nobody" looks at photos from bridge cameras but I have other videos comparing the Nikon P1000 to the Sony RX10IV and other videos on the Nikon superzooms.
Nice comparison! I had two copies of the FZ2500 and both had degraded sharpness in photos. I owned every version of the Sony RX10 and never had an issue with lens sharpness. Over the years I found that I prefer the flip-down screen of the Sony over the articulating one.
Totally agree with your findings ! Thanks for the comment !
I really enjoyed this comparison as I have the Sony RX10 IV and the Lumix FX 1000 mk 2 (which is not too different from the FZ 2500 I think) as a back up. I'm truly spoilt by hubby! Birds are my hobby so if the camera fails while I'm abroad (which happened in Spain) it's a disaster, hence the spare. I like using the FZ 1000 best for ease of use and lightness (I'm 74 years young so notice weight!) But it's true that the Sony takes sharper photos and gets closer. The tall white birds are Egrets not Herons. Not sure of American species but it would be like Great White Egret in Europe. Though I've just found there is such a bird as a Great Blue Heron! And there's a white version! But I think it's a pair of Great White Egrets in your presentation.
Hello! Yes you are right the 1000mk2 is very similar to the 2500 so the comparison would definitely apply. I understand what you mean by the tradeoff in weight over the Sony RX10IV. The Panasonic definitely is easier to lug around especially if its going to be for long periods of time at the expense though of some reduced performance all arouind. Thanks for the bird clarification. I have received numerous comments on the species of this bird, some people adamant that its one over the other, but I think you nailed it! Regards.
As usual, another great video, very detailed and educational ~ thanks for the great work. I've had the RX10 for almost six months now and shoot almost every day with it and couldn't be happier. I shoot almost exclusively birds and wildlife and rarely video and the Sony has provided me with countless sharp and crisp images. I'm so impressed with the lightning fast auto-focus, when you see a bird in the bushes or trees and lift the camera ~ there's the bird right in your viewfinder. Even with small, and active birds (warblers, kinglets etc.) once your on the bird the camera follows and when they get in a clear spot you can fire off a burst and almost always get a keeper. It's size and weight are ideal for hiking and travelling. I'm often out with much more educated and experienced photographers, with much more expensive and complicated cameras and the Sony images match and often surpass those taken with the more expensive cameras. I can't really speak to the video quality, as I rarely use it, but for image quality, ease of use and convenience you can't go wrong with the Sony RX10iv.
Hey there! Very well said. I couldn't agree with you more. Logic would dictate that for a camera 6 years old, and so many more expensive mirrorless cameras out there with the technology advancing, one would think the more expensive gear would blow away the RX but time and time again, it never ceases to amaze how well it can stack up against more professional equipment. Video is the one weakness. The stabilization really does not do the long zoom justice and this is where I feel a refresh would benefit the camera the most. One question I have for you, do you find the 600mm is enough reach for birding? And, thank you very much for your kind words in the comment. Much appreciated!
Yes, the 600mm is plenty for birding use, we'd all love perfect clarity from 500 yards away but that would take all the sport out of it. I frequently take shots from 50, 75 or 100 yards away, which wouldn't be something I would hang on the wall, but they do provide good ID shots. I can easily get shots that I would hang on the wall up to 20 - 25 yards away, obviously ~ the closer the better.@@techtoremember8096
Whenever I see the rx100iv I think it is clunky and big looking (albeit it looks sturdy), but then I remember it is under 1.1 kg and how big an equivalent camera with a 600 mm telephoto lens would be. You could get a bigger sensor, but this one performs very well for a do everything in one package camera.
Hey, yes that's true. Once you hold the Rx10IV in your hand it feels solid and well constructed. And definitely, a mirrorless camera with a larger sensor and a comparable lens would be way heavier and unwieldly especially with a fast aperture like this lens.
You answered my question. Thank you. Sony RX 10 V might be a possibility if I live that long. In the meantime, APS and FF.
Just discovered your channel and I love your humor. Definitely subscribed!
Thanks so much. Glad to have you onboard!
Great Video!! Lots of informations. Your voice ist clear and good to understand for me as a German. You made my decision easy: My Panasonic FZ 1000 will be retired. I do more photos then videos. So in my opinion the Sony is much better in sharpness, colours and autofocus. It's worth the higher price (actually 1500€)
Glad the video helped you make a decision! I would agree with your assessment Thanks for the comment!
Fantastic video , thank you for the info and the amazing work you do , thank you for using images even if they are blurry and not in focus , not all photos will be keepers , and its nice to see a true vs video.
Much appreciated my friend !
Thank you for the very detailed comparison! You did an outstanding job of keeping the video interesting for the full duration!
It seems to me that the “clear” winner (if you will) in still pictures is the Sony, especially in auto modes. For my purposes, it seems much better in video as well, as my primary “focus” (sorry!) is in capturing subjects in motion, often with foreground and/or background elements in view.
Anyways, I appreciate the time you spent on this video! It definitely helps me see the bigger “picture” (I’m going)!
Oh man, fantastic puns! I definitely can learn a thing or two from you! Apparently The Sony for you is picture perfect !(now you got me started). In any case thanks so much for the highly entertaining comment and for watching the long video straight through to the end. I think you are making the right choice with the Sony. The Panasonic misses the mark I think on too many areas and the Sony, like a good carpenter, nails it! (I'm going too)!
The large white birds are Great Egrets. Great video!
Ok great ! Thanks for clarifying ! Someone said they were herons but at least we know they are not storks! Thanks for your comment
oh yes? I thought they were American Giants Doves!
Great comparison even in 2023 as Bridge cameras seem to be not to be developed any further. I myself have a Panasonic Z 2000 since 2017 for video shooting and a very satisfied overall with the quality and the handling. I appreciate the side by side comparisons and also the sharper images of the Sony thanks and best wishes from Berlin
Much appreciated ! Hope things are going well in Berlin !
Good comparisons - One comparison that's missing is this: If the camera is lying on the desk in 'standby' mode, how long till it can snap a photo? I call that Time to First Shot or TTFS. If I have to wait for the full extension of the lens at startup, the camera is less useful for grabbing that candid moment that waits for no one. Even a basic Canon DSLR has a TTFS under 1sec.
Well. That's an issue for digital cameras. But i guess it's faster on Panasonic.
I have the FC 2500 and you can disable the lens retraction. I do that and it saves a lot of battery also as it does not have to move the lens in and out every time you wait a minute between shots.
I like my 2500. The Neutral Density filter and better image stabilization of the 2500 make it a good video B-Cam.
Great video! Thanks for helping me decide. I need a bridge camera to replace my dsr for long distant hiking/birding. Clearly the Sony wins all round - with the extra few hundred quid if for frustration alone! I can see the video advantage of the Panasonic but as I don’t take videos it would be wasted on me
So glad the video helped you come to a decision! Best of luck with the camera and your hiking/birding adventures
The best reviewer I ever seen. Thank for very detailed comparison with nice examples.
Thanks! Much appreciated
I hope Sony make RX10V and RX100VIII with their new Exmor T sensor technology!
And start from ultra wide too!
The LYTIA 900 sensor is a type-1 sensor which is stacked giving more captured light per diode. Although it depends on whether they reserve them for the mobile market and produce Exmoor T at a larger sensor size.
Another 1 inch sensor bridge camera with ultra zoom (25x 24-600 mm eqvivalent) is Canon G3X. It is older (2015) but much lighter and more compact than both of these (can even fit inside a larger pocket of my jacket). It is also weather sealed. It doesn't have a viewfinder but under a bright sunlight you can click a button to temporarily brighten the LCD screen to maximum. Overall less modern features but very practical to operate.
But if you want to aim towards the opposite (more professional) direction while still mostly using a single lens - get a Tamron 18-400 mm lens and pair it with APS-C sensor Nikon or Canon DSLR or a mirrorless camera body (in the latter case you will need an adapter, there is even an adapter for Sony). Some of these lightest options weigh only slightly less than Sony RX10 IV and cost much less.
You will get sharper images (especially towards the corners) with the RX10 IV than the Tamron 18-400 on a larger sensor body. I’ve shot a lot with both.
I own both, and each excels in different areas,
for 4K video, I prefer the fz2500 for ease of use.
great comparo. thanks for the useful info!
this channel deserve millions of subs, dead serious
Thanks so much for that! Hopefully one day....
I find your videos informative, entertaining, and layard with a nice helping of humour. And it's nice that you review cameras that might be a few years old or that the common man might be able to afford, and not so much camera gear that costs more than any car I have ever owned! lol . Keep up the good work.
Thanks so much !! Yes there are plenty of folks reviewing the newest and most expensive gear but the older stuff can surprisingly be quite good Thanks for your comment and support
Good in depth/real world comparison: however, im wondering why you chose the older 2500 vs the newer 1000 ii ?!?
Hi there and thanks for the comment. The 2500 is let's say the "top of the line" bridge camera for Panasonic with the higher end video specs. Being that the Sony RX10 IV is their "top of the line" bridge camera (not that they really have many left), this seemed to make the most sense to compare the two. In addition, the 2500 goes out to 600mm focal length, the same as the RX10 IV where as the Panasonic 1000 ii only goes to 400mm. Most people are interested in these cameras for the long zoom so both the 2500 and RX10 IV cameras have the 600mm focal length. The 1000 mark 2 is newer but still technically an upgrade from the original model 1000 camera so again getting to the point of the 2500 is the top of the line newer Panasonic so wanted to compare Panasonic's best with Sony's best! (The price points are also much closer with the 2500 and the RX10 IV by the way vs. The 1000 ii.)
Great job! Glad you got the low light comparison.
Thanks !!
Great Egret (Ardea alba) a species in the Heron family (Ardeidae). It is the symbol of the National Audubon, founded in 1900 to protect birds such as the Great Egret from the plumage trade.
Another excellent superzoom review. I really appreciate the time and effort that you put into these videos. You need to understand that viewers all over the world find your work to be very insightful.
I am looking through reviews trying to fully understand the relative advantages of brands. I like Lumix feature sets, but also aware of limitations. I look forward to comparisons with the FZ80, and am wondering if Nikon contrast detect is better, or the same as, or worse than Panasonic contrast detect. I am wondering if using a 2x teleconverter lens on an FZ80 (for those times wanting to get to 2000+mm,) and enjoying Lumix advantages for the rest of the time, or if Nikon is still the better camera, either P950 or P1000? Will Panasonic steal a march, and introduce a phase detect superzoom or bridge camera?
Meanwhile there is something in your videos (and those of other reviewers). The limitations of Lumix CDAF is demonstrated, but I do not see alternative Lumix focus methods tested. Panasonic has their excellent touch to focus system, in addition to manual focus rings or side dial. Have you ever considered doing a video on using manual focus methods to overcome CDAF limitations?
As an older man I grew up with manual focus, so happily move between manual and AF depending on the situation, but those who grew up in the AF era tend to fear MF and seem unaware that MF can often be the better choice. Certainly, where the subject stays at roughly the same distance, it totally avoids all the pulsing and losing focus issues. I think a lot of people would benefit from seeing how simple using manual focus, including touch to focus, is, and when (or when not) to use it.
Hi there, First off I really appreciate your comment. Thanks so much for your kind words. You ask some good questions in your comment. Let me address a few: As far as teleconverters on an FZ80 for example: The FZ80 already has a really powerful zoom--Unless the teleconverter is of real high quality (and I am talking significantly more expensive than the camera itself) they tend to degrade image quality. Image quality is often already degraded due to the lens' optics at the high end of the zoom, so that will make matters even worse. Also there is often a loss of light with the converters and that is going to increase your ISO and on a small sensor camera you don't want that. So of course you can pop on a cheap 2x extender but I wouldn't expect great results, depending on how picky you are naturally. As far as which camera manufacturer's focus is better is a great question. I think for photos, most of them are sufficient. When you are zooming in very tight especially on the Nikons' they really really struggle at that 2000mm. I would go manual focus. Speaking of manual focus, yes it is definitely an option on these cameras. I do believe I mentioned that in my videos "that you can always engage manual focus" but the market for these cameras are for people who want a point and shoot experience. So unlike those that have invested in a mirrorless camera and who may be more on the professional side, autofocus is the preferred method, when possible. Touch to focus I have mixed feelings on. For high zoom work, you want to be using the EVF for stability and touching to focus means you now have to resort to the rear screen. You are distracted from the action and now by touching the screen, you are losing the moment, the camera will be moving slightly and you lost a few seconds of video (if you are shooting video). So yes, its an option but practically not that great/fun to use! But I will keep your comment in mind and in future videos explore those options more. Thanks very much for your input.
A little point about the FZ2500 having the lens fixed in the same position while zooming, if the FZ goes on a gimble, which needs balancing, the zoom can be changed without upsetting the balance.
Great point -Thanks for the input
sony has intelligent stabiliisation for video in hd which is really stable. the rx10iv next to a canon 1dxmk2 + 600mmf4 which was a £16000 set up and sharpness was no real difference. sony did say the lens on the rx10iv was a no compromise lens. id say the panasonic is good for the money but the sony is a clear winner for quality and speed. but you expect it with price difference. the best way though with the rx10iv is to shoot fully manual over program modes.
It is incredible when you do those tests with high end cameras and the RX 10 holds its own! I did see the stabilization improve in HD but crop is heavy and the image is noticeably softer (At least in AVCHD) I think if Sony ever comes out with a successor and they can get to 7 stops of image stab it would be incredible
@@techtoremember8096 no chance for some time because the tech now would hurt sales of other cameras if they released a new one
Did you do a video on that comparison? The RX10 IV is fantastic but you usually can see a small difference in sharpness between it and a pro prime lens in the DXO lens testing. That’s under extreme inspection and studio settings though. I’ve wondered if the difference is even noticeable in real world conditions.
Sony is pretty decent but image stabilisation in 4K is poor. And would be good if it had a zoom rocker switch somehow.
@@SpiritofScotland-v7e it has a zoom rocker switch aswell as the zoom wheel. its a 7 year old camera things have improved sinse then
Sir special for wildlife photography tell me sony or panasonic
I would go with the Sony for better picture quality , better zoom reach in photos
Does anyone know if the Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX10 IV Digital Camera has been replaced with a V model? I can't find out what replaced the IV or the V model as I'm considering a purchase of the very latest model. I'm considering traveling with a sharp zoom lens with excellent autofocus that's not too heavy. I would love to see this gentleman review whatever camera that is. Thanks!
Hello my friend, I can answer your question right now. There has been much speculation about a successor model but unfortunately at least for now, and possibly forever, the RX10IV is the latest model and has not yet been replaced! Sony has not refreshed this line since before COVID and the thinking is that they are just focusing on their more expensive mirrorless cameras. Thank you for your question.
True If you wait too long the camera may be discontinued - you have to thread the needle lol
Greetings. I watched the entire video to see the test you mention. I have been using Panasonic Lumix for 5 years to record the videos on my channel. Over the years I discovered some tricks that made the quality much better and I would like you to do a new test with these tricks that I will describe to you. At the beginning of the photography, you deactivate the image stabilizer. When on it causes the photo to shake and lose focus. Aperture priority shooting. The best result for image quality is at f/6.3 - f-7.1. ISO. I set it to 80. Less noise but you need the camera on a tripod if you are in low light. At I iso it also gives good results in this setting. Mode of focus. I've tried everything and the only thing I find better response to is monitoring. I found that even out zoom it focuses better. I mentioned something about zoom that you didn't show in the test. An advantage in a cinematography is the smooth sequential flow from foul zoom to wide angle. And one last thing you won't believe. I did a test with the camera battery and with an external battery pack. You can't imagine the difference in the engine's response to speed. This shows that a higher performance battery than the one offered by the company would be needed. I also have an opinion on the Sony performance because I had borrowed it to make comparisons.
Hi there! It sounds like you really understand the workings of the FZ2500 and how to make the best of it. And thank you for sharing those tips. It is a little concerning , however, why one must "jump through these hoops'" to get the camera to work the way it should. First off, you mention the stabilizer should be turned off to prevent shake. The opposite should be true. The stabilizer should help shake, not cause it. The aperture range for optimum results between 6.3 and 7.1 is barely a stop and a very narrow range. Often times, we will want to use outside this range. Interesting point about the battery pack. I certainly don't dispute your claims and I commend you for figuring out what you have to do to get the camera work its best, but I will just tell you that a camera should not be this finicky and should be more forgiving in these areas. Why not just get another camera which operates better? This is just my thought on the subject but again I thank you for sharing this info as perhaps someone who already has the camera could learn from it!
Thank you for the comment. When you buy any camera you don't know the pros or cons. But from the moment you buy it, it doesn't make sense to lose half of the purchase money for some tips that will make it better.
In the diaphragms, I probably did not phrase it correctly. Every photographic lens has some distortions depending on the aperture you use. In this machine it has the smallest distortion if you work it in these apertures. At what dark hours does it make sense to use smaller apertures?
I kept it because it has many facilities for us who make videos. such as slow zoom. The built-in ND filter. I forgot to mention that if you have the ND set to automatic, you don't need to do anything else. The machine and probably the program turns it off or turns it on by itself. Great convenience in strong sun conditions. You are right about the stabilizer. It works backwards from what I've found.@@techtoremember8096
Thank you.
Thanks for another great video. How would you say FZ2500 compare to FZ300 in terms of image quality in photos?
I think the edge is the fz300 in photos -thank you for the comment I do plan on making a comparison video between these 2
How about a comparison for the Leica V Lux-5? I want to know if that’s better by image quality and videos!
As far as I know, the Leica has essentially all the same components inside as a comparable Panasonic model which in this case is the FZ1000 (a prior model to the FZ2500). You are paying extra for the little red dot and Leica prestige and name. Expect very similar results to the Panasonic model I reviewed. Its just that if you want the Leica name that is what you are paying for.
@@techtoremember8096Thank you, I didn’t know that.
Hi..,for surfing movies and photos which would be better? rx10 iv, p1000 or fz2500?
The Sony is more weather resistant if it gets wet so I’d go with that
@@techtoremember8096 thanks
Your videos are just great! I want to start by the end of the video in something I was confused based on what you said 2 minutes before when you said, the slow motion in the Panasonic is not so good as from the Sony because is very much degradated, then you said, that Panasonic 2500 is more thought for Videos, well, if that slow motion I saw was so degradated, I did not understand well your opinion about the Panasonic is made for videos. For me, a good camera made for videos must make slow motions as well as well or? And second, when you were showing the menu of the Sony about the JPG settings of 17 MB, 8 MB and 2 MB I wondered how big are the JPGs made from the Sony. I own an old and crappy SONY DSC HX400V which makes JPGs of 20 Mega Pixels, it is a real problem because when manipulating them inside a PC, I notice very easily that the PC behaves as it has nothing loaded inside my graphic software and I notice that pictures in JPGs of 20 Megapixels are really too little in data and can be easily degradated. It is like very little room for manipulating the pictures with a 20 MP pictures which really upset me a lot. That is why I ask you, how big are those JPGs taken from this Sony, I cant believe they are only from 17 MP as I saw in the settings that you showed. I am planning to buy one sooner than later and now with those 17 MP picture I saw, made me feel frustrated. Please, give me an update as soon as you have a little time, I send you many warm greetings from Muenster, Germany, Alfredo.
Hey there ! Thanks very much for the comment couple of things - I do see your point about the slow motion and video - I only say that the 2500 had video in mind is because it has many features designed for videographers - and it’s video performance is superior to its own photo performance however it is NOT, in my opinion better than the Sonys video performance all around if this makes sense - the slow motion is the weak point (in video ) of the 2500 however if I am going to use slow motion, I more frequently will do it in editing - besides neither camera can do slow motion in 4k- you must shoot in 4k then use an editing program if you want the highest quality slo mo
As for the Jpegs, I can tell you they are far better than the h400v - you have room to crop in -I am actually away now working on another video on the RX10 4, so when I return next week I’ll check the JPEG file size for you!
@@techtoremember8096 I thank you very much for such great answer, I understood well, yes, I will need to know how big those JPGs are from inside the RX10 VI, 17 MP will be too little for me and of course, very disappointing. I wish you a nice day there with your new video to come, many greetings from over here, Alfredo
The best review about FZ2500!!!
Much appreciated !!
I have a FZ1000 which now reached like 200k photos and is beginning to end. I consider upgrading to FZ2000 or RX10 X10 do I am watching this video. What was important for me when switching to FZ1000 was action capability. In my previous camera after a series of photos I had to wait for the camera to store it. Annoying. No test I found mentions this. Or with modern cameras this is not an issue? Can anyone comment how it works for FZ2500 or RX10?
The thing about these cameras is that they are older and do take longer to store the pictures in a buffer if you are doing burst shooting. The RX10 has a stacked sensor which means it will do a better job than your older FZ1000 for waiting for the buffer. It depends on how many pictures you take, RAW or JPEG and also the speed of your card, so there are a number of factors but the RX!0 definitely has the advantage in this area over the Panasonic. Modern mirrorless cameras with more updated chips and sensors can also do it faster but you are also going to be paying a lot more too if you go that route.
I am trying to decide between the Nikon P950 and the Panasonic FZ2500. Do you have any suggestions? Thank you for your videos. You definitely do the best job showing the capability of these bridge cameras.
Hi, I appreciate your comment! Well, both cameras have their strengths and weaknesses. I would say, it depends on what you are going to use the cameras for. If its for every day, travel use, I'd say the FZ2500 as the image quality will be better in most situations with its larger sensor. Better low light too. Its also lighter and easier to carry around. But if you're just using it mainly for birding or for its long zoom, then the 950s reach blows away the FZ2500 by a large margin. I hope this helps!-Regards
love your videos! we have spoken on here before... i have the p950 and was looking into either a sony or 2500.... this is an awesome comparison, and i got the sony as a gift for my birthday.=))
Still watched this full video cause youre so entertaining, your cheesey sense of humor hahahahaha youre very entertaining and really funny 😂
i did notice i was lucky enough to get rid of touch to focus when recording, and the entire screen remains in focus, tho i will have to look up how to. switch to touch to focus dfor when i want to manually focus during videos, but in many caSES USING ZOOM, i dont see too much difference between some photos/footage of the sony and the p950, tho. without zoom the sony is a bit better and more clear and detailed ;lol
Hey there, yes I remember you! Thanks for appreciating my videos; ultra cheesy nature!. Regarding the manual focus, the camera has a dedicated MF switch for that ( I assume you're talking about the Panasonic 2500)..Comparing the Sony to the 950, yes I agree I think the Sony has the picture quality edge but when you need a ridiculous zoom, well, nothing touches the P1000. Thanks again for your comment and support!
@@techtoremember8096 same here, thank you for your reply! You're an awesome guy and you're very entertaining and really friendly. I truly appreciate your responses to my comments.
Too bad i didnt get a chance to meet up with you this past summer at central park ... Would be a great idea to plan that sometime hopefully next summer. Then we can talk about cameras and laugh at each other's cheesy jokes
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Hey, thanks again for the comment! Yes, hopefully next summer, let me know when you're around ! Thanks for your support!
Should we just shoot in 1080p because do we really watch 4K and able to tell the differences plus it give larger storage space for you to manage and spend on too?
That is a personal decision about 1080p- I know for myself, I have a 4K TV and I really can see the difference between 4k and HD but not everybody is that particular about resolution so in those cases HD is fine! Thank you for your offer on a logo. I have a lot going on right now but when I am ready I will reach out to you. Thank you!
The better image quality of this Zeiss lens against Leica's is quite obvious in this video.
Sir what budget oriented gimbal would you recommend for the DMC FZ 300. And how would you connect it.
Via WiFi? Any port.
Thanks a lot
Hello there. Sorry but I have actually very little experience with gimbals. There is no reason why you couldnt use one with the FZ300. I recommend just doing a RUclips search on this topic and you can find some good suggestions and it would be applicable to any small to mid size camera should work. Sorry about that. Best of luck.
@@techtoremember8096 you don't need to be sorry about that.
Besides I already did some research in the meantime and you maybe know Graham Houghton.
He has made a great video on gimbals.
Anyways thanks for your time man really appreciate that
@emanrov ok great yes I have heard about graham ! Glad you found some good info ! Thanks for your support
For small bird perching photos neither has enough zoom at 25X optical. Compare that with 83x-100x in the Nikon P900 to P1000 series.
Yes but those are smaller sensor cameras with reduced image quality I do have reviews of both if the higher zoom is a priority
Those are just expensive toys that can give You barely usable results.
@@m4rcin847 A used P900 cost les than $300
I love taking my FZ1000 to baseball games
Thanks heaps for me I need the Sony autofocus 😊❤
No problem! yes the AF on the Sony is clearly (pun intended) better!
Very helpful, thank you.
Did I miss a section on battery life ?
I believe I discussed that Neither is great. Have extras on hand
Can you compare the LUMIX FZ2500 to the Nikon P950?
Hopefully ! In the meantime I do have a few videos on the 950 feel free to check out
@@techtoremember8096 I watched them already. I am hoping Nikon is planning to upgrade the P950 or the P1000.
nikon would need to make a decent sensor for the nikon as is pants
Great useful video,thanks a lot.
Storchs are black and white and they have a red beak. This is a great egret.
In France the FZ2500 is named FZ2000.
Price FZ2000 nude now 849 €, RX10 IV 1400 €.
Good to know !
I got a used RX10 Mark 4 for €700. Happy days!
lumix looks more lively, stable and sharp in this video, am I wrong?
I will tell you the Lumix looks great when it’s in focus !
Even in video... Sony win ...... Thanks for video
My pleasure !
i have the fz2500 since many years, have you tried it successfully with any gimbal and preferably zoomed with the gimbal too ?
thanks,
Hi there. Unfortunately, I have not used the 2500 with a gimbal so I can't speak to that. But the stabilizaton even without a gimbal is quite good!
Great content! I am impressed with Panasonic Intelligent Zoom in Video mode.
Sadly, resistant is not weather-proof, as my poor RX10 IV found out today. Hopefully, once it dries out, it'll be back to normal.
Fingers crossed - was it submerged ?
@@techtoremember8096 Drenched in a rain storm. Thankfully, it dried out and is working again.
@WaffleusRex awesome !
@WaffleusRex good to hear
As a stock media videographer/photographer, removing the ND filter from the Sony camera was a major disappointment for me. Nevertheless a great comparison.
When Sony went to the longer zoom, I think the ND had to come off but yes, it is a disappointment. Thanks for the comment!
Nice comparison 😊, 1st comment
Thank you ! You’re #1 in my book
Quite disappointed with FZ2500 losing focusing in good light during steady movement of the camera. It is not in a crowded complicated area with interruption. Just only 2 standing people...
Very true
You are the best
Aw ! Thank you !
I had a Sony photo quality at a very high level, branded colors from Carll Zeiss)) the Panasonic is also good but still inferior to the Sony in photo quality and all because the Sony has a high-quality lens, it is a little heavier and costs more, the whole question is what is more important to you
Well said !
Fujifilm stuff is pretty cool
1/2.3" sensor is actually about 7.7 mm (i.e. 0.3"). 1" sensor is about 15.8 mm. The size markings make no sense.
Lumix for me.
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I had an FZ2500 but quickly replaced it with the much superior RX10m4. The FZ2500 is the poor man's RX10m4. You truly get what you pay for.
Oh. I got fz2500 for $746 and I'll see if I'll like it or not. And RX10m4 is over $1700. I'll use my Panasonic for a while
I got a fz300 for $200 used. It has been a great beginner camera but recently dropped it and autofocus isn’t working right. Almost bought the fz2500 but now thinking about the rx10.
@@MrWhiteTankI would def go with the Sony 10 Iv 😊
great white egret
Your constant blowing out the highlights in both cameras really interferes with my comparative analysis on which camera to buy.
Really? The only mode you can use is the fully automated one? Both cameras think the white birds are highlights!
A better analysis could be done.
Hey there. Not sure its "constant" blowing out of highlights. There are some scenes where yes, highlights are blown and I am trying to demonstrate the cameras in Program auto mode where many folks are going to be using the cameras as point and shoot. Exposure can always be overriden. Sorry you weren't satisfied with the results of the comparison.
It's not a stork. It's a heron.
Great white Egret in UK part of heron family
@@labandjbify OT
That's funny how languages work. In my language there is no distinction between egret and heron or between pigeon and dove :D
It’s not a heron. It’s a great egret :)
I have had the RX10 IV for years now and I have to say I am disappointed in image quality, especially at full zoom. All this talk of the 1 inch sensor giving "professional" quality, it just does not come close to any DSLR, not even the ones with a cropped sensor. The RX10 is supposed to be the best bridge camera, but when it comes to quality, it just does not cut it. I do not know why all these reviews do not say the truth. Professional quality does not come from a bridge camera.
You are entitled to your opinion. The RX10 has an excellent T Coated Zeiss lens which I think helps create the excellent images that come from this camera. The Zeiss T coated lenses which I own as well for mirrorless cameras also produce outstanding results (Zeiss 35 2.8, Zeiss 55 1.8) even though these lenses are many years old.. Its also not just about the sensor size. We can even get great images from cell phones today as well in the proper lighting. Naturally, the RX10 will not do as well in lower light situations as ISO will ramp up quicker or will not give you the background blur of a full frame 2.8 lens BUT in my, and many other people's opinion, backed up by photos, and photos Ive taken side by side with a full frame and professional zoom lens, at times the images are indistinguishable from a full frame camera.
@@techtoremember8096 Thank you for acknowledging my right to my opinion. Some criticism is needed to temper expectations, considering that this camera is not cheap. I have had this camera and the Sony Alpha line for years and am a bit tired of people claiming RX10 pictures are as good as those taken with DSLRs. If you're a featherweight champion, you may be good in your own right, just don't go around picking fights with heavyweights.
I hear you - you have to be realistic in your expectations Every camera has its strengths and weaknesses - with a bridge camera there are definitely trade offs but you get an all in one solution and so it’s a balance -if you want the best of course you go with a professional setup but the Rx I do believe can really perform well under certain conditions - I’m not getting paid by Sony nor do I get any commissions so I’m not selling anything -Anyway thanks for contributing to the dialog ! And for your comment !
Hi. You own the camera I don't. BUT - I've read hundreds and I mean hundreds of comments from ordinary people (not reviewers) regarding the efficacy of this camera - owners over the last 6 years. Actually - there are multiple YT "reviewers" who are still posting positives about this camera this year - 6 years since intro. Bottom line - you are basically paying for a 600mm lens and getting a very decent camera for FREE. You don't really say what aspect of "quality" you are disappointed with? Sharpness, noise, bokeh? These deficiencies can be worked on in post. Have you mastered all the functionality? What genre of photography are you using it for? Have you read Alexander White's Guide? Anyway - not disputing your opinion at all - but there could be some user issues OR maybe your camera is not performing as it should??? You need to spend a minimum of $4,500 to get a kit that covers this range of focal length. Sorry you don't like it.
More from a non reviewer: "I am a Sony shooter. I shoot fashion models and portraits in general but I do like street photography and wildlife in my resting time. I have the A9, A7 III with lenses and lighting equipment. For me in my work it is not so bad to carry the gear I need for a shoot on location. My work is different. But I also bought the RX10 MK4 as a walk about camera. Something I can keep next with me always. I am amazed and I continue to be amazed by this camera. Excellent for street photography, travel, wildlife and I even experimented on a photo shoot with a model. The results were great that the company which I shoot for wanted the shots from the RX10 MK4 to use as a part of the portfolio I was hired to shoot. One thing I will say is to use this camera a lot to learn how to work around situations. When you are used to everything about this camera you can really push it to get the professional results. It is a hard to describe camera. It is not full frame and has one card slot. It is a bridge camera and a lot of pros give it a bad write up but I do not think they even tried to use it. It performs and performs very well. It is not a pro camera but at the same time it is not a beginners camera. Some people say it is a point and shoot bridge camera but it has so many pro features that it would be hard to see a family man getting the full use from this on a holiday with his family. I bought it as a carry it everywhere with me camera when I do not want my gear with me and I will say I get more shots with this than my pro gear because I do not need to change lenses and so on. You will be very happy with your choices and I do recommend this camera as the only one of its kind in the world at this time."
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phones now have a 1 inch sensor and more features.
Zoom buta
Meanwhile millions of shots are taken from cell phones and nobody looks at photos from bridge cameras. Why was Nikon omitted from this test?
Not sure what you mean by "nobody" looks at photos from bridge cameras but I have other videos comparing the Nikon P1000 to the Sony RX10IV and other videos on the Nikon superzooms.
... this is probably the most ugly lens hood ever built :o)
Yeah I’m not sure why Panasonic went with that design