Because I've seen it being mentioned a lot, more so since the launch of Shadowlands, I thought I'd quickly clear something up, Il'gynoth's quote at 0:27 isn't referring to Sylvanas as she has died three times (thus far) in the lore. Her first death was to Arthas during his siege on Quel'Thalas. Her second death was after Arthas' death atop Icecrown Citadel after she committed suicide by jumping off the top of ICC. And finally her third death was during the Cataclysm version of the Silverpine Forest quest line at the hands of Lord Godfrey after he shot her.
"What pointless impudence! We share a master!" the way he says that, with the confusion in his voice, makes me doubt pretty much everything we've been lead to believe in wow.
Il'gynoth serves the Old Gods. They serve the Void. The Void consumes EVERYTHING, no matter what. Why would you bother resisting something that simply can't be stopped?
I don't think that it would be Azeroth or Thrall; Azeroth: It's a female titan so it can't be "he". Thrall: He just lost his shaman powers after he killed Garrosh at mak'gora in Nagrand in Warlords of Draenor (that cinematic where they fight).
Wrathion - Offers 3 cloaks. 3 Lies. Maybe the idea is that these cloaks are going to help save Azeroth from N'zoth but they may do quite the opposite ;)
You cannot possibly argue it's decent at this point. Sure, as a whole it's pretty cool, but when you zoom in on things, so much of it just doesn't work. Allied races for one.
Sunken Eyes pls explain. Not saying you're wrong but why is it you feel Allied races don't work? The quests to unlock them explain them joining fairly nicely I thought.
@@fellowhuman8682 Some of them are fine, but things like Void Elves and LFD fighting together? No. Void Elves have apparently mastered something even the titans don't understand. Wow. LFD are Light infused and entirely subservient to the Light, and as we know, the Light doesn't tolerate the Void. Why the hell aren't they killing anything that's even gone near shadow? Nightborne leader (can't remember her name) goes horde just cause Tyrande is a bitch to her. Never mind your Warchief is an undead abomination, and ofc don't worry about that goddess you used to worship that 100% exists. The whole thing just seems illogical to me. :
"To find him, drown yourself in the circle of stars" how amazing is that final part of Azshara raid is called "The Circle of Stars" shame we could not see more of N'zoth's prison and explore the area down below...
@@elsotanodelhorror810 I have a sinking feeling we are not yet done with the scheming god. or any of them really, I'll bet if you put your ear to the ground in pandaria you could still hear his voice.
Yes and no... Ill'gynoth serve the void in theory, an ennemy of death, an ennemy of the jailer (confirmed by the book in the tower of revendreth).. so what? Ill'gynoth IS a traitor?
@@blackbattle6167 nah ilgynoth predicted stuff that happened after nzoth deathe like tyralian being the new king of stormwind and that souls go to the maw
@@blackbattle6167 void predicted all of this, void try to stop the plan of jailer, so all of that time, we thought void is the true enemy, but death is the enemy of all, jailer is enemy of all, plan to destroy everything
@@uclongnguyen8860 guys i understand that, that's not the point of my question.. Ill'gynoth Said "5torches to light our pass" "master table" so his master is the jailer?or we will see N'Zoth return pretty soon?
@@blackbattle6167 n'zoth has already died for good by kameha, this whisper is like a vision of countless prediction of the void, and they are try to warn us
I fucking love the old gods. So mysterious, so dark and creepy. Plus with these whispers it leaves so much speculation and I love it when the community brings together ideas and theories as to what each whisper unlocks. I love this expansion.
Shame that they aren't even an invention of Blizzard but taken from Lovecraft's world - as a lot of modern authors, games and movies do so freely, so some tribute, honorable mention and respect to the master himself and his legacy would be nice of them...
@@jordanicaly1393 Lovecraft's Zoth Ommog (= Dweller in the Depth, Lord of the Abyss and Cthuluh's 3rd son) or Nyarlathotep (referenced by his City of Ny'alotha) seems most likely. C'thun = Cthuluh, Yogg Saron = Yogg Sothoth, etc. Some say Azeroth itself is reference to Azatoth, leader of the outer gods, beings so large they resemble planets. One of Blizzard's loremasters once named all the connections. If you ever read Lovecraft's work - and he is as important and known as Shakespeare, Poe, Hemingway and Sir Arthur Conan Doyle - you would immediately see it. You usually learn everything about those famous authors in English literature at school or university, and I'm not even English or American! 😳 That's why I'm surprised...
@@zsomborkiss7047 I got your back when the voice files are released! It'll be in the same manor as this video, his voice accompanied by some of Adrian von Ziegler's music.
"Oblivion offers solace, take the gift, take it" Quest to recieve the Heart of Azeroth artifact: "Magni Bronzebeard says: Azeroth calls tae ye, champion. She offers a gift... one born of her own essence. "
MrZurata I truly believe that N'zoth has Azeroth wrapped around his finger/tentacle. He hid while the other Old Gods died. He is very intelligent. What better way than to wait for us be gone and on Argus to attack?
"Welcome death. Do not fight it." "Release your grip on hope." Sylvannas has been going on about how death claims everyone for a long time and loves the idea of destroying hope and gets pissed when it prevails. Perhaps she's bound tighter by the Old Gods than she thinks...
No, no... listen carefully: I'llgynoth said "Welcome Death... with a capital D (xcript is wrong with the punctuation). Sylvanas said, "In the end, Death claims us all." Ill'gynoth: "We all share a *master*." Take a look at the cosmic chart, the position of the shadow, shadowlands and Death itself. Now think about where Medihv and Xal'atath went that was so concerning. This shit is spicy!
Coming back to this after years made me realise, this version of him was better voiced and actually acting like an Old God minion vs his 8.3 encounter were he and N'zoth felt like classic bad guys more then chaos incarnate.
"A presence, something new yet familiar yes." That's us going back in time during dragon flight seeing the black empire and all the old gods. But who's eyes are on us the most N'zoth.
Heard an insane theory on Reddit about one of his Wispers and this legit got recommanded the same day XD The theory is from u/PeanutBrigade and that "At the hour of her third death, she ushers in our coming" it's about Xal'atath. Her first death was when she got devoured by the others old gods. The second time when her power was used to cleanse the sword. Now the theory is thatshe wants us to defeat her (third death) to usher the voidlords and the midnight expansions happends. Go read it for yourself it's worth.
Khadgar: "Quick, we must use the pillars of creation we have!" Hero: "What about the sixth?" Khadgar: "No time, we have to deal with the legion, NOW!" Hero: "But.." Khadgar: "Trust me, we have FIVE titan super-weapons! What is the worst that could happen?"
Tungsten Wall There's 6 podiums, but if you look up the achievements it says "Collect the 5 pillars of Creation", with the 5th being the Eye of Aman'Thul. Maybe we'll find a 6th relic further on, but probably after the prison has been shattered.
I believe there are 6 pillars we just dont know the 6th. remember it was Magni who said 5 and it seems magni is following orders from the old gods. Maybe 6 is enough to close the portal and keep the old gods at bay but 5 might not be enough.
They are, Sargeras is actually their greatest champion. For the longest time it has been thought that N'Zoth clung to Sargeras's mind once the titans imprisoned him, the weakest of Old Gods but yet their strongest manipulator. Once we go to the Temple of Sargeras to try to close it with the Titan Relics... we will end up releasing him and he in turn will release his true masters. It is even said in lore that N'Zoth's prison was south of Suramar...where is the Tomb of Sargeras...
Uh, what? Where are you getting your information from? "Sargeras is actually their greatest champion" is just wrong, Sargeras created the Legion to fight the Void Lords and their creations not serve them. "For the longest time it has been thought that N'Zoth clung to Sargeras's mind once he imprisoned him" isn't even possible since Sargeras wasn't even there for that war and I have never once heard anyone say anything close to this "theory".
In some sense you are both right. I think that we all (Legion and Sargeras included) are more like unknowing pawns in their plans than their champions. Yes Sargeras made Legion to fight the Void Lord threat but that doesnt mean he's not vulnerable to Old Gods subtle manipulations. It almost happened once during War of the Ancients. It can happen again.
Tahrill Exactly, it is the simplistic fact that the most likely reason he truly became so corrupt, so utterly insane is due to the unseen taint of the ultimate manipulator, N'Zoth.
There is just something about Old Gods, isn't there? I mean yeah the scourge was spooky and horrid, the Legion is boo hoo we're gonna destroy everything because reasons, but these demons don't really make me feel anything, the expansion is cool, the music is great but the antagonist itself is just ok. Then are the old gods... which are just one big unknown, and the most scary part about it is just that, the mystery. What exactly is that pearl by the fish skeleton in Vashj'ir? What was that Whispering Forest fearie circle and that scary thing beneath Tirisfal that Blizz told us about (no longer a mystery though). All these whispers dating back to Cataclysm and 4.3 heralding the old god threat. C'thun and Yogg didn't really say anything important other than taunting us. These whispers and little tidbits of information resurface now and again. There was this puzzle box, bosses in Dragon Soul, then the Mantid and Y'shaarj, I don't remember anything from WoD because this whole xpack was pretty much a fanfic time travel filler bullshit. Now the vagina boss is creeping into our minds again, planting horrors there. It almost feels like Blizz has some grand plan that's been going on for years about the old god story to unfold. I love it. It is really creepy, the now knowing, the speculating, the WAITING, god the WAITING for something to happen about this whole old god thing. I know that Warcraft chronicles reveals that the void lords are the WoW's ultimate evil, but for me, personally, for now - Old Gods are the things that don't let me sleep, methaphorically speaking of course.
This, exactly! Have always been a bit infatuated with the Old Gods and I have thought since Legion was still in Beta that N'zoth would be the final boss of this xpac because of the Emerald Nightmare, certain quests, etc.
borek921 the legion exists solely to stop the void lords. They want to destroy creation so that life can reset and start over without the corruption of the old gods that the void lords sent out. That's the whole point of the burning crusades and annihilating world after world
"The lord of ravens will turn the key" Could that be Khadgar? the ravens are a symbol of either the guardian of tirisfal,or Atiesh,Khadgar wields Atiesh and can turn into a raven
I think it's Khadgar, and the key is the Pillars of Creation, he will use the pillars to close de portal in the Tomb and this will like, fuck Azeroth and release the Old Gods
***** what I think is that the tomb is not actually Sargeras' Think about it,the tomb is sealed by titan artifacts,the titan fought the old gods,but they were long dead when Aegwynn defeated the avatar of Sargeras,she couldn't have locked his corpse in here The tomb contains something else,maybe N'zoth? If "the king of diamonds has een made a pawn" maybe Magni was not hearing Azeroth telling him to retrive the pillars,but actually the old gods pretending to be azeroth. The pillars could actually be a key to release N'zoth "Five keys to open our way. Five torches to light our path." So,when Khadgar will try to seal the Legion's portal,"The lord of raven will turn the key",he'll actually release the old gods unknowingly,and we're part of it too unknowingly "We share a master!"
could the tomb harbor an old gold or be connected to one like n'zoth since we dont know his true placement in the world like we do with the rest ? fits in with the titan artifact having sealed it off and that the pillars have enough power to both close a portal of that strengh yet also grant the old god below enough strengh to break free and in the end destroy the chains on the rest ?
I know next to nothing about Warcraft but goddamn, the words of the old gods eerily match what I'm doing in my D&D campaign involving Tharizdun's coming.
osu! Aspire 2017 Hellblinde - The Solace of Oblivion 0:36 - 0:57 "From the earth, he draws strength. Our earth, Our strength. It's surface blazes bright, masking shadows below." 1:55 - 2:04 "Come, little ones, savor your fear as we feast upon it!" 2:59 - 3:02 scream drop, instrumental 2:38 - 2:50 "Welcome death, do not fight it. Release your grip on hope." drop 1:06 - 1:24 "Five keys to open our way.... Five torches to light our path. Flesh is his gift, he is your true creator" liquid dnb kinda[?] 2:50 - 2:59 "The pain of flesh is fleeting. True torment lasts forever." drop, instrumental, drop, outro Note: 2:17 "Oblivion offers solace. Take the gift! Take it!" This is why it's named The *Solace* of *Oblivion*
I hate how well Il'gynoth has built up N'zoth and the BfA lore so damn well only for the entire expansion to end with N'zoth getting oneshot by a kamehameha blast from the world's blood that has the mystical power of Plot Convenience Imagine if N'zoth actually won, killed all of us and that's how we end up in the Shadowlands. These prophecies would've had so much more weight to them
That's actually a theory going on right now, N'zoth dying was merely an illusion and while we are stuck in Shadowlands he is gradually corrupting Azeroth.
What the other guy said, it was over so fast that a lot of people believe N'zoth merely "played the part" of losing so we would leave for the Shadowlands. Il'gynoth is on his side so he would most likely already know the future should he do that. N'zoth was the weakest Old one. He made up for his weakness with cunning and deception, remember that? :)
It is possible the jailer was imprisoned for trying to summon the voidlords and that's why they see him as the betrayer and he sees them as the betrayers
@@benmccoy6417 I just hope they don't repeat the same illidan arc like "the jailer and sylvannas didn't do anything wrong we just didn't understand" like it happened with the burning legion
@@darksoul18 Nah, dont worry. The jailer's target is to get the biggest army. There is no way he's got a good purpose. He is evil 100%, but sylvannas is showing remorse
@@darksoul18 I think it's refering to Wrathion. As the son of the aspect of the earth, he surely has strong connection to it. Other that comes to my mind could be Thrall, but after the duel with Garrosh, he seems to have problems with continuing being a shaman.
This really makes the hair on the back of my neck stand on end. Great choice to have the music in the background, it really adds to the unsettling nature of this.
"At the hour of her third death, she ushers in our coming" It could reffer to Azeroth. First death, the cataclysm resulting for the war of the ancients 10000 years ago. Second death, the cataclysm caused by Deathwing And lastly the third death would be Azeroth being stabed by Sargeras? It could be also about sylvannas, but she has already die three times. Her first one in Artha's hands, the second one when she killed herself on ICC after Artha's defeat, and that time when Godfrey killed her...
its Alleria since shes got connection to the Void and the Corrupted Naaru inside her. She has even stated in game that she has felt like hes died twice. She still hasn't died a third time yet but the moment it happens The Void will be Coming!
At the end of the xpac we're gonna use the pillars and they are going to release N'zoth and then it's going to be Burning Legion x N'zoth x Azeroth's forces and then a Michael Bay movie
"Her heart is a crater and we have filled it" The Well of Eternity was a wound inflicted upon Azeroth's world-soul when Y'shaarj was plucked from the surface, and the life energies of the world-soul started to see out violently. The Titans sealed away the wound by creating the Well of Eternity, and then that was destroyed during the War of the Ancients... What if since then the Old Gods have been spilling their corruption into the rift to continually corrupt Azeroth without us even realizing it?
"A Presence, something new, yet. familiar, yes" That line is the most troubling to me... Edit: I get the feeling that would be Xal'atath Edit 4 years later: I get a new feeling, when in Dragonflight we go back to the Black Empire times, when we hear this line by N'Zoth "I... know you. What you were. What you will yet be." that is refencing this line
Not gonna lie, I stop by this once in a while to see if any more pieces of this cryptic puzzle has been assembled. Ilgynoth really was a masterpiece for WoW lore.
@@vigilantemandolorian5121 he is a piece of nzoth himself which nzoth planted into the emerald dream..so said he was the active corrupter of the emerald dream and xavius was his servant looking over it
Oooooh my. 1. Magni is now the "pawn" of Azeroth's world-soul or he connected to the Earth, Old Gods tricking him into believing their voice was the Titan's. 2. The 5 Pillars of Creation. (Old Gods could know it can open their prison, manipulating Magni into saying the key was in a book on Karazhan.) 3. Khadgar finding the book and unknowingly looking for and using the Pillars, falling into the Old God's plans.
Odyn is the lord of ravens. What's more interesting, at the end of Trials of Valor he goes off to Ulduar to visit his titan keeper cousins... Which, from the prequel even to Legion, is revealed to still be affected by faceless, so it stands to reason Odyn doesn't return from Ulduar entirely normal...
Explain how Odyn is the Lord of Ravens, please. I know Ulduar is still suffering from Faceless infestation, but I doubt the other Keepers are just going to say, "Meh, I have better things to do than watch this evil being my Creators told me to watch and put down with extreme prejudice after it left me indifferent to its machinations once."
"Explain how Odyn is the lord of Ravens", Thule? Have you even quested in Stormheim or read anything up on Norse Mythology even once? Khadgar and Odyn both make sense as a "Lord of Ravens" but it's likely Odyn.
I just noticed an awesome parallel between Arthas and sargeras. They both struggled against corruption and saw no other way to prevent it from further spreading other than to kill what was corrupted (I.e Arthas at stratholme, despite telling Jaina and uther there was no other way they didn't listen, much in the same regard Sargeras destroyed worlds in order to prevent the old gods from corrupting the souls within and returned to the pantheon who said more could've been done.) They both fell to corruption in such similar ways. I love that about the writing in this game.
Like the best boss comentary ever I just hope to see how every single thing he says ends up having sense in a way we didn't expected to, fulfill a prophecy we didn't know we were part of and so we doom ourselves as they always planed
'The King of Diamonds has been made a pawn' 'At the hour of her third death, she ushers in our coming' Those two lines being one after another... Damn. Why didn't I notice it sooner! The deaths was metaphorical! It really was Azshara it was talking about!
Malfurion is not dead, is he? Cenarius have died but not Furion. I see your point about Thrall, but I would say that Malfurion is far more important for this expansion.
Ok so I've complied a list of this guy's quotes and the multiple theories of their meanings I've found: "Flesh is his gift. He is your true creator." - Yogg'Saron spread the Curse of Flesh upon the Titan's creations, who eventually devolved into humans, dwarves, and gnomes. The curse was intended to "facilitate assimilation", AKA make the mortal races more easily bent to their will. "The king of diamonds has been made a pawn." - Most likely Magni Bronzebeard, after turning into diamond and presumed dead, it was revealed that the ritual causing is was was actually successful, and he became one with the Stone. He returned, claiming to serve the "Earthmother", Azeroth's World-Soul (an unborn Titan.) "The lord of ravens will turn the key." - Either Khadgar, Medivh, or Malfurion, who're all known to shape-shift into ravens. Or Kur'talos Ravencrest, the undead (ghost) night elf who died in the War of the Ancients and, during Legion, was temporally enslaved by the Legion. He also has the title "Lord." "The boy-king serves at the master's table. Three lies will he offer you." - Anduin is now a king, but also a priest (and cinnamon roll) so it would be interesting if he lied to you once, much less three times. Wrathion hasn't been mentioned since Warlords of Dreanor, and also has the title "Prince", not "King." But aside from him and Anduin I cannot recall anyone else fitting that description. "Her heart is a crater, and we have filled it." - Possibly the Maelstrom. When the titans ripped the Old God Y'Shaarj out of the earth, it not only created a huge crater but also wounded Azeroth's World-Soul, and it's blood filled the crater until it became the Well of Eternity. Also theorized to be Jaina, who's home, Theramore, was reduced to a crater by Garrosh's manabomb, but I believe Blizzard said Jaina would not be present in Legion. "Five keys to open our way. Five torches to light our path." - There are five Pillars of Creation. "At the hour of her third death, she will usher in our coming." - Often theorize to be Sylvanas, but she's died three times (Arthas, suicide, bullet to head.) Also considered is Elisande, who we fight three times because twice she uses the Nightwell to reverse time to when we first engaged her, her third attempt fails as the Nightwell can no longer sustain her, and she dies. "From the earth, he draws strength. Our earth. Our strength." - Either Thrall or Deathwing, both previously Earth-Warders. Honestly a lot of people, particularly shamans and druids, "draw strength from the earth," so it's hard to tell. "Its surface blazes bright, masking shadows below." - Elune (the moon), or maybe a Naaru? No idea. "To find him, drown yourself in the circle of stars." - N'Zoth is believed to be buried under Kalimdor, which the Titan's named "Land of Eternal Starlight." Again, no idea. --- And that's all I can think of. Any other theories? The last two were are especially a mystery to me.
"At the hour of her third death, she will usher in our coming" can also mean Azeroth. First, the Sundering. Then, the Cataclysm. And the third one will come probably soon. "The king of diamonds has been made a pawn" - What if Magni thought he heard Azeroth, but actually it was N'zoth, who told him to get the Pillars of Creation, which will be used to open the way for Old Gods?
+Maciej Maciejak I dont think that lines means azeroth since she encountered worse things than cataclysm and sundering and she basically isnt dead.Also if azeroth dies,we die and this wouldnt be a good ending.I think its sylwanas for sure
I think the second last line might even refer to the Dragon Soul? It wouldn't really make sense to, but seeing as the disc appeared to be something Neltharion would use for good but with its evil masked inside, I think it could possibly be a hint to it. The Old Gods *did* command him to make it, after all.
here's my theory based on his quotes azeroth isn't a titan (or not anymore at least) , it's actually n'zoth who tricked magni making him think that the pillars are used to banish the legion, but actually, it's the key to release the old gods from their prison the titans made the pillars to be keys for the prison, and khadgar will used them to open the cells
in planets there are world souls, azeroth has most powerfull one which has power to kill void lords, which is insane cause sargeras cant do shite about them, he cant even sense them but he knows that void lords want to corrupt this world soul and if they corrupt her it is end of everything and void lords win,thats why sargeras went burning legion shit cause he wants to stop void lords and their pawns/old gods so that everything willnt come to an end ... ikr it is crazy ... and those pillars i think they are made to do absolutely that
***** well to correct you :D azeroth doesnt have ONLY world soul,it is just most powerful one... what do you think why did sargeras go all burning legion shite?? cause when he found out why void lords sent old gods to corrupt the land on different planets,he instantly split the planet in half and when he came back to pantheon, they were not happy and told sargeras that they should have known about it first and then they would do something about it, cause of that sargeras didnt have much more faith in pantheon so he went back to marduum and when he opened the legion's prison's gate fel energy came runing out and it turned him into fire badass he is,and thats why he created legion to stop void lords from corrupting world souls and getting void lord powerfull minions... so thats why he will continue to invade azeroth cause if azeroth and old gods are continued to live then all life will be truly lost even sargeras will be puny grunt in front of azeroth WS, and if WS gets her body then... even void lords will die
Thing is, what has made the player character unique all these years is our ability to seemingly surpass death. You might think this is just a gameplay mechanic but even illidan comments on this in the dh starting area.
@@rudy1999 The king of diamonds has been made a pawn is also mentioned by Azshara during the fight. She uses our empowered Heart of Azeroth to weaken Nzoth prison. Magni unwittingly helped free Nzoth by making us empower that artifact. Aleria has a dialogue option in Stormwind where she says she feels like she metaphorically died 3 times already, and she also had the vision of herself falling to the void after witnessing some tragedy (my bet is that her husband/son dies).
4 years ago and some of these whispers are still coming true. Blizz had some serious planning ahead. I'm surprised almost none of this stuff got leaked before happening and there's still whispers that haven't come to pass yet
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Because I've seen it being mentioned a lot, more so since the launch of Shadowlands, I thought I'd quickly clear something up, Il'gynoth's quote at 0:27 isn't referring to Sylvanas as she has died three times (thus far) in the lore.
Her first death was to Arthas during his siege on Quel'Thalas.
Her second death was after Arthas' death atop Icecrown Citadel after she committed suicide by jumping off the top of ICC.
And finally her third death was during the Cataclysm version of the Silverpine Forest quest line at the hands of Lord Godfrey after he shot her.
It was Aszhara
It's referring to Azeroth. The Sundering(War of the Ancients), the Shattering (Cataclysm), and her third death was the sword in Silithis
@@joeblow3145 that doesn’t make any sense, why would we heal Azeroths wounds if she‘s already dead? Did you even play BfA?
How about Alleria? I heard she had died 2 times.
@@gilbertrewur7972 no
That's some 10/10 spooky shit, man!
And one sexy voice.
it is indeed
ikr? imma be a twilight member cuz of this.
_Listen Closely..._
Erik Haller I'm sure you could make it work, maybe if you just put a paper bag over his ...everything.
It'll work without a paper bag if you aren't a fucking coward :P
Jem Martinovich Wasn't saying I'd need a paper bag, lol.
"What pointless impudence! We share a master!" the way he says that, with the confusion in his voice, makes me doubt pretty much everything we've been lead to believe in wow.
We do share a master, we are affected by the curse of flesh
Il'gynoth serves the Old Gods. They serve the Void. The Void consumes EVERYTHING, no matter what. Why would you bother resisting something that simply can't be stopped?
as he said, for him N'zoth is our true creator, so yeah, indeed, by the same logic, for him we share a master.
Shhhhh, shhhhh. Just keep filling that heart of azeroth. Fill it up.
@@GniinG curse of flesh is yogg saron's doing
"From the earth.. he draws strength.."
"Our earth.."
"Our Strength.."
...*Looks to Thrall* ..Oh no..
It could also be Neltharion.
It's Magni.
or simply Azeroth^^'
I don't think that it would be Azeroth or Thrall;
Azeroth: It's a female titan so it can't be "he".
Thrall: He just lost his shaman powers after he killed Garrosh at mak'gora in Nagrand in Warlords of Draenor (that cinematic where they fight).
@Proxime Thrall lost all his powers, he doesn't even have Doomhammer.
Auduin : "I Vow we will recover Teldrassil before the war is over"
"Three lies will he offer you"
Wrathion - Offers 3 cloaks. 3 Lies. Maybe the idea is that these cloaks are going to help save Azeroth from N'zoth but they may do quite the opposite ;)
@@Tyrdormu It was Anduin not Wrathion. Wrathion is the a new presence but something familiar.
@@Tyrdormu Auduin is referred to as "the boy-king", so he is the one who will offer three lies.
@@crimsonblack4786 Our Earth Our Strength is prob wrathion
Connor DeJesus thrall
this is my ASMR video.
dead. :')
You have gay
Haha
Lol
oo a eldritch being whispering about prophecies is my favorite too
One of the best voices in World of Warcraft and definitely the most interesting and meaningful lines. I am so happy with Blizzard!
i prefer C'thun! Nothing has topped that Old God voice imo!
Il'gynoth made WoW lore great again.
Nope its still fucked
hey, wtf I'm sixteen and I think wow is fucking awesome when it comes to lore.
You cannot possibly argue it's decent at this point. Sure, as a whole it's pretty cool, but when you zoom in on things, so much of it just doesn't work. Allied races for one.
Sunken Eyes pls explain. Not saying you're wrong but why is it you feel Allied races don't work? The quests to unlock them explain them joining fairly nicely I thought.
@@fellowhuman8682 Some of them are fine, but things like Void Elves and LFD fighting together? No. Void Elves have apparently mastered something even the titans don't understand. Wow. LFD are Light infused and entirely subservient to the Light, and as we know, the Light doesn't tolerate the Void. Why the hell aren't they killing anything that's even gone near shadow? Nightborne leader (can't remember her name) goes horde just cause Tyrande is a bitch to her. Never mind your Warchief is an undead abomination, and ofc don't worry about that goddess you used to worship that 100% exists. The whole thing just seems illogical to me. :
"To find him, drown yourself in the circle of stars" how amazing is that final part of Azshara raid is called "The Circle of Stars" shame we could not see more of N'zoth's prison and explore the area down below...
Its surface blazes bright, masking shadows below. References to Pandaria, where the hearth of Y'Shaarj was buried within that chest.
This is my favourite quote because it sounds like one of those cryptic hints you'd hear in an old fantasy story or something.
yeah sad blizz did Nzith dirty
@@elsotanodelhorror810 I have a sinking feeling we are not yet done with the scheming god. or any of them really, I'll bet if you put your ear to the ground in pandaria you could still hear his voice.
@@generalnawaki Y'shaarj' heart died at the end of Siege of Orgrimmar after Garrosh was defeated. That old god is 100% dead.
Y'know what this thumbnail looks like?
Teldrassil burning.
wow
Looking good
@@МаксимЖуков-я2н very good.
They call it a "World Tree" for a reason. And as they've subtly (and blatantly too?) established, the Warcraft universe has a LOT of Mirrors in it.
"The Boy King serves at the master's table."
Makes sense now
Yes and no... Ill'gynoth serve the void in theory, an ennemy of death, an ennemy of the jailer (confirmed by the book in the tower of revendreth).. so what? Ill'gynoth IS a traitor?
@@blackbattle6167 nah ilgynoth predicted stuff that happened after nzoth deathe like tyralian being the new king of stormwind and that souls go to the maw
@@blackbattle6167 void predicted all of this, void try to stop the plan of jailer, so all of that time, we thought void is the true enemy, but death is the enemy of all, jailer is enemy of all, plan to destroy everything
@@uclongnguyen8860 guys i understand that, that's not the point of my question.. Ill'gynoth Said "5torches to light our pass" "master table" so his master is the jailer?or we will see N'Zoth return pretty soon?
@@blackbattle6167 n'zoth has already died for good by kameha, this whisper is like a vision of countless prediction of the void, and they are try to warn us
"It's surfaces blazes bright... masking shadows below." - Makes me think of the Radiant Song.
Its the Sunwell
I fucking love the old gods. So mysterious, so dark and creepy. Plus with these whispers it leaves so much speculation and I love it when the community brings together ideas and theories as to what each whisper unlocks. I love this expansion.
Shame that they aren't even an invention of Blizzard but taken from Lovecraft's world - as a lot of modern authors, games and movies do so freely, so some tribute, honorable mention and respect to the master himself and his legacy would be nice of them...
@@syroleelane2794Really What is N’Zoth from
@@jordanicaly1393 Lovecraft's Zoth Ommog (= Dweller in the Depth, Lord of the Abyss and Cthuluh's 3rd son) or Nyarlathotep (referenced by his City of Ny'alotha) seems most likely. C'thun = Cthuluh, Yogg Saron = Yogg Sothoth, etc. Some say Azeroth itself is reference to Azatoth, leader of the outer gods, beings so large they resemble planets. One of Blizzard's loremasters once named all the connections. If you ever read Lovecraft's work - and he is as important and known as Shakespeare, Poe, Hemingway and Sir Arthur Conan Doyle - you would immediately see it. You usually learn everything about those famous authors in English literature at school or university, and I'm not even English or American! 😳 That's why I'm surprised...
"It's surface blazes bright, masking shadow's below." Is the new neubian area in war within and the maybe the arathi crystal.
Il'gynoth is returning as a raid boss in patch 8.3! *If* I'm able to, expect a new Il'gynoth audio video some time in the future.
I was literally just thinking about if you would make a new one :D
@@zsomborkiss7047 I got your back when the voice files are released! It'll be in the same manor as this video, his voice accompanied by some of Adrian von Ziegler's music.
@@3DTyrant i literally came here after i read the new whispers lol
Noone seems to know the voice actor. Anyone?
@@morfea123 Crispin Freeman
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"Oblivion offers solace, take the gift, take it"
Quest to recieve the Heart of Azeroth artifact:
"Magni Bronzebeard says: Azeroth calls tae ye, champion. She offers a gift... one born of her own essence.
"
That is a raid reference when he is about to kill you....
I don't know why, but I think this is pretty relaxing
im listening to it daily lol
***** Same
N"zoth Asmr ??? Fuck that's nasty plan to corrupt everybody.
I put in on loop while playing another game. It IS relaxing
I don't think that constantly hearing "you have failed those who needed you" will be good for your mental health bruh
I want to get off the Nzoth's wild ride
No worries, you can get off on the next stop,
Ny'alotha....
Once in.....never out...
Who would want to leave Ny'alotha, once there?
One day I, too, will journey into the depths and join my ancestors by the throne of N'zoth.
N'Zoth my boi
MrZurata I truly believe that N'zoth has Azeroth wrapped around his finger/tentacle. He hid while the other Old Gods died. He is very intelligent. What better way than to wait for us be gone and on Argus to attack?
I come every time he says "N'zoth... I journey... to Ny'alotha"
He sounds so badass, especially when he says "from the earth, he draws strength. Our earth... OUR STRENGTH
Iridikron.....
Or Magni Bronzebeard?
"Welcome death. Do not fight it."
"Release your grip on hope."
Sylvannas has been going on about how death claims everyone for a long time and loves the idea of destroying hope and gets pissed when it prevails. Perhaps she's bound tighter by the Old Gods than she thinks...
Phoenix old gods fear undead
"Her heart is a crater, and we have filled it"
Nope,she serves literal hades
No, no... listen carefully: I'llgynoth said "Welcome Death... with a capital D (xcript is wrong with the punctuation). Sylvanas said, "In the end, Death claims us all." Ill'gynoth: "We all share a *master*." Take a look at the cosmic chart, the position of the shadow, shadowlands and Death itself. Now think about where Medihv and Xal'atath went that was so concerning. This shit is spicy!
And now the Jailer wants to free Death.
Il'gynoth has such an epic voice.
Coming back to this after years made me realise, this version of him was better voiced and actually acting like an Old God minion vs his 8.3 encounter were he and N'zoth felt like classic bad guys more then chaos incarnate.
You are right. Now i am summoning you here
In patch 9.0.5 they added a friendly Boss NPC roaming around Oribos called "Watchful Raven".
"The lord of ravens will turn the key."
It's happening.
Khadgar?
Watchful Raven makes me think of Odyn, actually. We know he's no good guy given Helya's lore.
"A presence, something new yet familiar yes." That's us going back in time during dragon flight seeing the black empire and all the old gods. But who's eyes are on us the most N'zoth.
Five keys to open our way? is he talking about the pillars of creation?
Most likely, yes. Though we don't have access to the Eye of Aman'Thul, so we'll have to wait to see what comes of the story about it.
Are there not six Pillars?
oh shit we are freeing the old gods! and that means bronzbeeard is corrupted becouse he told us to get the pillars to save azeroth
does "the king of diamonds, has been made a pawn" say something to you?
Magni is a pawn
Heard an insane theory on Reddit about one of his Wispers and this legit got recommanded the same day XD
The theory is from u/PeanutBrigade and that "At the hour of her third death, she ushers in our coming" it's about Xal'atath. Her first death was when she got devoured by the others old gods. The second time when her power was used to cleanse the sword. Now the theory is thatshe wants us to defeat her (third death) to usher the voidlords and the midnight expansions happends.
Go read it for yourself it's worth.
Could also very well be alleria.
"A pressence, something new, yet familiar. Yes." - Clearly refering to Wrathion who's been confirmed as a boss for the new raid.
Khadgar: "Quick, we must use the pillars of creation we have!"
Hero: "What about the sixth?"
Khadgar: "No time, we have to deal with the legion, NOW!"
Hero: "But.."
Khadgar: "Trust me, we have FIVE titan super-weapons! What is the worst that could happen?"
There's only 5 though.
Ah. Need to put a potted plant in that 6th corner.
Tungsten Wall There's 6 podiums, but if you look up the achievements it says "Collect the 5 pillars of Creation", with the 5th being the Eye of Aman'Thul. Maybe we'll find a 6th relic further on, but probably after the prison has been shattered.
I believe there are 6 pillars we just dont know the 6th. remember it was Magni who said 5 and it seems magni is following orders from the old gods. Maybe 6 is enough to close the portal and keep the old gods at bay but 5 might not be enough.
There is no 6th pillar, the 6th slot is for the tear of elune.
People be sleeping on Emerald Nightmare - one of the best first tier raids this game has had.
I love the "Still you fight? Still you refuse the gift?" part
Absolutely amazing to look at those quotes and all the events happening in the current timeline. "Take the gift." Shit's about to get real lorewise.
By far the most interesting boss from wow. So much speculation that is mindblowing. That is what players want
So...I think this means the Old Gods are coming back....
fuck
They are, Sargeras is actually their greatest champion. For the longest time it has been thought that N'Zoth clung to Sargeras's mind once the titans imprisoned him, the weakest of Old Gods but yet their strongest manipulator. Once we go to the Temple of Sargeras to try to close it with the Titan Relics... we will end up releasing him and he in turn will release his true masters. It is even said in lore that N'Zoth's prison was south of Suramar...where is the Tomb of Sargeras...
Uh, what? Where are you getting your information from? "Sargeras is actually their greatest champion" is just wrong, Sargeras created the Legion to fight the Void Lords and their creations not serve them. "For the longest time it has been thought that N'Zoth clung to Sargeras's mind once he imprisoned him" isn't even possible since Sargeras wasn't even there for that war and I have never once heard anyone say anything close to this "theory".
In some sense you are both right. I think that we all (Legion and Sargeras included) are more like unknowing pawns in their plans than their champions. Yes Sargeras made Legion to fight the Void Lord threat but that doesnt mean he's not vulnerable to Old Gods subtle manipulations. It almost happened once during War of the Ancients. It can happen again.
Tahrill Exactly, it is the simplistic fact that the most likely reason he truly became so corrupt, so utterly insane is due to the unseen taint of the ultimate manipulator, N'Zoth.
I know next to nothing about this vast lore, so reading the lore from you guys has me interested
It's surface blazes bright, masking shadows below.
It's not the only hint not to trust Xe'ra.
Oh my god I've never thought about that, the enlightenment!
That could just be a reference of the fact that when a naaru dies it becomes a Void God, doesn't mean X'era isn't trustworthy.
Xe'ra is a little suspicious...
A bright star turns into a black hole at the end of the it's life. Sounds familiar :P
I'd say it's Azeroth.
There is just something about Old Gods, isn't there? I mean yeah the scourge was spooky and horrid, the Legion is boo hoo we're gonna destroy everything because reasons, but these demons don't really make me feel anything, the expansion is cool, the music is great but the antagonist itself is just ok.
Then are the old gods... which are just one big unknown, and the most scary part about it is just that, the mystery. What exactly is that pearl by the fish skeleton in Vashj'ir? What was that Whispering Forest fearie circle and that scary thing beneath Tirisfal that Blizz told us about (no longer a mystery though). All these whispers dating back to Cataclysm and 4.3 heralding the old god threat. C'thun and Yogg didn't really say anything important other than taunting us. These whispers and little tidbits of information resurface now and again. There was this puzzle box, bosses in Dragon Soul, then the Mantid and Y'shaarj, I don't remember anything from WoD because this whole xpack was pretty much a fanfic time travel filler bullshit. Now the vagina boss is creeping into our minds again, planting horrors there. It almost feels like Blizz has some grand plan that's been going on for years about the old god story to unfold. I love it.
It is really creepy, the now knowing, the speculating, the WAITING, god the WAITING for something to happen about this whole old god thing. I know that Warcraft chronicles reveals that the void lords are the WoW's ultimate evil, but for me, personally, for now - Old Gods are the things that don't let me sleep, methaphorically speaking of course.
This, exactly! Have always been a bit infatuated with the Old Gods and I have thought since Legion was still in Beta that N'zoth would be the final boss of this xpac because of the Emerald Nightmare, certain quests, etc.
But the old gods are just servants of the void lords and we know exactly what they want to do.
Don't forget about Xal'Atath, giving cryptic warnings and speaking of the last prison weakening and how "we must prepare."
borek921 the legion exists solely to stop the void lords. They want to destroy creation so that life can reset and start over without the corruption of the old gods that the void lords sent out. That's the whole point of the burning crusades and annihilating world after world
sounds like reused/recycled SC2 storyline. i hate how these storylines became so much alike
Wow, the voice actor did a fantastic job!
Apparently its Crispin Freeman. Dudes voice acting royalty.
"The lord of ravens will turn the key"
Could that be Khadgar? the ravens are a symbol of either the guardian of tirisfal,or Atiesh,Khadgar wields Atiesh and can turn into a raven
or it could be medivh
i think it's kurtalos Ravencrest
I think it's Khadgar, and the key is the Pillars of Creation, he will use the pillars to close de portal in the Tomb and this will like, fuck Azeroth and release the Old Gods
***** what I think is that the tomb is not actually Sargeras'
Think about it,the tomb is sealed by titan artifacts,the titan fought the old gods,but they were long dead when Aegwynn defeated the avatar of Sargeras,she couldn't have locked his corpse in here
The tomb contains something else,maybe N'zoth?
If "the king of diamonds has een made a pawn" maybe Magni was not hearing Azeroth telling him to retrive the pillars,but actually the old gods pretending to be azeroth.
The pillars could actually be a key to release N'zoth "Five keys to open our way. Five torches to light our path."
So,when Khadgar will try to seal the Legion's portal,"The lord of raven will turn the key",he'll actually release the old gods unknowingly,and we're part of it too unknowingly "We share a master!"
could the tomb harbor an old gold or be connected to one like n'zoth since we dont know his true placement in the world like we do with the rest ? fits in with the titan artifact having sealed it off and that the pillars have enough power to both close a portal of that strengh yet also grant the old god below enough strengh to break free and in the end destroy the chains on the rest ?
Mystery is the greatest fear of every mortal, not knowing what the future holds not knowing the enemy's strength but knowing they are to be feared
It mentions Thrall, Jaina, Sylvanaas and Anduin...The four characters that were announced to have side stories in Battle for Azeroth.
And Magni
Cear Farseer lord of the ravens? Medivh?
Crater part was Azshara, not Jaina.
@@strider8662 crater part is azeroth it self the our of het third death is reffering to azshara
Sylvanas is not the third death, is either Azeroth or metaphorically Jaina
I know next to nothing about Warcraft but goddamn, the words of the old gods eerily match what I'm doing in my D&D campaign involving Tharizdun's coming.
Dude. That's so crazy that Il'gynoth tries to tell you how hope is nothing but a burden.
His voice always makes me shiver when entering the boss room. So spooky and nice, love this boss.
Especially the "Out! Out!" part
The King of diamonds is probably Magni and by pawn the whispers he hears who he believe is from Azeroth itself is probably from N'zoth
You know after staring at that picture for so long I cannot unsee the big goofy Monsters Inc. looking smile in the middle of the tree
I fucking love this stuff. I hope the next expansion has more of this cryptic love craftian stuff for us to decipher.
Oh you know why you’re here ;)
Wut
3:34 when you've had too much to drink at a party and tell your friend that you're going home
The ending quote is what really makes my skin crawl.
This voice and music makes me sleep much better.
osu! Aspire 2017
Hellblinde - The Solace of Oblivion
0:36 - 0:57 "From the earth, he draws strength. Our earth, Our strength. It's surface blazes bright, masking shadows below."
1:55 - 2:04 "Come, little ones, savor your fear as we feast upon it!"
2:59 - 3:02 scream
drop, instrumental
2:38 - 2:50 "Welcome death, do not fight it. Release your grip on hope."
drop
1:06 - 1:24 "Five keys to open our way.... Five torches to light our path. Flesh is his gift, he is your true creator"
liquid dnb kinda[?]
2:50 - 2:59 "The pain of flesh is fleeting. True torment lasts forever."
drop, instrumental, drop, outro
Note:
2:17 "Oblivion offers solace. Take the gift! Take it!" This is why it's named The *Solace* of *Oblivion*
"King of diamonds has been made a pawn" and "From the Earth he draw strenght, our earth our strenght" ..... Magni the servant of the God of the Deep !
He thinks the voice talking to him is Azeroth, but it's actually N'Zoth, I don't think he's been corrupted, he's just being duped.
I think the second quote is about Malfurion. Could be Thrall, but he lost his powers so..
Maicol, I didn't know Malfurion and Thrall are now transgender :P
Second quote I think talks about Thrall and implies his corruption
I hate how well Il'gynoth has built up N'zoth and the BfA lore so damn well only for the entire expansion to end with N'zoth getting oneshot by a kamehameha blast from the world's blood that has the mystical power of Plot Convenience
Imagine if N'zoth actually won, killed all of us and that's how we end up in the Shadowlands. These prophecies would've had so much more weight to them
That's actually a theory going on right now, N'zoth dying was merely an illusion and while we are stuck in Shadowlands he is gradually corrupting Azeroth.
What the other guy said, it was over so fast that a lot of people believe N'zoth merely "played the part" of losing so we would leave for the Shadowlands. Il'gynoth is on his side so he would most likely already know the future should he do that. N'zoth was the weakest Old one. He made up for his weakness with cunning and deception, remember that? :)
"The Boy King serves at the master's table."
From the earth he draws strength, our earth our strength,. The jailer needs the souls that comes from azeroth (earth)
It is possible the jailer was imprisoned for trying to summon the voidlords and that's why they see him as the betrayer and he sees them as the betrayers
@@benmccoy6417 I just hope they don't repeat the same illidan arc like "the jailer and sylvannas didn't do anything wrong we just didn't understand" like it happened with the burning legion
@@darksoul18 Nah, dont worry. The jailer's target is to get the biggest army. There is no way he's got a good purpose. He is evil 100%, but sylvannas is showing remorse
@@darksoul18 I think it's refering to Wrathion. As the son of the aspect of the earth, he surely has strong connection to it. Other that comes to my mind could be Thrall, but after the duel with Garrosh, he seems to have problems with continuing being a shaman.
This really makes the hair on the back of my neck stand on end. Great choice to have the music in the background, it really adds to the unsettling nature of this.
I could listen to these sweet soulful whispers all day.
Oh yes, i can't wait them to rise fron their endless tombs and bring chaos back into this ignorant mortal world!
this must be
I know right! I am so hyped about this too!
No but seriously my friend...you do know you will be part of those who will die, right?
N'Zoth uhm? See you in ny'alotha...
Aron Johansson will be there.
...actually I have nowhere else to go since I cannot move
N'Zoth MASTER! INVOLVE ME! WHAT ARE U PLANNING TO DO?
"At the hour of her third death, she ushers in our coming"
It could reffer to Azeroth.
First death, the cataclysm resulting for the war of the ancients 10000 years ago.
Second death, the cataclysm caused by Deathwing
And lastly the third death would be Azeroth being stabed by Sargeras?
It could be also about sylvannas, but she has already die three times. Her first one in Artha's hands, the second one when she killed herself on ICC after Artha's defeat, and that time when Godfrey killed her...
its Alleria since shes got connection to the Void and the Corrupted Naaru inside her. She has even stated in game that she has felt like hes died twice. She still hasn't died a third time yet but the moment it happens The Void will be Coming!
“you have failed those who needed you” made me feel like I was losing the whole time
*reads the descriction*
Holy crap, Adrian is in this video. Adrian is an outstanding musician.
That's why I chose one of his tracks, he's one hell of an amazing musician.
Definitely
At the end of the xpac we're gonna use the pillars and they are going to release N'zoth and then it's going to be Burning Legion x N'zoth x Azeroth's forces and then a Michael Bay movie
And then sargeras and the void lords appear
metzen will be the last boss... mark my words
The last raid will be to storm Blizzard.
a raid on blizzard Hq at Irvine ???
could be really epic, with mike morhaime as last boss, he will summon the L??ETC.
You're not far off, pillars will end legion but Mr. N'zoth will ravage Azeroth at the same moment.
"Her heart is a crater and we have filled it"
The Well of Eternity was a wound inflicted upon Azeroth's world-soul when Y'shaarj was plucked from the surface, and the life energies of the world-soul started to see out violently. The Titans sealed away the wound by creating the Well of Eternity, and then that was destroyed during the War of the Ancients...
What if since then the Old Gods have been spilling their corruption into the rift to continually corrupt Azeroth without us even realizing it?
Or it's Jaina. Dreadlord confirmed.
I'm not saying that it's Dreadlords, but it's probably Dreadlords.
Kala Ta she's the missing old God
Il'gynoth did it again making lore again. "Five keys to open our way, five torches to light our path."
It's come full circle with the last whisper from Emerald nightmare
@@Silentshadow1177what was the last whisper?
@@dend1 "N'zoth I journey to Ny'alotha." As for after the torches it is "Flesh is his gift. He is your true creator."
"A Presence, something new, yet. familiar, yes" That line is the most troubling to me...
Edit: I get the feeling that would be Xal'atath
Edit 4 years later: I get a new feeling, when in Dragonflight we go back to the Black Empire times, when we hear this line by N'Zoth "I... know you. What you were. What you will yet be." that is refencing this line
SoddyWrath agreed - Xal’atath
It's G'huun it has to be. It's not an old god but it is. It's new, yet familiar.
Wrathion is that one
For the last 2 days i have this on constant repeat. I don't know why but somehow this is very comforting
Oh god it’s corrupting you
Not gonna lie, I stop by this once in a while to see if any more pieces of this cryptic puzzle has been assembled.
Ilgynoth really was a masterpiece for WoW lore.
Im... confused... who is this, its not n'zoth or any of the other old gods... is he one of their masters?
@@celica9288 nop, he is in fact just a boss in Emerald Nightmare. He is a nobody, yet tied up to the old gods still. A prophet if you will
He is a Servent of N Zoth
@@vigilantemandolorian5121 he is a piece of nzoth himself which nzoth planted into the emerald dream..so said he was the active corrupter of the emerald dream and xavius was his servant looking over it
That was golden age for wow theorists
"King of diamonds made a pawn"
"5 torches to light our path"
"The Raven lord will turn the key...."
We're fucked, aren't we?
Oooooh my.
1. Magni is now the "pawn" of Azeroth's world-soul or he connected to the Earth, Old Gods tricking him into believing their voice was the Titan's.
2. The 5 Pillars of Creation. (Old Gods could know it can open their prison, manipulating Magni into saying the key was in a book on Karazhan.)
3. Khadgar finding the book and unknowingly looking for and using the Pillars, falling into the Old God's plans.
Odyn is the lord of ravens. What's more interesting, at the end of Trials of Valor he goes off to Ulduar to visit his titan keeper cousins... Which, from the prequel even to Legion, is revealed to still be affected by faceless, so it stands to reason Odyn doesn't return from Ulduar entirely normal...
Explain how Odyn is the Lord of Ravens, please. I know Ulduar is still suffering from Faceless infestation, but I doubt the other Keepers are just going to say, "Meh, I have better things to do than watch this evil being my Creators told me to watch and put down with extreme prejudice after it left me indifferent to its machinations once."
"Explain how Odyn is the lord of Ravens", Thule? Have you even quested in Stormheim or read anything up on Norse Mythology even once? Khadgar and Odyn both make sense as a "Lord of Ravens" but it's likely Odyn.
gcircle King of diamonds made a pawn..... Magni!
why do i like listening to this so much
I just noticed an awesome parallel between Arthas and sargeras. They both struggled against corruption and saw no other way to prevent it from further spreading other than to kill what was corrupted (I.e Arthas at stratholme, despite telling Jaina and uther there was no other way they didn't listen, much in the same regard Sargeras destroyed worlds in order to prevent the old gods from corrupting the souls within and returned to the pantheon who said more could've been done.) They both fell to corruption in such similar ways. I love that about the writing in this game.
Like the best boss comentary ever
I just hope to see how every single thing he says ends up having sense in a way we didn't expected to, fulfill a prophecy we didn't know we were part of and so we doom ourselves as they always planed
'The King of Diamonds has been made a pawn'
'At the hour of her third death, she ushers in our coming'
Those two lines being one after another... Damn. Why didn't I notice it sooner! The deaths was metaphorical! It really was Azshara it was talking about!
This makes so much sense now
N'Zoth : "Voidamm it! stop spoiling my plan!!"
We arrived to your words finally Il'gynoth, at Shadowlands... The boy king serves already..
From the earth...he draws strength.... OUR earth...OUR strength
Could he be referring to thrall?
MIND BLOWN
couldn't he be reffering to Malfurion?
something dead can't draw strength from the earth
and malfurion is pretty DEAD...
Malfurion is not dead, is he? Cenarius have died but not Furion. I see your point about Thrall, but I would say that Malfurion is far more important for this expansion.
They should've made Il'Gynoth an Old God, or bring him back as one...he deserves a promotion!
at this point I want him to just be a piece of the Void Lord or rules all Old Gods and his voice is the Leader its been insane!!!!!!!!!
he could be a forgotten one
Ok so I've complied a list of this guy's quotes and the multiple theories of their meanings I've found:
"Flesh is his gift. He is your true creator." - Yogg'Saron spread the Curse of Flesh upon the Titan's creations, who eventually devolved into humans, dwarves, and gnomes. The curse was intended to "facilitate assimilation", AKA make the mortal races more easily bent to their will.
"The king of diamonds has been made a pawn." - Most likely Magni Bronzebeard, after turning into diamond and presumed dead, it was revealed that the ritual causing is was was actually successful, and he became one with the Stone. He returned, claiming to serve the "Earthmother", Azeroth's World-Soul (an unborn Titan.)
"The lord of ravens will turn the key." - Either Khadgar, Medivh, or Malfurion, who're all known to shape-shift into ravens. Or Kur'talos Ravencrest, the undead (ghost) night elf who died in the War of the Ancients and, during Legion, was temporally enslaved by the Legion. He also has the title "Lord."
"The boy-king serves at the master's table. Three lies will he offer you." - Anduin is now a king, but also a priest (and cinnamon roll) so it would be interesting if he lied to you once, much less three times. Wrathion hasn't been mentioned since Warlords of Dreanor, and also has the title "Prince", not "King." But aside from him and Anduin I cannot recall anyone else fitting that description.
"Her heart is a crater, and we have filled it." - Possibly the Maelstrom. When the titans ripped the Old God Y'Shaarj out of the earth, it not only created a huge crater but also wounded Azeroth's World-Soul, and it's blood filled the crater until it became the Well of Eternity. Also theorized to be Jaina, who's home, Theramore, was reduced to a crater by Garrosh's manabomb, but I believe Blizzard said Jaina would not be present in Legion.
"Five keys to open our way. Five torches to light our path." - There are five Pillars of Creation.
"At the hour of her third death, she will usher in our coming." - Often theorize to be Sylvanas, but she's died three times (Arthas, suicide, bullet to head.) Also considered is Elisande, who we fight three times because twice she uses the Nightwell to reverse time to when we first engaged her, her third attempt fails as the Nightwell can no longer sustain her, and she dies.
"From the earth, he draws strength. Our earth. Our strength." - Either Thrall or Deathwing, both previously Earth-Warders. Honestly a lot of people, particularly shamans and druids, "draw strength from the earth," so it's hard to tell.
"Its surface blazes bright, masking shadows below." - Elune (the moon), or maybe a Naaru? No idea.
"To find him, drown yourself in the circle of stars." - N'Zoth is believed to be buried under Kalimdor, which the Titan's named "Land of Eternal Starlight." Again, no idea.
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And that's all I can think of. Any other theories? The last two were are especially a mystery to me.
Jem Martinovich "her hearth is a crater and we have filled it" is more likely azshara she wanted more power and old gods answer her
"At the hour of her third death, she will usher in our coming" can also mean Azeroth. First, the Sundering. Then, the Cataclysm. And the third one will come probably soon.
"The king of diamonds has been made a pawn" - What if Magni thought he heard Azeroth, but actually it was N'zoth, who told him to get the Pillars of Creation, which will be used to open the way for Old Gods?
+Maciej Maciejak I dont think that lines means azeroth since she encountered worse things than cataclysm and sundering and she basically isnt dead.Also if azeroth dies,we die and this wouldnt be a good ending.I think its sylwanas for sure
Jem Martinovich lord of ravens is most likely Odyn since he has two ravens that serve him
I think the second last line might even refer to the Dragon Soul? It wouldn't really make sense to, but seeing as the disc appeared to be something Neltharion would use for good but with its evil masked inside, I think it could possibly be a hint to it. The Old Gods *did* command him to make it, after all.
cold chill down my spine at "Oblivion offers solace" combines so well with the music
here's my theory based on his quotes
azeroth isn't a titan (or not anymore at least) , it's actually n'zoth who tricked magni making him think that the pillars are used to banish the legion, but actually, it's the key to release the old gods from their prison
the titans made the pillars to be keys for the prison, and khadgar will used them to open the cells
malthazar555 woah my dude
Wow... best theory so far. Going to say I agree with you.
in planets there are world souls, azeroth has most powerfull one which has power to kill void lords, which is insane cause sargeras cant do shite about them, he cant even sense them but he knows that void lords want to corrupt this world soul and if they corrupt her it is end of everything and void lords win,thats why sargeras went burning legion shit cause he wants to stop void lords and their pawns/old gods so that everything willnt come to an end ... ikr it is crazy ... and those pillars i think they are made to do absolutely that
One thing is for sure the ending of this expansion will be interesting according to what il'gynoth said.
***** well to correct you :D azeroth doesnt have ONLY world soul,it is just most powerful one... what do you think why did sargeras go all burning legion shite?? cause when he found out why void lords sent old gods to corrupt the land on different planets,he instantly split the planet in half and when he came back to pantheon, they were not happy and told sargeras that they should have known about it first and then they would do something about it, cause of that sargeras didnt have much more faith in pantheon so he went back to marduum and when he opened the legion's prison's gate fel energy came runing out and it turned him into fire badass he is,and thats why he created legion to stop void lords from corrupting world souls and getting void lord powerfull minions... so thats why he will continue to invade azeroth cause if azeroth and old gods are continued to live then all life will be truly lost even sargeras will be puny grunt in front of azeroth WS, and if WS gets her body then... even void lords will die
I wonder if "From the earth, he draws strength. Our earth. Our strength." relates to Iridikron allying himself with the void in the new mega dungeon🤔
"Oblivion offers solace. Take it, ta-
Have you heard of the High Elves?"
@@jamiehughes5573 By order of the Jarl stop right there. You have committed crimes against Skyrim and her people, what say you in your defense?
And now he does funky lifesteal.
Thanks Hearthstone.
Thing is, what has made the player character unique all these years is our ability to seemingly surpass death. You might think this is just a gameplay mechanic but even illidan comments on this in the dh starting area.
oh boy i came back here after 9.1 cinematic holy moly
“The king of diamonds has been made a pawn”
We empowered our heart of azeroth only to help freeing N’zoth during azshara fight.
0:14 "her heart is a crater, and we have filled it"
is he speaking about the titan within azeroth?
I think he talks about Azeroth. The heart being the Maelstrom.
@PersonaX fuck jaina, why would the old gods care about her
I thought that too but it is actually Tyrande
To imagine Il'gynoth voice lines contained so much info about BfA, damn it really feels like everything is coming together now
Can you write down the meaning in BfA of some of his words? I really don't understand most of them
@@rudy1999 "To find him, drowning yourself in the circle of stars."
The Circle of Stars is the final wing of The Eternal Palace raid.
@@rudy1999 The king of diamonds has been made a pawn is also mentioned by Azshara during the fight. She uses our empowered Heart of Azeroth to weaken Nzoth prison. Magni unwittingly helped free Nzoth by making us empower that artifact.
Aleria has a dialogue option in Stormwind where she says she feels like she metaphorically died 3 times already, and she also had the vision of herself falling to the void after witnessing some tragedy (my bet is that her husband/son dies).
Awesome vid with awesome backround pic and awesome backround music. Cheers!
For everyone looking at the "We share a master!" line. Just remember that it was unused. So the canonical value of it is quite low.
hhmmm after the patch 9.1 cinematic with anduin becoming something like Lich king ! his whispers seem even more related to this expansion than bfa
Man i relly hope blizzard doesn't fuck this up and give us lame reveals
Here to drown my sorrows after the devastating ending to this beautiful but not made right by story.
I thank you this is so good to listne too it makes me at peace
1:07 "five keys to open our way"
Jailer reference?
The Sigils
@@thundersuffer4159 yep totally forgot about that
Pillars of Creation
Why did this feel more terrifying than N'zoth?
After every cinematic i come back here "the long circle is nearly complete"
Saurfang"i want to break the circle"
The One Saurfang said cycle, not circle.
@@GranitWall cycle of hatered=circle of hatered
The One no you’re trying too hard to make a connection there.
4 years ago and some of these whispers are still coming true. Blizz had some serious planning ahead. I'm surprised almost none of this stuff got leaked before happening and there's still whispers that haven't come to pass yet
Kinda feels like Il'Gynoth should've been the last Old God. His voice and his ominous words are unsettling in a calm manner.
...Is that?
"Come, little ones,"
Yup, that's Crispin Freeman.
Was getting serious Alucard vibes. Now I know why...