It's amazing how one of his quotes only makes sense until now. I remember there being speculations and expectations that all the things he said would happen during Legion or even in BfA, but for all we know some of these quotes we're trying to make sense of won't appear until after Shadowlands or the expansion after that expansion. Such as the king of diamonds being made a pawn feels pretty obvious it's hinting at Magni, likely being tricked by Azeroth's voice. Lots speculated we'd see it take fruit in BfA but I think it's clear that it's still taking place and we've yet to see Magni having been tricked, which will hold way more weight when it happens (his death probably). For all we know all that we've done, which we thought was freeing Azeroth, is actually to deepen the corruption and they've been singing through her. The same goes for the boy-king one obviously about Anduin but the three lies aren't very clear yet, it feels more that the Old Gods or Void will seek him out. And "on her third death, she will usher in our coming" I doubt we've seen yet no matter how much we try to speculate, I doubt it had to do with N'zoth's arrival and "usher in our coming" likely means all Old Gods returning or even the Void itself in the future. There's still more that you could kinda piece together but aren't as clear as the "golden one" is now and I feel it just means they're prophecies yet to take place in the future. If that's the case, then the foreshadowing is crazy and this is the most incredible boss in the game!
Something to keep in mind is that the force of void see every possibility and take them all as truth. To put it into plain terms, il'gynoth can simply see a bunch of what ifs and it doesn't necessarily mean they will come to pass.
@@Pinji707 I was and still sad that the game doesn't pull me that much in anymore. I've waited for Azshara for years. And I did defeat her, but was basically carried by my guild. What I was amazed about it that Azshara is one of the few bosses that you fight, but you end up being defeated. Yes, you kinda kill her, which has no meaning in this game, but she does indeed execute her plans for you to free N'zoth. And and best and worst part was that I definitely noticed the problem with that content. Namely that the resistance the nagas offer is pretty much nonexistent. I just chalked up for WoW being worse than it was before. And then it turned out that it was deliberate. Either way my biggest gripe with Shadowlands at the moment that it just doesn't fit into everything else so far.
The golden one is Turalyon. The throne was left vacant when Anduin was taken by the Jailer and Turalyon is now serving as steward, literally sitting on the throne.
@@mmoarchives2542 I think expansions will come as long as it has a player base. But...I really want to play it like old times but I can't. I log in, I start doing stuff and start feeling as if I've just downloaded any random MMO from the market.
I mean, he is a fragment of N'zoth, they could easily just bring him back as a remaining part of N'zoths corruption kinda like how they had the Sha's of Y'Shraaj (if I murdered his name sorry lol) he deserves to have a Xpack for him..hell he could be like G'Huun he could evolve into an old god
Void invaded shadowlands at some point as we have seen thru gameplay right now,Maybe later patch will bring void invasions and illgynoth will return! I mean he even states All you witness is my flesh, that basicaly means he is much more, entity of void energy, thus cannot be destroyed atleast in physical plane.
those fuckers sure tricked everyone. Even the void lords. At this point, I'm still curious about how they're connected to so many big names throughout the warcraft universe. Hopefully, Venthyr can explain more about their origin.
@@manip1980 would not suprise me if the void lords is just taking advantage of the infiltration. ithe letter says that the void lords knows about the plans of the dread lords and so did ilgynoth with this prophecy.
0:00 "Before the last shadow falls, the father of sleep shall savor his feast." Apparently, this means Mueh'zala, Bwonsamdi's boss and the God of Death. He's the one who whispered in Vol'jin's ear before his death, and got Sylvanas put in charge of the Horde. 0:12 "The golden one claims a vacant throne. The crown of light will bring only darkness." After Shadowlands, Turalyon claims Anduin's vacant throne. He is a paladin, and a zealous paladin at that. His judgment could potentially create the unheard of scenario where the Alliance becomes zealous and hateful, a la Garrosh's Horde. 0:26 "When their mistress beckons, nine ravens take flight. Each seeks a prize to earn her favor." Sylvanas bound her soul to nine val'kyr, which could return from the Shadowlands. What they'd be seeking, I have no idea. 0:40 "The vassal of life disguises treachery. Beware the eyes of green." The Emerald Dream is now a central part of the Dragonflight storyline. Do the Green Dragons have skeletons in their closets? Do they plan to betray us, somehow? 0:52 "Five lanterns now darkened. The flames they seek will light the Masters' way." We know what this means now; the five oathstones of the dragonflights. In order to light these, the dragons needed to re-take their titanic oaths. Notice how he says "Masters'", as in, plural. He isn't referring to N'Zoth; he's referring to the Void Lords. 1:05 "The blind queen wields a scepter of bone. From the deep, she calls forth doom." The only person I can imagine this referring to is Azshara. She isn't blind, though, at least not literally. And her scepter of bone could be Xal'atath. Though that's a dagger, not a scepter. It could also refer to Xal'atath's body - next time we see her, maybe she'll have a scepter? 1:20 "The cunning ones kneel before six masters, but serve only one." Dreadlords, easy. They've been given clear instructions on how to infiltrate the primary forces of all six cosmic elements. They've infiltrated Revendreth and the Burning Legion - on the Light, a dreadlord named Lothraxion commands the Army of the Light's military. We're yet to see their influence in the spheres of order or life, but we can assume that influence exists. I think Il'gynoth is trying to suggest that the nathrezim are servants of the void.
"The crown of light claims a vacant throne, the crown of light brings only darkness" anduin goes missing in shadowlands seemingly and turalyon becomes temporarily king of stormwind
So... Dragonflight huh? "The vassal of life disguises treachery" "Five Lanterns, now darkened. The flame they seek will light the master's way" How about the five dragon aspects, with their powers greatly diminished post-Dragonsoul. Ysera only regained her "flame" in Shadowlands, so at the time it was accurate.
I have been thinking on these whispers lately, and they actually relate pretty decently with dragonflight -The six torches relating to each of the flights -Khadgar comming back (the lord of raven will turn the key) -The vassal of life and beware the eyes of green (maybe Ysera, but feels odd that they beware us of a someone that is by their side) -The crown of light will bring only darkness (the crown of wills and pelagos may be related to that) -In the moment of her third death (this could be Azshara, she "died" un the sundering, once again on the raid and could come back in dragonflight since she is related to that ancient place, you know since the isles became hidden after the sundering) -The golden one claims a vaccant throne (this fits more Turalyon than Pelagos and we know that something is gonna happen there, since Turalyon is now king and Anduin has recently lost his resolve) -The boy king serves at the master's table, 3 lies he will offer you (since Arthas is totally out of the way the only boy king is Anduin, and as I said, his now weaken and lacking resolve, some may say corruptible, how knows) -The cunning ones kneel before six masters but serve only one (obviously the dreadlords, but I say more, the dreadlords actually rescued Denatrhius without follwing the orders of the Jailer, since he disposed of him, the dreadlords always served Denatrhius, how we though served the Jailer; but what about if he actually served the void? That would explain why Revendreth got attacked by the light and why the dreadlords rescued Denatrhius) There are other things that I really don't get like "the blind queen wielding a scepter of bone" and other that do not fit that well like "the king of diamonds have been made a pawn", which everybody asumes refers to Magni, but the first raid of dragonflight is something "elemental related" so it could have a King of Diamond, dunno; for me is kinda an strech involving Magni in all this so I am kinda lost with some bits
vassal of life... if im not wrong the power upon life was given to alextrasza, yet "beware the eyes of green" could be a reference to ysera.... one thing's for sure, it could have been a reference to the 5 dragon aspects, im rpetty sure we will see something in "dragonflight"
I was recently using the older Il'gynoth quotes for a DnD campaign, (adapting them to my story, of course,) and this is perfect for a second wave of riddles! Thanks for uploading!
"Your blood betrays you, your essence is your bane." He's not talking to our characters...he's talking to Azeroth herself. The blood is the Azerite we've been feeding the heart and your essence is your bane is possibly referring to the idea that it's a trick?
the line before says "my curse runs through your veins" obviously when he says her essence is her bane is referring to the fact that azerite being her blood is corrupted by the old gods power, the original reason the titans couldnt kill the old gods themselves was because they had buried deep into the Azeroth herself and it could kill her. More then likely both those whispers are just a reference to azerite and azeroth herself being corrupted by the old gods on some level.
@@MrAsmil You're overthinking this... In both he refers to the curse of flesh and the fact that it makes the races highly susceptible to further Old God/void corruption
@@MrAsmil The blood and essense is all made by the curse of flesh which nzoth made and this boss is made entirely of flesh and blood. He is referring to that despite everything the boss and the players are the same.
Its more likely referring to the blood of humans for example. Without the old gods, many of the Alliance's races would not exist the way they do now. Its the curse of flesh
@@erchobo The Masters, not Our Masters. The highest of the cosmic powers are just referred to as masters by him, see "The Cunning kneel before 6 masters, but serve only one."
@@LapisBlock i get the feeling that the jailer didn´t choose to be the jailer. the only thing that connects helya, Sylvanas and the jailer(last blizz video included, the jailers choice of words was VERY interesting) is that none of them did choose theire fate out of free will. also the archon was triggered by the word "KEY". at the end of legion the windrunner sisters comic took place and the void inside of alleria was damn scared of sylvie. first i thought because she was undead. but what if the void was actually afraid of the "maw magic" inside her. also also, i think that the maw is not just a place, but a creature. also it is known, that the shortage of anima started at the end of legion. what if: the jailer was freed from his chains (put on him by the archon) at this time. the "maw/mouth" of the creature opened and it began to feast on the anima. if you look at the world map of shadowlands, the maw looks like it would suck away everything. the eternal keys, hold by the rulers of the shadowlands, are needed to set this creature free. the jailer was put in place with chains, to keep the mouth of this being shut, cause it was about to consume everything. also it is pretty funny if you switch some names of the cthulhu myth around. cthulhu = n´zoth yig= Y'shaarj (in the blizzard artwork he looks like a snake) R‘lyeh= Nyalotha starsscoin (sorry for butchering)= C´thraxxi (also sorry for butchering) old race= titanforged the deep creatures = Naga Yuggoth= Argus Yog-Sothoth= Illgynoth Nyarlathotep= yogg saron (cause he tricked loken with the avatar of torims dead wife and drove him to madness)
The Sigils seems to be keys or laterns that are most likely connected with the Chains all around Reality aka where Azeroth is. We see on the cosmology chart that there are chains all around the Veil. In a screenshot during Chains of Domination, we see chains above and inside the Veil. They aren't connected to Torghast or The Shadowlands which does bring truth to Sylvanas's words of "This world is a Prison". We have been chained to the fate of Living then dieing and going to The Shadowlands and our life force is then used to run this Machine of Death that keeps The Jailer jailed. All mortals must pay the price for The Jailer seeking knowledge. It is such an insane concept that im pretty sure our character is gonna make the change because The Shadowlands is so fucked up on how things run.
This is why Illy is my favorite boss, his quotes are so mysterious!! Honestly, I think he deserves a resurrection, and honest, I think he deserved to be an Old God..his quotes are spookier than Yogg Saron & C'Thune combined! Shout-out to good o'l Blizzy for creating such a masterpiece.
didnt he also say that his crown opens the way like the lich kings crown to the shadowlands and that players with the gift of n'zoth will let him in the shadowlands to control it maybe like the blade said befor even defeat often worked in favor of n'zoth it says we defeat him but not kill him because i think of his gift to players hope he comes back in shadowlands xpac or after that same for yogg-saron and in the legion xpac he also says welcome death do not fight it and something about hope and sylvanas is always talking about how hope is nothing and serving death maybe she unknowingly or how you spell it serves n'zoth just what i'm thinking could be very wrong tho
@@albertboom7870 We will see exactly how it ends when the mythic cutscenes are released, one could speculate that all we see in the entire raid is a vision just like the ones we are going to farm in stormwind, orgrimmar etc... and that the gift of n'zoth will allow him to see through our eyes when we get to the shadowlands
The fact that the Old Gods are undefeatable is pretty much confirmed. But we can kill their physical forms permanently. But if we ever end up where the void lords live ,they will likely be there, waiting.
@@Reac2 Indeed, despite all the power the Old Gods have, they are mere manifestations of the Void itself and the Void Lords. For all we know as well there's plenty of other Old Gods out there that could latch out. It's definitely not the end of them, just as Cataclysm was just the tip, so was BfA, as WoW has ever been steering towards a big Light vs Void war on galactic scale, which will likely make all other big threats and powers within each of the aspects (such as Burning Legion, death itself and the titans) seem insignificant in comparison.
It was hinted even more in the book of them hunting for Sylvanas. When Turalyon and Aleria try to question someone, they use The Light to bind them down, then use The Void to enter his mind and get answers. Its 2 opposing forces working together but think of it. The Light is being used to force The Void inside a person, very scary, and they can't use The Light to heal the wounds of the minds PTSD and torment it just had with The Void.
Yup and since the Light has invaded Draenor they will make a move on Azeroth. But the Void already knew what was going on everywhere in the cosmos. They are lies and half Truths. But Truths spill usually comes to pass. The Army of Light will come for Azeroth and they are not nice.
When their Mistress Beckons, nine ravens take flight. :: Sylvanas originally had 9 Valkyrs. Should be fairly obvious that even though most of them have been killed in Azeroth, they would just return to the Shadowlands where they originate right? So in the next expac she will have 9
@@wejwyj2230 don't forget that arthas as the lich king had the ability to turn vrykul into valkyr and I assume helya has the ability to make them as well considering she was the first
Sylvanas valy are the ones that the lich king made, so they belong to the shadowlands. All these whispers points to what’s to cone in shadowlands. N’zoth isn’t done with yet. His a mastermind
"The Golden One claims a vacant throne... the crown of Light will bring only darkness..." Turalyon -- having been made king by the nobles of Stormwind in Anduin's absence at the start of Shadowlands -- will become a theocratic dictator, much like Yrel in Draenor is in BFA, and maybe the two will join forces... the Scarlet Crusade / Onslaught could reform on Azeroth, possibly joining the new "Lawful-Evil Alliance" created by Turalyon + Yrel and starting a chapter of their own on Draenor as well... there have been the Dark Horde / Iron Horde / other evil versions of the Horde, so why not the Alliance as well? That's coming... Alleria's newfound people, the Void Elves, will possibly come under persecution -- again -- and she'll be forced to choose between them, or her own family, or perhaps both since she could somehow try to make Arathor and Turalyon both see reason while aiding a Void Elf resistance against the combined tyranny of Turalyon and Yrel...
After hearing these once again, I’m convinced the visions of Stormwind and Orgrimmar may come true. In Stormwind vision, Anduins no where to be found but Alleria is the issue, and Turalyon is the light one.
@@3DTyrant this would also tie to the "deal" that Iridikron made according to the Aspects, and maybe it's the reason as to why the Main Oathstone is still dormant, maybe an Old God is interfering with it and it's going to tell us "oh yeah you want your Aspects powered up? Free me/do something for me" or something
Especially after the new lore books found in forbidden reach and whispers of nzoth in timetravel ny alotha it is almost guaranteed next expansion being centered around the harbinger and azhara bringing forth the void unintentionally
“The vassal of life disguises treachery, beware the eyes of green.” Is referring to Ysera. (Which is very interesting). She is the green aspect, who has been been corrupted by Xavius using a corrupted Tears Of Elune. I wonder if that corruption still lingers, even if it is a minuscule amount. Ysera is the Vassal of Life the green dragon flight maintains the emerald dream which allows life to flourish in Azeroth.
"The crown of light will only bring darkness" - what if this doesn't have anything to do with Turalyon or the light but foreshadowing dark turn of events by forging the crown of wills from the helm of domination. What if free will is the path of the void referring to the infinite truth instead of just a dogmatic narration by a single cosmical viewpoint.
Either the Eternal Ones are total idiots apart from Zovaal, or Primus is the real Jailer and used Domination to control Zovaal and set his plan of reaching forbidden knowledge in Zereth Mortis unnoticed.
@@Octavarium666xyz primus orchestrating the entire anima crisis to reach Zereth Mortis would be deffo 10 times better than any story we have ongoing rn , like damnn that's a cool af speculation
“The golden one claims a vacant throne. The crown of light will bring only darkness” Could this be referencing Turalyon? Anduin gets yoinked to the Shadowlands, and Genn refuses to lead the Alliance during his absence instead allowing Turalyon to do it. Turalyon is a servant of the light, and pretty golden if you ask me, and he claims a vacant throne (if only temporarily). Could he start imposing the will of the light and showing it’s true colors while we are away? Just my theory
Might be something deeper, relating to some hierarchy of the Naaru, in general something we might not know yet. Might also refer to whatever is going on on Draenor, considering the Tyranny of Light we just kinda let happen there and are ignoring ever since unlocking Mag'har Orcs. But your theory is definetly worth considering
"the cunning ones kneel before six masters, but serve only one." it is likely referring to the six cosmic forces, similar to: "Six seat at the high table, six mouths that hunger, one will consume all." Six seats = Light, shadow, Disorder, order, life and death, six mouths = The titans, the wild gods, the undead, the old gods, the burning leigon, and the narru - (The titans hunger for supremacy, The Olds Gods hunger for chaos, the Wild Gods hunger for balance, the Narru hunger for authority, The Burning Legion hunger for destruction, and the Undead hunger for demise) one who will consume all is highly debateable. if not the regarding to themsleves, the old gods. Void lords, shadow, death? perhaps its reality that consumes these forces in its own way. This is possibly a metaphor So he could also be referencing that the cunning ones kneel before all six masters of the cosmic forces. but ultimately serve only one of them. such as Xavius who once worked with the burning leigon. but ultimately served N'zoth. Benidictus was a follower of the light, but immediately turned over to the twilights hammer cult. and finally deathwing, who was originally the chosen aspects of the titans, but succumbed to the whispers of the old gods.
@@seancook4745 vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/wowwiki/images/f/fd/TheCosmicForces-WoWChronicleSample.png/revision/latest?cb=20160313175241 there's six dude. Six in every chain that doesn't include reality, shadow lands, and the emerald dream. unless you're referring to "reality" as part of the chart. then it would just be simply called "The cosmic forces."
I honestly wished you used the music from the other Il'gynoth video for this. It just seemed to fit so much better than the music here. Still a good video though!
Shadowlands and far after that like for example The Light Coming for Azeroth and they already rule Stormwind. The Dark Portal will bring the Rest of the Army Of Light.
“The golden one claims a vacant throne. The crown of light will bring only darkness” “The boy-king serves at master’s table, three lies will he offer you.” Anduin, what may have you done?
It's basically confirmed to be Turalyon at this point seeing as he's to become the steward or SW in Anduins absence and as light was pictured as much less of a purely good force during WoD and Legion What I haven't seen speculated yet is that "The cunning ones kneel before six masters but serve only one." could be reffering to horde and its new "council". It's much more shallow than the cosmic forces shit I've seen speculated over this, but it kind of makes sense to me that the "new horde" would still lean towards one leader even if the council is established.
the cunning ones kneel before six masters, but serve only one. that references the dreadlords we already know that lothraxian kneels before the light and others kneel before the legion but that could mean they also kneel before life death order and shadow. but they serve sire denathrius
Now i will explain what came true so far and what we have found and what's most likely and i will skip the ones i have no idea what they are. Shadowlands spoilers alert!!!! 0:04 Father of sleep is Ueetay no Mueh'zala he is also knowing as God of Death, Father of Sleep, Son of Time, dungeon 0:14 The golden one who claims a vacant throne is Turalyon since Anduin is stuck in the Maw he took his place in stormwind he's probably up to something. 0:32 probably Azshara not sure this one 0:46 the eyes of green probably Shaw not sure with this one. 1:07 The blind queen most likely Sylvanas 1:22 As we found out in Shadowlands revendreth that Dread lords aka nathrezim are spies of the Sire they are Sire Denathrius agents we see them agent of the fel and of shadow and of light and of order they are everywhere but they only serve one master which is Sire denathrius. The six masters are light, fell, death, void, order and life. Let me know what do you guys think?
For anyone who has seen the expac leak, "The blind queen wields a scepter of bone." Leak bellow Alexstrasza is wielding a staff/scepter and she is also know as Queen of Dragons.
Gotta be honest, that scepter doesn't feel very bony, also she is not blind (although she could become blind somehow), and really, alexstraza is not someone you could relate the expresion of "from the deep she calls forth doom". This quote is one of the most confusing to me, I don't know anyone how could be called a "blind queen" in Warcraft
@@daleodorito Its likely a character we haven't seen yet. Or it could refer to Azshara, because she is blind to see that N'zoth knew about her betrayal
Anyone concerned about the golden one claiming a vacant throne? The crown of light bringing only darkness? Turalyon's acting in Anduin's absence, starting with shadowlands... we saw at the end of legion the extent of his devotion to the light.
the golden one could be the new arbiter(pelagos) and the crown of light i think is the remade helm of domination in shadowlands, and the father of sleep one i think is an obvious reference to muehzala.
I doubt it. i think they're saying that her actions would only do more harm than good. if they are refering to her. just like how he previously said the diamond king was made a pawn, saying Calia is speculated to be evil, is like saying Magni BronzeBeard turning evil too.
"Vacant Throne" The Frozen Throne is mostly vacant, and the Helm of Domination has a lit up crystal on it. With it breaking, the balance between life and death evaporated, bringing in Torghast, the Maw itself, as well as the Jailer himself...
Could the 5 laterns be referring to the 5 zones in shadowlands? Oribos is a main city zone thats been built and isn’t like a land mass. Just throwing this out there, but what if when we actually complete shadow lands, we’re actually bringing the old gods back into our plain of existence after taking Sylvanas out at the end? Just speculating here but a life a life in wow and is treated the same to everyone else. But akso, here another one, but since the maw gettingcall the souls, the 5 other zones seek its light, and if we bring them back theres spuls, somehow that brings in there coming (after killing Sylvanas) Just food for thought.
Dragonflights make more sense, since they lost all of their power in cataclysm, and the new expansion will be about them as well. Also the covenants didn't really lose their power, so this makes the dragonflight theory even more plausible
One thing that needs to be kept in mind for these other than ones that correlate with abilities is that they never made it past being voice files. I have never heard and of the prophecy ones in his fight and that's doing it on normal and heroic on at least 4 characters, except the one he says on death. I even watched a couple mythic fight videos that kept the game sounds and they weren't used there either. So the prophecies should be taken with a grain of salt.
"The golden one claims a vacant throne.The crown of light will bring only darkness." Can this be the guy we made into the Arbiter of Shadowlands? For The Crown of Light,it should be the converted Crown of Domination. "Before the last shadow falls,the Father of Sleep shall savor his feast." This is obviously about Mueh'zala and Vol'jin.
I bet we will use him to enter the shadowlands and at the end of expansion we will realize that he was using us to gain more power, at the end we will kill him as a raid boss the end
Illgynoth is a Void Lord, using flesh to manifest, pretending to be a "top general" or something under Nzoth so we don't find it out, we may cut his flesh, but he is eternal, for he... Is a Void Lord
Now imagine how awesome a old god expac would have been if WoW didnt retcon everything established yee from the strat games (Nerzhul forging Frostmourne, Helm and Armor thus being death incarnate, undead being immune to others corruption, but not control, dragon aspects being the living embodiments of each ... well aspect, magic, azeroth, life, time and dreams/potential/evolution, draenei actually being fully corrupt or broken by the legion, etc)
But that'd mess up their plan to make the newest update Warlords of Dreanor 2: Heart of the void boogaloo because fans already loved it when they took the same direction before!
Chris Smid Honestly, I hope they aren’t dead. People say C’Thun got skewered by Sargeras which I disagree with and Yogg was really downplayed, considering how Arthas LITERALLY MADE HIS CITADEL OUT OF HIS BLOOD! I hope we at least get something out of Shadowlands
@@flameknightdragon Most of these "retcons" you and the guy that posted the original talk about arent even retcons, they never specifically said that Cthun was a manifestation of his former self, it was him, just weaker. Also Nerzhul DIDNT forge Frostmourne, it was said that the Dreadlords did with the help of Kiljaeden when it came to the armor but we never learned the details which we are exploring in SL. Stop assuming things and taking the word of others as cannon lore. Many of the other things mentioned are also false.
Yeah the five laterns quote and vassal of life quote are almost def dragonflight related. Im going to be quite shocked if the traitor actually is a green dragonflight though
@@Shoes4Sigma Turalyon becoming lawful evil confirmed, we will be fighting the Scarlets again, possibly Yrel and Lothraxion too... maybe they will take over Stormwind somehow, and then we'll have a Siege of Stormwind raid...
No not Anduin he's referring to the One Sitting in Stormwind as Anduin is gone...The Golden one whom Kneels before the Light. From the Dark Portal the Army Of Light Will Come For Azeroth as we are away
Mmm, a new portion of predictions from a giant glob for lore lovers to speculate on. Nice... p.s. I'm still waiting for the previous ones to become true though...
@@MrTree-yw5yw it's guaranteed that he was referring to Anduin, Sylvanas gave that hint away when she refereed to him as the Boy-King. just my two cents though. not like this whisper is suppose to indicate that anduin is betraying the alliance, and serving and old god. there is probably some things that anduin knows that he wouldn't want others to know. either it would be to complicated to explain, or others would think he's insane.
@@HeyPachuco What about these ? "The King of Diamonds has been made a pawn." "At the hour of her third death, she ushers in our coming." "The Lord of Ravens will turn the key."
@@biacsviktor3466 The Diamond King is Magni bronzebeard. He beileved that heart of Azeroth was a trinket specifically meant to heal the world, when in reality. she prepared the heart of azeroth to gather huge amounts of azerite energies to destroy the chains that bound n'zoth to his prison. When encountering azshara in the eternal palace she says this: Queen Ashara yells: You see the truth now, don't you, heroes? Every move you've made has been according to my will. Queen Ashara yells: That lumbering dwarf believed you could save Azeroth by empowering your shiny little Heart. The gift of a sleeping titan. Queen Ashara yells: Yes, a titan's heart was exactly what was needed. Not to heal the world... but to shatter the prison of a god. Queen Ashara yells: Such delicious irony... the diamond king has been made a pawn. at the hour of her third death: she ushers in our comming: Azeroth if not sylvanas. Sylvanas died three times. the first was by arthas, the second she jumped off ice crown, and the third she was killed by godfrey. azeroth died once when the old gods took root. (via: taking out ysharrj forcefully, resulting critical damage to azeroth.) the second was the great sundering. and the third is the supposed sargeras sword impaled into her core. The lord of Ravens will turn the key: Thats most likely Odyn. Most of his followers refereed to him as "the lord of ravens" and the only Titan keeper tasked to watch over Old god Prisons (Prioritizing Yogg-saron however)
"the cunning ones kneel before six masters, but server only one." could this be a reference to the new horde council? with calia menethil going back to lorderaon to help the forsaken then maybe she will join the council of the horde and thus that would be the sixth master or leader for the horde faction.
The cunning ones are certainly the player character. The six masters are the 6 seats at the high table. The six cosmic forces in which we wield. By wielding their power we serve them.
I think the number six might be in reference to the different cosmic orders in the WoW universe. Life(nature) and Death(necromantic), Order(Arcane) and Disorder(Fel), and Light(Holy) and Shadow(Void).
Heres a funny thing you should know instead of father of sleep quote before i clicked the vid youtube subbed that as fathers sneakers XD like does n'zoth have secretly have sneakers on while waiting for his time lol
@@3DTyrantwhat concerns me is his quote when you defeat him. “A cosmos divided will not be able to withstand the coming darkness.” (That’s the gist of it not word for word). The reason why the jailor was trying to undo all of reality was to to prevent the coming of this darkness.
@@3DTyrantwhat if the Nathrezim are not serving anyone that we know of. We could meet someone totally unrelated to the jailor aka my comment above. What the Nathrezim serve this coming darkness we hear about from the jailor.
I would think "Eyes of Green" wound refer to Envy (the sin). Although that could apply to certain characters as well (but I don't remember Kaelthas's character much. It's been years since I've played WC3 and have never played WoW). This is just my thoughts on it.
I think this version is The Mind of The Jailor? The version of him in The Emerald Nightmare, his Body? Obviously, his Soul, is in The Maw? They, are all in The Maw now? Mind Body and Soul. Perhaps He's Azeroth's Soulmate? She completes him. They usher in a new Age of Enlightenment? The War of The Void and The Light? A Great Cycle. Azeroth a Great Huntress, like this, but a woman; at long last?: ruclips.net/video/3m51oKG3BKA/видео.html
The golden one claims a vacant throne !! Spoilers below!! Calia Menethil of Lordaeron? She is the only light undead and in the quest you do with her / Lilian Voss added in 8.3 you see the remaining undead night elves going with Calia to help them come to terms with undeath, maybe she will be the new leader of the undead after Sylvanas, but maybe that act brings some bad shit?
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It's amazing how one of his quotes only makes sense until now. I remember there being speculations and expectations that all the things he said would happen during Legion or even in BfA, but for all we know some of these quotes we're trying to make sense of won't appear until after Shadowlands or the expansion after that expansion.
Such as the king of diamonds being made a pawn feels pretty obvious it's hinting at Magni, likely being tricked by Azeroth's voice. Lots speculated we'd see it take fruit in BfA but I think it's clear that it's still taking place and we've yet to see Magni having been tricked, which will hold way more weight when it happens (his death probably). For all we know all that we've done, which we thought was freeing Azeroth, is actually to deepen the corruption and they've been singing through her.
The same goes for the boy-king one obviously about Anduin but the three lies aren't very clear yet, it feels more that the Old Gods or Void will seek him out. And "on her third death, she will usher in our coming" I doubt we've seen yet no matter how much we try to speculate, I doubt it had to do with N'zoth's arrival and "usher in our coming" likely means all Old Gods returning or even the Void itself in the future. There's still more that you could kinda piece together but aren't as clear as the "golden one" is now and I feel it just means they're prophecies yet to take place in the future.
If that's the case, then the foreshadowing is crazy and this is the most incredible boss in the game!
Something to keep in mind is that the force of void see every possibility and take them all as truth. To put it into plain terms, il'gynoth can simply see a bunch of what ifs and it doesn't necessarily mean they will come to pass.
@@Pinji707 I was and still sad that the game doesn't pull me that much in anymore. I've waited for Azshara for years. And I did defeat her, but was basically carried by my guild.
What I was amazed about it that Azshara is one of the few bosses that you fight, but you end up being defeated. Yes, you kinda kill her, which has no meaning in this game, but she does indeed execute her plans for you to free N'zoth. And and best and worst part was that I definitely noticed the problem with that content. Namely that the resistance the nagas offer is pretty much nonexistent. I just chalked up for WoW being worse than it was before. And then it turned out that it was deliberate.
Either way my biggest gripe with Shadowlands at the moment that it just doesn't fit into everything else so far.
The golden one is Turalyon. The throne was left vacant when Anduin was taken by the Jailer and Turalyon is now serving as steward, literally sitting on the throne.
i think this game has only 2 more expansions left until the end finally comes, it may all have a sad ending
@@mmoarchives2542 I think expansions will come as long as it has a player base. But...I really want to play it like old times but I can't. I log in, I start doing stuff and start feeling as if I've just downloaded any random MMO from the market.
"The Cunning Ones kneel before six masters but serve only one!"
D R E A D L O R D S
Can we get this guy to come back every expansion? Love the speculation he creates.
I mean, he is a fragment of N'zoth, they could easily just bring him back as a remaining part of N'zoths corruption kinda like how they had the Sha's of Y'Shraaj (if I murdered his name sorry lol) he deserves to have a Xpack for him..hell he could be like G'Huun he could evolve into an old god
The writers are not creative enough to handle more than 1 prediction every 2 expansions.
@@biggshoverwelder3690 Be that as it may, the whispers are just as fun.
Void invaded shadowlands at some point as we have seen thru gameplay right now,Maybe later patch will bring void invasions and illgynoth will return! I mean he even states All you witness is my flesh, that basicaly means he is much more, entity of void energy, thus cannot be destroyed atleast in physical plane.
@@janodefenua4603 i doubt it. the void fears the shadowlands
Rumor Tumor lives!
Rumor tumur has been hitting the gym since the last time we encountered him
"The cunning ones kneel before six masters, but serve only one." - The Nathrezim confirmed by the new 'Enemy Infiltration - Preface' book?
those fuckers sure tricked everyone. Even the void lords. At this point, I'm still curious about how they're connected to so many big names throughout the warcraft universe. Hopefully, Venthyr can explain more about their origin.
I was thinking the same bruh
@@manip1980 would not suprise me if the void lords is just taking advantage of the infiltration. ithe letter says that the void lords knows about the plans of the dread lords and so did ilgynoth with this prophecy.
@@clankhan4542 Nathrezims fear that they may know, but great observation that Il'gynoth knows. I didn't think of that
Honestly one of the most interesting bosses in WoW.
He is my favorite next to Murmur and Durumo the Forgotten
Ahh shit, here we go again.
0:00 "Before the last shadow falls, the father of sleep shall savor his feast."
Apparently, this means Mueh'zala, Bwonsamdi's boss and the God of Death. He's the one who whispered in Vol'jin's ear before his death, and got Sylvanas put in charge of the Horde.
0:12 "The golden one claims a vacant throne. The crown of light will bring only darkness."
After Shadowlands, Turalyon claims Anduin's vacant throne. He is a paladin, and a zealous paladin at that. His judgment could potentially create the unheard of scenario where the Alliance becomes zealous and hateful, a la Garrosh's Horde.
0:26 "When their mistress beckons, nine ravens take flight. Each seeks a prize to earn her favor."
Sylvanas bound her soul to nine val'kyr, which could return from the Shadowlands. What they'd be seeking, I have no idea.
0:40 "The vassal of life disguises treachery. Beware the eyes of green."
The Emerald Dream is now a central part of the Dragonflight storyline. Do the Green Dragons have skeletons in their closets? Do they plan to betray us, somehow?
0:52 "Five lanterns now darkened. The flames they seek will light the Masters' way."
We know what this means now; the five oathstones of the dragonflights. In order to light these, the dragons needed to re-take their titanic oaths. Notice how he says "Masters'", as in, plural. He isn't referring to N'Zoth; he's referring to the Void Lords.
1:05 "The blind queen wields a scepter of bone. From the deep, she calls forth doom."
The only person I can imagine this referring to is Azshara. She isn't blind, though, at least not literally. And her scepter of bone could be Xal'atath. Though that's a dagger, not a scepter. It could also refer to Xal'atath's body - next time we see her, maybe she'll have a scepter?
1:20 "The cunning ones kneel before six masters, but serve only one."
Dreadlords, easy. They've been given clear instructions on how to infiltrate the primary forces of all six cosmic elements. They've infiltrated Revendreth and the Burning Legion - on the Light, a dreadlord named Lothraxion commands the Army of the Light's military.
We're yet to see their influence in the spheres of order or life, but we can assume that influence exists. I think Il'gynoth is trying to suggest that the nathrezim are servants of the void.
"The crown of light claims a vacant throne, the crown of light brings only darkness" anduin goes missing in shadowlands seemingly and turalyon becomes temporarily king of stormwind
The Light demands... purification.
This guy spoilered all Shadowlands content=/
@@29rogans7 its in the books i read it
Lothraxion ...
@@carlosjohn5546 oh good point
So... Dragonflight huh?
"The vassal of life disguises treachery"
"Five Lanterns, now darkened. The flame they seek will light the master's way"
How about the five dragon aspects, with their powers greatly diminished post-Dragonsoul. Ysera only regained her "flame" in Shadowlands, so at the time it was accurate.
It's a very real possibility that Rumour Tumor was taking about the Dragon Aspects
I have been thinking on these whispers lately, and they actually relate pretty decently with dragonflight
-The six torches relating to each of the flights
-Khadgar comming back (the lord of raven will turn the key)
-The vassal of life and beware the eyes of green (maybe Ysera, but feels odd that they beware us of a someone that is by their side)
-The crown of light will bring only darkness (the crown of wills and pelagos may be related to that)
-In the moment of her third death (this could be Azshara, she "died" un the sundering, once again on the raid and could come back in dragonflight since she is related to that ancient place, you know since the isles became hidden after the sundering)
-The golden one claims a vaccant throne (this fits more Turalyon than Pelagos and we know that something is gonna happen there, since Turalyon is now king and Anduin has recently lost his resolve)
-The boy king serves at the master's table, 3 lies he will offer you (since Arthas is totally out of the way the only boy king is Anduin, and as I said, his now weaken and lacking resolve, some may say corruptible, how knows)
-The cunning ones kneel before six masters but serve only one (obviously the dreadlords, but I say more, the dreadlords actually rescued Denatrhius without follwing the orders of the Jailer, since he disposed of him, the dreadlords always served Denatrhius, how we though served the Jailer; but what about if he actually served the void? That would explain why Revendreth got attacked by the light and why the dreadlords rescued Denatrhius)
There are other things that I really don't get like "the blind queen wielding a scepter of bone" and other that do not fit that well like "the king of diamonds have been made a pawn", which everybody asumes refers to Magni, but the first raid of dragonflight is something "elemental related" so it could have a King of Diamond, dunno; for me is kinda an strech involving Magni in all this so I am kinda lost with some bits
Very likely that it is about the dragons, however we can't be sure about the quote supposedly being about Ysera
@@daleodorito I think king of diamonds refers to magni bronzebeard being turned into diamond and being a servant of azeroth
vassal of life... if im not wrong the power upon life was given to alextrasza, yet "beware the eyes of green" could be a reference to ysera.... one thing's for sure, it could have been a reference to the 5 dragon aspects, im rpetty sure we will see something in "dragonflight"
I was recently using the older Il'gynoth quotes for a DnD campaign, (adapting them to my story, of course,) and this is perfect for a second wave of riddles! Thanks for uploading!
Thats so weird because I did the exact same thing xD
Same!
lol I did the same
Same XD
Lol mate, did the same :) (I made riddles-prophecies inspired by that video) Im drivin 'em crazy :D
"The Father of Sneakers" Thanks subtitles.
"Your blood betrays you, your essence is your bane." He's not talking to our characters...he's talking to Azeroth herself. The blood is the Azerite we've been feeding the heart and your essence is your bane is possibly referring to the idea that it's a trick?
the line before says "my curse runs through your veins" obviously when he says her essence is her bane is referring to the fact that azerite being her blood is corrupted by the old gods power, the original reason the titans couldnt kill the old gods themselves was because they had buried deep into the Azeroth herself and it could kill her. More then likely both those whispers are just a reference to azerite and azeroth herself being corrupted by the old gods on some level.
@@MrAsmil You're overthinking this... In both he refers to the curse of flesh and the fact that it makes the races highly susceptible to further Old God/void corruption
@@MrAsmil The blood and essense is all made by the curse of flesh which nzoth made and this boss is made entirely of flesh and blood. He is referring to that despite everything the boss and the players are the same.
@@garrettkiley522 the curse of flesh was actually yogg-saron's doing not N'zoth
Its more likely referring to the blood of humans for example. Without the old gods, many of the Alliance's races would not exist the way they do now. Its the curse of flesh
“Power devours all and i am ravenous “ this is workout motivation speech🔥🔥
"Five lanterns, now darkened. The flame they seek will light the masters' way". Mhhh 9.1 intensify
My question is. The Jailer is the master of the old gods? hmmmmmmmmmmmm
@@erchobo The Masters, not Our Masters. The highest of the cosmic powers are just referred to as masters by him, see "The Cunning kneel before 6 masters, but serve only one."
@@LapisBlock i get the feeling that the jailer didn´t choose to be the jailer. the only thing that connects helya, Sylvanas and the jailer(last blizz video included, the jailers choice of words was VERY interesting) is that none of them did choose theire fate out of free will. also the archon was triggered by the word "KEY".
at the end of legion the windrunner sisters comic took place and the void inside of alleria was damn scared of sylvie. first i thought because she was undead. but what if the void was actually afraid of the "maw magic" inside her.
also also, i think that the maw is not just a place, but a creature. also it is known, that the shortage of anima started at the end of legion. what if: the jailer was freed from his chains (put on him by the archon) at this time. the "maw/mouth" of the creature opened and it began to feast on the anima. if you look at the world map of shadowlands, the maw looks like it would suck away everything. the eternal keys, hold by the rulers of the shadowlands, are needed to set this creature free. the jailer was put in place with chains, to keep the mouth of this being shut, cause it was about to consume everything.
also it is pretty funny if you switch some names of the cthulhu myth around.
cthulhu = n´zoth
yig= Y'shaarj (in the blizzard artwork he looks like a snake)
R‘lyeh= Nyalotha
starsscoin (sorry for butchering)= C´thraxxi (also sorry for butchering)
old race= titanforged
the deep creatures = Naga
Yuggoth= Argus
Yog-Sothoth= Illgynoth
Nyarlathotep= yogg saron (cause he tricked loken with the avatar of torims dead wife and drove him to madness)
@@Shek1nah Cthulu = C'thun and Yog-Sothon = Yogg Saron.
The Sigils seems to be keys or laterns that are most likely connected with the Chains all around Reality aka where Azeroth is. We see on the cosmology chart that there are chains all around the Veil. In a screenshot during Chains of Domination, we see chains above and inside the Veil. They aren't connected to Torghast or The Shadowlands which does bring truth to Sylvanas's words of "This world is a Prison". We have been chained to the fate of Living then dieing and going to The Shadowlands and our life force is then used to run this Machine of Death that keeps The Jailer jailed. All mortals must pay the price for The Jailer seeking knowledge. It is such an insane concept that im pretty sure our character is gonna make the change because The Shadowlands is so fucked up on how things run.
Still we fight! Still we refuse the gift!
Wielding the gift since beginning and i refuse to cleanse it. Wielding the gift until the server shuts down if i have to. I aint betraying daddy.
This is why Illy is my favorite boss, his quotes are so mysterious!! Honestly, I think he deserves a resurrection, and honest, I think he deserved to be an Old God..his quotes are spookier than Yogg Saron & C'Thune combined! Shout-out to good o'l Blizzy for creating such a masterpiece.
I wish him a good journey to Ny'alotha.
Why do you call him Illy? There was and still is a more important character in Warcraft with that nickname
Well he's a fragment of an old god, it's a growth of N'zoth, kind of like a tumor i guess.
didnt he also say that his crown opens the way like the lich kings crown to the shadowlands and that players with the gift of n'zoth will let him in the shadowlands to control it maybe like the blade said befor even defeat often worked in favor of n'zoth it says we defeat him but not kill him because i think of his gift to players hope he comes back in shadowlands xpac or after that same for yogg-saron and in the legion xpac he also says welcome death do not fight it and something about hope and sylvanas is always talking about how hope is nothing and serving death maybe she unknowingly or how you spell it serves n'zoth just what i'm thinking could be very wrong tho
@@albertboom7870 We will see exactly how it ends when the mythic cutscenes are released, one could speculate that all we see in the entire raid is a vision just like the ones we are going to farm in stormwind, orgrimmar etc... and that the gift of n'zoth will allow him to see through our eyes when we get to the shadowlands
Il'gynoth. We meet again, our old Friend.
3:49 - 4:26
I refuse to belive that we have actually defeated N'Zoth. It just seems too easy and combined with Il'gynoth's whispers...
The fact that the Old Gods are undefeatable is pretty much confirmed. But we can kill their physical forms permanently. But if we ever end up where the void lords live ,they will likely be there, waiting.
@@Reac2 Indeed, despite all the power the Old Gods have, they are mere manifestations of the Void itself and the Void Lords. For all we know as well there's plenty of other Old Gods out there that could latch out. It's definitely not the end of them, just as Cataclysm was just the tip, so was BfA, as WoW has ever been steering towards a big Light vs Void war on galactic scale, which will likely make all other big threats and powers within each of the aspects (such as Burning Legion, death itself and the titans) seem insignificant in comparison.
New N'zoth whispers in Dragonflight prove this to be truth.
"The golden one claims a vacant throne. The crown of light will bring only darkness" this is 100% about Turalyon
You DARE scar perfection?
another great vid!
I hope blizzard keep doing this. It’s really good
''The golden one claims a vacant throne''. Could that be Turalyon sitting on the throne in SW while Anduin is in the Maw?
Yes
Almost certainly
It was hinted even more in the book of them hunting for Sylvanas. When Turalyon and Aleria try to question someone, they use The Light to bind them down, then use The Void to enter his mind and get answers. Its 2 opposing forces working together but think of it. The Light is being used to force The Void inside a person, very scary, and they can't use The Light to heal the wounds of the minds PTSD and torment it just had with The Void.
Yup and since the Light has invaded Draenor they will make a move on Azeroth. But the Void already knew what was going on everywhere in the cosmos. They are lies and half Truths. But Truths spill usually comes to pass. The Army of Light will come for Azeroth and they are not nice.
The Horde had Sylvannas, and the Alliance will have Turalyon
A lotta really good, memorable voicework in this raid. Maut, Xanesh, Skitra - all great.
"Those who pass beyond shall drown in the dark" - Referring to all souls being funnelled to The Maw?
Though he is not an Old God, Il’Gynoth is my favorite.
When their Mistress Beckons, nine ravens take flight. ::
Sylvanas originally had 9 Valkyrs. Should be fairly obvious that even though most of them have been killed in Azeroth, they would just return to the Shadowlands where they originate right? So in the next expac she will have 9
Unless stuff has been retconned again the Valkyr are simply ascended Vrykul made by Odin to bring glorious souls to the Halls of Valor
@@wejwyj2230 don't forget that arthas as the lich king had the ability to turn vrykul into valkyr and I assume helya has the ability to make them as well considering she was the first
Sylvanas valy are the ones that the lich king made, so they belong to the shadowlands. All these whispers points to what’s to cone in shadowlands. N’zoth isn’t done with yet. His a mastermind
And now we have The Nine in the Sanctum of Domination, beautiful
This is N'Zoth as he is a part from him.
Players: LET'S SLAY THE HEAD OF THIS BEAST!!!!
N'zoth: That's no head. ;)
Players: D:
God I love these videos
"The Golden One claims a vacant throne... the crown of Light will bring only darkness..." Turalyon -- having been made king by the nobles of Stormwind in Anduin's absence at the start of Shadowlands -- will become a theocratic dictator, much like Yrel in Draenor is in BFA, and maybe the two will join forces... the Scarlet Crusade / Onslaught could reform on Azeroth, possibly joining the new "Lawful-Evil Alliance" created by Turalyon + Yrel and starting a chapter of their own on Draenor as well... there have been the Dark Horde / Iron Horde / other evil versions of the Horde, so why not the Alliance as well? That's coming... Alleria's newfound people, the Void Elves, will possibly come under persecution -- again -- and she'll be forced to choose between them, or her own family, or perhaps both since she could somehow try to make Arathor and Turalyon both see reason while aiding a Void Elf resistance against the combined tyranny of Turalyon and Yrel...
"Those who pass beyond shall drown in the dark"
Is either referring to Nazjatar, or The Maw, where all the souls are currently going.
I like these videos wayyyy too much
After hearing these once again, I’m convinced the visions of Stormwind and Orgrimmar may come true. In Stormwind vision, Anduins no where to be found but Alleria is the issue, and Turalyon is the light one.
"Those who pass beyond, shall drown in the dark"
Shadowlands teaser?
good observation
Good speculation
I think it was nzoth that says a helm will open the way? There is so many teasers from the old gods.
"Five Lanterns now Darkened. The flame they seek will light the master's way"
Could this be related to the five Oathstones of the Dragonflights?
It's entirely possible. It's nice to see Rumour Tumour's words still connecting to lore in some shape or form, even years after this upload!
@@3DTyrant this would also tie to the "deal" that Iridikron made according to the Aspects, and maybe it's the reason as to why the Main Oathstone is still dormant, maybe an Old God is interfering with it and it's going to tell us "oh yeah you want your Aspects powered up? Free me/do something for me" or something
Especially after the new lore books found in forbidden reach and whispers of nzoth in timetravel ny alotha it is almost guaranteed next expansion being centered around the harbinger and azhara bringing forth the void unintentionally
“The vassal of life disguises treachery, beware the eyes of green.” Is referring to Ysera. (Which is very interesting). She is the green aspect, who has been been corrupted by Xavius using a corrupted Tears Of Elune. I wonder if that corruption still lingers, even if it is a minuscule amount. Ysera is the Vassal of Life the green dragon flight maintains the emerald dream which allows life to flourish in Azeroth.
0:18, Il'gynoth, buddy, *PLEASE* tell me that we're going for an alliance/light style siege of Orgrimmar expansion after shadowlands.
"The crown of light will only bring darkness" - what if this doesn't have anything to do with Turalyon or the light but foreshadowing dark turn of events by forging the crown of wills from the helm of domination. What if free will is the path of the void referring to the infinite truth instead of just a dogmatic narration by a single cosmical viewpoint.
Either the Eternal Ones are total idiots apart from Zovaal, or Primus is the real Jailer and used Domination to control Zovaal and set his plan of reaching forbidden knowledge in Zereth Mortis unnoticed.
Could also mean the new arbiter
@@Octavarium666xyz primus orchestrating the entire anima crisis to reach Zereth Mortis would be deffo 10 times better than any story we have ongoing rn , like damnn that's a cool af speculation
“the vassal of life disguises treachery...”
Alekstraza perhaps?
Eonar
@@SadimirPoutin can't call Eonar a 'vassal'. She's the source of life after all, not a servant
maybe Malfurion
They said its ysera
@@MrTree-yw5yw Titans only represent aspects of arcane, they aren't the source of them
“The golden one claims a vacant throne. The crown of light will bring only darkness”
Could this be referencing Turalyon? Anduin gets yoinked to the Shadowlands, and Genn refuses to lead the Alliance during his absence instead allowing Turalyon to do it. Turalyon is a servant of the light, and pretty golden if you ask me, and he claims a vacant throne (if only temporarily). Could he start imposing the will of the light and showing it’s true colors while we are away?
Just my theory
Might be something deeper, relating to some hierarchy of the Naaru, in general something we might not know yet. Might also refer to whatever is going on on Draenor, considering the Tyranny of Light we just kinda let happen there and are ignoring ever since unlocking Mag'har Orcs. But your theory is definetly worth considering
you're right its him Turalyon lol
ye it is
Yup its what he means or rather it's what the Void knows. The Light will Come for Azeroth as it came for Draenor.
The Seventh songs shall rise inside the heart of the black forest. One black goat with many faces speak.
This guy predicting the future
He makes a lot of great points.
"the cunning ones kneel before six masters, but serve only one."
it is likely referring to the six cosmic forces,
similar to: "Six seat at the high table, six mouths that hunger, one will consume all."
Six seats = Light, shadow, Disorder, order, life and death, six mouths = The titans, the wild gods, the undead, the old gods, the burning leigon, and the narru - (The titans hunger for supremacy, The Olds Gods hunger for chaos, the Wild Gods hunger for balance, the Narru hunger for authority, The Burning Legion hunger for destruction, and the Undead hunger for demise) one who will consume all is highly debateable. if not the regarding to themsleves, the old gods.
Void lords, shadow, death? perhaps its reality that consumes these forces in its own way.
This is possibly a metaphor So he could also be referencing that the cunning ones kneel before all six masters of the cosmic forces. but ultimately serve only one of them. such as Xavius who once worked with the burning leigon. but ultimately served N'zoth. Benidictus was a follower of the light, but immediately turned over to the twilights hammer cult. and finally deathwing, who was originally the chosen aspects of the titans, but succumbed to the whispers of the old gods.
"The cunning one" makes me think of Wrathion
that fucking cosmology chart being used for Il'gynoth's rumors is fucking absurd
There are 7 cosmic forces.....
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there's six dude. Six in every chain that doesn't include reality, shadow lands, and the emerald dream. unless you're referring to "reality" as part of the chart. then it would just be simply called "The cosmic forces."
@@HeyPachuco that chart is outdated btw
You DARE scar perfection!
I honestly wished you used the music from the other Il'gynoth video for this. It just seemed to fit so much better than the music here. Still a good video though!
i think this music is just as good as the one in the original
Is everything he's saying foreshadowing things to come in Shadowlands?
Unlikely just shadow lands most likly will go well beyond shadow lands
In legion he hinted at how the helm of domnation would open a portal or what ever it is called
@@elden6629 It was N'zoth the one who said that ruclips.net/video/HUbdmKWPwXg/видео.html 3:35
@@hopesflaw6523 the helm of domination is the lich kings crown
Shadowlands and far after that like for example The Light Coming for Azeroth and they already rule Stormwind. The Dark Portal will bring the Rest of the Army Of Light.
“The golden one claims a vacant throne. The crown of light will bring only darkness”
“The boy-king serves at master’s table, three lies will he offer you.”
Anduin, what may have you done?
I think it’s Turalyon. He basically becomes the King of Stormwind and acting leader of the alliance during Anduin’s absence in the Shadowlanda
It's basically confirmed to be Turalyon at this point seeing as he's to become the steward or SW in Anduins absence and as light was pictured as much less of a purely good force during WoD and Legion
What I haven't seen speculated yet is that "The cunning ones kneel before six masters but serve only one." could be reffering to horde and its new "council". It's much more shallow than the cosmic forces shit I've seen speculated over this, but it kind of makes sense to me that the "new horde" would still lean towards one leader even if the council is established.
@@alangrygar8562 it's the Nathrezim (Dread Lords) That are the servants.
the cunning ones kneel before six masters, but serve only one. that references the dreadlords we already know that lothraxian kneels before the light and others kneel before the legion but that could mean they also kneel before life death order and shadow. but they serve sire denathrius
Well done you called it
Now i will explain what came true so far and what we have found and what's most likely and i will skip the ones i have no idea what they are.
Shadowlands spoilers alert!!!!
0:04 Father of sleep is Ueetay no Mueh'zala he is also knowing as God of Death, Father of Sleep, Son of Time, dungeon
0:14 The golden one who claims a vacant throne is Turalyon since Anduin is stuck in the Maw he took his place in stormwind he's probably up to something.
0:32 probably Azshara not sure this one
0:46 the eyes of green probably Shaw not sure with this one.
1:07 The blind queen most likely Sylvanas
1:22 As we found out in Shadowlands revendreth that Dread lords aka nathrezim are spies of the Sire they are Sire Denathrius agents we see them agent of the fel and of shadow and of light and of order they are everywhere but they only serve one master which is Sire denathrius. The six masters are light, fell, death, void, order and life.
Let me know what do you guys think?
The writer and actor behind Il'gynoth could use him to hype up a nefarious Vulpura, and we'd likely be on board.
The 9 ravens have been seen brothers, one prophecy has been shown
For anyone who has seen the expac leak, "The blind queen wields a scepter of bone."
Leak bellow
Alexstrasza is wielding a staff/scepter and she is also know as Queen of Dragons.
Gotta be honest, that scepter doesn't feel very bony, also she is not blind (although she could become blind somehow), and really, alexstraza is not someone you could relate the expresion of "from the deep she calls forth doom".
This quote is one of the most confusing to me, I don't know anyone how could be called a "blind queen" in Warcraft
@@daleodorito Its likely a character we haven't seen yet. Or it could refer to Azshara, because she is blind to see that N'zoth knew about her betrayal
0:42 i think we need to have a talk with alex...
Please make theories right here, I now people are itching to tell their theories.
Anyone concerned about the golden one claiming a vacant throne? The crown of light bringing only darkness?
Turalyon's acting in Anduin's absence, starting with shadowlands... we saw at the end of legion the extent of his devotion to the light.
the golden one could be the new arbiter(pelagos) and the crown of light i think is the remade helm of domination in shadowlands, and the father of sleep one i think is an obvious reference to muehzala.
"The Master of Sleep"
Mueh'zala?
Yes Mueh'Zala is the Father of Sleep, he's also the Loa of Death for the Sandfury Trolls
Honestly i was thinking Cenarius.
@@3DTyrant And possibly the Jailer
pretty sure thats Bill Cosby
"The crown of light claims a vacant throne, the crown of light brings only darkness"
Calia Menethil actually being evil?
I doubt it.
i think they're saying that her actions would only do more harm than good. if they are refering to her.
just like how he previously said the diamond king was made a pawn, saying Calia is speculated to be evil, is like saying Magni BronzeBeard turning evil too.
Bolvar maybe?
Probably referring to Azeroth itself
Arbiter?
"Vacant Throne" The Frozen Throne is mostly vacant, and the Helm of Domination has a lit up crystal on it. With it breaking, the balance between life and death evaporated, bringing in Torghast, the Maw itself, as well as the Jailer himself...
I accept
Fucking awesome
Could the 5 laterns be referring to the 5 zones in shadowlands? Oribos is a main city zone thats been built and isn’t like a land mass. Just throwing this out there, but what if when we actually complete shadow lands, we’re actually bringing the old gods back into our plain of existence after taking Sylvanas out at the end? Just speculating here but a life a life in wow and is treated the same to everyone else. But akso, here another one, but since the maw gettingcall the souls, the 5 other zones seek its light, and if we bring them back theres spuls, somehow that brings in there coming (after killing Sylvanas) Just food for thought.
Dragonflights make more sense, since they lost all of their power in cataclysm, and the new expansion will be about them as well. Also the covenants didn't really lose their power, so this makes the dragonflight theory even more plausible
MA! That fuckin old god thing is back! Tellin me the future and shit!
0:39 The book from the Spire of Unseen Guests mentions an agent that has infiltrated Ardenweald.
Green eyes? hmm Ilidan comming back with big badass Sargeras to kill half corrupted titan of Azeroth? That would be nice.
One thing that needs to be kept in mind for these other than ones that correlate with abilities is that they never made it past being voice files. I have never heard and of the prophecy ones in his fight and that's doing it on normal and heroic on at least 4 characters, except the one he says on death.
I even watched a couple mythic fight videos that kept the game sounds and they weren't used there either.
So the prophecies should be taken with a grain of salt.
Ahhhhh!!! So many hints with no answers..I'll have to go back...
Beware the eyes of green (Master Mathias Shaw )
"The golden one claims a vacant throne.The crown of light will bring only darkness."
Can this be the guy we made into the Arbiter of Shadowlands? For The Crown of Light,it should be the converted Crown of Domination.
"Before the last shadow falls,the Father of Sleep shall savor his feast."
This is obviously about Mueh'zala and Vol'jin.
I bet we will use him to enter the shadowlands and at the end of expansion we will realize that he was using us to gain more power, at the end we will kill him as a raid boss
the end
1:31 When my mid locks in Yasuo
Illgynoth is a Void Lord, using flesh to manifest, pretending to be a "top general" or something under Nzoth so we don't find it out, we may cut his flesh, but he is eternal, for he... Is a Void Lord
this may be 4 years old, but turn on CC and stop it at 0:09 and you'll see the best line ever.
My life summed up at 2:02
Now imagine how awesome a old god expac would have been if WoW didnt retcon everything established yee from the strat games (Nerzhul forging Frostmourne, Helm and Armor thus being death incarnate, undead being immune to others corruption, but not control, dragon aspects being the living embodiments of each ... well aspect, magic, azeroth, life, time and dreams/potential/evolution, draenei actually being fully corrupt or broken by the legion, etc)
There still can be an old god expac. Yogg'saron and Cthun are still around.
@@chrissmid8660 I think they retconed them both into being fully dead now.
But that'd mess up their plan to make the newest update Warlords of Dreanor 2: Heart of the void boogaloo because fans already loved it when they took the same direction before!
Chris Smid Honestly, I hope they aren’t dead. People say C’Thun got skewered by Sargeras which I disagree with and Yogg was really downplayed, considering how Arthas LITERALLY MADE HIS CITADEL OUT OF HIS BLOOD! I hope we at least get something out of Shadowlands
@@flameknightdragon Most of these "retcons" you and the guy that posted the original talk about arent even retcons, they never specifically said that Cthun was a manifestation of his former self, it was him, just weaker. Also Nerzhul DIDNT forge Frostmourne, it was said that the Dreadlords did with the help of Kiljaeden when it came to the armor but we never learned the details which we are exploring in SL. Stop assuming things and taking the word of others as cannon lore. Many of the other things mentioned are also false.
crown of light: auduin dies
mistress: jaina dies
vassel of life: cenarion gets corrupted
blind queen: tanadre serves the master
Five lanterns, now darkened...
The Aspects' Oathstones?
Yeah the five laterns quote and vassal of life quote are almost def dragonflight related. Im going to be quite shocked if the traitor actually is a green dragonflight though
@@Convescation My personal theory is infinite dragonflight serve nzoth.
"the golden one claims a vacant throne, the crown of light will bring only darkness" WELL GUESS THAT WAS DEFINITELY ANDUIN
No, it's Turalyon. He took Anduin's place when he was kidnapped.
@@Shoes4Sigma Turalyon becoming lawful evil confirmed, we will be fighting the Scarlets again, possibly Yrel and Lothraxion too... maybe they will take over Stormwind somehow, and then we'll have a Siege of Stormwind raid...
No not Anduin he's referring to the One Sitting in Stormwind as Anduin is gone...The Golden one whom Kneels before the Light. From the Dark Portal the Army Of Light Will Come For Azeroth as we are away
I hope we can keep this at 666 likes, as if this wasn't creepy enough.
The boy king serves at the masters table 3 lies will he offer you. The three keys will be lies
Is the golden one Turalyon? The vacant throne meaning of Anduin's kidnapping?
Yes
First Line clearly Turalion
The crown of light will bring only darkness. PELAGOS
well we know who the father of sleep is now at least....
Nzoth?
@@jovanpikok8045 No, Mueh'zala
5 torches, 5 new zones in the shadowlands
nope. 5 dragon flights
5 dragon aspects.
There’s 6 zones actually
Watch at 0.75 speed. Thank me never
Sounds more threatening
DonMajkos creepy
The Overmind ???
Mmm, a new portion of predictions from a giant glob for lore lovers to speculate on. Nice...
p.s. I'm still waiting for the previous ones to become true though...
all of his previous predictions have already come true. the only one that's still a mystery is anduins 3 lies.
@@HeyPachuco it will be no surprise, if in the end it turns out Ilgynoth wasn't talking about Anduin at all (-_-;)
@@MrTree-yw5yw it's guaranteed that he was referring to Anduin, Sylvanas gave that hint away when she refereed to him as the Boy-King.
just my two cents though. not like this whisper is suppose to indicate that anduin is betraying the alliance, and serving and old god. there is probably some things that anduin knows that he wouldn't want others to know. either it would be to complicated to explain, or others would think he's insane.
@@HeyPachuco What about these ?
"The King of Diamonds has been made a pawn."
"At the hour of her third death, she ushers in our coming."
"The Lord of Ravens will turn the key."
@@biacsviktor3466 The Diamond King is Magni bronzebeard. He beileved that heart of Azeroth was a trinket specifically meant to heal the world, when in reality. she prepared the heart of azeroth to gather huge amounts of azerite energies to destroy the chains that bound n'zoth to his prison. When encountering azshara in the eternal palace she says this:
Queen Ashara yells: You see the truth now, don't you, heroes? Every move you've made has been according to my will.
Queen Ashara yells: That lumbering dwarf believed you could save Azeroth by empowering your shiny little Heart. The gift of a sleeping titan.
Queen Ashara yells: Yes, a titan's heart was exactly what was needed. Not to heal the world... but to shatter the prison of a god.
Queen Ashara yells: Such delicious irony... the diamond king has been made a pawn.
at the hour of her third death: she ushers in our comming: Azeroth if not sylvanas. Sylvanas died three times. the first was by arthas, the second she jumped off ice crown, and the third she was killed by godfrey. azeroth died once when the old gods took root. (via: taking out ysharrj forcefully, resulting critical damage to azeroth.) the second was the great sundering. and the third is the supposed sargeras sword impaled into her core.
The lord of Ravens will turn the key: Thats most likely Odyn. Most of his followers refereed to him as "the lord of ravens" and the only Titan keeper tasked to watch over Old god Prisons (Prioritizing Yogg-saron however)
"the cunning ones kneel before six masters, but server only one." could this be a reference to the new horde council? with calia menethil going back to lorderaon to help the forsaken then maybe she will join the council of the horde and thus that would be the sixth master or leader for the horde faction.
The cunning ones are certainly the player character. The six masters are the 6 seats at the high table.
The six cosmic forces in which we wield. By wielding their power we serve them.
I think the number six might be in reference to the different cosmic orders in the WoW universe. Life(nature) and Death(necromantic), Order(Arcane) and Disorder(Fel), and Light(Holy) and Shadow(Void).
@@probablyanoldgod320 and the new one that talks about "one will consume all other" being death to end the other 5 cosmic forces or to pose threat
Heres a funny thing you should know instead of father of sleep quote before i clicked the vid youtube subbed that as fathers sneakers XD like does n'zoth have secretly have sneakers on while waiting for his time lol
"The Cunning ones serve six masters but serve only one" What happens to the Jailer now?
Given the Jailer is (as far as we're aware) now dead, I'm unsure if that quote was eluding to him.
@@3DTyrantwhat concerns me is his quote when you defeat him. “A cosmos divided will not be able to withstand the coming darkness.” (That’s the gist of it not word for word). The reason why the jailor was trying to undo all of reality was to to prevent the coming of this darkness.
@@3DTyrantwhat if the Nathrezim are not serving anyone that we know of. We could meet someone totally unrelated to the jailor aka my comment above. What the Nathrezim serve this coming darkness we hear about from the jailor.
Did he confirm to the possibility of 6 old gods and not 4?
There's 4 we know about, there allegedly was/is a 5th who people theorise to be Xal'atah, but I don't think that's 100% confirmed
When i play in mop there was a hint of possibility of 7 old gods - from memory it was a reference to 7 heads during a scene referring to Yasharaj.
@@byronsmith5718 If I'm remembering correctly, that would be the "seven heads of Y'Sharaaj" , referencing the seven Sha.
Ahhh possibly, it was long ago that expansion 😁
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0:52 could this be the aspecs oath stones ?
I do think so. The five keys are probably the ones from Shadowlands... It's getting close now
"The Blind Queen wields a scepter of bone, from the deep she calls forth doom."
Talanji is queen and her new loa is Bwamsandi, right?
But is Talanji blind? Calia could be considered blind since she follows and was resurrected by the Light.
"Those who pass peyond shall drown in the dark" --> players going to beyond aka shadowlands ?
To the Maw
Literally anyone who dies right now goes straight to the maw as seen in the Kyrian quest. So it's a literal prophecy.
The green eyes could refer to kaelthas sunstrider as we know he's in shadowlands alread
It's about Ysera
I would think "Eyes of Green" wound refer to Envy (the sin). Although that could apply to certain characters as well (but I don't remember Kaelthas's character much. It's been years since I've played WC3 and have never played WoW). This is just my thoughts on it.
Hold the fuck up. 'The golden one claims a vacant throne.' Did Ilgynoth predict Turalyon? For context, it's at 0:13.
yes. that's Turalyon for sure.
I think this version is The Mind of The Jailor?
The version of him in The Emerald Nightmare, his Body?
Obviously, his Soul, is in The Maw?
They, are all in The Maw now?
Mind Body and Soul.
Perhaps He's Azeroth's Soulmate?
She completes him. They usher in a new Age of Enlightenment?
The War of The Void and The Light?
A Great Cycle.
Azeroth a Great Huntress, like this, but a woman; at long last?: ruclips.net/video/3m51oKG3BKA/видео.html
The golden one claims a vacant throne !! Spoilers below!!
Calia Menethil of Lordaeron? She is the only light undead and in the quest you do with her / Lilian Voss added in 8.3 you see the remaining undead night elves going with Calia to help them come to terms with undeath, maybe she will be the new leader of the undead after Sylvanas, but maybe that act brings some bad shit?
It would be 10/10 if you were put the music from the other video. Honestly doesn't feel epic with this new song... 😟
Also the thumbnail and the video is the same picture *pyromancer* used for his video. So you have lost original content.
Totally disagree with you, it is epic, it feels epic if you dont like it thats another thing