Jeep Wrangler Long Arm Install - DIY 3 Link
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Its time to upgrade my Jeep Wrangler JKUs suspension!!!
Long arms are a great upgrade, and provide a ton of benefits.
I went with a DIY 3 link front and rear kit from 7 Slot Customs (Barnes4WD). This is a new kit, and i am the first to install it.
It will be available in many options soon, found at www.barnes4wd....
Like i mentioned in the video, 7SC (Barnes4WD) has teamed up with the youtube channel and is offering you guys a permanent 10% off discount code on products using the code JKgear.
Now lets talk about the 3 link long arms..
A 3 link will be a great choice for offroading due to the design. Less binding, due to the single upper link allowing for misalignment.
This bind free design, will translate over to a "softer" on road feel.
If you want a 3 link front and rear, i would strongly suggest running both front and rear sway bars, as well as adjustable shocks or a shock that is valved stiff in design.
In a few videos from now, i will be testing the new long arms offroad, as well as taking the jeep on a cross country trip to attend the Powerstop trail to sema. I will be putting this kit to the test!
As you can tell, the install requires welding, cutting, and a good amount of fabrication skills.
I will say that it goes together very easy, and overall its not much harder than other long arm installs.
If your looking for a well priced kit that performs well, then i would strongly suggest this 7SC kit. Yes it does require some work, but nothing beats the feeling of doing this yourself!
Like always, i hope you enjoyed the video. Please leave a comment and a thumbs up!
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Barnes4WD now has the bracket kits for sale!!!!
Super affordable pricing, and like always you can save 10% off anything with the code JKgear
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We will be putting the 3 link to the test out west!
JK Gear and Gadgets I am looking at getting the bracket kit but they do not have the link/joint kit yet I can get it all separate but was wondering do you know if the enduros are the 9 or 10 degree offset?
John Byrd call up 7slotcustoms and talk to Connor! Tell him I sent you and he will can help you out with everything in this kit. I want to say it’s the 10* because the 9 and 10 have different mounting widths. You can also choose to run standard heims all around and it will still be fone
JK Gear and Gadgets thank you I’ll give them a call today
I clicked the link in the description and my browser shut me down, said there's a problem with that specific website and not to continue. Is the link correct/verified?
Randy Kudijaroff 7slotcustoms moved back to Barnes4WD. Same stuff still, just on Barnes4WD.com. I’ll try to update the link today
To anyone watching this, never weld a bracket up with the joint in it. The heat transfers fast enough to melt the races inside the joint. Instead, use a piece of all-thread with nuts inside and out to hold the tolerance while you weld.
Well done Ben, that is a sh*t ton of fabrication!! Now we just sit back and wait for the RUclips haters to critique your welds, brand choice, amount of discount they are offering, the wheels on your kids barbie jeep...whatever they can pull apart.
my welding is not near that good, but from the safety of my computer desk i can say that there was a bad spot on that weld.
Thats very little fabrication. As basic and simple as it gets.
@@wheels.and.wrenches this guy has clearly never browsed pirate4x4. You would get flamed off that forum for claiming this is fabrication!
Great vid. Light bar looks out of place. I’d get rid of it ASAP 👍
Negative Ghost Rider. This is America.
Proud to be in America.
JK Gears & Gadgets, One of the most informative video channels on the web. I have learned so much from the videos about suspension, roll cage building, exhaust mods, shock installations. Ben does a fine job with the explanations of what is being done for what reasons. This comment is coming from a truck guy who is slowly getting the bug for buying a Jeep. Keep it up Ben, good luck a King of the Hammers
Cool vid dude, good to see a step by step guide! As for the welding, stick welding is more than strong enough for control arms ;)
haha, i found that very comical !
I was going to ask why you wouldn't use a stick welder. Any idea?
Hillbillyjeeper WV so the heat doesn’t deform the threading
Stick welding is perfectly acceptable way to weld anything. Especially long arm bungs..
Barnes rear 3 link truss came out with the updated version. The 3 link tower was keyed into the truss to not make any mistakes by burning it in too far back/front or twisted.
Nice work! Just a tip keep a battery powered leaf blower close so when you're cutting and grinding you don't have to roll around in metal shavings.
Metal shavings are the worst
Awesome video and top notch craftsmanship. I’d probably get rid of the light bar.
Nothing but respect 👍🏻 your one of a few that I enjoy watching. I like that you dont depend on others and you do everything yourself. Nothing is difficult when you have a good thought process and patience.
I've owned my JK since 2007. After watching your video, man I have some serious suspension upgrade required asap. I'm lucky I have broken anything on the trails. I bought a 4" lift shock and spring lift in 07" and haven't touched anything else since. BRB I need to slap myself.
Dude a four link is the only way to go. If you break one you are high and dry in the bush!.check out the EVO rear set up.
How many times have you seen a broken 3 link on the trail? I’ve seen more 4 link brackets fail. unless it’s a triangulated 4 link, the long arm 4 link in outboard configuration binds a good bit.
Great video as always Ben, your skills never seize to amaze me. I’d remove the light bar 👍🏻
Agree - As a do it yourself guy and one who takes his rig offroad he should remove the light bar.
Jimmy Kimball prolly gonna keep his Jeep how he wants
imsorryclass I’m sure he is, but at the end of the video he asked everyone if he should or shouldn’t keep the light bar for the Trail to SEMA. Did you even watch the whole video?
Take a drink each time he says bung 😆
LOL! Apparently Ben was thinking about that with that burp at 15:27.
Ben I’m impressed, you’ve got some skills. Thank you for taking the time to video all of this when you’re on such a tight schedule.
Thank you so much Ben, I know it must suck,frustrating and irritating making the video while working, but I appreciate it so much, thank you for everything ❤️❤️❤️!!!!
@JK Gear and Gadgets, take the light bar down before heading to SEMA. But if you would run one in the future, then just save up for a KC Gravity light bar. 🤙
I’m never going to go this far with my JK, but it’s fascinating to watch. Thanks for making such detailed videos! Far beyond the typical RUclips bolt on. Love your channel.
Thanks Ben for the discount! My wife has other chosen words.... 🤷♂️
The good thing is that you can blame it all on me! Lol
Ordered same setup from Barnes 4WD today for my JK 2dr. Picked up their belly skids for it a few weeks ago and was really impressed with simply how beefy their products are. Can't wait to get this all installed and tested out!
My 2 door Jk was recently hit and it messed up the front axle, a control arm, and the control arm bracket on the frame. Instead of replacing the factory suspension stuff, we decided to go with a front 3 link and the shop recommended this kit.
I'm not sure about doing the rear half eventually ...I've read that this rear design causes the front to raise up under acceleration. I have a supercharger and definitely don't want anything with unpredictable handling.
Great video! Personally I would remove the light bar because it looks kind of out of place on your bad ass Jeep. If you still want that extra light out on the trails I would recommend the KC Pro 6. I think that option would look great on your Jeep and give you the light you want and go along with your jeeps aggressive stance. Again great video and keep up the awesome work!
Hey great video.
I definitely like the follow along with the fabrication. Let’s me know if you can do it I can probably get my 9 year old son to do it!! Hahaha. No but....really great insight and I now know it’s a little bit more than I can handle on my own. ( I really need better tools particularly a welder) I truly respect your ability’s and willingness to deal with the filming of that project. Can’t wait for the next one!!🤘👍
Not a hater just wanted to say stic and flux core is a stronger process. Weld.com did a video to prove it. Honestly your welds looked good and enjoyed the video great job man.
Haha, wife says " where's my million dollars at then?" Whilst walking around a driveway with 3 modified jeeps sitting in it.
I'm not a fan of lightbars but with the Flag cover, I like it... So leave it... Have a great day...
Awesome video dude. I really appreciate seeing you do all the work on your Jeep and learning along the way. This is content nobody else is making and I'm so glad that you do.
I got the kit because of your video. They have changed up the parts with the better joints on both ends. . That too front bracket was a pain to remove lol. Good video thanks
Might have night wheeling so I would keep the light bar. Love the way it worked all together on the already installed Barnes 4wd system
Awesome video of a great build I say remove the light bar... Its not a mall crawler it's a rock crawler LOL
my light bar has helped me with depth perception when crawling at night!
@@geminijets1470 that makes sense
Just bought a set of F250 axles out of two different trucks, both '04s, for $550. Looking forward to see what damage I can do with my Lincoln 180.
Great video! I like production, but I love serious Jeepers doing their own work. It teaches those (me) who didn’t grow up wrenching on things, how to do it or if I should even try.
Install starts @ 7:20
I need to learn how to weld! I have loved all the Axles videos and now this one.
Ditch the light bar!
Love your videos. I will live vicariously through you until I can get my own Jeep someday.
The bracket itself could also hve 2 prt system, that way u hve a gap & sleeve on top of diff u spot weld only & then bolt. Then bracket itself is 2 prt not just 1 So u hve 2 ways to attack it 2 pnts designed failure pnts & more replace or adjustment built in, & more reuse if u steal prts from 1 jeep & reuse on another. Flexible deal changeable deal seems better deal then OT 10 rules No changes of any kind no amendments move on hardest core.
So Me and my Kids use to Think my '17 JKU with 3.5" lift and 35's was a bad ass jeep and Now they say my jeep looks stock compared to yours. My 5 and 8 yr old sons watch your videos on there ipads or tv and then come tell me Ben uploaded a new video and tell me what you did this time! So keep it up they choose your videos over some of the other crap out there on you tube. They cant wait till the day we can wheel with you at Uwharrie! Be safe headin out West but most of all have fun!
Remove that light bar, and add some bumper spot driver lights. Just in case your on the trail at night on your Sema adventure.
Very informative Ben!!! Thank you!! It answered a lot of questions I had and gave me things to look out for. And to answer your question about the light bar, Virginia is DARK at night but it’s up to you. I personally am not a fan of them though. I look forward to many more of your videos and meeting up with you.
1 congrats on the sponsorship Barnes is bad AF. 2 I say keep the light bar. You know those guys you’ll be riding with will love it 😂 good conversation starter. 3 I wanna be the first guy to toss this kit on a stock set of JK rubicon axles 🤙🏼👍🏼😏
As always. Killer work my man. Excited for your trail to sema journey. I love AZ. Hit up “breakfast club” in downtown Phoenix BEST breakfast food ever I promise.
Can confirm about breakfast club ;)
Awesome video. I wish I had the skills to 3 link my fj80
Thank you for explaining long arms vs short arm suspensions. Excellent presentation!
I screw up on my front upper bracket and welded the plate before welding to frame.
Down with Covid so I'm binge watching all your videos. Well most of them. I'm really enjoying them
Congrats on the new sponsor. Well deserved.
Thanks man. They make great stuff and I’m hoping others can benefit from the discount
As a professional welder I'd like to point out you were wrong when you said not to weld bungs in with a stick set up. Mig is nice, but its better for lost of ok welding, Tig is a much better option. If you can't tig though Stick is a much better option. IMO.. As someone who has just broken 200 miles of weld on a oil line. But I do guess if its a novice doing it Mig would be a bit better... the cleaner, and more accurate the weld, the more strength it has.
That’s the point I was getting at. I don’t want someone who has no welding experience going out and buying a $80 stick welder
@@JKGearandGadgets your videos are always great man, you ever find yourself in MN I'll take you to Gilbert ohrv park
Fantastic video! Go on with the details, that's the most interesting part of it! I would change the lightbar bracket so the bar sits much much closer to the windshield frame.
Looks awesome. Cant wait to see more videos. I wish I had the skills to do the welding myself. I love the guys at barnes 4wd. Had a shop here in Raleigh screw up my wifes jeep and ruined the joints on the tie rod and draglink setup. They helped me out with the replacements. Congratulations on the sponsorship!
10% off is actually decent. I need some misalignment spacers and was gonna order from Barnes anyways, they have good prices lol. You just got a subscriber and a click on your link, thanks for the content!
Whoa buddy, I just clicked the link you provided, and my browser immediately stopped me and said there's a problem with the website. Is that the correct link?
Ill have to check the link and update it. Just go to Barnes4wd website, discount code is jkgear
You can most definitely stick weld that...
Can't wait for this product to become available! Since you are making videos right after I finish researching subjects, I suspect that your next video will be on installing an Atlas 4 speed transfer case. :-)
I got my first jeep recently, been working on it for a few weeks now. Found your channel somehow and your stuff is amazing. Keep it up :)
My front is done similarly with Artec's kit. I'm still running MetalCloak drop brackets and adjustable arms in the rear. Seriously thinking about 3-linking the rear too.
The prt that bracket u r talking about welding on to top of diff seems like a post on deck. Used get better result if your bracket sat securely in connection racket, so whether u "weld it" or bolt it or both, it doesn't sit flush on top of diff. Should b a flex or space gap post on deck or 1 prt truely is going & doing what ever the other does. A bracket connected to biggin tires is basically like post on porch< a giant level> so a spot designed to fail & how & where your words no perfect set up is best. Designed to fail to flex but not but could break & this is prt of set up installed & how it can b all changed out & fixed. If all 1 u take a cutter torch to it & cut u out & junk it strong but not ideal.
Very impressive work Ben. I have never built a Jeep before but you make me want to build one. I've done a full size Bronco and an IH Scout 2.
Great video Ben.its your Jeep and light bar,if you like it you keep it on,but I really don't think you need it.i don't have one on my YJ but I do have one on my Z71 and it catches tree limbs and things that run over the top.i vote ditch it.
The light bar
Always a job well done. I’m very impressed with this kit and may look to doing it in the future. Such an amazing channel and it’s awesome to see that you have the support of Barnes4WD now
Thank you for you channel and all you do and explain. You really help us new jeep owners . Thank you again.
Long is good, both in arms and video lendth especially in a detailed video, can't wait for more..Great job..
The double pivot pnt must hve a max hit b4 it transfers along 2nd arm built in.
Great video! Didn’t really expect anything less. Thought it would seem really long being 44 minutes but was over and didn’t seem long enough. Awesome job on the sponsorship with 7 slot customs. Have been watching you videos for a while and it is definitely well deserved. 😉
Man I really admire your ability to do all that. What I would do to be your neighbor. Is the house next door for sale? Lol.
Great video..your so informative and your talent never cease to amaze me.I have no welding talent and wouldn’t attempt that.Love your channel and your jeeps.
Don't give in to peer pressure keep the light bar
Man I can appreciate all the work that went into this! Good stuff!🤙
I think i'm going to buy this kit.
I like the look and fuuncation of this long arm kit
hey great job on your jeep but an fyi you cam absolutely weld your bungs in your links with stick welding. it will be stronger then mig
I only said that to people who arent familiar with welding. I don’t want someone to go out and buy a $100 stick welder and try it. Mig is easier for someone to learn and usually the welds are better for someone who doesn’t have practice.
@@JKGearandGadgets you are correct mig is easier and will generally look better . for someone just learning stick is way harder
if people would learn to weld up hill with mig the welds penetrate better but don't look as nice as down hill welds
most people in the offroad industry weld mig down hill. You did a good job getting all that done in a weekend AND filming
it would of took me twice as long...
I personally don’t mind long videos. The more time you spend explaining something and mocking it up underneath the Jeep the better I understand it. Also I love white board explanations. Dirt lifestyle does but always seems to stop just short of a full explanation. Overall this was a really informative video and I’m sure anyone that owns a jk has a better idea of what to expect.( tj owner)
Toss the light bar! Especially if your going cross country. The whistling and mall crawler look are wrong for the Jeep. And they are not very useful. But you have new jwspeakers so you should be great!
Another good video Ben. I can't wait until I get a barn built and start working on my own rig.
I like the Barnes stuff. It's priced right too for what you get.
Love your American pride, but.....light bar...I would remove. Thanks for the video. A lot of work under the jeep as well as positioning the camera constantly. Appreciate the effort! My 2020 JLRU should be here any day. I have to (get to) start from scratch again, so appreciate all the how to videos and reviews.
You will have plenty of time for talking about anti squat while driving. Great job man
Can you do a video on welders for home... and how to please... need one for my jeep on a budget
Gotta hand it to you. You know what your'e doing and talking about. Great job!!
Great video Ben. Definitely interested in doing this to mine. Checked out the kit on Barnes and looked the instructions over and there are some changes it looks like. Looks like some of the tubes they give you the measurements for to cut them . The rear upper link has a fixed joint housing now. All good and I'd assume are just improvements in the kits design and function. Thanks for putting this out.
you need to put raptor spray to keep the rust of it looks bad at this time
It’s mostly dirt and mud, I haven’t pressure washed underneath in a while.
I've been waiting for this vid. I built a 3 link on my CJ so looking forward to seeing your setup!
I love barnes products. I found them from watching you. Thanks man.
Wow great video and looks like a great long arm kit for the jk but the only issue I see is the rear axle upper link bracket looks kind of weak I would add more gussets to it. 👍
Wow! Complete awesome video Ben! Something to think about on my JK 🤔😬
A lot of work, but will be worth it!
Awesome 😎. I say leave the light bar on. Never know if you’ll need it. If I see you in the Phx area I’ll buy you a pint 🍺
Cant wait to see it flexed all the way out
Another great vid Ben. You're certainly a jack of all trades.
U want to keep like u said every factory prt or connection or or link as poss, unless bolt on upgrading or adding to what is already there. Spot welding any monkey, & unbolting & drilling is only "kit" that will mass market make money cents/sense.
Well done , lots of informative visual aids . You got Jeep skills !!
Great video. If I drove a corvette it would have a light Bar.
In no particular order, install the falcon 3.3, remove the lightbar 😂 good work just bought a mig because of you 😊 I installed the skid for the falcon 3.3 and want then weld. I'm in practice mode now welding everything I can find 🙄
Love the video! I was wondering what the pros/cons would be of running Enduro joints all away around.
Kinda funny you're building Barnes arms while wearing a core 4x4 hat lol.
I’m unbiased lol. Just like my ultimate Dana Axle crate in my garage 😂.
Love it Ben but scared me a little welding next to your gas tank
yeah, you could always drop it. But its a pretty thick tank, i wouldnt worry about it. Im sure its recommended to drop the tank though lol
Im desinging a mid arm kit for my tj now
Dude, you're stepping it up a notch! Thanks for posting, great info. Cheers.
get ride of the light bar. Nice work.
Heck yea
Awesome video! Really appreciate the work you put in to help us decide!!
Great video. I just installed my diy 1ton draglink to go with my 1 ton aluminum tie rod from Barnes. Looking forward to a price for this kit.
I don't see the 3 link listed for the TJ, only for the JK. Will this still work for the TJ (I would assume it would, but don't want to just assume)?
They don’t have a “kit” for the TJ, but they do sell standard 3 link kits on Barnes. The front would have welded brackets on the frame for uppers and lowers. For the rear, the TJ is very easy to do a 4 link with the uppers triangulated.
Cassie and I will doing this on the Lj in a few months, so if your interested then you can hold off for that install
Great job Ben. That jeep looks awesome. 👍👍