@@dennistucker9081 fear of too much drama. American has a coddling culture problem, where raw problems are seen as entertaining such bad behaviors if not villafied into oblivion. Raw drama shows the gray picture of bad acts, modern viewers like black and white pictures instead. It's less complex and introspective, in favor of comfort and ease of satisfaction. If you want to have good drama, be prepared for it to be scrutinaized as a -ism of some sorts, as showing humanity to something people dislike is like saying a candy diet is bad for your health and getting trampled in the comments by young pre-diabetics. You have to use a choo-choo train brocolli method to give good drama. It's frustrating but the benefit is you learn how to be an excellent parent in the process as well. Today's coddling issue is a byproduct of the comforts and televised fears of modernity, doesn't make it impossible, but it does make it harder for people to mature as the environment doesn't push people to grow, tribalism in essence. When life is hard and you are angry you are drawn to tribalistic tendencies, and when life is too good and you lack purpose and conflict, you also are drawn to tribalism for community. Ironic isn't it, but thus are the consequences of intense hardship and indulgence.
Wonderful voices, particularly Ezio Pinza - his diction, power and control - which gives you shivers. Such passion between the two of them. The final note is simply exquisite. I wonder if music of this quality will ever be created again.
Boy! What a team! I have seen the film many times throughout life but Pinza was wonderful. I would love to have seen him on the stage in this production. Thank you so much for upload.🇬🇧
I saw him on stage as a child - it’s still a very vivid memory. He stepped out on one of the balconies at The Majestic to sing this, and I was mesmerized.
What a blessing that this was recorded, and available for us to see. The Library for Performing Arts at Lincoln Center began recording shows in 1970, but these early TV clips are the only way to see these earlier classic performances. Thank you for posting these!
There are not words powerful enough to capture to awe this performance displays, thank goodness it was recorded. Two theatre legends in a legend of it's own, South Pacific.
I love it!❤ I also want see a other theatre version shows like Oklahoma, The King and I, and The Sound of Music etc.. anyway, Thank you so much for this amazing upload :)
"A song is no song 'til you sing it, A dream is no dream 'til you dream it. And love in your heart wasn't put there to stay. Love isn't love 'til you give it away." Oscar Hammerstein wasn't feeling well and left that on Mary Martins' dressing table, then went home and died. She treasure it. He created the songs for Showboat too. The first Broadway show where black people and white people were both in. He believe in everyone getting the life they should have. He was a truly beautiful person with a beautiful heart.
Famous and a bit odd. How often do they actually sing together? Was this a deliberate move away from tradition towards something more "realistic" on the part of R & H, or was it that their voices were of disparate size? Come to think of it, how many times do Billy and Julie actually sing together in "Carousel"?
Actually, it is well known that Mary Martin did not want to sing at the same time as Ezio Pinza, because he had a trained operatic voice and she did not. So the songs were written such that they never sang at the same time.
@@alissaballot3169 Thank you, very illuminating. R & H made this "limitation" work dramatically. I believe that Mary Martin always insisted that all of her heaviest singing come earlier in a show -- the opposite of many operatically trained voices.
I am here because of an essay by Stephen Jay Gould, an evolutionary biologist. In the essay he made a comment about this song, commenting on Ezio Pinza hitting the tonic on the final note in the song. He was thoroughly roasted by many because the song didn't end on the tonic, but a third above the tonic. He did say that it was done differently at different times, but he found it interesting that while the subject of his essay was extinction events, people focussed on the detail of the end note of this song. Great song, by the way, but I had to hear what he was talking about. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe this version ends on the third above the tonic.
I am here because Larry King mentioned Ezio Pinza in his book Love Stories of World War II. Before he became the toast of Broadway, he was incarcerated for a time on Ellis Island as a "loyalty risk." 😊
So someone on this post thinks Brazzi and Gaynor are better?? 🤣🤣🤣 Brazzi was dubbed by Giorgio Tozzi. He was lip-syncing. Not in the same universe as this.
Richard Rodgers didn't think Pinza was attractive enough for the movie. His daughter, Mary said he thought Pinza was a "fat old geezer." So, there's that
Unless you saw Martin and Pinza perform these roles on stage, you are in no position to judge. (This is clearly re-staged for TV, hardly the same thing.)
@@22lyric Yeah, but he was SO gorgeous. He was in 'Summertime' with Katharine Hepburn & Lord have mercy, he was sublime. When Rodgers, Hammerstein & Logan saw 'Summertime' they all three, independently of each other, knew he was the one. Even though he couldn't sing, he looked the part.
I love both performances film and what we see here. Pinza was a great singer unsurpassed and Rossano, yes he was dubbed by Georgio Tozzi who sang beautifully too . Rossano was gorgeous in appearance and in film Summertime which I love. So I salute all these performers and Mitzi Gaynor.🙏
Modern Broadway can't hold a candle to this!
Your statement is unfortunately, quite true indeed. But why?
@@dennistucker9081 fear of too much drama. American has a coddling culture problem, where raw problems are seen as entertaining such bad behaviors if not villafied into oblivion. Raw drama shows the gray picture of bad acts, modern viewers like black and white pictures instead. It's less complex and introspective, in favor of comfort and ease of satisfaction. If you want to have good drama, be prepared for it to be scrutinaized as a -ism of some sorts, as showing humanity to something people dislike is like saying a candy diet is bad for your health and getting trampled in the comments by young pre-diabetics. You have to use a choo-choo train brocolli method to give good drama. It's frustrating but the benefit is you learn how to be an excellent parent in the process as well. Today's coddling issue is a byproduct of the comforts and televised fears of modernity, doesn't make it impossible, but it does make it harder for people to mature as the environment doesn't push people to grow, tribalism in essence. When life is hard and you are angry you are drawn to tribalistic tendencies, and when life is too good and you lack purpose and conflict, you also are drawn to tribalism for community. Ironic isn't it, but thus are the consequences of intense hardship and indulgence.
I read that Pinza was going to retire but fell in love with this role and fantastic songs.
So glad he did!
That is so passionate. God bless them, and TV, and RUclips, and you.
Wonderful voices, particularly Ezio Pinza - his diction, power and control - which gives you shivers. Such passion between the two of them. The final note is simply exquisite. I wonder if music of this quality will ever be created again.
Stunning! No one has ever come close to Pinza with this song.
Boy! What a team! I have seen the film many times throughout life but Pinza was wonderful. I would love to have seen him on the stage in this production.
Thank you so much for upload.🇬🇧
I saw him on stage as a child - it’s still a very vivid memory. He stepped out on one of the balconies at The Majestic to sing this, and I was mesmerized.
What a blessing that this was recorded, and available for us to see. The Library for Performing Arts at Lincoln Center began recording shows in 1970, but these early TV clips are the only way to see these earlier classic performances. Thank you for posting these!
Larry Hagman's Mother was one of the greatest Broadway performers. She even played Peter Pan.
"Even"? It was one of her most famous roles. The song "Oh My Mysterious Lady" was tailored to her coloratura skills.
Then why don't you identify her by her own name instead of so and so's mother? I find that so diminishing of who she was in her own person.
There are not words powerful enough to capture to awe this performance displays, thank goodness it was recorded. Two theatre legends in a legend of it's own, South Pacific.
Absolutely superb .......!!!!!!!
Martin and Pinza are legends! This special was simulcast on four commercial TV networks--ABC, NBC, CBS and the now-defunct Dumont network.
Class act the pair of them.
I love it!❤ I also want see a other theatre version shows like Oklahoma, The King and I, and The Sound of Music etc.. anyway, Thank you so much for this amazing upload :)
"A song is no song 'til you sing it, A dream is no dream 'til you dream it. And love in your heart wasn't put there to stay. Love isn't love 'til you give it away." Oscar Hammerstein wasn't feeling well and left that on Mary Martins' dressing table, then went home and died. She treasure it. He created the songs for Showboat too. The first Broadway show where black people and white people were both in. He believe in everyone getting the life they should have. He was a truly beautiful person with a beautiful heart.
Heard this as a little boy best musical ever!
So beautiful!!!!!! I never ever get tired of hearing this song.
Wonderful Mary Martin. Pinza is great. A famous duet. One of the greatest R&H shows (operas, really) with Oklahoma and Carousel.
Famous and a bit odd. How often do they actually sing together? Was this a deliberate move away from tradition towards something more "realistic" on the part of R & H, or was it that their voices were of disparate size? Come to think of it, how many times do Billy and Julie actually sing together in "Carousel"?
Actually, it is well known that Mary Martin did not want to sing at the same time as Ezio Pinza, because he had a trained operatic voice and she did not. So the songs were written such that they never sang at the same time.
@@alissaballot3169 Thank you, very illuminating. R & H made this "limitation" work dramatically. I believe that Mary Martin always insisted that all of her heaviest singing come earlier in a show -- the opposite of many operatically trained voices.
I’m wondering why you call it an opera?
I am here because of an essay by Stephen Jay Gould, an evolutionary biologist. In the essay he made a comment about this song, commenting on Ezio Pinza hitting the tonic on the final note in the song. He was thoroughly roasted by many because the song didn't end on the tonic, but a third above the tonic. He did say that it was done differently at different times, but he found it interesting that while the subject of his essay was extinction events, people focussed on the detail of the end note of this song. Great song, by the way, but I had to hear what he was talking about. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe this version ends on the third above the tonic.
Thank you 😊🎉
love you and miss you mum the world lost a beautiful person and what better sound could you leave us than this xxxxxxxxx
I love how tender her voice is. ❤
Com'on, it was his song. She was an afterthought.
Love this song
I saw this scene in the movie Only you with Marissa Tomei and Robert Downy Jr. Such a sweet romantic film❤
Same
Wonderful voices, wonderful song, but boy am I glad staging has become more natural!
Beyond fine…
Beautiful ❤
I am here because Larry King mentioned Ezio Pinza in his book Love Stories of World War II. Before he became the toast of Broadway, he was incarcerated for a time on Ellis Island as a "loyalty risk." 😊
DAMON BRADLEY!!!!!!
I love that movie!❤
His placement is SO dialed in.
So someone on this post thinks Brazzi and Gaynor are better?? 🤣🤣🤣 Brazzi was dubbed by Giorgio Tozzi. He was lip-syncing. Not in the same universe as this.
I loved the film from childhood so love both but Ezio Pinza is really outstanding
Richard Rodgers didn't think Pinza was attractive enough for the movie. His daughter, Mary said he thought Pinza was a "fat old geezer." So, there's that
Outstanding baritone.
Pinza was a bass! Although he did have wonderful high notes😂
The movie was awesome but I loved Pat Boone's up to date version in the early 60's
Es una barbaridad tapar el final con anuncios... rompe el encanto de la canción
Rossano Brazzi & Mitzi Gaynor for me!
Unless you saw Martin and Pinza perform these roles on stage, you are in no position to judge. (This is clearly re-staged for TV, hardly the same thing.)
This performance is much better.
Brazzi was dubbed!
@@22lyric Yeah, but he was SO gorgeous. He was in 'Summertime' with Katharine Hepburn & Lord have mercy, he was sublime. When Rodgers, Hammerstein & Logan saw 'Summertime' they all three, independently of each other, knew he was the one. Even though he couldn't sing, he looked the part.
I love both performances film and what we see here. Pinza was a great
singer unsurpassed and Rossano, yes he was dubbed by Georgio Tozzi
who sang beautifully too . Rossano was gorgeous in appearance
and in film Summertime which I love. So I salute all these performers
and Mitzi Gaynor.🙏
If Nellie Forbush were a social security recipient
On TV her age was more apparent than it was on stage. Five years later she played Maria in The Sound of Music. That was really stretching it.
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🎶 _You are sixty-six, going on sixty-seven_ 🎶
snide
Very snide