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Комментарии • 753

  • @khalifas2011
    @khalifas2011 8 дней назад +1181

    It's always morally right to pirate Adobe products.

    • @itdepends604
      @itdepends604 8 дней назад +37

      True, but it's still better to not use adobe products at all.

    • @JohnDoesSports
      @JohnDoesSports 8 дней назад +97

      If purchasing isn't ownership, then piracy isn't theft.

    • @Thought_Processing_
      @Thought_Processing_ 8 дней назад +25

      @@itdepends604they are good though I just hate the subscription thing.

    • @rtmpgt
      @rtmpgt 8 дней назад +25

      I wouldn’t have a career if I didn’t pirate adobe products lol

    • @CammieRacing
      @CammieRacing 8 дней назад

      @@Thought_Processing_ Just write to them and inform them the TOS are changing and that if they don't reply using certified mail weighing 1.337oz sealed with wax then it'll constitute an agreement with your new TOS.

  • @TravisNewton1
    @TravisNewton1 8 дней назад +304

    Remember: Adobe kick started the whole "you will rent your software and you will like it" movement. Adobe is the reason why you have to rent your software. Never forget it.

    • @wattage2007
      @wattage2007 8 дней назад

      Sounds like they were ahead of the curve, since that's what corporate communism has planned for us by 2030.

    • @pennyandluckpokerclub
      @pennyandluckpokerclub 8 дней назад +4

      that's facts

    • @teresashinkansen9402
      @teresashinkansen9402 8 дней назад +4

      And people just bent and took it. Now that Adobe is so deep that its coming out of their mouth they complain about how the evil Adobe might suffocate them.

    • @blasttyrant3228
      @blasttyrant3228 7 дней назад +8

      GIMP needs to be the industry standard

    • @nevertoolate5325
      @nevertoolate5325 6 дней назад

      You don't have to.

  • @kelvinhbo
    @kelvinhbo 8 дней назад +690

    What else can you expect in a world where infinite growth is expected, but your company is already a monopoly.

    • @BlitzkriegOmega
      @BlitzkriegOmega 8 дней назад +55

      Enshittification at its finest.

    • @EroticInferno
      @EroticInferno 8 дней назад

      Time to seek rent

    • @EroticInferno
      @EroticInferno 8 дней назад

      @@BlitzkriegOmeganah, that’s just rent seeking.

    • @jasonkeith2832
      @jasonkeith2832 8 дней назад +20

      So basically whatever happens to Adobe should be the template for how the FTC goes after Google, Amazon, and Facebook?

    • @sajisama24
      @sajisama24 8 дней назад +14

      @@jasonkeith2832 yes. Essentially yes. Altho those companies are a tiny bit smarter.

  • @roboflex3162
    @roboflex3162 8 дней назад +510

    We need a corporate death penalty

    • @icin4d
      @icin4d 8 дней назад +70

      Should be logical to those who say, "Corporations are people too." Can't have it one way without the other.

    • @SaHaRaSquad
      @SaHaRaSquad 8 дней назад +4

      ​@@icin4d As far as I know that is purely a legal thing to simplify laws, so that companies automatically inherit person-specific rights and laws that also make sense for organizations. Nobody in their right mind who isn't a lawyer would claim companies are people. That said I totally support Adobe getting what they deserve.

    • @roboflex3162
      @roboflex3162 8 дней назад

      @@SaHaRaSquad I don't think mitt Romney is a bar certified lawyer

    • @SaHaRaSquad
      @SaHaRaSquad 8 дней назад +2

      @@roboflex3162 Mitt Romney is indeed a lawyer.

    • @DiegoValle392
      @DiegoValle392 8 дней назад +3

      Make their tools open source

  • @marginis
    @marginis 8 дней назад +392

    Ah yes, Adobe. I got a month free trial once. Tried it for a week and a half, didn't like it, cancelled. I got charged for two months plus a cancellation fee, for a more expensive service than I had the free trial for. It was almost $150 all said and done. I disputed it and got it brought down to a little under $50.
    $50 for half of a free trial.

    • @LuisManuelLealDias
      @LuisManuelLealDias 8 дней назад +18

      Insane.

    • @fuckoff4705
      @fuckoff4705 8 дней назад

      Same, i did a free trial without any other plans to prolong it and they enrolled me automatically into their highest plan, i disputed it with paypal and they went after them, got all my money back

    • @rokusho6667
      @rokusho6667 8 дней назад +22

      “Free trial*”

    • @anzaia2164
      @anzaia2164 8 дней назад +36

      Wtf is a cancellation fee even possibly _for_ with an entirely digital product?

    • @EasyWater
      @EasyWater 8 дней назад

      As vaush said:"they are Hitler"

  • @dakotapahel-short3192
    @dakotapahel-short3192 8 дней назад +336

    Adobe and autodesk are the biggest pieces of sh!t. Truly both companies need to be broken up.

    • @polyticks8453
      @polyticks8453 8 дней назад +17

      Especially Autodesk! OMG

    • @CoreyCat4
      @CoreyCat4 8 дней назад +19

      I don't know what I hate more: Those companies or the fact that RUclips won't let you spell out "mean words" to keep their advertisers happy.

    • @LuisManuelLealDias
      @LuisManuelLealDias 8 дней назад

      @@polyticks8453 AutoCAD should be free software by now. Somehow it still costs thousands per year.

    • @devilfishiii5777
      @devilfishiii5777 8 дней назад

      ​@@polyticks8453 can you explain what's going on with autodesk? I just started learning to use it. Isn't Solidworks a competitor?

    • @50733Blabla1337
      @50733Blabla1337 8 дней назад +23

      Ah yes studying 3D Arts and Game Design "And these are the main software you will learn 3Ds Max and Maya and they come for a cheap price of ALL OF THE MONEY"

  • @SilverDragonJay
    @SilverDragonJay 8 дней назад +164

    damn, I avoid subscriptions so much, I didn't even realize that "cancelation fees" were even legal anymore.
    They really shouldn't be; that's pretty shit.
    Imagine, walking into a store and being charged to _leave._ Not being charged for the things you bought, no, getting an extra charge tacked onto your bill to exit the store even when you are empty handed. I think there would be actual riots if someone tried that.

    • @TheDiabeticGameMaster
      @TheDiabeticGameMaster 8 дней назад +28

      I recently heard that Walmart is going to start demanding people pay a subscription fee to use their self checkouts.... You know. The thing that they've replaced 90 percent of the human cashiers with in any given store? I almost hope it's true because I'm very curious to see what that amount of unbridled rage in a single building is gonna do to people, lol.

    • @hurdygurdyguy1
      @hurdygurdyguy1 6 дней назад +3

      In a physical store you sometimes might be charged a "restocking" fee (which is bull$hit imo) for the returned object, but a fee for cancelling a subscription for software??!! That's the first rule in The P.T. Barnum School of Business: There's A Sucker Born Every Minute!"

    • @wehiird
      @wehiird 18 часов назад

      Privacy App. All day

  • @kaylafoxx41
    @kaylafoxx41 8 дней назад +276

    Been an illustrator for just under 16 years. I pay for adobe for tax purposes, and because it'd be very, very easy for my studio to get in huge trouble without proof of the payment. But I intentionally use an older pirated version anyway.

    • @Blueberry_Koi
      @Blueberry_Koi 8 дней назад +25

      Based based based?

    • @aeolianthecomposer
      @aeolianthecomposer 8 дней назад +10

      Based af

    • @rambodude467
      @rambodude467 8 дней назад +5

      why not use a alternative instead?

    • @Blueberry_Koi
      @Blueberry_Koi 8 дней назад +52

      ​@rambodude467 unfortunately industry standard is Adobe, and client often expect the working files to be in Adobe format

    • @SalvoBrick-eg3uo
      @SalvoBrick-eg3uo 8 дней назад +25

      @@Blueberry_Koi as always, clients are idiots and don't know what they want

  • @daneues94
    @daneues94 8 дней назад +57

    Here are some alternatives to Adobe:
    Blender
    Inkscape
    Affinity Pro
    DaVinci Resolve
    Fusion
    Natron Compositor
    GIMP
    Krita

    • @wesleyreimer3868
      @wesleyreimer3868 8 дней назад

      Pin this, please

    • @maro4324
      @maro4324 7 дней назад +7

      I can vouch for Davinci Resolve, it's a great if not better alternative to premiere pro

    • @daneues94
      @daneues94 7 дней назад

      @@maro4324 it’s excellent. Lightyears ahead of Premiere.

    • @sleepyboysaturn1365
      @sleepyboysaturn1365 7 дней назад +4

      If you are on a mobile device, I would also reccomend Procreate

    • @lightyearsfromhome5385
      @lightyearsfromhome5385 6 дней назад +1

      +1 for Blender & Krita. Throw in LMMS and Audacity, and bam, ya got everything needed to remake a _Gumball_ episode from scratch at home. (Coming up with a coherent script is left as an exercise to the reader.)

  • @laeliuss7495
    @laeliuss7495 8 дней назад +118

    Also, Adobe pulling works from cloud and hardrive to teach to AI is a massive NDA problem for artists. Which is why just last week, many artists just stopped using Photoshop entirely in fear and even some companies forbid their artists from using Photoshop. it's so crazy, they are literally evil.

    • @Roxor128
      @Roxor128 8 часов назад

      If I were CEO of a company, I'd be ordering the IT department to purge all Adobe software from the company's systems immediately and replace it with free stuff that can do the job, even if it is inferior. If the artists complain, the respose would be "Tough luck. We're not risking Adobe's stuff any more. This stuff is safe, so just make the most of it."

  • @diverguy3556
    @diverguy3556 8 дней назад +142

    I discovered The Gimp years ago and have never looked back. F*** Adobe.

    • @kasane1337
      @kasane1337 8 дней назад +30

      Referring to it as "The Gimp" sounds just as weird as hearing Corbyn say "The Ukraine"

    • @VitalVampyr
      @VitalVampyr 8 дней назад +9

      @@kasane1337 That was the most common way to refer to the country for almost all of it's existence while this is probably the first and only time you've seen anyone use the definite article for the open source photoshop alternative.
      If Ukrainian had the same grammar as English we would certainly still most commonly call it "the Ukraine" by the way.

    • @s.e.studios1386
      @s.e.studios1386 8 дней назад +2

      Can I do everything on Gimp that I can on adobe creative cloud

    • @LuisManuelLealDias
      @LuisManuelLealDias 8 дней назад

      @@s.e.studios1386 No, unfortunately you cannot. Photoshop is still light years ahead. But you can try it out. Thing is, they need a lot more resources to pull it off. If they had the same backing that Blender has, they would PWN photoshop to smithereens within 3 years.

    • @CJojo_13_
      @CJojo_13_ 8 дней назад +17

      Gimp is still trash tbh.
      There's better free and paid non Adobe options.
      Edit because all my replies get automatically removed:
      For digital illustration: Clip Studio Paint, Paint Tool Sai, Krita.
      For photo manipulation: Corel Paint Shop Pro, Affinity Photo.

  • @bobloblaw10001
    @bobloblaw10001 8 дней назад +126

    4:53 you are right that spite is an underappreciated motivation.
    One of Dostoyevsky's favorite characters was the low-level bureaucrat that you might expect to be corrupt but in fact is motivated mostly by spite.

    • @DCGreenZone
      @DCGreenZone 8 дней назад +7

      Yes, and he got rather upset if you took his stapler. Ref: Office Space 😂

    • @glitchedoom
      @glitchedoom 8 дней назад +2

      Adobe is definitely being run by Underground Men.

    • @SaHaRaSquad
      @SaHaRaSquad 8 дней назад

      Just like that supreme court justice who publicly said he wants to be in the supreme court to make the left suffer.

  • @dantenarede
    @dantenarede 8 дней назад +65

    They are also cutting access to older physical copies of Photoshop. The software itself still works fine and it doesn't need active support, but now there's a pop-up that says that this isn't a "genuine" copy of photoshop, so you can't use it.
    The reason they are doing it is that, up until CS6, you could buy a permanent copy of photoshop (a one-time payment of hundreds of dollars) and, therefore, have no reason to subscribe to their new, expensive plans.

    • @sum8601
      @sum8601 8 дней назад +16

      yeah, you get around this by blocking the software's access to the internet. I think it might be in the firewall/network settings or something like that, where you get a list of which programs are allowed to access the internet.

    • @milowmilo
      @milowmilo 8 дней назад +6

      @@sum8601 should still be a second lawsuit just due to this move that is a huge audacity.

    • @slayerkeith8304
      @slayerkeith8304 8 дней назад +4

      Didn't they also tell people that they couldn't use the older versions anymore because they're considered "illegal copies" and they could file a lawsuit against you?

    • @NilaSpeaksLoudly
      @NilaSpeaksLoudly 8 дней назад +3

      @@slayerkeith8304not even the most conservative judge would enforce that shit

    • @slayerkeith8304
      @slayerkeith8304 8 дней назад +1

      @@NilaSpeaksLoudly I would hope not. But crazier things have happened.

  • @lmitz
    @lmitz 8 дней назад +28

    My gf is an artist and recently canceled Adobe. She's the type of person to read the full ToS and even she was surprised when she was charged over a hundred dollars to cancel.

    • @lnplum
      @lnplum 8 дней назад +1

      Yeah, it's a "yearly subscription paid monthly". They also offer a monthly subscription that is significantly more expensive. When you cancel you basically get charged for the remainder of the yearly period. They could make this more obvious but they don't want you to think about it.

    • @lmitz
      @lmitz 8 дней назад +2

      @@lnplum yeah we found that out after she asked what the f*ck this like hundred dollar charge was and I looked it up and found some reddit post about it

  • @alexisglaab2572
    @alexisglaab2572 8 дней назад +85

    Adobe is run by demon ghouls: confirmed.

    • @ozibit99
      @ozibit99 8 дней назад +2

      But calling russian war criminals orcs is too much 😊AMIRITE 👍

    • @yoshi_drinks_tea
      @yoshi_drinks_tea 8 дней назад +1

      @@ozibit99Yes

  • @kalle3940
    @kalle3940 8 дней назад +44

    "Adobe is in BIG TROUBLE" - goddamn i hope so!

  • @Nenenanore
    @Nenenanore 8 дней назад +62

    We had to pay 300+ euros (a bit more than 300 dollars, but very similar) to retract from an yearly plan that was forced and explained NOWHERE (And I read EVERYTHING on the pages of every step). Our card was just blocked and we never paid. Fuck them.

    • @Nenenanore
      @Nenenanore 8 дней назад +18

      Edit : this was from a free 3 months trial included with my PC licence
      Edit: Oh well, I thought I edited, instead I responded 💀

    • @SaHaRaSquad
      @SaHaRaSquad 8 дней назад +6

      That's why I refuse to install anything that requires registration for the download or payment information for the test version. It's obvious why they do it and why would I ever trust a company that tries to backstab me from the start.

    • @crazyalcayne
      @crazyalcayne 4 дня назад

      @@SaHaRaSquad That Part!

  • @joetheagent
    @joetheagent 8 дней назад +22

    "Dear DOJ, please apply the testicular torsion to all of Adobe's C suite, thanks." - Voosh

  • @jalioswilinghart
    @jalioswilinghart 8 дней назад +57

    Teddy better be coming back with his fat stick to bash some monopolies

  • @evan5710
    @evan5710 8 дней назад +39

    Im an artist that used Photoshop to help texture my models. about a year ago i switched to Affinity Photo. Its practically the same and can even read/write .psd files. it cost me $50 on sale for a perpetual license.
    PS: please pin to help other artists :)

    • @s.e.studios1386
      @s.e.studios1386 8 дней назад

      You mean you just pay 50 and use it for a year?

    • @50733Blabla1337
      @50733Blabla1337 8 дней назад +5

      @@s.e.studios1386 This is not what perpetual means. It means something like "forever".

    • @evan5710
      @evan5710 8 дней назад

      @@s.e.studios1386 $50 and you get it forever, although I think it’s normally 100 but still much better that adobe’s subscription

    • @mawichan
      @mawichan 8 дней назад

      Oh, good to hear that!
      I have been interested in Affinity software for a while.
      Seems like a good time to take the plunge before they change their sales model.
      At this point I don't mind paying it full price as long as it's a perpetual license

    • @GHOSTSTARSCREAM
      @GHOSTSTARSCREAM 8 дней назад

      @@s.e.studios1386 the OP said "perpetually" which means life-time/forever of the purchase

  • @rubberwoody
    @rubberwoody 8 дней назад +93

    Broke: too big to fail
    Woke: to big to keep alive

    • @blankspace6367
      @blankspace6367 8 дней назад

      croak: 2 big 2 b born in the 1st place

    • @FatalAlcatraz
      @FatalAlcatraz 8 дней назад +2

      Agreed. Like the energy-to-size-ratio science thingy, animals can't become too gargantuan because they couldln't eat enough to maintain their weight. Elephants already spend most of their time grazing. Bit autistic take, but you get it.

    • @yourex-wife4259
      @yourex-wife4259 7 дней назад +1

      Stroke

    • @redpepper74
      @redpepper74 4 дня назад +1

      @@yourex-wife4259Stroke: too bib t adobobe

  • @alinashard8967
    @alinashard8967 8 дней назад +36

    This is small beans compared to the lawsuit, but I'm a mostly freelance artist, and I'm close to my first proper industry job, considered getting adobe to learn the tools they want me to be familiar with and learnt that an adobe CC license for a single person is about 60 a month, an adobe CC license for 20 people in a business is 65
    its so clearly to gatekeep poorer artists that arent able to get in yet from learning industry skills its hell

    • @patchoulidaze7193
      @patchoulidaze7193 6 дней назад +1

      Most artists I know either pirate or use other art software, and these are the free lancers as well

  • @tirushone6446
    @tirushone6446 8 дней назад +40

    honestley with how painful adobe's pricing is I am surprised they havn't included lootboxes in the mix somewhere yet

    • @Kickiusz
      @Kickiusz 8 дней назад +5

      Imagine:
      Lootboxes with filters inside
      Different rarity of filters, based on their usage (the most common ones all change people faces to various fruits and vegetables)
      There's a guarantee of getting a non-duplicate filter every pull (and a fine print somewhere in the 500 pages long EULA stating that every time you get a duplicate, Photoshop automatically rolls the dice again and bills you for every roll)

    • @NATE-op9tq
      @NATE-op9tq 8 дней назад

      Shocked adobe doesn't have some annoying little immovable ad in the corner for Dreamweaver/product no one will use

    • @ac4941
      @ac4941 8 дней назад +2

      What if every filter was also an NFT?

    • @bzzzzzzzzzz2075
      @bzzzzzzzzzz2075 7 дней назад +4

      ⁠@@Kickiuszdo NOT manifest this

    • @zapzap1485
      @zapzap1485 6 дней назад

      You buy lootboxes with a month license for their random softwares
      Thats sounds absurdly bad

  • @deathshop2172
    @deathshop2172 8 дней назад +15

    you have to do something so absolutely fucked to not only violate the toothless US consumer protection laws, but also get the government mad enough to sue you over it.

  • @gravelmonarch
    @gravelmonarch 8 дней назад +11

    My adobe CS6 is now considered "non genuine software" even though I saved up and FUCKING BOUGHT IT. Buying a whole CS6 was alot for me.
    How is it legal to take away something I literally bought?!?!

    • @WishGender
      @WishGender 7 дней назад +1

      I saw someone say you could go into firewall settings or something to take away your CS6's internet access but idk if that works

  • @citanulthelunatic
    @citanulthelunatic 8 дней назад +15

    My boyfriend is a graphic designer and has a coffee mug with "Adobe Haters Club" on it made by his friend in media school

  • @toukiski
    @toukiski 8 дней назад +16

    it actually is amazing how they can charge as much as they do but still have some of the clunkiest, most frustrating and unintuitive user interfaces i’ve ever seen (looking at you, especially, illustrator)

    • @GHOSTSTARSCREAM
      @GHOSTSTARSCREAM 8 дней назад +2

      That's what happens when you control overr a huge percentage (or all of it) in said industry. At that point, you essentially have no competitors and therefore, you can intentionally make your product as terrible as you want.

    • @lightyearsfromhome5385
      @lightyearsfromhome5385 6 дней назад +1

      @@GHOSTSTARSCREAM
      > you essentially have no competitors and therefore, you can intentionally make your product as terrible as you want.
      _See also:_ Autodesk, Microsoft

    • @GHOSTSTARSCREAM
      @GHOSTSTARSCREAM 6 дней назад

      @lightyearsfromhome5385 What are you adding here?

    • @lightyearsfromhome5385
      @lightyearsfromhome5385 6 дней назад +1

      @@GHOSTSTARSCREAM _Autodesk:_ Maya (crashes during long renders with no error message, crashes on startup on most Linuxes, their officially-supported distro is one most creatives don't use), _Microsoft:_ Windows 11 (if you've used it, you know)

  • @britishninja
    @britishninja 8 дней назад +30

    Heart-warming
    Diabolical company is having an awful day.

    • @teresashinkansen9402
      @teresashinkansen9402 8 дней назад +1

      I don't think so, their market price grew 22% in a month, it never fell, they are doing better than they have been in 2 years.

    • @dallenpowell2745
      @dallenpowell2745 6 дней назад

      @@teresashinkansen9402 Not anymore they're not. The Great Adobe Exodus has begun!

    • @teresashinkansen9402
      @teresashinkansen9402 6 дней назад

      @@dallenpowell2745 Well lets see in a few days, today it had a growth of 0.65% and on average it had a growth of 1.4% daily since the TOS announcement, so the growth seems to be slowing down, i think the news of the sue was what actually what did the thing.

  • @MovieEggman
    @MovieEggman 8 дней назад +13

    That cancellation fee was one of the most painful things that happened to me. Finally, Justice will be served.

  • @wheatgerm1208
    @wheatgerm1208 8 дней назад +10

    Old-time graphic artist here. In the pre-subscription days, Photoshop was really the only tool capable of print-quality graphic production, and the price tag on the software was close to a thousand dollars. That was a big nut for freelancers and one-artist studios. The offering of subscription pricing enticed a lot of these folks due to the easy monthly payment scam. Like credit cards, the ultimate cost was rarely calculated or understood. I've been out so long this seriously didn't affect me, but yeah, they're evil.

  • @Skeeeewoah
    @Skeeeewoah 8 дней назад +12

    Adobe's product model is genuinely the best argument against capitalism (for a completely digital product) I've ever seen.

    • @teresashinkansen9402
      @teresashinkansen9402 8 дней назад +1

      It is sad that no matter what philosophy humans will always turn into the same money/power seeking fiasco.

    • @07wrxtr1
      @07wrxtr1 5 дней назад

      No. It’s an argument against monopoly power.
      We have antitrust legislation bipartisan passed on the books since 1914.
      The problem is that corporations own daddy government
      We nolonger have functioning capitalism
      We now have Fascism = the marriage of corporations and DADDY government

  • @JARV9701
    @JARV9701 8 дней назад +12

    Adobe and Autodesk having the biggest share of responsibility on why there are so many 1 time used gmail accounts.

  • @JoshSweetvale
    @JoshSweetvale 8 дней назад +10

    Product is product.
    Brand loyalty is artificial religion.

  • @Anthonest1
    @Anthonest1 8 дней назад +8

    Im a graphic designer, I frequently use Adobe stock, 9/10ths of it has become AI generated garbage that still shows up even when you filter it out.

  • @JacobSprenger
    @JacobSprenger 8 дней назад +13

    Shareholders never get enough flak, imo. Including in gaming. For exmaple, there may be reasons not to like Valve & Steam particularly much, but just imagine what a mess they'd quickly become, if Valve were to go public... Has any shareholder ever rewarded their corporation for doing the right thing? Nope, the only criterion is profit, regardless of how it's made, morals and ethics be damned. It's not only the CEO's, people. The only ones who can't really be blamed are the poor workhorses actually making the products, while the work environment gets worse and worse in service of "Shareholder Value Maximization", the only business philosphy still present in the board member's handbook.

    • @Roxor128
      @Roxor128 8 часов назад

      It's not profit that's the only criterion for these delusional investors and CEOs, but something even worse: growth. Merely being profitable and paying steady dividends isn't enough. They insist on endless growth. These people have the brains of a cancer cell.

  • @azuresky2301
    @azuresky2301 8 дней назад +8

    People who made fun of Biden's war on "junk fees" as a small or meaningless action don't realize that it includes things like this. In line with this, the DOJ seems to be putting a greater emphasis on consumer protections. A similar thing is happening with ASUS about their warranty policies, which they have changed after a ton of pressure from the community and the threat of investigations by the FTC and DOJ. Whether they hold to it or not is another story, but the potential of actual consequences if they don't is nice.

  • @Kalepsis
    @Kalepsis 8 дней назад +5

    Nothing you use their products to create is owned by you, apparently it's owned by Adobe.
    If buying isn't owning, pirating isn't stealing.

  • @workdevice7808
    @workdevice7808 8 дней назад +7

    O2 the mobile phone comapny in the UK are even worse. I called them to buy some more data when I was outside the UK. They told me it would be cheaper to upgrade my contract instead, so I did. They never told me that what they were actually doing was locking me into a new contract again, after I had long been released from my old one and was just paying monthly. I then started getting huge bills every month so I called to cancel the upgrade. They told me the upgrade was the same as a new contract and I was locked in for 24 months and the only way I could cancel the contract was by paying the full amount of the remaining 24 months as a cancellation fee, which of course made cancellation pointless. The UK is a hyper-corrupt country so nothing gets done. Good to see the US at least doing something for the consumer.

  • @sayrahjohans3559
    @sayrahjohans3559 8 дней назад +9

    I was a multimedia major and all of my classes gravitated around learning different Adobe software instead of learning the mediums and various software.
    Vector graphics was literally just “adobe illustrator”
    And yeah sure I can work on other software but god talk about being setup for a learning curve.

    • @grass7864
      @grass7864 8 дней назад +1

      Same thing happened to me when I took multimedia classes in college. The entire course revolved around Adobe software that I couldn't afford OR run on my old computer at the time. I learned some industry things here and there, but without access to the programs off-campus, I had no hope of building my skill set up to industry standard.

    • @WishGender
      @WishGender 7 дней назад

      I took a "2D graphics" class for my old major that was just a Photoshop class.

  • @darksidegryphon5393
    @darksidegryphon5393 8 дней назад +6

    0:28 each one of them is a horcrux of Hitler.

  • @AegixDrakan
    @AegixDrakan 8 дней назад +5

    Having experienced Testicular Torsion and not wanting anyone else to experience such pain....... I would make an exception for Adobe. They're just plain evil with how they're doing their business.

  • @SteveScapesYT
    @SteveScapesYT 8 дней назад +8

    It’s still using CS6 Suite off of Virtual Machine old OS b/c it makes more sense to deal with VM providers than whatever Adobe is selling these days.

  • @cake_9510
    @cake_9510 8 дней назад +5

    Everybody draw hyper furry tentacle stuff so that the tech bros can't get the ai images they want when they try generating

    • @Roxor128
      @Roxor128 8 часов назад

      You're assuming they're not generating that stuff already. You can totally get Stable Diffusion models that will do it.

  • @PlanetDeLaTourette
    @PlanetDeLaTourette 8 дней назад +8

    Some people say I'm cynical and dark. I call that: being correct. I predicted this total overreach: pulling your work and creativity from your resources, it being owned by the monopolistic tools with which it's made, to sell it before you considered it worthwhile.
    Bits and bytes are too universal to really own. This is a huge issue. But the user end looks like that lego for toddlers. Players want to reduce this to a remote to a TV.

  • @FNLNFNLN
    @FNLNFNLN 8 дней назад +3

    No one is taking the CS6 saved on my hard drive away from me.

  • @eryqeryq
    @eryqeryq 8 дней назад +3

    This is why I use GIMP instead of Photoshop. The cost is just too ridiculous.

  • @kirishima638
    @kirishima638 8 дней назад +9

    If it was just Photoshop then it would no issue. PS has plenty of competition.
    The problem is the massive Adobe ecosystem: Premier After Effects (and all the paid plugins you’re forced to buy), Illustrator, Indesign, Bridge…
    All these products work together and have no equal so if your business is dependent on them you’re at their mercy.
    It’s a cast iron monopoly.

    • @hyceate-p
      @hyceate-p 8 дней назад +1

      This! All those after effects plugins that are absolutely amazing but stuck in said program. 😢

    • @kirishima638
      @kirishima638 8 дней назад

      @@hyceate-p yeah I helped write some of them

    • @FunAngelo2005
      @FunAngelo2005 8 дней назад +1

      Animate

    • @NilaSpeaksLoudly
      @NilaSpeaksLoudly 8 дней назад

      You don’t know to creatively use other software. You refuse what is inconvenient, new, uncharted territory. Don’t ask for permission, use what works and pretend you didn’t.
      Like chemist that refuse electrochemistry. In the chemical industry they sometimes refuse some good viable rxs cause they are unusual. Pathetic.The real pros just write their own shaders and code solutions in CGI. Either learn plugging coding or use other tools. Also while Illustrator is big the other ones you mentioned have plenty of competition . Premier InDesign and AfterEffects are not monopolies.
      This is like when people
      would rather eat shit and use Office cause they are scared of Linux.

    • @kirishima638
      @kirishima638 8 дней назад

      @@NilaSpeaksLoudly what a load of rubbish

  • @dichotomae
    @dichotomae 8 дней назад +4

    I’m on a family plan for adobe software, and I was not aware that cloud storage was on by default. I only discovered this when my dad told me to please delete the inappropriate drawings from the adobe account.

  • @stephenbailey9969
    @stephenbailey9969 8 дней назад +6

    I used photoshop for years until they went to the subscription system. No more.

    • @s.e.studios1386
      @s.e.studios1386 8 дней назад +1

      what do you use now.

    • @stephenbailey9969
      @stephenbailey9969 8 дней назад

      @@s.e.studios1386 I've used Corel's PaintShop Pro or Canon's Digital Photo Pro or Skylum's Luminar.

  • @gilgabro420
    @gilgabro420 8 дней назад +9

    fuck adobe I have it pirated.

  • @kalliejupiter7018
    @kalliejupiter7018 8 дней назад +3

    Adobe is what you point to whenever someone says some new technology is going to “democratize” art in some hyperbolic, post-capitalist revolutionary way

  • @void-creature
    @void-creature 8 дней назад +5

    Whenever I hear the word "Adobe", Miracle of Sound's "Beneath the black flag" starts playing in my head.

    • @Roxor128
      @Roxor128 8 часов назад +1

      Yo-ho! Yo-ho!
      We click beneath the black flag.
      A torrenting we go,
      We own the sea and sky.
      Yo-ho! Yo-ho!
      We click beneath the black flag.
      A torrenting we go,
      We bleed the corpos dry.

    • @void-creature
      @void-creature 2 часа назад

      @@Roxor128
      Out on the endless websites
      We stream along the gales
      With rum inside our bellies warm
      And freeware in our sails

  • @serialk86salt51
    @serialk86salt51 8 дней назад +3

    "AAAAHH, YOU KILLED ME!!"
    Zelda CDI: *THUMBNAIL TEXT*

  • @Dooferification
    @Dooferification 8 дней назад +29

    Adobe also provides its software to schools so you are taught on it. I was given a student key when i took a class in college

    • @ASTH-yf9uu
      @ASTH-yf9uu 8 дней назад +3

      Found the botted comment, gtfo

    • @Dooferification
      @Dooferification 8 дней назад +1

      @@ASTH-yf9uu i am bott beep boop. I am caught beep powering down

    • @rainbowkrampus
      @rainbowkrampus 8 дней назад

      That's where they get most of their money from. And since institutions and large firms are reticent to change and slow to do so even if they can overcome the fear, Adobe feels completely safe.
      Anyone who isn't locked into an institution should get away from Adobe ASAP.

    • @samuelrodgers2742
      @samuelrodgers2742 8 дней назад

      Nvidia also does the same with CUDA where they seed schools and universities with CUDA hardware for scientific research so that an entire generation of students will grow up learning CUDA and will remain in the Nvidia hardware ecosystem in the future

    • @sHinobu2969
      @sHinobu2969 8 дней назад +1

      My highschool laptop had free photoshop as well, didn't stop me just using krita when I got a new pc and realised how much actually paying for photoshop would be

  • @wattage2007
    @wattage2007 8 дней назад +3

    Their software is so big it's become a verb. They obviously think they are untouchable and it's great to see the customer telling them otherwise. It's high time Adobe were gone.

  • @timsheehan1541
    @timsheehan1541 8 дней назад +3

    Adobe fucked me so hard for years.
    I signed up for $25 a month student deal.
    And then it went up to $80 a month.
    Like being a working and needing to rent your tools or you can’t work.
    They often took my last $80 when I was broke.
    It is like have to rent a car as the only option for work.
    But the company constantly adds new features you don’t need in order to charge more.

  • @TK-bx5qs
    @TK-bx5qs 8 дней назад +5

    Serif Affinity Suite!

  • @Huntsman6791
    @Huntsman6791 8 дней назад +3

    I got out of my cancelation fee by accepting their "Oh no just downgrade so we dont lose you" and then i just cancelled that with no fee and then requested a refund. THEN I went to support and made them refund me for the past several months that i wasn't even using their software that i was paying for

  • @graysonllewellyn8734
    @graysonllewellyn8734 8 дней назад +3

    I started college when the CC shit started. The college MADE US PAY FOR OUR OWN SUBS. After college I immediately moved on to GIMP and SAI and have never looked back. I don't care if it's jank. The tools do not make the artist and do not let anyone tell you otherwise. I had to pay over 100 USD to get them to stop charging me monthly for a service I didn't even want. I had to make so many phone calls to make it all stop. I've had lice as a kid whose eggs were easier to remove than adobe's claws.

  • @toukiski
    @toukiski 8 дней назад +4

    me rn as an artist:
    🦀🎶🦀🎶 🦀🎶🦀
    ( & i hope this is just the beginning of much, much, more to come for them! )

  • @blankspace6367
    @blankspace6367 8 дней назад +3

    surprised Adobe hasn’t gone extinct already, since they’re such an old dinosaur of a company

  • @TakManSan
    @TakManSan 8 дней назад +3

    Punishing creators because they can ‘Art’ and these bean counters can’t so they are spoilers to the creators that are their prey.

  • @rebootcomputa
    @rebootcomputa 8 дней назад +5

    I feel bad for those that want Open Source alternatives and want to use Linux but are still using WIndows because there isnt a good alternative to some of the tools they need to use in the Adobe suite, am lucky I never liked or used those tools so am not hooked into them, and can use Linux

  • @Chrjstheshadow
    @Chrjstheshadow 8 дней назад +2

    I remember picking up photoshop for a CS project I had to do a few years back and wanting to throw up when a month later it said I’d have to pay like $250 to cancel

  • @seantaylor8114
    @seantaylor8114 8 дней назад +2

    Adobe charging hundreds of dollars a year for its bloated, shitty programs is nuts. There are alternatives, many of which are FOSS, which can do everything most people need without costing all the money and RAM that adobe products do.

  • @bobjones2959
    @bobjones2959 8 дней назад +5

    Tbh I never knew about this. Evil truly is banal sometimes.

  • @cdcdrr
    @cdcdrr 8 дней назад +1

    "Hello? Yeah, I would like to cancel my Adobe subscription."
    " *KGGGGGGGGT* -breaking up... *KGGGGGGGT* -going through a tunnel... *KKGGGGGGGT* -repeat that?"
    "Sir, are you actually just making noises to convince me there's interference?"
    " *KGGGGGGT* coming from the skies! *KGGGGGGGGT* under attack! Call- *KGGGGGGGGT* -resist the visitors... *KGGGGGGT* -Godzilla, run!"

  • @iammotanz
    @iammotanz 8 дней назад +1

    People really underestimate the extensive surveillance companies have on us on the regular, if you have a cellphone then "someone" surely knows EVERYTHING about you.

  • @hollypop368
    @hollypop368 8 дней назад +2

    I got an adobe ad right before this video. They know.

  • @jibbibious
    @jibbibious 8 дней назад +1

    all of this is happening as my mom just took up a job at adobe. very awkward conversations asking her about her job and if she likes it given all of this

  • @TheLizardKing752
    @TheLizardKing752 8 дней назад +1

    One thing that really sucks is because Adobe is such an industry heavyweight, other software developers are railroaded into to copying their subscription model.

  • @bedelian
    @bedelian 8 дней назад +1

    As someone who makes his money using premiere pro, it is astounding how well the software used to work 8 years ago and how I can barely call it a functioning software today.

  • @mediadunce653
    @mediadunce653 8 дней назад +2

    I don’t make a lot of art.
    But when I do…
    I use Gimp

  • @oliverheinen5440
    @oliverheinen5440 8 дней назад +3

    As a student I couldn’t agree more. We’re being forced to use Adobe and they are charging us 20€/month. I’m usually using affinity software which is in my opinion way more intuitive and with a one time payment of around 70€ way cheaper than Adobe. Of course they’re lacking a couple of features here and there but so far that hasn’t been a problem for me. I’m just waiting for this semester to end so that I can finally cancel my subscription and delete every bit of this shit off of my computer. I really hope the US is getting this done properly and ideally the EU should kick some Adobe a** next

    • @NilaSpeaksLoudly
      @NilaSpeaksLoudly 8 дней назад

      If you are in college you don’t pirate it? Seriously?

    • @oliverheinen5440
      @oliverheinen5440 7 дней назад

      @@NilaSpeaksLoudly a lot of friends had problems with those. Like suddenly not being able to log in to their accounts or losing their data so I thought I’d play it safe…

  • @adammiller9029
    @adammiller9029 8 дней назад +2

    5:00 the guy who lead Adobe's transition from their older on-premise single install business model to their cloud business model gave a speech to my company about how to do that succesfully. I can state for sure, he was a gigantic dick and if his ethics have anything to do with how others behave at adobe, none of them care about their customers, they're just monsters who don't care how much pain crap-i-fying their product causes.

  • @Echo81Rumple83
    @Echo81Rumple83 8 дней назад +1

    i was a lifelong Adobe fan since i was able to learn how to use it in college (from the now-defunct Art Institute in the early 2000s before i dropped). it reinforced my understanding between clockwise and counterclockwise among other things pertaining to creating digital art. when i saw the subscription feature roll in, i stuck with my CS4 Photoshop for as long as i could before the newer Windows OS was like "i dunno waht tu du wif d'ese, buu-huu-hoo..." and i swapped to Clip Studio Paint.
    the fact that Adobe is being sued up to the top of the food chain means they royally pissed someone off who was more powerful than them: other executives from the entertainment industries who're tryna make the bottom-line "adequate" for their shareholders as well. this is right up there with the Unity(?) engine megacorp getting too greedy to the point that Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo were threatening to bust their kneecaps for extorting THEM.
    i'mma get some more popcorn 😈🍿

  • @RealTalkWithRickyPaquiot
    @RealTalkWithRickyPaquiot 8 дней назад +2

    I used the Adobe thumbnail maker for the last 4 months since January *(I've stopped in May due to Chromebook login issues)* and it's disappointing that Adobe isn't being transparent with it's deadline. I thought when I use the Adobe thumbnail maker that the *"limted time"* deadline would be over as soon as I complete the monthly generative credits in 30 days but I've never knew it would take this long.
    *And don't get me wrong I love that, but if Adobe didn't push a scummy tatic to make people pay to use their services by raising prices Adobe would have been better off leaving what they had beforehand, alone.*
    *Now I'm just afraid of logging back in a month later to find out if I'm no longer gonna use the free thumbnail maker.*

  • @abethecop1
    @abethecop1 8 дней назад +1

    5:10 “vampires” is the word used to describe these people in folklore.

  • @arondschiltz547
    @arondschiltz547 8 дней назад +1

    Bought Afinity 6-7 years ago and never looked back. Even after they launched 2.0, there is still no real barrier to installing my old license on as many machines as I want. From a hobbiests end, it is every bit as good as Photoshop. Well worth the 60$

  • @WhoElseButJarjosa
    @WhoElseButJarjosa 8 дней назад +2

    I pay $60 a month for the Creative Cloud. It's a necessary evil for my line of work.

  • @trippingthelight
    @trippingthelight 8 дней назад +2

    I keep getting trapped into keeping my subscription b/c it often costs the same or more to cancel. I use it _just_ enough that I just go "well f-ck it" and then do the same thing in a few months. I hate it so much.

    • @Xeridanus
      @Xeridanus 8 дней назад

      Install GIMP and cancel that subscription right now.

    • @trippingthelight
      @trippingthelight 8 дней назад

      @@Xeridanus I don't want to be charged $75 and I'm only talking about Acrobat

    • @Xeridanus
      @Xeridanus 8 дней назад

      @@trippingthelight Sunk cost fallacy.

    • @trippingthelight
      @trippingthelight 7 дней назад

      @@Xeridanus it's almost like that's what all the litigation is about 🙄

  • @Unknown-qj9sm
    @Unknown-qj9sm 8 дней назад +1

    I have a poor friend who was would have been put into debt for cancelling adobe and had to just keep paying high rates each month he could technically afford if barely because of how bad they are

  • @calmhorizons
    @calmhorizons 8 дней назад +1

    All of these companies moving to subscription models seemed to forget that capitalism is a thing and competitors would take away their customers as soon as they could build even somewhat comparable products.

  • @hachi9404
    @hachi9404 8 дней назад +1

    I bought adobe for a month to help out my friend with his editing, it was like 20 bucks but this is a good friend so I didnt mind. then I got charged 50 dollars to cancel my plan, I was LIVID. and that was in like 2020, so I can only imagine how much worse its gotten

  • @Iban-Underground
    @Iban-Underground 4 дня назад +1

    I had to pay for adobe myself for my job. $900 buckaroos per year. I love it here.

  • @comradenygma86
    @comradenygma86 8 дней назад +1

    Proprietary garbage needs to be done away with.. FREE HUMAN BEINGS.. FREE SOFTWARE

  • @krishacz
    @krishacz 8 дней назад +1

    anyway reminder that clip studio costs $60 for a perpetual licence (i got it at a discout for only 20) and has pledged not to use any AI features

  • @emilands3635
    @emilands3635 3 дня назад +1

    I bought the last possible Photoshop license you could use infinitely, right before it became rental. I use the software maybe 10 times a year. Renting would be useless for me.

  • @pixels_per_minute
    @pixels_per_minute 8 дней назад

    They're basically running an extortion ring. Never pay for an Adobe product.

  • @kitec
    @kitec 8 дней назад +1

    Hey lets not forget to include Autodesk in there. Before you had Maya, 3D Studio Max, Softimage XSI, and over the last decade and a half Autodesk has acquired allllll of them.

  • @gabrierz
    @gabrierz 8 дней назад

    I forgot to cancel my Adobe plan once. The fee was about 200$. I instantly called Adobe and the support man was great, He postponed the cancellation fee by 2 days. Happy ending has to pay nothing

  • @beachmobjellies
    @beachmobjellies 8 дней назад +1

    You forgot to mention that since they introduced their subscription model like 12 years ago they also pretty much stopped developing their core apps after about two years in. So now you pay monthly a massive amount for software that is pretty much the same as their 12 year old version. They took all the money and bought Allegorithmic instead for the substance apps. Allegorithmic originally had a rent to own model. You would think "at least now I get the substance apps included in the adobe cloud." Hear the Adobe executives laugh at us for years. Of course you have to pay DOUBLE to get that. Naturally they also immediately stopped developing all around the substance core apps and the UI is as clunky as it was 10 years ago. Instead there are now many useless apps no one gives a crap around adobe 3d. Get that: they even deprecated the poor 3d functionality from photoshop to get you to pay double just to make a normal map. And the double crosser in chief former Allegorithmic CEO Sebastien Deguy became VP of Adobe 3D. "You were supposed to defeat them, not join them." They should all burn in hell until eternity.

  • @gg-dy6cf
    @gg-dy6cf 8 дней назад +1

    CSP has surpassed photoshop in every way

  • @stefheikamp1895
    @stefheikamp1895 5 дней назад

    Had an annual subscruption with Adobe, cancelled it a week before it was supposed to renew and was hit with not only a giant cancellation fee but also half of the yearly price.
    So for the past 5 years I have been enjoying my free pirated version instead.

  • @NeptunesHorses5909
    @NeptunesHorses5909 8 дней назад

    The standard action for many large and small corporations doing documentation and images was/is to stay at 6, the version at which they last bought physical copies of software for the department.

  • @nobodyisperfect1564
    @nobodyisperfect1564 4 дня назад

    Adobe and Boeing show that management is not thinking about the consumer, who brings in the money. Only about the shareholders, who take the money. 🤷‍♂

  • @richardpreston7333
    @richardpreston7333 4 дня назад

    The fact that RUclips made me watch an ad for Adobe before this video played amuses me

  • @ericafordham6753
    @ericafordham6753 8 дней назад +1

    I'm so glad Adobe has never had a real hold in the audio space, tho sadly pro tools looks to be going down the adobe path as well.

    • @Novalarke
      @Novalarke 8 дней назад

      I figure, who needs ProTools when we've got Reaper, which is a demonstrably better program for standard "tape recorder paradigm" recording? ProTools is owned by AVID, and AVID is (I throw up a little in the back of my throat to say this) actually more evil than Adobe. They're just not as big as Adobe. I run Reaper for recording and Ableton for performances. ProTools is just a big NOPE from me. Cheers!

  • @K7ZHK
    @K7ZHK 8 дней назад

    Adobe has a huge office near me south of Salt Lake City. I’ve spoken to plenty of people and friends that have applied there for computer science / programming jobs and they are notorious for having AT LEAST 6 rounds of interviews. One friend mentioned he was in his 8th round. All to be told rejected with no explanation after your 32nd panel interview.

  • @forest_gamingredux8156
    @forest_gamingredux8156 7 дней назад

    Thank god they are getting this. I signed up for adobe and when I tried to cancel I had no idea they had some outrageous cancellation charges. I was furious. I will never use Photoshop ever again.