Let's see... David Cone, Roy Halladay, Dallas Braden, Felix Hernandez, Randy Johnson, David Wells, Sandy Koufax, Don Larsen (only know that one because it was in the World Series) and I think Cy Young threw one if I'm not mistaken. It's pathetic that MLB still hasn't fixed this horrible mistake. This might actually be worse than not vacating the 2017 World Series, since the runner is so obviously out and the play would have ended the game
The tigers gave him a truck.. forgot if it was the F-250 or whatever...not the point..they did this the next game...made a point to embarrass the f*** out of Joyce...forced to give a sorry hug (I wish Galarraga would have strangled him and his amateur porn producer stash) ..pretended to cry..maybe he did. Wasn't he "invited to retire"? ... still on that ..I'm now not sure if it was ESPN or HBO special.. but same regret, same tears, ALOT of them...then says that he ...if he could.. WOULD NOT change anything? Just as mystifying as that 2 step missed call. Armando knows what happened was legendary and if they change it.. which should have no objections since he did finish the game perfect (28) ... either way there's only one clear villain and one excellent player (things didn't go to well if I remember in his career afterwards or soon afterwards..not sure why?) and obviously an incredible person!!!
Yes but every baseball fan there is knows let’s be real this is a perfect game mlb should award it especially since he got the next out anyway it’s crazy looking at old clips when replay wasn’t a thing now it’s like how can you not have replay
Yup. It’s not the same but if it happened in today’s manager challenge era, it would have obviously been overturned. So, it’s an unofficial perfect game. The crazy thing is you can see the umpire initially making a motion to call him out and made a split decision to change his mind. Crazy. As a ump, you gotta go with your first instinct.
The fact that there was no replay/challenge/overturn system in MLB yet is why baseball was such a joke. The fact that this wasn’t immediately corrected into an out and perfect game is a disgrace.
I remember a game between the Yankees and Blue Jays, not a game anyone would remember, but i do remember one play, and this game was before the challenge/review rule when a play was called and stayed as called no matter what. A Jays batter hit a ground ball and rushed to first, the play was close and was called safe, but for some reason the four umps got together after the play and decided to change the call to out. That´s the only time i witnessed something like that before the rules changed. So i keep scratching my head, wondering why the umps could do that in a rather meaningless game but not with aperfect game on the line? I just don´t understand.
@@oswaldoibarra8889 hey man, plays like this weren’t ‘reviewable’ but if an ump had any doubt they could refer to the other umps and see if anyone else saw it better. It’s typical still for leagues without review, but no umpire can override another’s call unless that ump specifically defers. Just like when somebody checks a swing and home plate asks first base ump if he went, it’s a defer call. Should’ve done it here, but Jim Joyce wasn’t about to do that, he was screaming at the tigers coach instead
@@stephencaldwell5045 I find it so infuriating that the entire stadium was booing and even the runner looked disappointed, but Jim’s ego would let him admit that maybe he got it wrong.
Couldn’t agree more. That’s what I don’t understand about the MLB. This was clearly the wrong call. That would’ve been the last out. He threw a perfect game. Why can’t they give him credit?? In addition to (at the time) adopting instant replay.
I go to about 3 tigers games per year, and I just happened to be at this one. They kept flashing the replay on the big screen for everyone to see, and I'm not kidding you when I say that I legitimately, honestly thought Jim Joyce's life was in danger that night. I kept thinking that they needed to send a couple dozen security and police out there to immediately get him off the field. The feeling in the air was really intense-- even a bit scary. If this same crowd were at a soccer game in Central America, I have absolutely no doubt that a massive riot would have taken place. Usually everyone leaves around the bottom of the 8th, but thousands and thousands of people hung around in the stands for over an hour after this game ended. Even after it became completely clear to everyone that the game was 100% over, we just kept standing there. I think we were all waiting for some kind of loudspeaker announcement that Jim Joyce was "taking it back". Everyone was just starring at their phones, checking news sites, and telling the people around them that MLB would certainly be changing the call any minute and we could all cheer about it (even though we were all baseball fans so we knew that definitely wasn't happening). It was a really, really weird night.
That very day this "incident" occurred, I immediately noticed that Galarraga was bobbling the ball as he was tagging the bag. Jim Joyce actually got this call correct but for a different reason. I replayed this at quarter speed and can clearly see how he did not have full control of the ball while it was in his glove, further evidenced by the ball sliding further into his glove after the batter crossed first base. But no one ever talked about that; I kept bringing it up but no ran else ran with this. Again, the umpire got the call correct even though not in a direct manner.
The pitcher handled this better than I did. I was calling for the umpire to be suspended for that garbage call. And by the way, I am an Indians/Guardians fan.
I refuse to accept this as anything other than the only 28 out perfect game in MLB history. That was probably the greatest show of human grace and forgiveness ever caught on film! Jim Joyce knew he blew the call and he took it worse than anyone.
It's been 13 years since this happened and I still randomly hope that the MLB will somehow overturn this and include it as an official perfect game. I don't know anything about how that would happen or if it's remotely possible but man I wish that could somehow be a thing.
They can. As sure as they can eventually let Pete Rose in the hall of Fame.. something like this was completed..so they have an extra out to work with. Joyce on that HBO special (I believe it was, it lasted over an hour..) after all his crocodile tears, A LOT of tears.. STILL said he wouldn't change anything??? FN type of dude that has 'non consentual " written on his stupid ass handlebar moustache!!!.. amateur porn producer lookin @$#@er!!!!
I will say this this young man showed class dignity and true character of a human being. Top notch in my book. And he knows he threw a perfect game and he also knows and understands that the umpire made a mistake. And so many people could take a page from his book of forgiveness and learn how to be a human being. He forgave that umpire shook his hand and went about his business. Not like many people today who even though this had nothing to do with their life wanted to hurt that umpire said very nasty things about him and his family. Just goes to show you what people are made of
I agree 100% this broke my heart. Now, I'm a White Sox fan and I'm supposed to "hate" the Tigers and Indians. If we are being lighthearted and in jest, sure technically I "hate" them, and I technically "hate" the Cubs. I don't really hate *any* team. What I *HATE* is robbery, and this was a tragic robbery. I put myself in a mindset to see that happen to Mark's perfect game and it's a dark place. I would have pitched an embolism if that happened.
Honestly, I prefer for them to keep it this way. It's actually more historica being that we all know he got it and this cements him as the only guy in history to throw 28 outs
The entire teams class goes down in the history books. Coach didn't get ejected, player didn't make a show. Got to put all these guys somewhere in the hall of fame for showing such good sportsmanship.
I seriously would have rage retired from baseball if I was the pitcher here. Of all the times that people berate the umpire unfairly, this time it would have been 100% justified. A perfect game is the hardest thing to do in sports, and to rob a pitcher of that is an absolute shame.
People give Jim Joyce credit for admitting he was wrong. He only did that only after he saw the replay and knew his ass was going to be reamed, he gets no credit from me, it wasn't even close.
0:08 Runner knows he's out. So does Sandy. The pitcher took it well. The ump felt bad after the game when Leyland showed him the replay. I just cost that kid a perfect game Jimmy. But he ump'd behind the plate the next game and Galarraga handed him the lineup card and patted him on the back as Jim Joyce wiped away some tears.
Idk why Jim didn’t defer to the rest of the crew because it seemed everyone in the stadium knew that runner was out except for Jim. Seemed like an ego thing.
you are kidding, right? how cynical of joyce.... 'fuck, kid... i took a dump on your incredible masterpiece of pitching last night and since you are not verlander but galarraga, i took it away from you... oh... here is a pat in the back and let me act like i am crying'
I'll always count this as a perfect game. Probably the strongest argument anyone can make for why replay in sports is essential. I still feel for Galarraga, especially considering he had a middling career otherwise.
Who's here after that messed up penalty against the Detroit Lions last night that could cost us a hire seed in the playoffs?? Brings me right back to this day like it was yesterday
I don't think some of you realize, this was not a great pitcher he played very few big league game's and this was an immortal mistake. His ball and glove should be in Cooperstown. There's no secondary prize's
@@poignantgnat1233 well, he was in the rotation for a few years. Threw nearly 178 innings in 2008 with a 3.73 ERA and threw 144 innings in 2010 with a 4.49 ERA. also threw 143 innings in 2009. With ERA averaging around 4 in 2008 and 2010, we can rest assured that when he had his good stuff, his ERA was probably around 2.00 for those games. So, what the hell Mat Chavez was talking about was literally accurate. glad to help
you are sick! after this purposely missed call by racist jim joyce.... Galarraga's career started to go down..... he had just climbed up to this moment! hush marcus... you jim joyce lover creep.
Dude that's so f*cked up. They really shoulda scratched that hit n gave him the complete game after they replayed it and saw the error. Obviously Joyce genuinely thought he was out at first base and called it accordingly. But still, that's a heartbreaker right there. There have only been something like 20 perfect games in MLB history so its definitely an elite class n being part of it woulda been something special
You know it's bad when Jason Donald, the batter for Cleveland, is standing behind first base with his hands on his helmet. Jason Donald: Surely you can't be serious. Jim Joyce: I am serious, and don't call me Shirley. Jason Donald: ...I was out, dude. Perfect game.
Such a robbery. Not only was the runner out, it was Galarraga who got him out. If you are the ump and there is any ambiguity in a situation like this, give the man the perfect game.
I said it when this happened and I’ll say it until the day I die - this appeal should have been overturned by MLB in heartbeat and Galaraga should have been awarded his rightfully earned perfect game. Jim Joyce crying the next day while Armando brought him the lineup card is worth nothing. He singlehandedly robbed this man of putting his name on one of the shortest lists in baseball history. And I say this as a Met fan who would sacrifice our only single-pitcher no hitter by Santana for that same type of review because he gave up a ball down the third base line that was called foul but was clearly fair. I’m gutted for Armando every single time I watch this clip. I can’t imagine how he smiled in that moment. I would have lost my fucking mind. This play should have been the biggest indicator that baseball’s bullshit “pure” approach should have died when all other sports allowed replay challenges. MLB as a whole should still be ashamed, and the players association should be even more ashamed for allowing the sanctioning body to leave career-defining moments in the hands of men who are aged beyond the height of their senses.
at that time.... umps were blowing calls on purpose to get instant replay. nto baseball... the whole weekend they had incredibly blown calls... but to blow a perfect game!!! you needed a f--ing racist jim joyce to 'blow' such a masterpiece of pitching. to get instant replay.... is simply horrendous!
TheABelGuitar: funny that the guy with the most at stake handled it with more grace and understanding than you. Even funnier that you think a 54 year-old man, widely recognized as one of the best in the game, lacks the ability to ump a baseball game. But cry away, l'il girl.
@@afridgetoofar1818 na.... you do not know what an art form it is to pitch a perfect game! this is not making a hotdog! Galarraga pitched a gorgeous game and that racist pig, james joyce had to ruin it for him because his last name was not verlander or scherzer. End of story!
I remember seeing this on sport center the day after it happened just thinking wow I don’t think i would have been smiling or calm about that situation unfortunately Armando didn’t have much success in the majors afterwards
umps called badly all weekend long that weekend and then some... because they were workign to get instant replay in baseball..... understandable... but for joyce to do that in a perfect game... is simply disgusting....
I'm an Indians fan who was watching this via the Cleveland feed. That call was so atrocious that Indians fans and broadcasters felt bad for Galaraga. That last broadcast feed was.indisns radio play by play man Tom Hamilton and you can hear the disbelief in his voice
0:40 to 1:01 -- Every time I think about this play I have that dialog in my head. I also like how in going from elation to frustration Cabrera ... readjusts his jock strap.
Goes down in history as one of several not perfect game perfect games… Including Pedro going into extras with a perfect game for the Expos and my personal favorite… Ernie Shore in 1917 for the Red Sox. Babe Ruth started the game, walked the first batter on 4 pitches, assaulted the ump, and was escorted out by police. Shore came in, that guy on first was thrown out stealing second and Shore proceeded to get out the next 26 batters…
As much as this sucks to see, it fills my heart with warmth seeing everyone collectively shocked and some out right angry at the call. There's guys that slammed the railing and it's very cathartic seeing it.
it warms you heart that a jerk called a masterpiece of pitching badly on purpose? i want to throw up seeing that awful pig jim joyce seeing an out by 4 miles!!!! and calling it safe!
My favorite reaction is the runners. He’s like, “I ran it out, because that’s what you do. You compete. It’s sportsmanlike. But I didn’t really WANT to be safe. Well in any case I was ambivalent about it. Um by the way ump. I was out by a mile. Wtf?” Something like that imo…
@Mao LeBron I remember a game between the Yankees and Blue Jays, not a game anyone would remember, but i do remember one play, and this game was before the challenge/review rule when a play was called and stayed as called no matter what. A Jays batter hit a ground ball and rushed to first, the play was close and was called safe, but for some reason the four umps got together after the play and decided to change the call to out. That´s the only time i witnessed something like that before the rules changed. So i keep scratching my head, wondering why the umps could do that in a rather meaningless game but not with aperfect game on the line? I just don´t understand.
You should probably see the aftermath of this game, specifically how the umpire who blew the call, Joyce, handled the situation. It’s evident that the umpire was not power tripping but it was just an honest mistake and a bad call. He showed up in tears and apologized in public the very next day to the pitcher. Power trippers don’t do that.
You never see the angle from center where you don’t see he didn’t squeeze the ball in his glove. Galarraga even made a move to secure it after the play
Let me check my math here. The commissioner can erase Pete Rose from Baseball history but can't fix a blown last call, verifiably recorded in HD color video, in a perfect game. Do I have that right?
Not sure what the two have to do with each other. And besides, nobody has erased Rose from baseball history. He has been banned from the game for violation of a rule that has a specific, clearly defined penalty of lifetime ban. And in this instance, the rules do not allow for overturn of the game or replay. So basically, you are upset that they follow the established rules, instead of arbitrarily ignoring the rules in some situations.
In real time when I first saw it (here in the YT video), it looked like a tie to me, or at least a play they could have gone either way. But, of course it is much easier to see with a slow motion replay that he was safe. The slow motion is a luxury we have that Jim Joyce the umpire did not have. The batter was a very fast runner and it added to the illusion that he arrived at the same time the throw did. Look at the video -- directly at the 0:54 mark of the video. You will see how close it was. So, adding all this up, it is hard for me to blame Jim Joyce... even though he made the wrong call.
This may have been mentioned already but when the 1st baseman caught the ball he did that thing where he bobbled it with his glove before securing it. The 1st base ump couldn't see this but I wonder if he saw the 3rd base ump signal that the runner was safe, which influenced his call.
It's interesting that the announcers from both Detroit and Cleveland recognized it was a blown call. FS Detroit is Detroit television, WXYT is Detroit radio, STO is Cleveland television and WTAM is Cleveland radio. If anything, the Cleveland announcers were even more adamant that the runner was out.
The very rarely seen angle shows Jim Joyce shouting back at Tigers dugout and yelling at them. I mean, how dare they question your horrible call? He didn’t just take the argument... he was being his typical arrogant self. Search Jim Joyce and his rants.
His reaction the next day I think is what earned him a lot of respect. Him going into that interview and telling them he fucked up and saying he cost that kid a perfect game then being behind the plate and crying and hugging Galarraga
jim joyce had a career making bad calls vs latin players.... 2004 alcs boston vs nyy... he tried to damage Many Ramírez! the rest of the umps said... 'jim... curb your racism....'
And yet, widely recognized as one of the best in the game, including topping an anonymous players' poll of 100 players as the best umpire in the game. At the time, he thought he made the right call, and he reacted to people screaming obscenities at him. Pretty sure if a bunch of people came into your McDonald's at the end of your fry cook shift, and screamed at you, you would handle it with aplomb.
i still dont understand why baseball didnt send this to review. this is my gripe with baseball. in football, the replay wouldve confirmed it as an out.
At the time, replay was only used in the playoffs to determine fair/foul and homeruns. This play was one of the driving factors for bringing replay not only into the regular season, but for also determining out or safe.
It's safe and all but something I never noticed was when he caught it initially, the ball bobbled out of his glove. I wonder if that was was jim Joyce saw originally that made him think safe?
LOL I agree. I just made the same comment. I just happened to be watching this when it happened and always wondered why nobody ever mentioned that little juggle he made.
nah.... jim joyce saw a venezuelan pitcher do a masterpiece of pitching.... had Galarraga's last name been Scherzer or Verlander.... joyce would have called it 'out' like the rest of the world did.
Shocked that somebody would think an umpire, widely recognized as one of the best in the business (including topping an anonymous PLAYERS poll as the best umpire in the business) should be fired for one call.
The ump actually felt terrible after this knowing he fucked up. Dude was actually a good ump This one is on MLB where the ump had no way to change the call
At least Joyce apologized. Joe West, CB Buckner and Angel Hernandez would have all missed that call too, but they would have insisted they made the right call.
Galarraga had an insane performance and he acted with such class. Almost Jesus-like. Sometimes I wish this was John Lackey giving a hollering to Jim Joyce. I know Lackey would've blown up, no need for the manager to come out 😂
So great to ask "Why is he safe?" while looking at a slowed replay with playbacks and then blaming the umpires. Get down there and do the job yourself if you think you're that good
Still believe he was out on the play but nobody ever talked about how the ball jiggled around in his glove making the play VERY close and much, much closer than it appeared based on pitcher being on the bag and getting the ball well before the runner reached 1st base. By the time he actually had control of the baseball in the glove it was much closer than it initially appeared.
@@moehammondmedia meant to say out it was a typo and will be corrected. still believe he was out but it was much closer than everyone acted like it was b/c of lack of ball control in the glove.
You would think this is history less than 2 dozen of these have happened throughout baseball in over a hundred plus years you think with a play this close even if he was safe call him out not to mention he was out by two feet but still this close the call should have been out no matter what.
Real question.......is it an out as soon as the ball was in the tip of the glove with control???? Cuz he did slightly transfer the ball from the tip of his glove to the middle of his glove by the time the runner WAS safe........seriously, just a legitimate question
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Let's not forget the class Galarraga showed after all this.. Much respect.
Seriously. I think about the way he handled the situation often. Not too many people would react with the kind of class that Galarraga showed.
He was the only one on the Tigers who didn't get in Jim Joyce's face and cuss him out.
I have respect Jim Jocye (sp) that he at post interview said he got it wrong. Not ppl admit, me included, when we got it wrong.
I would have legit cried.
As in the classiest words of Galarraga in regards to Joyce's call "nobody's perfect" 😭
If you think about it, how many other people can you name with a perfect game? This is one you’ll never forget. Only person to get 28 outs in a game.
Let's see... David Cone, Roy Halladay, Dallas Braden, Felix Hernandez, Randy Johnson, David Wells, Sandy Koufax, Don Larsen (only know that one because it was in the World Series) and I think Cy Young threw one if I'm not mistaken. It's pathetic that MLB still hasn't fixed this horrible mistake. This might actually be worse than not vacating the 2017 World Series, since the runner is so obviously out and the play would have ended the game
David Wells being drunk/hungover after partying into the morning with Saturday night live is #1 for me.
There was a no hitter where the only batter reached on a dropped third strike then got thrown out stealing. 27.5 outs or thereabouts.
@@CIARUNSITE Or what about the one Dock Ellis threw while high on LSD? He thought he had the day off so he dropped a tab but then got called to start
@@_JellyDonut_ Yep...that was a no hitter, not a perfecto
Even the runner was like "fuck.... did I just do that to him?"
Grand slam distance. Always hustle no matter what if ur in grand slam distance
He knew the umpire missed that call
nope... the runner was... fuck... did jim joyce just do that to that latin pitcher?
@@vilhelmhammershoi3871 what a weird thing to say 😅
@@donnymoney4222 not at all.. jim joyce always called it bad for latin players....
What hurts the most is how happy Armando looked after he tagged the base. Can’t believe they took away his perfect game.
that smile… he’s fucking crushed inside
The tigers gave him a truck.. forgot if it was the F-250 or whatever...not the point..they did this the next game...made a point to embarrass the f*** out of Joyce...forced to give a sorry hug (I wish Galarraga would have strangled him and his amateur porn producer stash) ..pretended to cry..maybe he did. Wasn't he "invited to retire"? ... still on that ..I'm now not sure if it was ESPN or HBO special.. but same regret, same tears, ALOT of them...then says that he ...if he could.. WOULD NOT change anything? Just as mystifying as that 2 step missed call. Armando knows what happened was legendary and if they change it.. which should have no objections since he did finish the game perfect (28) ... either way there's only one clear villain and one excellent player (things didn't go to well if I remember in his career afterwards or soon afterwards..not sure why?) and obviously an incredible person!!!
Still a perfect game in my mind, he’s on the records in my book
The problem is your book is like mine... it don't mean jackshit.
Yes indeed, and without an asterisk too! 😉
Better than a perfect game. This is a 28 out perfect game. Extra perfect.
Yes but every baseball fan there is knows let’s be real this is a perfect game mlb should award it especially since he got the next out anyway it’s crazy looking at old clips when replay wasn’t a thing now it’s like how can you not have replay
Yup. It’s not the same but if it happened in today’s manager challenge era, it would have obviously been overturned. So, it’s an unofficial perfect game.
The crazy thing is you can see the umpire initially making a motion to call him out and made a split decision to change his mind. Crazy. As a ump, you gotta go with your first instinct.
The fact that there was no replay/challenge/overturn system in MLB yet is why baseball was such a joke. The fact that this wasn’t immediately corrected into an out and perfect game is a disgrace.
I remember a game between the Yankees and Blue Jays, not a game anyone would remember, but i do remember one play, and this game was before the challenge/review rule when a play was called and stayed as called no matter what. A Jays batter hit a ground ball and rushed to first, the play was close and was called safe, but for some reason the four umps got together after the play and decided to change the call to out. That´s the only time i witnessed something like that before the rules changed. So i keep scratching my head, wondering why the umps could do that in a rather meaningless game but not with aperfect game on the line? I just don´t understand.
@@oswaldoibarra8889 hey man, plays like this weren’t ‘reviewable’ but if an ump had any doubt they could refer to the other umps and see if anyone else saw it better. It’s typical still for leagues without review, but no umpire can override another’s call unless that ump specifically defers. Just like when somebody checks a swing and home plate asks first base ump if he went, it’s a defer call. Should’ve done it here, but Jim Joyce wasn’t about to do that, he was screaming at the tigers coach instead
@@stephencaldwell5045 I find it so infuriating that the entire stadium was booing and even the runner looked disappointed, but Jim’s ego would let him admit that maybe he got it wrong.
@@jeffcarroll1990shock He deserves it, stop simping for him
Couldn’t agree more. That’s what I don’t understand about the MLB. This was clearly the wrong call. That would’ve been the last out. He threw a perfect game. Why can’t they give him credit?? In addition to (at the time) adopting instant replay.
I go to about 3 tigers games per year, and I just happened to be at this one. They kept flashing the replay on the big screen for everyone to see, and I'm not kidding you when I say that I legitimately, honestly thought Jim Joyce's life was in danger that night. I kept thinking that they needed to send a couple dozen security and police out there to immediately get him off the field. The feeling in the air was really intense-- even a bit scary. If this same crowd were at a soccer game in Central America, I have absolutely no doubt that a massive riot would have taken place.
Usually everyone leaves around the bottom of the 8th, but thousands and thousands of people hung around in the stands for over an hour after this game ended. Even after it became completely clear to everyone that the game was 100% over, we just kept standing there. I think we were all waiting for some kind of loudspeaker announcement that Jim Joyce was "taking it back".
Everyone was just starring at their phones, checking news sites, and telling the people around them that MLB would certainly be changing the call any minute and we could all cheer about it (even though we were all baseball fans so we knew that definitely wasn't happening). It was a really, really weird night.
Better yet...his (Joyce's) career over, just as quick as Galarraga's. He never seemed to recover from it.
The fans would have been justified ķilling Joyce
Wow thanks for that story. I couldn't imagine that feeling. You and him and all your fans were totally robbed that night
That very day this "incident" occurred, I immediately noticed that Galarraga was bobbling the ball as he was tagging the bag. Jim Joyce actually got this call correct but for a different reason.
I replayed this at quarter speed and can clearly see how he did not have full control of the ball while it was in his glove, further evidenced by the ball sliding further into his glove after the batter crossed first base.
But no one ever talked about that; I kept bringing it up but no ran else ran with this.
Again, the umpire got the call correct even though not in a direct manner.
@@danfreiberger5137 That doesn't matter lol. He had the ball in his glove, it didn't fall out. It was an out by all rules. The ump got it wrong :(
What’s makes me sad is, Armando just smile. I don’t know but, his smile just sad for me. But, that’s class
It was a perfect game. Don’t need history or the rule books to verify it. Fuck that. Everyone knows 💯💯🙏🏼
If anything it needs to be an asterisk by his name
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A "perfect game" doesn't exist without a rule book to define it. This wasn't a perfect game, and it never will be. And that's really sad.
@@davecarsley8773 it is in the hall of fame as the 28 out perfect game.
@@davecarsley8773 nah still a perfecto
rewatching this just re-pissed me off , god it’s so obvious, still a perfect game to me
The pitcher handled this better than I did. I was calling for the umpire to be suspended for that garbage call. And by the way, I am an Indians/Guardians fan.
good man! yet.. that spineless gutless selig.... did nothing and let joyce call other games! a disgrace!
I refuse to accept this as anything other than the only 28 out perfect game in MLB history. That was probably the greatest show of human grace and forgiveness ever caught on film! Jim Joyce knew he blew the call and he took it worse than anyone.
It's been 13 years since this happened and I still randomly hope that the MLB will somehow overturn this and include it as an official perfect game. I don't know anything about how that would happen or if it's remotely possible but man I wish that could somehow be a thing.
It’s time to fix this for sure
It’s definitely possible. If MLB wasn’t so stubborn it would have been overturned long ago.
I mean it was the last out of the game so absolutely it's possible... They need to correct this travesty
Needs to be done!!!!!!!
They can. As sure as they can eventually let Pete Rose in the hall of Fame.. something like this was completed..so they have an extra out to work with. Joyce on that HBO special (I believe it was, it lasted over an hour..) after all his crocodile tears, A LOT of tears.. STILL said he wouldn't change anything??? FN type of dude that has 'non consentual " written on his stupid ass handlebar moustache!!!.. amateur porn producer lookin @$#@er!!!!
Even Jason Donald knew he was out, man.
Poor Galarraga was never the same after this. Just a damn shame.
I will say this this young man showed class dignity and true character of a human being. Top notch in my book. And he knows he threw a perfect game and he also knows and understands that the umpire made a mistake. And so many people could take a page from his book of forgiveness and learn how to be a human being. He forgave that umpire shook his hand and went about his business. Not like many people today who even though this had nothing to do with their life wanted to hurt that umpire said very nasty things about him and his family. Just goes to show you what people are made of
I remember watching this with my dad. He's a tigers fan and I'm a tribe fan. We were in complete shock looking at each other.
One of the worst calls in sports history.
I agree 100% this broke my heart. Now, I'm a White Sox fan and I'm supposed to "hate" the Tigers and Indians. If we are being lighthearted and in jest, sure technically I "hate" them, and I technically "hate" the Cubs. I don't really hate *any* team. What I *HATE* is robbery, and this was a tragic robbery. I put myself in a mindset to see that happen to Mark's perfect game and it's a dark place. I would have pitched an embolism if that happened.
Galarraga's face is like "You're trollin', right?"
Honestly, I prefer for them to keep it this way. It's actually more historica being that we all know he got it and this cements him as the only guy in history to throw 28 outs
In today’s game that’s a perfect game with replay. He did it in my book.
The entire teams class goes down in the history books. Coach didn't get ejected, player didn't make a show. Got to put all these guys somewhere in the hall of fame for showing such good sportsmanship.
I seriously would have rage retired from baseball if I was the pitcher here. Of all the times that people berate the umpire unfairly, this time it would have been 100% justified. A perfect game is the hardest thing to do in sports, and to rob a pitcher of that is an absolute shame.
Dude at 1:32 all the way to the right in the opponents dugout knew he blew the call. His reaction is priceless.
Armando handled this about as good as any human being ever could.
Only thing good to take from this. Also fuck Joyce’s apology and the meeting at home plate the next day. Fuck Joyce.
The smile from Gallaraga gets me every time. Some moments are so unbelievable you can’t even express usual anger lol
People give Jim Joyce credit for admitting he was wrong. He only did that only after he saw the replay and knew his ass was going to be reamed, he gets no credit from me, it wasn't even close.
Exactly!! I can’t stand the narrative of how much of a stand up guy he is for saying he blew it.
Is he gonna deny the tape?! lol
2:25 Sandy Alomar Jr.: "You were out, bro."
Jason Donald: "I know!"
2:11 Ive always liked the reaction of the Indians trainer on the bench, like "WOW, he missed it!"
look at the shock and concern showed by the batter Donaldson AND his dugout.
Unbelievable.
“He must have missed the base.”
“Are you kidding me?” Lol
Hes saying are you kidding me because it was a terrible call, not because of what the other announcer said.
@@zachPlushgaming both!
@@zachPlushgaming knowing their relationship, he may have been saying "Are you kidding me?" to the other announcer.
0:08 Runner knows he's out. So does Sandy. The pitcher took it well. The ump felt bad after the game when Leyland showed him the replay. I just cost that kid a perfect game Jimmy. But he ump'd behind the plate the next game and Galarraga handed him the lineup card and patted him on the back as Jim Joyce wiped away some tears.
Idk why Jim didn’t defer to the rest of the crew because it seemed everyone in the stadium knew that runner was out except for Jim. Seemed like an ego thing.
you are kidding, right? how cynical of joyce.... 'fuck, kid... i took a dump on your incredible masterpiece of pitching last night and since you are not verlander but galarraga, i took it away from you... oh... here is a pat in the back and let me act like i am crying'
I'll always count this as a perfect game. Probably the strongest argument anyone can make for why replay in sports is essential. I still feel for Galarraga, especially considering he had a middling career otherwise.
I cried that day, and I’m a Mets fan. A 28 out perfect game,it’s the only one.
😂 cried?
If it was your team bro, you would have been crying like a baby.
Who's here after that messed up penalty against the Detroit Lions last night that could cost us a hire seed in the playoffs?? Brings me right back to this day like it was yesterday
In a few years, we will see Netflix Doc where Jim Joyce was gambling on this game 😂
I don't think some of you realize, this was not a great pitcher he played very few big league game's and this was an immortal mistake.
His ball and glove should be in Cooperstown.
There's no secondary prize's
No, he was in the rotation for a few years and when he had his good stuff he was damn good
@@matchavez8530 what the hell r u talking about he started the year in triple a and only came up because max scherzer was struggling lmfao
Galaragga started the home opener that year. Anyway I would never say he was HOF worthy but he could be pretty sick when he was on
@@poignantgnat1233 well, he was in the rotation for a few years. Threw nearly 178 innings in 2008 with a 3.73 ERA and threw 144 innings in 2010 with a 4.49 ERA. also threw 143 innings in 2009. With ERA averaging around 4 in 2008 and 2010, we can rest assured that when he had his good stuff, his ERA was probably around 2.00 for those games. So, what the hell Mat Chavez was talking about was literally accurate. glad to help
you are sick! after this purposely missed call by racist jim joyce.... Galarraga's career started to go down..... he had just climbed up to this moment! hush marcus... you jim joyce lover creep.
Dude that's so f*cked up. They really shoulda scratched that hit n gave him the complete game after they replayed it and saw the error. Obviously Joyce genuinely thought he was out at first base and called it accordingly. But still, that's a heartbreaker right there. There have only been something like 20 perfect games in MLB history so its definitely an elite class n being part of it woulda been something special
Commissioner should of stepped in. Wasn’t even close. But love the reaction by galaraga, the smile says it all.
You know it's bad when Jason Donald, the batter for Cleveland, is standing behind first base with his hands on his helmet.
Jason Donald: Surely you can't be serious.
Jim Joyce: I am serious, and don't call me Shirley.
Jason Donald: ...I was out, dude. Perfect game.
Insane that this was blown like that that play isnt even bang bang .
This is what they do to teams like Detroit and Cleveland. They completely fuck up the call, and it ends up screwing us to hell.
Such a robbery. Not only was the runner out, it was Galarraga who got him out. If you are the ump and there is any ambiguity in a situation like this, give the man the perfect game.
I said it when this happened and I’ll say it until the day I die - this appeal should have been overturned by MLB in heartbeat and Galaraga should have been awarded his rightfully earned perfect game. Jim Joyce crying the next day while Armando brought him the lineup card is worth nothing. He singlehandedly robbed this man of putting his name on one of the shortest lists in baseball history.
And I say this as a Met fan who would sacrifice our only single-pitcher no hitter by Santana for that same type of review because he gave up a ball down the third base line that was called foul but was clearly fair.
I’m gutted for Armando every single time I watch this clip. I can’t imagine how he smiled in that moment. I would have lost my fucking mind. This play should have been the biggest indicator that baseball’s bullshit “pure” approach should have died when all other sports allowed replay challenges. MLB as a whole should still be ashamed, and the players association should be even more ashamed for allowing the sanctioning body to leave career-defining moments in the hands of men who are aged beyond the height of their senses.
at that time.... umps were blowing calls on purpose to get instant replay. nto baseball... the whole weekend they had incredibly blown calls... but to blow a perfect game!!! you needed a f--ing racist jim joyce to 'blow' such a masterpiece of pitching. to get instant replay.... is simply horrendous!
TheABelGuitar: funny that the guy with the most at stake handled it with more grace and understanding than you. Even funnier that you think a 54 year-old man, widely recognized as one of the best in the game, lacks the ability to ump a baseball game. But cry away, l'il girl.
@@vilhelmhammershoi3871 you had to play the race card, didn’t you. Predictable
It’s a game. Calm down.
@@afridgetoofar1818 na.... you do not know what an art form it is to pitch a perfect game! this is not making a hotdog! Galarraga pitched a gorgeous game and that racist pig, james joyce had to ruin it for him because his last name was not verlander or scherzer. End of story!
Even the runner Donald knew he was out!
I can't help but respect the class and respect Galarraga and Joyce showed after this.
The smile on the pitcher face while running for that out (knowing he had it) made this even worse 😔
I remember seeing this on sport center the day after it happened just thinking wow I don’t think i would have been smiling or calm about that situation unfortunately Armando didn’t have much success in the majors afterwards
Even the Cleveland first base coach and their bench knew their teammate was out look at their reaction....
even the cleveland commentators were in shock lmao
It hurts every bit as much today as it did then.
This game is really the reason we have replays in baseball now. I wish they would have had it then
umps called badly all weekend long that weekend and then some... because they were workign to get instant replay in baseball..... understandable... but for joyce to do that in a perfect game... is simply disgusting....
Armando Galarraga a great Venezuelan sportsman.❤🇻🇪
I'm an Indians fan who was watching this via the Cleveland feed. That call was so atrocious that Indians fans and broadcasters felt bad for Galaraga. That last broadcast feed was.indisns radio play by play man Tom Hamilton and you can hear the disbelief in his voice
0:40 to 1:01 -- Every time I think about this play I have that dialog in my head. I also like how in going from elation to frustration Cabrera ... readjusts his jock strap.
Goes down in history as one of several not perfect game perfect games…
Including Pedro going into extras with a perfect game for the Expos and my personal favorite… Ernie Shore in 1917 for the Red Sox.
Babe Ruth started the game, walked the first batter on 4 pitches, assaulted the ump, and was escorted out by police. Shore came in, that guy on first was thrown out stealing second and Shore proceeded to get out the next 26 batters…
He was clearly out but…man Miggy made it close to begin with. That’s a routine ground ball to second base.
The reason instant replay exists. Now take care of balls and strikes.
As much as this sucks to see, it fills my heart with warmth seeing everyone collectively shocked and some out right angry at the call. There's guys that slammed the railing and it's very cathartic seeing it.
it warms you heart that a jerk called a masterpiece of pitching badly on purpose? i want to throw up seeing that awful pig jim joyce seeing an out by 4 miles!!!! and calling it safe!
My favorite reaction is the runners. He’s like, “I ran it out, because that’s what you do. You compete. It’s sportsmanlike. But I didn’t really WANT to be safe. Well in any case I was ambivalent about it. Um by the way ump. I was out by a mile. Wtf?”
Something like that imo…
Check the runner's expression, even he knew it was wrong
Why didn't the second base umpire overrule him? He was looking right at it.
@Mao LeBron why not?
@Mao LeBron I remember a game between the Yankees and Blue Jays, not a game anyone would remember, but i do remember one play, and this game was before the challenge/review rule when a play was called and stayed as called no matter what. A Jays batter hit a ground ball and rushed to first, the play was close and was called safe, but for some reason the four umps got together after the play and decided to change the call to out. That´s the only time i witnessed something like that before the rules changed. So i keep scratching my head, wondering why the umps could do that in a rather meaningless game but not with aperfect game on the line? I just don´t understand.
Very tough blow during my childhood
Damn you’re young
@@omegamanGXE yeah I’m 20
@@JGHMusic moar liek 69 🤪
@@omegamanGXE and you said I was young
tough? no.... it wasn't tough... joyce called it badly on purpose.
*Armando Galarragas perfect game gets ruined* fixed the title for you
Dang it’s been 11 years
That's what happens when you put a man in a position of power that has a need to make it all about himself.
You should probably see the aftermath of this game, specifically how the umpire who blew the call, Joyce, handled the situation. It’s evident that the umpire was not power tripping but it was just an honest mistake and a bad call.
He showed up in tears and apologized in public the very next day to the pitcher. Power trippers don’t do that.
@@blackmamba1261 Absolutely right. Joyce had to live with this, too.
You never see the angle from center where you don’t see he didn’t squeeze the ball in his glove.
Galarraga even made a move to secure it after the play
The next night, General Motors gave Armando a brand new Chevrolet Corvette convertible. Class act GM.
Let me check my math here. The commissioner can erase Pete Rose from Baseball history but can't fix a blown last call, verifiably recorded in HD color video, in a perfect game. Do I have that right?
I agree...BUT...does "opening up a can of worms" make sense here???
you got it!
@@gregd6706 yes!
Not sure what the two have to do with each other. And besides, nobody has erased Rose from baseball history. He has been banned from the game for violation of a rule that has a specific, clearly defined penalty of lifetime ban. And in this instance, the rules do not allow for overturn of the game or replay. So basically, you are upset that they follow the established rules, instead of arbitrarily ignoring the rules in some situations.
The runner did the right thing by not giving him anything but he knew he was out, he was low key upset with the ump on blowing the call.
In real time when I first saw it (here in the YT video), it looked like a tie to me, or at least a play they could have gone either way. But, of course it is much easier to see with a slow motion replay that he was safe. The slow motion is a luxury we have that Jim Joyce the umpire did not have. The batter was a very fast runner and it added to the illusion that he arrived at the same time the throw did. Look at the video -- directly at the 0:54 mark of the video. You will see how close it was. So, adding all this up, it is hard for me to blame Jim Joyce... even though he made the wrong call.
Joyce isn’t perfect but the game was.
This may have been mentioned already but when the 1st baseman caught the ball he did that thing where he bobbled it with his glove before securing it. The 1st base ump couldn't see this but I wonder if he saw the 3rd base ump signal that the runner was safe, which influenced his call.
MLB just changed the record books by counting Negro League stats. They need to officially recognize this as the 21st perfect game in MLB history.
It's interesting that the announcers from both Detroit and Cleveland recognized it was a blown call. FS Detroit is Detroit television, WXYT is Detroit radio, STO is Cleveland television and WTAM is Cleveland radio. If anything, the Cleveland announcers were even more adamant that the runner was out.
Unfortunate but everybody knows the truth
This is true. While it is not in the record book, it's widely known and acknowledged by fans to be a perfect game...in fact a 28 out perfect game :)
Even the first base coach thought he was out 😂😂
The very rarely seen angle shows Jim Joyce shouting back at Tigers dugout and yelling at them. I mean, how dare they question your horrible call? He didn’t just take the argument... he was being his typical arrogant self. Search Jim Joyce and his rants.
I wish Leyland would have taken his team off the field in protest. Still can't believe MLB hasn't declared this a perfect game
"BULLSHIT"
-Jim Joyce
His reaction the next day I think is what earned him a lot of respect. Him going into that interview and telling them he fucked up and saying he cost that kid a perfect game then being behind the plate and crying and hugging Galarraga
jim joyce had a career making bad calls vs latin players.... 2004 alcs boston vs nyy... he tried to damage Many Ramírez! the rest of the umps said... 'jim... curb your racism....'
And yet, widely recognized as one of the best in the game, including topping an anonymous players' poll of 100 players as the best umpire in the game. At the time, he thought he made the right call, and he reacted to people screaming obscenities at him. Pretty sure if a bunch of people came into your McDonald's at the end of your fry cook shift, and screamed at you, you would handle it with aplomb.
i still dont understand why baseball didnt send this to review. this is my gripe with baseball. in football, the replay wouldve confirmed it as an out.
At the time, replay was only used in the playoffs to determine fair/foul and homeruns. This play was one of the driving factors for bringing replay not only into the regular season, but for also determining out or safe.
Because, by the rules, it was not reviewable. Pretty simple.
@@bauerj3398 You sound like a little girl.
Why did Miggy have to go all the way out there 😭 should’ve let Santiago take it and stayed at the bag.
he can feel good knowing he got a perfect game, official or not official. He did what not many pitchers have done
It will be remembered as the Jim Joyce's tragedy
Out of all the missed calls it had to be on the last out of a potential perfect game smh
Even the runner couldn't believe it and felt bad. He knew he was out
It's safe and all but something I never noticed was when he caught it initially, the ball bobbled out of his glove. I wonder if that was was jim Joyce saw originally that made him think safe?
LOL I agree. I just made the same comment. I just happened to be watching this when it happened and always wondered why nobody ever mentioned that little juggle he made.
nah.... jim joyce saw a venezuelan pitcher do a masterpiece of pitching.... had Galarraga's last name been Scherzer or Verlander.... joyce would have called it 'out' like the rest of the world did.
Jim Joyce literally admitted to blowing the call which effectively ends the bobble debate.
@@Rye-jl2fk Exactly.
So the fans know, the announcers know, the 2 guys involved in the play know, the guy who hit it knows, but the Umpire doesn’t. Shocked he wasn’t fired
Shocked that somebody would think an umpire, widely recognized as one of the best in the business (including topping an anonymous PLAYERS poll as the best umpire in the business) should be fired for one call.
The ump actually felt terrible after this knowing he fucked up. Dude was actually a good ump
This one is on MLB where the ump had no way to change the call
Can you imagine if Cabrera let the ball go to the 2nd baseman...
Donald is out by 10'---as long as Cabrera stayed at first
At least Joyce apologized. Joe West, CB Buckner and Angel Hernandez would have all missed that call too, but they would have insisted they made the right call.
2:13 his face - priceless.
Joyce’s call I think hindered galaraga’s mlb career cause of this. This is traumatizing to a pitchers psyche
The ump said “I just wasn’t looking” WDYM YOU WERENT LOOKING
It turns out Donald knew that Joyce blew the call and that he was out before he saw the replay.
Still the biggest tragedy in the mlb to date.
Don't care. This is a perfect game, in my eyes. They ROBBED him.
The unofficial perfect game by Armando Galarraga, poor guy
Galarraga had an insane performance and he acted with such class. Almost Jesus-like. Sometimes I wish this was John Lackey giving a hollering to Jim Joyce. I know Lackey would've blown up, no need for the manager to come out 😂
Damn why no instant replay back then, as a baseball fan I was sik for galaraga
Hey, you fixed it to RUINED. I see you saw my comment. Kudos
So great to ask "Why is he safe?" while looking at a slowed replay with playbacks and then blaming the umpires. Get down there and do the job yourself if you think you're that good
Still believe he was out on the play but nobody ever talked about how the ball jiggled around in his glove making the play VERY close and much, much closer than it appeared based on pitcher being on the bag and getting the ball well before the runner reached 1st base. By the time he actually had control of the baseball in the glove it was much closer than it initially appeared.
You are both on an island 🏝️ and you are blind 😎 everyone in the world 🌍 but you saw that he was clearly out! Just stop 🛑 it.
@@moehammondmedia meant to say out it was a typo and will be corrected. still believe he was out but it was much closer than everyone acted like it was b/c of lack of ball control in the glove.
You would think this is history less than 2 dozen of these have happened throughout baseball in over a hundred plus years you think with a play this close even if he was safe call him out not to mention he was out by two feet but still this close the call should have been out no matter what.
Real question.......is it an out as soon as the ball was in the tip of the glove with control???? Cuz he did slightly transfer the ball from the tip of his glove to the middle of his glove by the time the runner WAS safe........seriously, just a legitimate question
When I umpired, I never stood 20 behind the first base bag to make the call at first base. You simply can't see certain angles.