Most FM creators creating META tactics will advocate avoid using the Poacher. As usual, your approach and inside sharing is always refreshing, educational and insightful. Thank you for your quality content.
Agreed. Many creators explain tactics, but it's clear that meta tactics manipulating game mechanics are often what get results, but the blah blah blah...
This role is one of my favourites, that fashioned old school striker with clinical finishing, that guy that only touch 3 balls hole game and score twice, it always remembered me to Hernan Crespo or Filippo Inzaghi. If you let me add one note: I always look for a finishing trait for a poacher, places shot, shoot with power, likes to lob the keeper, tries first times shot (always depending on the attributes that he has).
Turned around my season now when I finally know how poacher works lol, used all your suggestions on what roles work good with it and whole team started to function
I find that a poacher won't get a high rating unless they score, but it was great to see how you highlighted the important work they do that they don't get credit for i.e., space creation.
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker I did have a skin that when you hovered over the match rating at the bottom of the screen it showed what was contributing to the match rating i.e., 5/6 passes completed, 2 key passes etc
I love using a Poacher, Enganche and an Anchor tactic on my teams when I have the right players. That's the south american way! Keep it up with this kind of videos 👍🏽
@@liam8664 they are the spine of your team. You need to support them with other complementary roles, the higher the level the team is, the more mobility and responsibilities you can add to them changing their roles. That's why I say it's the south american way 👍🏽
I think it can be detrimental if you want more of that Total Football style, since they have no concerns with build up, defending, etc... but they thrive if you go more traditional and just need a striker who's a striker
Im gonna admit i definitely undervalued poachers and actively avoided them cause i thought they were worse advance forwards. Now i see a key difference i might be able to exploit better than I thought
"Poacher is worse Advance Forward" was true, up until SI changed AF to be slightly more involved in the build up. Before that changes AF had same vertical movement as Poacher all the while had more horizontal movement than Poacher, that's how "Poacher is worse AF" came about
Another great video! Besides player roles i really hope to see you making videos about explaining other tactical aspects of the game(like pressing, tempo, corners etc.)😅 Anyway keep up the good work!
Thanks! I've started to get into more of the other tactical stuff in some recent videos, and hope to make some dedicated for that as well. Thanks for the suggestion!
Thank you for your content. Your videos really help me to understand FM and football even better, I'm a big fan of your editing style and the quality of your videos, I appreciate you a lot!
Yesss, the missing link I needed. Between yourself and BustTheNet, I’m good. Thanks Stinger. The algorithm would never have made me aware of this guy. Now excuse me while I binge it all, comment, and leave likes to try and smarten the algorithm up a bit.
The football world will never truly appreciate 'space' until it directly leads to some game results, and his teammates must be engaged and successful. For instance, Messi's iconic F9 performance against Real Madrid (6-2) is hailed as a masterpiece. However, if his teammates like Henry, Eto'o, Xavi, Iniesta, or Alves hadn't capitalized on the space he created with their movement, shot, or goal, his space would be dismissed as useless. Creating space is a team effort, not solely a player's metric. Consequently, accurately measuring this aspect is challenging, even with technology. Different observers may have varying opinions on whether created space was good or useless.
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker to be fair, there's probably some truth to it. In so much as a lot are misunderstood/misutilised, which is what makes this series such a banger!
So many advice, good tips and other usefull details the only thing i need to do is to make a simple tactics with all the information....No problem 😅😅😂😂. Once again great job 🙌🏼
Love this video. Yes, exactly, poacher is not (mainly) goalscorer, he is space creator. Additionally if you have strong, tall, good header as a poacher. Oh my.. He will always has double cover in the box so CMa or IFa will have planty of time and space to score. If left with only one man marking him, he will in nearly every match score a header. His Forward runs also create time and space for APs. Number of key passes increase. I am definitely in love in poacher. One thing to add: with poacher there have to be someone who can hold the ball in midflied. If not, you will be forced to play only on wings. Ball needs to be play in the middle to use poacher abilities to create space in 100%. Thanks for great video! ❤
The way the Poacher draws attention from a center back is unparalled; even in some of those clips, he essentially took out back-3 formations by himself. And great addition with the AP. He's the role that most benefits from that space he creates
man you are so underrated Im a new subscriber! learn so much understanding the roles from these videos. an intresting video I would hope you make one time is about how to match player roles or how to get "green links" between players.
this video coming after I just signed a 6'3 18 year old Brazilian poacher with 16 finishing (regen) is such a blessing, given I have never used the role on FM
You should mention poachers in lower tempo posession systems. Very different profile to the pure speedster. I’ve had great success with the crazy mental attributes and a nice first touch in teams that want to get ball slowly into the box.
that's a great suggestion, thanks. I'll have to try some more of the Poacher in some lower tempo stuff. I had some luck when I used a variation in my possession tactic
it's also useful in higher leagues too. the one thing that poacher do really well is central defensive pressure. he will pin the opp cb back. advanced forward tend to drift wide to the channels becoming almost like a winger. resulting in him becoming less of a threat in the middle
Great video as always. A little suggestion of mine is that maybe you should consider recommending players that best suit the profiles you explain in your player profile discourse videos.
Great suggestion, thanks! I agree, I think that would help the videos. I'll see about adding in some more player attribute/analysis stuff in future role videos
you make the best FM videos! would love to see videos on how to create space against tactics with 3 defenders and 2 DM's i've been seeing a lot in the recent FM games. or against tactics that sit deep
thanks!! And you're right, I've been seeing those formations a bunch too. I've got some tactic stufff coming soon that should help (or at least hopefully help haha)
Awesome videos dude! Your analysis on various roles in fm have given me a better understanding of how the work and the type of players I need to olay those roles to their full potential. I hope you do a video on the target forward someday, I really want to know the difference between them and other playmaking forwards like the deep-lying forward (other than they are physically stronger).
Thank you so much, glad you enjoyed the videos!! The Target Forward video is in the works, but maybe not right away! In the mean time, the biggest difference between the TF and the DLF is the creativity. They will both drop deep to receive passes, but a TF will just play simple passes to teammates. Whereas a DLF is expected to create chances as well. The trade off is that, like you alluded to, the TF is much more dominant in the box since they're usually more physical (so winning headers, holding off defenders, etc...)
I used a poacher in conjunction with an advanced forward and the poacher created a lot of space for the AF to score. My issue is the poacher is not scoring very often (especially in two striker systems) so they would not get high ratings to develop (both strikers are wonderkids)
Poacher and AF are excellent together; I've used them in a couple of these videos. I will say the lack of match rating for their development would not be ideal, very true
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker I had an Austrian wonderkid named Peter Verhounig. He had the most perfect attributes for the poacher role and won me back to back UCLs.
@@LordRobrecht I just picture you keeping him in a garage like a Ferrari or something and then when you make it to the UCL final, open up the garage, and say "time to go" 😂😂
Thank you )) Waiting for your vision of Targetman. And I'm trying to implement an overthehead into the space ping-passing counter tactic with a pacey forward. It worked great let's say in FM2019... but i can't do anything this time.
Really appreciate that thank you!! And don't have any plans to stream at the moment; I've thought about doing it though! Nothing imminent I will say though. Thanks again for supporting the channel
I'm not a big fan of poachers but I've used them on occasion on teams where there weren't any better options. They can be devastating if well supported especially on lower leagues where having a 15-15 acc-pace poacher can mean instant promotion...
@@VurtAddicted I've used Poachers with low pace for their league, so you can totally have success with them. In the possession tactic video I did, I used a Poacher in that Luton team, and he only had a Pace attribute of like 13 (so low for the premier league). Can still be effective!
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker my personal problem with the poacher, and the reason why I seldom use them, is that I feel like a poacher won't put enough pressure on the opposing backline when out of possession. I might be entirely wrong about that since I've never done any research to either prove it or disprove it, it's just a feeling I have.
I need to make a video on a player role Hall of Fame, where you guys submit what player did their best in each role. A place we can honor all our favorites haha
I use poacher but in a 433 system, In away games I like to use a quick pass possesion system while at home a low tempo game Now I use a mezella instead of a seg volunte What do you think creates the difference between the Segundo volante and mezella Although my mezz guy is scoring good i am interested to see what volante will do ?
the SV will be more defensive focused than a Mezzala and will be a secondary scoring threat since they have to make a run from deeper. I've got couple of videos on the Segundo Volante if you would like some in depth videos on it
I don't think I've used the two with a lot of regularity, but my guess is they would be great together! Treq will have a lot of space to roam in the AM area (or wherever you place him). You'd probably need some hard working midfielders to cover behind them since they won't do a ton defensively
thank you for the patience!! The Ram probably won't be in the near future, but I've started some early work on a video if it makes you feel better! Thanks again
I don't think a video dedicated to the Enganche is on the way anytime in the immediate future. But if you check out my possession tactic video, that one uses an enganche if you want to see get some early ideas on how to use it
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker sick mate. Thanks for the reply, and for all the videos. They really are top quality and even though I’ve got nigh on 2000 hours on FM23 (it being my first game in the series) they’ve really helped my understanding of the in-game tactics and, by proxy, football as a whole. Moreover, I think your continued engagement with your commenters as your channel has grown is really admirable.
@@andrewmattern8185 Thanks!! And welcome to the FM family. No better way to spend your time haha. And appreciate the comments about engagement! Very grateful that the channel has grown the way it has and that people have been enjoying the videos
Ooo now that's a tough one haha. In the short term, maybe go to shorter passing? That could help with your teammates playing passes that keep him onside. In the long term, I would train him on the "likes to beat offside trap" player trait
Absolutely! What were you thinking about for your central midfield? I think a Central Midfielder (Attack) and a Box to Box midfielder would work great.
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Oh, thanks 4 the reply. I asked cuz I'm using a DLF with an attack duty, and in some matches, my team is not performing well. When I saw your video, I thought I could use a poacher when I need to attack.
@@S3oowd No problem! I love a 4141 so I've experienced the same sorts of issues, don't fret haha. I noticed when I would use a DLF, he would drop to receive the ball, but nobody would be pressuring the defensive backline (since in a 4141 the wingers are sitting further back). This allow the defense to compress your team, since no one is making those aggressive forward runs. Sometimes a Poacher can help, if only to keep that defensive backline honest
@@S3oowddepends on what kind of system you play in my opinion. Poacher doesn't care about being involved in the build up, unlike AF and PF, so using him in a system that's leaning towards possession style isn't a good idea.
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker I suppose that's could be it, could also be influenced by the youth academy player I got when managing at Waterford with 15 finishing and 13 off the ball (pretty good for the Irish league) who banged them in as a poacher 😂 😂
My first season with my fm23 Brighton save was carried by a young Evan Ferguson as a poacher! I wouldn’t use this role now except in a pair but it holds a special place in my heart 🫡
Most FM creators creating META tactics will advocate avoid using the Poacher. As usual, your approach and inside sharing is always refreshing, educational and insightful. Thank you for your quality content.
Agreed. Many creators explain tactics, but it's clear that meta tactics manipulating game mechanics are often what get results, but the blah blah blah...
thank you for the comment and glad you've been enjoying the video(s)!!
I’ve avoided using the poacher like a plague since I started playing FM, you might have just convinced me to try it
Whether you like or don't like the role, you at least know what he's going to do; Stand at the top and make forward runs 😂😂
Still patiently waiting for the AF role. Good video as always
This role is one of my favourites, that fashioned old school striker with clinical finishing, that guy that only touch 3 balls hole game and score twice, it always remembered me to Hernan Crespo or Filippo Inzaghi.
If you let me add one note: I always look for a finishing trait for a poacher, places shot, shoot with power, likes to lob the keeper, tries first times shot (always depending on the attributes that he has).
Also really good player traits! Thanks for adding.
I just love the Poacher because there's no mistake about what he does.
tries first time shot with good attribute can lead your striker act like prime hugo sanchez
Turned around my season now when I finally know how poacher works lol, used all your suggestions on what roles work good with it and whole team started to function
I love it!! Thanks for sharing your success story; always enjoy reading how the roles help out tactics
I find that a poacher won't get a high rating unless they score, but it was great to see how you highlighted the important work they do that they don't get credit for i.e., space creation.
I think it has something to do with the match rating and how it's calculated for strikers. Like completed passes, etc...
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker I did have a skin that when you hovered over the match rating at the bottom of the screen it showed what was contributing to the match rating i.e., 5/6 passes completed, 2 key passes etc
I love using a Poacher, Enganche and an Anchor tactic on my teams when I have the right players. That's the south american way!
Keep it up with this kind of videos 👍🏽
god damn you got 3 guys moving about the picture like they in wheelchairs
@@liam8664 they are the spine of your team. You need to support them with other complementary roles, the higher the level the team is, the more mobility and responsibilities you can add to them changing their roles. That's why I say it's the south american way 👍🏽
@@SCDLKD it sounds fun tbf, I tried playing a system like Diniz but never got it to work unfortunately, would be interested to see your tactics tbh
@@liam8664 you can adjust it however you like, although I go for a possession tactic most of the time if I'm playing with an enganche
Not going to lie, I just played a match with these three!! An Enganche really thrives with a Poacher I've found. Gives him all kinds of space to use
super effective role imo, even slow poachers seem to do so well for me
Agreed, it can be really effective and used in a number of formations too
Great vid, I've always liked the poacher roll but feared it was made bad because it's "old fashioned". But you've shed some good light on it sir.
I think it can be detrimental if you want more of that Total Football style, since they have no concerns with build up, defending, etc... but they thrive if you go more traditional and just need a striker who's a striker
Poacher or the "squeeze that last ounce of Football out of Lewandowski" role.
Too soon hahaha
Im gonna admit i definitely undervalued poachers and actively avoided them cause i thought they were worse advance forwards. Now i see a key difference i might be able to exploit better than I thought
"Poacher is worse Advance Forward" was true, up until SI changed AF to be slightly more involved in the build up.
Before that changes AF had same vertical movement as Poacher all the while had more horizontal movement than Poacher, that's how "Poacher is worse AF" came about
Another great video!
Besides player roles i really hope to see you making videos about explaining other tactical aspects of the game(like pressing, tempo, corners etc.)😅
Anyway keep up the good work!
Thanks! I've started to get into more of the other tactical stuff in some recent videos, and hope to make some dedicated for that as well. Thanks for the suggestion!
Thank you for your content. Your videos really help me to understand FM and football even better, I'm a big fan of your editing style and the quality of your videos, I appreciate you a lot!
thank you my friend! Thank you for taking the time to write out a comment and support the channel, glad you are enjoying the videos
Yesss, the missing link I needed. Between yourself and BustTheNet, I’m good.
Thanks Stinger. The algorithm would never have made me aware of this guy.
Now excuse me while I binge it all, comment, and leave likes to try and smarten the algorithm up a bit.
I appreciate that thank you!!! And any comment that helps the algorithm is alright by me haha
Creating space should be a measurable statistic.
This is an excellent idea, however I can't think of a sensible way to measure it
Too much dependent on the defensive man
You're speaking my kind of language 🤣🤣
The football world will never truly appreciate 'space' until it directly leads to some game results, and his teammates must be engaged and successful. For instance, Messi's iconic F9 performance against Real Madrid (6-2) is hailed as a masterpiece. However, if his teammates like Henry, Eto'o, Xavi, Iniesta, or Alves hadn't capitalized on the space he created with their movement, shot, or goal, his space would be dismissed as useless. Creating space is a team effort, not solely a player's metric. Consequently, accurately measuring this aspect is challenging, even with technology. Different observers may have varying opinions on whether created space was good or useless.
Great to see the poacher getting some love!!
Is it okay if I say every role is underrated?? Cause this is a really underrated role haha
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker to be fair, there's probably some truth to it. In so much as a lot are misunderstood/misutilised, which is what makes this series such a banger!
So many advice, good tips and other usefull details the only thing i need to do is to make a simple tactics with all the information....No problem 😅😅😂😂. Once again great job 🙌🏼
thank you! And sometimes simple is best for tactics!
Love this video. Yes, exactly, poacher is not (mainly) goalscorer, he is space creator. Additionally if you have strong, tall, good header as a poacher. Oh my.. He will always has double cover in the box so CMa or IFa will have planty of time and space to score. If left with only one man marking him, he will in nearly every match score a header. His Forward runs also create time and space for APs. Number of key passes increase. I am definitely in love in poacher.
One thing to add: with poacher there have to be someone who can hold the ball in midflied. If not, you will be forced to play only on wings. Ball needs to be play in the middle to use poacher abilities to create space in 100%.
Thanks for great video! ❤
The way the Poacher draws attention from a center back is unparalled; even in some of those clips, he essentially took out back-3 formations by himself.
And great addition with the AP. He's the role that most benefits from that space he creates
man you are so underrated Im a new subscriber! learn so much understanding the roles from these videos. an intresting video I would hope you make one time is about how to match player roles or how to get "green links" between players.
thank you! and welcome to the channel!!
And thanks for the video suggestions! I do need to do something on player links and matching player roles
this video coming after I just signed a 6'3 18 year old Brazilian poacher with 16 finishing (regen) is such a blessing, given I have never used the role on FM
Ha that is good timing! It's like FM knew what video was going to be released lol
You should mention poachers in lower tempo posession systems. Very different profile to the pure speedster. I’ve had great success with the crazy mental attributes and a nice first touch in teams that want to get ball slowly into the box.
that's a great suggestion, thanks. I'll have to try some more of the Poacher in some lower tempo stuff. I had some luck when I used a variation in my possession tactic
Ah, yes. The role you are forced to use in lower league saves.
it's also useful in higher leagues too. the one thing that poacher do really well is central defensive pressure. he will pin the opp cb back. advanced forward tend to drift wide to the channels becoming almost like a winger. resulting in him becoming less of a threat in the middle
I do wonder how many lower league saves have used a poacher haha
Great video as always. A little suggestion of mine is that maybe you should consider recommending players that best suit the profiles you explain in your player profile discourse videos.
Great suggestion, thanks! I agree, I think that would help the videos. I'll see about adding in some more player attribute/analysis stuff in future role videos
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Great! Looking forward to it.
Pure. Gold.
Keep bringing high level tactic contents,mate
I appreciate that thank you!
you make the best FM videos! would love to see videos on how to create space against tactics with 3 defenders and 2 DM's i've been seeing a lot in the recent FM games. or against tactics that sit deep
thanks!! And you're right, I've been seeing those formations a bunch too. I've got some tactic stufff coming soon that should help (or at least hopefully help haha)
Awesome videos dude! Your analysis on various roles in fm have given me a better understanding of how the work and the type of players I need to olay those roles to their full potential. I hope you do a video on the target forward someday, I really want to know the difference between them and other playmaking forwards like the deep-lying forward (other than they are physically stronger).
Thank you so much, glad you enjoyed the videos!!
The Target Forward video is in the works, but maybe not right away! In the mean time, the biggest difference between the TF and the DLF is the creativity. They will both drop deep to receive passes, but a TF will just play simple passes to teammates. Whereas a DLF is expected to create chances as well.
The trade off is that, like you alluded to, the TF is much more dominant in the box since they're usually more physical (so winning headers, holding off defenders, etc...)
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Thanks a lot man, that really helped
Great videos man and keep up the good work.
thank you 🙏
I used a poacher in conjunction with an advanced forward and the poacher created a lot of space for the AF to score. My issue is the poacher is not scoring very often (especially in two striker systems) so they would not get high ratings to develop (both strikers are wonderkids)
Poacher and AF are excellent together; I've used them in a couple of these videos. I will say the lack of match rating for their development would not be ideal, very true
Your videos made me obsessed with Segundo Volante. But I pair with a regista haha will sub in an anchor if I have the lead
I bet you get some awesome playmaking out of those two!!
Thank you for this video! I really appreciate your effort on creating such quality videos.
You're welcome! Thank you for the kind words and I'm glad you're enjoying the videos
I love a good poacher. Especially if they thrive in big matches. They will win you the big matches.
I can only imagine a Poacher with that player ability... it'd be like a superhero in a cup final hahaha
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker I had an Austrian wonderkid named Peter Verhounig. He had the most perfect attributes for the poacher role and won me back to back UCLs.
@@LordRobrecht I just picture you keeping him in a garage like a Ferrari or something and then when you make it to the UCL final, open up the garage, and say "time to go" 😂😂
Nice Video. I thought about something smart to add but u mentioned everyhting perfectly so the only thing i came up with was:
FOR THE ALGORYTHM
The best kind of comment!!! haha
Love the poacher. Have you ever tried him with a Ramdeuter? He exploits the space the poacher creates, a perfect pairing.
No but I'm going to try that pair together right away!! Thanks for the suggestion
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Just started getting into the Ramdeuter, I view him as an “off the ball” playmaker…if that makes sense.
Poacher, aka Filippo Inzaghi
Thank you ))
Waiting for your vision of Targetman.
And I'm trying to implement an overthehead into the space ping-passing counter tactic with a pacey forward. It worked great let's say in FM2019... but i can't do anything this time.
Got some good stuff coming for the Target Forward! Whenever that video releases haha
hey man. great video! Keep doing u for real. Any plans in the future to live stream ur fm24 games?
Really appreciate that thank you!! And don't have any plans to stream at the moment; I've thought about doing it though! Nothing imminent I will say though. Thanks again for supporting the channel
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Oh I see. I hope ur channel blows up fr. So underrated.
I'm not a big fan of poachers but I've used them on occasion on teams where there weren't any better options. They can be devastating if well supported especially on lower leagues where having a 15-15 acc-pace poacher can mean instant promotion...
Sometimes it can be good when you're like "I don't know what to use for a striker.... just stand there at the top I guess" lol
The poacher is the no-nonsense forward or as I like to call it, the 'hold position' forward.
A no-nonsense forward is a fantastic name for this role!!! I wish I thought of it 😂😂😂 A perfect description for it
When you are looking at a youngster while thinking "I should try this guy as a poacher" and a poacher video of your FM teacher pops up...😅
Now you have to use a Poacher, it's fate!!!
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker is pace really needed? FM trains only acceleration as physical for poachers
@@VurtAddicted I've used Poachers with low pace for their league, so you can totally have success with them.
In the possession tactic video I did, I used a Poacher in that Luton team, and he only had a Pace attribute of like 13 (so low for the premier league). Can still be effective!
Only a short burst of movement is needed to draw a defender. He doesnt need to outrun the defender over long distances.
@@Abbelboxe makes sense. I always think about Inzaghi when I try to envision a poacher
Great stuff again
Appreciate that!
Quality video as usual. I really like the poacher role. Haaland with this role bagged over 40 goals for me in an FM 23 save
We'll start a Poacher Support group where we convince everyone else how great the role is 😆😆
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker my personal problem with the poacher, and the reason why I seldom use them, is that I feel like a poacher won't put enough pressure on the opposing backline when out of possession. I might be entirely wrong about that since I've never done any research to either prove it or disprove it, it's just a feeling I have.
@@arturillosmeriglia8029 he does put pressure on centrally
When I used a poacher I had DLF on support and I've never had one score so many goals as when he played alongside a poacher.
The Poacher does so well with other striker partners, especially those that can drop deep (F9, DLF, CF)
The role that helped Dovbyk won me an UCL in my Nottingham Forest save 😂
I need to make a video on a player role Hall of Fame, where you guys submit what player did their best in each role. A place we can honor all our favorites haha
Starting to realise your channel matches up with my love of F1
"ALL THE TIME YOU HAVE TO LEAVE THE SPACE"
As a side note, have you played the F1 manager games? Are they any good/comparable to FM?
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker I dabbled but haven't had a proper go at it. It's not bad overall.
okay do a video on how to use the data hub.
that's a real good suggestion thanks! I do need to do something on the data hub
Great video as usual.
What about the poacher defensive contribution?
Not much defensively. Sometimes they'll track back, but mostly they stay up the field looking to make forward runs
I use poacher but in a 433 system,
In away games I like to use a quick pass possesion system while at home a low tempo game
Now I use a mezella instead of a seg volunte
What do you think creates the difference between the Segundo volante and mezella
Although my mezz guy is scoring good i am interested to see what volante will do ?
the SV will be more defensive focused than a Mezzala and will be a secondary scoring threat since they have to make a run from deeper. I've got couple of videos on the Segundo Volante if you would like some in depth videos on it
Just starting this video, when are we going to see a Cubs cap my guy?
What in the Jermain Defoe is going on?
What do you think of a poacher & Treq in AMC combo
I don't think I've used the two with a lot of regularity, but my guess is they would be great together! Treq will have a lot of space to roam in the AM area (or wherever you place him). You'd probably need some hard working midfielders to cover behind them since they won't do a ton defensively
still waiting for the raumdeuter ❤
thank you for the patience!! The Ram probably won't be in the near future, but I've started some early work on a video if it makes you feel better! Thanks again
bro, can you make a video about enganche? feels like an unending puzzle for me every time i use this role
I don't think a video dedicated to the Enganche is on the way anytime in the immediate future. But if you check out my possession tactic video, that one uses an enganche if you want to see get some early ideas on how to use it
Okay maybe i need to rewatch that video. But, I still waiting for the video cause your content has help me a lot. Keep making this content dude
finally my request!
I hope you liked it!! Or at least got some mild enjoyment out of it 😆😆
Ok, so the guy with the most focus on scoring just needs to exist somewhere around the penalty box, so that others can score. Got it.
Pretty much. "Go stand in the penalty box and we'll call you when the match is over" hahaha
What do you think about using a second striker behind the poacher? Or would they just pressure the backline too?
I love it! They should play side by side when you get in the box and they're a great pair together
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker sick mate. Thanks for the reply, and for all the videos. They really are top quality and even though I’ve got nigh on 2000 hours on FM23 (it being my first game in the series) they’ve really helped my understanding of the in-game tactics and, by proxy, football as a whole.
Moreover, I think your continued engagement with your commenters as your channel has grown is really admirable.
@@andrewmattern8185 Thanks!! And welcome to the FM family. No better way to spend your time haha. And appreciate the comments about engagement! Very grateful that the channel has grown the way it has and that people have been enjoying the videos
Credits too Filippo Inzaghi for this role 😅what a legend
I wish FM had a hall of fame for each player role, showing who played best the best over the years
ANOTHER ONE SUIII
So poacher is like a space investigatoooor
Pretty much! I also like "space creator" as well!
My poacher is mostly always offside help 😢
Ooo now that's a tough one haha. In the short term, maybe go to shorter passing? That could help with your teammates playing passes that keep him onside. In the long term, I would train him on the "likes to beat offside trap" player trait
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Thanks a bunch 👊
Can I use a poacher in a 4-1-4-1 formation?
Absolutely! What were you thinking about for your central midfield? I think a Central Midfielder (Attack) and a Box to Box midfielder would work great.
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker Oh, thanks 4 the reply. I asked cuz I'm using a DLF with an attack duty, and in some matches, my team is not performing well. When I saw your video, I thought I could use a poacher when I need to attack.
@@S3oowd No problem! I love a 4141 so I've experienced the same sorts of issues, don't fret haha. I noticed when I would use a DLF, he would drop to receive the ball, but nobody would be pressuring the defensive backline (since in a 4141 the wingers are sitting further back). This allow the defense to compress your team, since no one is making those aggressive forward runs.
Sometimes a Poacher can help, if only to keep that defensive backline honest
@@S3oowddepends on what kind of system you play in my opinion. Poacher doesn't care about being involved in the build up, unlike AF and PF, so using him in a system that's leaning towards possession style isn't a good idea.
Literally Cristiano Ronaldo nowadays, especially when he doesn't score 😅
"Go stand up top, we'll call you when we need you" haha
I have an odd enjoyment of this role, for no good reason 😂
It's because you're an FM user of culture and dignification, able to recognize the greats hahaha
@@TheDeepLyingPlaymaker I suppose that's could be it, could also be influenced by the youth academy player I got when managing at Waterford with 15 finishing and 13 off the ball (pretty good for the Irish league) who banged them in as a poacher 😂 😂
The Haaland role 😂
The ultimate poacher hahaha
My first season with my fm23 Brighton save was carried by a young Evan Ferguson as a poacher! I wouldn’t use this role now except in a pair but it holds a special place in my heart 🫡
Like an old friend you've drifted away from as life goes on, but you still recall the fond memories together haha
Very good contents KR
Thank you!