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This is actually Farfa’s confession he’s been a member of the Ghostrick community all along.
ikr
Either ghostrick community member or altergeist fan club member 🤔
one of us, one of us
The Genex gang
I thought the Altergeist fans hated MBT too lol
"are you trying to bring it back just for the sake of bringing it back?"
Yes. That is precisely the point. What is the maximum number of things we can bring back without destroying Yu-Gi-Oh
Also something I've noticed with MBTs banlist is that he unbans pieces going "well this thing alone doesn't break them" and then he does the same thing for the other pieces so it is busted
(Looks at Djinn) "This alone doesn't break Drytron"
Proceeds to unban Eva.
@@Supergupo herald build is way better than including djinn anyway
@@youngdoodle yeah, Drytron doesn't really synergizes with Djinn but it's terrible for future proofing
Procedes to unban master peace that ruined all of his tournaments. Way to go.
@@lorenzolombardi3369 dragon ruler lost round one 😂😂😂😂😂😂
“Are you bringing back Victory Dragon just for the sake of bringing it back?” Yes Farfa, that is the entire point of the Moron Banlist Tournament.
A shame, because it used to be better, a thought out list of cards that could come back....now is indeed just 'cause.
@@jonatassilva2605 yeah I will agree, bringing back cards you know are only there for technical reasons rather than playability is pointless for an online tourney
Previous Moron Banlists were more thoughtful because they were made with the idea of actually releasing cards that don't need to be there. Last time MBT said himself that now that he has done that, the goal is just to release as many cards as possible, basically for the sake of it. If you want a more thoughtful Moron Banlist, watch previous videos where he did that. No point making the same video over and over again
@@TheSaicoKiller eh this is a bit silly as the meta changes and cards will interact with them differentky
@@geiseric222 A the point is to be silly B yes but realistically there has been little cards that changed because the cards he originally picked are just bad. There are exceptions like Time Seal, which sucks, might not suck as much since Labrynth is a thing. Surely he could make another more serious one but refer to point A
Cope, seethe, mald.
Witness as true Draco wins yet another MBT
All I know what to do anymore is summon fibrax, it's been so long. I don't know what yugioh is anymore. The other day, I drew Veiler and tried to normal summon it. In Plant format. Everything has become fibrax to me. There are no other monsters, no spells other than tuning. The only trap i know how to activate is conquistador. Occasionally I add back a card with barricadeborg, and I cry a little. I attack for game but wish I was being gamed instead. It's become a joke of sorts, or maybe it's just my life. I can't go anywhere without seeing auroradon combos. I went to feed my dog the other night, but instead of eating she turned into a link 1 and summoned 2 tokens that can't be used for a link summon that turn. I had to put her down. I sit in the corner now counting down the days, the days where we shall see sweet release from this torment, the day when synchro summoning was about 2 monsters having a special bond and creating something beautiful. Those days are long gone. I have seen God, and I have seen the devil, but they are one and the same. I stared into the abyss and screamed, and it screamed back: "summon linkross effect”
@@KyunaCookies spoilers: it didn't
@@LostEndgame oh god I can't wait, no spoil.
I'm guessing maybe uh
Despia
FARFA the point isn't to make the game more fun the whole thing is "how many cards can I take off before the game is destroyed"
This, lmao
>Starts with Victory Dragon
ALSO im raging that they banned verte that was my whole joke, makeVerte :(
The question isn't "Is this good?", it's "Did Icarus really go high enough?"
I get the critique of master peace, that is a clearly broken piece he should know from his other mad science experiments
Just like watching this when it happened on stream, no one can tell if Farfa understood the bit for about half the video.
The thing I think he’s misrepresenting here is that MBT has to hit a quota, he doesn’t genuinely think these cards should come off but he’s saying that if you have to un ban 90 cards then these are the least bad
@@alexYu-gi-oh he literally put them all to three tho
@@alexYu-gi-oh He put the Exodia pieces to 3, though? They're on the last slide of cards to unlimit
@@TheMatt_SD yeah, he did.
@@pmrobin8 well yeah. What does putting every banned card to 1 even do? You get staples but that really all it is. It'd just be already existing decks running these one of staples and nothing else. When u unban cards to 3 then you introduce more decks that can be played so it's actually entertaining rather than watching normal yugioh with a strong card every now and then.
@@Unknownz000 what does putting every card to 1 do? Uh you get trad format
farfa doesn't understand that fun is irrelevant
it's about causing as much suffering as possible
Thats why its called the MASOCHIST banlist after all.
i find causing suffering to be fun :)
*THE PLEASURE OF PAIN*
Farfa is really hufing on that copium implying current YGO is fun even with all these cards banned, especially because most of the overpowered getting banned are a must of in rogue decks.
One man's pleasure is another man's suffering.
Farfa and MBT need to duel now with all the strats they can think of.
Farfa only knows 6 decks: Evilswarm, Infernity, BA, Ignister, Adamanciptaor and Draco Pals. So it's going to be alittle hard.
@@bl00by_ I have definitely seen him use more
@@bl00by_ I have seen farfa play infernoids and ligthsworn grass
@@saif19845 Have you seen him play them well?
"Flip it over and summon and ftk and also extended."
Truly a legend
He was obviously referring to extending the handshake for such an amazing match. :)
The card does read "you have infinite normal summons per turn", and can explicitly be used during your opponent's battle phase to normal summon any number of monsters. Are we pretending that special summons aren't good specifically because you can do as many as you want per turn?
@@dontmisunderstand6041 The problem is that since it's a trap card, the earliest you could use it is during your opponents battle phase, and at that point it's definitely going to get either destroyed or negated.
@@agushernandezquiroga9064 Baiting a negate sounds good enough to make it in a deck to me.
@@dontmisunderstand6041 I mean, if baiting a negate or destruction on a card that can only be activated in the battle phase is good enough, might as well be playing Drowning Mirror Force. Mass, non-targetting, banishing removal for no cost or need to have normal summonable monsters in hand to activate and is searchable with trap trick. But nobody plays it because the opponents battle phase is too late to activate trap cards.
I thought Joseph was pretty open about how this one and the previous banlist "prediction" lists were about seeing how much you could take off the list without actually changing what the best decks are, not making the game more fun. Like no shit this list sucks ass, he's not actually advocating we do this
@UC3y55kzpWt7Jty6PTP4SriA still a dumb concept
He even calls it "The Masochist Banlist"
Saying that Konami could unban these cards today and it wouldn't change anything implies otherwise.
@@Meanlucario by “it wouldn’t change anything” he meant “the current best decks would remain the best decks,” not that the game would be complete unaffected
@@UniGya He says as True Draco, Syncrons. and the latest tournament says otherwise.
Danny in chat: "I love this tournament for the reactions" while Farfa is losing his mind over the banlist
MBT: "Here's a list of cards that could come off and not make all that much of a ruckus. It's not a wish list - just a list to test my own, admittedly degenerate format."
Farfa: "WOAH I CANT BELIEVE MBT WANTS ALL THESE CARDS BACK IN THE GAME"
I think i saw you in duel links Reddit
Damn Farfa just going through his Joker Arc rn.
Guys it's just a joke relax lmao, no we don't have beef.
Is justa joke why hab to be mad?
Too late I'm already seething, boiling, malding and coping even
When the copium needs to huff copium to keep up
I'm still seething with rage. How dare.
Farfa. This is not a wish list. MBT does not want these cards unbanned to make the game better.
It’s to challenge Konami into being more open to removing cards from the ban list that do not need to be there.
Should Victory Dragon stay banned? Yes.
Should cards like Trap Dustshoot, an ancient ban that was situational at best in its hayday of 20,000 years ago, stay banned? No.
That’s the point he’s trying to make.
It’s just a silly idea to have some fun with a wacky ban list for a tournament to goof on Konami.
Yeah but his reasoning is still bad
@@fukou_da Yeah, but in practice said cards aren't broken anymore or only broken in pretty specific situations.
@@Machiroable It's still pretty silly to say something like "making Verte is better than activating Fusion Destiny from the hand"
You are a big fucking dumb dumb just as MBT. He is not trying to make a point, he is just an "entertainer" doing "entertaining" things for his stupid audience.
@@fukou_da Which is more likely to happen in a game, you summon 2 monsters? Or you hard draw FD? I'm pretty sure that was his point and not literally that if you have FD in hand already you should make verte instead cause thats better.
lmao farfa really channeling his viewer's intelligence and reading comprehension for today's video
Here we see three diferent Views of the game:
Farfa - priorizing fun
MBT- Prefers varieties of stratrgies instead of fun
Konami: MONEY GOES BRRR
MBT - Prefers chaos
@@ashikjaman1940 theduellogs: gimmick decks and Akiza memes
5:35 - none of your fingers have effects that activate in the graveyard.
Feel like Farfa is kinda missing the point of the video
I think he believes (or chat told him) that this was MBT’s genuine banlist prediction/wishlist rather than a challenge to god to smite him for his hubris
doesn't he usually miss the point?
The sad part is that MBT only gave like a day and a half for people to make decks with this list before submissions closed so probably no one got time to make things genuinely spicy
Yea that's the real flaw with these banlists. Ideally he'd give at least a week or so for people to lab stuff
I like how farfa either doesn't understand MBT's unban series or understands it but malds about it anyway just because he wants to.
He knows but the "rage" clickbait is ez content for him.
@@ZelniteMH Imagine you're so desperate for clicks that you have to do something like this, meanwhile most other yugitubers put out quality content.
16:00 Verte is literally better. It dodges the most commonly played card in the game, Ash Blossom. The point is that with Verte, every hand can get to FD. Without Verte, you have to hard draw FD.
Remember, FD as a spell takes a card out of your hand while Verte can just send from Deck and randomly dodges things like Crossout/Prohibition too.
The power of verte is any two monsters do it, in most cases you've already checked for ash before hard activating FD unless your hand is bad and you were gonna do DPE pass or something.
It’s really not, if your opponent saved an Ash for the final play then they already lost lol
But if you ban FD, guess what happens, you can't neither hard draw it, nor use It with verte. But i guess It doesn't matter because verte Is now banned anyway, but still
@@blinktwice296 One month later, guess I was right. Nobody except HERO is playing DPE after Verte got banned and Ash is still the most popular handtrap.
Decks are now much more diverse now. Obviously there's still problems but we have Despia, Swordsoul, Flundereeze, Therion PUNK, Dragon Link, etc. as the top decks. Verte was "the problem" of the package.
@@Boristien405 ngl idk what I was on with that comment lol. I feel like I always knew Verte was the problem, but maybe it’s cause I was salty that so many people in the past did hard draw FD against me despise me negating Verte lol
This is how the endless conga line of content starts this year. I can't wait for Joseph's response and then Farfa's reponse to that and so on
Oroboros once again
"The masochist banlist"
Farfa: How is this fun?!?!?!??
Sorry dude but you need a big wooosh for the video as the entire point of this series kinda went over your head.
The idea is stupid itself since it’s not accurate this format is just for one event a realistic format is many events over many months where innovation happens.
Its actually puzzling to me how engage is at 1 but harp horror is still banned
You wan't to Engage! banned? I can support that.
I think the logic is, Harp at 1 is Harp at 7 for Orcust due to Girsu and Scars. Where as Engage is maybe at 2 on any specific turn. I would love to be able to have Harp Horror back just because the deck really hurts without it, but that might be the logic.
@@Tanka036 i know what you mean but yeah the deck is really crippled still
@@Rastaboulotte not that but want one horror
@@hyperion1644 true, I want to play Orcust as well, gonna buy max rarity and cope/wait for horror back
I watched this live, and it really feels like farfa just didnt realize that the Point of the list is to bring everything back you CAN. "How does this make it more fun?" - DOESNT MATTER, thats not the point.
Didn't Farfa LITERALLY commentate one of these tournaments too?
But the point of the list is not just nerfing powerful archetypes, but we also want to get rid of obnoxious cards. We are 100% sure plant ftk or "solemn cards+ last turn+ barrier statues" lists won't be any near to competitive, but boy if they can be ridiculous to play against.
Farfa argument is not so weak and I believe the masochistic tournament while fun it doesn't prove at all if some cards could or couldn't come out from the list safely.
Imma search Change of Heart with Alembertian and nobody can stop me
2:47 Laplacian: "maniacal laughter"
The point of the Moron Banlist Tournament is too unban as many cards as possible. It's not about fun
It's called the Moron / Masochist Banlist Tournament for a reason, it's intentionally anti-fun, the only limit is that it shouldn't unreasonably raise the power level of top meta matchups, or in other words, straight-up break the game.
He is just very honest about what he wants to do, ok. He quite literally stated the purpose of this is to destroy yugioh forever
Idk if farfa realizes that mbt doesn't want the whole banlist to be at 3. This is basically how many unbans can I do without absolutely fucking the game over. And I honestly think his unbans are reasonable since theyre literally the ones that don't kill the game completely.
They would in an actual tournament setting and time to do proper testing, but the point is to have a funny draw droll or lose tournament so we don't care about that
Farfa: "YOU CAN'T UNBAN THINGS JUST FOR THE SAKE OF UNBANNING THEM!"
Cry about it lol.
Farfa cries about everything from the state of us politics to really anything and everything under the sun. His entire channel is false outrage.
It takes a unique set of skills to double the length of a video and still not get the point XD
I think an important thing to note about MBT's banlist tournaments is that:
1) Eveyrone knows everyone else's deck list going in, so you can play specific counter cards like Eschatos with precision, and
2) He's lying anyway, because he gives himself the ability to veto certain decks from being entered, so you can't just freely take advantage of the ban list he curated.
Exactly. Everyone is on Droll in every one of these tournaments. It is frustrating. It is always "See, FTKs and endless draw power doesn't work. Just draw Droll." Like... hello? lol. Nobody like formats where you either play Droll or lose.
@@orga7777 but the point isn't to make a good format the point is to unban 90 cards
@@Trojanexe-gk8kf That is fine and all, but that isn't what Joseph says in the videos. He honestly thinks it changes nothing in the format.... Except now everyone is forced to main deck Droll and Lock Bird or lose in seconds.
@@orga7777 He doesn’t genuinely think removing all these cards won’t have ANY impact. He’s just trying to prove the point that the banlist should be more lenient by taking it to extrema. And if he’s sorta wishy-washy ab his argument, it weakens it (tho I will admit his rushed arguments for each card and curating which decks can be allowed in the tournament also weakens his argument but really it’s about clickbait and about getting his point across about how stingy the banlist is currently)
Its funny how the winner of the tourney was:....
Infernoble.
"Sometimes his reasons are just a bunch of words". Wasn't MBT in law school or am I making that up?
Yes, he was :)
Doesn't mean he's good at it. There's sovereign citizens who studied law
The problem is that commenters don't understand that Farfa doesn't need to unserstand it, he's just being funny. It's fine, Farfa is dumb, MBT is dumb, we don't have to stress over it, just laugh it off
To play devil's advocate about fusion destiny: activating verte can't be ash'd vs raw activating destiny. There's also the variable of not needing to have the destiny in hand to make use of it whereas verte is always live so long as you can put 2 bodies on the board. Which is statistically more likely than topdecking a 3-of. In a vaccuum raw dropping destiny is the better option when consistency isn't a variable however you will have a greater likelihood of just being able to make verte and banking on your opponent not having imperm, vieler, or gamma.
So verte can't be ashed but can be hit by 3 other commonly played hand traps
Also that's the point, you use verte for when you don't open fd and make something better than verte when you do open it
I guess I'm missing something. How can verte dodge ash?
@@zacharycannaday6075 first off, sending the fusion card to the graveyard is part of verte's cost rather than effect, so you can't ash that. But what about verte's actual effect? Well verde's effect reads "this effect becomes that Spell's effect when that card is activated, also, you cannot special summon..." so verte's effect is "copy the fusion cards effect", which is not something ash can negate, even if she would've been able to negate the copied effect
Farfa having numerous mental breakdowns over MBT’s decisions is fucking fantastic.
Farfa has officially lost his mind and then lost it again
MBT is mostly right (some of his choices are insane). The forbidden list should only really contain cards that are meta relevant. If you ban every irrelevant off meta card that isn't "fun" then you are going to end up with a list clogged with trash like Gishki Gustkracken and Naturia Bamboo shoot. No matter how unfun a card is, once it loses relevance to the meta, it should leave the list.
I kinda want MBT to do a tournament where everything is at 3, just to see how badly the results would destroy Yugioh.
You literally have to play Droll at 3 to have any chance of seeing turn 2
@@masterduelzero1795 But then they draw one of their three called by and three crossout anyway so it doesn't matter
@@joshleake3517 You also play 3 if just to guarantee you draw the out.
well unlimit all draw card lead one ppl to play floodgate masterpeace and win the tournament soooo
Play IO turn 1 win the game
"How would this make the game more fun?" Oh sweet, silly, naive farfa it was never about fun it's about succeeding where Icarus failed.
Can I be honest? I think smoke granade of the thief can return now since auroradon is banned, I don't think infernoble will do other than discard 1 or 2 card, expecially now that they unlimited trishula and mermail still exist
I’m one minute in, but I can already tell this is gonna be 20 minutes of farda repeating his one bad argument about the list making things more “fun”…
Farfa: How does this make the game more fun
Title of the damn event: Masochist banlist tournament
Cry about it
Projection
He skews this so hard. Mbt chillin
The funniest part to me about the moron banlist is that it put duo to 1 but not COH
COH is just a weird unban from Konami. Just put Mind Control to 2 and you have the exact same thing as now but not as strong.
Farfa did you.... Just make this thinking it was a banlist wishlist or something? Do you not understand the actual concept of the ---> Moron
2:13 how is that any more egregious than flunder? Flunder can also protect the statue way easier than books can protect jowgen and can play through Ash.
Thus the cycle of MBT unbanning Masterpeace, realising how terrible this decision was only to then unban it again in the next moron banlist shall continue.
The game is fun when you get to play with your cards. Every card that doesn't break the game should be unbanned.
Farfa doesn't seem to understand the point of the video and neither does his chat.
Theres something about the way MBT jingles keys that truly makes me believe anything is possible.
i play goat format a lot and you know uhm, duo can never come back, the people who made it were batshit crazy
Tempest magician is ultra easy to get out with endymion pend stuf and with selen getting a million counters ...
Not that easy
The main problem with Yu-Gi-Oh is that ppl think the answer to each format is to ban a bunch of cards they don't like instead of just letting the power creep sink in
Yeah with all the going second cards that exist currently, I agree the solution isn’t always a nuclear banlist. We did need certain cards to go this format, just for the health of the game though.
Wait, a reasonable comment? On a Farfa video? Did I enter an alternate universe somehow?
in a game about back and forth plays the mentality that you need to ban strong cards instead of making other cards good/better is very ironic.
I didn't realize anyone had even responded to me but cool
Also real quick
Verte is better than Fusion Destiny because the likelihood of you having two monsters left to make verte is higher than the chance that you naturally drew fusion destiny
Fusion Destiny costs less to activate but can also brick your hand with multiple copies. A card's versatility and accessibility is sometimes more important than its stated effects.
@@LilyApus To be fair there are lots of situations where the solution of "make stronger card" causes even more problems.
We don't need a card that can out rhongo. That way you just end up creating cards that blanket out everything.
Not that konami isn't already playing whack a mole with powercreep on bosses and outs, thats how we ended up with DRNM and Droplet.
a lot of the unhits he lists are because it would be funny to unhit them, victory dragon is terrible but it's funny, mass driver is dumb but ftk is funny
How is that "funny"? I swear mbt's community calls everything funny just because. Like how is it a fun experience for you to go to a tournament just to play against some dumb player who plays last turn or victory dragon and u have to waste 20 minutes on judge calls instead of just playing the game
@@alexYu-gi-oh Because the tournament you're going to is against other MBT viewers (hand-picked by MBT) and the point is to make the most of this banlist and so nobody will play Victory Dragon anyway?
Mass driver is also absolutely awful. We have 3x cannon soldier who is infinitely more searchable and summonable than a continuous spell that isnt part of an archetype.
Also as MBT said if you can summon 20 times you can make a billion negates or have already gotten nibiru'd.
Pay offs are hardly ever the issue. Game is all about how consistent your engine is and how well it plays through handtraps.
@@livingbeing4517 he said victory dragon is "funny" so im trying to understand where the fun in that card. Please dont try to be a smartass
@@luminous3558 this. Back in Danger! Darkworld FTK that deck would've ran soldier over driver due to how flexible the card is over a continuous spell especially since if you discarded it you just went with plan B of 5000 negates and used the potential extra dark in grave for cards like beginning of the end.
"The end board is already good it does not matter if it becomes better." means literally nothing else than "if you are able to summon auroradon and your opponent is not able to stop your combo, it does not really matter how much the end board is improved in later steps. You will either not be able to win no matter what or you will be able to break that board. The amount of negates does not matter.
Thanks for making it clear for the people who don't get it
Farfa jesus. The point of the video just flew 80mph above your head.
The last episode of The masochist banlist series would have MBT removing every card from the banlist and destroying Yugioh once and for all thus saving the environment and preventing the end of the world.
Victory Dragon should be errata to make it "also If your opponent surrenders at any point the turn you summon this card, win the match"
About the cards Farfa has an issue with:
Victory Dragon doesn't work in closed tournaments like this. With the amount of resources it would take to normal it, you could just win the game. Even then, match winners only work in the ocg where you can't just scoop on your opponent's turn.
Djinn doesn't work in Drytron, the only viable ritual deck currently. Unless we see some Nekroz, I don't see anyone playing it.
I agree about Duo. It should stay banned.
Truedraco... He just wants to watch his tournament burn.
Misc is literally the only reason Dino could be competitive. The deck still loses to a bunch of the meta.
Even without Verte, every deck is still gonna splash DPE. The third copy of Fusion Destiny won't do anything but clog your hand after turn 1.
Tempest Magician is only plausible in Endymion and we all know how unviable pend is.
Probally just me and a few others but ultimate offering comes off, monarch players would want to normal/tribute summon on their oponent's turn, but thats nieche.
Example your oponents turn during battle phase, they try to chain monster offects, you can chain uo tribute into either majesty's fiend to stop the stack, casius to banish something, mobius to destroy two back ground, or even better the mega monarchs or erebus/ehther for more disruption
MBT is the guy who watched Jurassic Park and decides he wants to clone dinosaurs as well, ignoring the movie's cautionary tale.
Actually ultimate offering would be extremely good on monarchs, using your squires on your oponents turn to generate tribute fodder and then using them to summon more monarchs, and also if you could summon 1 erebus on your turn and other on the oponents turn it straight up loops 2 cards and then you the other monarchs
"untargetable monster that pops a card" masterpiece is just a shity dragoon you have to normal summon
Change of heart is scary, use the meteor hand trap and change of heart on the token to one shot.
There are much stronger turn 3 plays if you get to resolve nibiru and your opponent has an empty field
It's basically impossible to lose if you do that anyway
Turns out when you skip the explanation at the start of the video you have no idea what the entire point of it is, and create a 20 minute bad take.
Who knew?
Errata Victory Dragon so that it says "While this card is on the field, your opponent cannot forfeit" and it can comr back.
Really you are doing your opponent a favor with Duo letting them choose what card goes to the GY, totally fair and should be bumped to 3. 1000%
Sorry, i was really high when i typed that first part.
"SHUT UP!!!" *Pauses video*
Bro I lost it. 😂
The Delinquient Duo logic is the same level of brainworms as people that say pot of greed can come back.
pot of greed could come back to one it would be extremely generic and would see play across every format but it wouldn't be a problem card for most decks
PoG can come back because you can draw Dasher + Celestial
Sorry Farfa, but I love MBT
I came here specifically just so i had an excuse to watch MBT's video again.
but mbt perfectly understands how konami works. they too don't ask whats the most enjoyable or sensible or has any explanation at all
Farfa, you guys should team up and make a unban banlist together.. you could keep each other in check and make it bigger and see what can actually be done
The Brainworms really got farfa this time
o7
Victory Dragon would be a great comeback. Think about it: Every event, they devote 15 seconds to explaining that it will never resolve. Effs over the people who thought they could be cheeky. Then it just becomes an inside joke.
I love how MBT labelled Farfa as patient zero of brain worms when he predicted Engage being unbanned and he does this. The true brain worms patient zero reveals himself.
THIS IS NOT A WISHLIST
Farfa freaking out over Masterpeace when there's Accesscode, Branded and Adventure stuff to deal with it. Y'all need to stop living in 2017
The problem with master peace (or any true draco cards back at 3, really) is that the card makes ppl play floodgate.dek, it's not only about the master peace. True draco can have all their stuffs back at 3 except master peace and the deck will still be a pain in the ass
@@dhanyl2725 Isn't this the same argument people have against Guru, Altergeist and Eldlich players?
Let's see,unaffected by card effects,pops a card every turn,and us backed up by shit like monarchs erupt. And the ONLY real out is a kaiju. Yea okay boss you keep thinking this cards somehow worse than the shit you listed.
@@dhanyl2725 and yet true draco deck need tons generic draw engine to make it work and tcg banlist already killed tons generic draw not to mention the Advanture engine gonna kill those Skill drain/monarch erupt anyway, so idk man imo masterpeace would mid at the best in current tcg format
warping meta? sure on early few week before ppl realize how outdated true draco engine but i'm still willing to proven wrong tho
@@KingLIFEDRAIN despia literally just summons Guardian Chimera and smacks over it.
Did MBT every actually say hes removing cards to make the game more fun?
No
It's a series of tournaments over time that are trying to see how many can be unbanned before the game stops being playable
Mass Driver is definitely not coming back with Morphtronic Telefon on its way now.
His argument wasn’t you should. His argument was you could, and it’d make little to no difference to the competitive scene.
What are these drastically escalating analogies lol
2:03 do you think Konami ever asks this? Because I don't think they ever have so why should MBT?
Duo is funny to me because there's a psychic support card where you tribute one of your psychic monsters and they shuffle their hand and draw three which was always funny turn one.
I also hate Mcock & Ball Torture
your finger doesnt have a grave effect
I swear, anyone who doesn't understand why Duo needs to stay dead are likely the same people that thinks PoG and/or Graceful Charity are fair and balanced cards. These individuals should quietly return to smashing their heads into cinderblocks.
And that unlimited list.... Dear god, it's like he wants Deck Destruction FTK/OTK to come back.
Card Destruction, Macro Cosmo, Dimensional Fissure, Morphing Jar, and Necroface all at max and you're golden. Flesh out the deck with hand reload and draw cards for yourself, and deck destruction spell and traps for the opponent and you're golden. Heck, with a Deck Destruction build like this you could run almost all the Pot cards without any issues.
Aqua dolphin also needs you to discard, you give up one to potentially remove one, it also doesn't work (and you get burned) if they have no monsters in hand
Delinquent duo doesn't care
The guy who thought engage couldn't come back to 1 is now like this, crazy LOL
see I WANT to agree with you on Delinquent Duo...
but at the same time, Heat Wave is a going 1st autowin tool against most non-backrow decks that is apparently fine at 3...
Who tf knows anymore lol
At this point MBT it's Vigilante doing crazy faces
Okay one thing I do have to point out on farfas opinion on misc is the fact that it is vulnerable to hand traps through it's second effect. It's second effect for most Dino builds is very important as it can be the combo starter and if you ash, bell, called by or skull meister it, it hurts a ton. With lythosagm(however you spell it) it does mean you don't need to rely on misc as much to get archo to pop your baby but he can still be a brick in your hand.
Also misc only protects your dinosaurs so if you try your scrap combo, it can still be hit by stuff like nibiru which can shutdown the Dino player.
Basically, I do think misc might be okay to go 2 as then it means he's not as common in opening hands and if you hit the misc with a negate, they only have 1 left. This also keeps the true king variants down as with 2 misc it means you have less of a chance of getting thr fire true king effect off and he will just be even more more of a break.
They could just make a ruling where if they surrender while victory dragon in play, they forfeit the match.
MBT trying to get delinquent duo to come back 😂🤣
I mean TBF, if I see _AQUA_ and some other BS discarded by my Delinquent Duo, I would be like... (๑•﹏•)
Also... Speaking of, FARFA, WTF was that comparison with Delinquent and your _FINGERS GETTING CUT OFF_ ಠ_ಠ
This is the man who thought engage couldn’t come back