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I wonder which came first. Do you think before people began practicing martial arts with weapons, there was some kind of fist fighting technique out there?
@@valek8331 People have been punching each other since the dawn of time- same as wrestling, it's just a systematic approach to what we do naturally to begin with.
The most impressive part about this was his patience. I'm going to sound like a total weeb saying this, but he had absolutely zero wasted movements, and his sense of timing was incredible. It was mesmerizing watching him!
@KungFu_Andrew_ChangMooKwan You're absolutely right, but I was talking about the way I described it. I've seen a lot of sports and action anime use that description a lot that I've come to associate it more with anime than reality.
kendo actually derived from an actual sword art that focuses on zero useless movements. so kendo is pretty much a straight line, but nito ryu is like the same execpt its 2 lines and you do not know what direction those lines go.
You can tell someone is a true sword master by how much they DONT move lol. So many practitioner's move way too quickly even though it can be beneficial, but when you can dodge and simply outpace a technique by just waiting patiently. His precision, reach, technique, and power this is a scary man lol.
Read this comment before watching. Wow, I see what you mean. I don't really know anything about weapon based martial arts but it's not difficult to see this guy was definitely skilled. This was one of the better sparring sessions.
Ya but he is totally cheating by holding the long sword at end of the guard, there is no way that he could make a successful cut that way unless he has ridiculous wrist development which i doubt is the case.
1) Musashi's blades were notably thin & short. Musashi was unusually tall & his blades were those commonly used by people of smaller stature. Back then, people got fitted for swords like apparel. His swords were several sizes too small, so to speak. 2) Musashi believed in a very busy lead-sword approach where being the first to initiate contact was essential. jabbing the opponent in the cheek with the tip of his lead blade was a favorite technique of his, similar to a jab in boxing. 3) Musashi was fond of using wooden weapons against live blades in duels to the death: this is crazy & downright absurd, but true. Musashi realized he could kill with a single blow no matter if he had wooden weapons or steel ones & wooden weapons were much lighter & cheaper. this guy fought the best swordsmen of his day to the death using a bokken or two & never lost. 4) Musashi was on the losing end of two wars & believed the spear to be the most effective weapon overall. there is no documentation of Musashi using a spear in a duel, nor are there any accounts of his accomplishments with a spear in combat, but he did say the spear was the ultimate combat weapon & he's the best fencer Japan produced, so...
Yeah, the Yari, spear was the primary weapon, then katanas, and tantos, although having watched some modern full speed fights with mock weapons transitioning from the spear to the tanto knife in close or on the ground or even taking your opponents tanto and finishing them on the ground seems most common
True enough. I really like how he held his attacking sword by the very end of the hilt. I don't know if that sort of grip would work with live steel, but it did give him maximum reach over his opponent.
Maybe it was helped by the opposing swordsman who made very little lateral movements throughout. He didn't need to constantly adjust his angle of attacks.
I didn't mean to write this but half way it felt like a waste to delete my comment I mean that's how you really fight with giant swords you don't really move unless you want to die ,since balance is the most important thing when fighting with large objects that involve clashing against each other if counterd. Because if you move to much it make you a easy target because now your readable as f since you can only strike from a limited set of move when moving with full precision compared to when you are standing still you can just move ⬆️↗️➡️↘️⬇️↙️⬅️↖️ and land a perfect hit because you prioritized precision and balance . It almost like and sport that involves shooting a ball you get the most precision when you stop running for a second to fix your balance for that perfectly fast and precise strike.
Read the Book of Five Rings and I have to say the amount of detail and wisdom Musashi poured into those scrolls is profound. And besides all the practical weapon based knowledge, there's also some nice philosophical pieces added that can be applied to life outside of the skills in dual wielding blades he teaches. It made me happy to see it on display here on a brilliant channel like this that's starting to gain momentum and rightfully so!
Then you should know that Musashi would most probably disliked such a wrong way (Kendo style) as shown in the video. With all respect to the practicioners of “Musashi style” influence of modern Kendo in his (their) fighting too big. But this all can be just my opinion.
@@michaldante9797 no you do make a good point and I won't ever give you grief for expressing your opinion😁. There is likely differences here from.what Musashi himself would have taught but it is quite something when a sword style written about so many years ago is still talked about amd practiced with so much love and dedication by those that wish to learn it!😁
@@michaldante9797 Back then to train in the sword was to kill which I believe he states in the scrolls the way of the sword is death. So yeah a point system like we use now a days he would not like because it's not realistic or helpful in actual combat.
@@koreanitokensi Chung Taedun sensei, could you please tell me what type specific style you practice for Nitoryu, I've never practice kendo before but i would like to know about the art of Musashi
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A lot of the Nitennichiryu movements and stances look similar to the Kali forms I used to study. ...which makes sense, dual-wielding sticks/blades is a core component of Kali, so they're working from similar biomechanics. Leading with the short blade in the ready stance, also reminds me of some of the forms in fencing when using a main gauche...only we didn't have the rapier raised up in high guard like this Sensei, because the weapon function is ultimately different...piercing thrusts vs. heavy slashes... ...though the use was ultimately the same...use the shorter off-hand weapon to either respond defensively to an attack or to probe for/create an opening, then counter/exploit with the main weapon. The reverse idea, which I used a lot but my teachers frowned on a bit, was to use the main weapon to guard, and then rapidly step in with the shorter blade to "knife fighting" ranges for the point. It was less expected and at that range, there was was less time for an effective response...and when you get past a rapier's tip and step "into their guard", it's reaaaaally hard to counter if your off-hand skills aren't as developed (assuming equal loadout of rapier and main gauche/dagger/smallsword/etc). ...since I was one of the few in my fencing class to actually pick up the main gauche as my primary study and even trained single blade with my offhand (Lefties tend to have an advantage in fencing because opponents aren't used to facing them. Minority of the population et all), I was able to pull off the higher risk, higher reward, movements...having long weedy legs to enable me to close the distance quicker may have also been a factor XD Point is, Dual-wielding is fun and rewarding if you work at it, no matter the style. It's a good workout for your brain too, since you have to learn how to track and manipulate both of your hands seperately, simultaenously...especially if they are using different weapons with different functions (like mixing a stick and a knife in Kali or Knife and open-hand or an axe and dirk, etc). You'll definitely be firing off some rarely used neurons that way ;)
I suppose that Nito Kendo S.C. is not part of Niten Ichi Ryu (koruy) school. I can't found any mention about Nito Kendo C.S. as part of lineage of Niten Ichi Ryu, if I'm, wrong, please correct me.
@@BeorninkiChung-sensei is part of Niten Ichi Ryu Musashi Kai which does engage in modern Shinai Kendo. He has a legit lineage and is one hell of a Kendoka.
Honestly the most intimidating thing about that setup is the range. A lot of people don't realize that by holding a sword in one hand you have the ability to extend further in a strike as opposed to two handing a sword of the same length. Sure, he had a height advantage too, but even without that the reach advantage would still be there.
@@KaotikBOOO well historically dual wielding (allbeit rapier and dagger in europe or katana and wakizashi in japan) was strictly used for dueling and not on the battlefield so that isn't really a concern. Hell, in most situations where you would face multiple people at once aka the battlefield, people typically didn't even use swords at all, with the exception of greatswords.
@@KaotikBOOO you aren't wrong though in that judgement though. Contrary to popular belief, more weapons does not equal better at fighting multiple people.
Yeah the ability to wield a weapon with only one hand is a big advantage because with a double grip you leave your body more open to attacks while a single grip allows you to to stand more narrowly. It's similar to boxing stance in a way. The only downside I can see with a single grip stance is you lose a lot of power so against anyone with armor you probably won't be able to break through and you are more acceptable to losing your weapon.
Aside from the sensei's skill I think his height also played a factor. It seemed like when they swapped weapons, the sensei's single sword was above his opponents short sword, so they couldn't effectively use it to break through his guard.
And also, he's holding the long sword at the edge of the handle, when he should be holding it slightly beneath the tsuba (guard). I get that this is a training sword, but still. There's no way you would be able to hold a real katana like that. You'd sprain your wrist at the best.
Wrist strains are not the issue here, but the tsuba is there to protect the hands. Since the hands are not in so much danger from JōgeTachi holding the shinai from the bottom gives mor reach.
@@napatt.7943 The Nito shinai will be 440g minimum regulation weight so I expect 500g in general. The koryū guys at my dojo have shinken that weigh 1kg, they tell me that is typical.
@@Konan69 This is not correct. Musashi held his katana that way as well. Many Japanese sword masters recommended holding it like that while one-handing because the additional reach was so valuable. I agree that it takes an extra level of wrist strength, you just have to work up to it.
Al fin, ya era hora. Cuando empecé en Kenjutsu, tuve un duelo con un tipo que usaba niten ichi ryu, barrió el piso conmigo. A partir de allí he practicado este estilo y a día de hoy (después de 8 años de practica) solo me han derrotado 3 veces, no es un estilo perfecto, pero es de los mejores. Algo que he de destacar, cuando recomiendo este estilo lo hago de forma pasiva, me explico. No lo uso de forma agresiva, defensa-ataque, primero defensa y luego ataque.
That is the most hype training place ever. Reminds me when I loved hearing our black belts go ham from the corner of the room and us blue belts starring at each other wide eyed and grinning before resuming our bouts. Good times. I'm saddened they retired because we lost a lot of the heart of our dojo.
Man, I'm so glad you guys keep posting these videos. I frequently share these with my friends whom I've sparred with for well over a decade and we discuss at length everything we see. It's a great way for us to bond over what brought us together, even though we're so far away. Anyhow, It's also really neat to see this journey happen, and I'm glad our kendoka is learning to calm down. He's always been so excited, and tense from it. He needs more time vs this guy so he can better learn to better see at the speed necessary for his level
The concept of the Filipino Martial Arts "Arnis", "Kali", or "Eskrima" is very much like the double blade of Musashi. As explained by Doug Marcaida, a Filipino Martial Arts expert now based in the US training the US Marines there and also was featured many times in the History Channel especially in their segment "Forged by Fire": The two blades are used both as an offense and defense. When one of the blade is used to parry, the other one will be used to strike the enemy defenseless as both of his hands is holding a sword. Both blades can also be used as offense adding to the blow or as defense. On the other hand, the difference in Musashi's style is the use of one long sword and one short sword while in Arnis, both are used with the same length. But the principle of offense, defense, and counter attack is almost the same.
Again, I think it's awesome that Koreans can proudly practice Japanese martial arts. You hear nasty stories online about angry Korean and Japanese nationalists going at each other's throats over the tiniest of provocations. It's always so wholesome to see a respectful cultural exchange like this. Huge props to Weaponism for always doing an excellent job bringing different cultures together!
Relations between the two countries are always disrupted by aggression, colonization, and poor apology for it. Still, I think it is desirable to learn and exchange cultures with each other because it is a separate area from conflicts caused by history. It will help our relationship in the future.
@@wolfesbane4263 That style is not unique to Hyōhō Niten Ichi-ryū. Just to name the styles I have heard of with nito waza there are: Nito Shinkage-ryū, Yagyū Shinkage-ryū, Yagyū Shingan-ryū, Shingyoto-ryū, Enmei-ryū (Musashi's original school), Araki-ryū, Kashima Shintō-ryū, and Tenshin Shōden Katori Shintō-ryū. Tenshin Shōden Katori Shintō-ryū is very old, and I know that Yagyū Shinkage-ryū and Kashima Shintō-ryū also predate Musashi.
Watching this has inspired me to develop a technique to defeat this fighting style. Pardon me while I kill 2 swallow with 1 sword to practice... I have a lot of swallows that land on my porch for some reason...
I know it's been said here but Sensei Tae-Sun was very composed and wasted very little movement. It was almost as if he was inside his opponents head and knew exactly what was coming and how to defend against it. Thank you for another great video.
Don't forget that Musashi wrote the book Five Elements, which is still used today to study the way of the sword. He also invented a technique where you're supposed to stop the strike. He mastered the ability and was said to be able to split a grain on top of someone's head. There is a name for this technique, which I do not recall.
*I trained Kenjutsu with Kishikawa Sensei at Niten Institute.* (Kenjutsu is classic Kendo, it's samurai art in its purest form). I still have my Kenjutsu training material, I will never forget the thrill of training *niten ichi ryu.* *Thank you Kishikawa Sensei, until the end of my life I will remember these moments.*
Musashi was a superb artist and poet as well as being the Sensei of using two swords - or 'open on all 8 sides' as he called it. In the last years of his life, he even fought without any sword, using an oar on one occasion to batter his opponent and using a long blade of grass another time, touching his opponent with it enough times to convince him that, if Musashi had had a sword, he would be in pieces by now.
Honestly as a practitioner of japanese swordsmanship I find the idea of fighting someone using dual blades in an duel as a little intimidating and exciting, they not only have a long reaching blade which can extend it's range farther then a two handed single sword can but a short quick blade for when they close in and they can simultaneously attack and defend or defend and counter attack so easily. And what they lack in the raw power they make up in having an extra blade you need to watch out for and more speed and reach. It'd be a good challenge, nice video.
With the right mindset you will defeat such an opponent. Right now you are only thinking about what your opponent can do when you need to be planning what you are doing about it. They have a long blade? Strike it out of the way and step inside its reach. They have a short blade that's too fast for you? Circle towards the longer blade so the shorter blade is behind it and can't hope to reach you. Get yourself a chessboard and play a hundred games. You will learn how to think two or three moves ahead. Jumping at people hoping to hit them first only works in Olympic fencing.
@@joebloggs5318 2-3 moves ahead is below 1000 elo in chess. no it doesn't work in olympic fencing. And neither does your strategy against a live opponent with 2 swords.
Other than being an absolute crazy unit of a man, this is probably how he won so much. Most people probably weren't expecting simultaneous defense and attack like this and they never knew which blade was going to come at them
His movements are so intimidating! Everything is so slow and effortless, until he explosed in speed with a small movement. He walks like a horror film-villain, with slow and calculated steps! It's insane! MASSIVE RESPECT FOR THAT GUY!
I like how it's kind of like boxing. the weaker arm with the shorter sword is in front and used for quick strikes, probing and parrying and the stronger arm with the longer sword is behind to have the distance to get more leverage and power when he gets an opening. like how a boxer uses jabs and right hooks
The key here is that with dual blades, both weapon can collide and obstruct each other, so opponents of them are not used to thinking about the range of movements or flanking the dual blade user or wearing him out. I guess in a way, a swordsman has to think about both himself and his opponents, not merely one or the other, or you will be taken advantage of. The single bladed swordsman would have to use his whole body carefully to beat a dual-swordsman, because the moment opportunity arises for either side is when the blade clashes with one another. Do people when they swing a weapon, think about moving or twisting their body in a way to anticipate future movements? This is where 'martial arts' comes in, rather than the art of the sword. The stronger, faster, and smarter body is what determines if they can make use of their tools the best.
Always intrigued how it'll look when musashi said to walk like you do in everyday life in a battle. I always thought musashi would walk in a weird way lol turns out it's similar to the kyokushin karate doom march. Great stuff
Both arms need to be trained a lot in two sword style, because a two handed sword can cut more than a one handed sword and coordination matters a lot. The magnificent work of both his arms was special in Miyamoto musashi and his practice was different (mainly introspection), I guess. Btw I have read vagabond, It's amazing.
After seeing Sensei who is devoted to Musashi's way of the sword, his swordmanship doesnt have a clear weakness except long range weapon like Spears. I see why he was able to live to tell the tale.
@@joebloggs5318 attack them by surprise while they are distracted or fighting someone else, fight them from afar and stand atop a fortification of sorts was historically very popular.
That Sensei is OP as hell. He barely moved and dodged so clean. Even with a single sword he blocked and struck efficiently as hell. I'm not an expert but I figure that more experienced Master Swordsmen think fast as hell, are patient, wait for the others to make a move, and counter quickly in the most efficient way possible. No wonder Musashi was invincible in his time, dual wielding maxed out defense and offense.
A curious fact is that Musashi Miyamoto based his double sword style on the famous Spanish Tercios and on his art with the Rapier Sword called Verdadera Destreza, due to the cultural exchange between the Spanish and the Portuguese with the Japanese people, so our ties have been very close since centuries ago!
Another good video. Niten Ichi Ryu is an amazing style & really worth studying. I saw an instructor over a decade ago in the Nishi Ward, Osaka Japan. He was training with 2 Wakizashi & still had his katana on his side. So I asked him why do you train with 2 short swords in both hands & not use your main sword like Niten Ichi Ryu. He responded with if I lose one or both I can always pull my main weapon so that's why I don't train in the traditional way. Has anyone else encountered a person that trains like that having 3 swords on them at the same time.
@@Ianmar1 I'm not talking about the style of training. I'm talking about someone training or carrying with 3 swords. A Katana & Wakizashi on your left hip like normal & another Wakizashi on your right hip.
@@-RONNIE That just made me think, when and where did they carry the Tanto? Did they carry the Tanto instead of a wakazashi? Or I've read that the merchant class could carry wakazashi and shorter blades. So maybe the merchant class carried wakazashi and tanto as their pair of swords. I'm just thinking out loud. I'll Google it.
@@brianwilson4861 well the tanto was just a simple dagger like a field knife for samurai, merchants & even women. Only samurai could carry 2 swords but the most important weapon was the katana & they were the only one that could carry them. Merchants could carry to 2 short swords or 1 wakazashi & tanto even any other weapon. The only thing is the working class could never even touch a katana.
In old chinese book, i think i read someone using 1 spear and twinblade. His main is spear if he lose it he still have twin blade. And europe archer with double dagger for finishing their victim
Miyamoto Musashi said to keep the same spirit always. The calm demeanor I can only imagine to be reminiscent of how Musashi conducted himself. It is a practice of the art of not doing, allowing a calm spirit to trust in the natural intelligence of our body.
You could tell the small blade was hypnotizing dude to me it felt and looked like he was using it like an angler fish moving and leading him with small movements before the strike.
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Man, dual blade guy just moved away his head from thrust with 500% confidence is truly insane.
that shit happens everyday at a boxing gym when a jab is thrown lol
@@alter5057 yeah, there's a few similarities with boxing, also parrying
@@zetta1200 seems like
I wonder which came first. Do you think before people began practicing martial arts with weapons, there was some kind of fist fighting technique out there?
@@valek8331 People have been punching each other since the dawn of time- same as wrestling, it's just a systematic approach to what we do naturally to begin with.
The most impressive part about this was his patience. I'm going to sound like a total weeb saying this, but he had absolutely zero wasted movements, and his sense of timing was incredible. It was mesmerizing watching him!
@KungFu_Andrew_ChangMooKwan You're absolutely right, but I was talking about the way I described it. I've seen a lot of sports and action anime use that description a lot that I've come to associate it more with anime than reality.
kendo actually derived from an actual sword art that focuses on zero useless movements.
so kendo is pretty much a straight line, but nito ryu is like the same
execpt its 2 lines and you do not know what direction those lines go.
unfortunately, Musashi himself was not so patient & believed in a busy lead-sword & in being the first to make contact.
@KungFu_Andrew_ChangMooKwan the internet is kinda shithole totally agree lol
That's why that style is the best. It was literally cutting all the fat off the martial art and only leaving the self defense.
You can tell someone is a true sword master by how much they DONT move lol. So many practitioner's move way too quickly even though it can be beneficial, but when you can dodge and simply outpace a technique by just waiting patiently. His precision, reach, technique, and power this is a scary man lol.
Read this comment before watching. Wow, I see what you mean. I don't really know anything about weapon based martial arts but it's not difficult to see this guy was definitely skilled. This was one of the better sparring sessions.
@@rodjjt7742 A true master he moves and acts like one.
Very true, and it applies to all martial arts. Always much more impressive when a boxer slips a punch by a millimeter or less.
That goddamn dodge at 2:03
Ya but he is totally cheating by holding the long sword at end of the guard, there is no way that he could make a successful cut that way unless he has ridiculous wrist development which i doubt is the case.
1) Musashi's blades were notably thin & short. Musashi was unusually tall & his blades were those commonly used by people of smaller stature. Back then, people got fitted for swords like apparel. His swords were several sizes too small, so to speak. 2) Musashi believed in a very busy lead-sword approach where being the first to initiate contact was essential. jabbing the opponent in the cheek with the tip of his lead blade was a favorite technique of his, similar to a jab in boxing. 3) Musashi was fond of using wooden weapons against live blades in duels to the death: this is crazy & downright absurd, but true. Musashi realized he could kill with a single blow no matter if he had wooden weapons or steel ones & wooden weapons were much lighter & cheaper. this guy fought the best swordsmen of his day to the death using a bokken or two & never lost. 4) Musashi was on the losing end of two wars & believed the spear to be the most effective weapon overall. there is no documentation of Musashi using a spear in a duel, nor are there any accounts of his accomplishments with a spear in combat, but he did say the spear was the ultimate combat weapon & he's the best fencer Japan produced, so...
Yeah, the Yari, spear was the primary weapon, then katanas, and tantos, although having watched some modern full speed fights with mock weapons transitioning from the spear to the tanto knife in close or on the ground or even taking your opponents tanto and finishing them on the ground seems most common
Imagine his reaction if he was able to seen the pike formation of the Spanish Empire
@@yagami1134 or wing hussar charge, he gonna wet his pant from amusement
Makes sense that his blades were shorter and thinner. A fitted sword would probably be too heavy to wield around based on his style.
@@yagami1134 He wouldn't react much since it would probably be similar to what Japan has done with their Yari and arquebus formations.
The swordsman barely moved, but once he attacked, he almost always hit the target. I am really impressed.
True enough. I really like how he held his attacking sword by the very end of the hilt. I don't know if that sort of grip would work with live steel, but it did give him maximum reach over his opponent.
Maybe it was helped by the opposing swordsman who made very little lateral movements throughout. He didn't need to constantly adjust his angle of attacks.
I didn't mean to write this but half way it felt like a waste to delete my comment
I mean that's how you really fight with giant swords you don't really move unless you want to die ,since balance is the most important thing when fighting with large objects that involve clashing against each other if counterd.
Because if you move to much it make you a easy target because now your readable as f since you can only strike from a limited set of move when moving with full precision compared to when you are standing still you can just move ⬆️↗️➡️↘️⬇️↙️⬅️↖️ and land a perfect hit because you prioritized precision and balance .
It almost like and sport that involves shooting a ball you get the most precision when you stop running for a second to fix your balance for that perfectly fast and precise strike.
Hardly difficult, the other person had next to no training.
Read the Book of Five Rings and I have to say the amount of detail and wisdom Musashi poured into those scrolls is profound. And besides all the practical weapon based knowledge, there's also some nice philosophical pieces added that can be applied to life outside of the skills in dual wielding blades he teaches. It made me happy to see it on display here on a brilliant channel like this that's starting to gain momentum and rightfully so!
Then you should know that Musashi would most probably disliked such a wrong way (Kendo style) as shown in the video. With all respect to the practicioners of “Musashi style” influence of modern Kendo in his (their) fighting too big. But this all can be just my opinion.
@@michaldante9797 no you do make a good point and I won't ever give you grief for expressing your opinion😁. There is likely differences here from.what Musashi himself would have taught but it is quite something when a sword style written about so many years ago is still talked about amd practiced with so much love and dedication by those that wish to learn it!😁
@@michaldante9797 Back then to train in the sword was to kill which I believe he states in the scrolls the way of the sword is death. So yeah a point system like we use now a days he would not like because it's not realistic or helpful in actual combat.
There's some good jokes in it too; he was in his 60s when he wrote it, and no old dude can resist puns
I always say you get Musashi if you mix oda nobunaga and socrates in equal amounts
Thanks for making a great video. But my name is not jeong taesun, my name is chung taesun.)))
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Chung Taesun sensei, was this nito no kamae kendo in this video? The subtitles indicate that it is Niten ichi-ryu. Do you also study koryu?
@@Ianmar1 of course studying nitenichiryu koryu kata. I did kamae In video is have kamae in koryu nitenchiryu kata .
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@@koreanitokensi Chung Taedun sensei, could you please tell me what type specific style you practice for Nitoryu, I've never practice kendo before but i would like to know about the art of Musashi
@2:03 I can’t believe that this wasn’t pre arranged. The timing, the ease of movement, the elegance
2:03 damn that was an amazing dodge and punish.
anime moment that XD
He was like: "Too slow" *BANG*
Dude think this is tekken with that "punish"
Really punish line from a certain programmer
@@jkphilosophy it's faster to say 'punish' than 'counterattack'
The sensei is literally that OP anime swordsman that MC trying to surpass for his whole life
That slight dodge just after 2 minutes definitely looked like a scene out of bleach.
Great to see an English version reaching out worldwide! Thank you WEAPONISM for introducing our Nitenichiryu Nito Kendo S.C. with Master Chung Tae-Sun, a qualified member of Nitenichiryu Musashikai.
The English subtitles sold me on subscribing. I tried kendo for a bit, and would love to try this style out someday.
Please have more Musashikai guests on the channel 🙏
A lot of the Nitennichiryu movements and stances look similar to the Kali forms I used to study.
...which makes sense, dual-wielding sticks/blades is a core component of Kali, so they're working from similar biomechanics.
Leading with the short blade in the ready stance, also reminds me of some of the forms in fencing when using a main gauche...only we didn't have the rapier raised up in high guard like this Sensei, because the weapon function is ultimately different...piercing thrusts vs. heavy slashes...
...though the use was ultimately the same...use the shorter off-hand weapon to either respond defensively to an attack or to probe for/create an opening, then counter/exploit with the main weapon.
The reverse idea, which I used a lot but my teachers frowned on a bit, was to use the main weapon to guard, and then rapidly step in with the shorter blade to "knife fighting" ranges for the point. It was less expected and at that range, there was was less time for an effective response...and when you get past a rapier's tip and step "into their guard", it's reaaaaally hard to counter if your off-hand skills aren't as developed (assuming equal loadout of rapier and main gauche/dagger/smallsword/etc).
...since I was one of the few in my fencing class to actually pick up the main gauche as my primary study and even trained single blade with my offhand (Lefties tend to have an advantage in fencing because opponents aren't used to facing them. Minority of the population et all), I was able to pull off the higher risk, higher reward, movements...having long weedy legs to enable me to close the distance quicker may have also been a factor XD
Point is, Dual-wielding is fun and rewarding if you work at it, no matter the style. It's a good workout for your brain too, since you have to learn how to track and manipulate both of your hands seperately, simultaenously...especially if they are using different weapons with different functions (like mixing a stick and a knife in Kali or Knife and open-hand or an axe and dirk, etc). You'll definitely be firing off some rarely used neurons that way ;)
I suppose that Nito Kendo S.C. is not part of Niten Ichi Ryu (koruy) school. I can't found any mention about Nito Kendo C.S. as part of lineage of Niten Ichi Ryu, if I'm, wrong, please correct me.
@@BeorninkiChung-sensei is part of Niten Ichi Ryu Musashi Kai which does engage in modern Shinai Kendo. He has a legit lineage and is one hell of a Kendoka.
Honestly the most intimidating thing about that setup is the range. A lot of people don't realize that by holding a sword in one hand you have the ability to extend further in a strike as opposed to two handing a sword of the same length. Sure, he had a height advantage too, but even without that the reach advantage would still be there.
And the speed, gravity is working for him 😄
But you're also way easier to disarm and weaker against more than one opponent
@@KaotikBOOO well historically dual wielding (allbeit rapier and dagger in europe or katana and wakizashi in japan) was strictly used for dueling and not on the battlefield so that isn't really a concern. Hell, in most situations where you would face multiple people at once aka the battlefield, people typically didn't even use swords at all, with the exception of greatswords.
@@KaotikBOOO you aren't wrong though in that judgement though. Contrary to popular belief, more weapons does not equal better at fighting multiple people.
Yeah the ability to wield a weapon with only one hand is a big advantage because with a double grip you leave your body more open to attacks while a single grip allows you to to stand more narrowly. It's similar to boxing stance in a way. The only downside I can see with a single grip stance is you lose a lot of power so against anyone with armor you probably won't be able to break through and you are more acceptable to losing your weapon.
2:03 wow his timing is insanely accurate
Awesome seeing Weaponism's growing popularity. Very well deserved!
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2:03 what the actual fuck. That was incredible.
私は日本人なので韓国語は分かりませんが、韓国人が起源を主張せずに純粋に日本の武道として受け入れてくれるのはとても嬉しいです！
あなた方のような人が増えたら嬉しいです！本当にありがとう！
Aside from the sensei's skill I think his height also played a factor. It seemed like when they swapped weapons, the sensei's single sword was above his opponents short sword, so they couldn't effectively use it to break through his guard.
And also, he's holding the long sword at the edge of the handle, when he should be holding it slightly beneath the tsuba (guard). I get that this is a training sword, but still. There's no way you would be able to hold a real katana like that. You'd sprain your wrist at the best.
Wrist strains are not the issue here, but the tsuba is there to protect the hands. Since the hands are not in so much danger from JōgeTachi holding the shinai from the bottom gives mor reach.
@@Konan69 aren't those wooden swords almost the same weight as the real ones?
@@napatt.7943 The Nito shinai will be 440g minimum regulation weight so I expect 500g in general. The koryū guys at my dojo have shinken that weigh 1kg, they tell me that is typical.
@@Konan69 This is not correct. Musashi held his katana that way as well. Many Japanese sword masters recommended holding it like that while one-handing because the additional reach was so valuable. I agree that it takes an extra level of wrist strength, you just have to work up to it.
Finally with eng subtitles! Chung-sensei is a beast. I did keiko with him when I was taking a grade examination in Musashi Kai.
Al fin, ya era hora.
Cuando empecé en Kenjutsu, tuve un duelo con un tipo que usaba niten ichi ryu, barrió el piso conmigo. A partir de allí he practicado este estilo y a día de hoy (después de 8 años de practica) solo me han derrotado 3 veces, no es un estilo perfecto, pero es de los mejores.
Algo que he de destacar, cuando recomiendo este estilo lo hago de forma pasiva, me explico. No lo uso de forma agresiva, defensa-ataque, primero defensa y luego ataque.
this senseis calmness is on another level
That is the most hype training place ever. Reminds me when I loved hearing our black belts go ham from the corner of the room and us blue belts starring at each other wide eyed and grinning before resuming our bouts. Good times. I'm saddened they retired because we lost a lot of the heart of our dojo.
Dual sword is incredibly popular in pop culture, was fascinating to see someone truly skilled in it.
I've been reading Vagabond so this was extra great!
Man, I'm so glad you guys keep posting these videos. I frequently share these with my friends whom I've sparred with for well over a decade and we discuss at length everything we see. It's a great way for us to bond over what brought us together, even though we're so far away.
Anyhow, It's also really neat to see this journey happen, and I'm glad our kendoka is learning to calm down. He's always been so excited, and tense from it. He needs more time vs this guy so he can better learn to better see at the speed necessary for his level
Your channel is so awesome and much needed for the martial arts community
Love the "Yaaayi" sound when someone gets hit
The concept of the Filipino Martial Arts "Arnis", "Kali", or "Eskrima" is very much like the double blade of Musashi.
As explained by Doug Marcaida, a Filipino Martial Arts expert now based in the US training the US Marines there and also was featured many times in the History Channel especially in their segment "Forged by Fire":
The two blades are used both as an offense and defense. When one of the blade is used to parry, the other one will be used to strike the enemy defenseless as both of his hands is holding a sword.
Both blades can also be used as offense adding to the blow or as defense.
On the other hand, the difference in Musashi's style is the use of one long sword and one short sword while in Arnis, both are used with the same length.
But the principle of offense, defense, and counter attack is almost the same.
I'm glad someone brought up Filipino Martial Arts!
That's all I gotta say, Lol
Again, I think it's awesome that Koreans can proudly practice Japanese martial arts. You hear nasty stories online about angry Korean and Japanese nationalists going at each other's throats over the tiniest of provocations. It's always so wholesome to see a respectful cultural exchange like this. Huge props to Weaponism for always doing an excellent job bringing different cultures together!
Relations between the two countries are always disrupted by aggression, colonization, and poor apology for it. Still, I think it is desirable to learn and exchange cultures with each other because it is a separate area from conflicts caused by history. It will help our relationship in the future.
That slip of the stab he did was immaculate
Ayyyy thanks for fulfilling my wish! Really wanted to see the excellence of Niten Ichi Ryu
Is this Niten Ichi-ryū? It looks like kendo.
@@Ianmar1 the dual weilding style with the wakizashi on the left hand and the uchikatana on the right is Niten Ichi ryu
@@wolfesbane4263 That style is not unique to Hyōhō Niten Ichi-ryū.
Just to name the styles I have heard of with nito waza there are: Nito Shinkage-ryū, Yagyū Shinkage-ryū, Yagyū Shingan-ryū, Shingyoto-ryū, Enmei-ryū (Musashi's original school), Araki-ryū, Kashima Shintō-ryū, and Tenshin Shōden Katori Shintō-ryū.
Tenshin Shōden Katori Shintō-ryū is very old, and I know that Yagyū Shinkage-ryū and Kashima Shintō-ryū also predate Musashi.
@@Ianmar1 ohh, good to know. thanks
@@wolfesbane4263 Chung-sensei responded to me under the pinned comment. He does study Niten ichi-ryū.
Miyamoto Musashi written by Eiji Yoshikawa is a great read. So seeing this is awesome. 😎🇦🇺
Thank you.
You guys know how to have fun. Keep doing what makes you happy. People dig it
Watching this has inspired me to develop a technique to defeat this fighting style. Pardon me while I kill 2 swallow with 1 sword to practice...
I have a lot of swallows that land on my porch for some reason...
2:34 He actually used one of musashi's techiques here, the "attack in two timing" thing.
This man has the energy of a Souls' boss
Again, such a great display of skill and art, thank you!
I know it's been said here but Sensei Tae-Sun was very composed and wasted very little movement. It was almost as if he was inside his opponents head and knew exactly what was coming and how to defend against it. Thank you for another great video.
Don't forget that Musashi wrote the book Five Elements, which is still used today to study the way of the sword. He also invented a technique where you're supposed to stop the strike. He mastered the ability and was said to be able to split a grain on top of someone's head. There is a name for this technique, which I do not recall.
*I trained Kenjutsu with Kishikawa Sensei at Niten Institute.* (Kenjutsu is classic Kendo, it's samurai art in its purest form).
I still have my Kenjutsu training material, I will never forget the thrill of training *niten ichi ryu.* *Thank you Kishikawa Sensei, until the end of my life I will remember these moments.*
Musashi was a superb artist and poet as well as being the Sensei of using two swords - or 'open on all 8 sides' as he called it. In the last years of his life, he even fought without any sword, using an oar on one occasion to batter his opponent and using a long blade of grass another time, touching his opponent with it enough times to convince him that, if Musashi had had a sword, he would be in pieces by now.
You forgot to mention he cut the sun in half with his inner energy.
Honestly as a practitioner of japanese swordsmanship I find the idea of fighting someone using dual blades in an duel as a little intimidating and exciting, they not only have a long reaching blade which can extend it's range farther then a two handed single sword can but a short quick blade for when they close in and they can simultaneously attack and defend or defend and counter attack so easily. And what they lack in the raw power they make up in having an extra blade you need to watch out for and more speed and reach.
It'd be a good challenge, nice video.
With the right mindset you will defeat such an opponent. Right now you are only thinking about what your opponent can do when you need to be planning what you are doing about it. They have a long blade? Strike it out of the way and step inside its reach. They have a short blade that's too fast for you? Circle towards the longer blade so the shorter blade is behind it and can't hope to reach you. Get yourself a chessboard and play a hundred games. You will learn how to think two or three moves ahead. Jumping at people hoping to hit them first only works in Olympic fencing.
@@joebloggs5318 2-3 moves ahead is below 1000 elo in chess.
no it doesn't work in olympic fencing.
And neither does your strategy against a live opponent with 2 swords.
This dude walks at you like a dark souls boss, that is terrifying
I still think nothing beats this channel on showing different weapon martial arts challenging fighting each other.
Nahhhh the dodge at 2:05 was so clean 🔥🔥🔥
Dual blades = parry and attack in one motion. I like :)
It's an exciting video. The dual blades of Musashi Miyamoto are a rare style among the samurai.
日本の文化を好きになってくれてありがとうございます！Thank you for loving Japanese culture! I am also a martial arts expert, but it is wonderful!
ありがとうございます
Other than being an absolute crazy unit of a man, this is probably how he won so much. Most people probably weren't expecting simultaneous defense and attack like this and they never knew which blade was going to come at them
2:05 Nani!?!? Is That... Ultra Instinct !
His movements are so intimidating! Everything is so slow and effortless, until he explosed in speed with a small movement. He walks like a horror film-villain, with slow and calculated steps! It's insane! MASSIVE RESPECT FOR THAT GUY!
2:04 dang that was slick ngl
i feel like im watching national geographic the guy in white is like a wild animal
二刀流かっこいいです👏👏
2:03 that dodge though 😳
I like how it's kind of like boxing. the weaker arm with the shorter sword is in front and used for quick strikes, probing and parrying and the stronger arm with the longer sword is behind to have the distance to get more leverage and power when he gets an opening. like how a boxer uses jabs and right hooks
Great economy of movement.
Exelent editing
Wonderfull fun
Japon kendo the best
1:23 the way he just approaches menacingly...
The key here is that with dual blades, both weapon can collide and obstruct each other, so opponents of them are not used to thinking about the range of movements or flanking the dual blade user or wearing him out. I guess in a way, a swordsman has to think about both himself and his opponents, not merely one or the other, or you will be taken advantage of.
The single bladed swordsman would have to use his whole body carefully to beat a dual-swordsman, because the moment opportunity arises for either side is when the blade clashes with one another. Do people when they swing a weapon, think about moving or twisting their body in a way to anticipate future movements? This is where 'martial arts' comes in, rather than the art of the sword. The stronger, faster, and smarter body is what determines if they can make use of their tools the best.
Always intrigued how it'll look when musashi said to walk like you do in everyday life in a battle. I always thought musashi would walk in a weird way lol turns out it's similar to the kyokushin karate doom march. Great stuff
Both arms need to be trained a lot in two sword style, because a two handed sword can cut more than a one handed sword and coordination matters a lot.
The magnificent work of both his arms was special in Miyamoto musashi and his practice was different (mainly introspection), I guess.
Btw I have read vagabond, It's amazing.
Musashi is one of the most legendary swordsmen in the world. I'm glad to see that his legacy lives on!
That face thrust dodge *chefs kiss*
Miyamoto MUSASHI is 'Japanese SAMURAI'！ Why the Japanese flag should also be raised？
there is something scary about seeing an asian with two swords coming at you with a smile.
After seeing Sensei who is devoted to Musashi's way of the sword, his swordmanship doesnt have a clear weakness except long range weapon like Spears. I see why he was able to live to tell the tale.
There are plenty of ways to counter longer weapons. Stepping offline, grabbing them, in a pinch you could even throw a weapon of your own.
@@joebloggs5318 attack them by surprise while they are distracted or fighting someone else, fight them from afar and stand atop a fortification of sorts was historically very popular.
That Sensei is OP as hell. He barely moved and dodged so clean. Even with a single sword he blocked and struck efficiently as hell. I'm not an expert but I figure that more experienced Master Swordsmen think fast as hell, are patient, wait for the others to make a move, and counter quickly in the most efficient way possible. No wonder Musashi was invincible in his time, dual wielding maxed out defense and offense.
This looks like a Dark Souls fight.
Какой умелый мужик! Моё почтение вашему гостю
2:04 that was smooth af 🔥
Very beautiful video I appreciate your hard work
A curious fact is that Musashi Miyamoto based his double sword style on the famous Spanish Tercios and on his art with the Rapier Sword called Verdadera Destreza, due to the cultural exchange between the Spanish and the Portuguese with the Japanese people, so our ties have been very close since centuries ago!
Live action FGO
0:00 I didn’t know she was chill like that
The fucking head dodge and punish was downright disrespectful on his opponent lmaooooo. Cold asf
2:04 when video game boss dodge
Man, that's one scary dude.
2:05 it was at this moment, that I realized how much of sheer badassery went into this video.
Next
Ganryu style with nodachi
Another good video. Niten Ichi Ryu is an amazing style & really worth studying. I saw an instructor over a decade ago in the Nishi Ward, Osaka Japan. He was training with 2 Wakizashi & still had his katana on his side. So I asked him why do you train with 2 short swords in both hands & not use your main sword like Niten Ichi Ryu. He responded with if I lose one or both I can always pull my main weapon so that's why I don't train in the traditional way. Has anyone else encountered a person that trains like that having 3 swords on them at the same time.
I think that Yagyū Shingan-ryū have double kodachi kata.
@@Ianmar1 I'm not talking about the style of training. I'm talking about someone training or carrying with 3 swords. A Katana & Wakizashi on your left hip like normal & another Wakizashi on your right hip.
@@-RONNIE That just made me think, when and where did they carry the Tanto? Did they carry the Tanto instead of a wakazashi? Or I've read that the merchant class could carry wakazashi and shorter blades. So maybe the merchant class carried wakazashi and tanto as their pair of swords. I'm just thinking out loud. I'll Google it.
@@brianwilson4861 well the tanto was just a simple dagger like a field knife for samurai, merchants & even women. Only samurai could carry 2 swords but the most important weapon was the katana & they were the only one that could carry them. Merchants could carry to 2 short swords or 1 wakazashi & tanto even any other weapon. The only thing is the working class could never even touch a katana.
In old chinese book, i think i read someone using 1 spear and twinblade. His main is spear if he lose it he still have twin blade. And europe archer with double dagger for finishing their victim
Miyamoto Musashi said to keep the same spirit always. The calm demeanor I can only imagine to be reminiscent of how Musashi conducted himself. It is a practice of the art of not doing, allowing a calm spirit to trust in the natural intelligence of our body.
In case of Miyamoto Musashi I think "the same spirit" means "always young, always drunken" xD
The saito end handle hold is smart. Hides the range.
宮本武蔵かな？
バガボンド読んだのは分かるけど、二天一流とか言わない方がいいんじゃないかな？
あと、血のエフェクトは鬱陶しい…
バガボンドが広まってくれている事に感動
You could tell the small blade was hypnotizing dude to me it felt and looked like he was using it like an angler fish moving and leading him with small movements before the strike.
宮本武蔵？
Anyone know where I can see the full match at 0:54 ?
awesome video,i love nito ryu, i miss kendo so much
You will can do !! Just try!!
Top Gun: It's not the airplane, it's the pilot inside.
Dual Blades Master: It's not the sword, it's the user.
Us commoners: ಠ_ಠಠ_ಠ
I wanna see you use giant scissors against kendo and other weapons.
When the wind is slow and the fire's hot the vulture waits to see what rots
又一個乩童🤣
the man with the dual blade has lightning reflexes :0
Man, just the way this dude approaches so slowly and so meticulously. Like some final boss you can't stun.
I love Japanese culture(*ˊᵕˋ*)੭ ੈ❤︎
cultural appropriation
That head slip at 2:05 made me actually go "OOOHHHH!!!!".
Real life ain't anime. Two three moves and the winner was clearly standing.
if there is a musashi kendo style video, then why not a sasaki kojiro style video?
Nitō-no-kamae is officially part of kendo. The nodachi is not.
@@Ianmar1 neither is the sanjiegun (sansetsukon) but they did a video on it.