Don't forget the new cordless drill you knocked off the benchtop that landed perfectly on a piece of 6" steel I Beam that cracked the case open beyond repair, and the expensive dinner you had to buy for the misses cause, the epoxy you mixed tipped over and dripped on a piece of scrap, I mean, a hand carved bowl her father made.......so you could save a few bucks on a simple jig......
Here's a little tip. You may wish to relieve your deep drilling a few times (back the bit out) instead trying to horse the bit all the way through in one stroke. Minimizes tear out, and your bit won't dull so quickly. (Retired machinist)
Also, drill speed and down pressure are important to keep in mind. Learning to sharpen bits on a bench grinder saves lots of money. Back cuts were hardest to learn for me personally. (Retired welder who worked many years in machine shops)
Yes, good advice, that should be a no-brainer. Otherwise, the drill flutes become clogged and there will eventually be nowhere for the cut material to go. It packs together causing friction and heat.
These DIY videos are great. I'm going to go buy a Kreg jig and make my own jig today! I'm l about saving money on overpriced tools. If you have a video of how to make a drill using a drill, I'll be all set.
I love DIY videos but for the layman like me it would be more expensive to buy all his tools to make the kreg jig than it would be just to buy a kreg jig.
It depends on your hourly rate. Their jig doesn't cost me as much as the time to make one would and many others likely are in a similar situation. It is a nice custom jig though. 👍
For sure. Probably not as good or precise as the original but still worth more because custom and beautiful. A beautiful tool that feels good to use is always better.
And I do believe he spent more on the epoxy and pipe than what the Kreg jig cost. Oh, and you still need to buy the drill bit. If you wanna waste money, time, and brain cells then this is your guy.
I bought a Kreg jig kit years ago and I love it. It is very well designed and a lot of thought obviously went into the initial development. My only regret is that I didn't think of it first (lol). My background is in tool and die and I must say that the Kreg company has some really good talent.
Their engineering is excellent, but definitely built to a price point. As for me, personally, I’d gladly pay a little more for more rigid materials, in their saw guides ! But the drill jigs are perfectly satisfactory in my experience.
If you don't want to have a jig to start with, the incline is 15 degrees. :) Other improvements might be to instead using the pipe, use drill bushings, which are hardened on the inside for this purpose. Drill press if you have one, even a small one, will make getting the 15 degree angles easy.
It actually wears very little on the bushings. I made a plastic one with copper inserts and there was so little wear in use that when I printed one for thinner wood, I didn't even bother with the bushings.
@@johnprimerano534 Not everyone can afford the higher prices for all these jigs and this young Man took the time to tell us exactly HOW to make our OWN! Overall it may cost the same but the parts don't have to be bought all at one time. Why not Leave a LINK for some of YOUR Ideas John? ...
"If you have access to a pocket hole jig, you can build this non-adjustable jig for half the cost of a commercial one, but without the drill bit or any other extras the commercial one would come with, which will cost you the difference, anyway." Yeah, I don't think Kreg wants to ban this video. You're generating new customers for them. 😉 There are useful techniques to learn from this, of course, and if you needed a spare temporary jig for some reason in a pinch and had the materials to make it, sure. And it's good to remember that you can and should make most of the jigs you need. But really, just buy an off-brand pocket hole jig or wait for a sale. Ditto for a dowel jig -- the commercial ones are going to have features for usability and precision that are going to be worth a few bucks more.
Gluing something tacky to the bottom, grippy rubber, 200+ grit sandpaper, etc is a useful addition. A depth setting end cap works well too if you only use that particular jig for a certain width of material and have more for others . If you use pocket holes a lot, specifically in one type of lumber you may want to build a stationary pocket hole station with a dedicated drill.
My jig was MIA in a stack of moving boxes... I was making new cabinet frames for a laundry area, and decided to take a chance on a Harbor Freight version (I know), hoping it would at least last the duration of my project... I bought the full sized jig (not the pocket jig) and I was Blown away! This thing is beautifully machined from aluminum with steel (possibly stainless) inserts, it's fully adjustable, it clamps your stock securely in place for you, it's bench (or board) mountable, it's every bit as accurate as my Kreg, offers multiple angles for varying board thicknesses and is IMO easier to adjust than the Kreg. I've made custom face frames and paneled doors for the entire home, including living room built-ins.... All out of hard Maple and some Oak, along with various other projects. This jig is still as good as day#1 (4 years ago), with the exception of having to buy a bit before about a year ago. I was going to link the item here and to my surprise, (possibly due to recent tariffs or supply chain issues), H.F. has raised the price DRAMATICALLY from what I paid a few years back... But given the choice, I'd STILL opt for the HF aluminum TOOL over Kreg's overpriced injection molded plastic block. Yeah, I'm going to make a pocket version in cherry, just because... But if you're going to buy one. Check out HF... I won't judge you. ;-)
@@the_car_guy5915 - Let's not get carried away😂... HF can save you in a pinch, maybe let you grab a tool that you don't use often, and sometimes lure you into buying that tool that you wish you hadn't... But they DO have some hidden gems within the rows of shiny disposable stuff... Add the 20% discount coupon or even better yet, the driveway sales, and you'd need to be a real tool snob to not give their versions a try. I've had great luck with their floor jacks, shop presses, and the bar clamps are an absolute NO-BRAINER at that price when you need 10 or 20 of them... At the same time, I've nearly bled-out at my rural property due to a shattered Chinese cut-off wheel... Upon testing two of the remaining wheels (upon the removal of my stitches), I'll just say "be careful" with what you buy. Usually you get EXACTLY what you pay for... But sometimes you really do find a winner.😉
I've been a carpenter for 40 yrs, and I appreciate all the company's like Kreg that make great products for us. Good for them if they made a lot of money they deserve it. I've made a lot of great jigs over the years thanks to the help of experienced carpenters who pass them along. I'm not much for recreating what is already available by great companies like Kreg. I like to use their products to create great things. No offense by any means...
Yeah, I kinda feel the same way. A basic Kreg pocket hole jig only costs $30. $30 doesn't even cover your time and materials to make this. And after all that it's only set up for 1 by material rather than the adjustable feature for other board thicknesses the Kreg jig offers. I sincerely doubt Kreg wasting any time worrying about trying to ban your video bro...just sayin.
If you've been a carpenter for 40 yrs and started using pocket holes... what went wrong? Obviously using a rabbet or dovetail, dowel joint, or even just a simple glue up is going to be more reliable and stronger then a flimsy pocket joint. I can't imagine that you don't already know by now how to make them after 40 years unless you're just a framer. Why switch to pocket holes? Any seasoned carpenter unless he is shilling a video on youtube would scoff at the sight of a pocket hole jig. Weakest joint imo.
@@paulweston8184 1st. After 40 years he knows something you obviously haven't learned. "Right connection for the project at hand." Your opinion is that they are the weakest type of connection. And if you dont use them correctly, they are. Find 'Stumpy Nubs' and '731 Woodworking' here on RUclips. There is a best use scenario for every type of connection. Learn that and maybe you won't be so offensive to a 40 year woodworking veteran.
oh gosh this brings back memories. I made my third pocket hole jig in a similar way, truth be told, I made my second pocket hole jig like this. My third one I made using the second one. The first one is still my favourite though, I like the way it works better.
I really like that you showed us what you were building and explained the steps. Most of these videos show us a lot of measuring and cutting with no context.
I got my pocket hole jig from Lidl. Works great. Same with the doweling jig. I'm not a Craftsman, but I need to build multiple built-ins and bookcases for my house.
This guys friend that loaned him his Kreg Jig to make his own, what a sucker. His buddy spent $40 and got a Kreg Jig, drill bit with stop and sq driver.
While I’m definitely DIY guy, and while the thought of copying one of these did occur to me, I ended up just buying the 320 kit because it comes with a clamp adaptor, step drill bit, drill stop, long square drive bit, thickness gauge/allen wrench, 40 screws, the 3-part jig itself (two single-jigs and a spacer) - all in a decent case that keeps everything together. All in all it’s more than paid back the $40 ten-fold.
Of course they do- this is where the idea came from in the first place, my grandfather had a jig exactly like this he made himself before I was even born!
Nice trick. To make it without the Kreg jig, drill your holes straight in a bigger block. Measure the angles and cut the block accordingly. Good stuff.
I recommend making several of these; it's good to have a backup (or two, or three) because there's always someone on the job site who just might "borrow" your brand new pocket hole jig, or possibly your entire tool kit of jigs🙄, insurance only covers soooo much. Thanks for the video, keep up the great work...love the Squatch...!
My hobby is repairing stringed instruments, and I use traditional hide glues as well as modern synthetic "white" glue. When I do some cabinet making, I use 15 minute fast drying glue and just butt and clamp the joints together. Rarely have I had a joint failure (perhaps never . . .). That may seem sacrilegious to some but the truth is twofold; if you're gluing and screwing a joint together, the screw holds absolutely nothing when the glue has dried - it's all about the glue. Secondly, we no longer need all the fancy joints used when our ancestors only had access to weaker hide glues; they needed these various joints to increase the surface area of the joint since they were working with inferior glues. Today's synthetic glues are very effective, creating a bond that is often stronger than the wood material itself. No need to complicate things.
That’s cool! Yeah, the glue we have these days is ridiculous. I still like to use the pocket holes because it makes for really tight fits. Thanks for the comment!
I've done some woodwork, but I'm not much. I thought that I couldn't really make a nice piece because I didn't have any specialized joining tools. What you just said makes a lot of sense to me. I think I may have to reevaluate what projects I try. Thanks!
Although the glue is stronger, there are reasons to still use screws. For example: parts that you cannot securely clamp or add sufficient weight to during the curing process or pieces that will be subjected to forces that will cause eventual glue failure. Glue works but is not optimum for all situations nor are screws. Sometimes you use both for the advantages each gives you.
@@davidprocopio9021 You can make a nice piece without specialized joint tools. As mentioned, I've butted together two pieces of wood and, well glued and clamped, created joints that never failed. However, there are those that would criticize that practice since it just seems too simple and not emotionally appealing. The alternative is to use very simple rabbet joints (my favorite is the overlap rabbet, especially for drawers) which is all you'll ever need. Get a good router, master one or two of the simplest joints, use modern synthetic glues, and you can build whatever you want.
@@ianbelletti6241 Sure, as you know clamping can be complex and can need 5 hands at one time. I'll sometimes use an air nailer to secure pieces together - once that is done I can either clamp for extra pressure or just leave it. Screws? If the glue fails then screws are better than nothing . . . but something has gone wrong somewhere. My father was truly a master cabinet maker, apprenticed in Germany, and at the time that he was taught, it was unheard of to have any metal in the workpiece whatsoever, it was all glues. Of course it's the same with the instruments that I work on, so I probably exhibit an unfair bias on this subject.
I already own a Kreg Jig though you got me thinking for the single version... I'm going to build one. Probably would really piss Kreg off is making a 3D printed version and using the metal insert. Thanks for sharing!
Nice! Lol, yeah, I’m sure they don’t appreciate us using their stuff to make our own. It could be very handy to make your own with a 3D printer! Maybe I need to make an investment 🤔
@@petermiddo Don't forget to remind us again maybe in two months... since is getting closer to the totally indoors projects when I tend to work on the 3D print designs and a few others electronics related... other than shoveling snow.
@@jafinch78 unless I get to it first. My 3d Printer arrived on New Years Eve (our wedding anniversary, so yeah, happy wedding anniversary to me!) I'd love to know the OD on the metal tube you've used.
Thank you for showing us DIYers how to make this useful jig. I shared this video with a friend of mine who is in the trade and does stuff like this professionally. He said that he's going to buy the genuine Kreg Jig and pass the info to his work peers. He said that they will be interested in the jig as well. So that's a big win for DIYers and Kreg.
This is great to see you share this. I made one a few years ago as I couldn't afford the $80 kit. Had a nice wide vice clamp to hold to piece and been using it since.
That's the key thing. Many people may not be near a store to buy the manufactured item or they may have an immediate need for the item or sometimes the cost is a real strain on their ability to buy it. Every business, every industry, grows and improves when individuals innovate. Sometimes a DIY project becomes a new business for the DIYer.
actually, Kreg is very angry over these types of things. I made a version of the big blue jig with clamp about 15 years ago which used one of their small jigs ($20 back then) and $13 worth of materials. I sold a video showing how to do it. it saved many people $120 off the price of the kreg tool back then. Kreg sent me a threatening letter thru their lawyer telling me to stop selling the video. kreg makes good tools but they are greedy and yes they do indeed care.
I think it might be way easier to 3d-print one of these. A parametric STL design would allow you to specify dimensions to get exactly the jig you need. You'd still want the metal sleeve, tho.
@@wh1teafr1ca drill bushings are better. Will be more accurate and last forever. We have used them at work and they are within like +- 0.1* even after a year and thousands of drills lol
That was nice basic jig. I have seen a couple others made and you are right they go way into elaborate detail to make the jig. Yours was the simplest one I have seen, good job.
Thank you so much! That was the whole point. I’ve watched so many of these made and there was way too much detail involved and most of them required a drill press which I don’t have, so I wanted to attack it from a different angle
Big companies like them takes great ideas from honest folks like us and will change it ever so slightly to steal the credit and monetary gains owed to for our ideas and ingenuity. All they know how to do is harass you with lawyers and the threats off losing everything. Start your own LLC’s and put everything in it’s name’s. If you don’t own it then they can’t take it from you. They play with a stacked deck so why play the same way.
I have seen diy pocket hole jig and talked with the man who made it. After finishing with it he bought cheep Chinese one only for 18 holes because diy wasn’t convenient, so kreg doesn’t want to ban anything, they have more orders than they can supply
Pretty sure Kreg isnt claiming to be the 1st ever to make them. However they are 2 famlies of cabinet makers that decided to produce and sell what they use. They just so happen to make good cost efficient products
You don't need the jig in order to make your own jig, you just need a little know-how of simple mathematics and use a milling machine or an angle finder with a drill press and make it out of solid aluminum if you like and sleeve the drill holes with drill bushings
This what I was think about myself, I went to buy one for my workshop buy here in Australia the price tag is way over the top for something that will be used a handful of times a year. So I decided to make my own jig and rather than make one with the holes next to each other I will make it to the width that I would like the finished holes to be set at. Having to unclamp it move it and re-clamping it to drill the next hole is wasting time so will base mine of the two diameters used in cabinet making and then I will have the one jig for two uses with no need for moving it with either width. In watching him making it then using it gave me the idea on how I will make mine so that it suits my needs. But I sure was not going to pay $45 AUS for a jug with just one hole in it that’s a lot of money for a hole 😳 as for the larger jig well that one is way out of my price range😹😹😹 I have some really nice ironbark tree off cuts can not get anything tuffer than that wood.😹😹
Pretty cool! I wouldn't be threatened if I was Kreg though. The jig you are coping is relatively cheap, probably not more than what you spent in materials making this one. The Kreg one comes with the drill and stop ring too which are crucial to using the pocket hole jig. All-in-all I don't see many people wanting to go this route even if they know they can.
A very true. At this time, DIY MAN has over 1.6 MM views on this video. So, not only has this been entertaining to watch for us, but he's made some nice pocket change to boot.
@Valkyrie Frost And there's nothing wrong with that. I am now trying to discover a way to monetize a video of my own. Now, where did I put my camera...
Kreg should sponsor this guy because he's going to sell a lot of jigs for them. I personally decided around :50 that I was far too lazy to make my own jig and decided to just spend the money to buy the real thing.
If you don't have a 3/8" tube laying around, find an auto engine parts supplier and ask for 3/8 iron valve guides in a length you can use. They are relatively cheap and made to fit a 1/2" hole with .002 press/interference fit.
I think you’re doing a great job dude. Just by watching you do what you did I have figured out how to make that jig without using or buying the Craig jig. So thank you and I’ll these other people that have nothing better to do than criticize you for having some intelligence and taking the initiative to try to figure out how to do something for yourself obviously are very bored. Good job bro keep it up
He didn't do the figuring, KREG did. Not hating on him for making it, just for advertising the plagiarized design on here for the clicks, ego, $$, or whatever.
Kreg is hilarious, we’re they really trying to get this video removed???? After watching all the steps I think most would rather go out and buy the jig. I don’t think kreg has anything to worry about, other then the countless competitors on Amazon offering all aluminum with steel guides at a cheaper price lol.
Lol, they weren’t really trying to ban it. It’s just a bad joke. Yeah, the jig is definitely worth the purchase, but now I have two of them, and I will use the leftover steel tubing to make a dowel joinery jig. I just haven’t got around to making it yet.
@@DIYMAN yes, it was a bad joke. You’ve joined the countless other RUclipsrs who think a sensational headline will bring you more viewers. If you’re a true professional, don’t make misleading headlines like this again.
If Kreg wanted it banned it already would be...most people's time is worth more than time spent trying to make one (in their thinking) just work an extra hour of overtime. Nice job though 😊
So, here’s a tip, just buy a $5 jig from harbor freight or somewhere like that. Cost on wood alone is saved. Also not really impressive if you have to use the pocket hole to make one….
Thank you for taking the time for this DIY MAN. Very precise and well put together. These type of videos help a LOT of People... Beginners AND PROs.. If you shut your mind to new Ideas then you NEVER Progress beyond what you ARE TODAY! Thanks again
Okay, I get it that this is primarily a video about making a video about how to make a jig. I went on the internet and found one for $12. I think the 1/2" metal pipe costs more than the jig. I did watch the whole video and saw you had 800k views so I think this was a win-win situation. Great job.
I recalledl seeing something very similar to the Kregg jig in Harbor Freight catalogs about 20 +/- years ago , saw the first Kregg commercial. Went to Harbor Freight with an old catalog showing their version, he said they had to pull them off the shelves.
Step 1 in making a DIY Kreg hole Jig - Go buy a Kreg Hole Jig Step 2 - realise you now have a Kreg Hole Jig so end video. Step 3 - sit and think about the fact Kreg don’t want this video banned they actually love it and sales have shot up. !! Thanks Kreg salesman 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
Don‘t believe that they want to ban this Video: you‘re lost wirhout the Kreg‘s Pockethole-tool in order to make a simple copy which hasn‘t the functionalty of the original. No way, they don‘t stop laughing…
Cool idea and beautiful work! However...if people are trying to DIY something, then they most likely don't have those tools to make this. So showing how to make this without the kregg, with a skill saw and hack saw would be more impressive.
I liked this for a business standpoint. A little labor with scrap material to hand out tools to the employees is always appreciated. Never know when you'll need something or more than one!
Suggest that you scuff the external surface of the tube especially it the tube is galvanised or stainless steel with wire wool or a Scotchbrite pad it will let the epoxy have a better 'grab' on the tube.
I'm with KREG on this issue. I'm sure they paid their design engineers, testers, and the cost of production molds in order to market their product. I'm not sure how much your time is worth but notwithstanding the issue of pilfering their design you spent a lot of hours fabricating something that's at best almost as good. You also didn't mention that the factory version has a bit that drills both the small screw hole AND the larger clearance hole. I make my own tools sometimes from "borrowed" designs too, but I don't know if I'd go online to tout that if you "...borrow a kreg pocket hole jig from a friend, you can easily make your own...." You seem to be just asking for a cease and desist letter, but hey what do I know?
for the most part, the only way he's gonna get in trouble for it is if he tries to sell it. this is a diy tool, and its unlikely made to the exact spec of the original so its not the biggest deal. honestly, i think id be more afraid to be your friend than of kreg coming after him, you sound like a real fun time at any get together and probably a narc lol
They can't "ban" an idea - there are very few ways to make a device which accurately (and repeatedly) can drill pocket screws. Where the problem is with your statement "If you can borrow a kreg pocket hole jig from a friend, you can easily make your own", means it's a direct copy. Don't make a direct copy and it should be fine.
Are you a lawyer? I'd be careful if you're not. The USPTO patents way too many general "ideas", especially in the computer arena. I don't see any way Kreg could patent the idea of a generalized "drilling alignment guide." These have been used since at least an electric drill was first created over a hundred years ago. I'm sure my grandfather made use of these when making cabinets by the mid '50s (yes, 1950's the decade I was born in). Kreg specifying the jig is only for pocket holes doesn't really help because pocket holes have been around for years. Kreg isn't the only pocket hole jig manufacturer either, although the others might be paying Kreg for a license. Kreg stared around 1989. Found an article giving the history of doweling: "The technique, in addition to doweling, has its roots in ancient Egypt. Egyptians clamped two workpieces together and bored a hole at an angle from the outside workpiece into the second workpiece. They then inserted a dowel with glue, and cut it off flush with the outermost surface." Sound familiar. This sounds like Kreg's idea wasn't unique and could be challenged. disclaimer: not a lawyer, just did some quick research. I've made drilling jigs before for my own use following methods used way before Kreg was formed.
The amount vitriol in these comments is quite discouraging. I personally enjoyed this video. I’m not a professional carpenter, I’m just an average guy trying to do the best that I can. I liked it. Thank you for posting!
That's that's actually genius I've had two of them the Craig pocket hole jigs and both of them don't work this way at least I can make it work genius just genius thank you
For all the whiners that think they are geniuses, even though they probably can't figure out how to use a pocket hole jig ... skilled craftsman enjoy making their own tools and equipment whenever possible; and those handmade items are often much higher quality and more accurate than those mass market poc's made in China; and handcrafted tools made by a skilled craftsman often look like a piece of art and are a joy to use. BTW: any of the Kreg jigs cost a LOT more than what he put into his jig. Look it up. Haters gonna hate, whiners gonna whine. 🙄
Thank you Lonna J. They are certainly entitled to their opinions, but you would think that “expert craftsmen” would appreciate the journey and not just the destination, and you are right, I paid way less for the supplies to build this than the Kreg Jig
The real version of the thing you made costs $30. You spent more than $30 on the parts to make the fake one.. not to mention the hours of time it took you to make it. It reminds me of Ritz Crackers "Mock Apple Pie" recipe. The amount of crackers it took to make a fake apple pie cost 10 times as much as real apples, so why would anybody make a fake pie?
@@penguin12902 a lot of people don't even own a HAMMER! but the main point I was making is that it is not worth the time and expense to be attempting to make home-made jigs. The real one's are not that expensive.
Great video, right up to the point of advocating (with a "just kidding" politically attached) the "get one from your DIY store and then return it". Yes, sociopaths do this. But not us. I won't be back.
Though you wasn't coming back PaPaw?? I'm worried abot you,. Cause the only thing I am worried about is someone not helping you remember to take your arthritis and dementia pills.. Don't get me started on you and a flight of stairs..
For about $30 you can simply buy the Kreg pocket hole jog that is already built, doesnt require time to make, and still having to find and buy the material. Personally I like the Kreg Foreman that I have, its simply a workhorse and is one of the best wood working tools I have.
Good video, Personally made one with a 3D printer and that same metal tubing. I'm all for buying original, but if you use it on the same boards over and over again.... 3D can save you having to move the jig (print it spaced out) and cut time down. Got a few, for various sized boards.
@@DIYMAN They are, once you can get past the learning curve and get nice, consistent prints. One thing I've found, and might be a helpful tip for you or anyone without one.... check out your local library. With STEM in grade schools, many libraries around me now have them. For residents they have pretty decent rates (pay by printed gram). I did that to build my first printer, then reprinted the plastic parts with my printer :)
@@DIYMAN How is the plasma cutter, or hows it been working for you? I used one (handheld) at work from time to time, and thought about maybe trying to do a CnC version (based on the MPCNC project), but wondered how it's longevity would be with the splatter, dust and such. As for the 3rd dimension in printing, it's not too bad as long as your build it square and true , the hardest part is "leveling" the bed to keep a constant gap with the hotend (print head, basically), so the first layer goes down good. That first layer is the kind of make it or brake it test of the whole print. Nothing worse than a 15 hour job dying 14 hours in cuz the print came unstuck., Or curled up and caused a collision with the hotend.
I had to sell it a few months back. I needed the money, but I loved it. If the tips weren’t kept perfectly clean, it left a lot of slag, but it was an awesome toy
It's ok though, it's cool to have your own hand-made tools around the shop. My point is just go spend the 20 bucks on the real thing and repurchase this particular hand made tool for a double barrel methpipe since you're clearly about that whole "let's spend and entire day focused as SHIT on saving 20 bucks" life 🥴👌🤣
Well, since I don't have solid Oak, Walnut, pipe, a friend who owns a pocket hole jig, a 1/2 inch drill bit, or a giant chop saw, I'll just buy a commercial jig.
Did or Kreg contact you personally and ask you to take this video down? How did you find out they wanted it BANNED? Or............clickbait. Why not just call the video what it is? How to make your own pocket hole jig. That shit's fine for the kids drama channels but makers and educators should be able to produce videos on their own merit.
When i made the title, I figured that it would be impossible to know what someone wanted. Yeah, probably not the best title… I am trying to be more careful in the future
Personally I'm on Kreg's side here. If you looked at their jig and decided to create your own, fair enough. You are, however using a design which has been well developed to create a copy, not come up with your own variation. Mind you, that's what other companies have done. Doesn't mean it is ethically reasonable, however...
Kreg company should not ban this video. In fact, they should totally pay you big bucks to promote it. That way people know they are getting a heck of a deal on their tools. Can you imagine trying to make your own screwdriver out of raw materials? Anyhow, thank you for the video. I enjoyed it and found new appreciation for all the affordable tools we have today. 😄
1/2 galvanized pipe with 1/16th wall is like 4$ for a 2.5 ft length that's already threaded @ home depot. Also I can 3D print a Kreg joint jig in about 2 hours. But this was cool too.
In my modest assessment, re-engineering is engineering. How can this be a bad thing? Seems like a learning experience to me. Honing skills, gaining knowledge, and learning.
Interesting that you had positive things to say about that Gorilla glue. I have found that one component comes out faster than the other so, for small jobs, it isn't easy to combine equal amounts of the two.
I sometimes do sanding like you did here. Especially if I am sharpening a wood chisel. I will put my sandpaper on the table of my band saw. It takes a flat surface to make a flat surface.
@@DIYMAN I refinish pianos and seldom do I use any electric sanders. In that field it is critical to go with the grain. But I use 8 inch hardwood sanding blocks because it takes a flat surface to make a flat surface. All the best in your video and woodworking pursuits.
I love these projects! The kind that save $15 and only take 4.5 hours and 3 trips to the hardware store and 2 cuts on my hand to complete! ;)
Don't forget the new cordless drill you knocked off the benchtop that landed perfectly on a piece of 6" steel I Beam that cracked the case open beyond repair, and the expensive dinner you had to buy for the misses cause, the epoxy you mixed tipped over and dripped on a piece of scrap, I mean, a hand carved bowl her father made.......so you could save a few bucks on a simple jig......
I was thinking the same thing LOL
@@jockojohn3294 lmaoooo
Not to mention 6000 dollars worth of power tools and shop gear... :-)
hahaha
Here's a little tip. You may wish to relieve your deep drilling a few times (back the bit out) instead trying to horse the bit all the way through in one stroke. Minimizes tear out, and your bit won't dull so quickly. (Retired machinist)
Thanks for the tip!
Also, drill speed and down pressure are important to keep in mind. Learning to sharpen bits on a bench grinder saves lots of money. Back cuts were hardest to learn for me personally. (Retired welder who worked many years in machine shops)
That's what I was thinking. The way he drills is savage!
Thank you! Makes sense!
Yes, good advice, that should be a no-brainer. Otherwise, the drill flutes become clogged and there will eventually be nowhere for the cut material to go. It packs together causing friction and heat.
These DIY videos are great. I'm going to go buy a Kreg jig and make my own jig today! I'm l about saving money on overpriced tools. If you have a video of how to make a drill using a drill, I'll be all set.
I cant believe I didn't think to use non hardened steel pipe, what was I thinking?
I love DIY videos but for the layman like me it would be more expensive to buy all his tools to make the kreg jig than it would be just to buy a kreg jig.
@@SupernovaSmith Whoosh
with one Kreg jig you can make hundreds of DIY jigs
LMFAO. Yep Kreg Jigs will be seeing a pump in sales whilst you all go out buying one. To then just make a wooden copy.....REALLY>
One of the best advertisements I've ever seen to prompt me to buy a Kreg jig. :)
It depends on your hourly rate. Their jig doesn't cost me as much as the time to make one would and many others likely are in a similar situation. It is a nice custom jig though. 👍
For sure. Probably not as good or precise as the original but still worth more because custom and beautiful. A beautiful tool that feels good to use is always better.
Yes but if you do it over the weekend it won't cost you anything.
Exactly
@@rogeronslow1498 it costs time, the question is whether that time is worth that much to you.
@JoeA1974 Who pays you when you are not at work? My hourly rate is $7000 an hour ($10,000 on weekends), but I' can't find who to submit the bill to.
so you need a Kreg's pocket hole jig to make your own pocket hole jig?... that's funny
Man! It is pretty funny made me laugh
If you have one on hand use it hello
@@patrickarchuleta9594 in that case why the f u need to spend all that time for DIY jig... Just use the orginal 🤣🤣
And I do believe he spent more on the epoxy and pipe than what the Kreg jig cost. Oh, and you still need to buy the drill bit.
If you wanna waste money, time, and brain cells then this is your guy.
You borrow a buddies to make your own duh...👍
I bought a Kreg jig kit years ago and I love it. It is very well designed and a lot of thought obviously went into the initial development. My only regret is that I didn't think of it first (lol). My background is in tool and die and I must say that the Kreg company has some really good talent.
Their engineering is excellent, but definitely built to a price point.
As for me, personally, I’d gladly pay a little more for more rigid materials, in their saw guides !
But the drill jigs are perfectly satisfactory in my experience.
If you don't want to have a jig to start with, the incline is 15 degrees. :) Other improvements might be to instead using the pipe, use drill bushings, which are hardened on the inside for this purpose. Drill press if you have one, even a small one, will make getting the 15 degree angles easy.
It s 40 for a jig which includes bits, If thats too much you probably can t afford the wood.
It actually wears very little on the bushings. I made a plastic one with copper inserts and there was so little wear in use that when I printed one for thinner wood, I didn't even bother with the bushings.
@@johnprimerano534 Not everyone can afford the higher prices for all these jigs and this young Man took the time to tell us exactly HOW to make our OWN! Overall it may cost the same but the parts don't have to be bought all at one time. Why not Leave a LINK for some of YOUR Ideas John? ...
"If you have access to a pocket hole jig, you can build this non-adjustable jig for half the cost of a commercial one, but without the drill bit or any other extras the commercial one would come with, which will cost you the difference, anyway."
Yeah, I don't think Kreg wants to ban this video. You're generating new customers for them. 😉
There are useful techniques to learn from this, of course, and if you needed a spare temporary jig for some reason in a pinch and had the materials to make it, sure. And it's good to remember that you can and should make most of the jigs you need. But really, just buy an off-brand pocket hole jig or wait for a sale. Ditto for a dowel jig -- the commercial ones are going to have features for usability and precision that are going to be worth a few bucks more.
exactly what i was thinking.. lol
I demand a solution to a problem that doesn't exist!
With 2.5 million views on this video, I don’t think he really cares.
u mad cause you got baited
I made my own out of 3/4 and 1” aluminum in 1992. Still have it. Haven’t used it for years. Looks good on a shelf.
That’s awesome. I’d like to make a metal one as well
I bought an aluminum jig in 1992, it looks exactly like the Kreg jig.
Gluing something tacky to the bottom, grippy rubber, 200+ grit sandpaper, etc is a useful addition. A depth setting end cap works well too if you only use that particular jig for a certain width of material and have more for others .
If you use pocket holes a lot, specifically in one type of lumber you may want to build a stationary pocket hole station with a dedicated drill.
I’ll just buy one. Thus, respecting the company’s efforts on their design, manufacturing, distribution and jobs.
innovation belongs in the hands of the proletariat
My jig was MIA in a stack of moving boxes... I was making new cabinet frames for a laundry area, and decided to take a chance on a Harbor Freight version (I know), hoping it would at least last the duration of my project... I bought the full sized jig (not the pocket jig) and I was Blown away!
This thing is beautifully machined from aluminum with steel (possibly stainless) inserts, it's fully adjustable, it clamps your stock securely in place for you, it's bench (or board) mountable, it's every bit as accurate as my Kreg, offers multiple angles for varying board thicknesses and is IMO easier to adjust than the Kreg.
I've made custom face frames and paneled doors for the entire home, including living room built-ins.... All out of hard Maple and some Oak, along with various other projects. This jig is still as good as day#1 (4 years ago), with the exception of having to buy a bit before about a year ago.
I was going to link the item here and to my surprise, (possibly due to recent tariffs or supply chain issues), H.F. has raised the price DRAMATICALLY from what I paid a few years back... But given the choice, I'd STILL opt for the HF aluminum TOOL over Kreg's overpriced injection molded plastic block.
Yeah, I'm going to make a pocket version in cherry, just because... But if you're going to buy one. Check out HF... I won't judge you. ;-)
I’m going to look at these
Finally someone else who likes Harbor Freight tools.
@@the_car_guy5915 - Let's not get carried away😂... HF can save you in a pinch, maybe let you grab a tool that you don't use often, and sometimes lure you into buying that tool that you wish you hadn't...
But they DO have some hidden gems within the rows of shiny disposable stuff... Add the 20% discount coupon or even better yet, the driveway sales, and you'd need to be a real tool snob to not give their versions a try.
I've had great luck with their floor jacks, shop presses, and the bar clamps are an absolute NO-BRAINER at that price when you need 10 or 20 of them...
At the same time, I've nearly bled-out at my rural property due to a shattered Chinese cut-off wheel... Upon testing two of the remaining wheels (upon the removal of my stitches), I'll just say "be careful" with what you buy. Usually you get EXACTLY what you pay for... But sometimes you really do find a winner.😉
I think hf did away with coupons for 20% and up ?
@@JacobKnightRiderShop - 😯 It's official... The world is going to shi...
So you have to buy a pocket hole jig to make a DIY one? Brilliant!
Brutal workmanship.
I've been a carpenter for 40 yrs, and I appreciate all the company's like Kreg that make great products for us. Good for them if they made a lot of money they deserve it. I've made a lot of great jigs over the years thanks to the help of experienced carpenters who pass them along. I'm not much for recreating what is already available by great companies like Kreg. I like to use their products to create great things.
No offense by any means...
Thanks for the honest feedback Frank. I also love Kregs stuff. I didn’t mean anything by the video. I just wanted to have some fun
Yeah, I kinda feel the same way. A basic Kreg pocket hole jig only costs $30. $30 doesn't even cover your time and materials to make this. And after all that it's only set up for 1 by material rather than the adjustable feature for other board thicknesses the Kreg jig offers. I sincerely doubt Kreg wasting any time worrying about trying to ban your video bro...just sayin.
If you've been a carpenter for 40 yrs and started using pocket holes... what went wrong? Obviously using a rabbet or dovetail, dowel joint, or even just a simple glue up is going to be more reliable and stronger then a flimsy pocket joint. I can't imagine that you don't already know by now how to make them after 40 years unless you're just a framer. Why switch to pocket holes? Any seasoned carpenter unless he is shilling a video on youtube would scoff at the sight of a pocket hole jig. Weakest joint imo.
@@paulweston8184
Just a framer.😄
@@paulweston8184 1st. After 40 years he knows something you obviously haven't learned. "Right connection for the project at hand."
Your opinion is that they are the weakest type of connection. And if you dont use them correctly, they are. Find 'Stumpy Nubs' and '731 Woodworking' here on RUclips.
There is a best use scenario for every type of connection. Learn that and maybe you won't be so offensive to a 40 year woodworking veteran.
oh gosh this brings back memories. I made my third pocket hole jig in a similar way, truth be told, I made my second pocket hole jig like this. My third one I made using the second one. The first one is still my favourite though, I like the way it works better.
If it's just for looks, it's looking good, if it's for function, it's looking good too! Glad you didn't burn down the shop!
Thank you! I appreciate that! There was lots of smoke with that chop saw going through the metal and wood, but it saved so much time. Lol
I really like that you showed us what you were building and explained the steps. Most of these videos show us a lot of measuring and cutting with no context.
After watching your video, I immediately bought a real KREG jig!
this video convinced me to just buy a pocket hole jig
😂 it’s definitely worth the extra $20
Yep I think I'll just get a K5 so I at least look like I know what I'm doing. I had to watch this just to see how dumb and a waste of time this is.
I got my pocket hole jig from Lidl. Works great. Same with the doweling jig.
I'm not a Craftsman, but I need to build multiple built-ins and bookcases for my house.
I purchased hasedthe same one as you and found it very good , and a hell of a lot cheaper.
I like the look of the Greg jigs but they are so expensive.
Alternatively you could drill vertically and cut the timber to suit with a table saw.
smart
This guys friend that loaned him his Kreg Jig to make his own, what a sucker. His buddy spent $40 and got a Kreg Jig, drill bit with stop and sq driver.
While I’m definitely DIY guy, and while the thought of copying one of these did occur to me, I ended up just buying the 320 kit because it comes with a clamp adaptor, step drill bit, drill stop, long square drive bit, thickness gauge/allen wrench, 40 screws, the 3-part jig itself (two single-jigs and a spacer) - all in a decent case that keeps everything together.
All in all it’s more than paid back the $40 ten-fold.
Of course they do- this is where the idea came from in the first place, my grandfather had a jig exactly like this he made himself before I was even born!
Let's see....All I need is $1,000 of shop tools and I can build a jig that costs $50 from KREG. Got it. Thanks!
Lmfao
Maybe you could even build other things with the same tools
Yes, I plan to build a dowel joinery jig with the leftover parts
You need parts from a pocket hole jig to build a pocket hole jig. got it.
Nice trick. To make it without the Kreg jig, drill your holes straight in a bigger block. Measure the angles and cut the block accordingly. Good stuff.
Thanks Jesse
That’s actually a great idea.
I recommend making several of these; it's good to have a backup (or two, or three) because there's always someone on the job site who just might "borrow" your brand new pocket hole jig, or possibly your entire tool kit of jigs🙄, insurance only covers soooo much. Thanks for the video, keep up the great work...love the Squatch...!
That’s a great idea! I’ve definitely got friends like that. Lol. Thanks!
Yup I bought one and returned it after I was done! Thanks!
“How to create a pocket hole jig with a pocket hole jig”
That is an accurate title
@@DIYMAN thanks you convinced me not to build it myself and just buy the $30 jig
No problem. It’s worth spending the money. It’s easily the most used tool in my shop
🤣🤣🤣
My hobby is repairing stringed instruments, and I use traditional hide glues as well as modern synthetic "white" glue. When I do some cabinet making, I use 15 minute fast drying glue and just butt and clamp the joints together. Rarely have I had a joint failure (perhaps never . . .). That may seem sacrilegious to some but the truth is twofold; if you're gluing and screwing a joint together, the screw holds absolutely nothing when the glue has dried - it's all about the glue. Secondly, we no longer need all the fancy joints used when our ancestors only had access to weaker hide glues; they needed these various joints to increase the surface area of the joint since they were working with inferior glues. Today's synthetic glues are very effective, creating a bond that is often stronger than the wood material itself. No need to complicate things.
That’s cool! Yeah, the glue we have these days is ridiculous. I still like to use the pocket holes because it makes for really tight fits. Thanks for the comment!
I've done some woodwork, but I'm not much. I thought that I couldn't really make a nice piece because I didn't have any specialized joining tools. What you just said makes a lot of sense to me. I think I may have to reevaluate what projects I try. Thanks!
Although the glue is stronger, there are reasons to still use screws. For example: parts that you cannot securely clamp or add sufficient weight to during the curing process or pieces that will be subjected to forces that will cause eventual glue failure. Glue works but is not optimum for all situations nor are screws. Sometimes you use both for the advantages each gives you.
@@davidprocopio9021 You can make a nice piece without specialized joint tools. As mentioned, I've butted together two pieces of wood and, well glued and clamped, created joints that never failed. However, there are those that would criticize that practice since it just seems too simple and not emotionally appealing. The alternative is to use very simple rabbet joints (my favorite is the overlap rabbet, especially for drawers) which is all you'll ever need. Get a good router, master one or two of the simplest joints, use modern synthetic glues, and you can build whatever you want.
@@ianbelletti6241 Sure, as you know clamping can be complex and can need 5 hands at one time. I'll sometimes use an air nailer to secure pieces together - once that is done I can either clamp for extra pressure or just leave it. Screws? If the glue fails then screws are better than nothing . . . but something has gone wrong somewhere. My father was truly a master cabinet maker, apprenticed in Germany, and at the time that he was taught, it was unheard of to have any metal in the workpiece whatsoever, it was all glues. Of course it's the same with the instruments that I work on, so I probably exhibit an unfair bias on this subject.
I already own a Kreg Jig though you got me thinking for the single version... I'm going to build one. Probably would really piss Kreg off is making a 3D printed version and using the metal insert. Thanks for sharing!
Nice! Lol, yeah, I’m sure they don’t appreciate us using their stuff to make our own. It could be very handy to make your own with a 3D printer! Maybe I need to make an investment 🤔
Please let me know when and where you've uploaded your design files. I've got a 3D printer on my Christmas list....
@@petermiddo Don't forget to remind us again maybe in two months... since is getting closer to the totally indoors projects when I tend to work on the 3D print designs and a few others electronics related... other than shoveling snow.
@@jafinch78 sounds like a plan! Although, it my summer, and that means beach weather.
@@jafinch78 unless I get to it first. My 3d Printer arrived on New Years Eve (our wedding anniversary, so yeah, happy wedding anniversary to me!) I'd love to know the OD on the metal tube you've used.
Thank you for showing us DIYers how to make this useful jig. I shared this video with a friend of mine who is in the trade and does stuff like this professionally. He said that he's going to buy the genuine Kreg Jig and pass the info to his work peers. He said that they will be interested in the jig as well. So that's a big win for DIYers and Kreg.
Awesome! You’re welcome!
I thought this was going to be a tool hack to save me money... turns out the only hack in this video was the producer.
This is great to see you share this. I made one a few years ago as I couldn't afford the $80 kit. Had a nice wide vice clamp to hold to piece and been using it since.
That's the key thing. Many people may not be near a store to buy the manufactured item or they may have an immediate need for the item or sometimes the cost is a real strain on their ability to buy it. Every business, every industry, grows and improves when individuals innovate. Sometimes a DIY project becomes a new business for the DIYer.
$80 for that thing? like clerical error says: get a drill press! sure amazon can do you one for $80.🙂
I needed a chuckle. Thanks
Something tells me that kreg could care less 🤣 good idea but, I'll just keep buying kregs. Gotta buy one to make this anyways.
actually, Kreg is very angry over these types of things. I made a version of the big blue jig with clamp about 15 years ago which used one of their small jigs ($20 back then) and $13 worth of materials. I sold a video showing how to do it. it saved many people $120 off the price of the kreg tool back then. Kreg sent me a threatening letter thru their lawyer telling me to stop selling the video. kreg makes good tools but they are greedy and yes they do indeed care.
I think it might be way easier to 3d-print one of these. A parametric STL design would allow you to specify dimensions to get exactly the jig you need. You'd still want the metal sleeve, tho.
That's what I did. There are free STL files on Thingiverse. I even modeled my own version. You can use a copper pipe fitting for the sleeve.
@@utubewillyman Or McMaster and buy some proper drill bushings that will last for a long time.
@@wh1teafr1ca drill bushings are better. Will be more accurate and last forever. We have used them at work and they are within like +- 0.1* even after a year and thousands of drills lol
now that's a good idea
Or just buy the R3 jig - you can't 3D print the drill bit, drive bit, drill bushings or the clamp.
🤣🤣🤣 Good "Mike Oxlong" prank this one! The "Jenna Tolls" part made me laugh hard :))))
That was nice basic jig. I have seen a couple others made and you are right they go way into elaborate detail to make the jig. Yours was the simplest one I have seen, good job.
Thank you so much! That was the whole point. I’ve watched so many of these made and there was way too much detail involved and most of them required a drill press which I don’t have, so I wanted to attack it from a different angle
The Kreg Company probably doesn't even know this video exist.
Kreg likes the rip off video because you need to purchace one to build one that will end up in the trash because it is not accurate.
Big companies like them takes great ideas from honest folks like us and will change it ever so slightly to steal the credit and monetary gains owed to for our ideas and ingenuity. All they know how to do is harass you with lawyers and the threats off losing everything. Start your own LLC’s and put everything in it’s name’s. If you don’t own it then they can’t take it from you. They play with a stacked deck so why play the same way.
I have seen diy pocket hole jig and talked with the man who made it. After finishing with it he bought cheep Chinese one only for 18 holes because diy wasn’t convenient, so kreg doesn’t want to ban anything, they have more orders than they can supply
Are you telling me this was just clickbait?! Say it aint so!
"That's OK though, I'll just leave it" is my philosophy for pretty much everything.
😂
I could see making one perhaps 6" wide with three holes so you wouldn't have to shift the jig around so much if you were making drawers, for example.
So, the Kreg K4/K5?
@@FlashPaperGrind No. The K5 looks to be around 3" wide. The time saving is ONE setup to get all three holes done on wider pieces.
At least Kreg doesn’t need someone else’s idea to get noticed 🙂
The heck with Kregg. Pocket holes were around long before Kregg. Most good cabinetmakers made their own jigs for pocket holes among many other things
L9i
But why make one when I company has them fairly cheap, they work excellent, easy to use and last?
Mainly for fun, but I will also probably build a pocket hole station with it eventually too
Pretty sure Kreg isnt claiming to be the 1st ever to make them. However they are 2 famlies of cabinet makers that decided to produce and sell what they use. They just so happen to make good cost efficient products
You don't need the jig in order to make your own jig, you just need a little know-how of simple mathematics and use a milling machine or an angle finder with a drill press and make it out of solid aluminum if you like and sleeve the drill holes with drill bushings
This what I was think about myself, I went to buy one for my workshop buy here in Australia the price tag is way over the top for something that will be used a handful of times a year. So I decided to make my own jig and rather than make one with the holes next to each other I will make it to the width that I would like the finished holes to be set at. Having to unclamp it move it and re-clamping it to drill the next hole is wasting time so will base mine of the two diameters used in cabinet making and then I will have the one jig for two uses with no need for moving it with either width.
In watching him making it then using it gave me the idea on how I will make mine so that it suits my needs. But I sure was not going to pay $45 AUS for a jug with just one hole in it that’s a lot of money for a hole 😳 as for the larger jig well that one is way out of my price range😹😹😹 I have some really nice ironbark tree off cuts can not get anything tuffer than that wood.😹😹
My thought also, oh damn I need a pocket hole jig to make a pocket hole jig...
Yeah because so many people have milling machines. The cost of materials alone is more than what the Kreg R3 costs.
Pretty cool! I wouldn't be threatened if I was Kreg though. The jig you are coping is relatively cheap, probably not more than what you spent in materials making this one. The Kreg one comes with the drill and stop ring too which are crucial to using the pocket hole jig. All-in-all I don't see many people wanting to go this route even if they know they can.
Thanks man! You are right, i still use my Kreg all the time
A very true. At this time, DIY MAN has over 1.6 MM views on this video. So, not only has this been entertaining to watch for us, but he's made some nice pocket change to boot.
@Valkyrie Frost And there's nothing wrong with that. I am now trying to discover a way to monetize a video of my own. Now, where did I put my camera...
Kreg should sponsor this guy because he's going to sell a lot of jigs for them. I personally decided around :50 that I was far too lazy to make my own jig and decided to just spend the money to buy the real thing.
He spent more than double what the jig actually costs. This video was a sad clickbait cry for attention, nothing more.
And now you have two pocket hole jigs
Thank you!!! I just made one yesterday... works GREAT!!!
Awesome! You’re welcome!
Next time, scuff the external surface of the pipe with sandpaper, then wipe it down with lacquer thinner. Apply epoxy and slide it into the jig.
If you don't have a 3/8" tube laying around, find an auto engine parts supplier and ask for 3/8 iron valve guides in a length you can use. They are relatively cheap and made to fit a 1/2" hole with .002 press/interference fit.
I wish I had known that when I was making this lol
@@DIYMAN I only know about them from being an engine machinist for years
They are usually around $2-3 each
@@DIYMAN You should look into drill bushings.
So, Lemme get this straight...You need two bought pockethole jigs to make one hand made pockethole jig? BRILLIANT... >-_
Every high school wood shop and adult Ed classes should have this as their 1st project to have for life.
That would be awesome
In 50 years the Kreg jig will be just some plastic junk but your handmade one will be someone's treasured antique.
Thanks for convincing me to buy one instead of making it. If you factor in time, it hardly seems worth it to make on of your own.
I think you’re doing a great job dude. Just by watching you do what you did I have figured out how to make that jig without using or buying the Craig jig. So thank you and I’ll these other people that have nothing better to do than criticize you for having some intelligence and taking the initiative to try to figure out how to do something for yourself obviously are very bored. Good job bro keep it up
Thanks Jeremy! I appreciate that!
He didn't do the figuring, KREG did. Not hating on him for making it, just for advertising the plagiarized design on here for the clicks, ego, $$, or whatever.
Kreg is hilarious, we’re they really trying to get this video removed???? After watching all the steps I think most would rather go out and buy the jig. I don’t think kreg has anything to worry about, other then the countless competitors on Amazon offering all aluminum with steel guides at a cheaper price lol.
Lol, they weren’t really trying to ban it. It’s just a bad joke. Yeah, the jig is definitely worth the purchase, but now I have two of them, and I will use the leftover steel tubing to make a dowel joinery jig. I just haven’t got around to making it yet.
@@DIYMAN I was gonna say that’s getting a little crazy 😂 good job though yours is definitely prettier
Lol, yeah, you never know 😂 thanks!
@@DIYMAN yes, it was a bad joke. You’ve joined the countless other RUclipsrs who think a sensational headline will bring you more viewers. If you’re a true professional, don’t make misleading headlines like this again.
I appreciate the understanding. I plan on being very careful with my titles in the future
I have the Kreg jig. It works very well.
Cool video I would suggest scoring the outside of your metal tube next time for a better bond
Great tip. Thanks!
Make this and put it in a prominent place in your workshop to impress your wood-working buddies. Hide the kreg jig for use when nobody is around.
Exactly 😂
If Kreg wanted it banned it already would be...most people's time is worth more than time spent trying to make one (in their thinking) just work an extra hour of overtime. Nice job though 😊
So, here’s a tip, just buy a $5 jig from harbor freight or somewhere like that. Cost on wood alone is saved. Also not really impressive if you have to use the pocket hole to make one….
Thank you for taking the time for this DIY MAN. Very precise and well put together. These type of videos help a LOT of People... Beginners AND PROs.. If you shut your mind to new Ideas then you NEVER Progress beyond what you ARE TODAY! Thanks again
You’re welcome! I totally agree. That’s how we find new and better ways of doing things. Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment!
1:11 making a pocket hole using a pocket hole LOL
Or after a few tries, I drilled pocket holes freehand (almost perfectly) for years. It's not hard!
Nice!
Okay, I get it that this is primarily a video about making a video about how to make a jig. I went on the internet and found one for $12. I think the 1/2" metal pipe costs more than the jig. I did watch the whole video and saw you had 800k views so I think this was a win-win situation. Great job.
In this part of the world, we drive a nail through as well as drill through slanting without even being aware of such a jig being in existence
Thnx for the video, you convinced me to just go and buy the jig.
I recalledl seeing something very similar to the Kregg jig in Harbor Freight catalogs about 20 +/- years ago , saw the first Kregg commercial. Went to Harbor Freight with an old catalog showing their version, he said they had to pull them off the shelves.
Step 1 in making a DIY Kreg hole Jig - Go buy a Kreg Hole Jig
Step 2 - realise you now have a Kreg Hole Jig so end video.
Step 3 - sit and think about the fact Kreg don’t want this video banned they actually love it and sales have shot up. !! Thanks Kreg salesman
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next up, how to make your own saw stop table saw..
Don‘t believe that they want to ban this Video: you‘re lost wirhout the Kreg‘s Pockethole-tool in order to make a simple copy which hasn‘t the functionalty of the original. No way, they don‘t stop laughing…
Cool idea and beautiful work! However...if people are trying to DIY something, then they most likely don't have those tools to make this. So showing how to make this without the kregg, with a skill saw and hack saw would be more impressive.
Thank you! I appreciate that! And I also appreciate the valuable feedback
I liked this for a business standpoint. A little labor with scrap material to hand out tools to the employees is always appreciated. Never know when you'll need something or more than one!
Suggest that you scuff the external surface of the tube especially it the tube is galvanised or stainless steel with wire wool or a Scotchbrite pad it will let the epoxy have a better 'grab' on the tube.
hole jigs have been around for a long time. my grandfather had one in the 70's
I'm with KREG on this issue. I'm sure they paid their design engineers, testers, and the cost of production molds in order to market their product. I'm not sure how much your time is worth but notwithstanding the issue of pilfering their design you spent a lot of hours fabricating something that's at best almost as good. You also didn't mention that the factory version has a bit that drills both the small screw hole AND the larger clearance hole. I make my own tools sometimes from "borrowed" designs too, but I don't know if I'd go online to tout that if you "...borrow a kreg pocket hole jig from a friend, you can easily make your own...." You seem to be just asking for a cease and desist letter, but hey what do I know?
Well, I'm pretty sure Kreg wouldn't care, any idiot can drum up this.
for the most part, the only way he's gonna get in trouble for it is if he tries to sell it. this is a diy tool, and its unlikely made to the exact spec of the original so its not the biggest deal. honestly, i think id be more afraid to be your friend than of kreg coming after him, you sound like a real fun time at any get together and probably a narc lol
Maybe ..... thats because he wasn't showing how to build a drill bit.
@@gmamagillmore4812 thats a funny one!
Please don't weep for Kreg. They didn't invent the 15 degree angle.
They can't "ban" an idea - there are very few ways to make a device which accurately (and repeatedly) can drill pocket screws. Where the problem is with your statement "If you can borrow a kreg pocket hole jig from a friend, you can easily make your own", means it's a direct copy. Don't make a direct copy and it should be fine.
Are you a lawyer? I'd be careful if you're not. The USPTO patents way too many general "ideas", especially in the computer arena. I don't see any way Kreg could patent the idea of a generalized "drilling alignment guide." These have been used since at least an electric drill was first created over a hundred years ago. I'm sure my grandfather made use of these when making cabinets by the mid '50s (yes, 1950's the decade I was born in). Kreg specifying the jig is only for pocket holes doesn't really help because pocket holes have been around for years. Kreg isn't the only pocket hole jig manufacturer either, although the others might be paying Kreg for a license. Kreg stared around 1989. Found an article giving the history of doweling: "The technique, in addition to doweling, has its roots in ancient Egypt. Egyptians clamped two workpieces together and bored a hole at an angle from the outside workpiece into the second workpiece. They then inserted a dowel with glue, and cut it off flush with the outermost surface." Sound familiar. This sounds like Kreg's idea wasn't unique and could be challenged.
disclaimer: not a lawyer, just did some quick research. I've made drilling jigs before for my own use following methods used way before Kreg was formed.
Nobody gives a shit what either of you are saying as long as you are not selling a copy of a patented thing.
The kreg jig is adjustable for the variety of thickness of material you may be working with... Yours isn't.
Looks good though.
for thicker material all you have to do it put the jig back from the end of the board. The angles are all the same not matter the thickness.
The amount vitriol in these comments is quite discouraging. I personally enjoyed this video. I’m not a professional carpenter, I’m just an average guy trying to do the best that I can. I liked it. Thank you for posting!
Thanks man! I appreciate that!
That's that's actually genius I've had two of them the Craig pocket hole jigs and both of them don't work this way at least I can make it work genius just genius thank you
No problem!
For all the whiners that think they are geniuses, even though they probably can't figure out how to use a pocket hole jig ... skilled craftsman enjoy making their own tools and equipment whenever possible; and those handmade items are often much higher quality and more accurate than those mass market poc's made in China; and handcrafted tools made by a skilled craftsman often look like a piece of art and are a joy to use. BTW: any of the Kreg jigs cost a LOT more than what he put into his jig. Look it up.
Haters gonna hate, whiners gonna whine. 🙄
Thank you Lonna J. They are certainly entitled to their opinions, but you would think that “expert craftsmen” would appreciate the journey and not just the destination, and you are right, I paid way less for the supplies to build this than the Kreg Jig
And winners gonna win!
The real version of the thing you made costs $30. You spent more than $30 on the parts to make the fake one.. not to mention the hours of time it took you to make it. It reminds me of Ritz Crackers "Mock Apple Pie" recipe. The amount of crackers it took to make a fake apple pie cost 10 times as much as real apples, so why would anybody make a fake pie?
but the video got two million views 😉
@@propellerhead2000 true, which is weird because I doubt they have sold more than a few thousand of those Kreg jigs.
@@jamaicatrumpet are you kidding? Everyone i know has one in their tool box. They're inexpensive, and they work great.
@@penguin12902 a lot of people don't even own a HAMMER! but the main point I was making is that it is not worth the time and expense to be attempting to make home-made jigs. The real one's are not that expensive.
@@jamaicatrumpet I agree with that. Just buy the Kreg, but I bet Kreg sells a buttload of these things.
Great video, right up to the point of advocating (with a "just kidding" politically attached) the "get one from your DIY store and then return it". Yes, sociopaths do this. But not us. I won't be back.
I doubt you'll have the Time to.. Good riddance Grampa'.. Tell Saint Peter hi.
Though you wasn't coming back PaPaw?? I'm worried abot you,. Cause the only thing I am worried about is someone not helping you remember to take your arthritis and dementia pills.. Don't get me started on you and a flight of stairs..
For about $30 you can simply buy the Kreg pocket hole jog that is already built, doesnt require time to make, and still having to find and buy the material. Personally I like the Kreg Foreman that I have, its simply a workhorse and is one of the best wood working tools I have.
Good video, Personally made one with a 3D printer and that same metal tubing. I'm all for buying original, but if you use it on the same boards over and over again.... 3D can save you having to move the jig (print it spaced out) and cut time down. Got a few, for various sized boards.
Thank you! I’d like to get a 3D printer eventually. Sounds fun
@@DIYMAN They are, once you can get past the learning curve and get nice, consistent prints. One thing I've found, and might be a helpful tip for you or anyone without one.... check out your local library. With STEM in grade schools, many libraries around me now have them. For residents they have pretty decent rates (pay by printed gram). I did that to build my first printer, then reprinted the plastic parts with my printer :)
Nice! I had a CNC plasma cutter and that had a pretty steep learning curve so I can imagine it does since you are working with 3 dimensions
@@DIYMAN How is the plasma cutter, or hows it been working for you? I used one (handheld) at work from time to time, and thought about maybe trying to do a CnC version (based on the MPCNC project), but wondered how it's longevity would be with the splatter, dust and such. As for the 3rd dimension in printing, it's not too bad as long as your build it square and true , the hardest part is "leveling" the bed to keep a constant gap with the hotend (print head, basically), so the first layer goes down good. That first layer is the kind of make it or brake it test of the whole print. Nothing worse than a 15 hour job dying 14 hours in cuz the print came unstuck., Or curled up and caused a collision with the hotend.
I had to sell it a few months back. I needed the money, but I loved it. If the tips weren’t kept perfectly clean, it left a lot of slag, but it was an awesome toy
It's ok though, it's cool to have your own hand-made tools around the shop. My point is just go spend the 20 bucks on the real thing and repurchase this particular hand made tool for a double barrel methpipe since you're clearly about that whole "let's spend and entire day focused as SHIT on saving 20 bucks" life 🥴👌🤣
Well, since I don't have solid Oak, Walnut, pipe, a friend who owns a pocket hole jig, a 1/2 inch drill bit, or a giant chop saw, I'll just buy a commercial jig.
Did or Kreg contact you personally and ask you to take this video down? How did you find out they wanted it BANNED?
Or............clickbait.
Why not just call the video what it is? How to make your own pocket hole jig.
That shit's fine for the kids drama channels but makers and educators should be able to produce videos on their own merit.
When i made the title, I figured that it would be impossible to know what someone wanted. Yeah, probably not the best title… I am trying to be more careful in the future
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Thank you! I appreciate that!
Lol my kreg foreman is also great. Thank you kreg! My 520 jig also works pretty well.
Plywood or HDF seems more appropriate, use veneer if you want fancy.
Heh, looks like a double barrel chillum.
cool;
Personally I'm on Kreg's side here. If you looked at their jig and decided to create your own, fair enough. You are, however using a design which has been well developed to create a copy, not come up with your own variation. Mind you, that's what other companies have done. Doesn't mean it is ethically reasonable, however...
Kreg company should not ban this video. In fact, they should totally pay you big bucks to promote it. That way people know they are getting a heck of a deal on their tools. Can you imagine trying to make your own screwdriver out of raw materials?
Anyhow, thank you for the video. I enjoyed it and found new appreciation for all the affordable tools we have today. 😄
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching
I bought it and I am very happy they invented it.
1/2 galvanized pipe with 1/16th wall is like 4$ for a 2.5 ft length that's already threaded @ home depot.
Also I can 3D print a Kreg joint jig in about 2 hours. But this was cool too.
If I had all these tools I would build myself a spaceship !!! lol !!! Great work gongrats !!!
In my modest assessment, re-engineering is engineering. How can this be a bad thing? Seems like a learning experience to me. Honing skills, gaining knowledge, and learning.
Interesting that you had positive things to say about that Gorilla glue. I have found that one component comes out faster than the other so, for small jobs, it isn't easy to combine equal amounts of the two.
Never had any trouble mixing equal parts. Do you purge the air before dispensing?
I sometimes do sanding like you did here. Especially if I am sharpening a wood chisel. I will put my sandpaper on the table of my band saw. It takes a flat surface to make a flat surface.
You have a lot more control. Sometimes hand sanding makes way more sense
@@DIYMAN I refinish pianos and seldom do I use any electric sanders. In that field it is critical to go with the grain. But I use 8 inch hardwood sanding blocks because it takes a flat surface to make a flat surface.
All the best in your video and woodworking pursuits.
That’s super cool! Thank you!