Is Kill Team Gallowfall Broken?

[@denysopalenyk4775]

Sounds fun, actually. Can't wait to play Gall... Oh, right, the preorder was sold within a minute. Well, I'll guess I'll wait for Ashes of Fa... Oh, right, gone as well

[@deathdynasty1628]

Scalpers...

[@calebbarnhouse496]

​@@deathdynasty1628 scalpers are the people who enact what GW want

[@malakimphoros2164]

There is a possibility that someone at your LGS could print models and/or convertion bits if asked nicely.

[@RO-Explorers]

lol

[@elibarker201]

@@deathdynasty1628 its easy to blame scalpers but GW clearly need another factory to make more models. To me it seems like they’re not able to produce enough stuff to keep up with demand. Unless of course GW is content with their current FOMO business model lmao

[@ratz9387]

C'mon Jay, 4 inches is huge, more than enough

[@dekai7992]

It's all about the technique. 👍

[@bldos5362]

that's what she said!

[@deathdynasty1628]

If it's four inches I have the perfect way to measure it

[@ReganSpor]

Say what you like I think 6 inches is perfect. Any longer and it's too much. Any shorter and you'll be left wanting more.
But yeah if you're proficient, 4 inches shouldn't be too a great hindrance.

[@saiancantin7667]

They may have only 4 inches, but they sure have Girth

[@bramdelorijn8460]

Love your videos !! You always motivate me to paint and keep improving my painting, cheers from the Netherlands.

[@deathdynasty1628]

Jay, if they move four inches I can use my secret measuring device

[@owwwwcccchhhh]

Jay got me into the hobby. I’m addicted to buying every kill team box that releases now. Thanks man

[@dekai7992]

To be fair, it's also fun to combine all the terrain in all of them.

[@vermin9190]

I would recommend 3d printing too. Saves you a lot of money that way you can afford the newer boxes.
Iam currently printing some squats for kill team

[@tbarf]

Love listening to you on mondays, makes the commute go by faster!

[@Justin-be6be]

Played against the beastmen yesterday. They are definitely broken, at least in an indoor map like into the dark. They stay alive with the frenzy tokens which are just busted

[@DeBia.]

i played against my gf legionaries the other day and i can say they are not very good against units that can shoot you twice and/ore fight you twice. especially because some of the legionaries crits on 5+ and can re-roll grantig you atleast 1 crit that insta kills a frenzied beastmen. also the beastmen have shitty save, if you can kill one with a shot and be more than 4 circles away the beastmen cannot attempt a charge and just do nothig and die.

[@Justin-be6be]

@@DeBia. you’re talking about legionaries, like you said can fight twice and one of the best teams rn. I played against them with orks, a more balanced team and was into the dark map. Easy for them to charge in before you can get enough shots in. If you’re opponent is smart they activate the beastman that you just gave a frenzy token to immediately so you can’t kill it before it does it’s charge

[@DeBia.]

@@Justin-be6be it really depends on the team you are facing, yeah.

[@Rettungsdackel]

hi jay,
First of all, thank you very much for your videos.
I've been on chemotherapy for 1.5 years. at some point ohne oft your Videos appeared in my timeline. Since then I've been watching all your videos and started building and painting 4 weeks ago.
thanks for the distraction.

[@SynicalHypocrite]

Good luck with your recovery. And welcome to the hobby.

[@deathdynasty1628]

Get well soon
What army do you paint?

[@Rettungsdackel]

@@deathdynasty1628 thank you. i start with the standard Ultramarines, for learning etc. next ork, tyranids and maybe Chaos Space marines.

[@Rettungsdackel]

@@SynicalHypocrite thank you

[@tyranitorn8632]

lmao hope it goes wrong and it doesn’t work

[@DogmanDraws]

Hey Jay, this comment might get buried under the rubble, but I gotta say thank you so much for your fanboying of killteam.
I've only just taken the plunge to get back into warhammer 40k after not being a part of the hobby for close to 20 years, and I'm now prepping multiple killteams to play with my son (I need to indoctrinate him into the imperium somehow.)
Much love from New Zealand

[@vermin9190]

For The Imperium !!!! And the GOD EMPEROR!!!!

[@vermin9190]

Oh yeah and welcome on back.

[@wtfserpico]

I just played my first games of Kill Team with my son over the weekend. We both LOVED it. Now he's scheming how to get revenge with his Krieg vs my Novitiates.

[@LordUggeda]

Phobos has the „delay activation“-ability on their infiltrators. Thanks for the video! Best regards

[@DodgethisCZ]

*infiltrators but you are right. Phobos have this

[@Mr281560]

The ForgeWorld killteam had a similar tac op with their Sicarians Infiltrators

[@erdnaseum]

Blood for the Blood God, skulls for the Skull Throne, poop for the Poop Stone

[@johnmartin7705]

There are two uses for the Lugger on Gunners. 1) One of the Gunners is incapacitated and you want that weapon instead of another. 2) Mid game you want to have the 4th variant you didn’t start the game with.

[@MajorSvenGaming]

Beastmen in classic warhammer fantasy had 2 wounds when all the basic troops only had 1....a the higher wound count on beastmen makes sense for anyone who remembers those days.

[@KingKrebin]

would be cool if GW even let us buy boxes lmao

[@larrywagner1432]

Back in the early 90’s during Space Marie/Epic the IG used to be able to take a whole regiment of Beast Men. They were just another abhuman.

[@FunkBastid]

I kitbashed a kill team of vet guard beastmen with gors/catachan bits. I love the goatboys

[@larrywagner1432]

@James Williams awww, those were a heady time of utter madness! And it was glorious!

[@Vast3.14]

"while smearing their body on the poop rock" is such an amazing phrase

[@attemptedunkindness3632]

TFW a single Beastmen has fuller, longer, healthier beard than all the Squats combined.

[@neilybobber694]

I use the lugger with the gunners and when one gets taken off the board i can swap a warriors load out to that load out if needed.
IE: if my missle launcher guy gets wiped but i need him next turn i can swap my Gatlin-gun into a misssle launcher and he can do what i wanted him to do.

[@gerryjamesedwards1227]

The Beastmen should swap their frenzy ability, which does seem broken, for the ability to throw their poop around. It could have a rule where any operative that's hit by a chaos-turd can no longer be moved within 3" of any friendly dude.

[@ryane.3539]

Fulgrim had a self portrait made with poop and blood. I imagine the EC having little versions of that painting, also made with bodily fluids, hanging in their personal quarters.

[@ObsceneSuperMatt]

I'm thinking of building my Salvager Gunners without the plasma beamer and missle launcher, and using the Lugger (Lydia, "I'm sworn to carry your burdens") to get the launcher or beamer to where they can get max value. I think keep her between two of the gunners, try to opportunistically hop and swap.

[@tempusavatar]

Thanks for the video.
Re: lugger; when does the rules sequence actually check for roster legality? It might be possible to get multiple plasma gunners on the table depending when that check occurs.

[@amccombs42]

I love how early you post these. I always listen to these right after getting to work in the morning.

[@wooptydo6241]

Tzaangors are “technically” beast men

[@nulatlas2137]

Jay is the only pwrson who xould actually manage to teach me kill team, i habe the gamw, cant make heads or tails of it. Wqtched many videos on it and read thr rule books

[@ben.harnwell]

Keen to see you paint these up. I’ve got to finish my other squats then I’ll get in to the kill team

[@olivercomas1348]

heardstone= beastmen getting their shit together

[@ObsceneSuperMatt]

17:39 the Gellerpox Glitchlings literally throw diseased poop as their ranged attack.

[@billdefranza4927]

I think now I need some chaos undivided Marines who worship a Pooprock.

[@fvlsekvltrick6753]

The beast men got that art the clown energy, I’m with it

[@wikyWargaming]

Corn for the porcelain throne, poop for the poop god!!!

[@wulfen_minis]

Jay, could you make a video teaching how to play either horus heresy as i cant find anything that shows how

[@prettycringe8836]

ROCK AND STONE!!!!

[@dmereel]

I've done some great work with 4 inches.

[@thetraitorguardsmen.5321]

Beastmen are ship's crew among the black fleet. As well as among other fleets of chaos space marine chapters.

[@games-wz7sz]

Hey Jay, good video as always, I got one of these from a flgs and was waiting for your video on it lol

[@severintw]

Well played GW. You got me at “fecies”.

[@daili4917]

I think you're sleeping on the Gnarlscar Jay, dude is a goaty ninja. I know beastman shooting is nothing to worry about, but you can give him a krak grenade - so use ambush, flip him to engage, charge, use uncompromising attack and shove a krak grenade down the target's throat and then bionic fist to finish them off with a crit, then back into conceal.
Gotta give them a higher priority target than the Mauler after all! I look forward to hearing how you do with them.

[@bauguilhugo9037]

Every KT avaible this summer as said in the Roadmap if it can dry your tears

[@jamesmaas7244]

Great video
To bad you can't get this kill team box.

[@codan0colfon]

I wouldn't know. Was so short in production my preorder was cancelled.

[@rothelsan1176]

Maybe this weapon change can be used like, one od your gunes die and you can gwt his gun?

[@kenupton4084]

In the old world...
Orcs would eat the dead from the battlefield and then collectively crap in a big pile and then sculpt the dung into effigies of Gork and Mork.

[@AlbertoMartinez765]

A Box your Not excited for? meanwhile 1000's of us are Pissed we couldn't get one...CRIES....

[@claybass3631]

Its not the lenght of your Squats Move distance, ...its the girth of ya Hearthkin! ...that's what i tell myself, anyway.

[@oldschoolfrp2326]

The love song of J Alfred Pooprock

[@odharrison23]

See that there. The peanut is a dead give away! What you beastmen have been honoring is just a big ol hunk of space poopy. The Gores are how you beat Shawn. Thanks gents!! Fantastic as always!!!

[@johithestar414]

A kin....with a gutling gun....YES

[@originalarmedprophet7760]

Yeah, the way Jay held up that box... it was definitely empty. Like watching someone on TV "drink" from a blatantly empty cup!

[@BrontoDan]

Igf you doN't named you guy with the jumppack Lerrroooooooyyyy huummmmrrr Jennnnnnkinss, what are you even doing dude?

[@lukecocksey2314]

One 🥔 two 🥔 three 🥔 four boosting the algorithm just a little more

[@CaptinCrofty]

Now I’m feeling a bit suspicious of the seagulls and there pop rocks

[@rm2005nz]

I’d really like to get a starter set to try the game I can’t find any

[@TheEnd]

Sad my box is on delayed shipment

[@flag5enemyinsight397]

I wouldnt know if the game is broken or not, there was no way I was ever going to obtain a set with GWs level of distribution at the moment.

[@gregoryhall4062]

Making work bearable!

[@Accidentalcrofter84]

Is Kill team expensive to keep up with? There seems to be large box sets out quite regularly, what was the time between gallowfall and ashes of faith? (newbee here only done some painting so far)

[@battaylor3]

Edit: you can also get the starter set for ruffly $100 and it comes with 2 teams terrain a core rule book dice the whole 9 yards it’s how I started the game and the vet guard are still pretty good.

[@malakimphoros2164]

You could convert normal miniatures into KT miniatures by the power of CUSTOMS

[@ObsceneSuperMatt]

You don't need more teams; teams are, we found, difficult to pick up and get good / fast with. occasionally getting more terrain can be nice, with more Shadow Ops (story rather than competitive) missions.
Ashes of Faith is a different sort of release. The normal big boxes are once every three months. Again, you don't need them; if you have a group, you can alternate who is buying each season, or something.

[@thejomah]

I noticed a few things you mentioned in the salvagers portion of your video were not correct.
Settle grudges works differently than that and it actually isn't too great. You get a tally for the first (and only the first) time you kill someone who has a grudge token each turning point. One you get 2 tallys you get a Vp when you get a third tally you get another vp. Which means you have to kill someone with a grudge token on 3 seperate turning points in order to max this out.
Also wrought defense isn't too good either. Rather than treat one of your normal saves as a crit save you get to retain one of your missed saves as a successful one IF you retain a crit save. That makes its usefulness a lot more limited, it would only work if you roll a crit save and a 1 or a 2 on a defense roll, which isn't insanely likely.
Also, notably, the leader is actually allowed to take a full-length gun and a power axe.
The team is also not necessarily good at shooting as the only re-rolls they get are from ceaseless bolters and the attack oder. That being said the damage the gunners can put out is insane, especially with the beamer.

[@sniperlemming]

Hey Jay, do you know any way i could get my hands on an Arks of Omen Abaddon book? It's my birthday in a week, and i managed to get the other 4 books in the Arks of Omen set, but my LGS dropped the ball on pre-ordering my first book, and now i can't find it. 😞If anyone sees this message and knows a way that a Canadian can find that books without paying double or more, can you let me know? Please and Thank you.

[@narfbite5239]

Does the judgement token system outlined in the rule book reflect 10th edition changes to the system? Not trying to cry about it, just curious if the book is already out of date.

[@rileyiwanciwski4905]

Kill team runs on mostly different rules so it is only kinda similar to the 9th ed and 10th ed judgement tokens. I would say that it is more similar to 9th ed tokens but the systems are so different that its difficult to say

[@malakimphoros2164]

No, it does not.

[@ViperSpectre]

Would the lugger be able to give a plasma gun to another one of your shooters if your original plasma gunner has been killed already?

[@minigamerjeonsofbattle9376]

I don’t think so because it must switch to a legal load out and each heavy gunner is max 1 per kill team. I would think even a incapacitated operative still counts towards this limit

[@dangerfieldsosa3285]

I'll let you know in 3 years when I finally get one.

[@aris3481]

Für den Algorithmus

[@Rettungsdackel]

Nicht für den Imperator?

[@moldiworp9143]

Ok, the squats are perfect then?

[@aarotron2189]

Man i wanted that box so i could have shared votann to my friend.

[@jamesablitt6740]

love the vids bro, keep up the fight

[@Ralndrath]

The ability to make one of your units go last is a huge advantage for the space dwarves. Think of this I'm playing my Corsairs and I've carefully maneuvered my Felarch to charge a Space Dwarf on an objective that'll win me the matcj, but you get first turn, move your comms man to to see my Felarch and makes him go last. So I have to choose othet Corsair unit who's at the back on an objective who cant do much, so another Space Dwarf manages to flank my Felarch and take him out with a point-blank deluge and you win the game. It's likely a winner and an annoying one at that.

[@yuttorres2896]

What happened to Ashes of faith is there a reason I can’t buy it ?

[@sonicwingnut]

Can't be broken if you can't actually get it anywhere.

[@bauguilhugo9037]

Maybe the lugger is helpfull in narrative because you won't have all the Guns in your roaster😊

[@tonydiazist]

It's been 2 years since Jay's mo models mo problems video.... Has he made a dent into his pile of shame or has he given up the task for more exciting models/projects?😅 😅😅

[@deathdynasty1628]

Knowing Jay he probably doubled the pile of shame by this point

[@craigarkle1077]

Chaos factions Cosplay as their favourite colour😂

[@r1ptidee]

Day 25 of asking for a Centurion Squad magnetization and green stuff conversion video.
Once the video is made, I’ll become a top tier Patreon to get my name on the sergeant of the squad.

[@donutbarbell]

Do grudge tokens stack? Ie. 3 grudge tokens can retain 3 normal hits to 3 crits?

[@thejomah]

Yup! It's nice into elite teams, allows you to put out a lot of damage. Only issue is if a single unit got 3 grudge tokens (or even 2 honestly) from you dying there is a good chance you already lost.

[@aerouge4492]

Too bad the boxes sold out worldwide within Econds after release ... *shrugs*

[@aeon90q1]

whats this? orange squats? sooo if you had waited a bit with your plan to sell your custom painted squats for like a year....

[@malakimphoros2164]

You can paint your models however you want

[@ObsceneSuperMatt]

There are at least 5 different ... leagues? to choose from, with different color schemes. You get the transfers for 4 or 5 of them in the box.

[@TeensierPython]

All GW is too expensive. It’s insane how high the prices have gotten.
I played back in the late 90s. It was expensive then and the rules kept changing and nobody wanted to play the old rules so I had to quit playing instead of buying new models.

[@chrisjulien7698]

Christ bless you, votan are so cool

[@Will-zc8cq]

Played beastmen, they are super overpowered, squats are a bust, check out Austin powers40k you’ll see

[@zeke3327]

Gallowfall has one major flaw....
Its not avaliable..

[@kenupton4084]

I feel like I just sat through a long presentation only to realize I have been in the wrong classroom the entire time.
That was a whole bunch of Killteam talk. I didn't understand about 90% of what was said. I just grab the models out of the boxes and the rest goes in the garbage.
Nethermaze?! No, part of my new Skaven warband with a few elf things I'll never touch again.
Ashwastes?! No, terrain set with too much paper and cardboard in the box.

[@JamesTillmanjimthegray]

as i understand it it bypasses the legal load out rule so yes you could be rocking ore then one say mini gun

[@rhaeja1768]

I mean 4 inches seems pretty average to me...

[@BB-pn2qv]

Beasts are definitely broken it seems…

[@Dorsidwarf]

its ok, nobody has the damn box anyway

[@hephesto555666]

Jeez, GW producing broken stuff you can barely buy unless you have the inside connections or bow down to the scalpers...........why are people even surprised anymore? Heck, the follow-up box had the exact same order problem, the entire preorder thing is a literal scam.

[@eduardop727]

Small critique, I've been loving your videos but you use the word "really" to the point it becomes a distraction. You should try mixing up adjectives 😊

[@stewartlyons4501]

space monkeys! 😂

[@twitch_embers4847]

Bruh am I first!!

[@commandercody8085]

nah

[@twitch_embers4847]

@@commandercody8085 I think I was tbh

[@SakuraCSL]

Its so broken that no one can buy it

[@karlff7]

Pointless video, all products unavailable to us hobbyists now.

[@Haroith]

GW, make Deep Rock! Make dwarfs vs bugs in caves. 'No, we shall make goat-men that no one wants to play'.

[@malakimphoros2164]

cringe

[@ObsceneSuperMatt]

Unless you make the goat men really powerful on launch!

[@gregsmw]

i really dislike the beastmen
they (and the stuff for the herdstones) are just ripped straight from fantasy, with literally NOTHING to make them fit in 40k
take the guns off the models, and they are AoS models (they even have the drummer guy which every AoS unit has), theres nothing there to say they are 40k about them
i am 100% certain that the unit was going to be an updated bestigore unit for AoS, but then GW realised they didnt have anything else for the beastmen so didnt want to ship just a single updated unit, and needed an extra unit for kill team and didnt have anything ready, so they just slapped some guns on them and went "look guys 40k beastmen"
the beastmen from blackstone fortress were WAY better fit for 40k then these ones, i really REALLY dislike them

[@malakimphoros2164]

Eldar, orks and Wardcrons are ripped straight from Fantasy too

[@skippen]

The click-bait titles are tiresome I must say.

[@jasperisdumb4891]

firstt

[@magunra3k]

Kinda irrelevant at this point