@@aubhreypender3091with SGA and Luka at the 1-2? And a frontline of Giannis/Jokic/Embiid and Wemby as the 6th man??? The USA would have an edge in front court shooting….but they’re getting WORKED inside…
@@Toothless49 all of the bigs are mobile nowadays. But you can’t play them together. Giannis is not a three. He can’t shoot the ball and his handle is average at best. Also, although he’s not bad, guarding the perimeter is not his strong suit. He’s more of a help defender. I don’t think that would work man.
@@twilitezn the US would bring bam adebayo and AD. That’s all they need. You’re not gonna stop those bigs but they can guard them well and force them to play on the other end.
That’s cuz there’s no world u17 team. Your statement has nothing to do with what they are talking about. Like 0. They are talking USA vs the Worlds talent, not USA vs Serbia or USA vs Greece.
@@iamdebaby8152 kobe was born in philly so he's american. kyrie would be australian. its not that hard to understand. whatever country you are born in determines your nationality.
listen to ur list man Luka (PG) Shai (PG) jokic (Center) wemby (Center) Embiid (Center) Giannis (PF) so 3 centers now name ur (starting SG and back up SG) name ur (SF and Backup SF) not who u can put there, actually position! international players dont have those positions! 24 allstars last year and the same 5 make it every year. The international players that are taken over are (PF-C)
The game is largely positioned less now. Luka and SGA are combo guards that can play either position, Giannis can play the 3 or 4, Wemby is really a 4 or 5. Luka (PG) SGA (SG) Giannis (SF) Wemby (PF) Jokic (C) Embiid (6th man)
This is exactly what I was thinking, we’re really gonna have Giannis at the three with 2 bigs who are dominant in the short mid range and long mid range, an isolation guard in SGA who operates in the mid range, and a player like Luka who often times refuses to shoot off the catch? Or are we gonna turn Giannis into Aaron Gordon? Might sound like a lot of talent on paper but the game doesn’t work like that.
Embiid plays for US. Center: Embiid Power Forward: AD Point Forward: LeBron Wing: Ant Off-ball PG: Curry The American team is giving the world tough competition. Wemby is a game changer for the international team, but still, it isn't an easy win for the ENTIRE WORLD against USA.
World bench is still nuts, Lauri, Siakam, Kristaps, OG, KAT, Murray, Rudy, Franz.. the bench for the USA would still be better but idk how much better tbh
@@8Juice yet has always played as a international player, idk if you know how sports citizenship works but if you have citizenship in a country you can play for said country. Same reason why Embiid is playing with USA
@jetsettech8804 facts YES he's USA I'm sick if the European player being better than The American player because America is the best country in the world by a country mile giannis and jokic are one hit wonders .and Marz doesn't know basketball
All they got on us is size we still most likely win we 15 deep Steph, kawhi , Kd, bron , Ad, Bronson , ant , pg , Tatum , bam , Butler, Zion , Kat , booker , Tyrese
Luka - Shai - Giannis - Embiid - Jokic Murray, Markkanen, Wemby, Sabonis, Siakim, Porzingis, Gobert, Wagner, Sengun, Anunoby. Only problem the rest of the world has is a lack of guards, but you could even bring in bogdanovic, simmons, (kyrie if that counts) or swap some of the better shooters to guard roles, jokic could run the point etc
But even if you go back to 2015 they're going against prime lebron, prime KD, prime steph, prime kawhi, prime AD etc. I'm taking team USA at that time. I would think maybe around 2020 is when it started to transition.
The World squad just doesn’t have the right balance of players no spot up shooting 4 bigs none of them have elite shooting they would get killed all the U.S would have to do is make it a fast paced game Luka can’t defend Jokic can’t defend only Giannis would be able to run the floor consistently minimal guards
Team USA would have crazy depth comparatively but ppl are underestimating the intl depth. theyve got gobert siakam and lauri coming off the bench and shit.
You don’t need to be 15 deep lmao. World definitely can go about 10 deep with some DUDES. And they all know the FIBA extremely well. That’s the difference imo
like Shai, Luka, Giannis, Embiid, Jokic, Wemby, Rudy Gobert, Al Horford, Kyrie, Lauri, Porzingis, Sabonis, Siakam, Vucevic, Jamal Murray, and Andrew Wiggins? like those nobodies?
Somebody needs to tell them that it's more countries in America than just the Usa. Shai is just as American as lebron. Just as Vick and Giannis are European.
@iamdebaby8152 its one country vs the rest of the world brother not just one continent... Its fair because the US is the only country that has a basketball scene that large and naturally produces more players and draws in more attention
@@iamdebaby8152umm bc this one country invented the sport and has a monopoly on talent for decades. The world is literally just catching up. Stop looking at it as 1 country vs many look at it as the birth place of the sport where historically like 90% of the talent came from vs now the collective rest of the world just catching up.
1. How was Yugoslavia beating anyone in the 2000s when their country broke out in war and split in 92? 2. Everyone was a bit fortunate in 04 and america followed that up by trouncing everyone up until recently
The US is WAY deeper
But the best 5 vs World best 5 its no competition
USA would still tear the ass up lmaoo. World top players are mostly big men
@@aubhreypender3091with SGA and Luka at the 1-2? And a frontline of Giannis/Jokic/Embiid and Wemby as the 6th man???
The USA would have an edge in front court shooting….but they’re getting WORKED inside…
@@aubhreypender3091 But 2/3 of the bigs are highly moble
World in 6
@@Toothless49 all of the bigs are mobile nowadays. But you can’t play them together. Giannis is not a three. He can’t shoot the ball and his handle is average at best. Also, although he’s not bad, guarding the perimeter is not his strong suit. He’s more of a help defender. I don’t think that would work man.
@@twilitezn the US would bring bam adebayo and AD. That’s all they need. You’re not gonna stop those bigs but they can guard them well and force them to play on the other end.
FIBA U17 USA squad is 61-0.
That’s cuz there’s no world u17 team. Your statement has nothing to do with what they are talking about. Like 0. They are talking USA vs the Worlds talent, not USA vs Serbia or USA vs Greece.
Embid literally went to the same highschool as Dlo and Ben Simmons. And went to college at Kansas. And he is playing for team USA.
He played for Kansas!
@@courtneystanley214 yea I knew it was one of those.
And he was born in Cameroon and lived there for most of his childhood
@@vedanthbalaji and kyrie was born in Australia. And Kobe grew up in Italy were his dad play basketball. So what's your point?
@@iamdebaby8152 kobe was born in philly so he's american. kyrie would be australian. its not that hard to understand. whatever country you are born in determines your nationality.
listen to ur list man
Luka (PG)
Shai (PG)
jokic (Center)
wemby (Center)
Embiid (Center)
Giannis (PF)
so 3 centers now name ur (starting SG and back up SG) name ur (SF and Backup SF) not who u can put there, actually position! international players dont have those positions! 24 allstars last year and the same 5 make it every year. The international players that are taken over are (PF-C)
The game is largely positioned less now. Luka and SGA are combo guards that can play either position, Giannis can play the 3 or 4, Wemby is really a 4 or 5.
Luka (PG)
SGA (SG)
Giannis (SF)
Wemby (PF)
Jokic (C)
Embiid (6th man)
Positions dont matter like that anymore, all that matters is frontcourt vs backcourt
This is exactly what I was thinking, we’re really gonna have Giannis at the three with 2 bigs who are dominant in the short mid range and long mid range, an isolation guard in SGA who operates in the mid range, and a player like Luka who often times refuses to shoot off the catch? Or are we gonna turn Giannis into Aaron Gordon? Might sound like a lot of talent on paper but the game doesn’t work like that.
Embiid plays for US.
Center: Embiid
Power Forward: AD
Point Forward: LeBron
Wing: Ant
Off-ball PG: Curry
The American team is giving the world tough competition. Wemby is a game changer for the international team, but still, it isn't an easy win for the ENTIRE WORLD against USA.
No shooters
PG: Steph, Dame
SG: ANT, Book
SF: Tatum, Kawhi
PF: Bron, KD
C: AD, Bam
11-15: PG, Spida, Ja or kyrie, Jaylen & JJJ
Team USA still wins.
no
Naming all those US players but not mention Steph as one of the first ones what a joke
Team USA bench would be the difference.
World bench is still nuts, Lauri, Siakam, Kristaps, OG, KAT, Murray, Rudy, Franz.. the bench for the USA would still be better but idk how much better tbh
@@talaf6616Kat was born and raised in the US
@@8Juice yet has always played as a international player, idk if you know how sports citizenship works but if you have citizenship in a country you can play for said country. Same reason why Embiid is playing with USA
People are sleeping on SGA too. He's Canadian
Tripping world bench would still be cold just not better than us
We'll get it back again will always have the best players the World is top heavy though right now.
Embiid is American now. He’s with us. World doesn’t have a 15 man roster to compete with America.
But isnt embiid playing for usa? So wouldnt we include him in america?
@jetsettech8804 facts YES he's USA I'm sick if the European player being better than The American player because America is the best country in the world by a country mile giannis and jokic are one hit wonders .and Marz doesn't know basketball
@@malikwilson7387 calm down, I didn't say all of that.
@@malikwilson7387One hit wonders? You smoking? Giannis and Jokic have been in the top5-10 for years now
@@malikwilson7387yapaholics. real. yap. shit.
@@malikwilson7387you give us Americans a bad name
We need USA vs World at the all star game this year.
I know EXACTLY when things started to change....
Swipa was up there loud for no reason
That’s how wars work 🤷🏻♂️
Nah i need them to go back to USA v World at all star
Embiid is an american citizen and playing for team USA
Hey Guys Canada is in America. So SGA would be on Americas team
no
@@satsuma1754 yeah you just bold and wrong
@@winfordjohnson9037 I have long haïr actually dummy
This is not how it works
if you have to put the us team against every other countries stars combined just to make it fair that should show how stacked the us is
Embiid is playing for team USA
Let's just do Continent VS Continent
All they got on us is size we still most likely win we 15 deep
Steph, kawhi , Kd, bron , Ad,
Bronson , ant , pg , Tatum , bam ,
Butler, Zion , Kat , booker , Tyrese
Luka - Shai - Giannis - Embiid - Jokic
Murray, Markkanen, Wemby, Sabonis, Siakim, Porzingis, Gobert, Wagner, Sengun, Anunoby.
Only problem the rest of the world has is a lack of guards, but you could even bring in bogdanovic, simmons, (kyrie if that counts) or swap some of the better shooters to guard roles, jokic could run the point etc
That first 5 is getting smoked in an actual game
Us team to deep chill just didn’t know how to argue it plus the world team most of there best players don’t play defense
Embiid not playing with the World team
These dudes said sga is the world and jamall murray
Embiid a clown for playing with the US instead of Siakam.
But even if you go back to 2015 they're going against prime lebron, prime KD, prime steph, prime kawhi, prime AD etc. I'm taking team USA at that time. I would think maybe around 2020 is when it started to transition.
Mid late 2000s world had Dirk, Yao, Pau, Steve Nash, Ginobili, Parker, peja, ak47, luol deng. Heck Ginobili and Scola took down team usa.
US still had the better players though
Steph
Team USA would win easily if Lebron plays Team ball like he did in 08 and 12.
So the world vs ONE country…ok
yeah it’s a hypothetical scenario. doesn’t really have to make sense
And USA still wins 😂
@@HM2FLYonly because Embiid is now team USA
@@jayden.6 yeah I get it. Just something to get the people talking.
Because USA isn’t just one country, it’s many states. So if Europe came together as one I think Europe wins
Hell no! All of y'all are wrong. It was 2004 when the USA won a bronze medal. And LeBron James was on that team as well.
US still had the more talented players though, y’all are misunderstanding the question.
Peep how bro had to say and whoever else, the world has like 3 of the top 5 players but USA is still way deeper
Well Embiid played for USA now so 🤷🏽♂️
😂😂 yall wild.
Embiid is team USA guys
😂😂 y'all buggin
Giannis. Jokic. Embiid. Luka and SGA Would get beat down by the Dream Team, Dream Team II and the Redeem Team.
Yknow there’s more then just those 5
It happen when bron becmse 39 and curry 36
The World squad just doesn’t have the right balance of players no spot up shooting 4 bigs none of them have elite shooting they would get killed all the U.S would have to do is make it a fast paced game Luka can’t defend Jokic can’t defend only Giannis would be able to run the floor consistently minimal guards
Canada is in North America so they with us lol
Brother u forgot steph
USA in 4
First time I seen marz get no likes L supporters
@@thankyouseann im motionless
Shit happened over the pandemic
Isn’t Embiid playing for team USA? He already chose a side stop trying to put him with them.
...stop saying Kawhi 😒😮💨
The top usa stars are older than the world players. And usa would still win
Team USA would have crazy depth comparatively but ppl are underestimating the intl depth. theyve got gobert siakam and lauri coming off the bench and shit.
Kristaps, Rudy, franz, og
USA wins! Steph, Ant Man, Tatum, LeBron, AD, Kawhi, KD, Brunson, Fox, J Brown, Ja, J Jackson, Booker, Towns, Kyrie.....
Nah bruh team USA would still win, world does not have 15 deep like US they have like 7 guys the rest drop off crazy
You don’t need to be 15 deep lmao. World definitely can go about 10 deep with some DUDES. And they all know the FIBA extremely well. That’s the difference imo
like Shai, Luka, Giannis, Embiid, Jokic, Wemby, Rudy Gobert, Al Horford, Kyrie, Lauri, Porzingis, Sabonis, Siakam, Vucevic, Jamal Murray, and Andrew Wiggins? like those nobodies?
Problem is USA wouldn’t have the front court to compete with jokic wemby embid and wemby. They’d get dominated in the paint.
@@evansimmons2423 basketball is basketball, jus think about bron and Steph on the same team then you add embiid Tatum ad
@@jayden.6 embiid and kyrie will play for USA
just europe not the world
But the US is still just one country😅
?? Steph bron kd kawahi ad book kyrie tatum bam that lineup dragging the world
Embid identifies as American so.
Spurs Manu
Team USA will stilll win 😂😂
Wemby is the besy player. Stop. 🛑
Somebody needs to tell them that it's more countries in America than just the Usa. Shai is just as American as lebron. Just as Vick and Giannis are European.
Don’t be obtuse, they’re obviously talking about the US, not North America.
@@mazzb305 why tf is it one county vs a whole continent how is that fair?
@iamdebaby8152 its one country vs the rest of the world brother not just one continent...
Its fair because the US is the only country that has a basketball scene that large and naturally produces more players and draws in more attention
@@iamdebaby8152umm bc this one country invented the sport and has a monopoly on talent for decades.
The world is literally just catching up. Stop looking at it as 1 country vs many look at it as the birth place of the sport where historically like 90% of the talent came from vs now the collective rest of the world just catching up.
@@joshuad24 it was created by Canadian!!!
I got US
And y’all live in the USA lol
when dirk came to the league
I think 2000s was the Year International Players got Better.....Yugoslavia beating USA
1. How was Yugoslavia beating anyone in the 2000s when their country broke out in war and split in 92?
2. Everyone was a bit fortunate in 04 and america followed that up by trouncing everyone up until recently
Naw once Jokic became MVP and Luka became an All Star which was a few years ago.
Huh?!?!